Marineford Analysis: The Art of War

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Mr Morj

Mr Morj

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@MrMorj
@MrMorj 4 жыл бұрын
More Marineford Analysis will be coming down the line, splitting this across multiple videos!
@shobhanmishra967
@shobhanmishra967 4 жыл бұрын
Pls pls pls do arc analysis more . Or maybe like take one topic out of the arc and expand upon it . Like hype for mafineford and sacrifice for ennies lobby or clash of ideology for water 7 or something whatever you think is the best
@StarPlatinumZaWardu
@StarPlatinumZaWardu 4 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍😍
@hhrrm620
@hhrrm620 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. I really want to know how haki was used in this.
@SuhbeTV
@SuhbeTV 4 жыл бұрын
AND YES ONCE AGAIN. I AM BAWING FROM YOUR VIDEOS. ONE PIECE IS THE BEST
@BrandoDennis
@BrandoDennis 4 жыл бұрын
You have by far the best One Piece analysis!!! Thank you!
@Dkmo94
@Dkmo94 4 жыл бұрын
Whenever I think Marineford I think Impel Down. Impel Down is honestly one of the most underrated arcs in the Manga. A masterful fast-paced build up that keeps you hooked from beginning to end just to pay off at Marineford. Impel Down is to Marineford what Water Seven is to Enies Lobby
@SilvrSavior
@SilvrSavior 4 жыл бұрын
Especially when you go back and read it from beginning to end and not week to week.
@jaredhall5169
@jaredhall5169 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t reread Marineford without reading impel down first. I still get emotional about Bonchan’s sacrifice.
@MatheusSM1000
@MatheusSM1000 4 жыл бұрын
THIS! Marineford is masterful, but the leadup in Impel Down might be my favorite arc in the series. So many amazing moments that act as a preparation for what's to come, but would be the high point of any other series.
@anonymous2964
@anonymous2964 4 жыл бұрын
Sabbody was kinda better than impel down.
@fawwazfarid5458
@fawwazfarid5458 4 жыл бұрын
@@MatheusSM1000 So many great moments! Mainly the fact that Luffy has a different 'crew' that helps him achieve his goal. Many memorable moments like Luffy's encounter with Blackbeard, Bon-chan's sacrifice, Magellan's character, and the great escape from the prison. It is definitely an underrated arc, Magellan was a great antagonist.
@qkqk4317
@qkqk4317 4 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to my man "I think the fire festival is going to fail". The hustler who became a patron just so we could hear Morj say the line again!
@tobiasurey1434
@tobiasurey1434 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO!
@niceaudiokevin3921
@niceaudiokevin3921 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@BatmanBateman.
@BatmanBateman. 4 жыл бұрын
HAHHAHAHAHAH what a legend
@LinkEX
@LinkEX 4 жыл бұрын
21:04, for those interested
@TheIcyBlade99
@TheIcyBlade99 4 жыл бұрын
I feel that "hype" is an often overlooked/unappreciated part of storytelling. There is a narrative importance in hype (as well as vibe for that matter) that I think sets the tone in a series that makes it stand out
@sanjivinsmoke4587
@sanjivinsmoke4587 4 жыл бұрын
that the Wano still didnt deliver.... or they?
@jojosoni6355
@jojosoni6355 4 жыл бұрын
Hype is a big factor deciding in how satisfactory the pay off was.
@emperorofinception3571
@emperorofinception3571 4 жыл бұрын
Hype can be as much of a problem as it is a help. Too much hype can cause expectations beyond what the author may in fact be able to deliver. Too much hype can also cause fans to make assumptions about what the author will do that the author may not necessarily promise. In Whole Cake arc, fans saw the "year of Sanji" as a sign that he would fight, abandon his principles, and a bunch of other things. Having seen such things in the past prove a disappointment, I just assumed it meant that he would play an important part in the events and he certainly did that. Regarding Naruto, I love that anime because it helped me at a time that i needed it most. That being said, I will agree that what the author did with Madara and Kaguya was a mistake. I wouldn't have minded so much if he had allowed Madara to use the full extent of his powers and abilities and then introduced her, but I also wouldn't have minded if she hadn't appeared here at all. To quote a game over in a game I have played "that's it? All that buildup and he just falls over like he's made of sticks". That was a really big mistake, if he was going to build something up for that long then the least he could do is make Madara worth the wait. Thankfully we got the final battle of Naruto vs Sasuke which I had been waiting for so at least that expectation was met. Please keep in mind these are merely my personal opinions, I mean no offense to anyone here.
@ghosthand9109
@ghosthand9109 4 жыл бұрын
I also love the Fact that Luffy needed so much help to come closer to Ace at Marineford
@tarikizgua1835
@tarikizgua1835 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, his allies were way stronger than him at this time (jinbe, ivankov, hancock, whitebeard's pirates, whitebeard...)
@maven9504
@maven9504 4 жыл бұрын
People always say that the reason One Piece sells so well is because of the number of chapters it has, but marineford's record shattering sales showed that it's not all about volume
@bing4131
@bing4131 4 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Vance I got the feeling, the same will happen again when One Piece will enter his end phase.
@raouldmono
@raouldmono 4 жыл бұрын
@@bing4131 They are definitely going to try and attempt another boom like this. I would question their sanity if they didn't have One Piece Film: Unlimited Budget Works coming out at the same time as the end of the manga
@troillandford7679
@troillandford7679 4 жыл бұрын
And I say the reason One Piece continues to keep all of its hard earned fans is the awesome OP community, from dedicated artists like revuju, to theorists and anitubers, even fan events like the annual reverie and the unofficial official encyclopedia, Artur from Library of Ohara. The moment this series ends will be the day i stop reading manga, thanks eveyone and thanks Oda!
