Mario and Luigi Brothership is NOT a 5...

[@AlbertBoris]

I finished the game a few days ago, and honestly, this game deserves a better reputation! It's not perfect (as is no game), but the storyline, characters and replay value are all so good and beautifully handled that it has made its place as one of my new favourite games!

[@DrapionMaster2]

Albert!

[@smallbag123]

Yoooo I watched your Mario games on switch ranking video yesterday, keep it up my dude 🔥🔥🔥

[@leahluostarinen]

Hey AlbertBoris

[@WinterwarOfficial]

Well said Albert

[@DiegoMatos-u6u]

Well done Albert!

[@marcusyates3044]

I think that Brothership is an awesome revival for the Mario & Luigi series. Did I mention that I have ideas for sequels?

[@Wilckey]

Do tell us

[@marcusyates3044]

@@Wilckey If they stopped making Olympic Games stories, they should at least tell us how Mario & Sonic first met

[@Its_A.Secret618]

@@marcusyates3044 I'm not a fan of Sonic so I'm not sure about that. If I would have a crossover, the coolest one would probably be Kirby.

[@marcusyates3044]

@@Its_A.Secret618 Would you be interested if they were voodoo themed antagonists? Just came up with the idea

[@nataliehergerdt6571]

kirby is hard is to make a crossover about bcs of him having a individual world and stuff that seems pretty separated and everything, kirby like has a lock how everything looks and the look is very ... special, what i mean is mario and kirby doesnt fit together that well even tho they have a similar style🤔

[@dannysummers4591]

I feel like the 5/10 is based on the first four hours, which I thought were boring. Once you get to the first big lighthouse, it feels like the older games and the pace really picks up.

[@crypticnik6116]

Honestly once u beat pipe gunk it becomes really peak

[@dannysummers4591]

@@crypticnik6116 agreed

[@razarshadargaming9881]

Well if ur game is 4 hours of nothing but talking and simple task it gets boring for people who are new this franchise and idk bout you but a lot of people can’t do that, I feel like everyone is still bias over this franchise even tho it came back and we loved that it did but advertising and yk promoting this game wasn’t in Nintendo’s favor because I swear I’ve seen none

[@biondigiacomo7176]

​@@razarshadargaming9881i've seen a lot of commercials instead

[@tyg-zw7nn]

It gets terrible again 4th sea onwards. Some of the most egregiously bad RPG design. If you play literally any other RPG you will know how boring, safe these characters are. And Acquire is throwing backtracking and FF6's ruined world at us like it's a new concept, but we only have 2 party members. Oh and they throw enemy recolors at us like it's a brand new concept in the year 2024. It's not a good game. If Square Enix made this game, it'd get torn apart. Too long, no payoff. No backstories. No depth.

[@DodgeThatAttack]

something really weird I find is that people complain about this game and talk like alpha dream just did everything better. like, did y'all actually play dream team? that had the same issues as this game and more, with a much weaker story and it came straight off the back of bowsers inside story. I love dream team but brothership is a step up in nearly every way, so why be so much harsher to this newcomer, comparing it with some of the best established mario RPGS of all time instead of the games most similar to it.

[@paulgilbert5278]

Outside of the music, Brothership might be better than Dream Team…almost

[@DodgeThatAttack]

@@paulgilbert5278 absolutely. dream team has some of my favourite battle music in the entire series. definitely the best part of that game

[@smallbag123]

I love dream team 🗣🗣🗣🗣

[@HeilRay]

nah they still bash dream team.

[@StevenJones851]

Dream Team still good same as this one

[@beastslayer8729]

I have a legitimate question for everyone who dislikes the changes to Luigi. Aside from Superstar Saga, Luigi has simply been the guy that follows behind Mario, jumps with B, and helps Mario during combat and Bros. Moves. You don't really EVER control him in the overworld unless the Bros. have been separated. So, what is the big issue with Luigi moving and acting on his own in this game? Even if it's AI, this game attempts to give Luigi as much initiative as Mario, making it feel like you are actually on an adventure with him. I genuinely don't understand how this is a negative, so I would love to hear everyone's reason for disliking this change.

[@RotisserieDivorcePapers]

I like this change a lot. I think it's really really really cool how Mario and Luigi feel more like equals rather than Mario being the leader and Luigi being the follower

[@Aktedya1-jt7vw]

I don't think it's that big of a deal, but I do miss feeling like you're controlling both bros as a unit. Just felt more involved and novel

[@beastslayer8729]

@@Aktedya1-jt7vw I can understand missing the old ways, but personally I don't understand how much hate this has generated. Some people act as if it's a game defining change that ruins the experience.

[@djdrizzy9139]

You controlled BOTH bros in older games. That's the appeal of Mario AND Luigi. Now it feels like a Mario rpg, with Luigi as a partner.

[@beastslayer8729]

@djdrizzy9139 It never felt like that after superstar saga in my opinion. Luigi pretty much felt like an accessory to Mario in the old games. At least in this one Luigi is a partner instead of a tool Mario uses to traverse the map.

[@linkthapro]

This game is a 10/10 I love everything about this game

[@bunnyhatzuicecream]

Brothership isn't perfect, but I will say it has a amazing charm to it!

