Mark Is our Earliest Jesus Story--How We Know and Why it Matters!

The so-called Priority of Mark, that is, the idea that Mark wrote first, and was then used as a source by Matthew, Luke, and even John and the Gospel of Peter, is not just an academic armchair issue. It is perhaps the most significant realization one can reach in understanding how the Jesus Story unfolded.
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[@vivec710]

Dr. Tabor. You an Barbra Theide were my favorite professors at UNCC. To this day i think about both of yall. Helped me out when my mom passed. Can never and will never forget yall. 3 semesters with you and 3 with her. Thanks for being there for me

[@vivec710]

Bottom of my heart thanks

[@riley02192012]

Dr. Tabor, you are 100% a class act. You have the highest level of integrity 👏. I have been a fan of you, your books, and your work for many, many years now. Thank you.

[@kuettler]

Puts a whole new meaning on "missing the Mark".

[@johnnybravo6951]

9minutes in and I'm already hooked. Really, really thought-provoking. Salaam to you and your family uncle❤️ from Cape Town, South Africa 🇿🇦

[@delfimoliveira8883]

Mark reads like a detective story. Where the autor and the reader knows what happened and who did it but the characters only found in the end The Greek is not the best of the NT and the autor seems to not know the Hebrew Bible like it would be expected in a Jew but it's an amazing piece of ancient literature

[@davidkeller6156]

From what I understand the gospel writers were using the Septuagint.

[@delfimoliveira8883]

@@davidkeller6156 But Mark misquote both

[@davidfrisken1617]

@@delfimoliveira8883 That happens when you are making stuff up.

[@robinharwood5044]

He’s not too good at geography, either.

[@garlandjones7709]

All the gospels read like that. It's following how all Hebrew narrative stories work showing ironies where many truths and understandings are only in hindsight.

[@drgeorgek]

I’m a huge and long term Bart Ehrman fan but Dr Tabor takes it to a new and different level. Just seriously impressive…. He really has spat in my eyes and made me see the obvious…

[@Isaac5123]

They are both scholars

[@julianhe7348]

​@@Isaac5123we know that

[@Isaac5123]

@@julianhe7348 have you got too much time on yr hands?

[@julianhe7348]

@@Isaac5123 Interesting that you say that. We all know they are both scholars. Still you're trying to school us about it. Must be you are the one having too much time.

[@Ghost_bros]

He spit on your eyes?

[@suzybailey-koubti8342]

Thank you so much, Dr Tabor ❤

[@slimdusty6328]

Love your channel thanks Dr James Tabor. I enjoy to learn more . And i feel your channel is one of the very best. Thanks so much. All the best with everything !

[@emmapinn5216]

I love thr background in Tabor's videos. A classic professor's setting, undecorated and completely dedicated to scholarship, what with piles of books around

[@wontedmiddle]

he doesnt sound likes hes a Christian, what is he

[@kencreten7308]

I find that this person is a very good interviewer.

[@jennyhoover9304]

Thank you Patrick for your thoughts and insights . Today’s lesson was meant for me. I really need to “clean house” and let go of the surplus of items that have no meaning to anyone but me.

[@anthonyrichardgravallese8489]

Thank you James

[@drrbrt]

The Coptic Orthodox Church has always said this, of course cherishing the Gospel of John the most.

[@renatemocza7195]

It is said, that the Coptic Orthodox Church goes back to Mark around 50 AD.

[@integrationalpolytheism]

I'm loving how you continue to add value to this course with these additional appearances with new angles.

[@geraldmeehan8942]

I wish I could afford course but too many children/grandchildren to support. I watched video on HV. I studied western religion at Indiana U. I understand one of your proteges is teaching there now.

[@rainbowkrampus]

Someone arguing Luke being first is just weird. It is so clearly making apologetics in response to criticisms of Matthew while borrowing the apologetics Matthew already came up with in response to Mark. I haven't seen the argument so I can't really say. But I can't help but think that it would be less complicated and more convoluted. It'd be interesting to hear out if nothing else. Personally I think Mark being first makes a whole lot of sense and it would take more than just an argument to unseat its position.

