This Metering Mode is Ruining Your EXPOSURE!

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Mark Denney

Mark Denney

Күн бұрын

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@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
💥QUICK QUESTION: Which Metering Mode do You Use most often?
@bkc1965
@bkc1965 Ай бұрын
I use evaluative mode. I shoot with a Canon EOS R and the evaluative metering is linked to the focus point, or the exposure is weighted to the focus point selected.
@mizshellytee
@mizshellytee Ай бұрын
I've always used Matrix metering.
@retirewithjames6745
@retirewithjames6745 Ай бұрын
Matrix
@ConstantinSimionica
@ConstantinSimionica Ай бұрын
Almost always matrix metering.
@marktaylor9579
@marktaylor9579 Ай бұрын
Evaluative on my R6
@slowlyrusting4044
@slowlyrusting4044 Ай бұрын
To be honest, I set the majority of my exposures using the camera's histogram and seldom ever pay attention to the actual *meter* setting ( not to be confused with the metering mode, I use matrix 98% of the time). This has worked out well for *_my_* style of shooting. One great thing about photography is that there are so many ways to arrive at the same place. Find one that works for you and shoot away. Nice explanations, Mark.
@genuine0
@genuine0 Ай бұрын
Exactly, this is what makes photography and videography exciting, every person can have their unique style.
@michaelkissane6138
@michaelkissane6138 26 күн бұрын
One caution being to have the shutter speed appropriate for either hand-held (e.g. 1/focal length of lens used*any sensor factor) or tripod, depending on what's in use.
@SamCarleton
@SamCarleton 12 күн бұрын
So I don’t mean to be a jerk, but I am an anal engineer so here goes: That histogram that you’re using exists because of… The light meter…. It’s simply mirroring the whole image to create the histogram. Just out of curiosity, how do you adjust your histogram? Do you shoot in Manuel mode all the time or do you use the exposure compensation dial to adjusted?
@slowlyrusting4044
@slowlyrusting4044 11 күн бұрын
@@SamCarleton I, like you, am a very inquisitive person. I do not pay attention to the *meter* in terms of whether the image is under/over or "correctly" exposed. The histogram gives me a better sense of the tonal value I am about to capture as opposed to whether the entire image will be darker or lighter than the camera thinks it should be. I shoot in manual mode 90% of the time, not because it's _the_ way to do it, but because it's how I learned way back in the film days when cameras and lenses were manual and it is second nature to me. I'll sometimes shoot in aperture priority with exposure compensation but not very often. To each his own, right?
@SamCarleton
@SamCarleton 11 күн бұрын
@@slowlyrusting4044 I, too, come from the film days of shooting chrome and using a spot meter for correct exposure. So I am totally with you! My only point is that the only way to get your histogram is by the light meter reading the scene to create it. so... technically you are using the light meter, just not in a classical way :P
@kevinbourke4038
@kevinbourke4038 22 сағат бұрын
I commenced my photographic journey way back in the late 60's. Never have I needed a seperate light meter, even in that era, cameras had built in centre weighted light meters built in. Also, with mirrorless cameras with an EVF - You can see the 'final' image in the EVF and adjust the image as necessary using the exposure compensation dial.
@777hdn
@777hdn 11 сағат бұрын
I did use a separate light meter when shooting with a 6x6 double lens reflex (DLR?) Rolleicord I borrowed from a friend in the 70's. My first own camera had built in selective metering (square in centre) with pure manual exposure control. 16 years later my first multi-mode-AE camera had a very tricky spot metering as an option to the selective metering I was used (and mostly sticking) to.After that any camera had Evaluative/Matrix Metering which I used but never fully trusted. But from 2013 on there was my first mirrorless EVF-based camera and that really changed the way I'm doing metering by using the exposure compensation dial just like you 👍
@joshuaconti989
@joshuaconti989 Ай бұрын
as someone who photographs moving objects with intense light sources- I live and die by spot/center weighted with full manual + auto ISO. having full control lockdown of shutter speed and depth of field/sharpness is essential and with spot/center I can let auto iso just pick what it needs and I get amazingly consistent results day and night. kudos for an excellent explanation of metering modes!
@kbstabs5982
@kbstabs5982 Ай бұрын
Set spot metering > focus on subject > lock focus (back button focus) > move camera around to obtain the desired exposure for the subject > lock exposure by half press of shutter button > recompose and shoot
@tomwear4613
@tomwear4613 Ай бұрын
Was going to add just that point. Though I think with some cameras you have to tell it whether you want to back button (or half shutter press) lock both focus and exposure, or just focus. But yeah, I'd much rather do that than manually move my focus point around for every different composition.
@alansach8437
@alansach8437 Ай бұрын
Oops! Too late! The bird I was trying to photograph is in the next county!
@joekidd8
@joekidd8 Ай бұрын
Tried back button focus, then you give your camera to a person to take a photo of you and your wife and the focus doesn’t work and they don’t have a clue. Going back to half press and a back button for servo only and one for eye focus.
@tomwear4613
@tomwear4613 Ай бұрын
@@alansach8437 Just because a certain technique is not useful for some kinds of photography doesn't mean it's not useful.
@tomwear4613
@tomwear4613 Ай бұрын
@@joekidd8 Can't speak for every camera, but at least on my Nikon you can have both at once -- half-press and back-button.
@kencawley3121
@kencawley3121 Ай бұрын
I finally get it! I’ve read many descriptions of the various metering modes and always come away confused about the differences. Seeing you demonstrate it in your camera’s Live View has taken all the mystery out of it. Thank you.
@trout3212001
@trout3212001 Ай бұрын
Thanks for a great video. FYI, I use highlight metering when taking pictures of white birds, especially egrets. It is very easy for them to get blown out unless you compensate somehow.
