Mark BULLIES Rolodoc Owners With Their Poor Presentation | Shark Tank US | Shark Tank Global

Richard Amini and Albert Amini are seeking $50,000 for 20% for their social network for the medical community, Rolodoc.
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[@pneumonoultramicroscopicsiIico]

When he said that they were bringing social media into the medical field I imagined a doctor taking a selfie in the middle of a surgery

[@juano8727]

😂😂😂😂 Imagine doctors doing Tiktok during a surgery

[@akayysworld]

@@juano8727didnt that literally happen 😂

[@Jamesgutierrez024]

Yes it did, she lost her license!

[@workdevice7808]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JoelAssiakwa]

😂😂😂

[@zuhayrkhan7103]

For the first time Kevin was actually the most understanding and calm

[@philorgneopolotin8762]

Kevin just wanted to know how he’d make him money back and they couldn’t even tell him that lol

[@ThahnG413]

Kevin's actually always calm. Most of the time he plays the villain on the show for entertainment, but he is actually a nice guy irl.

[@duncreg]

@@ThahnG413 Unless he hits you with a boat.

[@marc-antoinemarcoux697]

@@ThahnG413 Kevin loves scams and playing with someone else's health.

[@Beast_Titan]

frr

[@blazed-space]

Their plan: 1. Buy a database 2. Send an email 3. Profit 😂

[@kareemosman100]

Rare😂

[@abinvarkey2331]

their plan: socialmedia!!!!

[@jsanc55]

Legend has it they’re still trying to bring social media to the medical community.

[@fvinc7604]

😂

[@daniellavaladez7820]

🤣🤣🤣

[@GeeksGumbot]

😢😢

[@azzamziply3039]

WebMd

[@GeeksGumbot]

@azzamziply3039 really? That's cool 😎

[@itachi1276]

They LITERALLY had no plan

[@334nickg]

Social media! Advertising! Buzzwords!!

[@brandoniswhoiam]

Not one!

[@Anas_Alaqeel]

They had no idea bro

[@Fastxfords99]

I agree.. these guys are way unprepared.

[@oliverdeeley]

@@Fastxfords99 More like arrogant. Here's why. They seem to be in the notion that the Sharks will be confused with all the buzz words they're using. They seem to think that have a medical license that they have to speak at lower level for the Sharks to understand. Rule one: know your audience because the accolades don't mean squat.

[@GarbageGoober.]

Phase 1: Social Media Phase 2: ??? Phase 3: Profit.

[@charlescox290]

Reminds me of gnomes.

[@bliao14]

Phase 2: A miracle occurs

[@duckpwnd]

I thought doctors carried pagers so that they could be reached in emergencies. Why would a social media app for doctors allow them to get rid of their pagers?

[@It5meRachel]

That’s what i was thinking

[@MrTibbs12]

Pagers receive signals in even the most extreme locations..smartphones don’t..this is a pointless app..also most medical practices have their own fb and twitter accounts where patients can contact them..they don’t need it..i’ve not taken the time to see if they are still in business but i doubt it

[@jackw8338]

The whole pager bit was just used so they could mold the narrative of the medical field having such outdated tech. Of course they didn’t mention the legitimate reason why it’s still used. They just wanted that shock factor of “wow they still use pagers from the 80’s??”

[@Times397]

Pretty sure they have cell phones now

[@MrTibbs12]

@@Times397 pagers are still the most reliable..hospitals already have the infrastructure in place for them..the batteries last forever too..its a case of its not broke don’t fix it

[@AH-te5gs]

"I'm pulling teeth, I should be a dentist." Underrated comment by Cubes.

[@briandessero4580]

Cubes just for calling me Cubes I’m out

[@King-Squid-99]

The idea of bringing social media to the medical industry is so dystopian and terrifying

[@Karina-er7mx]

This system is used now. This was shot in 2009.

[@Legofan94828]

@@Karina-er7mx no it isn't.

[@blitz5803]

One of the only times where Barbara's reason for being out was valid lol

[@kristiang.9600]

My thoughts exactly

[@wooaahh23]

Well even though she can give some pretty dumb reason's for being out. All she has to say is she doesn't think the business is for her like the other sharks. No matter reason they give its always valid, because they get to choose how to spend their money. Whether she checks her watch and says: It's Tuesday, and 4 p.m., and I would invest but I don't make deals on Tuesday at 4 p.m. so for that reason I'm out. Or, I love your product, you, and the sales are great, and I think we can make a lot of money doing this, but you're wearing a blue shirt so for that reason I'm out. Its Valid

[@invincibledrank460]

according to mark cuban, most of the investments on the show did not make profit, so in a way, barbara going out for almost every pitch saved her lots of money.