[@garlandjones7709]

You'd benefit greatly looking into it, if for nothing more than gaining insights the scholars are seeing to make their arguments. Fun stuff.

[@ObjectiveEthics]

Tabor's interviews on the History Valley Channel are excellent.

[@nowaout8014]

Jesus' teachings is what he gave us to live here on earth with each other..I never hear his teachings being discussed..this is a great tragedy

[@JeannieSoko]

you must be a muslim to have this type of mentality.

[@jdaze1]

I agree. The words of Jesus are rarely taught in full in churches today. Nor repentance and overcoming sins that cause eternal death. Its all a bunch feel good, worthless Rah Rah baloney. I stopped attending in 2000 and started reading the Bible for myself. Ill NEVER go back.

[@JeannieSoko]

jadaze1 that is vacuous argument that jesus never taught in churches, there were NO churches in the time of jesus, except synonagues or preaching in the streets. The idea of sin causing eternal death is because our own bad desires and unethical behavior we live for a short period, that's the idea of sin causing eternal death. Jesus had taught repentance From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 4:17 I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance. (Luke 5:32) Unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. (Luke 13:3, 5) These are all examples that Jesus taught repentance.

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

How do we really know what Jesus taught? *"Neither the evangelists nor their first readers engaged in historical analysis. Their aim was to confirm Christian faith (Lk. 1.4; Jn. 20.31). Scholars generally agree that the Gospels were written forty to sixty years after the death of Jesus. They thus do not present eyewitness or contemporary accounts of Jesus’ life and teachings.* Unfortunately, much of the general public is not familiar with scholarly resources like the one quoted above; instead, Christian apologists often put out a lot of material, such as The Case For Christ, targeted toward lay audiences, who are not familiar with scholarly methods, in order to argue that the Gospels are the eyewitness testimonies of either Jesus’ disciples or their attendants. *The mainstream scholarly view is that the Gospels are anonymous works, written in a different language than that of Jesus, in distant lands, after a substantial gap of time, by unknown persons, compiling, redacting, and inventing various traditions, in order to provide a narrative of Christianity’s central figure-Jesus Christ-to confirm the faith of their communities."* *As scholarly sources like the Oxford Annotated Bible note, the Gospels are not historical works (even if they contain some historical kernels).* *"Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* Also, look up: *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"* *"How Did The Gospel Writers Know? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Yes, the Four Gospels Were Originally Anonymous: Part 1 - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Are Stories in the Bible Influenced by Popular Greco-Roman Literature? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Gospels Not Written By Matthew, Mark, Luke or John - The Church Of Truth"*

[@JeannieSoko]

@@epicofgilgamesh9964 the gospel of Mark is the oldest gospel, it was written 20 years after the death of Jesus, it is not a CENTURY ago. Oral tradition was first passed on before it was written, most biblical scholars say this, so what is your excuse for not making it valid if it is not a century ago, and it was first passed on orally??

[@LevaISanningen]

Jesus is "the scapegoat". A person who lowers himself to make us look like higher standing creatures, worthy of life.

[@Thesortvokter]

Give me a break. Hundreds of thousands died in his bloodied name. If he was divine he would have foreseen this and kept his mouth shut or changed tactics. Jesus - nothing but a failure.

[@LevaISanningen]

@@Thesortvokter . You don't understand what I say. Jesus is anyone you love to hate. Every man or woman you laugh at and enjoy talking evil about. That is your true saviour. People you can tower over and humiliate.

[@Thesortvokter]

@@LevaISanningen What bullshit.

[@LevaISanningen]

@@Thesortvokter No, that is a human need. The Romans had the games and horrible punishment of criminals as entertainment. Then witch burnings and beheadings. And today you spend plenty of time to enjoy crime shows and news and violence on TV. All to save you from anguish. You eat pizza and burgers to escape hunger. You view criminals to escape anguish. It is true. Any psychologist can tell you.

[@Thesortvokter]

@@LevaISanningen Yeah, the witches were slaughtered in Jesus' name, without him being divine enough to do anything about it. What a wanker and what a satanic legacy he left us.