@sakura5sango6
@sakura5sango6 2 жыл бұрын
Olé! 💃🏼💃🏼
@Ballsackgamin
@Ballsackgamin Жыл бұрын
Without MARINEFORD One piece is nothing
@emmanuelllavore1775
@emmanuelllavore1775 4 жыл бұрын
When Whitebeard and Sengoku fought, only one winner emerged. And that winner is Teach.
@emmanuelllavore1775
@emmanuelllavore1775 4 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Vance If Whitebeard never went to Marineford, and Sengoku didn't try to execute Ace, none of them would have played into Blackbeard's hands. But who was Blackbeard to them? Some upstart traitor with no name. The Marines lost more than they gained from Ace's execution. They lost a Fleet Admiral after Kong's response to the Level 6 Breakout, Garp resigned, Aokiji resigned after Sakazuki won, they lost two of the Shichibukai (Jinbe and Gecko Moria), and they lost the balance they worked hard to maintain. Now instead of having to deal with Whitebeard, who was easier to deal with, they have to deal with Blackbeard, who is more ambitious and more violent compared to the old captain.
@mostacho8251
@mostacho8251 4 жыл бұрын
ZEEHAHAHAHAHAHHA
@troillandford7679
@troillandford7679 4 жыл бұрын
any historians out there who know of real world events where a 3rd party ended up being better off than the main opposing forces?
@emmanuelllavore1775
@emmanuelllavore1775 4 жыл бұрын
@@troillandford7679 The Cold War - between America and Soviet Russia. China entered the world stage shortly after, the new flag bearer for Communism. In fact, they were involved in the Korean War, they were backing the Northerners. In the process, they hurt the Americans' reputation by smearing them with propaganda with videos starring captive American soldiers. And Soviet Russia, being unable to support themselves because of trade embargoes, dissolved. And now, the second greatest power in the world is China.
@thirdplanet4471
@thirdplanet4471 4 жыл бұрын
I really love how the consequences that marine Ford has on the one piece world can be felt to this day. The world government had to change and adapt, the black beard pirates were formed and are growing in power, the white beard pirates have been weakened and their territories have been taken over or have to seek protection from someone else etc
@RandomGuyyyy
@RandomGuyyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and our current perception of the Wano arc is heavily influenced by that arc
@NaturalHypertrophy
@NaturalHypertrophy 4 жыл бұрын
I need to go grab myself a brownie, can't enter this video in a hypoglycemic state
@takashi.mizuiro
@takashi.mizuiro 4 жыл бұрын
Natural Hypertrophy I needed a big donut for this epic video
@bartiz12
@bartiz12 4 жыл бұрын
How about some red glazed donuts?
@niceaudiokevin3921
@niceaudiokevin3921 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@tercial
@tercial 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite desert are brownies too or Mochi
@Dkmo94
@Dkmo94 4 жыл бұрын
I need one too I can't enter this video in a sober state
@BRoHoNSaMa
@BRoHoNSaMa 2 жыл бұрын
9:15 Blackbeard did drop in on Amazon Lilly and it’s insane lol
@CoperGaban
@CoperGaban Жыл бұрын
oh my gosh, Morj actually made an accurate theory
@SkyFlame27
@SkyFlame27 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget, I think the personal weight of this war, Ace’s life, also played some roll. Ace was a favorite character, brother to the main character, someone we only so far got a small glimpse of. I don’t really know about anybody else but In the back of my mind, Luffy was going to save Ace. The more the story progressed though, the more unsure if this fact I was. The moment Luffy does save though is such an amazing and memorable moment and made me feel just so much joy. For sure this whole arc was building towards this and everyone is going to safely retreat and the war would be considered a win for the pirates. THEN, Ace turns back, he saves Luffy, he dies. This whole arc, everything Luffy did to save Ace, every sacrifice made to save Ace and Ace is gone. Died in Luffy’s arms. The whole build up from the moment Ace is captured to the War, it all came crashing down on me as a reader. It was crazy. I was destroyed. For me the pain was not over, when we get Luffy and Ace’s backstory afterwards, it really does kill me a little inside. I feel like if it was a different writer, they would have put Ace’s backstory sometime before the the war, before his death, to make us love him more and see how much he means to Luffy. But no, he puts the backstory after Ace’s death with us knowing he’s gone now. Okay I’m sad and depressed now. Sorry this was so long if you made it to the end.
@anthonyzivalich4962
@anthonyzivalich4962 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Odas a brilliant bastard to tug at our emotions seeing Ace as a kid knowing he’s going to die, it was truly heartbreaking.
@torcherdeath
@torcherdeath 4 жыл бұрын
Also the end of bloodline of the pirate king
@emperorofinception3571
@emperorofinception3571 4 жыл бұрын
That was a heartbreaking outcome for a number of reasons. Oda did that quite well.
@fawwazfarid5458
@fawwazfarid5458 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyzivalich4962 And seeing Ace's existential crisis come into full flow, he was questioning himself on whether he deserved to even live because of the sins of his father.
@RandomGuyyyy
@RandomGuyyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Oda made a great decision to not include Ace's backstory before Marineford. I had pretty much 0 reason to believe he will die and if Oda showed his backstory to make us sympathise with him more, I might have been sadder when Ace died but less shocked. But by delaying the backstory and playing with the readers expectations, he made the experience much better. When Luffy uncuffed Ace, there was not a single part of me that even considered the fact that Ace would die. But then, it suddenly happened and I was absolutely baffled to the core. It was so surprising that even after I saw Akainu burning a huge hole through Ace, I refused to believe he would die but alas in the next chapter he died, and Luffy, the character filled to the brim with hope and never ending belief in himself, broke. Then when I saw Luffy in Amazon Lily, for the first time in more than 500 chapters, doubting himself by saying he can't become the pirate king, the emotions started coming up as I remembered the very same Luffy in the past, several times boldly state that he is the man who will become pirate king without a shimmer of a doubt. Then I saw Ace's backstory ending with Sabo's death and Ace saying he won't die. That was the emotional pay off for me.
