Mark Galeotti - 90's Style Gangster Shootout in Central Moscow within Sight of the Kremlin Walls.

GUEST: Mark Galeotti - historian, author, security expert and academic. In this episode 90's Style Shoot-out in Moscow and Russian Opposition Descends into Destructive Squabbles & Battles.
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CHAPTERS:
00:02:35 The wife who really was the power powerhouse behind the creation of Wildberries.
00:04:26 The overt criminality of the 1990s, now actually taking place in the centre of Moscow.
00:07:29 Promotion / fundraiser: for Ukrainian documentary project.
00:13:16 When the state wants to use violence, it has umpteen methods at its disposal.
00:14:34 It's more a symptom of the state's inability to control its unruly agents in Chechnya.
00:16:32 There’s very little likelihood of the Russian Federation in its entirety breaking apart.
00:19:41 It's clear that China as a state is supporting Russia, through a plethora of businesses.
00:23:54 Every country is interested in its own self-interest, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise.
00:28:19 Trump has committed himself to imposing a ceasefire, very much to Russia’s benefit.
00:30:00 USSR was a state that committed itself to militarization and neglected quality of life.
00:34:15 Russia is the first mafia that owns a country as well.
00:35:21 Belousov is not the right person. You need a tough, brutal enforcer to do that job.
00:40:35 Ukrainians could bite off a big chunk of Kursk region surprisingly, amazingly quickly.
00:55:04 Prigozhin was a violent, vicious thug. Do ends justify means in undermining Putin?
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SPEAKER:
Mark Galeotti is an author and academic - by training an historian - but in practice an interdisciplinary scholar with interests encompassing politics, criminology, security studies, international relations, and anthropology. He is a specialist in transnational and organized crime, security affairs, Russian Politics, Russian History, Intelligence and Security. Mark has a PhD in Government from LSE and has worked as a Senior Lecturer and Head of Department of History at Keele University. He is a Principal Director at Mayak Intelligence, and is an Honorary Professor, SSEES at UCL. He is a Senior Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute. He has also been Professor of Global Affairs at New York University from 2009 to 2016.
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BOOKS:
Downfall: Prigozhin, Putin, and the new fight for the future of Russia
by Mark Galeotti and Anna Arutunyan (2024)
Mark Galeotti: Putin's Wars: From Chechnya to Ukraine (2022)
Mark Galeotti: The Weaponisation of Everything: A Field Guide to the New Way of War (2022)
Mark Galeotti: A Short History of Russia: From the Pagans to Putin (2021)
Mark Galeotti: Storm-333: KGB and Spetsnaz seize Kabul, Soviet-Afghan War 1979 (2021)
Mark Galeotti: We Need to Talk About Putin: How the West gets him wrong (2019)
Mark Galeotti: Russian Political War: Moving Beyond the Hybrid (2019)
Mark Galeotti: The Vory: Russia's Super Mafia (2018)
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[@markb8468]

One of my favorite guests. Thanks Jonathan. Its great to see how much your channel has grown.

[@Niko-hs3ls]

Yessss Galeotti is the best 🎉

[@robinschaefer3448]

Mark Galeotti is an expert whose opinion I trust.

[@skippy9659]

..meh…

[@mikejess04]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@normandduern2413]

Mark Galeotti is always one of the most lucid minds anywhere.

[@shermoore1693]

I always keep an eye out for Mark Galeotti, he's the person I trust the most when it comes to understanding Russia and its 'manoeuvres'. Thanks Jonathan, another great interview.

[@EhEhEhEINSTEIN]

I see Galeotti in a YT video title, I click

[@pootymcpoots]

My Sundays are punctuated by Mark's In Moscow's Shadows show and Perun's powerpoint presentations

[@mcbellyman3265]

You've been absolutely prolific with the interviews recently, bravo.

[@barkebaat]

Galeotti is a beast of a brain!

[@MiqqeyMaose00]

Absolute favorite Guest!!! - Mark Galeotti🎉❤

[@MegaKnodel]

I love Galeotti

[@DavidBrown-mi4ot]

Wooo! In Mark we trust

[@thinktwice-me7ie]

I have to agree about Karamurza. I was in tears when he was sent to the Gulag, but when exchanged through the release of real murderers he talked to the western world what we had to do for Russia now, which made me think shut up, if we have to help anyone right now its the Ukranians.

