My Daughter's Teacher Threatened Retaliation After I Questioned Her Rules r/Relationships

[@jaycooper2812]

My daughter had a problem with a boy at her school who thought it was funny to follow her around and harass her. He would make sexual comments about her and kept putting his hands on her. She tried going to the teachers multiple times and nothing was done. I finally told her that she had my permission to do what she had to do to get him to stop. The next day he walked up behind her and grabbed her bra strap and tried lifting her skirt. She turned around and punched him breaking his nose. I was called in to the school and was told that she would be suspended for 30 days and that the boy's parents were pressing assault charges against my daughter. I had my brother come to the meeting with me as I was very angry and couldn't trust myself to remain calm. My brother is a police officer. I asked my daughter to explain what happened and why she hit the boy. When she finished my brother said this, "You are going to suspend a girl for breaking a boy's nose while defending herself?" The principal said that she had injured the boy and that she was no longer allowed to attend the school for 30 days. My brother then pulled out his handcuffs and cuffed the boy. When his parents asked what was going on my brother informed them that he was arresting their son for sexual battery and if they really wanted to press the issue that he could upgrade the charges to attempted rape. He said that my daughter's actions were self defense and also informed them that if convicted the son could be required to register as a sex offender for between 5 years and the rest of his life. My brother also advised me to find an attorney to explore litigation against the school district because they have ignored repeated attempts to get him to stop. The principal was also informed that his lack of intervention in this case could result in him being charged with child endangerment. It got serious real quick. The boy was expelled from the school and when he went to court he was ordered to spend 6 months in juvenile detention and ordered to undergo counselling and attend a series of sex offender classes. He also has to register as a sexual predator until he turns 25 years of age. Quite a punishment for a 16 year old for trying to molest a 13 year old girl. His parents and the school also have to pay for counselling services for my daughter and the school has to have classes for all students on harassment and what conseqenses unwanted harassment will bring.

[@nixxyhasthoughts]

That is brilliant! I’m sorry your daughter went through that. I just don’t get how the school can just overlook the SA and punish the victim for defending themselves.

[@A.n0neeM0usee]

OMG, the guy, at 16 he isn't a boy anymore, was assaulting a 13-year-old girl? Thank god your brother is a cop.

[@44waxwings]

I find it utterly disgusting that this man almost got away with doing that to her. When I was in 6th grade I snapped one of my best friends bra straps against her back, she turned around with tears in her eyes and KICKED ME IN THE NUTS! 100% fair play if you ask me and I learned a lesson there. I was mad at first until I saw she was crying and realized I had majorly crossed a line.

[@The.S.M.Evans.91]

Thank God that your daughter has a supportive parent and uncle in her corner.

[@lj0608]

I did the same thing I had been harrassed from a boy since the last few years of primary school so roughly three years and then he came to my high school he tried something in the halls and I lost it everyone thought it was funny that a 4'10 girl was kicking someones ass until I started screaming about sexual harrassment for the last now four years

[@beccaf262]

i was the little girl in story 1. people refused to take it seriously and he found out where i lived and turned up uninvited and i had a panic attack. he was separated into another class the following year and was warned to leave me alone but on the first day he found me and my friends on the playground and proceeded to try and take upskirt photos of us. at 11 years old. girls constantly have their boundaries stomped. this mum is awesome. my mum was similar she took no shit.

[@riseevil7131]

He tried to take upskirt photo? What the hell... I hope he failed and he got severly into trouble for that! This boy is beyond insane and unredeemable...

[@teragram38crows49]

You should have kicked him in the face. When I was in 7th grade, there was a boy who was doing the same thing. He tried to feel up one of the bustier girls and her brother and his group of friends beat the crap out him. He stopped harassing all the girls after that. That kind of behavior has to be nipped in the bud before it before it becomes a bigger problem later in life.

[@bcase5328]

Also, it is time for the boy's father to talk to him about talking to a girl he likes, along with the hard lesson that how you feel doesn't mean how she feels. She can say no. You can't make her ___. Being a pest is a sure way to get her not to like you.

[@charliekezza]

I hope your doing ok Becca it sucks that some men and boys (and f$+king teachers) think that this is appropriate behaviour. They will never change. Horrible people

[@trashcatlinol]

I started 4th grade in a class that had at least 3 boys at all times that were horrible about sexually harassing the girls. Even a troll like me got targeted regularly. But our school had sexual harassment flyers all over because of those boys antics. One had a fascination with snapping girls bra straps, and another is personally responsible for my extended knowledge of sex positions. And not because I wanted to know... The problem was the common response you were supposed to have was to ignore the problem. Even the bra snapping. If you reacted, you were giving the bully what he wanted. At least the 4th and 5th grade teachers were sympathetic, and grouped the problem students away from the rest of us. Oh. My. God.... 6th grade though. The teacher who picked me as her bully target that year (happened every year. She insisted it made people stronger) didn't have any compassion and grouped whoever with whoever. And the sexual harassment hit it's crescendo at the school that year when a couple of the richer parents threatened to sue. It never really cleared up, as I continued to be targeted because I felt going to the teachers or principal was useless after the hell I was put through every time I tried to fight against the abuse. I still suffer ptsd from that year alone, and have only one situation where I could rely on an authority figure in my life... I resorted to escapism in the form of reading to deal with stress....6th grade was the year I hit 700 books, as a testament to the amount I was under. Even read the Bible at one point, as my family was religious and I was hoping to find something of comfort there...one of many that didn't count towards the ar amount, so i probably read at least hundred more than i remember. XD; I would have saved myself a lot of trouble if I would have just bit the bullet and slugged one of those pricks, though. Wouldn't have stopped the teacher bullying (well, maybe, but she was special kind of conniving bitch) but the sexual harassment and constant theft might have decreased.

[@zachf748]

The fact that the teacher was already aware of an issue between the kids, makes her position indefensible.

[@DigitalCowboy000]

I love how people in positions of authority try to make the *TRUE* victim to be the perpetrator.

[@arandomfan4710]

The "you must include everyone" rule is one of the most destructive and awful things that I've heard as a kid. We could make groups (You were forced to be friends with everyone) lead to some friendships that I wish never happened.