[@JGr2000]

I really enjoyed Brothership but I wish there were permanent boss rematches instead of just battling the glohm versions of the lighthouse bosses once then never again

[@carlosbleu7396]

That's a real default of the game to not beat again bosses (even Mario & Luigi 5 proposed us ranks according the time we spent to defeat bosses again).

[@emmanueldasilva44]

I've been playing the game and i love it

[@awesomeocelot7475]

I agree I wish we had way more boss battles.

[@ryanmcmahon7805]

It's really great to have someone appreciate the game for what it is and not what it isn't. That being said come on bro, the plug people are boring af, IGN is completely correct about the story and dialogue in this game.

[@MariokidGamingThe2nd]

I haven't played it yet but IGN's score on the game before I even played it is why I never like their scores on games

[@f145hr3831jr]

IGN has been a joke for years now. Don't expect accurate reviews from them.

[@stick8323]

I dont think Dream team's world is generic at all, it's far more interesting than the other games in the series (haven't played Brothership though) Like,yeah,they have "generic" themes,but the visuals are pretty cool,and there is a twist to them, *A comercial area full of people and a tourist inscription building *A Red dirt Mountain with a lava and ice top, each one side by side *A mystical forest with a forgotten ruins theming *An Old Magic Castle with an unexplored area that the habitants of the Island haven't Reformed *A dessert that has been turned into a Mining Area *And a beach, which yeah,i think it's the most boring area in the game,but still is pretty cute And without mentioning the dream world areas,which yes are based on the real world areas,but the Surrealist artwork,and the expanded mechanics from Bis makes them fun to explore in my opinion By the way,Good video,I think you were far more fair with the game than the IGN review,I can't talk much because I haven't played the game,but the IGN review sounded more like what the guy WANTED the game to be more than he experiencing the actual game

[@Just_Shaun]

I’m so close to finishing the game, and I can’t believe how decisive it is. I really enjoyed the game, but I definitely agree with some of IGNs comments. The plug characters look far too generic to me and lack expression, the islands were awesome but the islets were pretty much all the same. I definitely noticed slowdown in exploration at times, and felt lag spikes during some bros moves (could be a skill issue - Zapperator in particular). The Luigi argument is silly, he was so stiff in previous games, stuck behind Mario, so giving the bros more space while keeping them tethered to each other was fab. The fact that this would be a non-issue if you selected Luigi with B in battles and they removed commanding Luigi in the overworld is enough reason for me to not find it bothersome. The areas where Mario and Luigi are separated are great, and reminded me of partners in time. I just think people are misremembering how Luigi controlled in previous games. The sections with the flowers in floral island and the ball challenges are very similar to the mini games from bowsers inside story. The sections where Luigi acts independently to Mario whether he’s collecting coins or jumped across platforms weren’t in previous titles because he was always glued behind Mario. I was never bothered by Luigi’s ocassional brain blasts because they were never as bad as dream team, where it felt like Luigi would constantly stop us to have to explain how to pull his mustache or interact with the environment. I was critical of Kevin Afghani’s voice performance at the start of the game, because the iconic gibberish sounded off especially for Luigi, but his voice has grown on me. I still think Charles did a better job at giving them character. But I really like the uniqueness Kevin gives the bros. Luigi’s okie, alright, and leave it to me are so cute and charming. Luigi is just living his best life! Bros moves are both nostalgic and unique, the plugs are genius and the battles feel much more fluid than in previous games, with the fancy new art style enhancing the whole experience. I’m so glad Brothership didn’t bring back the arbitrary 2D sections. If I have to rate it out of 10, I’d give it a 8.5 - in terms of ranking I’d say it’s marginally better than dream team, maybe on par with superstar saga to be fair, better than partners in time, but slightly worse than bowsers inside story.

[@Just_Shaun]

Forgot the music lol, I’m decisive on it. It’s no where near as good as the previous titles, but has some stellar tracks. My favourites are the boss theme, and conductor island, the rest are eh, alright.

[@KookieStar]

This game deserves a solid 8.5 because of the lore of each characters and the ending 😭😭😭

[@aveage-brush-player]

look i get it yall were SUPER SUPER HYPED for a new game but god THIS IS SOMHOW SLOWER PACED THEN DREAM TEAM yes the game that has TUTORIALS THAT CANT BE SKIPPED AND HAS HORRIBLE PACE and the game is meant to be long? no it should be long if if IS LONG and not BLOATED its just boring man and for the obnoxious 70 hours i took to finish it’s insane just how bad some of this truly is

[@DrapionMaster2]

I’m so happy nin10doland’s in the likes BrotherShip camp

[@TheYoshiChannel-7]

12:00 WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT “Basic beach” IT’S CALLED PLAQUE BEACH, AND HAS CAVITY TEETH EVERYWHERE AND HAS POKEYS MADE OF TEETH, IN WHAT WORLD IS THAT “Basic” WHEN YOU GO TO THE BEACH DO YOU NORMALLY SEE CAVITY TEETH? HAVE YOU SEEN THAT IN ANY OTHER VIDEO GAME!? I agree with the point you’re trying to make, but that critique does not work for Bowser’s Inside story, but the aesthetics are far from basic.

