'Margin Call': A Movie Occupied With Wall Street 🎬

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[@derekfcc]

This is what happens in my head when the 12 shares that I hold lose 0.000005% of their value

[@cjmllvv]

Hahahahahahhahahhahahaha

[@shonuff4323]

LOL. Safemoon!

[@aaronsalentine7876]

This was Melvin capital in January. Lol

[@Bowzmaster1225]

Buy AMC

[@jackh.6217]

Soon to be Citadel too

[@jshepard152]

We had a similar meeting last year at my job due to covid. Very tense, a lot on the line. But if we succeeded at our goal, we could potentially get a Piggly Wiggly gift certificate redeemable for one free ham or turkey.

[@onion111]

Same here but the incentive was a paid day for covid recovery and a washable face mask.

[@ogrehaslayers605]

Honey ham?

[@thor9294]

Did you take the ham or the turkey, tho?

[@cos66]

Gees that sucks man what if you dont eat swine ,and your a veggie

[@jshepard152]

@@thor9294 Turkey. They were out of ham.

[@kevinkasp]

The casting and acting in this movie is the highest level of any movie I've ever seen. NOBODY seems like they are acting, or speaking words they've memorized that were written by somebody else. And each character is a fully fleshed out personality. I am in awe of the acting in this movie.

[@ensiangtan]

Hell of an actor, how he portray the feeling of guilt and yet trying to keep the spirit up for the fire sale is really on point. 10/10

[@luisfernandez-izquierdo502]

very impressive, let’s see Paul Allen’s fire sale now.

[@ORGAniZMs]

Oh my god, it even has a little water hose.

[@brighterrecorder1645]

😂😂😂

[@pizzashit69]

Patrick, what’s wrong.m? You’re sweating.

[@montyi8]

Where is Bateman?

[@CS-yc6qp]

lol

[@curtc4918]

I love how the Simon Baker character partially hides behind the doorframe while Kevin Spacey delivers the bad news. Typical Fortune 500 empty suit.

[@damianlee4822]

This and the Big Short should be in the Horror genre

[@xrpedro]

😂

[@89five3five]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rumrnr78]

Guess what’s coming with apes holding?

[@millionf1]

The meta point is that in his speech, he is selling words of encouragement that he knows are worthless in the very same breaths in which he is instructing his team to sell assets with no value. His motivational speech is itself a fire sale, starting with value and ending worthless. This film is an underrated masterpiece.

[@seanquinn4787]

I never considered that. Great catch.

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

I love this about it, that he tells them the facts and then tries to morally justify their role but fails hopelessly.

[@IZn0g0uDatAll]

You can see his sincerity, but that the one thing he really doesn’t believe is that their talent has been used for the greater good. It’s as if the words refused to pass his mouth. Amazing acting.

[@88mphDrBrown]

Glad to see that you love Kevin Spacey and think he's a great person.

[@michaeltreend3567]

"You're through to Citadel how may I help you?" "Its a call for Kenny, tell him its Margin calling"

[@orpheusepiphanes2797]

lol

[@bradawilliams1]

She'll tell you to"... please hold."

[@raisedbyhousewives]

@@bradawilliams1 hodl we will ma’am.

[@TripleFi5]

HODL 🚀

[@blankblankpog]

The lost is theoretically infinite

[@thomaszajc7987]

you see it throughout the film, but one of the best things about this film is when spacyes character is talking: when the glasses are on, its the executive boss, leading the team the company man trying to steer them through the rough. The glasses come off and its the human, realizing the gravity of what is going on, and is deeply affected by it. Man this was a great film.

[@GabrielCsaba]

I could watch this movie and all of its clips a hundred times. In fact, I think I have.

[@D.E._Sarcarean]

In reality, most of the top tier traders would have stood up and walked out. The offer he is making is: everyone gets a 1.3M/2.6M bonus, if you sell out all your contacts that took you 10+ years to make and guarantee you being black listed FOREVER. On Wall Street, most traders of this caliper make 5M+ annual bonuses.