[@thomasrhodes5013]

Matthew's handling of Judas, as compared to how John deals with the subject, is startling.

[@atifbangash]

I got to know Mark & James thru you. I really enjoyed knowing about them via your outlook.

[@sftommy01]

Some of the Gospels would seem to incorporate non-Christian traditions. If Mark is first, Matthew was well read enough to know of them and feel the need to add them to "jazz-up" Mark's story. Among the sources for the gospels should be listed those likely non-Chrisitan traditions.

[@bugzyhardrada3168]

Lol all christian traditions have non christian origins....so by your logic, shouldn't we just credit everything christian as non christian, thats, if we want to be technically correct and honest with ourselves....

[@pamelamarek2309]

Thank you 🪔

[@georgesparks7833]

Wow that was intense. You take away the Virgin birth and also the resurrection. But was n't this also common in the Roman world? For instance, how Jesus turns the water into wine. Typical also of the Roman deity .I wonder how much of the gospels and the Epistles are structured from Hellenistic and Roman culture. I really enjoyed this. Thank you very much.

[@saidzouhri8524]

The josephan passage is clear: john the baptist taught that baptism was not for forgiveness sins ,but only for the purification of the body.

[@Allothersweretakenn]

The 5 gospels. Great book check it out it is a a collection of Jesus teaching or at least a collection of what would have most likely been a collection of his actual teachings

[@mattandkim17]

Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.

[@ironmikehallowween]

Very well done sir. Thank you

[@winniethuo9736]

10:22 Mythvision podcast as a vehicle 🚖 ❤🎉

[@420JRMan]

¿’93? Well, I would have said either "'92" or after Juice & Kato ran-away from pigs" '93; loss of Left-Eye cut's I deeper.

[@knows_too_much]

At 56:50 you say there is alot of persecution of the Jesus movement by the Pharisees in the 80's. There is no evidence for this, so what is the basis for this claim?

[@websitemartian]

the death of james? thrown off a building ?

[@geraldmeehan8942]

Saw you on HV,, awesome show awesome channel

[@arvis614]

hat is. Hv. Being tech poor, and no rv for a while found you tube, now have a subscription to bar

[@norabang3153]

I heard that the Vatican has the original gospel of Marc , which is different from the Bible version. How can I get that? Anyone knows?

[@MitchellRose-gi2ln]

Could Mark have been written in the second century? If not, why.

[@jonathonjubb6626]

Take the course, take the course.... How many more times? He's not stopped after ten minutes...

[@BushcraftingBogan]

Im curious as to why Marcion did not choose Mark over his version of Luke. Any thoughts?

[@conradbulos6164]

Just to remind Dr. Tabor and viewers, gospel parallels are separated by decades, not centuries but decades,, with Mark being written first at around 70 AD, followed by Matthew around 80 AD, then Like around 90 plus AD, finally John around 100 to 110 AD To put them side by side as if written at the same time gives the wrong impression.

[@wontedmiddle]

he doesnt sound likes hes a Christian, what is he?

[@wontedmiddle]

if mark is 70 ad then when are puals? im sure his came first

[@robinharwood5044]

Tiny point. The thumbnail for this video looks like P52, which is John, not Mark.

[@Robert_L_Peters]

Thank you

[@evangelicalsnever-lie9792]

Fantastic.

[@alexklemens6005]

If the Q source is a collection of Jesus sayings wouldn’t that necessarily mean there was a story of Jesus before Q was written. You’d think for people to care enough to wrote down his sayings they’d care even more to write his story first

[@EXISTENCE1891]

What amazes me is that there are any writings of any sort at all at this time. the Jewish writers were living in land which was occupied by the Romans. If any manuscripts were discovered by the Romans the writers would have been imprisoned or worse

[@BobbyHill26]

This is an old comment, but in my mind it actually makes sense that the sayings are written first. The stories aren’t too big of a deal and you only need to get the gist of it to know what’s going on, but if you actually want to know what the guy was teaching, you want to know what he was saying and don’t want to miss a single word of it.

[@johnnybravo6951]

Peace be unto Palestinian Christians.