[@lynnw7155]

I'm of two minds about that story. Children need to be protected. That boy should definitely be reined in (OP didn't say what exactly he was doing. Was he actually harassing them? "bothering" sounds more like he's just that geek that wouldn't stop hanging around them.). In the real (adult) world, women often have to deal with people who make them uncomfortable. I worked in a male-dominated workplace and boy did I have to toughen up fast. I think we need to teach girls to be more assertive: to develop and enforce strong boundaries while still being able to work with people (co-workers, clients, neighbors, etc). Protecting them from ever having to deal with 'inappropriate' or annoying people just sets them up for not knowing how to do it when they need that skill. Having a panic attack and crying is not nearly as effective as having a strong spine and clear message.

[@08marliesm96]

I can see how the rule has also positive sides. Like, it's not unusual for children to outcast a specific child for one reason or another. Often bc they are diffrent, had issues with one of the popular ones etc. And it stary pretty young. Now, I don't believe in absolut rules for the most part as nothing is black and white. And the wat the teacher handelee this rule/situation was plain wrong while the OP was just wonderful, respectful and intelligent.

[@nixxyhasthoughts]

@@lynnw7155 the problem is the girls were being assertive and the teacher was undermining them under the pretext of “include everyone”. They are still young and part of a system that is undermining them. It’s absolutely appropriate for the parent to be involved. Just as if they were in the workplace they may involve an advocate, Human Resources or an employment lawyer. Getting appropriate support is a good lesson. I also think it’s reasonable to assume given that 5 girls have had the same issues that the harassment was just that. It’s on the school to support the boy to adjust his approach, not on the girls to tolerate the discomfort he causes.

[@tamsel814]

@@08marliesm96 yeah, I still remember the time I was the only kid in my class not invited to a party. It hurt and I was too scared to ask why I was excluded. Luckely most bday parties included only like 7 kids so I normally didn't feel excluded to not be invited but when everyone but you can go. That hurts

[@08marliesm96]

@@tamsel814 that's sucks. Especially for a child! So sorry you had go through this. It's also a prime example for not black and white. Normally a child is entitled to only have its fimriends at their party. However if its 19 out of 20 children in one class and the child in question did not bully them, then the child should learn compassion and emphaty and invite the the leftover child. In most cases something like that would also be delibrate and a mean thing to do.

[@anitaallahdin867]

For the OP in story 1 teach your daughter some self defense and I guarantee after she knocks him on his butt he won't mess with her anymore.

[@emilybarclay8831]

Great way to get her daughter suspended and labelled as a violent child

[@animatorstanley]

It's sad that girls and women have to learn to defend themselves and boys and men aren't taught to not be shit bags. 😪

[@qq84]

@@animatorstanley Thank the government for supporting that behavior. - Btw.: Boys also get attacked, but noone cares about that.

[@trashcatlinol]

@@animatorstanley the worst part is, history has proven that girls will be banned from hitting before boys will be taught not to be pricks. Hat pins are great example. Women were subject to harassment, and left with little recourse to defend themselves, so they took to sticking men with their foot long hat pins when they wouldn't leave them alone. It put men in hospitals and in retaliation they banned the hat pins, and did nothing to stop the sexual harassment. Eventually embarrassing the bullies won't be enough, if the authorities in the situation (teachers and school administration in a school setting) refuse to address the bad behavior. Or intentionally or unintentionally defend it.

[@jbrennan381]

@@animatorstanley Plenty of boys and men are taught not to be shit bags

[@immortalsofar5314]

I was taught that violence was wrong. Then I came across people who use the "be nice to everyone" to their advantage and adjusted my stance accordingly. I'm not a good person but I'm very protective towards those who are and I can live with that.

[@trashcatlinol]

Dude, I so want to believe violence can be avoided. I know from experience that's not necessarily so. I have no clue if I a good person, but I am seen as a villain for considering the perspective of a person who's first language isn't english. Either that or I was unintentionally poking holes in a racist fish story. People really hate when you attempt to redirect their anger to the rightful problem, though. Especially when it's obvious your boss is the incompetent one who caused your grief, not the person who could have done a job where she wasn't interacting with an English speaking public. I've been victim of enough violence to know that the world doesn't operate by peace. But that's no reason it shouldn't be strived for. History teaches violence leads to desperation, and people who are desperate are capable of monstrous violence in response. I'm a desperate person, and shouldn't be pushed further. Unfortunately for others, I empathize with others desperation, making me a ticking time bomb at this point. Lucky for them, I'm disarmed. Unlucky for them, I've learned some self defense and appreciate weaponless fighting styles. I might be pacifistic, but I'm not going to let others be treated unjustly if I can help it.

[@immortalsofar5314]

@@trashcatlinol For me, the breaking point was someone who was obviously a sexual predator but everyone was insisting on doing nothing. I was not prepared to accept part of the responsibility for his next victim(s) so I decided on what I had to do. It turned out he had outstanding warrants for r*pe so the cops caught up with him before I did. 3 days before, to be exact. I suppose I should have felt relieved but I just felt cheated of the chance to redeem myself of my initial inaction. Ever since then, if the good people are going to stand around and do nothing then I accept that I am not a good person.

[@flamelily2086]

My grandfather was a quiet person When he was at school he was the target of a nasty bully. He took boxing lessons from the sports master and one day he met his bully behind the bicycle shed and beat the daylights out of him. After that my grandfather was never bothered by bullies. You don't want to resort to violence by sometimes it's necessary.

"Evil triumphs when good men do nothing"

@@immortalsofar5314 Better to be deemed a bad person than to allow evil to flourish.

[@toshi9742]

Story 1: I was forced into non consensual sex at the age of OP’s daughter by a boy in my year. The teacher(s) and school did not follow the protocol and ended up gaslighting me into silence (I was asked to ‘Reinact’ what happened the same day WITH the boy in front of a classroom full of my peers. I felt stupid and degraded and as though I should just shut up and forget about it and so I did.) PLEASE protect your children as, unfortunately, the school will not (or at least cannot be relied on to protect your children). It is a very harsh lesson I had to learn at a very young age and if there is ANY time your child does not feel safe, they need to act on it to ensure they are. This boy may not be as disgusting as the one I met however my case came out of the blue (ie no warning signs- it just happened). If you can nip the risk early on, do it. I’m sorry if I’m sounding too harsh- perhaps in this case he just wants to be friends but NO MEANS NO and he needs to learn that asap and not have teachers- the people meant to be protecting these children- justify his self entitlement to do what he wants. That’s not how the world works and it is extremely dangerous to tech him otherwise.