@ofeykalakar1
@ofeykalakar1 26 күн бұрын
Same with the moon
@TeddyCavachon
@TeddyCavachon Ай бұрын
Ever since 2000 when I got my first digital camera with a histogram I’ve used it and the highlight clipping warning with center weighed metering. When doing portraits with ambient, ambient + flash or just flash I always start with black and white towels draped over the edges of the gray card I use as a WB reference and for setting custom WB. The reality of exposure is that digital sensors can’t reproduce scenes “normally” per the baseline of our adaptive vision. In the majority of scenes, especially those with faces in them, maintaining separation between “Zone 9 - brightest solid white in scene = 245-254” and “Zone 10 - 3D shaped defining clues on white objects = 255” with some loss of shadow detail and darker than normal midtones is the best single exposure, ambient only strategy and the easiest way achieve it regardless of camera metering mode used is to increase exposure until the Zone 9 white objects in the scene are 1/3 stop below clipping and a photo of a white towel will retain the texture visually and have a 0-255 8-bit eyedropper value of between 245 and 254, reserving 255 clipping for the specular highlights in the actual file captured (RAW or JPG). Since the RAW files have more exposure ‘headroom’ than the JPGs used in the camera for playback you’ll need to compare RAW reading with appearance of clipping on the whites to fine tune exposure for the highlights. The way deal with loss of shadow detail detail and noise for static scenes is to shoot on a tripod and first expose highlights 1/3 under clipping then slow shutter by three EV / stops to create a second shadow exposure. Rather than using automated HDR and winding up with a ‘Sea of Sameness” that looks unnatural I open the both files separately then copy/paste the entire shadow exposure as a second layer over the highlight exposure. I than add a black filled mask (hold down opt/alt when clicking mask icon) the SELECTIVELY open the mask to add in the shadow detail, more around the focal point(s) I want the viewer to find and dwell on, creating a tonal / detail “on ramp” to the focal point similar to how our brains get “tunnel vision” and “tune out” what the more sensitive rod cells in the periphery are detecting. It’s a bit more work but the result is more organic and natural than AI produced HDR. The key to overcoming sensor range limitations with flash illuminated foregrounds is to always use the sun as back rim light and start, regardless of camera metering mode, by keeping the parts of the white towel ‘kissed’ by the sun 1/3 below clipping at the aperture desired for DOF, with shutter at max sync speed or below. Exposing for the sunny highlights on the white towel that will also expose all the highlights in the background below clipping but underexpose the front of the subject. The next thing I always do is pose the face(s) towards the dominant direction of the northern sky, lifting the subject’s chin as need to get light past the brow and into the eyes unless going for a brooding detached vibe. The first flash I add is the FILL I keep centered over the camera on a Stroboframe Camera-Rotating bracket, raising its power until detail is seen in my BLACK TOWEL exposure target. This is the step 99% of photographers today don’t understand the need for. I do because back in 1970 when I shot my first portraits with a pair of shop lights I followed the instructions in a Kodak “How To Make Portraits” which explained the rationale for using centered, shadowless as possible (from POV of lens fill). With a digital sensor any shadows produced by the fill will be noise filled voids, which are easily avoided by keeping a FILL flash above the lens when shooting with flash. The final step is placing the KEY flash. It can go anywhere but if the goal is to SEAMLESSLY marry the flash with the ambient it needs to hit the face on the same vector as the natural light modeling the face. Since skylight comes from such a steep angle, forcing subject to look up, positioning the KEY flash ideally to match the lower contrast ambient pattern will require a 10-12ft light stand to match the 3D modeling vector of the skylight. Key Flash power needs to be set 2/3 EV below clipping (1/3 stop below sun-kissed non-clipping whites) to preserve the ‘ambience’ of the back rim sun lighting. The final step is to raise the POV of the camera so the sensor is parallel / / with front plane of the face looking up to get light in the eyes. That will foreshorten the body and make the ground around the subject the background in the photo. How much the body is foreshortened is controlled via shooting distance and elevation. Higher and further away is better for multi-row group photos because it puts all the faces closer together relative to the camera and gets great light on the faces. If fill is on bracket over camera it moves with the camera and isn’t something that needs any conscious thought once power level is dialed via the black towel. It might seem complicated but all new things do the first time. Once you seen the difference in the results you’ll better understand why it works and it will become second nature. I’ve been shooting with flash that way for over 50 years after learning the technique working for lighting Zen Master Monte Zucker and am just trying to “pay forward” what he generously taught me.
@CinHalCedHerChance
@CinHalCedHerChance 18 күн бұрын
holy geez lol
@martifingers
@martifingers Ай бұрын
Just a small clarification. Matrix (or Evaluative as Canon calls it) is not just a simple averaging of the reading of the different segments of the matrix. To quote Nikon "The camera meters a wide area of the frame and sets exposure according to tone distribution, color, composition, and distance for results close to those seen by the naked eye." In other words the camera applies a sophisticated algorithm to the readings in effect comparing it to similar lighting situations. This is not the same as full frame metering which simply measures the total amount of light reaching the frame. As such it is inherently prone to error and is now more or less obso0letealthough I think Sony still offer it as option on some models? It is true BTW that separate meters were a common feature of my early photographic career(starting in 1969!) but even by the early 1970s the vast majority of cameras had TTL or similar metering built in. I would say that getting to know how to use a hand held meter is a really good way of understanding light and exposure in many ways ( eg exposure equivalents etc) ands many would argue it's a great tool to understand the Zone System even if its practical necessity is long gone...
@alansach8437
@alansach8437 Ай бұрын
Exactly. "Evaluative" is very descriptive. The camera looks at a wide area and "evaluates". It is not center weighted averaging, which is a different mode altogether. Over the years evaluative or matrix metering has gotten better and better. In modern cameras, in all but the most complicated cases, it will generally get you very close to the proper exposure. In most cases you will need no more than one to two thirds of a stop of compensation one way or the other. Nowadays, we also have the histogram in the viewfinder (if we so choose). 98% of the time this allows for instant compensation (if needed) with one dial and a perfect exposure every time. Folks tend to make it more complicated than it needs to be.