[@anthonyrichardgravallese8489]

How is Jerusalem

[@walterlahaye2128]

THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND THE CHURCH OF OUR LORD ARE ONE AND THE SAME

[@texaslocoman1]

Peter went to Mark's house after he was freed from prison by the angel. Makes sense Peter and young Mark were already good friends in 45 AD.

[@CarmenRizzo-pn1uw]

Scrolls in Tibet

[@dustyjukebox7707]

"..professing themselves to be wise..

[@stevenv6463]

I saw this recently on history valley.

[@JohnSmith-gm3kz]

May Allah bless you my friend

[@FriendwithNoName7]

LOL

[@websitemartian]

does islam know that jesus was jewish?

[@lisaking4291]

I'm pretty sad that, it isn't free, I am not well off, not affordable for me.

[@denisehorner8448]

Moi aussi, ma petite! 😢

[@jussikankinen9409]

Arent paul and mark writers 200 years after

[@3rz-rhymesreasonsandwritte437]

Sounds so interesting

[@pompeii357]

I hope to watch your movie

[@whiteashpiperwhiteashpiper5447]

What was the name of those who called themselves the POors?

[@pamelamarek2309]

I find secret Mark very interesting, part of the gospel removed. 🌀🌀

[@3r2w1c]

What was this Mark's motivation to have the first document? What are the possibilities. He knew Paul well. He was the messianic apocalyptic eschatological expert of the day. He didn't want to be found fighting against God. He knew the expounded testimonies already. He knew there was 100% failure rate for these movements. He had help from another contemporary of Paul, after he Paul was dead. Possible long term multigenerational purpose. So they could recognize the text themselves when they read it at the last generation. Deep calling unto deep. Gifts and callings of God are without repentance. They'll realize they know these deep truths because they own it. Could they be Gamliel and Barnabas? If I didn't understand how I knew I might say it's the flow that gives the tell. Recognizable literary uses. Hidden secret. Locations of hidden treasures and intact ancient scrolls. Speculation? Those guys were smarter than us and most believe the exact opposite. I wrote this comment before I started listening to the video. So you know I wasn't influenced by your teaching. Still a glass darkly, in part. All provable truths are his voice.

[@davidfrisken1617]

My guess is it as Justin Marytr claimed. The gospels were not important and were adventure stories that could be read if there was time because the simple folk like them.

[@garlandjones7709]

​@@davidfrisken1617can you provide a reference for that. I'm interested in reading the conversation

[@davidfrisken1617]

@@garlandjones7709 Search for “Memoirs of the Apostles”.

[@texaslocoman1]

The church assumes these evangelists lived to very old ages. The only confirmed old man was John who miraculously lived to 100 years old.

[@mooshei8165]

Did the Pope took the course?

[@CarmenRizzo-pn1uw]

Q sayings , eye witness account$

[@hevechvy]

Why does everyone just forget about John

[@FictionMission]

Dr. Tabor is very very close to understanding this: Major rituals come to Christianity through Mark's story, and not vice versa. (Baptism, Eucharist, Messiah, Crucifixion, Resurrection.) Also, no one, including Paul, can have visions of Jesus Christ, unless they know the Story of Mark. The story came first.

[@FictionMission]

@All About Britain So we are in agreement that he could have known! 😚

[@FictionMission]

@All About Britain Surely if he persecuted and converted to something, he had to know what it was. Surely he preserved some of their teachings in his own beliefs. The narrative cannot completely post-date Paul. He must know of Jesus before having visions of Jesus.

[@Isaac5123]

Yes look at Mark but don't consider the last 11 verses of chapter 16

[@walterlahaye2128]

REASONS WHY THE CHURCH OF CHRIST IS THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH 1. You can read about it in the New Testament. (MATTHEW 16:18; (ROMANS 16:16) 2. It has no creed but the Bible, binds no name on members but Christ’s. (ACTS 11:26; l PETER 4:16) 3. Its acts of worship are patterned after New Testament examples. (JOHN 4:24; ACTS 20:7; I CORINTHIANS 16:1-2; EPHESIANS 5:19; COLOSSIANS 3:16) 4. It teaches that UNITY can be achieved on all doctrinal disputed questions. (JOHN 17:21; I CORINTHIANS 1:10; EPHESIANS 4:4-6) 5. Its future: Eternal Glory with Christ. (I THESSALONIANS 4:17; MATTHEW 7:14) THE CHURCH MUST WARE HIS NAME

[@humbertojimenez3475]

Herod of Alexandria was an inventor who lived at the time of Jesus. He made 2 different types of trick wine jugs that would turn water into wine. His devices were well known among the elite of the era.