[@adawongkennedy6570]

Omg, I'm really sorry this happened to you. I hope you're doing ok now. Sending you virtual hugs.

[@toshi9742]

@@adawongkennedy6570 sending them to you as well Xx

[@shy2infinity]

I was COCSA'd (child on child sexual abuse) really young, that kind of thing sticks with you for years! I'm also sending you virtual hugs and hope that you're doing better now

[@toshi9742]

@@shy2infinity Xx

[@trevorwall87]

Schools ofter try to cover it up my neighbours 2nd grader was raped by a 4th and nothing come of it even the police didn't want to listen

[@ashleymcgaha5794]

When I was in kindergarten a boy pushed me against a tree at recess and French kissed me so I bite down on his tongue. The school wanted to suspend me but not him and my mom was furious! She told the principal if they don't punish him as well she will be coming back with the local news to do a press conference about how this school supports the sexual assault of their students. We both got 3 days suspension and I stole his glue 😝

[@LexTime89]

That’s absolute bull. They shouldn’t be punishing children for defending themselves, especially from literal sexual assault. Zero tolerance policies are moronic because the wronged party almost never has any recourse.

[@Citizenesse8]

Your daughter never should have been suspended. The boy definitely but not your daughter. She got suspended for being assaulted and for saying no. That's awful.

[@sophdog2564]

It makes me very happy that you stole his glue

[@Mkay999]

Literally defended yourself on assault. School: well ok if we have to punish her we have to punish him too 😒😒 Absolute bullocks! This is why I’m against dress codes for school. Girls should be able to wear literally whatever and it shouldn’t be “distracting” to poor helpless boys.

[@Gashako]

⁠@@Mkay999before I say what I say, I’ll preface with this: Sexual Assault absolutely should be punished and the victim should absolutely be supported. The clothing thing is what I wanted to get at. I don’t know about America, but most schools in my country all have some form of uniform + dress code. Shine your shoes, wear your clothes properly, cut your hair, etc. This was never explained away as “the girls would distract the boys.” It was always “When you wear that uniform, you represent the school. Wear it properly.”

[@hwiley8141]

Barn burning story. A few years ago my cat got stuck up in the rafters of the shed. She wouldnt come down. I went to the local fire department and asked if they really help recue cats. They in fact, did have a new recruit to train. They showed up with sirens, lights, went all out. Got the cat down. Turns out she had been attacked, took her to vet. Had to assure neighbor , who lives about 1/4 mile away, there wasnt a fire - I live in an area prone to wildfires.

[@lindahoward7309]

The Ukraine story just brought to the surface that the husband is a controlling extreme narcissist ! Get out now and don't go back, they don't change! My daughter spent 10 years in a mess like that. Now it's over but the result of it is that she spent over 2 years recovering financially from his abuse of her, her credit and finances,and now is in therapy and on medication for PTSD.

[@G_de_Coligny]

Nope, just double standards. If the s3x wuz reversed all the redditards would drop on their fainting couches and cry aboot emotional affair…

[@waitwhat1029]

A year late but I hope your daughter is doing so much better now.

[@pamelalaub6204]

My monthly cycle started at 10. By 11 I was wearing bras with a B cup. By 13 I wore a C cup and by 15 I wore a D cup. Not only boys made sexual remarks but also 2 teachers. The principal told me it was my fault for wearing padded bras. He wanted the school nurse check to confirm that. I told him he was another bully. Dad wasn't available but Grandpa went to the School Board and presented my notebook of days, names and events as well as the names of witnesses. The Principal had to apologize and I got me requested transfer to new classes away from the creepy teachers. One was "friendly" and would put his arm around a girl's shoulder and let his hand drop down and graze her breast. He tried to do that to me but I learned to shift out of his reach until I left his class.

[@indiashante1560]

I developed early too. My monthly cycle started at 9. I'm glad you had an adult back you up. I was too shy to say anything. Luckily it never went further than harassment.

[@marybean2231]

I developed about the same. After my first SA I put on a lot of weight as almost a defense mechanism. "If I'm not pretty they'll leave me alone" sort of deal.

[@raveniaelhoran2647]

🤮 how some fricking bleh predator can be teacher 🤮🤮🤮

[@doyouliketacosiliketacos5139]

Same, I cut off my hair and identified as a guy for years to the point I actually thought I was transgender, I just wanted people to not touch me and leave me alone.

[@mimiwhite1963]

I was a c cup at 12. It was like I went home flat and blossomed over the summer. So I experienced lots of harassment but not just by the boy at school. Include girls and even teachers accusing me of stuffing my bra. I even experienced it at church ...an old lady grabbed both of my breast and asked if they were real. In the sanctuary in front of everyone. My own mother was ashamed of my body and let me know.My father as well, he told me men shook their head in disgust when they looked at me. However, it actually just made me mad as well as hurt. I found body acceptance and positivity through belly dance and dance professionally for several years and taught classes part time. I also taught art in a public school for 31 years and the behavior of that teacher is shameful and disgusting. The boy probably has issues but that does not excuse his behavior.

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

for story 1 nta the teacher is bugging like always

[@lilywong9672]

I miss kaichou!

[@naruto456431]

I'm struggling with saying no alot because I'm afraid if I say no I'll lose people I've been in really toxic relationships because I couldn't say no I hope the op realises if someone reacts to their no so aggressively then they're someone who shouldn't be in their life I'm in debt because of it I don't want anyone to go through what I've been through I hope someone reads my comment and sees there's more to life than someone not taking no for an answer seriously I'm in massive debt because of it

[@Krisna_K]

Yep, I was taught the same crap as a kid by teachers! And as a teenager I was used and abused! I was also bullied in elementary school (1970’s & 1980’s) and told to ignore the boys! I had a female bully (big for her age) step up and bully the bullies for me! The boys left me alone after that! I’d had a kidney transplant at age eight and the medications I had to take, mainly Prednisone, caused me to gain weight and others caused me to retain fluid! In hindsight I know it probably wasn’t the best way to handle my bullies but the administration wouldn’t do anything so….