[@kMegalonyx]

He was talking more sense soon after, I hope someone set him straight but I wouldnt count on it sticking if it even happened.

[@karentorkar8256]

He'd been kept in solitary for 11 months straight. Didn't expect to live. Has changed his message since his return back into life.

[@ruthwolfer4154]

indeed, I was very concerned/rather shocked how he spoke...

[@user-tv5rs2xi5y]

Ukrainians population it's victims of war and genocide?

[@mariabengtssonviking]

I don't think that he understood how much people in Europe and USA had changed their mind about Russia and Putin after he got into prison, and it will probably take a little time. I'm trying to stay positive about the ordinary citizens of Russia, but I hope they can start making some noise and complain about the disturbing situation in Ukraine Slava Ukraine from Scandinavia

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

You really attract powerful people, here. Lovely learning with you and your guests. Keep it up, Jonathan! Pootler is going down at incredible speed. I wish people could see and act accordingly.

[@Sarefsx]

Great conversation!

[@The_ZeroLine]

Happy to say I just made my first contribution to the doc / aid delivery project.

[@mariansaines5021]

Et moi! That film can have a very powerful impact in assisting Ukraine🤗😁

[@VoidAspect]

Loving the Mark Galeotti and Silicon Curtain crossover

[@philjameson292]

Great interview Jonathan and good to see a "heavy hitter" on your channel

[@davidgamble6152]

WooHoo Mark is back 😊

[@normm1619]

Mark, is possibly the most knowledgeable and realistic commentator on Ukraine/russia…Timothy Snider is another…

[@andyreznick]

Mark, Mark, Mark! Yay....

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@thinktwice-me7ie]

Thank you. Gorgeous discussion

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

Yes. Seems to me there should be more explicit emphasis that US/EU support for Ukraine is a national security issue, not a “foreign aid” issue.

[@user-tv5rs2xi5y]

How exactly making from Ukraine enternal battlefield. But people in Ukraine don't want die for that. They want as normal people runaway from endless war. Human body not created for war they dying.Support for Ukrainian population it's when territory of Ukraine accept in NATO and EU and change policy or kremlins. One hand support Ukraine other buying kremlin resources for support russian war in Ukraine

[@bobjohnbowles]

@@user-tv5rs2xi5y Let me guess: you are either a bot or dyslexic.

[@MrBudgiejoe]

Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦💪

[@thesilkpainter]

Excellent guest! Thank you!

[@freddyklein415]

Great episode, as ever! Thank you very much for your stand in the informational war we‘re in!

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@Andreas-d7d]

Thank you very much Jonathan and Mark!

[@johncromwell2529]

Thx Guys great work both of you!

[@Sylvie_M]

Great discussion as usual.

[@philjameson292]

The problem for Putin is that the more that he identifies with his escapade then the more the impact upon him if it doesn't turn out in glory It's almost impossible for Putin to avoid an existential crisis

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

He's done, just wait and see.

[@swarfify]

We saw this a year or so ago. Hard times ahead .​@@PandemoniumMeltDown

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

@@swarfify Indeed. Prepare.

[@paulstewart4195]

Never met a bunch of people so divorced from objective reality as the supporters of the Kiev Neo Nazis .its done the jigs up its now the end game how many forms do you need reality in🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

[@richardjohnson3463]

Great channel, and a great guest 👍

[@danwall9301]

Very insightful and informative discussion. Thank you Silicon Curtain.

[@stonefarm]

Thank you for your great show, and thank you as always, Mark.

[@johncromwell2529]

Thx great work both of you!

[@mariachychula2880]

thank you both

[@pluto-pw2yd]

We love you dearly

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

Moscow horde´s war record :- 1856 defeated by Britain and France 1905 defeated by Japan 1917 defeated by Germany 1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states 1939 defeated by Finland 1969 defeated by China 1989 defeated by Afghanistan 1989 defeated in the Cold War. 1996 defeated by Chechnya 2022 defeated by Ukraine WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :- a) Hungary 1956 b) Czechoslovakia 1968 c) Moldova 1992 d) Georgia 2008

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Winners exp-1

[@jaimepatena7372]

I thought Finland in 1944 had to give up some land valuable in minerals to Stalin for a peace treaty? Am I wrong?

