Margaret Is Hesitant to Sign the Statement | The Crown (Olivia Colman, Gillian Anderson)

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@StudioPartnerBranding
@StudioPartnerBranding 6 ай бұрын
Paperwork has never been so dramatic
@samvit91
@samvit91 21 күн бұрын
Never since Death Note
@sapphire2797
@sapphire2797 6 ай бұрын
imagine rewriting the whole page just to change one word
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 6 ай бұрын
NO COMPUTERS BACK THEN! I remember it well --Carbon paper, multiple duplicates, the ability to be a very accurate typist as well as being speedy -- 60 words per minute (with no errors) was considered the best. Then there was the "Shorthand" writing/alphabet language!
@MightyJosh1985
@MightyJosh1985 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@here_we_go_again2571there very much was computers in the 80s. Especially in high level government organisations. But yes this would have had to been re typed each time.
@teddykgb3865
@teddykgb3865 6 ай бұрын
Someone did imagine it. Her name was Bette Nesmith Graham. She invented Liquid Paper and it made her a multimillionaire.
@mnfrench7603
@mnfrench7603 6 ай бұрын
@@teddykgb3865her son. A member of the Monkees
@jena.alexia
@jena.alexia 6 ай бұрын
That's how it was back then. We survived. People could touch type lighting fast in those days too.
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 5 ай бұрын
All drama and jokes aside, this is a brilliant insight into how politicians think and react. The words you use matter SO MUCH in conveying ideas to others and giving them the right 'feeling', making them think "yeah this might possibly work".
@Studentofgosset
@Studentofgosset 3 ай бұрын
Law, rights, freedoms, etc. all come down to the definitions.
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 3 ай бұрын
@@Studentofgosset No, they don't. There are objectively good, universal rights out there that all human beings deserve. The definitions don't change. Thatcher was objectively in the wrong here and had no good justification for her pro-Apartheid stance. She was forced to back down in the face of overwhelming opposition.
@Studentofgosset
@Studentofgosset 3 ай бұрын
@@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty You don't understand what I wrote.
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 3 ай бұрын
@@Studentofgosset Yes, I do. Everything I said was entirely correct.
@Studentofgosset
@Studentofgosset 3 ай бұрын
@@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty I can explain why the sky is blue but if it doesn’t relate to the point being made then maybe the fault lies in my understanding of the point, not my understanding of why the sky is blue.
@Ro87808
@Ro87808 6 ай бұрын
My supervisor reviewing my thesis
@animaanimus8011
@animaanimus8011 Ай бұрын
I remember those days…don’t give up.
@DragonHeir92
@DragonHeir92 Ай бұрын
You’re actually lucky, mine was very loose about some concepts. She wouldn’t allow me to grammatically correct a sentence.
@Ro87808
@Ro87808 28 күн бұрын
​@@DragonHeir92 She was decontructing even the language? Nothing wrong with decontruction terms and concepts, but everything has its limits...Even sentences... Sure you had a hard time... Hope you are well after this!
@NoNo-or2wj
@NoNo-or2wj 6 ай бұрын
a whole scene about how nobody thought to grab a damn thesaurus
@edwardcatt2399
@edwardcatt2399 6 ай бұрын
They probably did, but they could only draft / send one document each time.
@raphaelledesma9393
@raphaelledesma9393 6 ай бұрын
Strictly speaking, you probably won't get signal as a synonym for proposal because it isn't. Although it finally got Thatcher to sign the document, it also unfortunately allowed her to not push through with these policies because they were just "signals" rather than things she had to do.
@eddingtonmcclane6963
@eddingtonmcclane6963 6 ай бұрын
‘Not quite that easy. I assure you.
@jamoyjr
@jamoyjr 6 ай бұрын
That’s what makes it fun!!
@brian177
@brian177 6 ай бұрын
The man who saved the day here is none other than William Barmeetrius Thesauruson - the man credited with inventing what we now know as a "thesaurus." Come on, buddy. Broaden your mind... Pick up a book once in a while.
@cee_ves
@cee_ves 3 ай бұрын
“the iron lady melted” yeah with that much paper you could probably get a hot enough fire to melt iron
@nhoelle79
@nhoelle79 2 ай бұрын
She didn't melt, she stood her ground.
@MomMom4Cubs
@MomMom4Cubs 11 күн бұрын
​@@nhoelle79Yes, by agreeing to several of the items previously rejected (in the world of the show).