[@Krisna_K]

Still friends with that lady too!

[@Krisna_K]

That one brother is an idiot! My eldest niece looks exactly like me but she’s my second youngest sisters’ daughter! I have three younger sisters!

[@magiv4205]

Bullies who bully bullies are heroes tbh. So glad to hear you're still friends with her!

[@jadedjane6241]

The parent in the first story is a HERO for what they are teaching their daughter. And the school and teacher need to stop that guy to harrass girls

[@Sanquinity]

First story: "My girl's teacher is teaching her to never say no, which is a dangerous thing to do. I sent her a polite e-mail with a clear explanation on why I disagree. Was I too harsh?" Are we so afraid of "hurting someone else's feelings" these days, that people are now thinking just being in disagreement is "being an asshole"? Really?

[@massomouse1556]

As a former bullying victim story makes me cautiously optimistic as in my case 30 years ago my school's answer to my mother asking them to 'defend' me by keeping me in at recess periods was 'no, our faculty needs their break time too'. Apparently I was being physically harrased to the point I was coming home with clothing damaged/torn and muddied, which makes sense, the muddied part at least, as my school had portables that had gullies/irrigation. ditches behind them. Needless to say, the administration must not have wanted my mother to follow through with her threatened negligence suit, because at least any physical bullying, outside an incident or two in 5th grade, basically stopped. The verbal harassment and psychoemotional bullying still continued, even through the party for my 8th grade graduation.

[@julias2855]

I had a bully in elementary school. In 4th grade, I finally turned around and asked her “Why r u so mean to me? What have I done to u? Why do u think I deserve this?” She never answered & stopped. She said hi to me after that.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

Annnnnd that’s how girls get assaulted. (Story 1)

[@alsinakiria]

Yup. Happened to my best friend. She truly believed that a woman does not have the right to say 'no' to a man. It took me a long time to get her to understand that she is equal to a man. She also thought that she had to stay with him because no man will want a woman who has even dated a guy before (not sex, just dating). Luckily he didn't take absolutely everything from her physically. He made her do a lot of things that count as sexial assault, but she did not allow everything.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

@@alsinakiria That is so incredibly sad. I’m so sorry I can’t even imagine. I do hope she’s in a better place mentally now. Genuinely.

[@davoinshowergandle9014]

That’s how people get assaulted, not just girls or women

[@bryn1063]

@@davoinshowergandle9014 Agreed. I'm guessing they said this because it's a lot more women than men, but still. This is why people get assualted.

[@cyndyghost784]

Exactly

[@latoyawinfield8674]

Story #1: It's about time a Parent teaches their Daughter/Son it's ok not to be People Pleasers, set boundaries and stand up for themselves and others. It helps to learn Self Defense Classes too.

[@Serene80]

Story 1 makes me feel glad that my class in school was what I call 'self-governing'. It was a fairly small (about 50 people) class and there was a little actual teasing but bullying was NOT allowed. Not only among students in our class, but between classes. Nobody was allowed to bully anyone in our grade. We put a stop to it the instant anyone found out about it. The teachers and administration certainly didn't do a damn thing...

[@stevebanner5609]

The one night stand baby is one of the BEST stories I’ve EVER heard!! It’s nice to get happy endings on Reddit after all the breakup stories ❤️❤️❤️

[@heelrunner]

Right? It's rare that everyone in the story is a good and decent person.

[@BlondeEyes7]

The story about cleaning the garage sounds like unmedicated ADHD. She struggles with executive dysfunction, and when the urge strikes, it feels very now-or-never, because for her internal motivation, it is. She knows this about herself well enough that she knows she needs to take advantage of it, but she doesn’t know how to manipulate it to her advantage. She doesn’t know how to change her own motivation patterns, so she needs him to work around whatever schedule her brain creates. Diagnosis and learning about ADHD will help her understand what’s happening, and medication will allow her to choose when she can be productive instead of being at the mercy of involuntary brain processes.

[@LiLzZluvinJ]

This is what I was coming to say!

[@bcase5328]

Cleaning/sorting a garage is a full day to multiple day activity and requires formal prescheduling. Such clear outs are better divided into one hour events with both of you on a reoccurring basis. Doing a small area of the garage at a time is best. You both need to agree to what is happening to which item. She doesn't get to bulldoze thru, throwing everything solely because she wants the task finished. This is a time to work out priorities, the why items got dumped into the garage, or it will quickly refill and you will be redoing the clean out again and again.

[@firerosenight6937]

Most adults think that sense they're "just kids" they don't think its serious. I was bullied badly as a kid, such as getting beat by hard cover books leaving bruises. But sense we were all 7 it was called teasing. And they probably don't thinks its serious cause he's a kid. Thinking that because he's a kid its "not that bad" and "he'll grow out of it". But news flash, if its not stopped now, it won't stop ever.

[@qq84]

No, it's because the government doesn't care about your. They support the criminals.

[@kellyalves756]

Ukrainian Ex story: Hold out for a partner that appreciates the fact that you have a kind heart. Your soon to be ex husband is obviously not that guy.

[@markedwards3647]

And is extremely dangerous! Especially when he is certain he can no longer control you. Putin provides a good example of what a sociopath does when frustrated.

[@marybarnes6407]

I bet he's the one cheating.

[@lorifiedler13]

How is contacting an ex, that is in a war torn country, ONE TIME having an affair? It's not even an emotional affair! Husband is either delusional or cheating.

[@lorifiedler13]

@@Lord_Death21 and he is a snowflake of the highest order.

[@TheRockinDonkey]

I bet the ex was blocked because husband felt threatened by him because husband is an insecure asshole

[@literallycringeidk360]

I wish someone had taught be it was okay to not be okay with the way other people act. I could have ended the SA in middle school from a classmate a lot sooner if I wasn't scared of making trouble. Teachers like this make me sick.

[@imbuffysummers]

I literally cheered and shot my hands up in victory upon hearing the update that the fiancé now husband lived! I absolutely adore happy updates!!! Also love how they call her the sister.

[@HealthyObbsession]

There was a boy I’m my 3rd grade class he hated me so much he dropped a chair on my head while I was sitting on the floor Looking back I believe he had developmental issues but that’s not excuse for what he did His mom tried to say I must have done something to warrant her son to take such actions It’s insane

[@littlegreycat]

I’m so happy to hear the burn was cathartic for them! Happy healing and comfort to them.