[@louisaweiler5340]

Summay

[@UserDefaultEurope]

@@jaimepatena7372 Russia had to give up two million men in exchange for 20.000 Finns and 10% of Finnish bogs, and one mine. Easy prey.

[@gerryhouska2859]

@@jaimepatena7372 Gave up Karelia for a ceasefire. Still, ruSSia failed to defeat the much smaller Finland.

[@biaberg3448]

I never wait to the end, I click like in the beginning!

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@paulwatson8809]

I LOVE the idea of crowdfunding a redux of the Russian 'Puppets' satire mocking the likes of Putin, Kadyrov, Shoigu & co.with, of course, cameos by the Ghost of Prigohzin...

[@SiliconCurtain]

It could do so much to undermine the ‘bunker dwarf’

[@paulwatson8809]

@@SiliconCurtain Ghost of Prigozhin knocking on bunker door, loaf of bread in hand: "Did someone order a palianitsyia?"

[@paulwatson8809]

Recreate scene from Downfall where Hitler goes apoplectic substituting Putin in a fit of rage because Zelinsky went diving off Crimea and found REAL ancient artifacts.

[@paulwatson8809]

Ghostwritten by Mark Galleotti of course

[@paulstewart4195]

I’m sorry puppets says someone who supports a country though not for much longer that is totally owned by Washington and Black Rock who’s Neo Nazi elite are allowed to steal half the money as long as ordinary Ukrainians are forced to die for hedge funds and Neo liberal ideology that has now as slwsys dead ended. Ukrainenato will be lucky if Russia allies it even to be a western Ukrainian Nazi rump🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🤣🤣

[@veronicamifsud9646]

Thank you Jonathon & Galleotti.

[@CindySorenson-r4m]

With all your shows flaws, I still love your show!

[@Brendanno100]

Great to have you full time on the channel, you do a great job

[@peterbrown-q4n]

Mark your presentations are so informative and interesting

[@DarkestAlice]

Thank you, Jonathan and Mark Galeotti, for another wonderful discussion. 🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

[@AlanSari2714]

Great interview

[@coopoylozenge5964]

Excellent analysis across a range of related topics.

[@LR-jk2jk]

25min: real insight, thank you.

[@stevenjohns-savage7024]

Thanks guys 😄. Wild berries 🤔. I've heard that name before

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

" Saddam Putsein the Great Loser" is rapidly sending Mongol - Muscovite empire back to 15c borders .

[@AnnaSibirskaja]

Why stop there? Rus should get back to where it came from. Native peoples of Baltia, Parma, Urals, Siberia, Altay, Mongolia and Far East should be free from Slavs and their Rus masters.

[@sunnypedaal]

thanks 👍🌞

[@oliverkellogg9818]

Thanks!

[@ScottStentenFilms]

those last few minutes were incredible,,,, well said

[@jakobstraus9842]

My fav speakers on Ukraine matters.

[@danh9442]

Great work - thanks for

[@mryouben]

Tx prof galeoti

[@LarsConway-zt3hi]

Thanks!

[@thesilkpainter]

A hahahaha!!!! Repayment in mandarins… he assumes the fruits not the imperial bureaucrats! So good!😁

[@SiliconCurtain]

😁

[@AlanSari2714]

Good on you

[@aaronlea9559]

Quite like the ramble, many thanks

[@erichert1001]

Yes, every country works for its own benefit, the important question though is whether they do so with a zero-sum or a win-win mentality.

[@johangalician620]

Always great to have this particular guest tame the host's (not sure of his name) wild-eyed takes. :)

[@ruthwolfer4154]

Was really interesting in many details !

[@paulwatson8809]

Wildberries fight = Bonnie vs Clyde. Bonnie should enlist Shoigu as her proxy against Kadyrov.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

lol

[@guido_aka_guy]

The real result was the Chechnians won the 2nd Chechnya war they were clever and let the Russians keep their face.

[@christineschafer5282]

Once again a wealth of information which I could follow easily and I must also say (with a guilty feeling) it was quite "entertaining " . . . . and I might add for me it is always an English language lessen too. Thank You

[@dka618]

nice!