@ThomasHall1000
@ThomasHall1000 6 ай бұрын
Being a civil servant is doing this day after day thousands of times xD
@carlosmelara8435
@carlosmelara8435 6 ай бұрын
Tell me more 👀
@jackdoyle7453
@jackdoyle7453 6 ай бұрын
Only if you are bad at it
@ThomasHall1000
@ThomasHall1000 6 ай бұрын
@@jackdoyle7453 … or if you have a difficult to please boss/minister ;)
@ruthgar9753
@ruthgar9753 5 ай бұрын
Not so much thousands of times a day, sometimes it's just a few dozen. A lot of times it's making sure the people who are writing things up/filing out the forms are plugging in the right information in the other boxes (they might have the one or two bits of information that are important to them 100% correct, we're just making sure all their supporting info is also correct).
@toryquinton2677
@toryquinton2677 3 ай бұрын
Civil servants are the backbone of national infrastructure. Unfortunately they are also the scoliosis.
@taymur0804
@taymur0804 6 ай бұрын
Her face expressions while reading at the beginning looks hilarious😂
@CosmicTeapot
@CosmicTeapot 6 ай бұрын
It's mildly entertaining, but Anderson's geriatric and anal-retentive interpretation of Thatcher has no bearing on reality. I really don't get why she went with such a raspy voice, constipated facial expressions, and even moved like her joints needed a good spray of WD-40. I disagree with lots of Thatcher's politics, but this is just a grotesque self-indulgent caricature of the woman.
@ScottyShaw
@ScottyShaw 5 ай бұрын
I hope she had lots of fun filming all of these scenes saying just one word over and over and over 🥳
@2legit64
@2legit64 6 ай бұрын
OMG! That signature was on point. Amazing.
@ScottyShaw
@ScottyShaw 5 ай бұрын
Not just hers. Other signatures matched up well too!
@BRod1994
@BRod1994 5 ай бұрын
When put in the ring with her Queen, the Iron Lady melted....love that.
@Billsbob
@Billsbob 4 ай бұрын
Did she?
@BRod1994
@BRod1994 4 ай бұрын
@@Billsbob HM got what she wanted, the Queen was right, thatcher was wrong and she knew it which is why she "melted". All thatcher was worried about was language, which in itself was appalling compared to what was going on.
@toryquinton2677
@toryquinton2677 3 ай бұрын
​@@BRod1994Actually , when dealing with legal documents , language matters much more than people realize. The slightest miscast word can lead to grave consequences. Consider the phrase well regulated in our own US Constitution. The founders very clearly meant something by it and yet how that word has evolved is causing tremendous political problems today.
@nhoelle79
@nhoelle79 2 ай бұрын
​@Billsbob no she didn't, she stood her ground
@gayan2517
@gayan2517 6 ай бұрын
This is the statement against apartheid in South Africa?
@chanaberlove8720
@chanaberlove8720 6 ай бұрын
Yes
@Bajirkus
@Bajirkus 6 ай бұрын
Well, it's really more of a signal of displeasure with the overall system of apartheid, rather than a statement against apartheid.
@mayaflici374
@mayaflici374 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, and Thatcher's son was a business man... In south Africa. During apartheid.
@htimsid
@htimsid 6 ай бұрын
@@Bajirkus What?
@ReaverLordTonus
@ReaverLordTonus 6 ай бұрын
It was one of the reasons why Thatcher is both Revered and Reviled. In some cases, she stood firm on principle and for what was right, and in other cases, she was stubborn and would not act on things that anyone with common sense could see needed action. She revitalized the British economy but gutted social services for those struggling to find a place in it. She stood up to dictators but wouldn't challenge racists. She also took the nation to war over something legitimate but also incredibly trivial.
@diannedaniel4071
@diannedaniel4071 6 ай бұрын
Gillian did a fabulous Job in the crown!!!
@judyfowler2023
@judyfowler2023 3 ай бұрын
Cleverly done. Simply changing the words, makes Michael a genius !
@filberttapaha2520
@filberttapaha2520 6 ай бұрын
I always thought this as she wouldn't make a finale decision until she found out about her lost son, so she wouldn't be accused of making decisions under duress?
@jasonkoch3182
@jasonkoch3182 6 ай бұрын
Her son went missing, and then was found, in 1982. This happened in 1986.
@АлександрКостин-ф1в
@АлександрКостин-ф1в 6 ай бұрын
Poor typewriters...
@bcbock
@bcbock 5 ай бұрын
At that point word processors did exist.
@darylivanhisola2867
@darylivanhisola2867 5 ай бұрын
if only they have Google Docs
@marvinschneider7981
@marvinschneider7981 5 ай бұрын
Oh, the poor "protocols" nearly did it! But were struck down by the almighty red marker.