[@jodycotton9454]

I’m almost 60 and the teacher and her antiquated ideas were the norm. It took me until my 40’s before I could constantly let men know that I wouldn’t put up with unwanted attentions. Thankfully my 3 married daughters know better ways to deal with situations like OP’s. This is especially good since out of my 9 grandchildren, 8 of them are girls. My oldest son is a high school teacher and has had to set firm boundaries with his students as well over the years.

[@Laz3rCat95]

Definitely NTA on the first story you're sticking up for your daughter as you should. You are absolutely right, it is her right to say no to any unwanted advances.

[@lainywatson3349]

Love the stories of girls standing up for themselves. I got harrassed by a guy in my friend group for a while, I was unbothered for a time. One day he went too far, and he found his head smashed into a locker door. He then chilled out a bit. Years later he approached me in the street. Asked for a hug and apologised for being such a dick in school and said he deserved it. 😊

[@incineroar9933]

Those kind of teachers need to stop. I was 17 and in college, and my french teacher used to force me to work in a group with this really creepy 40-50 year old woman who wouldn't leave me alone. She kept going on and on about how she was really "robbing the cradle" with me, as she knew how young I was. It was do gross and disgusting and I was so scared that I asked my mom and her 6 foot tall, built friend to come in to my final exam and wait outside for me. The teacher just wouldn't do anything for me. Whatever her name is would raise her danged hand and tattle on me to the teacher when I would rather work on my own to try and force me to join her group, and the teacher would try to make me join the weird, touchy lady I clearly didn't want to be near. Day of the final, my mom and her friend hung back, I was trying to study, and the creep came up and kept trying to get my number/got super close to me, and it was so nice to have my mom and her friend swoop in and stop it.

[@A.n0neeM0usee]

Yay your mom and her big friend ❤️. Great bodyguards. Sorry old creepy lady creeped on you.

[@gottathinkupanewone]

Story one: I only wish my mother had stood up for me when I was being harassed in school. Instead, she always decided she knew the perpetrator's mother and made excuses for the bully or harasser, telling me that I just needed to learn how to handle situations better. Story two: the husband sounds like a gaslighting control freak. He needs counseling, but probably won't get it. He also needs to get a dictionary to define what "adultery" is -- and that it can't be done by text! I doubt his misapprehension would stand up in court, but I'd be interested in, say, Judge Judy's take on his claim.

[@AliceinOverwatch]

the fact i got teary of him saying "should I leave a couple pages blank" and the reason absolutely got me xD

[@Oleandra-13]

The wife/husband fighting over cleaning the garage really resonated with me. I wonder if she's got ADD? It can cause some really quirky urgency in some situations because it's like I'm racing the attention span of the crack monkey that lives in my brain.

[@SCUBASUEReynard]

Poor woman with twins. I would dump that “friend” who has a crush on my husband . And is feeding you insecurities to make your life miserable. Most lovers paint your body like playboy airbrushed models. They never see the faults unless you keep harping on them . She needs a weekend away from the kids with him. Even if it is just at home.

[@elevin8858]

Older Gen x woman here. I was told at school to be accommodating and “nice”. Eventually I was attacked by a classmate just outside the girl’s locker room after late practice for my dance team. Word of advice: dancers have powerful muscles and the ability to high kick. I spent weeks terrified that he’d tell on me. Turns out he was terrified that word would get out he was beat up by a girl.

[@thebigmystery7841]

School bully stories like this INFURIATE me and Im so glad that mom had a good head on her shoulders. Growing up I was physically bullied horribly and any time I spoke up I was "emotional" and "will cry if so much as touched." The reason Id be crying is because I was being shoved by a group of boys into the mud. Like, body to body until they shoved me into the dirt. Parents like her make a well adjusted human being. Which I am not. Everyone should take advice from her.

[@moodycrab77]

Ex in Ukraine story, I am sorry you had to find out what a selfish jerk your partner/expartner is. But on the bright side the trash took itself out. Small blessings. Edit; I shouldn't comment before the story is done, OMG op married their stalker, glad someone is helping her. WTF

[@jaymevosburgh3660]

Seriously! Crazy ass stalker. Wow.

[@michaelplunkett8059]

Print up the definition of adultery ashe is a loon.

[@shahana_style]

I almost did the same thing. That dude is batshit

[@arleneroberts8886]

My granddaughter had the same issue, brothers. She stopped them both by going after them. Now they are being bullied by all the kids they were bullying

[@markwright1503]

Excellent ! A long one to hopefully entertain me while I can’t sleep ( dam leg pain !) it’s 3 am here in the uk

[@283lovebug]

ME TOO..DAMN LEG PAIN

[@mgaus]

Inclusion does not mean no boundaries. Inclusion means not excluding someone for an inappropriate reason. If the reason is because that person's behavior towards me makes me uncomfortable, that's different than reasons like: 1) I don't like the color of that person's skin 2) I don't like what that person does in the bedroom 3) I don't like how that person dresses Anyway, I'd want to know why the inclusion rule supercedes the group size limit rule. But for the "men and boys are evil" people, get all the way bent. The facts could just as easily be reversed.

[@johntingle455]

To the teacher who wanted Op to meet with her and the principal ....email her and confirm the meeting...tell her that you and your attorney are anxious to meet with them.

[@michealwatts7469]

That mother in the first one is awesome and I'm glad she stood up for her daughter. I can relate to that kind of experience in a different way I suppose. Not a girl but when I was a kid aside from the bullies, the girls stepped over my boundaries as well. Its not as well known as girls getting theirs broken but its a thing. Girls know how to set boundaries (good stuff) but never when to abide by them since I would say in a lot of ways they aren't told no, at least for my upbringing. Whether it be family, cousins, friends, school mates, work mates etc. When I say no to something I have been called gay (or the slurs that follow which are just.. reprehensible) or not a man in some fashion. Bullied into the behavior through manipulation. Then when I had an issue I was gas lit for it.

[@kategallagher5610]

These stories make me so grateful for my family, I have three siblings that would never do any of the things fam members do in these stories. I had the best mother too. She raised us right and it worked.