@NaturalHypertrophy
@NaturalHypertrophy 4 жыл бұрын
*Sun Tzu has entered the chat*
@valentino.m.g
@valentino.m.g 4 жыл бұрын
Nice reference lol
@heroricspiritfreinen38
@heroricspiritfreinen38 4 жыл бұрын
Morj is sun tzu
@suntzu444
@suntzu444 4 жыл бұрын
''Laughs in art of war'' -Sun Tzu
@suntzu444
@suntzu444 4 жыл бұрын
@Just Another Broke Communist ''no'' -Sun Tzu
@sriraagav9177
@sriraagav9177 4 жыл бұрын
This arc actually made lot of things clear for me. I was confused about how Powerfull Navy , Yonkos and 7WLs were. It kind of established a power system for me. It was like Saving Rukya arc of bleach .
@sriraagav9177
@sriraagav9177 4 жыл бұрын
@Lionard Kirsch Yup that one. I love that arc so much lol
@EayuProuxm
@EayuProuxm 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things about this arc is how stressed out Sengoku was in the lead up to the war. Usually, for an authority figure, a fight is portrayed as a break from their vital but tedious everyday job stress. For eg. Naruto, once he becomes Hokage, the daily acts of the job are his stress, and fights are a welcome break from that. But for Sengoku, this coming war itself is the stress! From Blackbeard being found at Impel Down to losing contact with his ships that are tracing Whitebeard, everything about it was just stressful for him. Props to Oda for doing that.
@rebelz926
@rebelz926 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Kaido was at Marineford, that would have been insane.
@sriraagav9177
@sriraagav9177 4 жыл бұрын
We should blame Shanks for stopping him xD
@sriraagav9177
@sriraagav9177 4 жыл бұрын
@Just Another Broke Communist I think he would have taken on Blackbeard if there was No navy . He acted all cool and chill to stop the war 😂 , but it would have been hard for him to take on all of them at once.
@guifire9747
@guifire9747 4 жыл бұрын
Marineford wouldn't exist anymore ^^ at the opposite of Whitebeard, he wouldn't have any reason not to sink the whole island
@AB-et6nj
@AB-et6nj 4 жыл бұрын
Just imagine how insane the war is going to be after Luffy finds the One Piece.
@goodhello8553
@goodhello8553 4 жыл бұрын
or big mum? or dragon? or cp0? or rayleigh?
@beanburrito4405
@beanburrito4405 4 жыл бұрын
If Oda is the One Piece god, then Mr Morj is the One Piece apostle
@heroricspiritfreinen38
@heroricspiritfreinen38 4 жыл бұрын
Oda is morj tho?
@joaoazevedo7738
@joaoazevedo7738 4 жыл бұрын
@@heroricspiritfreinen38 fax
@doraeguyakaneddie6586
@doraeguyakaneddie6586 3 жыл бұрын
I just had a wild idea. What if Oda is waiting for Luffy on Raftal. Nobody would expect that
@th-bt6fn
@th-bt6fn 3 жыл бұрын
@@doraeguyakaneddie6586 Oda is Roger
@bozodluffy1818
@bozodluffy1818 3 жыл бұрын
You’re all fools, Oda is Buggy CLEARLY
@yudhajitmukherjee1440
@yudhajitmukherjee1440 4 жыл бұрын
dude you just made me feel hyped for something i already know. what trickery is this!!?!?!
@frostyphoenix1278
@frostyphoenix1278 4 жыл бұрын
Calm down sir, this is just an aftershock of the hype trauma inflicted by Oda to remind you that he is the best world-building mangaka. We will get through this together.
@yudhajitmukherjee1440
@yudhajitmukherjee1440 4 жыл бұрын
@@frostyphoenix1278 we sure will frosty-chan
@RodriXav1
@RodriXav1 3 жыл бұрын
@@frostyphoenix1278 you made your KZbin channel 9 years ago are you a one piece veteran 😳
@Kujakuseki01
@Kujakuseki01 4 жыл бұрын
I was reading week-to-week when Marineford was being published and man...the excitement was off the charts with every early chapter. The Ace is Roger's son reveal, the reveal of Akainu's power, the reveal of Whitebeard's power and overwhelming strength...it was all so amazing.
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that I'd have liked is the death toll at the end. How many pirates perished? How many marines? How many did Whitebeard led to their graves alongside him? Plus, more minor deaths, one or two vice admirals would've been great. PS: Oars Jr. is dead to me until proven otherwise.
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 4 жыл бұрын
@Ridwon Ahmad probably not in the great scheme of things, but it would've been cool nonetheless to know how many did Whitebeard killed all by his own and how many men the marines lost as a result of a war against, as you said, a single yonkou. And yeah, the admirals are fine, I'm talking about vice-admirals and other ranks.
@scandalfop2093
@scandalfop2093 4 жыл бұрын
@Ridwon Ahmad The world gvt. isn't that much stronger than an Emperor. If 2 of them ever got together and agreed on a way to split the world into 2, the gvt. wouldn't stand a chance. Of course, there is the 'new weapons that will make the Warlords useless' but we don't know how effective those would be against the true powerhouses of the world. I mean, I doubt anything man made could do any sort of damage whatsoever to Big Mom, Kaido or even Shanks, hell even Luffy is probably past that point by now, soo... You gotta remember, an Emperor isn't going to go to war just by himself. He'll have allies, subordinates, even entire kingdoms backing him up. One of the reason Whitebeard lost so badly was that he couldn't and probably wouldn't bring all of his allies to help him. Can you imagine how many islands/kingdoms he had under his flag-protection. Probably dozens. If even a few of them had a few powerful characters each and thousands strong armies, you can only imagine how much destruction he could cause if he was the one who planned the war and not his enemies. Also, he couldn't even use the full might of his devil fruits because he would just end up killing his own men. A devil fruit that can destroy the world only created like 2 big waves the entire war. Meh...