[@migproductions4045]

Like at the end? I'll just go ahead and like it right now! 😀

[@DenisMaksymowicz]

Excellent interview!

[@normm1619]

The interesting thing about Russia….we often think of smallish (geographically) countries like the UK, France, Japan, etc., as being the dominant city, with a country being attached….yet Russia has to be the largest country (both population and geographically) that is so dominated by one city…

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

But the city in Muscovia is going bankrupt... they know it, are freaking out and doubling down on violence. Buying weapons instead of producing and exporting them, prices of oil going down, their rafineries busted, importing refined fuel and everything because everybody is either dead of in the war machine... lol Muscovia is going down.

[@paulstewart4195]

And your point like this channel. There isn’t one🤡

[@normm1619]

@@paulstewart4195 huh?

[@mariansaines5021]

Contributed for the film from 🇦🇺

[@davidkirkham3616]

It is reported that the US is able to veto storm shadow deployment because the missile contains certain American hardware or software. What is stopping Ukraine reverse engineering these components and fitting them instead of the USA ones

[@guido_aka_guy]

They are much faster designing brand new weapons that they have 100% Control of.

[@elainekarlsson8384]

One of the best voices on how to try and understand the russian thinking. Thanks Jonathan for having Mark on ❤⚘ Looking forward to next time 😊

[@ИльяРезников-н8з]

West has already done some much in the realm of movies and videogames with all those negative depictions in Rambo 3, Red Dawn, Call of Duty, etc. More than enough to annoy Russian folk, thank you very much... Way to go.

[@ninemoonplanet]

I have to argue with Mark when it comes to the "West" being willing to "allow" Ukraine to lose, territory or otherwise to keep the Russian government (Puddin' et al) from falling. That's an unacceptable outcome for the Ukranian people, the Baltics States and certainly not an outcome that will keep Russia contained or satisfied. Why my disagreement? The simple understanding of what international laws, humanitarian and sovereignty, especially. If we in the collective West abrogate our own responsibility, our own standards, then we're the weakened countries, along with essentially shrugging away more behaviour like Russia has shown. No. This is definitely NOT acceptable.

[@paulstewart4195]

Our own standards. Do you mean threats invasion regime change and blackmail or democracy until it’s the wrong result. Why are we allowed to have spheres of influence thousands of miles away but Russia can’t on her own borders. Let’s post some Chinese troops on the Scottish Borders. Exactly. Talking nonsense in fact my 5 year old has more grasp of reality. Time to grow up chum

[@Michael.Freeman]

❤

[@carlbln361]

very convincing point why the USA are hesitant with certain rockets. thanks for sharing your insights

[@tomwende5529]

Wow. When a divorce results in a shootout. I empathize. Dear god, I get it.

[@AirB-101]

Thank you! An excellent interview!!! I would give as counterexamples to that "ru gangsta economy" the stories in Central and Eastern Europe of companies such as Allegro and CCC and (soon) Zabka to enter Warsaw's stock market! Most were created within a world with massive capitals, all had "big money stories" behind them yet... All have had a transition into the open market (read stock market) rather... "boring" (read a la wall street)... My point is, ru is just not there! We cannot talk about ru and expect from ru the same as we do with countries based on the rule of law!

[@DashieDe]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="3431">57:11</a> I would argue that Yashin has no less charisma then Navalny, but he is also alive and free (thanks to US and Germany)

[@paulstewart4195]

Navaly another Neo Nazi -have you actually read anything he has written thought not-on the CIA pay roll 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kentl7228]

The lack of concern that the Kremlin tries to convey, for the Ukrainian occupation of large parts of Kursk implies that they either don't care to propagandise that Ukraine is brutal and torturous to the people that they have control of, or that they do not think that the Ukrainians actually do immoral things to those people.

[@MartinSeidel-i7f]

"had a bit of a shootout" 😅

[@georgeallcorn6302]

The U.S. seems quite happy to see Russia exhaust itself in this blunderingly stupid war ,

[@arikahn3907]

I don’t agree that we did harm in the 1990s. We didn’t owe USSR nor Russia anything. They dug their own grave and some in the west may have been opportunistic but that’s freedom. The west, if anything, was too supportive and forgave too much - again, not an act of harm.