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 Күн бұрын
Do you mean zone system is obsolete or meters? I happen to think a light meter is a necessity for portrait and macro photography.
@GeorgeLoch
@GeorgeLoch Ай бұрын
This is why manual mode + histogram has always been my preferred approach. I do the 'priorty' in my head.
@frankb4793
@frankb4793 Ай бұрын
I agree the histogram is very important tool a lot of people don't understand or use.
@Zealor365
@Zealor365 29 күн бұрын
I've been shooting manually for years using the in camera Hist. For landscapes, Matrix Metering is the most accurate.
@TangerineTux
@TangerineTux 10 күн бұрын
My favourite option would be the zebras if my camera had them (and especially if they were raw-based); sadly, it can only show them for video, not stills.
@virtualworldsbyloff
@virtualworldsbyloff 7 күн бұрын
If you shoot outdoor portrait in a backlighted situation, when you get the perfect histogram the person may be really badly exposed and force you to edit the skin a lot, the histogram did not guess there was a person, it just balanced the exposure right for the massive light differences it found...
@virtualworldsbyloff
@virtualworldsbyloff 7 күн бұрын
​​@@Zealor365When you shoot manual you use the -1 -0- +1 indicator to guide yourself, you are trusting the camera meeter, well guess what - when you use shutter or apperture priorities you can also trust your camera meetering, it does not measure subjects worse than when it is on manual, lol
@claireshickora931
@claireshickora931 Ай бұрын
Liked the video! Sorry to say spot metering on my Canon 6D Mark II does not follow the focus point, the circle is in the center of the frame. I shoot in manual mode - mostly landscapes using evaluative metering, but for high contrast scenes I meter off the highlights/brightest area, adjust my exposure accordingly, recompose scene, then use the histogram exposing to the right until the highlights are almost clipped.
@Valendrizzle
@Valendrizzle 27 күн бұрын
Very handy feature for Sony users is face priority for metering. It is not a standalone metering option but complementary to matrix and thus a little hidden in the menues.
@spencerfr1
@spencerfr1 8 күн бұрын
Where is this setting? Is it on a7iv or only the newest cameras?
@Valendrizzle
@Valendrizzle 8 күн бұрын
@spencerfr1 I also have an A7 IV, it should be under: MENU → Exposure/Color → Metering → Face Priority in Multi Metering
@Valendrizzle
@Valendrizzle 7 күн бұрын
@spencerfr1 My A7 IV has it. It should be in MENU → (Exposure/Color) → [Metering] → [Face Priority in Multi Metering].
@bfeller1986
@bfeller1986 4 күн бұрын
I've been practicing photography for several years now, and this is the first video that makes me finally understand what metering actually is and how it works. This is why I love your channel.
@777hdn
@777hdn 11 сағат бұрын
Thank you Mark for showing the effects of different metering modes very intuitively. 👏My camera provides two variants of spot metering for highlights or shadows what simply adds a fixed correction factor to the value metered, so you can either meter a bright spot with negative compensation or a shadow spot with a positive one. But I don't really use it as I prefer doing the compensation myself. Just for completeness sake: Center weighed metering as shown at first in your video does part of the metering all over the frame but the main part in the centre whereas some other cameras may provide integral metering all over the frame. On some cameras there's also selective metering which only does metering in a small area shown in the VF and is basically like spot metering but using a lerger area.
@ronpettitt6184
@ronpettitt6184 Ай бұрын
You did a good job of explaining the metering issue. Using the camera itself to illustrate is a good way to do it.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
Thanks Ron!
@KarloFio
@KarloFio Ай бұрын
Ciao Mark and respect for your videos 👍 Still, as a lifelong Nikon shooter, and you are obviously having a Z camera on your desk, here some facts. You didn't mention a powerful and variable setting with Nikon cameras and that is the Auto D lighting. Of course, that option is available in the Nikom software if you shoot RAW or, in Nikon's case NEF files. Using that option in your Nikon camera is essential in case of mirrorless cameras as it gives you a chance to manipulate the matrix and other types of metering by seeing it on your screen or through the viewfinder. Secondly, the most precise light metering for portraits is still the spot metering. Spot meter on the forehead of your model, lock the exposure and you are in control. And, of course there is a back button focussing method which gives us even more control possibilities over the exposure and how to manage it already in the camera. Hope you agree with me, I am speaking from some decades of experience 😂 Keep up the good work 👍
@alisaconn
@alisaconn Ай бұрын
You are such a great teacher. Very clear explanations and I love the hands on approach.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jonathanschick1920
@jonathanschick1920 Ай бұрын
I'm finding that with modern cameras and sensors that are relatively ISO invariant, highlight priority meeting is very useful in tricky situations, centre weighted for more general use.
@gordonwoods1087
@gordonwoods1087 17 күн бұрын
From the mid-70s through the early 2000s I shot on a series of 35mm cameras. Everyone of them had built-in light meters.
@pesieNL
@pesieNL Ай бұрын
My Z8 is on matrix-metering, never looked in that any further until now. Your video helps really to rethink that, thank you. I often look at the histogram and change exposure with the +/- dail. I like to freeze my exposure when I am satisfied, using one on the function-buttons on the front of the camera that's dedicated for freezing/unfreezing the current exposure. So that I'm able to optimize the composition a bit, without worrying that the exposure changes automatically again as a result of the reframing of the composition.
@backwoodstrails
@backwoodstrails Ай бұрын
Good explanation. The days of using a 1º spot meter and the zone system seem to have been taken over by the use of a histogram. I miss the days when photographers had to really know the more technical aspects of the craft. Hyperfocal focus, inverse square law......basics that not many know these days.