[@texaslocoman1]

In 64 AD Peter calls Mark his son in his letter meaning Mark was at least 20 years younger than Peter in 64 AD. I still don't know how church scholars come out with their dates 😮

[@wontedmiddle]

i dont hink he meant his literal son bro

[@matthewkopp2391]

Could Mark be a refutation of Simon Magus and Dositheos the Samaritan? That is to say,”Simon Magus is not a real magician who is good, Jesus was. And Dositheos is not the real Messiah, Jesus was and he is not interested in political power but a spiritual messiah.” The enigmatic claim of messiah, plus the denial of power (the temptations and Peter “get behind me Satan”.)

[@NHNEU1111]

Why is is that when pointing out the reference to Isaiah and Malachi in Mark you never mention the YLT translation where it simply says “Prophets” and not Isaiah? Mark 1:2 - As it hath been written in the prophets, 'Lo, I send My messenger before thy face, who shall prepare thy way before thee,' -- YLT If I’m aware of it as a lay person It would be strange if you weren’t. I can’t read the Greek but there has to be a good reason why it was translated this way. Can you elaborate on this?

[@rainbowkrampus]

Strong's shows that Isaiah is in the greek. So Young left it out. Young was a weird guy. Shrug.

[@NHNEU1111]

@@rainbowkrampus I see it in Strongs but the ESV which I primarily use has a note to that passage that says “some manuscripts in the prophets”

[@rainbowkrampus]

@@NHNEU1111 I did search for any manuscripts which use that initially but nothing came up. Might just be poor google fu. Might just be really uncommonly used manuscripts. Smart money is probably on looking up which manuscript(s) Young used if that information is easily available.

[@normative]

I mean, the obvious reason is “because it sounds like a potential mistake, and the translator didn’t want his readers thinking Mark made a mistake.”

[@paulsmit9130]

Dr Tabor, thanks for your amazing information and interpretation. I have a question that is off this subject. I've watched some of your other episodes where you show us the Babylon or Hebrew map of the flat earth, the firmament, hades and the heaven of heavens. My questions are as follows, is the earth flat? Does the earth revolve around the sun? Is the earth moving through space, or is ut stationary? I always wondered where did the flat earthers movement get their ideas from. My curiosity was curbed when I saw your maps. Now I am confused. Some clarity would be appreciated please.

[@walterlahaye2128]

ACTS IS THE BOOK OF THE EARLY CHURCH AND THE KINGDOM OF GOD

[@saidzouhri8524]

Mark was the nephew of Barnabbas

[@texaslocoman1]

If we say Mathew's gospel was written after 70AD we are invalidating Jesus' prophesies about the fall of Jerusalem

[@ibrahimchaiben5016]

maybe not invalidating, because it did happen. But since the gospel was written after the fall, it could've easily been included in the narrative as a prophecy. So it remains a prophecy in the narrative but only due to hindsight.

[@texaslocoman1]

@@ibrahimchaiben5016 the false narrative that the scriptures interpret themselves comes from beliefs like this one. Mathew wrote his gospel way before 70AD. Some Church history doesn't match. Like the one saying Timothy lived to 80 and died in Ephesus in 90 AD but this tradition breaks with John who was running the church in that city none mentions the other. The whole thing doesn't match. It's a shame historical inaccuracy 😲 Timothy was sick probably diabetes. Unlikely he lived to be that old 🤥

[@wontedmiddle]

@@texaslocoman1 timothy died when he was 80, how is that impossible?

[@wontedmiddle]

@@texaslocoman1 can you elaborate on why john running that church in that city negates the fact timothy died in 90 ad

[@andreroundtree424]

When are we going to just admit that whoever is Paul or a follower of Paul simply CREATED Mark?