@cardwitch91
@cardwitch91 5 ай бұрын
A literal war of words
@SKa-tt9nm
@SKa-tt9nm 4 ай бұрын
And neither is armed with a thesaurus.
@hutch1197
@hutch1197 5 ай бұрын
I'll never understand why world leaders can't just pick up a phone and hash things out in a conversation. Everything has to be so formalized and scheduled with multiple staff members unnecessarily involved, dragging what could have taken half an hour into days or even weeks.
@akmaakma3513
@akmaakma3513 5 ай бұрын
Legal protection in the event if things mess up and ended up in court of law. When everything is duly recorded properly, it easier to defend your case
@EbonFang_92
@EbonFang_92 5 ай бұрын
A number of times, it's diplomatic protocol
@fredrickcampbell8198
@fredrickcampbell8198 5 ай бұрын
I think it is a matter of not doing things differently. There were no telephones for quite a few centuries. By now, though, I think one of the only reasons is to make it more difficult to eavesdrop on communications. For communications that are more phatic (congratulations and condolences) or less diplomatically important or impossible to be kept hidden (free travel agreements and lifting of trade tariffs), they do use their phones now.
@leightonolsson4846
@leightonolsson4846 5 ай бұрын
It's important that politicians and their actions & discourse are recorded accurately for history and the public's protection. We all saw what happened with the Tories trying to delete WhatsApp messages over COVID. As for Thatcher... Power went to her head by the end, she thought she could dictate to and dominate the EEC and it caused her downfall.
@Bigmojojo
@Bigmojojo 4 ай бұрын
Because world leaders aren't policy managers. Most only know the details about 1 or 2 issues. Their staff are the ones with knowledge on the subjects. Even experts on subjects disagree on how to solve things. Leaders are decision makers. They are given a list of options and must decide which one is the best to take.
@RajVerma-h5i1w
@RajVerma-h5i1w 5 ай бұрын
Being a content writer, this scene is special to me.
@onecloudism
@onecloudism 6 ай бұрын
One of my favorite scenes of the season!
@AllMamu
@AllMamu 3 ай бұрын
This is actually what I go through every month at work when writing board papers… there’s always some not good news but it has to appear as good news. Given the oxymoron of that we end up with this:
@farishafiy1650
@farishafiy1650 Ай бұрын
3:26 I see my country's former Prime Minister's signature and it's accurate! Bravo to the producer
@jefflokanata
@jefflokanata 6 ай бұрын
That marker sound ! Tingling my spine
@shehryar_
@shehryar_ 6 ай бұрын
Search ASMR marker sounds on KZbin. You might enjoy it
@vodkagal28
@vodkagal28 6 ай бұрын
I would've been like,"Just sign the damn thing!"
@CzechMirco
@CzechMirco 4 ай бұрын
Yea, because you are nobody who knows nothng about anything. Thats your whole qualificaiton
@kraken125
@kraken125 4 ай бұрын
😂😂​@@CzechMirco
@think-and-check
@think-and-check 2 ай бұрын
​@@CzechMirco the "gal" knows about vodka
@BigwavePhotocards
@BigwavePhotocards 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@CzechMircojust like how u can’t spell the word nothing . 😂
@BigwavePhotocards
@BigwavePhotocards 2 ай бұрын
@@CzechMircospell Nothing correctly .
@mrbear1302
@mrbear1302 5 ай бұрын
And back then they had to retype the whole thing each time!
@stuartwiner7920
@stuartwiner7920 6 ай бұрын
Agent Scully has transformed.
@Gerry76alpha
@Gerry76alpha 5 ай бұрын
I know can you believe that was 30 years ago?
@rosariodirosa2060
@rosariodirosa2060 6 ай бұрын
Gillian I love you.
@socratesporter
@socratesporter 5 ай бұрын
Oh the red check mark pen
@yvonneplant9434
@yvonneplant9434 4 ай бұрын
Thatcher's hair!!! 😂
@Dawningx
@Dawningx Күн бұрын
Diplomacy in the making. Brilliant scene and powerplay in the making. Anderson and Cole at their very best. Really entertaining
@amsyarfaidhchannel2
@amsyarfaidhchannel2 5 ай бұрын
Margaret Is Just Like A Teacher Grades Math School Works!