[@kikigarza9092]

Chill

[@TheYoshiChannel-7]

@@kikigarza9092 I know it’s not that big of a deal but I hate it when KZbinrs say stuff just to back up their point with no truth behind it or a more in depth look into why they feel like that.

[@kikigarza9092]

@@TheYoshiChannel-7 okay

[@AtticusSpiritbyte]

6:17 About that. I've heard many talks about how long it took to get the hammer when it had taken quite a while to get a hammer in 3 of the other 5 M&L games. Looking through the long play videos online for reference it takes the following amount of time for the 6 games. M&L Superstar Saga: 1:32:00 ish After going through the Intro, Starfields then all of HooHoo mountain. M&L Partners in Time: 1:44:00 ish After the intro and time travel plus most of the forest. M&L Bowser's inside story: You lose the hammers but regain them about 35:00 ish which is honestly a more satisfying pace. M&L Dream Team: A whopping 2:10:00 ish! Your comment about Dream Team taking so long is definitely the worst of the 6. M&L Paper Jam: You start with them and never lose or regain them from what I saw. So... 00:00:00? M&L Brothership: Roughly 1:31:00 more or less Tying with the original Superstar Saga after the first few islands. Depending on if dialogue is skipped or personal play time, Superstar, Partners in Time and Brothership come close to the same pacing with the hammer. Honestly, a better pacing criticism should be about how long it takes to get the first Bros. Attack. The other 5 games get theirs pretty early on, often before you even get the hammer. Like, even Bowser's inside story gets the shell bros. attack right before the hammer. Yet in Brothership it takes 2 hours and 44 minutes or so to get the Red and Green shell Bros. Attack in the same long play video. 3 hrs is insane and more egregious than the hammer.

[@MadMax-ii8gq]

Almost done with the game and I have been having a lot of fun with only a few gripes, I’d give it a solid 8/10.

[@jarerarebear1765]

And Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze was not a 6/10, but I didn't see any Nintendo fans rushing to its defense like they have with this game.

[@thesnatcher3616]

Wii u. Also people wanted Metroid. But Donkey Kong fans everywhere clowned on Gamespot.

[@win-nufc]

I haven’t played the game personally but from what I have heard from my friends who have played it if your a big fan of Mario and Luigi games you will find it a really good game while people like me who have never played a Mario and Luigi game before we would think it is really bad. I’m hoping to get the game for Xmas so I will have to see if I enjoy it.

[@CapnAnime]

man, IGN is full of BS, haven't liked their reviews ever since Alien: Isolation.

[@russellcunningham-yk4gr]

Ur hype for this game is what made me pick it up I've never played a mario rpg but I'm having a good time with it so thanks

[@rouxlskarrd7163]

One thing that you guys forget is that in all the mario and luigi games you always fought wiggler as a boss and it was like a little trend for the games where they would make one section where you would fight him and I just thought it was a unique idea which I don't know if you fight him in this game but I think they should have made wiggler as a boss because of the trend that you always fought him it would have been nice not a nitpick just thought they could have had commitment for it.

[@Socioromanticism]

Outstanding video. No, I'm not sold on playing the game. Unfortunately, I don't think I love Mario RPGs. But I love people talking critically but also glowingly about the games they love. I hope it gets another look soon by people and gets a boost in sales.

[@Monobrobe]

Nice to see a video with a positive title among the many videos parroting IGN or saying it’s got problems. Though I’ve seen a few of your videos giving off bad vibes too… there’s already so many of those about Brothership it’s driving me crazy.

[@hadi48930]