[@tarawhitt6441]

Honestly, I wish we had the "threat" of media back when I was young. I am 30 now, but when I was in 7th grade; I had a 'friend'. We were enemies, at first, and called each other names every day until a teacher heard us calling each other, "Bitch." He sat us down and said we should be friends first. I should have trusted my gut more and stayed away. However, we listened to his "be nice, ignore your feelings." Then, we were great friends. Until another person entered the picture. 8th grade; new person tells 'friend' that I am not a true friend unless I set her up with my brother. So they both turned against me. Taking advantage of my 'need' for friends; they would invite me with them to a place and ignore me the whole time. We went to the fair, they took me off somewhere, we went to the bathroom and then they left me. Alone, crying, I just went to the front of the fair (by ticket booth that we came in) and the person handling tickets let me stay with her. The 'friend's' parents came up because they were going to get something from their car. They saw me and I told them what happened. I asked if I could call home. We went to a pay phone and they let me call my parents. My parents drove an hour, furiously, to get me. Yelled at 'friend's' parents when they got there. After that, I was bullied until beginning of 10th grade. In the meantime, we had talked to her parents, our church (because I not only went to the same school, but went to the same church as her), our teachers, our vice principal, the principal, the superintendent, the mayor (who advised us to go to police), and finally talked to police. They would only do a restraining order, but she could get out of it by doing community work. My dad said, "f it. Just punch the girl in the face. She'll back off then." My other 'friends' said the same. She called me, "crater face." Then I had it. I took of my earrings, finished my lunch, then confronted her in the lunch room. Asked her to leave me the f* alone, pushed her over, walked off, she came up & punched me in the back, then we fought. Teachers and students had to pull us apart. She lost a tooth and had bruises. I was unscathed and ready to keep going. Principals & teachers ran to see if it was true about their "pet" (me) and kept asking why and why I didn't come to them. I swore at them and told them I had and no one did an f*ing thing. Told them to leave me alone because I knew they did not give a sh*t and I was done being nice. Principal called me in and told me that she stated that I pushed her down, got on top of her and beat her. I asked him if he wanted the truth, or a lie? He looked at me funny and said the truth, of course. I told him my version. Then said the same to him as I did the vice principal and teachers. Called him the coward who sits in his office all day and doesn't help with sh*t (it was true, he'd call vice principal to deal with things instead). We were sent to sheriff's office, in town. They put us both in the back seat. She rambled the whole way up there. We gave our versions of the story. As soon as I heard my dad outside, I was so happy. Sheriff asked if that was my parents, said yes, and he took me outside to meet them as my 'friend' covered her face and hid behind her backpack. I laughed and walked out. My dad started to explain to the Sheriff about everything, he held his hand up and said he could already tell. She was the bully and I was the victim. He said sometimes you have to take things in your own hands. Said she should back off after this. Everyone said she would back off. She didn't. Came at me harder because I 'won' the fight and embarrassed her. It was 'my' fault that she was in the situation, that she was in. After that? I dropped out. Went to home-school. Later dropped out of it and went to get my G.E.D. (Have a BS in Accounting at this point). But that is another dangerous lesson. Telling kids that their bully will 'back off' if confronted. No. Not always. Sometimes it gets worse.

[@Wikita007]

Honestly, the mother's e-mail reply was so badass and true.

[@imbuffysummers]

Damn the bio dad who finally found OP must have some incredibly fast and strong swimmers!

[@mimikiryuu]

Omg I've never had someone articulate HOW I do things so well. I also get the urge to DO and get frustrated when my other half isn't doing step 1 for me to get through step 2. I also can't plan a cleaning day any further than a day ahead unless it's a DEEP clean. Otherwise, I'm completely unmotivated and end up not getting much done out of frustration. I've walked around a dirty room for a few minutes, trying to figure out where to start and getting frustrated because IF ONLY I DIDN'T PLAN THIS DAY. My brain will zoom and jump with confusion if I'm not properly motivated and in the zone.

[@craftymom3159]

I had a BAD concussion in 6th grade, this is important later. Come 7th grade,, I ended up with a bully/admirer? who decided to thump me over the head with his HUGE binder several times a day whenever we encountered each other in the hallways. I asked him to stop, it gave me massive headaches. I tried reporting him, nothing was done,as there were no teacher witnesses. My friends tried to grab him and give him what for, ( a mild beat down) it STILL did not stop. What finally got it to stop, at almost the end of the school year, was the day that he hit me the last time and suddenly my arm snaked out and grabbed him like my life depended on it. I then pummeled his arm until I just could not hit him anymore, then I walked away. He ended up with a HUGE bruise on his arm, and never came near me again the rest of the time in that school. In fact, 6 years later I saw him in town with his mother. He looked up, saw me and walked away as fast as he could. School did nothing, my mothers advice was "to ignore him", it took me deciding this was no longer going to continue for it to change. I suppose that I am very fortunate that he was probably too embarrassed to report me, or else I would have probably been suspended. Yes, kids need to know that they can say no.

[@naturalPaths]

Re: boy trouble at recess. What the heck. Back in the 1950s, I was the girl who punched ‘that guy.’ He used to snipe kiss girls. This was US grade 4. He was the same guy who said girls could not be doctors, because girl. Truth. All of it.

[@MrsGump]

The fire story. We live in a small NZ country town so out local fire brigade is volunteer. Our daughter had a car accident 2 yrs ago & had to be cut out of the car. We could've sold it for scrap (like $300) as it was written off, but decided to donate it to the local fire brigade as we were SO grateful for everything they did, so them & he next small town brigade could use it for practice with the jaws of life etc. They were stoked & we were pleased to be able to show our gratitude!

[@normajeanettevaughn425]

Tell the teacher the boy is stalking and stalking is against the law thus if it continued you would call the police.

[@littlegreycat]

This is like the Best of Redditors grouping. Sensible advice, sensible OPs. Smart choices by so many.

[@klaythoring1326]

I remember being taught I had the right to autonomy and my body etc…which was immediately invalidated because an older boy at preschool daycare kept pulling my skirt up and I was told to not let it bother me. That’s one of MANY damaging experiences, and those parents banding together made me want to cry with happiness ❤

[@jimmiedmc1]

I would have responded to that teachers email with I would more than happy to educate both you and your administration on bullyimg sexual assault sexual harassment victimization boundaries and the right to say no and the right to feel safe and in school and obviously you guys are lacking in that so please schedule the meeting ASAP

[@littlegreycat]

I wanted to say thanks for grouping all the posts with updates!