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 4 жыл бұрын
@@scandalfop2093 the last point regarding Whitebeard is often overlooked. He was severely handicapped (alongside his health problems) and everytime he had to use it his own allies had to stop fighting and stay away from him. Yes, Kaido, Big Mom and Shanks are undoubtly powerful but I've yet to see them fighting and pushing after taking all that damage while being that old and sick.
@marshalsoult3860
@marshalsoult3860 2 жыл бұрын
@@scandalfop2093 you kidding? the world governemnt is a powerhouse that hold the world for 800 years
@moonman1830
@moonman1830 Жыл бұрын
9:14 casual Morj foresight moment
@gaama6050
@gaama6050 Жыл бұрын
9:15 Morj got that next level observation Haki I see.
@josephs.4813
@josephs.4813 10 ай бұрын
9:14 Morj casually predicting the future
@Naruke0Nick
@Naruke0Nick 2 жыл бұрын
9:15.... Can Morj see the future 👀
@GSlice37
@GSlice37 4 жыл бұрын
Can remember reading Marineford week to week years back and I have to say you last point was spot on. Luffy is known for always being able to get back up, bounce back and do the job he set out to do. The lead up to Marineford was showing that it was getting progressively harder to do that, so when Ace finally dies we see, that Luffy's story is different from what we thought. He was out of his depth, he lost utterly & completely and this was the first time he had to face that. (P.s Zoro had a similar revelation upon being struck down by Mihawk) Because he just couldn't do it.
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 4 жыл бұрын
I once read someone saying that, unlike other protagonists, Luffy really lost faith in himself and that what made post-marineford so heartbreaking was to see this usually goofy, optimistic and joyful character completely broken by grief and self-contempt. Yes, Naruto went through his own process when Jiraiya died but Luffy had it harder imo, starting for the fact that he saw it all.
@GSlice37
@GSlice37 4 жыл бұрын
@@scribalma_h totally get what you mean, I mean Naruto if anything had a lack of faith in himself and was a real underdog. First episode he's king of Ls Whereas luffy has always shown to be taking Ws left right and centre, Luffy while he does have the will power is also extremely lucky.
@emperorofinception3571
@emperorofinception3571 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. I daresay the comments here are one of the few times I have seen a civil comparison between the two anime. I like both of them so this is a pleasant surprise.
@sakura5sango6
@sakura5sango6 2 жыл бұрын
I hate and love at the same time how he basically became that little kid that was lonely and lost without his old brothers in the entire arc... It pained me so much. But it also made me love him *even more* ... The pain, the empathy for him, the wish to help him and the BEAUTIFUL bond of his crew when they were all determined to help him once more, as if they were us, the readers, as if they /knew/ as much as we did.... OMGOSH, definitely best moment for me after that whole awesome arc... couldn't ask for more.
@mlgmelon
@mlgmelon Жыл бұрын
9:14 Morj does it again. Another spot on manga prediction
@henrypeters5291
@henrypeters5291 Жыл бұрын
In fairness, he said "that would be insane"
@Private.Portal
@Private.Portal Жыл бұрын
@@henrypeters5291 And yet, it was.
@fernandodominguez4470
@fernandodominguez4470 4 жыл бұрын
The real art, is this video.
@tobiasurey1434
@tobiasurey1434 4 жыл бұрын
There is no vid without Oda and Team. So no
@matis7318
@matis7318 4 жыл бұрын
@@tobiasurey1434 ?
@ceedo9703
@ceedo9703 4 жыл бұрын
This is an absolute amazing video 👏👏👏👍👍😍
@calvinnguyen1870
@calvinnguyen1870 4 жыл бұрын
This. This was the real “most ambitious crossover”
@nikoforsyth514
@nikoforsyth514 4 жыл бұрын
Not exactly a crossover
@Falkuzrules
@Falkuzrules 4 жыл бұрын
Get ready for the most ambitious crossover of the decade! One Piece x One Piece!
@jojosoni6355
@jojosoni6355 4 жыл бұрын
More like a collab arc
@heroricspiritfreinen38
@heroricspiritfreinen38 4 жыл бұрын
@@Falkuzrules one piece fans have an IQ of 5 lmao
@dinkelberchs3697
@dinkelberchs3697 3 жыл бұрын
I literally cannot wrap my head around the fact that Oda went there on accident and then nailed it so hard that One Piece just completely rushed past all these other Mangas. Something like Marineford must be the absolute hardest thing to get right as a storyteller. What a legend.
@maximilianbur2560
@maximilianbur2560 4 жыл бұрын
When oda watched morj analysis: thank god someone gets it When oda watches morj theory: *heavy sweating*
@amayyaduvanshi2706
@amayyaduvanshi2706 3 жыл бұрын
ODA be like: Oh no my surprise is f*cked
@ankitabarman9482
@ankitabarman9482 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if Oda watches all these analysis videos and thinks to himself that I didn't even actually think this way 😂 just like how the prisoners used to think about Buggy
@shaybuchbut9684
@shaybuchbut9684 4 жыл бұрын
"Just having many strong characters fight each other and hope it'll be good, but it's actually boring and awkward" - *Fourth Shinobi War noises*
@zenox2924
@zenox2924 3 жыл бұрын
why ? it was such a great arc , imo it was better than marineford
@shaybuchbut9684
@shaybuchbut9684 3 жыл бұрын
@@zenox2924 Oh well...