Requests: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Toad, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Sonic, Pokémon, Zelda, Kirby, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Wii, Mega Man, Angry Birds & Super Smash Bros. Game Ideas 1. Super Mario Odyssey 2 2. Super Mario Maker 3 3. Super Mario X Wario 3D Land (Remastered of Super Mario 3D Land) 4. New Mario Baseball Game 5. New Super Mario Bros. DS Deluxe 6. New Super Mario Bros. Wii Deluxe (Add Wario and Waluigi in New Super Mario Bros. Wii Deluxe) 7. New Super Mario Bros. 2 Deluxe 8. Mario Kart 9 ft. Sonic the Hedgehog and Kirby 9. Super Mario Spikers (Remastered on Switch) 10. Super Mario Galaxy 2 Remake 11. Hotel Mario Remake (Only Kevin Afghani Voiced Mario and Luigi) 12. Super Paper Mario Remake 13. Paper Mario: Sticker Star Remake 14. Paper Mario: Color Splash Remake 15. Luigi's Mansion (GameCube & 3DS) HD 16. Luigi's Mansion 4 17. Mario & Luigi All Stars (Collection of Nintendo Handhelds, GBA, NDS & 3DS) 18. Super Princess Peach 2 19. Captain Toad 2 20. Yoshi's New Island HD 21. Yoshi's Woolly World Deluxe 22. Wario World 2 23. Wario: Master of Disguise Remake 24. Wario Land: Shake It! Remake 25. Donkey Kong 64 Deluxe 26. Donkey Kong Country Trilogy 27. Sonic Mania 2 ft. Amy Rose 28. Sonic Origins Encore ft. Sonic 3D Blast (SEGA Genesis) & Knuckles' Chaotix (SEGA 32X) 29. Sonic 3D All-Stars (Collection of Sonic 3D Blast (SEGA Saturn), Sonic Adventure DX, Sonic Adventure 2: Battle & Sonic Heroes) 30. Shadow the Hedgehog HD 31. Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) + Sonic Unleashed Remastered (Collection of Original PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 Games) 32. Sonic Storybook Deluxe 33. Sonic Lost World: Ultimate 34. Sonic Boom Trilogy (Rise of Lyric, Shattered Crystal and Fire & Ice) 35. Sonic Maker 36. Sonic Rush Deluxe 37. Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Deluxe (Collection of Two Episodes) 38. Sonic the Hedgehog X Pokémon 39. The New Pokémon Games 40. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Deluxe 41. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask Deluxe 42. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Deluxe 43. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker Deluxe 44. The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds Deluxe 45. The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks Deluxe 46. Kirby Generations with Classic Kirby and Modern Kirby 47. Kirby: Triple Deluxe + Planet Robobot Remake 48. Kirby Origins (Sequel to Kirby's Dream Collection) 49. Kirby's Epic Yarn Deluxe 50. Kirby and the Rainbow Curse Deluxe 51. Animal Crossing: New Leaf Deluxe 52. Splatoon 1 Deluxe 53. Splatoon 4 54. Nintendo Switch Fit (Similar to Wii Fit) 55. Nintendo Switch Party (Similar to Wii Party) 56. Mega Man 12 57. Angry Birds: Slingshot Collection (Sequel to Angry Birds Trilogy) 58. Angry Birds 2 59. Bad Piggies 60. Angry Birds Go! 61. Angry Birds Epic 62. Angry Birds Transformers 63. Angry Birds Reloaded 64. Angry Birds Toons (Similar to Sonic Superstars) 65. The Angry Birds Movie: The Video Game 66. The Angry Birds Movie 2: The Video Game 67. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Mario Tennis (Waluigi) 68. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Miles "Tails" Prower) 69. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Sonic the Hedgehog CD (Amy Rose) 70. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Sonic 3 & Knuckles (Knuckles the Echidna) 71. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Sonic Adventure 2 (Shadow the Hedgehog) 72. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Tears of the Kingdom 73. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Kirby Super Star (Bandana Waddle Dee) 74. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Angry Birds (Red) 75. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Super Mario 3D World (Cat Mario) 76. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Sonic Adventure (Big the Cat) 77. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Sonic Unleashed (Sonic the Werehog) 78. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Yoshi's Island (Baby Mario) 79. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Alex Kidd 80. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Sonic Adventure 2 (Rouge the Bat) 81. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) (Silver the Hedgehog) 82. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Sonic Rush (Blaze the Cat) 83. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Bad Piggies (Ross) 84. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Star Wars (Darth Vader) 85. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Animator vs. Animation (The Second Coming)

[@nintendoknight5]

Finally a vid where your not milking Switch2 (Im joking btw)

[@supermanails]

Right or clickbaiting!

[@paulgilbert5278]

Fr

[@James-i4j8d]

So true!

[@nintendoknight5]

@@supermanails I agree. A recent vid of his says something about a Switch 2 reveal even though it did not happen

[@beastslayer8729]

No need to joke, he definitely is doing that. We just can't be upset because he is using the algorithm to his advantage. Don't blame the creator, blame the system.

[@35269]

Yeah IGN next time you do this to a awesome Mario game again I’ll sue you

[@thesnatcher3616]

Paper Jam.

[@35269]

@ What does that have to do with anything exactly

[@NickMario1]

Battle league

[@35269]

@@NickMario1 What no those games are awful

[@Gamer1288]

I miss some of the series Staples like how each game had a Remix of Peach's Castle from SM64, How most games had a new World 1-1 Remix for the Tutorials, How Most Games had a really unique and Fantasic New Theme for Bowser's Castle. Bowser's Castle from the 3DS Version of Superstar Saga was really S Tier when it came to music. Same with Neo Bowser Castle in Dream Team though that was more Antasma Themed. I just Entered Bowser's Castle for the First Time I couple days back and for some reason once I got to Bowser I just wanted to stop playing and I have zero idea why.

[@biondigiacomo7176]

But this game does have a remix of Peach's Castle theme. And an unsettling one at that

[@beyondview]

10:18 the plugged in characters look like the blocks there were all used to in Super Mario World on the SNES. At least that's what I thought they were from, they just came to life.

[@awesomeocelot7475]

I could’ve sworn there where more then 12 bosses?

[@blayedd_]

Potentially unpopular but accurate statement: Brothership CLEARS The Thousand Year Door

[@brawlarcher]

i love brothership. but would still say my favorite is bowser’s inside story and dream team. love those giant battle and 2D 3D switch in different situations (bowser’s stomach, dream world) kinda miss those. but it is in my top 3 for sure 👍

[@pkmnlover3812]

I agree Superstar Saga is indeed awesome

[@paulgilbert5278]

Claro Que sí

[@LuisA-m5f]

I personally haven't played this yet but i love Mario and Luigi games so i am def getting for Christmas

[@jwjanimations]

Same

[@Abelix95]