@adamleszko1588
@adamleszko1588 Ай бұрын
regardless of mode (which is only as assistant), most important is to understand that digital cameras measure for mid-grey (zone 5 on scale of 11). But there are many very bright objects like sky that are not in the 5th zone, but rather 7th to 9th (which means camera set to measure for sky, will underexpose the rest of the scene by 2-4 stops!), and many very dark objects like shadows or heavy forest that are in zone 2-3 (which means camera set to measure for shadow, will overexpose the rest of the scene by 2-3 stops). Objects that belong to zone5 are human skin, light buildings, open landscapes etc... There are many good videos on yt explaining that concept...
@danielmcgowan9534
@danielmcgowan9534 24 күн бұрын
Highlight metering is awesome at performances where the light changes very often and tends to be very contrasting. It makes it easy to prevent over exposing the performer's face that's getting all the light. I find it often looks similar to what the lighting designer intended with a bright subject with everything else falling off to deep shadows.
@johnirby493
@johnirby493 Ай бұрын
Spot metering, on any part of the scene is going to try to made it middle gray. Then everything that's a different shade is either going to be over or under exposed. That's why the zone system was developed, to adjust the exposure away from middle gray to where you want the metered area to appear.
@ralfjansen9118
@ralfjansen9118 Ай бұрын
If your scene is evenly illuminated, the mode is not important. But as soon as you have high contrast or do high key / low key photography, you certainly do not want the camera to decide the exposure but take things in your own hand. And in that moment, it is only a question of taste whether you choose spot metering, exposure compensation or fully manual (with view finder).
@CosmicOwlChild
@CosmicOwlChild Ай бұрын
I use highlight and matrix depending what I’m shooting. Highlight weighted is my main cause yes I do like my scenes dark. But I use my exposure composition to balance it out
@Hvn1957
@Hvn1957 Ай бұрын
Let’s be clear, “back in the film days” we had ttl metering in the sixties. Sure, I carried a handheld light meter, but I didn’t use it a whole lot unless I had the view camera. Also, when you’re in a priority mode, the exposure compensation dial is just as important as the type of metering you’re doing. To use EC, you really have to understand how the meter chooses exposure. You kind of skipped past the neutral grey thing a little quickly. 😊. The black card on a white wall example still illustrates it very well. Anyway, I enjoyed the video. f/8, man!
@selkiemaine
@selkiemaine Ай бұрын
Interesting. My Canon cameras have a different mode, which I use pretty much all the time - "evaluative metering". The way it was explained to me, it's basically spot metering with some center weighted added in. If I'm shooting fast travel shots with little or no warning, which I often do, I'll just set exposure compensation at -2/3 stop to help protect highlights and not worry unless I've got a particularly high or low key image, in which case, I'll dial it in with exposure compensation. If I have any doubt, or the time, I'll throw a histogram up on the screen or EVF - I can toggle it quickly on both my bodies. Of course, I can meter manually, or spot meter if necessary, but I find that there are so many good ways to approach the problem that I can make pretty much anything work (my favorite SLR has only spot metering, FWIW).
@wxexw
@wxexw Ай бұрын
Center weighted; Exposure Lock; recompose; shoot (focus on half press). Like we used to do with back button focus. (or fix the button to AF/AE lock on the back button)
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 Күн бұрын
I feel like if you’re locking exposure (and the feature can be useful in live events for sure) you might as well just shoot in manual. Too many people are afraid of manual mode. I think it’s because they don’t truly understand exposure. They use a priority mode, TTL flash and just hope it works.
@SamCarleton
@SamCarleton 12 күн бұрын
Answering video, but you overlooked a huge number of details. I’ll give you a few examples: using spot meter in portrait, photography, more than likely is going to give you an incorrect exposure, the reason is because human beings are not the 18% gray that the spot meter is assuming. You have to compensate accordingly. Then there’s also the factor of what matrix metering does. It does so much more than just evaluate the whole image. You might want to do a really deep dive on what matrix metering really is. You might need to go back and look at some articles that started to explore the concept back when the first powerful matrix meter in camera came on the scene: Nikon F5 with its 1005 point matrix metering.
@JasonLorette
@JasonLorette Ай бұрын
I have mine set on Matrix in my Nikon's from day one, honestly it's the most useful for me and one less thing I have to think about.
@shy-guy5544
@shy-guy5544 Ай бұрын
Also for me with my Fuji XT3.
@kelsi6273
@kelsi6273 Ай бұрын
This is one of the best videos for explaining the Metering Mode. Thank you!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
Amazing - thank you!
@paulbonge6617
@paulbonge6617 Ай бұрын
BRAVO Mark fine explanation! I know what you mean about finding a way to make the subject understandable! I've tried explaining metering as it pertains to digital cameras and the options available. I inevitably end up going further into the subject of light and dynamic range than that person would wish to or be able to fully understand. If they haven't cried out in frustration and stopped me, the explanation enters the hour mark and we're beginning to see eyes glazing over and minds disconnecting because I'm now beginning the long explanation of "The Zone System" albeit Minor White's more simplified version still puts most to sleep. I use the Zone System more now in my head when deciding how I want to expose for a certain scene, however given the magic of digital post processing that entails exposure stacking/blending, the implementation Zone System fundamentals is handled far differently than in my 30+ years of film shooting, from large format to 35mm. I'm one of the few who ALWAYS developed my own film and made my own prints with the exception of color which in the old days was quite expensive and much more difficult for those of us who rarely used color. In film you had that one chance to properly expose for a negative that you could depend on for producing the final print you pre-visualized before even thinking about attaching the film sleeve to the back of your camera. There was a very narrow margin for proper exposures and although you could salvage a passable print from a pretty awful negative with a lot of work and paper grade choices, dodging and burning, stopping down or opening up the aperture of the enlarger, it wasn't at all an optimal situation, and you'd consider the negative to be virtually a total loss. I'm fully invested in digital today, and I work more freely knowing that I have a far more sophisticated post-processing element that allows me much leeway in my creativity. After ALL this Mark, really great explanation of metering settings and their usefulness in different situations.