[@Palemagpie]

The most unrealistic part of this is where the company acknowledges that it'll negatively affect their employees

[@David-vn4qu]

What do you mean?

[@scrow7752]

@@David-vn4qu in reality it would be framed as the company being as much a victim as the employees, in the hope that it would let them get away with throwing an office pizza party instead of paying out millions in cash bonuses

[@johnl.7754]

Well they got a 2.7 million dollar bonus if it’s achieved

[@hamdankhan319]

@@David-vn4qu the companies never let their dirty deeds out in the open. Meaning in real life the employeez would also be bamboozled, only the CEOs get out clean outta this mess with big fat checks from the government courtesy of the taxpayers.

[@thechickenduck8377]

Hahahaha 1000%. Reminds me of any employer I’ve been with in any country

[@SellingEsperanza]

Watching this now because AMC and GME to the m00n 🚀

[@bzz8233]

AMC TO THE MOOON!!!!

[@kylesinclair5002]

HODL 🦍💎🙌🏻💎🦍

[@PaulyV93]

#WeOwnTheFloat

[@andrewr2349]

What a day today💎🙌🦍

[@PaulyV93]

@@andrewr2349 sheeeeesh what about today!!!!!!! 🤯

[@titaniumsandwedge]

Very often a Wall Street firm must unload securities due to concentration of risk. A bookie does the same when he is lop sided on the bets. So when the sales people say "my loss is your gain" the buyer thinks a bargain is coming his way. So speed is of utmost importance. In real life this scenario played out recently in the Archegos margin call fire sale. Two banks, Morgan Stanley and UBS were quick to unload and still lost millions. Two other banks, Nomura and Credite Suisse were slow to unload and lost billions.

[@fang_xianfu]

I always took "my loss is your gain" - and everything else he says in that scene - to be hints to the people he's talking to. He outright says it, "this is a loss for us". He doesn't want to completely pull the wool over their eyes. But he's going to give them a steep discount, and if they're willing to play the game, if they think they can sell it on before the market is totally wrecked, they can make money too.

[@bartok1378]

93% seems like an unrealistic goal. Just enough where they probably only have to pay out a few bonuses to the top guys. But just enough motivation to get everyone else motivated enough to sell as much as they can to achieve their bonuses.

[@KatsuKingTV]

Citadel.. Kevin spacey is calling..

[@fawziekefli2273]

The last part of Sam's speech, where he's struggle to say what theie talents have been used for, and finally grasps for an ambiguous "greater good" instead if the "lining the executives pockets" or even Told's "so that we may survive," is a master class of acting. You can see Sam, at that point, visibly stopping to justify what they were about to do, and gave up to the inevitable.

[@phillipstankey8881]

1987 and 2008...the two times in my lifetime that the markets almost completely melted down....2008 was worse and I was more aware (worked at a ML branch) which made it even more scary

[@amitnagpal1985]

The stark honesty was refreshing.

[@jrighteous1984]

When Citadel gets margin called !

[@genusrosaceous]

My company is going through something similar right now. My department will be taking the hit first. We had the "some of you will be re-positioned in the company" conversation. Then, after the conversation, they noted how they expect us all to keep putting forth our best work until dooms day. Goodness, this scene is VERY true to life. For us, though, there will be no $1.3 million incentive--just a "thank you for you doing a good job" pat on the back, and that's all. :-( Please pray for me. :-( I pray to God we pull through.

[@darknessfollows3194]

I thought y’all were all getting two shares of CLOVE

[@desertlogic222]

I know he’s done some shit but damn, Kevin Spacey is a hell of an actor.

[@jaybeebabee]

yeah just had the exact same thought

[@D.E._Sarcarean]

Actually, he has not been charged or convicted for that matter for any wrong doing. His only accuser was deemed un-credible (i.e a liar) and upon subpoena, failed to turn over evidence.

[@rmca11]

@@D.E._Sarcarean Exactly, it's a pure witch hunt, plain and simple. In my eyes he has done nothing wrong until found guilty in a court of law.