I found a funny video where someone "slapped IGN" every time they disagreed with them on their review. If you would allow me to copy-paste my long, LONG opinion/comment from there, here you go. "Thank you for this video. Made me feel much better for some reason, lol. (Extra respect for not-slapping in a few cases where the critique was actually valid) You know, if the game really only took 35-ish hours for the reviewer to beat, that means they got bored of it quickly because they did not want to play the game. They didn't want to enjoy it. They just wanted to be done with it pronto, so they could write a review as quickly as possible, and that has ruined their whole perspective on the entire experience. I tried going for as much of a 100% playthrough as I could: I completed every side quest, got every unique collectible tracked on the map or in menus (as far as I know), tried punching every ? Block and picking up every coin in the overworld, talked to as many random NPCs as I could... or in short, I actually engaged with the game as much as possible, trying out everything it had to offer... and I finished clocking in just a bit above 60(!) hours! And you know what? I enjoyed it from beginning to finish. And no, I'm not protecting the game blindly, I do agree that it has some performance issues... but only occasionally. For me personally, it was Shipshape Island that lagged quite a bit, and yes, the loading times travelling between islands or transitioning to battles did feel a bit long, but not to the point like how the IGN reviewer described it. And while the change in Luigi's handling is fairly criticized by both reviewers and fans alike, I'm pretty sure the devs decided to make him auto-follow Mario so the game could have more varied platforming sections in it, which is easier to handle when you only have to concentrate on a single character. Imagine hopping through those springy flowers on Floral Island with the classic M&L controls: you land on the very edge of a flower with Mario, but Luigi rigidly following you falls down, and now you have to fall with Mario, too, as a confused Luigi running into the walls down below prevents you from going further. Luigi being able to detach from Mario and think for himself made him feel more natural, more alive for me. He wasn't just a shadow mimicking Mario's movements with a half second delay, he was an actual character. If enemy's controlled by AI are okay, why not a partner character? (And the limited overworld Luigi controls you do have access to can still be used in very fun ways. My favorite way of engaging battles with a first strike was the "Bro Bait-and-Switch" technique, where you deliberately jump OVER an enemy charging at Mario, but then hammer them with Luigi in the back. :D) And the story? Boy, did the reviewer get EVERYTHING wrong about it! Anyone who played previous M&L games: do you remember Bubbles, creator of the Chuckola Cola, from Superstar Sage? Or Dr. Snoozemore, who was supposed to be a very important character but then only appeared like... twice in the entire story of Dream Team? They were uniqely designed characters, yes, but they were given very minimal roles, and that made their overall presence much less impactful. Only the main antagonists and their underlings were present throughout the entire game in previous M&L titles. But in Brothership? (some spoilers ahead, read carefully!) It was such a unique take on Mario and Luigi story telling how many of the new characters who we've only met for the first time in this game, who were designed for this game specifically, turned out to be such important characters, people who you interacted with throughout the entire story. I'm talking Connie, the IDLE kids, Technikki, Chilliam and Burnadette... not a new character, but Princess Peach also had so much more screen time and so much more interaction with the Bros., it was very refreshing. I personally loved how the circle of friends just kept growing and growing for every new "roundtable meeting" whenever the characters gathered around to discuss strategy about overcoming the next big obstacle in their way. Everyone felt so well designed, helping in their onw way however big or small. I kinda grew to like each of those characters, kinda like a... Bond formed between us? :P And yes, the script was a bit more verbose to give each character time to shine, but hey! Most story driven RPGs are like this, aren't they? Yeah, Brothership might not have been the "minimal talking, maximum slapstick" style like most other games, but it had plenty of "Mario and Luigi humor" moments where I laughed out loud, especially since the characters were so well animated and expressive with their new 3D models. (Yes, I did chuckle at every single one of Luigi's landings when arriving at a new island.) I also think it was very clever how the devs handled "backtracking". Unlike previous M&L titles where most areas, including overworld areas felt like dungeons, aka you clear it once but then never go back there 'cause it's a chore to get out and back on track of the main story again, the small islands of Brothership felt really cosy and easy to memorize/get around in, plus the Golden Pipe allowing you to get out of them any time made me want to go back to previous islands and do every side quest as soon as they became available. And finally, let's touch upon the tutorials and "hand-holding". Real fans will know, but Brothership is one of the LEAST hand-holding titles in the series. Instead of building every minor detail of battles into an overly long dialogue, where Toadsworth stops time before every single button press and tells you to do the thing NOW, all tutorials are UI based, and you can mash through them really quickly if you want to (I've seen streamers ignore the tutorials only to be confused 5 seconds later because they didn't know what they were doing :P). Yes, you are given a quick lesson on new mechanics, but come on! This is a family friendly Nintendo game, and after the long years of wait, this might be a lot of young gamers' first Mario and Luigi title. You cannot design a game like this around 30 years old gaming veterans who know from playing RPGs for 5000+ hours what an Attack button is. And even though I've played every game in the series, I did read all the tutorials this time, too, in case something might have changed. (I don't even understand how people want to play any game without knowing how it works/what you're supposed to do. Don't you need to read the rules of a card/board game before you can play? Or do some people play Monopoly just by looking at the pictures on the board and nothing else? If a game, like a Souls game, doesn't tell you what each stat or move does, won't you just read the tooltips or look it up online anyway? Why is it bad if a game offers you an easier way to get yourself accustomed to the rules without any external help? Just because a tutorial pops up, it doesn't mean "the game looks down on you", it just tries to help new players. People should stop hating tutorials with such passion, it's honestly really annoying.) Phew... that was lot off my chest. If you took the time to read my comment, thank you very much. Feel free to rate this comment a 5/10 because it was overly long and subjective and biased, and defending a game that I personally enjoyed playing a lot. :P"