@Iblameyouu
@Iblameyouu 5 ай бұрын
I have a legitimate question, although England is and was under a constitutional monarchy doesn’t the Queen have the power to overrule? It is said that she didn’t involve herself in politics but to my understanding isn’t her word the final decision? Let’s go back for a moment when Queen Elizabeth the first reigned, did she have more say for lack of a better word? Or was there ever a time in England’s history where the King or Queen could make sure decisions that shaped the UK’s future? I hear on one side “Oh, she’s just a figurehead” but on another I hear that she had powers that she dear not used when it came to politics. From the research I did long ago I hear that she can dissolve a government on a whim. If she wasn’t too fond of MT why not be an Iron Crown? Maybe it wouldn’t look good for publicity? Or she had grown to respect MT that she didn’t want to be a thorn in her side? I can’t imagine MT going toe to toe with Queen Elizabeth the first or Even King Henry the 8th for that matter. But under Henry maybe she would have been found guilty of Treason against the crown and likely executed. I would love for someone to chime in and give their opinion because I know there are a lot of history buffs in the comment sections.
@dan_38
@dan_38 5 ай бұрын
One could, but the element of restrain was necessary for the way people will view their head of state. Henry VIII is forever Tyrant/ Bloody King Henry because of those actions of bending the government and the people to his whim, and his mass casualty adds to the dangers of a pushy head of State. No one in 20th c. Britain would've allowed that out of anyone, much less from QE. The last thing the people in any country want is a vindictive, power pushing monarch. That said, Thatcher was pushing the policies she herself saw as purely beneficial from a tinted car window, and at the same time pushing the limits of what QE wanted to the background if it meant that the Britain Thatcher was making was the one that was succeeding. It would not have taken much, but she never wanted too, and it would've continued up until the government simply ejected Thatcher by force.
@drrohanjacob
@drrohanjacob 5 ай бұрын
Well after what happened to charles the first britain became a republic. Parliament took all the powet they then got tierd and gave the throne to charles the second as a figurehead. The parliment restored the monarchy after stripping it of all power so every monarch hence exists as long as parliment allows thought they will never admit it 😂
@drrohanjacob
@drrohanjacob 5 ай бұрын
So basically parliament gave powers to the monarchy after unaliving the previous king under the strict condition that they never exercise said power .
@Iblameyouu
@Iblameyouu 5 ай бұрын
@@drrohanjacob That's so interesting!!! I was doing some research and learned that in the year Henry the I the fourth son of William the Conqueror, strengthened his father's conquest and royal administration. He issued the Charter of Liberties, which promised to limit the king's power and protect the rights of the nobility and church. (1100-1135) I always thought Kings always had absolute power way back when. But that wasn't the case. France seemed to have an absoulute monarchy with "Louis the fat," he worked to strengthen royal authority and reduce the power of rebellious nobles. He laid the groundwork for greater centralization of power. (1108-1137) Even before the 1100's the concept of an absoulute monarchy where a king wields unchallanged and complete authority was not fully recognized in Europe. That's eye-opening for me. There were instances of powerful monarchs where a king or queen had complete and unchallanged authority but that was more developed in the 16th and 17th centuries. It seems like early rulers had to navigate complex relationships with nobles, religious leaders, and other power structures which balanced and sometimes limited their authority. Even King Alfred the Great (871-899 AD) had substantial control over his kingdom instituting legal reforms and military defenses yet his power was still balanced by local lords and the "Witenagemot" (council of nobles) I did some digging in Ancient Egypt with the Pharaohs and in the Old and Middle kingdoms they were seen as god-kings with nearly absoulute power. Their authority was central and exstensive, although they still needed the support of a complex bureaucracy and priesthood. So it is not what it was growing up and learning that a King could do whatever he wanted or Queen. It was much more complex than I thought!! Also, thank you for replying I love engaging conversations like this! :)
@drrohanjacob
@drrohanjacob 5 ай бұрын
@@Iblameyouu 👍🏼Sure
@louisdawes2337
@louisdawes2337 6 ай бұрын
Couldnt they just have talked it out over the phone?
@Bigmojojo
@Bigmojojo 4 ай бұрын
That probably would have made things worse. Given how many times Thatcher veto the speech tempers would have flared up in a phone call. By doing it this way, you say on point and focus on correcting that issue. You don't drift into other subjects like you do when you get angry and get into a verbal fight with the other side.
@jmmclaughlin1989
@jmmclaughlin1989 3 ай бұрын
You would think that the queen and Thatcher would simply sit down face to face and agree on a word rather than a silly game of back-and-forth.
@fadikhoory5350
@fadikhoory5350 6 ай бұрын
Consuela.
@superblyrandom9630
@superblyrandom9630 6 ай бұрын
No... No. No..