[@Opportunitiesgh]

I see this on every video….😂😂😂how??

[@JPMix_TV]

I was about to type this and I saw your comment. Thank you good sir.

[@DctrGizmo]

The funny thing is that major hospitals already have their own apps which I’ve used where you can contact your doctors. This felt like a college project more than anything.

[@Ebombda12543]

yeah i literally have an app i use to communicate directly with my physician

[@tayeb7031]

well this was in 2013

[@Account-br9kc]

this was perfectly fine idea, and since this is from 2013 they may have been one of the first to start something like this

[@sekar9901]

​​@@Account-br9kcWe have similar apps like this here in my country, it's now a unicorn company. But instead of email you can reach the doctor directly through the app (there's chat feature).

[@Anon-qp3kt]

@@Account-br9kc it was too vague. That’s like me saying “We should build an app where consumers can buy produce directly from farmers” but without any actual work behind it other than putting a name, profile picture and contact no.

[@VoltiumOG]

Entrepreneur: S O C I A L M E D I A Mark: **Has a stroke**

[@Empr.Palpatine]

😂😂😂

[@oliverdeeley]

While it does look like Mark is bullying the Armini brothers, he's making it very clear to them (like any other business). The Armini Brothers are trying to use buzz words, thinking the Sharks don't understand what they are saying. Reality is, the Sharks do know what the brothers are saying. Repeatedly, they have asked for the numbers and the plan to grow the business. But neither of the brothers addressed it. Kudos to Mark Cuban for giving them the message straight in the face.

[@leprechaun3677]

“Protein is never wasted when a death occurs” -I absolutely love this metaphor.

[@julieisaacson610]

I am a physician and I do not understand their vision. Is it to attract new patients, converse with established patients, share interesting medical information, allow physicians to interact with one another? “Social Media” does not work well in medicine because of strict HIPPA privacy laws. Most people cannot see a physician unless that MD participates in their insurance plan which adds complexity to the equation.

[@jamespotter3117]

Nothing they said made any sense other than: "here's my app, gimme some money 💰"

[@dac8939]

Finding personalised doctor with rating verified and reviewed. Or screened before adding them.

[@BlackPrintBK]

@@dac8939 thats what zocdoc is for

[@jbenz1990]

They probably thought it was a good idea, talked about it over dinner with mommy and daddy they couldn’t say no and wished their sons well.

[@TheBlackDorothyZbornak]

You’re a physician and don’t know it’s called HIPAA??

[@ayyachris]

When Kevin ask “How do I make money with this?” That’s when it gets real

[@bydivadream]

MyChart has this beat by miles

[@sumit9803]

the clip is from 2013

[@Alicia_W413]

Kevin has no heart, but Mark was the one who got up and insulted them to their face 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@seanthomas5182]

Good I hope they heed his advice

[@zxvivxz5753]

good

[@yatinkumar4002]

They deserved it. If Mark had not done that, then next time also they would be giving same pitch to other investors. Mark actually helped them to prepare better.

[@B_Ahmed1234]

The insults were from the heart though

[@oliverdeeley]

@@yatinkumar4002 Exactly. Buzz words won't do anything against the Sharks or an investor. The Armini doctors are educated enough to know that they need to already know their audience. Kudos to Mark Cuban making it clear.

[@inb3656]

“They were right about one thing” “What?!” “You have no heart” Damnn lori💀💀

[@dawitbelai514]

seems cuban had no heart on this one

[@JustChill_1031]

That's actually a common trait for many multi-billionaires...

[@barmor552]

I love how they picked up the pagers lol

[@AdamBechtol]

Was kinda the best part lol

[@singstreetcar5881]

They need it. Lol

[@xavierwhitcraft1310]

People don’t like Marks aggressiveness but he hates scammers and people who waste his time. If you are approaching the sharks you need to have a solid business plan and something they can work with

[@CyrilOfTheWind]

They don't even seem to understand WHY they still use pagers.