[@mariobrine7012]

This comment is a 10/10 since it described exactly how much I loved this game and how hypocritical some reviewers are in comparing certain aspects of the game to previous entries. Nostalgia is supposed to be rewarding for those who have played the previous entries(like the reefs). I hate when people use nostalgia as a weapon to attack a new entry that take new creative liberties to set itself apart in a way that stays true to the series(especially when that nostalgia is so bleak that people don't realize they are bashing an improvement).

[@User-ue4j4wf3o]

Another day another best rating for a awesome game

[@fraserodonnell7618]

guessing IGN want it to be woke

[@MaskDestruction]

Yeah, not enough non binary characters, unfortunately 😔

[@robertker6098]

I got the game the same day it came out and I finished it on Saturday, also the Mario & Luigi series is my favorite series, so I am just shocked of how low the rating is.

[@ace352]

My wifi finally allowed me to finish my pre order download, and I am currently at the first big light houses. So far, I love it. Definitely not a 5. Kinda hard to avoid spoilers, but I am somehow making it.

[@diapolo360]

Zokket is cozette

[@dannypalin9583]

@@diapolo360 Douchebag

[@ace352]

@diapolo360 >:(

[@pkmnlover3812]

@@diapolo360 tbh was expected who it was (to me at least as I guessed who it was)

[@OptimusGrizly]

I'm on the area after brrning sea and So far, the only thing they missed the mark on was dumbing down Luigi. It's like they started working on his mechanics and then gave up. All they had to do is add the last 2 feats he had. We can have him jump but is pointless since he does that automatically and when in battle, they should have just kept it the A button since that it is what you have to select the move with and doesn't really make sense how they did it.

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

No, its a 2 at the absolute best. Complete slop

[@Dededvine]

Is this how it feels to be a Sonic fan? I’m mean I am one too but wow you guys had it rough.

[@kjohnk69]

Mario And Luigis powerpoint presentation

[@lilisaur]

I don't have a problem with Luigi being under AI control. I've only gotten him stuck once, and sure it cost me 20 seconds of redoing work, but it wasn't unbearable. While I could control both bros in 2D just fine, I'm not sure I'd want to control them both in a 3D world and time both bros jumps over 3D gaps simultaneously. This seemed like a natural progression to adopt when going into 3D. I mean, you just showed on your video how Mario goes one path to collect red coins while Luigi goes another to collect green coins, and they use this gimmick many times in the game. Couldn't easily do that in 2D space, and still can't do that if Luigi is always following Mario, and having to time button presses to make Mario jump then immediately having Luigi jump so they can both make it to the platform to get to the next batch of coins (and then I'd have to run back down the other path to collect the ones Luigi would have got for me.) Having played other games where your partner is under AI control and helps with tasks, especially collection tasks like pulling up the Plug Radishes, I think Luigi's AI control is mostly more good than bad. And if you have a problem with Luigi collecting things for you, you don't have to press that L button. You can lead Mario to pulling up each of those Plug Radishes or collecting all the Lumenade fairies on your own if you want to take the extra time and effort. Why have Luigi stand there like an idiot and watch Mario collect the fairies while some of them fly off in another direction. If it makes sense for Luigi to take action on its own to help, why shouldn't he? There are already too many games with two heroes (each of the previous Mario & Luigi games for example) where the second hero doesn't feel like they do enough. They've fixed that here, and in most cases made it optional, so then why is it still a problem? It's not "Mario WITH Luigi" its "Mario AND Luigi", so I like seeing Luigi doing as much as Mario. And if you don't want him to, they gave you the option to keep that finger off the L button. Having the second character just mindlessly follow the lead and only take action during battles is no different than the other Mario RPGs, so I rather like that they've added some difference to the formula here. The one thing I wish I could do is swap the lead when I want to, controlling Luigi while Mario is run by AI. This happens in a few short spots, but if I could control either and have the other under optional AI control, that would really nail the "and" part of the title. I'd also be able to take better advantage of first strike setups by configuring the brothers differently. You've mentioned allowing the second bro to be under second player human control, and that would be solid too, though I play solo and such an option doesn't appeal to me as much as swapping the two bros under single human player control.

[@thesnatcher3616]

The only real thing that "controlling" luigi in the older games(you didn't, you controlled Mario who luigi stuck to like a flea) yielded you were extra inputs in battle and in some puzzles, certain transformations required to progress in the overworld and pressing a and b constantly to get them both to jump over a gap. In instances like that, it still might as well have been just one input. But I do agree with your final assessment. It also would have been cool if you could separate them at will. They kind of did what you said in Partners in Time, and it would have been nice to see each bro get a more individual "nerfed" moveset in order to give more risk and tradeoff to separating. Basically it would have led to some sick puzzles and level layouts(for example the final castle in Pit where the babies have to scale the castle rafters in order to open up the path to Princess Shroob).