[@otakucat3827]

I don't think he did anything illegal because the accusers never have any evidence or witnesses. Kevin Spacey basically had his career ruined because everyone just assumed he was guilty.

[@siko1101]

you must be a sjw snowflake. grow up, ol Kevin didn't do anything wrong

[@cyberryderfx7577]

This is soooooo well played. Incredible! 😮

[@mikeycrist5086]

If it were me, part of me wants to say "how could I do it in good conscience".....and part of me wants to say John Tuld is right; we are just selling the same thing we always have, to the same willing buyers. A dilemma. Then.....they wave 2.7 million dollars in my face, and the balance gets tipped!!!!

[@whatitdo6287]

This is basically the entire cryptocurrency community at the moment.

[@StNashable]

I was about to say the same

[@TheSakufighter]

Just think of the people who bought BTC at 60k

[@MrDuewell]

good thing i have all my money in the tulip market

[@whatitdo6287]

@@TheSakufighter Just the thought of that makes me want to barf 🤮 I'm buying now

[@YourDadsBoyfriend]

Every 2 years or so. The elites longest running ponzi scheme

[@cfamick]

Spacey is so good, and this might even be his best performance because it's real.

[@88mphDrBrown]

He's my hero, a truly great person. ❤💖💗💓

[@NibberKSmooth]

That whistle as if herding dogs tells you everything.

[@weirdshibainu]

4 years ago, I was part of a corporate downsizing. I knew it was coming for months, just not the exact date. We were assembled in a room and given the smoke and mirrors treatment. We were given a generous severance package separately and individually. My manager and H.R. rep started to give me the canned speech. I cut them off, asked where I needed to sign. My manager walked me to my office and asked if I needed a box for my personal effects. I said...I knew this was coming...all I need is my keys and wallet. I walked out with my severance package. On my way out, I saw people in tears. I just don't get the drama of getting downsized, especially when you know it's coming.

[@grayden4138]

A seller is a seller; always. He's speaking like he's done this before when in the previous scene Zachary Quinto's character asks him if he's ever done anything like this and Spacey's character says "no" like a Captain whose telling his crew to sail directly into a raging storm during the calm before it. Who was he lying to? Quinto's character or the brokers?

[@stephenr80]

My loss is your win today

[@ishaq24722]

One of the few great movies recently among mostly violent and superhero movies.

[@besoamy1]

I doubt Kenny's speach will be as eloquent..lol

[@PrimerCinePodcast]

Oh god we’re having a FIRE.. sale

[@srshwa]

Loool

[@whiteknight012]

"Aaaaamaaazzzing Graaaacee..."

[@ramanaidu9605]

Now that I have done my finance classes, I really understand the gravity of the situation!!!! The sheer pressure and knowledge that your career will have a downwards sloping graph from this day onwards and having to do that activity that leads to that with with commitment. That is the toughest thing to do.

[@laserflight]

The problem is if a few do this, they stain everybody's carreer. So the way out is to join in and get the bonus atleast

[@Rasbiff]

At the end he gets up and puts on his glasses. That's his signal to everyone in the room that "all I'm saying from now on is bullshit." "... And our talents have been used... *trying to get the words out*... forthegreatergood. Here's your packages." *leaves*

[@seshadrianantharaman7676]

this movie is so good because of the finer details... 0:12 - that expression says it all... give that man an Oscar

[@hamdankhan319]

Idk, looks like a random Eastern European dude working in finance. The all have dead serious looks.

[@jarilyn23]

Amc is about to squeeze!!! Hurry if you want a piece of the pie!

[@davidgolden6068]

this comment aged well

[@Duebie]

@@davidgolden6068 This week tho

[@neowolf09]

@@davidgolden6068 and it's not over yet

[@Missyou-.]

Still waiting…

[@vasilisneorun1700]

Great tension in the dialogues....very powerful and very well written & performed..!!

[@stephenr9194]

I've seen this movie half a dozen times now and it never gets old...

[@paulorlando6087]

Notice how Spacey lights up when explaining the bonus incentive?

[@niklasschaab4763]

Worldclass movie with the best actors you could wish for. I love this scene.