[@melvinyoung3474]

Any divorce based on adutry should be very carefully examined. Sometimes that excuse is a way of hiding their own adult or something else that may be worse.

[@Joe-kb1sm]

7 kids in my family growing up. born back in 1956, old school. Mom taught me to respect others, Dad taught me how to fight. Inner city high school bully had a knife, 3 kids took it from him & school called cops. I was one of the 3 kids, it got me a date with a cheerleader. Bully grew up to be a loser with zero social skills and no job skills. Cheerleader was my first girlfriend, She taught me some of the skills she had. It pays to be respectful to others.

[@rodrigosoto5035]

The true fire is the friends we make along the way

[@ryntintynvin]

My friends and I were bullied constantly by the boys in our class. The teachers would always say, “that means they like you!” and never addressed it. It went on for years. I bumped into one of them as an adult. He cold shouldered me with a smirk after a mutual friend “introduced” us. Obviously no one ever put a stop to his bullying behavior, so surprise surprise, he’s still doing it 15 years later.

[@hekatsees9449]

Rich Girl Story: “I’ve had stuff in my fridge longer than you’ve had this BF”… I love, love, love that comment. That comment says it all. OP doesn’t really know her BF, even though he’s been hanging around for a bit too long. Just because he’s been in her life for 8 months, doesn’t mean OP knows who he really is…(Like who the hell knows what the stuff in the fridge has morphed into; lol.) I found out that 8 months is not necessarily a long time if a partner is hiding who they really are. And I’ve found out people do hide their true selves in a relationship. The BF’s true nastiness of self just came out sooner than expected due to the shock of finding out OP comes from real wealth… It threw his feeling of power and control off…

[@bcase5328]

2:02:21 This guy is a winner. Rich Girl's ex-BF is a loser. It is a matter of attitude and maturity.

[@___LC___]

Story 1: Bring a lawyer. It will change their reaction very quickly. It isn’t going to far.

[@trashcatlinol]

That barn burning one, getting ahold of the fire department is the best approach. Burn permits are there for a reason, and yeah, they might be more than willing to help! Glad to hear they could let that horrible memory go up in flames. That closure is very important and will really help with their healing. The training bit is exactly what happened in my husband's department. Any place that got condemned became a training home, and it's hilarious as hell to see a bunch of firefighters get giddy for a chance to set something on fire. That story made me smile. XD good riddance to bad rubbish!

[@hwiley8141]

Man in car accident: by the wording of the post, the OP bought the house with her ( then) fiance. The inheritance of the house is dictated by the deed or title. There are three scenarios here: joint tenancy ( usually with right of survivorship), tenants in common , and tenancy by entirity. First scenario means if one dies, their share goes to the others automatically. Tenants in in common means if one dies, the will ( or state laws) decide. Tenancy by entirerity also has right of survivorship, so share goes to the others automatically. A will cannot change the right of survivorship.

[@OuchingTigerLimpingDragon]

🇦🇺 Great video, Markee!🇦🇺 I went to Google to double check that I had the right flag for my comment... and I ended up learning what Tim Tams are and now have a burning desire to do a Tim Tam Slam. Curse you, America, for not thinking of Tim Tams first!

[@amyyaku5022]

S1: NTA. Though I remember another story about child boundaries and it involved the inlaws and OP's son and daughter. The son didn't feel comfortable hugging their MIL. To make a point, FIL bought candy for his granddaughter but not his grandson, and OP stood up for her son. But, a lot of Redditors said ESH and YTA for "overreacting". Crazy how child boundaries aren't so important when family is involved (tho OP never said that MIL did anything inappropriate)🤦🏽‍♂️ Garage Story: NTA. It boggles my mind how the wife just assumed her husband could read her mind, and that Redditors expect someone who works 70 hours and only has one day off to do anything around the house 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@kristinicole2055]

Omg I hope this person did not apologize on paper for adultery. s/O was trying to get proof to sue OP for cheating.

[@TimeladyV]

Good on Op for making sure her daughters boundaries are respected. I have a 17 y.o. daughter who happened to develop early, making her a target for teasing and inappropriate attention from several of the boys at school. She went to her teacher who just said boys will be boys and just to ignore them. One day one of the boys went to far and tried to kiss her..she calmly took if her heavy school shoe and hit him over head with it. She used her shoe because, quote, "I didn't want to touch that (the boy)." She's been brought up to have firm boundaries and to defend herself if those boundaries were crossed. She's a strong young woman and I am so proud.

[@lynsthoughts3576]

Story 1. Perfect letter and honestly put the teacher in her place. Hope she puts teacher in her place AGAIN at the Principal office. Since when does a teacher FORCE someone to entertain a bully? If that was my child I would push for that teacher to be removed from the school system for encouraging bullying

[@MrsGump]

The Will story. As soon as we had our first child we had a basic will written up (not really any assets so was pretty simple). When we had our 2nd child, bought our first house, sold it & bought the house we're in now - we updated our wills each time. It's easy to get ur lawyer to sort out the will (& ours did it for free as we were paying big bucks for the house stuff) when you buy a house. Also, make sure SOMEONE knows who ur lawyer is or has a copy of ur wills or details so they know who to contact when you die

[@annewilliams3874]

Story 1 :-to OP - Keep letting letting your daughter know she hws every single right to say "NO!" ESPECIALLY IF SHE FEELS UNSAFE. We CANNOT teach our daughters on the one hand to defend themselves and say no to anyone with whom they feel uncomfortable, then on the other hand to MAKE them to ACCEPT THE VERY PERSON(S) WHO MAKE. THEM. UNCOMFORTABLE. WITH. THEIR. PRESENCE., CONVERSATION., ETC. A little bit of consistency, please, is all that is being asked for. Thank you and please remember that EVERYONE deserves respect. NTA.

[@James-sq4sc]

My mother loved using tears to manipulate my feelings. She’d hurt me and then act like the victim when I was openly upset. She kept me from developing boundaries

[@DaniS398]

I have boys 3 and 6 and even as young as they are we are teaching them about respecting and setting personal boundaries.