@itachi93674
@itachi93674 3 жыл бұрын
@@zenox2924 Lol no
@TD-EXPLANATIONS
@TD-EXPLANATIONS 3 жыл бұрын
@@zenox2924 you are joking right Marineford war is only 28 eps tho made 4th ninja war 100+ eps look cute.
@uncleiroh4650
@uncleiroh4650 4 жыл бұрын
Fans: The perfect One Piece analysis doesnt exist Morj:
@rouelandrewpulma9799
@rouelandrewpulma9799 4 жыл бұрын
Morj: "Hold my beer"
@animaniax2479
@animaniax2479 4 жыл бұрын
Remember Luffy jumping in front of ALL 3 ADMIRALS. That scene alone was enough to make this arc legendary.
@chinuaalibatya7345
@chinuaalibatya7345 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think you'll analyze Water 7/Enies Lobby? I've heard you tease certain themes about it for a while now. Like what it means to be a Captain etc.
@MrMorj
@MrMorj 4 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely! Probably not for a few months though at least, there are other topics ahead of it
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMorj It would be interesting to hear your take on the power-ups of that arc as well, I've seen and heard various new readers say that it was forced or an "ass-pulled" and that the straw hats shouldn't have escaped from the Buster Call.
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 4 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Dziminowicz Yes, some seem to be driven by a kind of need to dump on something that is popular just so they can get to say: "this shit is overrated, I don't get the hype". I don't even bother to argue at this point.
@zeus7558
@zeus7558 3 жыл бұрын
oohhh he just uploaded the enies lobby analysis
@AlexanderTtl
@AlexanderTtl 3 жыл бұрын
@@zeus7558 right 🤣
@itslogic9583
@itslogic9583 4 жыл бұрын
I trust Oda with one piece more than I trust my family
@mel-bp1kp
@mel-bp1kp 4 жыл бұрын
Yo I was watching the anime yesterday just to go back I still cried lol especially when Lufy asked Jimbe if Ace is really dead and that it's not a dream, that part was Amazing coz that's how I felt when my childhood friend died I could relate to it that's the best thing I ever seen in Shonen ever .
@LarsCaesar
@LarsCaesar 4 жыл бұрын
When i first started reading one piece i thought of it as a bunch of smaller stories. But since marineford everythinng connected in one piece heh
@braveboy1million908
@braveboy1million908 4 жыл бұрын
You probably look like your profile pic.
@LarsCaesar
@LarsCaesar 4 жыл бұрын
Brave boy 1million kind of
@NKMitch42
@NKMitch42 4 жыл бұрын
Just recently finishing up Alabasta again, I would argue that Crocodile is the first hints that Luffy was going to eventually be very outside his depth. His defeat of Crocoboy is framed as a triumphant fluke. Then Luffy is Enel's weakness. Lucci is a pure brawl that pushes Luffy in much the same way as Arlong but at the next level. Moria takes the whole team, the second hint at Luffy actually being a small fry. Then the events of SA through Marineford.
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 4 жыл бұрын
Some argue that Crocodile was put too early in the story, and while I tend to agree with it, Morj makes me think that it was also in Oda's plans in the long run. Crocodile pretty much killed Luffy twice and only lost because of his massive ego and arrogance. Same with Enel + Luffy being his natural counter
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 4 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Vance true. One thing that the Blackbeard vs Ace fight showed us (and not for the first time) is how confident a logia user can get after years of not having to experience how does it feel to take serious damage with a normal body, and guys like Crocodile and Enel suffered from the same mistake. I like how Whitebeard, although he wasn't a logia, gave 0 fucks when Blackbeard cancelled his fruit and immediately owned him with his bisento.
@michaelmonroe2148
@michaelmonroe2148 Жыл бұрын
9:13 Morj have that insane observation haki.
@BobtheX
@BobtheX 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis. Hype is the perfect word for it. One Piece's greatest strength has been it's commitment to long term storytelling and Marineford was decades of set up finally paying off. All while the story tells you that this grandest moment is only the half way point. Hype.
@zackarialundy
@zackarialundy 2 жыл бұрын
@mr Morj 9:15 LOL FUTURE SIGHT
@jerrberrrr
@jerrberrrr 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the time you take for theses analysis. It’s exactly the type of detail a story of this magnitude deserves 👌🏾
@dantecrottogini529
@dantecrottogini529 4 жыл бұрын
This is also why Wano and future stories are so exciting. It's so cool to finally see Luffy fight the heavy weights of the verse
@jamesthemax2926
@jamesthemax2926 Жыл бұрын
9:16 excuse me!? Future sight unlocked?
@kartal6248
@kartal6248 4 жыл бұрын
About 2 months ago i decided to read One Piece and as always I had been binge reading it for weeks, then came the end of Sabaody and I really felt that intensity and hype all around MF arc. I was reading at the time 20 chapters at most in one day but when I began reading Impel Down i couldn't stop i just wanted to see and know more and more about what was about to happen and this is what really makes this arc beautiful in my opinion. When I was done (chapter 580) it was 5:30 am in the morning. And i found that i almost read 100 chapter that day! Damn. My first thought was "This, is how you write a war. You should have learnt Kishimoto!"
@nepton3921
@nepton3921 4 жыл бұрын
Just imagine wano ark animation for the whole series
@lKeikun
@lKeikun 4 жыл бұрын
I wish the OP anime would get the HxH(2011) remake treatment somewhere in the future for generations to come.
@zakturf
@zakturf 4 жыл бұрын
you mean 70% bland, 30% really good?
@Rob-hm4jx
@Rob-hm4jx 4 жыл бұрын
@@zakturf oof, but u gotta admit, it's much higher quality, even if the story is adapted slightly wrong like with luffy vs kaido
@zakturf
@zakturf 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rob-hm4jx For sure, those scenes are over the top! What i'm getting at is that the other pieces are just lackluster. You really see where they budget went and where it got taken away.