[@redshift3]

"We have accomplished much and our talents have been used for the greater good." Ha ha ha

[@JohnSmith-bm6zg]

When he takes off his glasses, he is telling the truth

[@jvolstad]

Great acting. This is 2021 for sure.

[@Crunchifyable2]

"our talents have been used for the greater good." Most funny, ironic line in the whole movie.

[@fitafries7274]

On a side note - Mr Kevin Spacey is a great actor.

[@alrom125]

He’s a bad human but yeah he’s a phenomenal actor

[@shaystern2453]

@@alrom125 should not be judged as a human

[@blank557]

No matter how much spin and sugar he puts on it, he's asking them to sell bad stocks to people who trust them, to save themselves. I would hope some of them would refuse, and just walk out the door. They have nothing to lose, as their positions are toast anyway. But at least they can look at themselves in the mirror the next day.

[@DjArie09]

Poor associates. They would risk their career and never achieve 93% of sales.

[@DoubleOSeven007]

$2.7 should do it. Retire.

[@isitjustmeorwhat9748]

WOW....I THINK THE TWO GUYS AT THE END WERE THINKING "I WISH THAT I WAS AN APE RIGHT ABOUT NOW"

[@lancea9785]

$AMC 10k in 3 weeks.

[@adsr14]

Too low too late. 100k less than 2 weeks. My prediction.

[@fanuvgod1]

I laugh but I hope so because I have 5 shares lmao

[@massawakening1072]

OOTOO TO THE MOOON

[@taxfreetea]

@@massawakening1072 🦆

[@siquanwu3131]

Regardless of his personality and predatory behaviour, Kevin Spacey is one of the all time greatest actors, period.

[@grigturcescu6190]

He is. I'm so angry at him that he couldn't keep it together and robbed me of his genius onscreen. I guess when you became too successful you get delusional and believe that you can do anything.

[@amidhmi5243]

I always remember his hand gestures in this amazing scene.

[@MarcPagan]

My hedge fund went from $9 billion USD to $2 in 48 hours ....due to a fire sale of muni bonds, set off by a LIBOR change

[@kbflorida888]

Sorry buddy. I know one guy who in 2009 said goodbye to $14 million in real estate.

[@johnjorgensen8009]

Loved this movie! Well written, great pace, excellent acting, and a number of compelling messages. However, a few things don't work. First, if a major Wall Street firm only has two risk analysts, I would be shocked. These firms are FILLED with MIT PHDs. Lots of brilliant people work on Wall Street. Something tells me that any firm that is custom producing mixed risk tranche mortgage back security products in such volume would have a very active risk management operation. Secondly, they would not discover almost by accident that their portfolio has breached risk parameters. Numerous people would be well aware DAILY of their risk capital situation. I think this script keeps the the cast small and the tension palpable. Now, do I believe most investment banks would knowingly sell worthless mortgage backed securities? Absolutely, and the crash in 08 makes that clear.

[@grast5150]

Nope, I worked for Citigroup during the housing crash. The entire San Francisco office has exactly 3 risk analysts. Each analyst were NOT PHD's, they had their Bachelors in Economics and Masters in either Business or Economics. The goal of the risk analyst was work for dedicated bankers which were selling the mixed risk NBS products. The people actually making the NBS products were in New York and a completely separate organization. So the people selling the products were isolated from the people creating the products. I know from the IT group in New York the entire risk management department was less than 8 people including managers and senior bankers which thought up these securities in the first place. Based on my conversations during that time with actual bankers, Citi did not care about the risk because these securities were not Citi's books for very long as Fanny and Freddy were buying. So over time, risk management was completely obscured because management view the risk to be low because the U.S Government was primary holder of most of these securities. The root cause of this whole issue was the U.S. Government lending Billions of dollars to banks which in turn gave it to people with no ability to actual repay the loan.

[@Mathemagical55]

Risk Management departments are entirely occupied with making sure the firm conforms with the plethora of risk reporting frameworks and approved risk models. They're about as likely to uncover real risk as an audit by a big accountancy firm is to uncover fraud.

