Mark Galeotti - The Fall, Rise & Fall of One of the Most Dangerous Warlords in Russia and the World.

[@DarkestAlice]

Thank you, Jonathan and Mark Galeotti, for your conversation. 🇺🇦 Перемоги і миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

[@izbr661]

Yes

[@normandduern2413]

Every moment listening to Mr. Galeotti is time well spent. Clear, lucid , logical, superbly well informed, nuanced. Looking forward to reading him. Slava Ukraine.

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@wlhjr77]

He is an outstanding resource

[@susansprague7304]

I clicked on this one so fast, I gave my laptop whiplash! Thanks Jonathan and Mark.

[@SiliconCurtain]

😄👍👍👍

[@CharlieNordlinger]

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[@treesetc3305]

The Silicon Curtain is attracting absolute top shelf guests! 🇺🇦

[@j.dunlop8295]

4 years, I've been saying, who'd ever thought a pretend communist, but real dictatorship would be so horrible at capitalism?😅 Greedy, corrupt government versus the citizens actually truly matter (Pitin's truly magnificent at propaganda and firewalls!) 🎉 Salute!😅 💩

[@VoidAspect]

Jonathan is smashing these interviews, Mark Galeotti is one of my favourite Russia experts

[@TheWardBond]

He's the best!

[@djparn007]

Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

[@tornado-s-2012]

Слаба урина

[@brendansparks1511]

@@tornado-s-2012 Putin troll.

[@NyPer920]

Thank you Jonathan, always enjoy listening to Prof Galeotti.

[@FPoP1911]

So auto caption accidentally created the cursed series of words that are "You can eat pirgozhin" at the beginning. Oh and last video got me here, this video got me subbed.

[@ShireLeaf]

Gravitating so far! Love the curtains up!

[@paularivero1878]

Real pleasure to listen to proffesor Marc Galeotti❤❤

[@sallywilton2236]

I’ve just finished the book. Many thanks Mark for getting this account published so quickly.

[@agustinussiahaan6669]

Thanks, Jonathan and Mark. Prigozhin syndrome referred to a personality of a strong courage but suddenly lost it at the point very close to his success.

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@oldworldpatriot8920]

He wasn’t close to success,if his convoy had pushed past Voronezh towards Moscow it would’ve gotten hit with a low yield tactical nuclear strike. Wagner bloggers,ones that are deeply connected and in their loop reported Putin gave Yevgheni an ultimatum;return back to their bases and stand down,or face a tactical nuclear strike. It would’ve had no triggering effect against NATO as Russia is allowed to nuke itself and would’ve given the world the shock factor that Putin is serious about using them. Prigozhin knew that and decided to back off.

[@jberkeley1195]

Thanks Jonathan & mark 👍Prigozhin from chef to crispy bacon 🥓💀 this is the title of prigozhins autobiography 😂🤣😂 Slava ukraini 🔱💪🇺🇦🇨🇵🇺🇸🇬🇧✌️

[@ItsMe_Hello_People]

Thank you Jonathan. Keep up the good work! 💙💛

[@andrewcsalmon]

Massive black hole in what should have been a promising chat. While Prigozhin's formative experiences and Putin's state are no doubt interesting, Prigozhin's claim to fame is - per the headline of this clip - his role as a warlord. On that matter, we get nothing. How did a criminal and catering entrepreneur with zero miliitary or GRU experience take on some kind of leadership role in a mercenary organization largely staffed by ex-elite military personnel? What exactly was that leadership role? Funding and contacts - or something more? Why did his relationship with the MOD falter so badly while his troops were making gains in Bakhmut? What was his relationship with Dmitri Utkin, the very dangerous ex-GRU Spetznaz colonel who supposely founded Wagner, and who was killed in the same plane? Etc, etc, etc.

[@MDCDiGiPiCs]

A wonderful chat, thanks for doing this to both of you.

[@jonno27]

Prigozhin was a deeply unpleasant person, but his story tells a lot about how Russia functions.

[@Sylvie_M]

Always enlightening! Thanks J.