[@randomtimessomehow]

7:24 I think Mark was arrogant in this scenario. Yes this idea and presentation sucked, but +1 what Robert said afterwards

[@CabbageYe]

This company is now valued higher than Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Apple combined.

[@inspirobotinspiration4360]

I know this is a joke but I would lowkey love if it were true.

[@n0isyturtle]

If I were looking for a specialty doctor, I would go out of my way to avoid any that focuses on their branding and social posts. I don't need an influencer doctor.

[@jblanisme972]

I genuinely have no idea what they were trying to do

[@nancyjones6780]

No clue

[@DavidN16792]

just facebook/instagram but for doctors. though they don’t really show the social media aspect (at all). also, they had no way of competing with other social networks

[@nnex]

Lol there’s a site called Practo in India that does literally the same thing and it’s a multi million dollar valuation. Could have just said Yelp for doctors.

[@onceajordan]

😂😂 or justDial. Yellow pages for doctors

[@justincoleman7856]

Sorry, but when you have a product & you say that it's only in the alpha stage with only 50 users, then no it's not gonna go well. On top of that, I do agree that this can become a huge liability issue because of the fact that they're trying to get in contact with the clients without having them come in person and on top of that, there's a very good likelihood that someone can easily hack the system and 'act' like a doctor and easily fool someone into something that they don't need or want.

[@chrisnoziere2893]

Mark had me dying when shook their hands and said worst presentation ever I’m out! And the doctors were smiling and thought they were going to get a deal. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jonjustdope]

Their use of "social media" reminds me of Ryan from The Office.

[@BlackMoridin]

For some reason this one is the one where i appreciated how good Lori her instincts are.

[@derkach7907]

In this video they said "social" 15 times, "communicating/communication" 9 times.

[@campfit_]

"Okay I am being a bully and they deserve to be bullied" LMAO

[@xJMAN92x]

Proof that business isn’t about memorization; whereas being a doctor is.

[@aayasir217]

That's how those Physicians's conversation goes. Doc 1: Social Media Doc 2: Yes, Social Media Doc 1: Hmm, Social Media Doc 2: Oh yes, Social Media

[@ready_for_zombies]

Mark you don't understand, they are bringing social media to Doctors 😂😂😂

[@LGM090221]

They picked up their "dumb ole pagers" on the way out the door lmao.

[@ShayanGivehchian]

They didn't do a good job presenting but the idea is solid. They have multiple platforms for patient doctor connection in my country like this where you can view their resume and connect for consultations and it works great.

[@Darknesssleeps]

The idea is not solid at all. There’s huge liability issues and HIPPA issues at play here

[@l.acosta4739]

@meBobbyG This was relatively new at the time (2013) for the US market

[@thatimpressionguy9723]

I’ve been watching the bad shark tank pitches recently and it kinda saved my life it’s a good teacher of what not to do when presenting a pitch or product good stuff 😊

[@portugalfc7]

Rolodoc might be useful if you need a very immediate medical records when there’s a doctor that doesn’t recognizes you. It can be applied when you’re out of the country and you need a specific medical attention. The best way is to go to rolodoc and check the records and the doctor can instantly know what to do. I think that’s what they’re trying to do behind this

[@w1ntersoldier669]

2:13 Ahh yes do a search engine

[@BenDover-tk5gd]

LMAOOO 😂

[@lorenzop9914]

Well, i see that in the presentation doctors lacked the main key points of how to do a sales presentation. Evasive at best on detailed answer from sharks and always pressuring on social media feature of the solution. They were missing the money thing.

[@raulmendez9012]

5:51 he predicted what elon would do to twitter 😂

[@ericng7656]

Considering they are doctors, i cannot believe they come up with such a horrible product

[@kareemosman100]

Why. Do you think all doctors are smart?

[@animedemonsword4306]

@@kareemosman100yes?????

[@AlAl-bk5ei]

I can’t believe they think they have enough connections in the medical field They seem like they wanted to spam every doctor they could find with an email saying “please use our app” and expected everyone to join Unless they invent a new life saving treatment no one will care about an app they learned about though spam email

[@davidjones8047]

I think Mark was too harsh here. The idea definitely wasn’t going to work but these guys had actual credibility in their field and had good intentions. That’s more than I can say for some other presenters on the show.