[@johnjorgensen8009]

@@grast5150 Very interesting. I worked for a firm in Chicago on the debt side. We put together bank qualified muni deals about the time CMO's got hot. I sold bank qualified bonds and CMO tranches to banks. I don't recall if we had a risk management team, but we did have our own MIT PHD. He had been involved in the development of mortgage back securities. So, you're saying they either didn't know their risk position, or more accurately; they didn't care.

[@aztechnology7996]

4:21 "but captain, I am unable to lie 🖖"

[@ericpowell4350]

Kevin Spacey is an amazing actor.

[@againstalladsgames]

Selling something you know to be worthless is unconscionable.

[@UNKNOWN-zr9yw]

This movie is amazing , I watched it two days ago

[@tommyharris5817]

Is it better than The Big Short?

[@UNKNOWN-zr9yw]

@@tommyharris5817 I'll be watching that today , so I'll tell you later

[@UNKNOWN-zr9yw]

@@tommyharris5817 it's better than the big short in my opinion

[@doodlez2439]

@@UNKNOWN-zr9yw so which one is better to start with the big short or margin ???

[@oliverfujimori4625]

@@doodlez2439 I believe the Big Short is better because it puts the context preceding the crash more clearly. Then margin call

[@dbs567]

I admire how fresh and coherent the guys who were up all night are...

[@sevencolours5014]

For the greater good! Cheers!

[@ashrafulhaque9787]

Some serious acting here. Bravo!

[@INNO222]

Spacey and the crew did a great job IMO. Great movie.

[@AleksandreMzhavia]

... Say whatever you want, but this is a master at the top of his craft.

[@larrycobb5798]

Kevin Spacey is a hell of an actor I forgot that I was watching a movie for a moment there.

[@gregconover4714]

Congress: "Let's make it so anyone and everyone can get a mortgage. No income verification, no assets required...we want it to be fair." Banks: "We want on this easy business. More and more mortgages! We just sell them in the secondary market." Supply and demand raises prices. Consumers see "no risk" in buying houses they can't afford. "We can just refinance later as our houses increase in value." 7 year balloon mortgages come due as prices of housing plummets and no one can refinance. "I owe $700,000 on a home now worth $350,000??" They walk away and bam! Congress undoes what they started and smiles.

[@freelookmode9837]

That's a fascinating alternate history of half truths and omissions

[@davidtimus4026]

@@freelookmode9837 please elucidate us. What is the other half of the story you have.

[@PaulRoneClarke]

Replace the word mortgage with vote And the word business with government. There. 2021 in a nutshell.

[@designslave38]

Keyser Söze crushing it yet again.

[@apevee4594]

AMC 🚀 Made me watch this movie! 🚀🚀

[@justkeepswimming6364]

Is this what’s happening now?

[@AM2K2]

No - but can I interest you in doggy coin?

[@3sappington]

I believe, yes, but worse. Worse, in the sense that people are not prepared. Most people are entrenched in how they look at all things. THINGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY, THEREFORE THEY ALWAYS WILL BE THIS WAY. They don't have flexible minds. The old system is collapsing. There will be a reordering of things. A new comprehensive system is rather imminent and it will be more than just financial. It could go one of two ways. Beneficial for most people or against most people. Money is useful but it's not everything. Prepare yourself as is best possible, physically, mentally, and most importantly spiritually.

[@mihu02]

@@AM2K2 haha christ i laughed too hard at this :D

[@sugadaddy7050]

The sad truth is both YES and NO. In 2008, Synthetic CDOs' nearly crashed the world economy. In 2021, it will be Synthetic Shares. I think it will be worse than 2008 because of the number of these 'fake' shares floating around the market. It is currently still legal for Market makers to create Synthetic Shares and they have flagrantly abused this privilege by creating millions (or possibly hundreds of millions) of 'fake' shares and flooding the market with them. It was in the hopes that certain stocks (like AMC, GME, BBB, BB and NAKD) would go bankrupt. When a company files for bankruptcy ALL SHARES, SYNTHETIC OR OTHERWISE, ARE DESTROYED and the owning firm DOES NOT have to pay federal taxes on them. That means certain short sellers could have millions of I.O.U.s out there, not pay them back make millions r even BILLIONS and NOT pay a single penny in federal taxes. AMC for one came dangerously close to filing for bankruptcy and it is believed that there are over one billion synthetic shares of AMC floating around. But AMC's price keeps increasing so these firm with short positions will have to settle their positions at some point and when they do, 2008 all over again, only this time it will be legendary...