[@Gamer1288]

12:52 I still wish that we got to visit the Present Areas from Partners in Time to see differences between Past and Present.

[@superalec2089]

For Anyone Having Proformance issues, Try Disabling The Switch News, And Switch Notifications. I did and Noticed a Small Decrease in Lag. BC Disabling them 'Frees up RAM' so Less Lag. :)

[@JGr2000]

16:11 this puzzle was the WORST due to Luigi’s AI. Luigi kept stepping on the wrong numbers and this section took me nearly 20 minutes to beat

[@kathygriffin306]

I give it 8.5 I really enjoyed the game

[@Joewho-uk7tq]

It's a pretty good mario and luigi rpg

[@BrodysWorld40]

In kirby and the forgotten land has 1 last secret chaos elfilis when you attack the eyes get bigger

[@BrickinRidiculous]

I want to get it eventually but I want to get Echoes of Wisdom and Tears of the Kingdom first(I know I’m a bit late) I’ll probably get it for my birthday in July but I also tend to agree with IGN so I’m kind of unsure.

[@Moonshine568]

Im honestly shocked and disappointed at how many negative reviews there has been of this game for no real reason other than Nostalgia Lens. This deserves way better

[@Ephrimen]

thank you for giving IGN the middle finger :P

[@DayvidGC]

(Un)friendly reminder that they gave Sticker Star a 8,3/10.

[@carlostejeda4341]

Not gonna lie, I consider bowser inside story a 9, super star saga an 8, and the rest of the franchise including brothership is probably variations of 7, that guy in IGN got some points right but proceeded to exaggerate the flaws of the game like 60% more that what they truly are. The game is a 7, not a 5.

[@DamonGamesAndVlogs]

idc what people think of mario games because i'm a big mario fan so idc if a mario games bad or not i'll still play it

[@NickMario1]

Even sticker star and battle league and ultra smash?

[@tyg-zw7nn]

Right. It's a 6/10

[@Monobrobe]

I don’t get why people talk about pacing issues when you have the ability to fast forward dialogue and cutscenes by holding B. I love Dream Team, but I’m not gonna deny it has a ton of talking and the tutorials are a slog, made worse by the inability to fast forward. But Brothership that option is available, though it took me a while to realize it. Not that I used it often. The game gets very difficult in the last third with how tough it is to read enemies’ attacks. I doubt babies could dodge them. Both Bowser fights felt more like endurance tests with how much difficulty I had countering the attacks. Now that’s not necessarily a knock against the game, but I certainly felt inadequate about my skills. The story was far more compelling than most other Mario games. I feel like people want something simple like Superstar Saga, with more emphasis on gameplay and less complex storytelling.

[@kaiserknuckle9261]

I agree with you it's absolutely not a 5 I enjoyed the story and the return of a couple bros attacks made me giddy only I did feel the end of the game dragged a bit though that is more because I did everything available when it was available it's the completionist in me that caused a bit of burn out

[@mintyaquagreen1675]

Pal I never listen to critics.

[@thatjonperson1261]

i feel like most of what ign says with the review can be invalidated in so many ways, most of the issues they had were in the past mario and luigi games as well. And in my opinion, the performance issues on my side weren't bad/ almost unnoticeable at times. Luigi being an npc is actually fine imo, as past mario and luigi games, luigi is always staying behind mario and very close to him, most of the actions you do is with mario and it feels like luigi is just tethered to mario. Pressing L for him to move around to do his action feels like he is not sticking behind mario except for bros attacks or bros moves. The only time luigi is independent in past games is when mario and luigi are forcibly separated, so it feels nice that luigi actually has something to do. Overall this game is an 8/10 for me. It has its problems, but their are so many positives about it that outweighs it.

[@Luigi56999]

I completely disagree that Luigi is an npc in fact I believe it’s a little overblown. While I do agree the physics could have used some polishing and optimization and better realization, but I feel some of the puzzles with the Luigi logic are actually fun.

[@Gavincrossings]

Hi Nin10doland it’s a 7.5 and definitely not a 5 😂

[@obsidianfury5617]

Day 2 of saying The Next Mario & Luigi game should be a crossover with Sonic!!

[@Cal_inkman23]

Anyone from 2024 thinks that mario and luigi brothership is the greatest game so far today?

[@fractalfalco3964]

IGN doesn't like RPG's

[@paulgilbert5278]

They don’t like water either.

[@christophermartinez8836]

If they don't like RPG's, than how come they gave Pokémon Shield a 9.3 out of 10? Pokémon is basically a RPG game.

[@kenzonPower]

@@christophermartinez8836 Pokemon is crap nowadays who cares

[@christophermartinez8836]

@@kenzonPower I do, cause I started playing Pokémon when Sword and Shield came out.

[@timhiltz6323]

It’s at least a 8

[@zephclips-fr]

there is something wrong with people who think a low rating is “hating” or “disliking” a game.

[@riverrpg2589]

Okay why does everyone bag on granpy turnip? He’s just a chill guy with some good advice

[@FurtherFox1856]

Bro

[@NickMario1]

Fumo

[@FurtherFox1856]

@@NickMario1 huh?