@Jamesaepp
@Jamesaepp 6 ай бұрын
@@superblyrandom9630 Mr John no here.
@SKa-tt9nm
@SKa-tt9nm 4 ай бұрын
Best comment! Bravo!
@SKa-tt9nm
@SKa-tt9nm 4 ай бұрын
@@Jamesaepp I clean (sprays Apartheid with pledge)
@gavanhill5132
@gavanhill5132 4 ай бұрын
Mr Sanction no here right now. I no can sign.
@Fitchy-ke3wz
@Fitchy-ke3wz 3 ай бұрын
I don't often get into a fight, but when I do I want to win.
@jean-philippedoyon9904
@jean-philippedoyon9904 6 ай бұрын
It's cliché but...the pen is mightier than the sword and words matter. Tatcher knows it and from an internationale relation point of view, some of those words were ridiculous to put !
@bowchickabowwowthatswhatmy3219
@bowchickabowwowthatswhatmy3219 6 ай бұрын
this was her refusing to agree to sanctions against APARTHEID. this is not a good moment for her
@jean-philippedoyon9904
@jean-philippedoyon9904 6 ай бұрын
@bowchickabowwowthatswhatmy3219 I agree, but her decision is based on party line first, then state...classic mistakes when you have an historic event such as this.
@idraote
@idraote 6 ай бұрын
Thatcher was very little ""internationally oriented"" and she understood very little of the world around the UK. The daughter of a corner shop owner she was born, and the daughter of a corner shop owner she remained throughout her disgraceful political career.
@bowchickabowwowthatswhatmy3219
@bowchickabowwowthatswhatmy3219 6 ай бұрын
@@idraote i think she actually understood fairly well, she just didn’t care
@jordansparks6113
@jordansparks6113 3 ай бұрын
How did they win? Apartheid went on for decades after this. Symbolism yes, but an empty victory for a country with inbuilt racism that sadly exists to this day. And really were the USA or Australia or numerous South American countries any better in this regard? Segregation in the USA, the White Australia policy, similar policies in Brazil and Argentina in the 20th century to whiten their population. It’s not just South Africa that practiced a kinda apartheid.
@mgk2600
@mgk2600 6 ай бұрын
Reminds me of my 7th grade English teacher
@victordeoliveira4380
@victordeoliveira4380 3 ай бұрын
It's not about a single word, it's about power. Thatcher made several heads of state and secretaries wait for her response, at some point someone said that Margaret made everyone go down on their knees to her.
@Rat_Queen86
@Rat_Queen86 6 ай бұрын
So....all they needed was a thesaurus?
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 6 ай бұрын
The one word was obviously a metaphor for different polices. It would bore the audience to show them in full statements with the wordings changed all the time.
@Rat_Queen86
@Rat_Queen86 6 ай бұрын
@@falconeshield but it focused on one word being changed. Then the writer they selected came up with a list of synonyms. Ergo, all they needed was a thesaurus.
@Brend.0
@Brend.0 5 ай бұрын
They were looking for a word that was vaguely threatening without it being a threat of an actual action. Signals fit that word perfectly.
@Malignus68
@Malignus68 4 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was gonna say. You beat me to it.
@condor7964
@condor7964 4 ай бұрын
@@Brend.0 Literally half those words should've worked.
@petersumner7367
@petersumner7367 4 ай бұрын
The point of of a PM is they ARE in control, sadly not anymore
@htimsid
@htimsid 6 ай бұрын
Is that a Tempo felt-tip?! Sacrilege!
@eudianamartinsofc
@eudianamartinsofc 6 ай бұрын
Hey, good morning! 🌤️🏖️
@mn5499
@mn5499 6 ай бұрын
Morning
@ThomasGAinsworth
@ThomasGAinsworth 15 күн бұрын
The cast did a wonderful performance in this scene, both Mrs T and the Queen were right about South Africa at the time, it was a important economy in the Commonwealth it was a economic partner nobody could afford to lose at the time
@dkchen
@dkchen 5 ай бұрын
I hate how they portrayed Margaret Thatcher. They made it seem like the Queen and her had a fued, but in reality they were good friends.
@erfanshamsss
@erfanshamsss 7 күн бұрын
Take it.. 1:47
@KD-jg5yd
@KD-jg5yd 6 күн бұрын
2:18 to be fair, "proposals" was vetoed at the first round. :-)
@lanslarrazabaldemartinez6829
@lanslarrazabaldemartinez6829 2 күн бұрын
That was how Margaret Thatcher always worked.. she had a checklist, she would highlight and encircle words and put marks on like an asteris ✳️ to point things out. And yes, she always made use of a felt-tip pen. It comes with working in a grocers store where one makes use of checklists and pens, especially for takes and errands and that's how mrs. Thatcher worked in process.