[@davydovua]

The funny thing is, (almost) the exact same idea does work here in Ukraine perfectly, just with one simple addition to make it a real buisness: it makes money from affiliations with clinics that allowed to do appointments through their site. Right now not that profitable for obvious reasons though.

[@chrisnoziere2893]

Watch his pitch with Pavlok

[@smack80]

A couple of surgeons don't need 50k to start a business. They need Mark Cuban to come and do all the work for them so they can go back to surgery, and keep 80% of the business.

[@noelr1010]

That's not enough. Yeah they have good intentions (that should be a given) and credibility in their field (also another given)... But they are trying to pitch a social media / tech product which is obviously out of their expertise

[@davidjones8047]

@@noelr1010 It definitely is out of their expertise but I don't think this deserves to be called "worst presentation ever" when considering pitches like Pavlok and MinusCal which were pretty much just scams.

[@josephsummers2427]

I like how only one doctor answered questions. The other, too scared.

[@jamzjamz8250]

On wayback the doctors picked up their pagers back , understanding that only pagers are better😂😂

[@yatinkumar4002]

People who think that Mark was harsh...then my dear friends, Mark had to be; because even being a physician trying to be entrepreneurs, they didn't know how to present themselves. So no investors will invest.

[@sandeshvantveen]

The worst part of it all was their lager argument. The whole reason old technology is still being used is because it’s reliable and works under any circumstance. Even modern smart home smoke alarms still have an actual old fashioned beeper systeem built in because it absolutely needs to work in case of emergency.

[@derekj.russell458]

The funny thing is that Mark Cuban is preventing them from serving jail time by just keeping it real.

[@therenaissancesoul]

Well, if they only understood they are trying to create LinkedIn for doctors. Doctors will then interact with patients through an interface. An inner circle of professionals, an outer circle of clients. The inner circle is vetted.

[@save_cats]

“Please don’t screenshot this for LOL’s Doc but I have this thing on my butt”

[@Kerorofan1990]

Guy in blue looks like what would happen if you left Pete Davidson in the microwave for too long.

[@chlownee]

😭

[@adventurefitnessescape700]

Doctors and business have rarely been synonymous to one another.

[@DblTap317]

Not everyone has a private doctor Kevin. He has no idea what being poor is like Lmao

[@jay-dubb.dubb.68]

1:20 Interesting how the pitching doctors come up in every search!!! 😳🎉

[@rajatthedronzer]

Barbara: "So you are telling me that Kevin here does not have a heart? For that reason, I am out. :)"

[@inbanw]

Practo has done this well in India.

[@ChrisPolg]

Mark built them up with the handshake then he crushed them 💀 I work in healthcare and unfortunately I see many docs that can not do proper presentations

[@bioshock9998]

Shows that textbook smart and studying for years doesn’t mean you can think logically

[@DJH316007]

Social Media! Social Media! Social Media! Social Media!

[@Vic_Chaos_]

5:00 Mark bullied the Indian accent back into him momentarily... damn

[@Chanelson2010]

Observant

[@AP-lw4rw]

These are the kinda guys that became doctors because society told them to and their parents couldn’t think otherwise.

[@TripTrailz]

My team had bring a successful application which connects doctors and patients. After seeing this video, I'm so happy to be a part of it.

[@MirageUchiha]

_Somethin almost like My Chart. Lol_ _Guess they were ahead of the curve._

[@Asian-Hawaiian-Orian]

Lol. I am not a doctor. but the sheer fact that there's like 30 people I have to talk to before I see a doctor, makes me think doctors don't want to talk to people.

[@gersonmoreno9978]

probably this idea sounded good when they were drinking at the bar.

[@yuratripwire1001]

Mr wonderful’s face at the end “idk what you want me to tell ya” lol

[@yoselynvsp]

MyChart already did this you can see all your things and message your provider but I think they need to use EPIC medical records only

[@JackSimple-xw1ng]

Which most hospitals already use. Also, no way doctors want an extra social media app for patients to bother them on. What were they thinking?

[@t.d.d1570]

It’s so weird how they opened with pagers which I’m sure doctors don’t use to communicate OUTSIDE of the hospital! So strange…..their example of someone wanting to find a doctor in a new area didn’t make any sense in helping doctors themselves communicate within a hospital setting, while on the job. I’ve lost my eyes from rolling them every time he says SOCIAL MEDIA

[@bocimino463]

A wonderful and little known company called Epic absolutely bodied these guys before they got off the ground.