[@Itsamemariotime]

The thing I hate most about this game is battle plugs when I fought bowser I was doing more damage with 2 iron balls attack boost and anti bowser army why dose anti bowser army work against bowser when he’s the leader and when I fought glom bowser anti bowser army still worked against him and it takes the fun out of needing to use bros attacks for better damage

[@Nikolas0269]

SAY IT

[@trycon40]

omg yo even knocked that ball between mario and luigi 100 time?

[@AnthonySmith-bj9mo]

hi Nin10doland

[@AlessandroLoscueva]

This nintendo direct form a few days ago isen't iether: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpCcYYKIeMitgqMsi=Va3K7cIG9JR5yGCU

[@painuchiha2694]

I don’t care for the story at all and I’m at the wedding part They could not make me care for these generic plug npcs lol But the combat and animations might be some of the best in the series

[@NickMario1]

Better then generic toads lol

[@phonicstream5235]

It’s not an 8/10 either… It’s an 11/10

[@RangerZero47]

Sometimes it takes one to spread a believable rumor. IGN says 5 so a lot of people will believe it.

[@war1011]

Nah it's a 3 & 7 m3 L7 3ario & 7uigi

[@ghostdog3566]

Gave my thoughts on the IGN review & game in a previous thread; leaving it here: '....nah he's def familiar; he's just objectively wrong af here. This game is at LEAST an 8....I'm actually leaning towards 9/9.5. The characters are endearing, the writing has made me belly laugh a few different times, level design & mechanics are creative af, the hub world is well-done & has a fast travel option he never once mentioned; & evolves nicely as the game goes on (as do the islands), the frame rate hiccups reaaaaally ain't that serious & are less of an issue than the were in Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom (which got a way higher rating even though the frame rate was likewise listed as a negative), the tutorials are mostly subtle & mostly skippable, & it took all of 10-15 min to get used to using A for confirming Luigi's initial selection. And Luigi, while not fully/directly controllable is extremely well-implemented even w/ the AI aspects (to the point I would even say this is the most brotherly they've ever felt) I'm actually glad they bucked tradition & took the risk to incorporate him this way (the contrary being a hill the IGN reviewer is ready to die on apparently)' Might I add that as amazing & expansive as the battle system is; I love that the variety in enemy types AND attacks constantly keep me on my toes

[@yinlianghe5980]

I mean i feel like a 5 just means it’s in the middle of kinda and really terrible so i would say it’s a 9 at least. (I don’t understand what people mean by the tutorials

[@stevenmattrell3448]

You can't spell ignorant without IGN

[@zephclips-fr]

aren’t you just content farming this game?

[@imerebus]

yeah its a 5… out of 5! ha gottem but fr its just a 7/10.

[@Samuelcraft456]

Ign You are not right what you wrote the game is amazing

[@raphanderconph]

ofc isnt 5/10 is 3/10

[@minishchap]

there's my chippy

[@CBF97OFFICAL]

hmm a 8/10 would do the trick i think brothership deserves a chance

[@OptimusGrizly]

Oh and when does it get more challenging? I agree with IGN with some of the things. I am just after the brrning sea and so far in my 20 something hours there has been no challenge. I have so many items stored from doing all the pointless side quests. I never died once and never had to use items during any battles. It's just too easy. Even my 5 and 8 year old are breezing through it. Story is OK. Same go here do this, go here collect that then beat game. Same as previous Mario and Luigi games. I don't agree with the 5 but.. I would say it's a 6 or 7 if there has to be a number attached to it.

[@MrKarlos9122]

lol nintendrones defending this sad game

[@MrKarlos9122]

@ if you read the article the 5 was fair. even RGT agrees lol 😂

[@jackbrennan2208]

So, it's good? I haven't looked at the whole thing yet and I want to play the game soon

[@fluffyvark6562]

In the first couple of hours it is very slow paced, and in the entirety of the game there is A LOT of dialogue. Quirs a lot of side quest are meaningless, but sometimes fun to do, and the gameplay, mainly battling, is absolutely amazing! If you dont mind long games, you could easily get 30 hours without completing the game yet. I havent completed everything, but I am over halfway done, and I can say that this is a really good game. Slow at times, but really good. I play it casually, a couple of days of the week for an hour, maybe two, and this is, imo, THE way to enjoy this game the most.

[@paulgilbert5278]

The problem is nobody knows what taking a break it. They try to force 40+ and they wonder why they don’t like it. Play it 2-3 hrs a day for a week.

[@yoshifan-n4n]

the 5/10 is just IGN's opinion if someone says a game is bad does not mean you should not play it, you don't know if it's bad unless you play the game.

[@marioandultrachap]

more like a 7.5

[@Maho3942]

Won’t say 5. More like a 6 or 6.5

[@DeeboFromHI]

Didn’t it get overall solid reviews? IGN isn’t god bro 😂😂

[@fridaynightfunkinfan5627]

Is anyone else having this problem?: I’ve pulled out every sprite bulb nest that I can find on Desolatt and Lottacoins, but they say they still each have 1 left, & their maps don’t show those nests, so I can’t know where they are. Can someone help me(and not leave this comment alone to be forgotten in the void)?

[@biondigiacomo7176]

Tried entering every building?

[@fridaynightfunkinfan5627]

@ I think so, but I don’t know so. As for Lottacoins, I looked around every part of the area I thought I could find. I’ll look again next time I play if I remember.