[@thebuttaman3993]

@@3sappington you are literally an idiot

[@HaloFreakGaming]

AMC entertainment to the moon!!!!

[@SellTheBenefits]

2021: Margin Call the Entire US

[@nathanfaceyahoosux]

I keep wondering if that’s going to happen. Or if things will kind of limp on in fits and starts every so often. Crazy times.

[@tonylaskowski8074]

Got that right.

[@0daadaadaa0]

Dont hold your breath - they said the Gamestop thing will change finance forever.

[@hamdankhan319]

@@0daadaadaa0 it did. We know that the government is still in cahoots with Wallstreet. It was never about money, it was about sending a message, which it surely did.

[@SellTheBenefits]

@Paul Flusk You’re on to something. Safe havens the next couple years? Silver, real estate and no debt.

[@joelittorres]

Kevin Spacey is one hell of an actor. One one hell of a SICKO.

[@YetwooYT]

is this LIVE video from Citadel?

[@rbl4641]

A great scene, the "greater good" now that's a rationalization!!

[@findingstyle]

Wellcome back👨🏾‍🎨

[@amcgorilla5614]

AMC to the Moon 🌙

[@devanman7920]

This is such a fantastic movie. Great actors great script.

[@Wall2000x]

You give them something. Top guys get tens of millions, these sales guys might have grossed 800-900k.

[@redneckrevolt1]

This should be unacceptable and we shouldn’t let risk hungry investing firms play with sometimes $billions and liquidate on a whim. There should be a law in place that makes them hold through the tough times. If they don’t want to, they should be more careful at what they invest in!!!

[@JWCreations]

This is exactly like falling into the crypto traps

[@Where_Is_Ja]

can we get this guy uncancelled already, what a fucking actor!

[@stevedoolan1540]

"I'm very proud of the work we've done here, providing absolutely no worth to humanity but making tons of money out of the market"

[@fenrisulven5324]

"very very unique" at 3:00 LOL

[@af420rtr]

We're coming for you, hedgies.. What you think is yours... is already mine. Buy amc.

[@chrishiteshew729]

Let’s see this happen to citadel with amc to many short positions!

[@jayharkins7389]

Not even close

[@kevon5397]

@@jayharkins7389 you sure about that bud?

[@garvitgupta]

Sound of air condition duct, feels like you are in that room. Amazing sound and editing.

[@Taffer-bx7uc]

ALL SALES FINAL! EVERYTHING MUST GOOOOO!!!!!

[@ManCave1972]

These are your packets, these are the Glengarry leads.

[@jackpipe68]

Excellent casting and characters in this movie. These are exactly the kinds of characters inhabiting the investment banks. From Moore's stone-faced professional, to Bettany's wide-boy Will, and Iron's charming, but ruthless snake.

[@hoochworld]

Here cause of amc

[@tina7617]

A scene on AMC...next!

[@pawelpl9319]

Great piece of acting

[@hakant.7242]

It's a great movie in terms of cinema. There's a different detail in every scene for every character. Especially the character played by Kevin Spacey. When he's talking, the man behind him represents the pressure of the company. For example, his dog is actually the respect he has for his job. When he ends the movie, he buries it crying, which represents the death of moral values ​​in his job.

[@GraduateMonkey]

2:15 ...'your mother if she is buying' just brilliant )

[@andynewfriends]

Wait is this telling us to not get too attached to your employer? Work is just an investment.

[@smith-marsette2721]

What is the job title of the people that are selling the stocks?

[@Jr2728]

Trader

[@fitnessymas9605]

Do you know what company did this?