[@sanjanewmoonlife]

You don't need Doctor 😁😁 I'm visiting Doctor every 10 years...

[@M2356U]

How many teeth have you lost yet?

[@TalonZgamer]

I don't know for sure...but they MIGHT Being trying to bring social media to the medical profession.

[@ImTheScottMann]

Reason why pagers are used is to eliminate even the temptation to mindlessly scroll, its basic but it gets your attention when your attention is needed

[@passtheawksshow]

I would not like the idea of my confidential medical records being tied in with something being considered "social media."

[@ericyestramski8390]

Dude they need a pharmacist to physician app. Getting in contact with doctors is the most impossible thing ever. Sometimes patients go weeks without their prescription because the pharmacist can’t contact the doctor to change/fix the prescription

[@gregorypeterson9]

That was brutal 😳 😅

[@killerbeez1034]

We are trying to put social media into medicine 😎😂😂😂

[@hhds113]

Mark: "Take a step back" Doctors *literally taking a step back* Mark: "Not literally!!"

[@MichaelSmith-tr7fe]

Mark must have been having a bad day.

[@unowen7591]

Yeah this is similiar to presenting in front of a class without practicing beforehand. Most uncomfortable feeling ever when you can't get the words out and everyone's just staring at you

[@jasonh6910]

I think this is a good idea. Think about it, why do real estate agent market directly on a real estate website for their listing? Because that’s where people go to find a home to rent or buy. A rolodoc can be a website just for doctors to advertise their business.

[@Anon-qp3kt]

It should just be a direct link to doctors, that’s it. But the idea needs to be more polished than just “social media”

[@Sponge247]

I can tell you not every doctor is looking for more patients. I’m a doctor.

[@joshkaid]

Nobody: Them: *Social Media*

[@demontamerbf18]

I can't believe the Sharks didn't want to make a deal, the guys were gonna BRING SOCIAL MEDIA TO MEDICINE!!!!!

[@NotUrAverageDawg]

i feel like robert is marks complementing other half because one is rude and the other is nice its a funny commedical relationship between them 😂

[@mizukage796]

Where did they go to medical school 😢

[@porfavorneccesitoelbano]

Feels more like a half-assed school project than an actually fleshed out and implemented idea

[@Madmaxgaming130]

"Two doctors from Tuscon, Arizona" That's the problem. That's the entire problem. They are from ARIZONA

[@KenKaniff-dw4jw]

Tbh my drs now have something just like this. They were ahead of there time

[@jpdelete]

For every question they answered with "social media" it was painful to watch

[@narvelbaltimore5690]

6:11 Mark: Worst presentation ever, I'm out.

[@rubenreyna2198]

2023. A lot of physicians & people in Health Care use a similiar system like this now. Medicare, Healthnet ect. Theyre all over the net or reccomended by clinics.

[@Germinate16]

I can confidently say, I don't want those 2 anywhere near my operation table. Is there an app to make sure of that?

[@7.5Mviews]

I work in govt regulations and companies have been trying to build similar platforms for years. It’s nearly impossible to work given all the current regulations about privacy and security. Also healthcare systems don’t want to work together/share patient information, so there’s that.

[@mightymagnificent3267]

I feel like mark was a little too harsh because LinkedIn basically had the same method of bringing social media to the networking business world. What one of the sharks was why they would want to use this over the many emails those doctors get swarmed by. If LinkedIn was on shark tank, they would have asked them the same question but they are succeeding now right? And They brought social media to the business world.

[@Anon-qp3kt]

linkedin makes money through affiliated marketing by putting public businesses in a public setting so that employers can filter candidates. Doctors go thru tons of patients daily. You basically will be asking doctors to hire an assistant that would then organize and respond to the thousands of messages. You think doctors want that? Even in LinkedIn, CEOs typically don’t manage their own account or respond to the messages

[@jellyfishmoodlamp]

That ‘no heart’ bit about mr wonderful was bold lol

[@vamos419]

The real way to make this work is, inviting doctors to meet with their patients on this app/website and taking a small cut for each consultation.

[@ariyanto9086]

Actually in Indonesia there is a same business model name “hallodoc” they making money by selling the consultation ex: you pay 5dollar for having 30minute consultations with the doctor

[@kaitlyntenters9283]

That's why I have Zoc Doc