@callmeswivelhips8229
@callmeswivelhips8229 2 ай бұрын
I'm convinced it's this power play that eventually lead to Thatcher's downfall. At least in context of the show.
@JosFort54321
@JosFort54321 6 ай бұрын
ChatGPT could have ended this nonsense in seconds 😅
@arielk2955
@arielk2955 6 ай бұрын
but there wouldn’t be the drama nor the thrill 🤪
@honinakecheta601
@honinakecheta601 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂future kings and queens will likely use it
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 6 ай бұрын
43 years too early hahah
@corndorn
@corndorn 6 ай бұрын
Chat GPT is literally the type of thing that can’t solve this issue. Sure it can give a million suggestions. But so can the advisors. It can’t read mood, or opinion, or measure political implications. Stfu and gtfo with the ChatGPT gobbling. It’s a tool - but it’s useless compared to a human.
@Rat_Queen86
@Rat_Queen86 6 ай бұрын
A thesaurus would have ended this instantly!
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 6 ай бұрын
0:24 B'gawd I miss you
@Jamietheroadrunner
@Jamietheroadrunner 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t know The Crown was a comedy 😂
@bcbock
@bcbock 5 ай бұрын
It has moments of comedy. And politics is often self-satirical.
@yesh_phani.25
@yesh_phani.25 Ай бұрын
A political one at that!
@user-sp5fr7nv1e
@user-sp5fr7nv1e 3 ай бұрын
Can you imagine the Queen drama today? On Twitter? Or X or whatevaaaa!!!
@jeanlebreton2049
@jeanlebreton2049 6 ай бұрын
About which statement was it?
@heterofob
@heterofob 6 ай бұрын
imposing sanctions on South Africa due to Apartheid
@prismaticmarcus
@prismaticmarcus 6 ай бұрын
sanctions against South Africa
@SN-sz7kw
@SN-sz7kw 6 ай бұрын
SA apartheid
@---df5sr
@---df5sr 4 ай бұрын
Hated Jillian as Margaret, she laid it on the way too thick, hugely overdid the impression took me out of it
@bluebell0138
@bluebell0138 3 ай бұрын
She was very good as Thatcher. She go the whole awfulness of the woman completely right.
@HTHAMMACK1
@HTHAMMACK1 2 ай бұрын
She was exceptional.
@tocororo
@tocororo 2 ай бұрын
I agree. She was indeed terrible. Her face was like she was permanently constipated. 😖
@colleens1107
@colleens1107 15 күн бұрын
Personally all the Queen should have done was mention to the “sources close to her” about how Thatchers son has business dealings in South Africa and thus CONFLICT OF INTEREST being her reason for refusing to sanction Apartheid would get the message to Thatcher: CONDEMN FUCKING APARTHEID OR THE WORLD KNOWS
@Joelpalmer123
@Joelpalmer123 Күн бұрын
Why didn't they just ask her what would want on it
@OliverTrist
@OliverTrist 4 ай бұрын
30 seconds with Google thesaurus would have resolved that. All they needed was a time machine...
@jlarticulo6899
@jlarticulo6899 6 ай бұрын
The real Margaret Thatcher doesn't have a stiff neck
@Gerry76alpha
@Gerry76alpha 5 ай бұрын
Agree
@jonathanmccomb4187
@jonathanmccomb4187 5 ай бұрын
Technically, she does now......
@hugothepinkcat
@hugothepinkcat 4 ай бұрын
@@jonathanmccomb4187 This made me audible chortle
@ReaverLordTonus
@ReaverLordTonus 19 күн бұрын
Help me to understand what was happening, Thatcher was not willing to go on record saying she disapproved of apartheid in South Africa because she could not afford to alienate them, or was she pro-apartheid and didn't want people to know she's a racist? I mean given The Iron Lady's duality that made her both one of the most revered and most reviled Prime Ministers in the UK's history, it could go either way to be honest.
@babynaysc
@babynaysc 5 ай бұрын
Love this scene, LOL
@SO_DIGITAL
@SO_DIGITAL 6 ай бұрын
May I have a word?
@bluephoenix1652
@bluephoenix1652 3 ай бұрын
Why can't she just choose the word that she thinks is best?