[@texaslocoman1]

Church's tradition says Mark is the boy who runs naked from the garden. Makes sense. Makes sense Mark was with Peter in Rome in 64AD after he left Paul. Why the church come out with these incredible dates for the gospel,?😮😮😮

[@GodsWorld189]

😢 YAHUSHA spoke to Moses, I AM before Abraham was. 🤐

[@tarikramadaan3342]

Is the Jesus of Islam the same as Christianity ?

[@Aleph-1777]

Yes

[@Thesortvokter]

Nah, in islam he is not even crucified, Allah just fools people into thinking so.

[@STho205]

Yeshua is the same historic figure. The people of the Book are the Jews to live in the laws of Abraham and Moses. Then is brought Wisdom and The Gospel by Yeshua (Latin modern Jesus). The Quran says he was not crucified, however there are sects of Islam that insist that passage means he was restored to life by Allah (Father), as crucified to an Arab is death not the act of nailing a person to a cross as Latins and Greeks see it. They however do not acknowledge the Trinity, Triune God. Therefore most insist that the Gospels that reference two or three persons of God equal in authority and majesty, are corruptions by the neo pagans of Rome. They insist God is the god of Abraham, Ismael and Isaac and no separate manifestation of persons. It is a technical difference but a big one. Islam, Jehovahs Witness, Momonism, Arianism all are classified as Jesus being a creation of God, and not equally divine.

[@Thesortvokter]

@@STho205 ...and to think, it's aaall a perversion of the spiritual.

[@matthewkopp2391]

A large aspect of the Islam picture comes from the Infant Gospel of Thomas. The Thomas Church was one of the first and established in Iraq.

[@francismarcoux8944]

Marc must be the ébénistes version of the gospel

[@isaakleillhikar8311]

The Ebionites deny that Jesus is God.

[@walterlahaye2128]

THE 400 YEARS OF SILENCE With the completion of (MALACHI) about 397 B.C. the Old Testament Cannon of Scripture is complete and we enter the period between the Old and New Testaments. During this period called “The 400 years of silence” God called no man in lsrael to be His prophet to the people. It is during this time that the Apocrypha was written which is found in the Catholic Bible today. Some books such as l & ll Macabees are Jewish history, others such as Bell and the Dragon are fables and myths. None of the Apocrypha is inspired Scripture, none is quoted by Jesus, the Apostles, or any New Testament inspired writer, and none deserves to be included in the inspired Cannon of Scripture.

[@WhatThisMeann]

So much of New Testament doctrine was taken from 1 Enoch (a book in the Apocrypha). Hell, fallen angels + Demons, the separation and judgment of the dead, Michael, Gabriel, etc... These things didn't exist in Jewish theology until Enoch, and then later the New Testament. Its all man made my dude. Note 1 Enoch was one of the most popular books found among the dead sea scroll community. It ranked in 3rd place for the most copies found there. Jesus loved 1st Enoch.

[@walterlahaye2128]

@@WhatThisMeann , The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed. The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed.

[@mikemeade741]

Mark clearly has his gospel from Peter - the internal evidence of the gospel itself, the historic

[@kyle5519]

You tried in Waco, but can't blame yourself for someone thinking they can take on the US government

[@KendraAndTheLaw]

As much as I detest Vernon Howel, the U.S. govt took on him, and seriously mishandled the situation.

[@texaslocoman1]

How old was Luke when he traveled with Paul? He was a doctor and very possible younger than Paul who was about 50. Even if Luke wrote in 85AD he was too old to even see what he was writing 😮

[@garlandjones7709]

Why do you think he'd have vision problems?

[@texaslocoman1]

@@garlandjones7709 people start having problems with sight after age 40. There were no glasses in Jesus times. And Peter and Paul tell us they used helpers to write their letters. Possibly much younger scribes.

[@garlandjones7709]

@@texaslocoman1 i always assumed they used people to write their letters because they were Hebrew and Aramaic speakers. Like how Matthew is claimed to have been written in Hebrew then translated to Greek. Paul for sure was fluent in Hebrew, Peter for sure in Aramaic. John can be evidenced to be a Hebrew speaker as well. I don't have an opinion on Luke.