[@vrencan9735]

Good one, Jonathan 👍

[@williamgill5286]

theres quite a few things that didnt make sense like why did he stop and why was he hanging around moscow flying his plane around near there like he wasnt in danger when even we knew they were going to be after him so surely he would have known too. So i had the thought that his march to moscow was just a ruse that putin was in on so they could draw out any potential opposition/revolutionaries or for whatever alternative reason like maybe making it appear there were internal issues or something idk

[@CarolynAcosta-mw2dl]

Fascinating, thanks!

[@johncromwell2529]

Thanks guys Love your podcast!

[@jackcuppen8393]

Thanks!

[@ИванСмирнов-п8ы]

Спасибо, интересное интервью. Марк очень хорошо знает Россию со всеми нюансами.

[@SiliconCurtain]

Спасибо! 🙏

[@draganjagodic4056]

As ever, first "like" than watch and listen. Always happy to see Mark as Your guest dear Jonathan.

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍 glad he’s a favourite guest of yours too

[@susylove7739]

Thanks. Mark always fantastic.

[@Hochspitz]

🇦🇺💙💛✌ 🇺🇦 I miss Priggo's rants. Solyvev makes for a poor second.

[@ericwillis777]

Another great interview, thanks to both of you for sharing these insights.

[@suethompson1736]

Thank you both! Very insightful! Slava Ukraini ❤❤

[@shaunhughes7245]

Really enjoyed this conversation and look forward to the book

[@richardjohnson3463]

A fascinating analysis with an outstanding guest. Thank you Johnathan

[@Heavy_Distortion]

Awesome episode. Mark never disappoints!

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@philippajoy4300]

If dignity is a currency, we should perhaps make fun of Putin as we did of Hitler and the top Nazis.

[@joshuaschmude7187]

Great show! Mark is a very insightful guest.

[@Odysseus863]

Thanks Sire I read all his books ..❤excellent 🎉

[@fridrekr7510]

I wonder whether the Wagner brand "Grey Zone" is also a reference to the prison system (which is apparently also referred to as "the zone") and not just a reference to hybrid warfare.

[@patricicoker5547]

Thanks

[@SiliconCurtain]

Thanks!

[@jasonjorawsky1744]

Great interview Jonathan!

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@markb8468]

First! Another excellent guest Jonathan. I was looking forward to this one.

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍 I found the conversation captivating!

[@RoseburgZen]

Good stuff as usual. Insightful and relevant as usual.

[@GloriaHoulihan]

Thank you for your conversation Jonathan and Mark. Proghozin is irrelevant now. Who's going to be next?

[@09csr]

Prigozhin is dead, but hardly irrelevant, at least in terms of legacy. He showed the world just how fragile Putin's hold on Russia actually can be in some regards. The Russian people, and sometimes sections of the army, just let him go on with his merry men on their jolly roadtrip to Moscow. I think people will remember that.

[@larsrons7937]

Captivating conversation. Fascinating analysis/ dive into Prigozhin (and Prigozhin's own dive from his way up). Thanks for inviting Marc Galeotti, one I always enjoy listening to. Gerasimov, I wouldn't call him that incompetent. I agree that as far as the russian display on the battlefield he has been catastrophic, but in the broader spectrum, with the hybrid warfare (incl. the internet trolls) I'd argue he's be quite successful, unfortunately. I'd like to get rid of Gerasimov.

[@HughFromAlice]

Mark has a wonderful knack of turning what could be rather turgid, if erudite, political analysis into a ripping yarn that I find fascinating! Great to see how your channel has grown in importance and influence. The number of views has increased hugely since the early days (from just a few hundred per video). Hard work, a clear vision and persistence! Nice work 🙂

[@vanityfair9022]

Tatiana Todorova. Chicago. Prigodzin is alive, and Putin died on October 26, 2023.

[@1Rene9Night5cart0]

I always refer to the current Genocidal Kremlin mafia boss as Vlad the Terrible.