@Astronenot
@Astronenot 3 ай бұрын
it's not her job to make what she signs, especially when she already rejected the notion of sanctions
@CoachCarter94
@CoachCarter94 8 күн бұрын
Idk how many people I’m the comments have watched Hilda on Netflix but this all reminds me of the elves obsession with paperwork 😂
@SymphonyBrahms
@SymphonyBrahms 5 ай бұрын
Old Cow Thatcher being her usual annoying self.
@rodrigoguedes7902
@rodrigoguedes7902 5 ай бұрын
A real ping pong!
@DeborahGrant-vy9li
@DeborahGrant-vy9li 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely pointless
@Malignus68
@Malignus68 4 ай бұрын
Where's a thesaurus when you need one?
@amanullahkariapper2503
@amanullahkariapper2503 15 күн бұрын
Miss Maggie being on the wrong side of history, along with her son.
@star-roving
@star-roving 6 ай бұрын
Now they’re arguing in heaven
@bcbock
@bcbock 5 ай бұрын
What makes you think either of them went to heaven?
@erniemccracken2429
@erniemccracken2429 5 ай бұрын
@@bcbock God is right wing.
@bbenjoe
@bbenjoe 3 ай бұрын
What about 'contrafibularities' ?
@МарияПаршинв
@МарияПаршинв Ай бұрын
Poor Mrs. Thatcher... Such a terrible caricature... She never looked or sounded like that. This is unfair
@arindamkumar7725
@arindamkumar7725 6 ай бұрын
Who is this Sunny guy?
@jakeanthony9574
@jakeanthony9574 6 ай бұрын
Sir Sonny Ramphal, the Secretary-General of the Commonwealth of Nations at that time.
@carlosed-vd7fj
@carlosed-vd7fj 6 ай бұрын
Nnnou, nnnou , NNNOOU!!
@oc5297
@oc5297 6 ай бұрын
Thatcher in this scene was right. The 48 countries moved to her goalpost.
@KNSKelster
@KNSKelster 5 ай бұрын
Did they move to her goalpost? Or was she so focused on her goalpost that she didn’t notice she by the goalpost of the other 48. As was stated in the clip, she agreed to several signals that she would’ve never contemplated if they were called sanctions
@AbraXas-bi9ux
@AbraXas-bi9ux 17 күн бұрын
from a great Empire to Brexit. poor England
@a.m7357
@a.m7357 4 ай бұрын
Can someone explain me what was the story here i forgot
@pompe221
@pompe221 3 ай бұрын
I think something about condemning apartheid in South Africa and the actions England will take to show their displeasure?
@RyanRuark
@RyanRuark 2 ай бұрын
Thatcher was a wicked creature
@gordonrobertson6502
@gordonrobertson6502 6 ай бұрын
Maggie was right, Queenie was wrong on this.
@precariousworlds3029
@precariousworlds3029 6 ай бұрын
Why?
@cg1123omg
@cg1123omg 6 ай бұрын
History is not kind to Thatcher. Rightly so.
@stuffmcstuff399
@stuffmcstuff399 6 ай бұрын
Sure, she had her down sides. Though in this video she was always against any term like Sanction as they never worked. "Sanctions never work" is her, general, quote. She always dragged the UK kicking, and screaming, into the modern world against great opposition. We are better for it. I like to label her as a necessary evil. Gets the needed job done and doesn't care what people think as they know it will be a boon. Blair carried on her work - Just under a more approachable, and charismatic, umbrella. To which the Tories have tried to hinder ever since. Politics, a fickle game.
@kendallbedford2523
@kendallbedford2523 6 ай бұрын
She's not the only one to blame for what happened in South Africa
@mayaflici374
@mayaflici374 6 ай бұрын
​@@kendallbedford2523but she clearly didn't do anything to stop it.
@blurdreamer
@blurdreamer 6 ай бұрын
she got Order of Merit from The Queen, won a war, I think she is good.
@danielwarren3138
@danielwarren3138 6 ай бұрын
I don't really understand this scene, as it makes it appear the queen was directly involved in it? As far as I'm aware she would never be involved in international matters like this
@nickexarheas2880
@nickexarheas2880 4 ай бұрын
The UK is still paying the bill for Thacher's mistakes.
@ryanscottlogan8459
@ryanscottlogan8459 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@blueblack3591
@blueblack3591 22 күн бұрын
Evil
@andrewking702
@andrewking702 19 күн бұрын
Two women in government...