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 4 жыл бұрын
@@lKeikun same, I also think that they could re-tell this arc a la Episode of Marineford or something like that.
@2021kitty
@2021kitty 4 жыл бұрын
This video just reminded how hype I was for Marineford, can't wait for more!
@beatrizortega1712
@beatrizortega1712 4 жыл бұрын
Marineford was a defining moment of my life, and I still feel that I have so much to think about it yet. It's where you find out that determination, alone, does not mean strength. And we see consequences for the actions of everybody - the admirals, white beard, black beard, ace, luffy, jimbe, law, shanks. It's about turning the world upside down, the characters personal world and the whole one.
@KaimanBitAi
@KaimanBitAi 4 жыл бұрын
What I love most about Marineford are Ace’s last words and Whitebeard telling to the whole world that the One Piece does exist 😭😭. Edit: Sabaody Archipelago is where Luffy realized he’s not strong enough to protect his crew, hence be a true leader in his eyes, along with the whole crew feeling useless to their captain. So, many reasons why I love Sabaody, but the decision each individual takes after the split is just amazing, all for their captain who they know can be clumsy and goofy, but yet strong and reliable as a pirate. The man who once saved them and now the man they chose to follow as the future Pirate King.
@scribalma_h
@scribalma_h 4 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine, new to the story, was complaining about the "lack of consequences" to the Straw Hats after everything they had done before Sabaody and in retrospective, with this video, I'm sure that that was Oda's intent, to make us think that Luffy would somehow win and get away with his actions again just because he's the protagonist. Starting with Sabaody (not counting Amazon Lily), Luffy took nothing but L's and/or had to run most of the time, from Kizaru and Kuma till in the war itself.
@bruhbruh4635
@bruhbruh4635 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhmm it starts when they encounter Aokiji on Long Ring Island.
@bntagkas
@bntagkas 3 жыл бұрын
what good story telling is all about, is learning. the reason enies lobby and marineford are so insanely good is we got to learn firsthand, what the potential of the world of one piece is like, in enies lobby luffy had to evolve physically to stand a chance to beat the world as we saw it then, and in marineford we just saw how far ahead the world was still, how many secrets and powerful characters there are still that luffy cant even begin to beat yet, and the journey on is the strawhats discovering those secrets and evolving again to beat the insane challenges, and we as readers are learning all that, we are really addicted at learning more about the world of one piece, thats all that matters and the reason why one piece is so successful if learning at school was half as good and entertaining as learning in one piece is, we would all be astronauts wouldnt we but i think slowly we are going to get there, already theres research in gamification of learning
@RealMusicOnly888
@RealMusicOnly888 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing,when I seen the Marineford Arc. I was like "Damn, this is just the beginning😮"
@rand0mGT
@rand0mGT 3 жыл бұрын
“If you too possess the will of D, then show me what lies beyond this age “
@redx589
@redx589 4 жыл бұрын
@17:56 I really liked this part of the video. I've been theorizing that Luffy's Awakening will involve Luffy becoming an actual Giant to defeat Kaidou because as I say in my analysis: Luffy is the Thematic Giant of the Story. You've just validated my thoughts here. lol.
@DyNomi7e
@DyNomi7e 4 жыл бұрын
I knew you would be here lol i thought the same thing
@centurymemes1208
@centurymemes1208 2 жыл бұрын
nope
@redx589
@redx589 2 жыл бұрын
@@centurymemes1208 I was correct though. lol.
@slackerZ1
@slackerZ1 4 жыл бұрын
I remember I read up to thriller bark and some of sabaody and took a long break picking back up in at the start of dressrosa. I had a friend fill me in and he quickly went into marineford. I couldn't believe something so huge could have actually happened. Ace is my favorite character and I'll never get over him being gone 💔🔥
@fari67
@fari67 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime I see pages or clips from this arc I cant help but shed some tears. Hits me In the feels everytime
@m.merajahmed1210
@m.merajahmed1210 4 жыл бұрын
I've been going through all of your videos in the last week and I have decided to stick to your channel for any One Piece related content on YT. I don't dislike the others but I only have so much time and your videos are definitely worth it. The level of insight and structure in your arguments and examples are unparalleled. I'd rather listen to you break down the deeper meanings and themes of OP and analyzing the hell out of it rather than listening to people simply telling me what happened and their biased views of what they expect to happen. I didn't think it was possible to appreciate the beauty of One Piece More than I already did, but you made it happen man. you deserve at least 10 times the subscribers you have. At least.
@Mongolenfreak
@Mongolenfreak Жыл бұрын
Another big factor of why this arc was so hype was that the strawhats just got totally annihilated before it started, and we all came with the expectation that Luffy will show off his strength and somehow against all odds will somehow achieve his goal to keep the story going, because it was build up in a way that failure means death, but then it wasn't it went on because Luffy didn't succeed. It played with our expectations. ACE, Luffys brother, son of Gol D. Rodger, son of whitebeard and his first commander, hyped up being equally strong if not stronger than smoker, one of the very few up to only a few chapters beforehand totally overpowered logia type devil fruit users was captured, but a whole army was there to rescue him, plus Luffy with plot armor, even if whitebeard dies Ace would survive, and if ace died whitebeard would surly destroy all of marinefort right? NO! Oda played us, he, for the first time showcased the death of a character, and not only one but two. It opened everything up, everything was new, everything is possible now, this story going on for years, and this one, pretty short arc changed everything One piece lives of its world, it lives because everything is possible, we learn stuff for years, began to understand how the world runs, and then everything changes. All the foreshadowing and everything set so far let us belive we missed something, and probaply we did.