@HR-wd6cw
@HR-wd6cw Ай бұрын
It's important to note (and this may vary by brand or camera) when you use spot metering, generally it is slightly larger than the physical spot where your focus point is (this is the case at least on Nikons), and you find the "boundaries" of this spot is by doing the sme test you would have done for center-weighted but with spot metering, you'll notice the areas where the exposure settings change as you move the camera around say a light source, this will tell you where the boundaries of spot metering are in relation to the focus point. But for the most part, I think the focus point does cover the majority of the area metered but it can extend a bit beyond the focus point area. Personally for me, and the what I shoot, I have found that I use spot metering probably 3/4 of the time, regardless of how I'm shooting so to speak, especially if I'm shooting for HDR has this helps me determine (1) if I need to do a multi-frame HDR, and (2) what is the brightest and darkest areas of the photos (what are the settings or shutter speed needed and this helps me set up in-camera bracketing). I have found that matrix metering is probably the least used and partially because of how and what I tend to shoot. It's provided the least reliable results for me. So I'd say for me, spot metering is my first choice most of the time, followed by center weighted maybe 1/4 of the time (and mainly for specific things like portraits like you mentioned).
@alexeipg
@alexeipg Ай бұрын
One question I've had is why center-weighted metering would ever be better than spot metering locked to the focus point for portraiture/animal photography, particularly on newer nikon, sony, and canon cameras that have incredible subject-detection autofocus. If the camera can always (or almost always) lock on to the subject regardless of whether it is in the center or corners of the frame, won't this always be more reliable than center-weighted metering in these instances? A related question is whether spot focus in portraiture is more likely to over/under-expose skin tones because it is metering based on only the focus point (the eye) and not the entire face, whereas center-weighted metering would usually take the whole face into account.
@zebulon303303
@zebulon303303 Ай бұрын
Great questions. I was wondering the same things about spot and center weighted.
@darylhermann3792
@darylhermann3792 Ай бұрын
Spot metering on a can will meter on a small sample from the center of the screen not on the focus point on a Nikon. This is where Nikon really shines.
@JosephHHHo
@JosephHHHo 14 күн бұрын
Spot metering ties to focus point may not be a good choice if the selected focus point is relatively bright or dark relative to the exposure you want. Center weighted averages in the whole frame, it is a carry over from older technology for those that are used to it. In most cases that center weighted is preferred over spot metering, matrix metering will be even better.
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 Ай бұрын
I was fully on manual exposure while shooting film (single point metering was my most used built in camera metering equipment beside measuring the light intensity with a separate device). Years ago I changed to matrix metering with me controlling the exposure offset due to my artificial intentions. I will never again switch to another metering method with a digital camera (if in a very special case I would opt metering the light with the external device). The aperture is set by myself in 99.9% of all shots, today in most cases I let the camera select the exposure time and ISO (but I set the limits according to my interests). Histograms and test shot reviews are your friend today.
@vijaykarve736
@vijaykarve736 Ай бұрын
After light ,i think metering is the most important concept you must understand.As usual a wonderful video that will clear the metering.T'ons of thanks.MAY GOD BLESS YOU.
@PaulBenson-pn1hq
@PaulBenson-pn1hq 25 күн бұрын
Hi Mark, great video about meter modes. I mainly do landscape work and I've found that manual combined with spot metering mode gives me a lot more control. It can be a bit more labour intensive at times but I've found that with more practise I'm understanding my camera better.
@danielx555
@danielx555 Ай бұрын
I was born in the 1960s and I can testify that I literally stayed away from photography because I hated metering. I watched people do it, I shook my head and used point and shoot cameras, and when digital cameras came about, I jumped on them! I love the metering options with digital.
@johnharris6083
@johnharris6083 Ай бұрын
Mostly matrix, occasionally spot. I also never have a reason to use highlight weighted. When Nikon introduced this I seem to recall they were suggesting stage lighting as an example of when this would be helpful. Maybe it is.
@ThatRandomGofficKid
@ThatRandomGofficKid Ай бұрын
When I shoot live music, I always use highlight weighted. It really helps in keeping bright led stage lights from blowing out the subject's skin. Also, where it is a spot metering and I frame my subjects all over the frame, it keeps everything in check and looking good.
@SteveDisenhof
@SteveDisenhof Ай бұрын
I use Sony’s version of that all the time for stage lighting. It is hugely helpful, especially for overhead lights and foreheads.
@ThatRandomGofficKid
@ThatRandomGofficKid Ай бұрын
@@SteveDisenhof, especially late in the set, when the sweat is flowing.
@JohnSmith-ov7iz
@JohnSmith-ov7iz Ай бұрын
When I first started out about 5 1/2 years ago, the advice I heard most often was to always use manual exposure settings. (Which I never agreed with for the most part - aperture priority works perfectly for the majority of the situations.). However, the frustrating thing was I never saw anyone explain _how_ to use manual exposure settings regardless of which metering mode you choose. It is just in the past few months that I finally bumped into a resource that explained, in detail, how to use manual exposure settings correctly. It has helped out a _ton_.
@JustinBradleyPhotographer
@JustinBradleyPhotographer Ай бұрын
So happy you switched to the Z8.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
Same!
@donaldjusiak1476
@donaldjusiak1476 Ай бұрын
Which Metering Mode is best for outdoor portraits with a light background? Dark background?
@lylestavast7652
@lylestavast7652 Ай бұрын
what I really want is to set highlight point for one of the zones, to keep texture in highlights area - and same for keep details in shadows... give 2 points, and make sure it does it. this is zone system basically...
@sconnie360
@sconnie360 Ай бұрын
Great general explanation of metering, Mark. I shoot on Canon mirrorless and the spot metering is, unfortunately, tied to the center spot ONLY. Even if you move the focus point, your metering is done at the center spot. Obviously this can be overcome by pointing the center spot at your subject and then recomposing. I just wanted to make you aware that spot metering doesn't work that way on all brands. Don't quote me, but I believe the only Canon digital bodies that allowed moving "the spot" were the 1DX series.