[@wontedmiddle]

@@texaslocoman1 he can always have a scribe writing it for him?

[@markballantyne393]

Not hate is a double negative!

[@hevechvy]

Strain at a gnat. Swallow a camel. Why did Jesus not think it was important to write something Himself? Pretty short sighted, huh? Long story short, He didn't wright anything down because He was coming back. God is a Spirit and He is holy. Jesus Did come back on the day of Pentecost. And the true Church has been led by Him ever since then. The Kingdom of God is within you. It's the Baptism in the holy Ghost.

[@walterlahaye2128]

Paul is the greatest Christian who ever lived! He was a member of the church of Christ! There is no other doctrine that can save!

[@shanejohnson1034]

Waco was a tragedy, but more so, a massacre.

[@salwaneleyland5874]

Coalition Red fires burnings coal it iron red hot ants.

[@texaslocoman1]

I agree Mark was first but his draft was first written on about 42 AD when Mark was still in his 20s. He was rich and educated he could have done this at that age. I don't know how the church tradition says these evangelists wrote their gospels when they were over 100 years old 😂 some like Luke in 130AD🤣

[@bike_writer3614]

@8:14 Tabor says in Mark "Mary the mother of Jesus ... goes to the tomb"? I think not. Stick to the text. There are two Mary's there, yes. But in Mark's story Jesus' mother was a non-believer. Jesus only became the Son with baptism, so she was irrelevant for his "birth". Mark introduces the unnamed (!) mother and brothers first in in Mark 3:31-35:, in a parable to show what happens to non-believers, even blood relatives of the Lord: Jesus refuses to see them (and to save them!), and says to his flock: you are my family now. Typical cult-teaching. The mother is not saved! And Mark didn't want Jesus' blood relatives to claim the body either! The disciples get the honor to bury Jesus, while his infidel mother and brothers were back in Galilee. That was the story. Meaning the second Mary, "of Jacob"(in English confusingly "James"), who showed up at the tomb, was NOT Jesus' mother! Impossible! Mark didn't have a conversion story for the mother, did he? I even suspect that Mark 6:3, the line where the mother and brothers ARE suddenly mentioned by name (by the non-believers in Jesus' unnnamed home town), is an insertion, since Matthew en Luke don't have that scene, and John does (in more compact form). It's really not that complicated when you see the big picture ;)

[@thesolarengineer]

Jacob is an alternate universe version of Nicholas Cage in that he's at least 100 times smarter than Nicholas Cage but proportionally he's 100 times more boring.

[@corbentaylor7825]

lol

[@Ghost_bros]

Ancient aliens

[@folkeholtz6351]

The date of the various gospels is put to late. The reason for this is that Acts is most probably a defendande of Paul. and Luke came before, so we do have a latest date for this two letters arouind 63 CE. This is also the explanations for why acts seems to be so early ion its expressions comparive to later gospels such as the gospel of John. So the age would be as follows. Mark around the year 50 C E. Matthew around 55 C E Luke around 62 and so Acts. The Gospel of John the year 80 C E. So now you have something to think about.

[@jamesanonymous2343]

IF YOU CAME HERE SEEKING JESUS, YOU'RE ALREADY ON ""THE WRONG ROAD""

[@montanaboobie]

I think many of these scholars are educated beyond their mental capacities. Does anyone know if Mr Tabor is even a believer of the gospel of Christ?

[@elainafaust3717]

Comments like this are why I believe that religion absolutely kills intellectual curiosity. What a shame

[@ronashman8463]

I have been looking for evidence in his clips for a few weeks. Tabor is such a Bible corrector that I have come to the conclusion that he can not be.

[@Bobson_Dugnutt_Esq]

“Educated beyond their mental capabilities” sounds a lot better than “indoctrinated far short of them.”

[@davidkeller6156]

Why would his belief or non belief matter when you’re looking at history? Historians try to put their personal beliefs aside when researching history.

[@Dejawolfs]

Tabor is a follower of the word of Jesus, not a follower of the christian doctrine. i'd say he understands jesus far better than most christians would ever be able to.