@Steve-vp6mm
@Steve-vp6mm 4 жыл бұрын
I know its not in the same realm as the discussion here, but for more of a "chess game" of war strategy the manga Kingdom is AMAZING
@PhantomGreyfire
@PhantomGreyfire 2 жыл бұрын
00:00:00 ⟾ Intro - Marineford: Hype, sales growth, building stakes 00:02:28 ⟾ ONE AT A TIME - tactics, individual build-up, majors 00:03:46 ⟾ Major Players: 3 factors, Mihawk, Kuzan, Blackbeard, Doflamingo, Borsalino, Kuma, Ace, Garp 00:04:40 ⟾ Major Players: Warlords; Doflamingo, Kuma, Mihawk, Blackbeard, Jinbei 00:07:55 ⟾ Epic Proportions: 3 Admirals, ultimate payoff 00:09:47 ⟾ THE LEADUP - build-up phase, across world, Marines, countdown, individual moves, broadcast, cinematic set-up 00:12:07 ⟾ Whitebeard: Emperors significance, major opposition alliance, scale of conflict 00:14:21 ⟾ LUFFY’S EXPERIENCE - Luffy as biggest fish pre time-skip, completely out of depth, overwhelming 00:18:11 ⟾ Summary: 500 Chapters of Set-up, Scale of Conflict, future direction 00:19:43 ⟾ Summary: individual major players, tension, atmosphere, Luffy’s journey 00:20:20 ⟾ [Promo] [Credits]
@sophiekarp1556
@sophiekarp1556 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just say, that Buggy made me love the arc immensely
@GodComplex98
@GodComplex98 4 жыл бұрын
Even after catching every new video on this channel for as long as I have, the sheer quality of your analysis still surprises me every time
@TheMisterSaxy
@TheMisterSaxy 4 жыл бұрын
This arc in one word: AAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUU
@areeshaj2585
@areeshaj2585 4 жыл бұрын
This video is work of art. MF is my favorite arc and this video was perfect and brilliant for me. You are the best OP reviews channel in YT imo Keep doing this stuff 👌
@dantecrottogini529
@dantecrottogini529 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that pretty much the entire war saga was just 100 chapters. Oda put so much in 10 volumes
@prabinlamsal5125
@prabinlamsal5125 4 жыл бұрын
This was one of my shortest 20 minutes ever.
@EXEveryNote
@EXEveryNote 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Morj does it again with another amazing analysis video.
@spacecoyote6101
@spacecoyote6101 4 жыл бұрын
This video got me unbelievably hyped. Thanks Morj for consistently articulating what I’ve felt while reading this masterpiece of a series. However, I’m surprised you didn’t really go in depth about Ace’s death. I think the death of Ace (and to a lesser extent, Whitebeard) played a huge role into the way the arc impacted the reader. It must’ve been intentional that the most grandiose conflict in the series lead to the first confirmed death in the series outside of a flashback. While Oda has generally been extremely good at raising the stakes and increasing tension within a story arc, this is the first time that death has been a factor, and this instance I think really cemented Luffy’s place in the world this arc, more than any other event during the war could’ve.
@bajiraosingham9495
@bajiraosingham9495 4 жыл бұрын
4:49 If Seven Warlords were just a passing thought and I've heard that Oda came up with Supernovas in a similar way, it's amazing how flawlessly he was able to add them to the existing StrawHats vs Yonkou story in his mind. He truly is GOda.
@CloudyDaze
@CloudyDaze 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos of yours. These analysis videos breaking down thematic elements and storytelling. This is what you do best and it’s a great thing to watch
@coreyscott7296
@coreyscott7296 2 жыл бұрын
This might be my favorite one of your videos 👌🏾
@FullOnMetalHead1995
@FullOnMetalHead1995 4 жыл бұрын
Your one piece analysis is profound. Just found your channel. Looking forward to watching more of your videos
@heavenlyweather117
@heavenlyweather117 4 жыл бұрын
People dont want to hear this but when wano is over is gonna be better than mf, wano is a solid arc AND THE WAR HASNT EVEN STARTED, this upcoming war will have more big names and more historic events, think about this..marineford was so hype and it only had 1 yonko crew(not counting red hair pirates for prety clear reasons) ,now we gonna have at least 2 yonko crews ALL THE STRAWHATS the marines and maybe the revs, plus luffy will have a much bigger impact in this war
@lemonringo566
@lemonringo566 4 жыл бұрын
It should be. Wano's arc has been built up since Thriller Bark.
@vaibhav8593
@vaibhav8593 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda agree with you but I kinda don't. It all depends upon how Oda handles the next 50 or so chapters that will decide whether Wano will be the greatest One Piece arc or just a huge disappointment!
@juanmarodriguez6010
@juanmarodriguez6010 4 жыл бұрын
The marines and revs?
@waluigi3515
@waluigi3515 4 жыл бұрын
@@vaibhav8593 really doubt Oda won't deliver. Remember, people were saying the same thing. ack when Marineford was in the works, well at the very least the one piece fans I know said that. They were doubtful that it was really even gonna happen, but it did and it was mindblowing. Even watching the anime it was hype. I think Oda is gonna deliver, he is handling everything all extremely well from Fishman island to Wano, and the set up is good too. I am fully convinced after seeing all of his work that Goda will deliver
@tomspray5961
@tomspray5961 4 жыл бұрын
Cp0 there scheming too
@hmm600
@hmm600 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos made me see One Piece in a completely different sense. I have always LOVED OP but I don’t think I ever truly respected it’s characters, story writing etc. BUT now, as I’m exploring more animes... I realise how bleak all of them were in front of OP in over aspect or the other and your videos were a great catalyst for that
@gravito1573
@gravito1573 4 жыл бұрын
The video cannot be more clear, thank you Mr Morj !
@humbertonavarro7070
@humbertonavarro7070 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Morj, your analysis are always incredible!