@Mr_Glenn
@Mr_Glenn 26 күн бұрын
I have an R6 and I've never had metering issues with spot metering.
@sconnie360
@sconnie360 25 күн бұрын
@@Mr_Glenn Understood. It isn't a matter of having "issues" with it. It's knowing how the system works and how to work around the immovable spot metering area. I was simply pointing out that the Canon mirrorless cameras don't offer a moveable spot metering area like the camera Mark was demonstrating on.
@Niteskate1
@Niteskate1 Ай бұрын
Thanks Mark this really does make things more clear about the different modes and where to use them. Time to get out and capture some fall colors, I appreciate you taking the time to show us.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Niteskate1
@Niteskate1 Ай бұрын
@@MarkDenneyPhoto Your videos are always useful, being retired now they motivate me to get off my butt and try new things.
@CollectiveMindz
@CollectiveMindz 22 күн бұрын
I like spot metering for manual shooting. I'll point my camera around the scene and evaluate the exposure of my highlights and shadows, then set my exposure so that I'm protecting both of those as best possible for the situation. Of course I shoot raw and then adjust my final exposure in post.
@RoadReality
@RoadReality Ай бұрын
Yep, I definitely fall into the Matrix Metering camp. I do vlogs, landscape, pics of my motorcycle, all the things... and Matrix gets me close enough. I went through the same exercise a few months ago with my Nikon Z30, and you're right - it's 100% understood once you try each of them out!
@MrSpike2450
@MrSpike2450 Ай бұрын
Perfect explanation again, many thanks.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
Happy to hear it!
@madmechanic7641
@madmechanic7641 2 күн бұрын
Excellent video Mark. Reading through the comments though I feel I have to give a big shout out to all the CANON crew out there as they seem rather under-represented here. Whatever camera you shoot it's all about using the tool to create what you're happy with however you get there.. : )
@tomronollo9411
@tomronollo9411 Ай бұрын
If you move the focus/light marker in spot, and assuming aperture mode, then -- you can choose anywhere in your photo in order to change brightness.-- you can refine in post ---especially when using gfx100s or similar equipment
@gaz312
@gaz312 29 күн бұрын
In my 1970s FILM CAMERA I use whatever light meter setting BUILT INTO THE CAMERA is best for whatever subject I’m shooting. Because for nearly all SLR history SLR cameras have had in built light meters. I’ve never had to carry a separate device with me to take a light exposure on any film SLR because it’s rare to get one without a light meter. And if by chance I never I’d use the right settings for the conditions to get a decent exposure. The reason any film photographer used a separate device is the same reason digital photographers still use the same separate devices. Mostly an understanding between the difference of incidental vs reflective light.
@jimspc07
@jimspc07 Ай бұрын
Mark you needed to explain manual mode a bit more. If people didn't know of the various metering options they most likely would not know that the combination of speed and aperture is what one sets. The meter on the right says that to use the cameras choice of exposure you need to change one of the manual settings to achieve a mid point or use a combination of both. What you are seeing is a meter that is showing the shot EV and the combined EV of the speed and focus must match to use the camera recommendations or purposefully make it under exposed, over exposed, or selecting a longer or shorter shutter opening, or a bigger or lesser DOF using the meter recommendations as a guide, proving one cannot have a longer exposure and a shallower DOF at the same time unless the meter lets you. Though EV seems to be out of fashion nowadays its still true. Also why do you need to go into the depths of the menus to change metering mode? Doesn't Nikon have a quick select control that gives the ability to change this and other image settings with just 1 or 2 button pushes. By the time you found the setting the opportunity has long gone. Olympus has a quick select display panel with all the usual variables on it for fast change and has done for eons or even assignable buttons, I can focus on the touch screen at any position. I have a button assigned to re center the focus afterwards easy.
@scarcesense6449
@scarcesense6449 Ай бұрын
I was just experimenting with this yesterday. I tried spot mode for a dragonfly hovering over a black pond. It worked pretty well, save for the light being on the wrong side of the scene to get that nice backlight through its wings.
@frankb4793
@frankb4793 Ай бұрын
Thanks mark for explaining this, a lot of first time shooters don't know about this. They just use Auto.
@chrisf5475
@chrisf5475 27 күн бұрын
I still use a D7100 and I (I’m assuming you can do it on newer cameras too) use the metering button combined with rear control dial to change modes. I can’t imagine how anybody could be going into menus to do that but I guess you’re doing it that way so you can show it on a video? I change it frequently… not for ‘every’ shot but walking around on holiday or doing street stuff etc, I’ll change it for pretty much every location AND adjust the EV comp to suit with some thought to what the metering mode is going to do. Both of these things (on the D7100 at least) are instantly accessible with the dials and I’m pretty much adjusting these in my hands without looking at the camper before bringing the camera up to my eye to shoot. does it still look this way on modern Nikon cameras or do you have to use menus?
@randallk204
@randallk204 Ай бұрын
Mark...really enjoyed this video and you seem an excellent teacher...Since we are on the topic of METERING I have had this question a long time. All you ever hear about these days is "eye-auto focus." How Sony Canon leads the way blah blah blah...guess they do BUT I presently shoot Nikon, also Fuji...and have a Leica q2. In any case I tend to stay on evaluative metering, BUT my question is: if I choose to use "Eye auto focus" it SEEMS to me at least on Nikon and Fuji, EYE is turning metering to SPOT, regardless of how I have metering set. Is that possible, or JUST auto raising your exposure? All I want is the eye in focus...don't want an exposure or metering change. Whatever EYE is doing I find it I will often end up with badly blown highlights though the SUBJECT may now be perfectly lit. Because of this, I am finding unless the light is VERY even, eye-auto is almost a negative as far as exposure overall is concerned...any thoughts on this?, again is it changing your metering to SPOT or just raising exposure...which lets the camera decide? If anyone may know...Thanks...and new subscriber here! :)
@janbolding2324
@janbolding2324 4 күн бұрын
This was quite clear and easy to understand. Thank you! After I read the comments I was a bit confused. Watching again, not reading the comments. 😳
@cokrlicix
@cokrlicix Ай бұрын
Thx for clarifying those, very useful and informative.