[@paulstewart4195]

Another cretin living in an alternative universe. The aware no why America and its western poodles hate Putin. They wanted another alcoholic Yeltsin so they could rape Russia of all its natural resources like the global south and so the hedge funds could move in.didnt work out at all did it and with the global south lead by China and Russia on the move it’s over for the West .Too kind and understanding.Clown🤡🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🇷🇺.

[@coopoylozenge5964]

Agreed. The huge amount of Western aid and investment that flowed into Russia was a complete and utter waste. I was there to see how it was squandered and misappropriated.

[@AdrianBoyko]

What’s sitting on his left shoulder that they don’t want us to see? 🤔

[@abodabalo]

Either a parrot which prefers to stay anonymous, or the microphone which is in front :)

[@joshadams8761]

Possibly a raven on holiday from the Tower? 😅

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

@@joshadams8761 Forevermore

[@samedwards6683]

Slava Ukraini. Heroyam Slava. 💙💛

[@builderbob3149]

👍

[@The_ZeroLine]

Stop stating 40% is the total for mil spending in the federal budget. It’s 70% min. w/ 30% of the budget “classified” (which = defense, the soldiers being signed for $$$ paid for at the regional level rather the federal level and there are endless expenses that have resulted from the war that are not designated as defense spending, which include repairing damaged infrastructure, medical care and subsidies for maimed soldiers, etc.

[@hrvojesvetec3058]

Mark is bit all over the place,hard to follow sometimes i reckon..these "experts" guessing right and left..mark my words,Pokrovsk/Myrnohrad is not easy,not a walk in the park..keep in mind how hard it was to take Bachmut,Vulhedar..tokk many moths,lot of casualties and lost equipment..Pokrovsk/Myrnohrad is much bigger,pre war population 110.000-115.000..its a much bigger area,gonna take shit load of men,equipment,time and effort..and Russia WILL lose LOTS and LOTS of men and resources taking that place..hopefully Ukrainians can stop them "trap" them there🙏🙏but never know,its a LOT up to Ukrainians have something to defend them self with,something to fight back with.🙏..Stay strong Ukraine!..Stay united,sharp and never give up defending/fighting for your people,country and freedom.Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇸🇪👍💯

[@charlesemond7916]

We need better Battery R&D because right now the methods of storing energy is at best, a little risky.

[@daledykes9253]

Sounds like normal day in Chicago.

[@walter3433]

'Had a bit of a shootout' The English are good at understating

[@milesnixon9554]

At least a Huggy Bear Russia would rock (they were a band).

[@Joe_1sr9]

First time in history that it’s accepted for one invading country to bomb them but not the other way around… America has fallen for this fallacy…

[@2bb-2]

Liking a video saves it in the liked videos playlist. I don't fill that playlist with videos from people who ask for likes. Liked videos are videos that proved themselves likeable because of their content. Not videos that have people asking for likes in them. When will you all stop shilling for likes and subs? You put out good content, you get subs. Period. Never a need to ask for them if your content is legit.

[@LR-jk2jk]

Gangland 101. And they call themselves civilized.

[@The_ZeroLine]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1665">27:45</a> - You’re the one who is right in this case about why authorization is continued to be put off: they can’t risk a Russian reaction that hurts their election. MG is right that a delay is worth it for Ukraine to ensure Trump is given any additional help.

[@mryouben]

Greetings to putlers trollbotboys

[@paulstewart4195]

Thank you for the welcome from the supporters of the Neo Nazi gangsters in Kiev busy stealing our money

[@blight4216]

My guts are screaming when I listen to this guy. Is he validated? Seems sus.

[@coopoylozenge5964]

Yep. Validated by close academic rigor.

[@charlesemond7916]

I don't think the effects of HELENE are CG productions for the rest of the world to have sympathy! The rest of the world is seeing the same thing in various ways.

[@charlesemond7916]

As far as Kursk, the land is definitely a bargaining chip. the repulsion of the Russians from Crimea is totally dependant in the retaining that land. They need to hold on to it.

[@justnotg00d]

I still like the video from someone that said basically, who are we afraid of? A country that does not have toilets? ha ha