@sb_unlimited2211
@sb_unlimited2211 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, you basically explained how great the arc is in this vid 👍
@dissocialdolphin8518
@dissocialdolphin8518 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny how every video you upload ends up with a lot more views than the actual subs of your channel while for most KZbinrs it's the inverse situation. That shows how great you and your content are and the impact you're having on this community, though more people should subscribe
@ATKL2k12
@ATKL2k12 4 жыл бұрын
Marineford > Ennies Lobby in my opinion
@binkssake7282
@binkssake7282 4 жыл бұрын
Sabaody > Everything
@ATKL2k12
@ATKL2k12 4 жыл бұрын
Binks' Sake Fair. Sabody is Top 5 at least
@gremnytheloser07
@gremnytheloser07 4 жыл бұрын
Buggy arc >>>>>>>>> every arcs
@TheWorldThatYouWishFor
@TheWorldThatYouWishFor 4 жыл бұрын
Yup Marineford is my favourite too
@saitab-6435
@saitab-6435 4 жыл бұрын
@@binkssake7282 I agree inarguably
@GrandGurple
@GrandGurple Жыл бұрын
Marineford is most truly an epic, very similar to the Iliad one of the greatest war stories, it tells of a clash of the greats, constantly dropping names and showing incredible battles, both ending with the death of a great warrior, Hector and Whitebeard. There is much more the two have in similar but as a person who enjoys both it's interesting.
@johnmagalinao2255
@johnmagalinao2255 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, that fresh new setup is lit Mr. Morj. On a related note. The crescendo of emotion as the chapter progressed made me want to stand there and fight along with the scabbards. 5/5 would say I'd fight even if it costs me my life
@passaroquetzalcoatlus6205
@passaroquetzalcoatlus6205 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I really love your channel
@tipperdipper1149
@tipperdipper1149 3 жыл бұрын
"He didn't even get serious until Arlong" Don't gloss over Don Krieg man, he legit pushed Luffy to his LIMIT. Arlong didn't push him that far, only Krieg did, before they hit the Grand Line. Though you could also argue that Kuro pushed him as far if not further than Arlong considering all the cuts and bleeding. He doesn't SHOW a lot of his pain when he's serious so it really might just be me reading into it, but Krieg 100% pushed him harder than Arlong.
@sultainious
@sultainious 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an awesome analysis of an awesome war! It really puts into perspective the vast depth of Oda's story and insane hype gradually built up, all for a massive impact on the story, characters, and us, until now. Title's spot on :))
@ldonald3211
@ldonald3211 4 жыл бұрын
You found your new gig! This breakdown had me enthralled and my ears perked while simultaneously playing FF14. I see you being the next Mother's Basement or Super Eyepatch Wolf. Great video and analysis. I can't wait to hear your view on other arcs and series.
@heyarnold7256
@heyarnold7256 4 жыл бұрын
He's way better than Mother's Basement already. lol.
@Oblivionknight
@Oblivionknight 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing analysis as usual. You did a great job putting Marineford into perspective for people who were reading it at the time.
@moodmaker2796
@moodmaker2796 4 жыл бұрын
love your content. your clear sight on things relating one piece is baffeling
@flori111er2
@flori111er2 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the Teasing from Shanks Vs Blackbeard Futures fight
@kinggab8905
@kinggab8905 4 жыл бұрын
I for one was also hooked up to One Piece due to the Marineford Arc. One piece used to be an old anime for which I would only watch on the television whenever available and for years I really never watched it..until my brother made me watch the Marineford arc that’s when I became amazef with One piece. I’m currently reading the manga to caught up with the current storyline and I’m currently on Chapter 805 and boy reading all those chapters is totally worthit.
@rafabellini5267
@rafabellini5267 4 жыл бұрын
great video, i just can't get enough of Marineford analyses videos, it's definitely the best War arc of all time at least for me will always be
@jaker721
@jaker721 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always, Morj
@yatindramanas96
@yatindramanas96 4 жыл бұрын
This was an exceptional analysis! I mean we all experienced this, but for it to be put in such well structured way! Really liked it!
@richardstevenson3075
@richardstevenson3075 4 жыл бұрын
So many Morj videos lately. Thank you for the hard work!
@ElZenom
@ElZenom 4 жыл бұрын
Marineford Arc, the Supersmash Bros of Manga.
@redi2408
@redi2408 4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving these morj videos 😁
@AoiKage86
@AoiKage86 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for the Analysis. Very grateful for the time and detail you put into every video, but especially the analysis vids. You always find a way to allow me to appreciate One Piece arcs more.
@davidnobel6361
@davidnobel6361 Жыл бұрын
u actually made a prediction that tech will come to amazon lily @9:17
@dusanpetrovic8689
@dusanpetrovic8689 Жыл бұрын
Bro predicted blackbeard would come to amazon lilly
@rinkusan978
@rinkusan978 4 жыл бұрын
This was soooo good. Amazing job! I kept thinking of showing this to non-OP / anime fans and I have a 0.1% potential nitpick. @ the part where you said there were four (emperors) of Luffy, I felt the weight/significance of that could have been better portrayed, maybe with larger pictures of the four emperors or highlighting them better (like darkening everywhere else perhaps). But that doesn't matter at all to us fans since we already know, but I was thinking a non fan would probably pause and take in the four faces and reflect on what you've said and ponder what sort of impact they have on the story. That's just me though; maybe it will ruin the pacing or style.
@Profitglutton90
@Profitglutton90 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Marinford Arc manga volume sold more than the global sales for the Bible that year.
@flamefrost02
@flamefrost02 4 жыл бұрын
Yo I remember reading the marineford arc in the manga and I was hyped all the way through it and at the end with aces death I shed a few tears and when I watched the anime version I actually cried
@xLotusAngel626x
@xLotusAngel626x 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Keep up the great work my man!!! :D
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