@metchac
@metchac Ай бұрын
Thank you, THE Bob Ross of Photography 🙏🙌
@jcbever1511
@jcbever1511 Ай бұрын
Ok, well that explains it. I was using highlighted metering on my camera when taking photos outside at a harbor last week. All the photos came out darker than normal and I had to correct (sometimes significantly) in Lightroom. Really confusing because it was sunny outside. I just switched to center-weighted metering - hopefully my photos will be brighter next time I'm out taking photos. Thanks.
@FeatherSky64
@FeatherSky64 Ай бұрын
Hello Mark. I am an intermediate photographer. I have a Canon EOS Rebel T6. There are 3 Metering Modes on my camera: Evaluative, Partial & Center-Weighted Average. I usually have it on Evaluative Metering for all of my photos. Which would be best? Also, I've been using Manual mode, but it is frustrating. Which is best: Manual, Aperture Priority or Shutter Priority? Thank you in advance.
@virtualworldsbyloff
@virtualworldsbyloff 7 күн бұрын
As your demo clearly shows, the center weighted does not always work, we could see it over-exposing sometimes... I always use Full Framing meetering because if something is on the frame, even just in one corner, it must be accounted for. This said, no option will save you from the need to compensate here and there, because it all depends on what you like as the end result. When light intensity is very contrasted there are no miracles... I only have one exception, Outdoor Portrait, where I can't trust the Histogram because the most important thing is to avoid editing Human skin so I go for spot meetring and later may need to edit the backgrounds... The full frame meetering is the less worst option because it averages the exposure as much as possible, leaving less to exit... Of course it all depends on the subject and the need or no need to hurry up... You can go old school and spot meter the highest and lowest light and than in manual you smack it right in the middle...
@tomgodzik8951
@tomgodzik8951 27 күн бұрын
Matrix metering is working great for me. Great video. Thanks for sharing your experience. ❤❤❤
@audreyrice996
@audreyrice996 15 күн бұрын
Excellent explanation! I never understood metering until now. Thank you!! By the way, I love your shirt. We've been to Ouray many times, and just love it.
@sailingmorningstar4036
@sailingmorningstar4036 19 күн бұрын
yes your approach was a game changer thanks
@johndavis642
@johndavis642 23 күн бұрын
Honestly, even after two viewings of this presentation I’m convinced that it’s either magic or blind luck that people get a decent exposure. I do subscribe to the practical experience method of learning so I applaud your suggestion that people might find that useful. But don’t worry about me. I started with a manual camera and a sheet of suggestions based on something called the sunny sixteen rule. The only automation was a self timer for the shutter; there was NO light meter. You left a question so I’ll end with my answer: I use the metering mode that experience indicates is the correct choice for the situation. After all it’s just luck or magic!
@TheStormpeak
@TheStormpeak 23 күн бұрын
Great video. It is very helpful and you may it easy to understand metering modes. Thank you.
@susancallaghan
@susancallaghan 16 күн бұрын
Best explanation I've seen! Thank you!
@drewpreston9201
@drewpreston9201 25 күн бұрын
Quick question 🙋‍♂️ I love photographing action sports, mostly DH biking and BMX, wanting to do Motocross this spring/summer. What metering mode would you recommend when in AFC manual with auto iso? Another quick question, what focus point setting mode would you recommended ? I seem to get more of the image in focus if it’s set to Group vs Single . Thanks in advance
@tonytarquinio6439
@tonytarquinio6439 Ай бұрын
Greetings Mark. Many thanks for a very comprehensive and informative tutorial. I have found that Spot Metering (from any distance) is the most accurate for use on my Floral Portraits. It appears to have quite a bit more flexibility than I had anticipated and certainly contributes to much more enhanced I.Q., than other systems I have used. Once again, many thanks for a great video. Regards, Tony :))
@johnyoung8848
@johnyoung8848 Ай бұрын
I tried the Highlight Metering for the first time only throughout the week. Photographing 'Willy WagTail Nesting' Had a strong side light in the background for part of the image and seems to have balanced it out beautifully. Generally though I do use centre weighted
@bobkoure
@bobkoure 28 күн бұрын
Trivia for people still using Nikon DSLRs and looking at histograms post-shot (AKA 'chimping'). If you zoom in and move the loupe around, the histogram will reflect the part of the shot that's visible. I mostly use it to see if I've blown something in particular out (e.g. bright colored flower) as if that channel is blown there's no way to get the actual color back. No idea if all camera bodies do this, but it works on my D600, D750, and D850 (only ones I have on hand).
@kw80yt
@kw80yt Ай бұрын
I have highlight metering assigned to an Fn key in my landscape user mode for a quick check on the highlights on my Z7. This is a manual mode, so I don’t necessarily shoot in that metering mode, but it gives me a better idea of when to bracket. Often it comes up with a slight enough adjustment for a single exposure. I found it especially useful during sunrise when the light changes fast.
@SkyCharter
@SkyCharter 26 күн бұрын
Great explanation and demonstration of metering modes. Thanks!
@careylymanjones
@careylymanjones Ай бұрын
If you have a separate light meter, and can get close to your subject, there is another method of metering - incident metering. Incident metering measures the light that is actually falling on your subject INSTEAD of the light reflected from your subject. Incident metering cannot be fooled by very light or dark subjects. Incident light meters are sometimes called flash meters. Flash meters will have a flash control socket that allows you trigger strobes and measure the light from the flash, allowing you to set your aperture. You set the film speed and guide number of the flash unit, and the meter would calculate the correct aperture. Incident meters were sometimes combined with a spot meter. The spot meter had an eyepiece you looked through. You aimed the reticle at the part of the scene you wanted to measure, pressed the button, and the meter would calculate your exposure.