@brandonmoreland4392
@brandonmoreland4392 5 ай бұрын
It's a wonder why Brittain is irrelevant now
@rodolfosoto4070
@rodolfosoto4070 6 ай бұрын
Par de aferradas
@carlhicksjr8401
@carlhicksjr8401 6 ай бұрын
OK, I get it. This was two powerful women, one the elected head of a nuclear power, the other the symbol, icon, and sovereign of that power and what image that power wanted to project in a male dominated world. But Jesus Christ this was petty nonsense. Don't get me wrong here... I'm well aware that men can be just juvenile, petty, and silly and that often the voters put people into office that have all those character traits in spades. But it is so hard to break out a thesaurus and then ask each party in the argument what word is acceptable?
@jackdoyle7453
@jackdoyle7453 6 ай бұрын
Well one had no right to be in involved at all, and in reality probably wasn't, the PM is elected
@carlhicksjr8401
@carlhicksjr8401 6 ай бұрын
@@jackdoyle7453 As I understand it [and I'm an American and didn't live through this, so it's all second-hand to me], HM Elizabeth was deeply embarrassed about Rhodesia and wanted South Africa to right its policies before a similar bloodbath happened. She didn't often take a stand on policy decisions from her Governments, but when she did she meant it. Thatcher [I'm aware of her very mixed memory in the UK] was right the UK could not afford to lose 3 billion Pounds in trade, but HM had a solid point in that she was sovereign for ALL the peoples of the Commonwealth, not just the monied interests.
@carlhicksjr8401
@carlhicksjr8401 6 ай бұрын
@Funtimeomg Oh, I understand that both women were serious about the issues and both were right from their point of view. However, holding up a major policy decision over a word that could have been found with a thesaurus isn't the most mature thing in the world, is it?
@fanglethorpe
@fanglethorpe 5 ай бұрын
This makes the crown and Thatcher to be weak... Did they want to make two strong woman look weak? Strange.
@torbergman6977
@torbergman6977 4 ай бұрын
Exactly like ME rejecting every date proposal! 😂
@CzolgoszWorkinMan
@CzolgoszWorkinMan 4 ай бұрын
polestar of human evil
@JenniferPicaninny
@JenniferPicaninny 4 ай бұрын
X files
@andythompson6874
@andythompson6874 Ай бұрын
All in all, South Africa was a much more stable, democratic and prosperous nation under apartheid than it is now. The common people have not more say in the running of the nations that they did under apartheid, and now South Africa is on the verge of bankruptcy and chaos.
@andrewwilson9183
@andrewwilson9183 13 күн бұрын
That’s because it was doomed to begin with after the Afrikaners took over
@Pisti846
@Pisti846 6 ай бұрын
Is this when the Queen sell Rhodesia down the river?
@jackdoyle7453
@jackdoyle7453 6 ай бұрын
Fuck me I hate being on Thatcher's side.
@blurdreamer
@blurdreamer 6 ай бұрын
is cool being on Thatcher's side. one against 48 and won.
@justinanthony0890
@justinanthony0890 5 ай бұрын
Awful woman.
@MiiFone1
@MiiFone1 6 ай бұрын
Marget Thatcher was by far the better leader. To bad she had to deal with a monarchy since all the effort to coddle the queen in regards to the common wealth probably wasted large amounts of time which could have been better spent to the benefit of Great britain
@idraote
@idraote 6 ай бұрын
Thatcher was a disgrace. She managed to destroy Britains welfare and economic power with a few fell swoops.
@walkerhaw5468
@walkerhaw5468 6 ай бұрын
Margret Thatcher is the best example of leadership I can possibly think of.
@cristianoliver4447
@cristianoliver4447 6 ай бұрын
She's the best unisex urinal in the UK, currently. ❤
@AdrianMendoza23
@AdrianMendoza23 6 ай бұрын
🤣
@idraote
@idraote 6 ай бұрын
such a limited imagination we have, haven't we.
@raddish4256
@raddish4256 6 ай бұрын
No way really?
@fmcg5364
@fmcg5364 6 ай бұрын
If you loved Mrs. Thatcher then you must have admired Reagan as well. What he did to the unions in the US was bad enough. But carrying out a plan devised in 1973 to destroy the coal miners union in the UK was dastardly. There are still places in your former coal miners towns that are the poorest in Europe. Policies of these two "leaders" had a lasting negative effect on their both countries. "The rich got richer and poor got poorer".
@jeromefitzroy
@jeromefitzroy 5 ай бұрын
Ding dong the witch is dead
@erniemccracken2429
@erniemccracken2429 5 ай бұрын
She'd be thrilled to know she still gets a rise out of the loony left.
@noureenqaiser1758
@noureenqaiser1758 6 ай бұрын
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