[@paulhaynes3688]

It doesn’t it’s all man made

[@henryschmit3340]

It doesn't "matter" because it is all the one Gospel/Good News. It makes no difference who wrote what first. They are all pointing in the same direction... to Christ and salvation.

[@Carelock]

I’m literally the 666th Like 😂

[@walterlahaye2128]

God is the sole author of this Book we call the Bible. Because only one who knows the end from the beginning could have foretold those things that came to pass, exactly as the prophets had predicted!

[@platzhirsch4275]

Actually the gospel of Matthew most definitely is the first gospel written (almost certainly before 50 A.D.) and was originally written in Hebrew. Proof? Origen (Eusebius, H.E. 6.25.4)"As having learnt by tradition concerning the four Gospels, which alone are unquestionable in the Church of God under heaven, that first was written according to Matthew, who was once a tax collector but afterwards an apostle of Jesus Christ, who published it for those who from Judaism came to believe, composed as it was in the Hebrew language."

[@platzhirsch4275]

Another historian wrote this amazing history recently found: Irenaeus, Adv. Haer. 3.1.1"Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome and laying the foundations of the church."

[@TheDanEdwards]

Well, that is the dogma of some Catholic teachers. But you don't seem to get why your assertion has been rejected long ago. Here's a clue: references in such a "Matthew" book you want to cite... are citing a different book than the "Matthew" we have today.

[@platzhirsch4275]

@@TheDanEdwards many things are rejected, which doesn't mean its true. Let's not be fooled. Irenaeus, Adv. Haer. 3.1.1"Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome and laying the foundations of the church." From this Matthew was written initially in Hebrew while Peter and Paul where in ROM. hence Matthew was the first Gospel. Also don't forget Scripture is inspired. These writings where not on the account of purely human thought but are inspired like all Scripture. To understand what that means read the book of revelation and cross examine it with Daniel prophecies. Check on the prophecy of the Roman Catholicism, the great whore dressed in purple and gold and drunken from the blood of the saints. These are prophecies written under inspiration. You may not understand however....

[@platzhirsch4275]

@@TheDanEdwards read what first Church historians have to say: Origen (Eusebius, H.E. 6.25.4)"As having learnt by tradition concerning the four Gospels, which alone are unquestionable in the Church of God under heaven, that first was written according to Matthew, who was once a tax collector but afterwards an apostle of Jesus Christ, who published it for those who from Judaism came to believe, composed as it was in the Hebrew language."

[@platzhirsch4275]

@@TheDanEdwards there us more historical evidence : The Didache (AD 95) is most likely the earliest extra-biblical manuscript. In 8.2, the Didache quotes from Matthew’s version of the Lord’s Prayer (Mt. 6:5, 9-13)!!!!!! This already is very serious evidence. But it's overlooked by many that prefer to create a notion that the divine nature of christ was added later so they must claim Mark came first.... we know why they insist on this, but its not true. Clement of Rome (AD 95) dates very early as well, because he mentions the Temple still standing (ch.41). And Clement cites Matthew (1 Clement 13.2) and the other Synoptic Gospels (1 Clement 24.5; 46.8).

[@mikemeade741]

Mark is in the bible - nothing hidden - clearky most of it from Peter

[@patrickjohnson7592]

The Israelites, received, Salvation, thousands of years ago.The reveals, this Fact. They, received Salvation, not by the name, Jesus The Language Name Yakah, the Annointed One , was the Name, þhat g

[@texaslocoman1]

Paul tells Timothy to bring Mark with him to Rome. This narrative infers Mark was younger than Timothy in 60AD. Then Mark stays with Peter who calls this city Babylon!

[@wontedmiddle]

how does this show mark was younger

[@texaslocoman1]

@@wontedmiddle Mark was around 14 when Jesus was arrested

[@wontedmiddle]

@@texaslocoman1 u got that info where

[@texaslocoman1]

@@wontedmiddle Church Tradition and the letter of Paul to Timothy in 65 AD in prison in Rome. Paul tells Timothy to bring Mark with him because the young Mark could help.