@Swing4TheRing
@Swing4TheRing 6 күн бұрын
What would you recommend for real estate photography?
@b991228
@b991228 Ай бұрын
It seems that any metering mode can be appropriately used if you are aware of how your camera will expose the composition of every image differently depending on the relationship of highlights, shadows and points of interest. The metering mode on my camera is set at evaluative metering. Through years of practice with my camera and one specific metering I understand that a photograph of a person under a bright streetlight will underexpose what is med-gray and try to get detail in the streetlight. Through experience though one learns how to compensate the exposure.
@spokesdog9958
@spokesdog9958 Ай бұрын
The BEST explanation I have seen to date. Thank you
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
Amazing to hear this - thank you!
@TylerThomas
@TylerThomas 26 күн бұрын
I am a highlight metering enjoyer. For general shooting I expose for the highlights and compensate +0.5 stops. Usually works great
@danielmcgowan9534
@danielmcgowan9534 24 күн бұрын
I should try that +.5. I love the concept because it protects the highlights on people's faces but it's too dark most of the time. But then again, post processing generally pulls it all together.
@marcelocampoamor4761
@marcelocampoamor4761 Ай бұрын
There is something important that you mentioned but that you later did not take into account when explaining the different methods. And it is the fact that the camera always puts the lighting in zone 5, that is, 18% grey and this must be taken into account in order to decide where our scene is located, that is, in which zone according to what Ansel Adams left us as a legacy. If you use central metering to take a portrait, you have to take into account the skin color of the person portrayed and know that if you do not compensate and the person has a dark complexion, their color will be washed out, just like snow, which remains grey, so in order to be able to correctly interpret what the camera is measuring and to be able to take the measurement within the appropriate zone. In landscapes this is not usually necessary because matrix metering takes into account the entire scene, but even here it will depend on what we are photographing and the quality of light.
@TubTechGuru
@TubTechGuru Ай бұрын
Great video! I used spot metering 90% of my shootings. The only time I use center metering is when I do group photo shooting or certain landscape shooting…
@ccoppola82
@ccoppola82 Ай бұрын
I’m a caveman. I got so used to metering by looking at shadow definition using my 1950s M2 shooting HP5 that I generally set my ISO to 250 digitally (what I rate HP5). It’s amazing how accurate it really is especially outside. Newer or less knowledgeable photographers are constantly peeping and trying to figure out they their exposures are way over but the reality is that they don’t understand how their meter works and corresponds to the zone system. Yes, zone system works perfectly well even with digital sensors. Thank you saint Ansel….
@M31glow
@M31glow 15 күн бұрын
Mark, with mirrorless cameras does the metering mode even matter. I just look at the scene and adjust exposure as needed, what do you think?
@nevvanclarke9225
@nevvanclarke9225 Ай бұрын
For uneven light ..sky lighter and foreground darker ...Average is best for say sunsets especially. PORTRAIT centre or spot ...everything else Average (matrix)
@HulonPhillips
@HulonPhillips 18 күн бұрын
Outstanding video!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@outofthecommonphotography5503
@outofthecommonphotography5503 Ай бұрын
This was very helpful actually for me. I usually have it on Matrix for EVERYTHING. Once in a while I'll use Center. Regardless, it's nice to really get a simplistic understanding of it all. Thank you!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
Happy it helped!
@RickMalpas
@RickMalpas Ай бұрын
Matrix metering mostly on my Nikon. But I have spot metering on a function button (hold down to switch to it) which is useful in hand-held mode for some subjects (like portraits).
@jonnyroids1482
@jonnyroids1482 Ай бұрын
Another great video mark. Have a lovely weekend.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@sweethomeboston2720
@sweethomeboston2720 15 күн бұрын
An excellent explanation! btw-- as a Canon user I don't know whether that camera is a DSLR or mirrorless. Maybe that has been explained in the comments but I have a short attention span😁
@kirtg1
@kirtg1 Ай бұрын
thanks for the video. real estate photography, in the sense you are speaking about, is similar to landscape,--the whole scene is important. would you favor one method of metering in manual mode for hdr real estate photography?
@cameronfaili661
@cameronfaili661 Ай бұрын
Such a great explanation of this tricky topic!!!!
@chadcooper9784
@chadcooper9784 26 күн бұрын
What metering do you recommend for concert photography? Using Z9
@melissafaria5386
@melissafaria5386 Ай бұрын
THANK YOU! that was a perfect way to explain meetering!!!! I so appreciate you
@sailinginps
@sailinginps Ай бұрын
Even if the subject is not in the center, can't you use the "Center" metering mode to acquire exposure and lock, and then reframe before you shoot? In other words, the subject doesn't have to be in the center of the frame to use the "Center" metering mode. Am I wrong?
@karlburchill2704
@karlburchill2704 Ай бұрын
I always shoot in manual and adjust accordingly to the available light, aperture or ISO Is what i usually change as my shutterspeed never changes it stays at 1/500 sec usually, I sometimes use the auto exposure lock button.
@juanrmartinez6598
@juanrmartinez6598 Күн бұрын
Most photographers know metering modes, I'm curious of your explanation of metering timer.
@joewigginsfortynine
@joewigginsfortynine Ай бұрын
When I first started learning DSLR my instructor at the time stressed to use spot metering. I used spot metering all the time but found I was spending a lot of time in post processing adjusting the photo's. One day about 2 years ago I saw a video on youtube to use matrix mode. I tried it out and it was like night and day. Since I do a lot of landscapes and car shows and hardly ever portraits, I found I still adjust but not as drastically as I did with spot metering. By the way. I hope someday you will have a video on how to shoot people or portraits because I am terrible at it.
@OwenEDell
@OwenEDell Ай бұрын
I like the hands-on walkthrough approach. It could be useful for many similar topics. Good idea, and good presentation. Another photographic mystery cleared up. Thank you!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto Ай бұрын
Thanks a million!
@TurboNorm
@TurboNorm Ай бұрын
Very helpful for this rookie, thanks.
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