[@johnwalsh4857]

just finished Mark's latest book on Prigozhin and I have to say ITS EXCELLENT, listened to it on Audible at least three times, and its just excellent, I do suspect after the war is over , we will get more info on Prigo mr. Clean wannabe in the future and a more detailed book on Prigozhin will be written but for now this is jsut excellent. and Yes I think Putin's support in the Russian gov and mlitary is quite low, judging by the way no one tried to stop Prigo from his march to Moscow. I think the Russian elites reallyi want a way out, and is banking on Trump to win in 2024, if Biden wins, all hell will break loose in the Kremlin, I can see 2025 being the year the war ends with Putin suddenly dying of natural causes and war ending with a total Russian withdrawal from ukraine and massive Russian blame game on Putin. The Russian elites will cut their losses with Putin and end the war.

[@catherineandpaulfuters2523]

Thank you for your coverage and insights 🇪🇺🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇦🇬🇧

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@christinamuzzu6414]

Thank you for being so consistent in featuring so many varied Ukrainian guests and such a wide range of high-caliber Ukraine-supporting voices like this one. I am sure the trolls are pulling their vodka-smeared hairs out :-).

[@markopinteric]

To what extent can Prigozin's march to Moscow be compared with Mussolini's march to Rome? Neither wanted to eliminate the top man, but get rid of the competition? Only Victor Emmanuel lost his nerve and Putin didn't?

[@terjeoseberg990]

I believe that Prigozhin could have taken Moscow with 2,000 soldiers, because the people were on his side. I believe that’s what threatened Putin.

[@ebrim5013]

I think it’s true that he didn’t have to attack the city in a traditional military way. There was very little resistance. In that sort of operation it’s less about “capturing the city” and more about being able to move through it and attack the regime itself unimpeded by the civil/military structure. I’m still not sure he could have succeeded with it but not in the traditional military sense of capturing a massive city block by block.

[@miskaknapek]

thanks for another great episode! good going Mark and Jonathan! you both deserve more followers ;)

[@ekim000]

Fantastic interview.

[@neilhatton1612]

A real treat, thank you.

[@sumiland6445]

💛💙💜💙💛 here I am! Listening uninterrupted 😊 🇺🇦 🌏 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

[@sammains]

I love you insights and Ur deep dive you do with guest s ..I would love to see you interview Stephen kotin I love listening to him he explains things in a very understanding way ..he s has fascinating insights he written 3 books on stalin ..just a thought Johnathan

[@Warbeaver]

Really interesting, well done.

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@Scaleyback317]

Been calling Putin TSAR PUTRID for the last couple of years with LAVATORYOV as his Robin in ruling RUSSHITSTAINIA. Yes, I know vulgar and childish in the extreme but it please me and I can justifiably and provably claim to a vulgar child in his 70's Galeotti can make the alphabet seem interesting - great choice as a guest.

[@tutts999]

I never miss any interview involving Mark. Excellent watch.

[@TheLxjp]

Keep up the good work, Johnatan

[@alexanderSydneyOz]

Prigozhin's death was so much the result of willful stupidity, that it might just as well be called suicide. Bizarre, but so Russian

[@Canadian_Skeptical]

Excellent episode.

[@Larry-perkins]

The book was such a disappointment. I learned absolutely nothing new about the Wagner mutiny or his assassination. Surely that's the point of writing a book about Prigozhin. Galeotti added nothing to what the public already knows

[@sumiland6445]

💛💙💜💙💛 listening again ... uninterrupted! 😊 🇺🇦 🌏 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

[@GeneralGayJay]

I envy the students that have the honour to listen to Galeotti in real.

[@asfafasdad384]

pretty good analytics, but you forget to mention Prigozin was in charge of informational borfarms and he used short videos from phone so the population of russia greeted him /supported on his way to moscow, thats the main thing that allowed him to go with 2000 men so far into russia from the front.

[@ActFast]

Finished the book last weekend. It was a pithy page turner. 📖

[@EdwardRLyons]

I think Galeotti is correct in his assessment that in future histories of Putinism, Prigozhin will be a comparatively minor figure, perhaps even just a footnote. Just as other mercenaries of the past have largely faded from history. He stands tall today mainly because of his presence on and use of social media, but we all see how quickly such fads and trends are forgotten, since they lack certain essential elements - substance and relevance.

[@CurtOntheRadio]

thanks! rewarding talk, as ever.

[@bobouzala]

Thank you Mr. Galeotti!!Educational and Entertaining, how could it not be when talking about Prigozhin! “In the court of the Thief King”, you’re on fire Jonathan!! Thank you!

[@elenakorchuganova7605]

i live in russia and for the last 10 years or so i followed all the news to understand whats going on. I had to figure out sources of information, learn to spot propaganda. And now i understand that i have no idea what's going on in other countries, it would just take so much time. And it always amazes me how some people from outside can undestand politics in Russia so well.

[@Paulus8765]

Mark Galeotti is one of the best commentators on Russia. He says that Putin and friends looked down on Prigozhin. From Kristaps Andrejsons of The Eastern Border I understand that Prigozhin was actually far superior culturally and more importantly as a real ex-convict. This is crucial in a mafia state and Putin clearly could not match Prigozhin's use of prison language. He had to feign disdain for Prigozhin, knowing him to be of a higher class.

[@messrsandersonco5985]

Insightful. T'y.

[@normm1619]

One issue - Mark still talks about Prigozhin in the current/present tense much of the time….. I believe it is safe to say ‘past tense’ is most accurate at this point…

[@SiliconCurtain]

He’s definitely gone - six feet under, helping to nourish sunflowers 🌻

[@deanejoyce5393]

Loved this 🙌

[@Dandelionfleur]

Thanks, I learned a lot!

[@genier7829]

Really interesting

[@andyzx9682]

fascinating ... i enjoyed that

[@paulkelson8020]

They only speak about already well known information, not the real deep horrific deeds that were perpetrated 😢

[@longandshort6639]

I have hear it claimed that Prigozhin stopped his thunder run to Moscow when the FSB seized all of his immediate family and held them hostage.

[@iztokfajfar9766]

Gerasimov!!!!

[@oscarmora4602]

Interesting

[@traceystones5876]

I always thought that he knew they couldn’t win and he needed a way out or die there

[@Karvanensetä]

The thing with Shoigu verses Prigoshin is that Shoigu was trying to fight the nazis in Ukraine.

[@pashakdescilly7517]

Shoigu brought the Nazis into Ukraine. As an elderly Ukrainian village woman demonstrated when a young Russian soldier asked her how to find the Nazis - she passed him a mirror.

[@BooleanDisorder]

Galeotti is my drug!

[@bo2web]

KZbin commercial algorithm gives Mafia City... LOL

[@MCSonixx]

🇺🇦⚘️🇺🇦⚘️🇺🇦⚘️🇺🇦⚘️

[@sergebourque6239]

Il semble bien renseigné le gars , on comprend les événements et les liens logiques qu'il fait avec d'autres situations. Prégogine ... sa mère était médecin ... son père ingénieur ... il n'était pas de taille à faire de la prison ... il s'est construit une illusion, il l'a habité comme une autre identité, il a été chassé de cette identité ... je réécoute le truc ...

[@mryouben]

Tx

[@tananga_studio]

🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇲

[@marcussassan]

🙏

[@raraavis7782]

It's a fascinating story. The kind of story where one wishes, it was made up...but fascinating nonetheless.

[@SeanZuljan]

If Putin kicked in 100 Billion for the war effort he would struggle to retire on the 150 Billion he would have left

[@Gooddeeds023]

👍

[@mattmccaughen7371]

Is it wrong to be pro ukrainian and miss prigozhin at the same time?

[@TB-zf7we]

Prigozhin got the best Defenestration off all of Putler's perceived enemies...no falling out of a 3rd story window for this ruZZian superstar, no he has to fall out of the sky from 10K feet like the rock-star he thought he was.

[@jberkeley1195]

Prigozhin good at spotting gaps in the market but not so good at spotting bombs 💣 on planes ✈️💥🔥😂😂

[@Thelostgoldhunters]

All the titles are superfluous, one word "воры" (thieves) ,covers them all.

[@marksynnot6246]

I thought wagner were going to take revenge on putin

[@blablabla250]

I thought this podcast should have been a platform for Ukrainian and Ukraine-supporting voices. Why is this vatnik featured here? Everytime he speaks on Ukraine, it's like hearing Lavrov speak. Plus, why on earth would anyone still want to talk about Prigozhin??!

[@friedrichtraffelet8594]

And prigoschin had a family

[@AndrewNorris-tk1vo]

He fell from about 28000 feet.