[@Frazzled_Chameleon]

Stalker girl is gonna kill that man if he ever decides to marry someone who is not her. He doesn’t realize that he’s just feeding the crazy and creating an even bigger green-eyed monster. Worse yet, she could hurt/kill the woman she sees as her “love rival”.

[@ChaosCron1]

She's emotionally abusing him so bad. I hope he gets the support he needs to seperate himself from her.

[@skyelindsey687]

The stalker friend one. The boyfriend made a post as well. People ripped him a new one and he still chose stalker over his GF & friend group

[@Trumpeter252]

If the bullying between the boy and op's daughter doesn't fall under sexual harassment don't use f****** sexual harassment. If it does then do but going straight out of the gate labeling the boys sexual harassing when that may or may not be is kind of scummy

[@seabreezeblank1513]

He's cheating and he's just looking for an excuse to frame her for the divorce that way his cheating doesn't come out talking to someone through an email or on the phone is not adultery

[@lindajarvis9965]

You do not have to like everyone but you need to be respectful and your daughter was. So we’re you. This boy needs to learn to also be respectful, no means no.

[@kristinewatson3702]

Gross! That woman was essentially manipulated into marrying her stalker. What kind of freak is that?

[@emo7636]

I'm happy the school issue was sorted out. However, I disagree with completely abolishing the 'include everyone' rule. Why can't it be a compromise with 'include everyone, within reason'.

[@flamelily2086]

Story 1 NTA No child should be forced to be with another child who is making her feel uncomfortable. OP is quite right and the teacher is wrong. It doesn't sound as though the daughter was cruel. She just said that she didn't want to work with him. The boy is already learning how to push himself onto a girl who doesn't want him. The kids are being taught that girls must give in to boys no matter what. That is not a lesson we want our daughters to learn. There were other incomplete groups the boy could have joined. OP was right to go with the parents of the other girls involved. If more than one parent is involved it shows there is a real problem that needs to be addressed.

[@pipachu6516]

40:53 the entire reason my parents recently got legally married was to avoid his heavily estranged family from having a say in what happens to him in the event of his death since his job decided to prove just how dangerous it actually was (he drives a mixer and had a tire nearly blow while driving over a bridge)

[@warpthumr47]

😂 I have 4 sons, & about 15 years ago, I had them help me clean out the attic & after the 3rd trip to the dump, they mildly complained about why we were doing it. I told them that they'd thank me someday when there was less crap for them to sort thru after I am gone. They said, "Mom. We're not going to sort thru stuff. We're just going to take it all to the dump." I told them that that was fine since I won't be here. However, their dad & I separated almost 4 years b4 he passed away early in 2020 & I helped them sort thru his things & clean his home to sell. They all kept something of his as a keepsake, & as their only living parent (they are ages 30 to 38), I KNOW they will do the same thing with my crap, lol. I'm an RN who spent her entire career as an acute care (mostly ER) nurse & after my ex died, all 4 were so freaked out about me working in a hospital during the pandemic & possibly losing both parents in the same year, that I chose to retire a bit earlier than planned. Best...decision...ever.

[@shahana_style]

Ari is an awesome mother!! I'm so glad OP has her ass a sister.

[@CarlottaHall]

NTA. Teacher is teaching the boy that he doesn't have to listen when a girl says NO. This IS sexual harassment by legal definition. (Source- I am a nurse who has just finished my refresher Sexual Harassment class.)

[@SneakySalamander13]

For the burning down the building thing, for sure check with fire department. An old building in my Grandmas county that used to be a general store was found to have cases of old dynamite from the 1930s. I have heard of a lot of people who have old ammunitions rounds, tourpedos, etc. they kept because they "looked cool" they later found it had live explosives in it. Gotta be careful when you burn old sheds. Never know what is hiding in there.

[@daviddow8150]

The mother should call the principal and say she will be bringing a lawyer to the next school board meeting

[@CannibalChxrry]

Teachers don't care about bullying. Nor do principals. It's always swept under the rugs until the student gets in a fight, a parent dares them to punish the bullied student for standing up for themselves, and getting threatened to sue. My mom and I both had to warn them and tell them I was bullied. I fought and won against my bully, teacher tried to give me suspension, but I came to school the next day, told them I wasn't suspended, and my mom dared them to do something about it. If they did anything she would get a lawyer and take them to court.

[@naoko7184]

The schools do this garbage to boys, too. When my son was a kindergartner he was banned from going on a class field trip he’d been really excited about. His crime? Lying on the ground in a fetal position while a bigger, older boy kicked him repeatedly. I pointed out that he hadn’t been a participant in this “fight “, he’d been the victim, as witnessed not just by teachers and students, but multiple parents as well. The school’s response? We have a zero tolerance policy on fighting. Complete garbage.

[@doloresreynolds8145]

To the OP who had twins and is feeling insecure and unattractive: give your body a chance, it just created two whole new human beings! And, you are both tired from having young babies, so that can affect your emotional state. It sounds as though your husband is happy and satisfied with the family you have created together. Hormones will eventually level off, and you will feel better, but if you explain to him how you are feeling, your husband will help you, I feel certain. Open up to him, because communicating takes practice, and I hope you feel happier soon!

[@GrumpyOldFart2]

“I don’t think it lasts that long”. Nuh-uh. I was in an in-patient facility for Depression (not suicidal, but seriously depressed and was down to 97lbs. because the sight of food made me nauseous). There was another patient in there who told me she had given birth, and after NINE MONTHS, after struggling and trying, her husband and she decided enough was enough, and decided going in-patient was necessary.

[@emilybarclay8831]

Teaching children they aren’t allowed to say no creates abuse victims, and sometimes children are excluded by their peers for a reason

[@francinetitherington4060]

Yes, and sometimes kids are excluded by a bully and their followers, kids who go along because when someone else is the target it means they aren'.

[@francinetitherington4060]

Yes, and sometimes kids are excluded by a bully and their followers, kids who go along because when someone else is the target it means they aren'.

[@francinetitherington4060]

Yes, and sometimes kids are excluded by a bully and their followers, kids who go along because when someone else is the target it means they aren't.

[@francinetitherington4060]

Yes, and sometimes kids are excluded by a bully and their followers, kids who go along because when someone else is the target it means they aren't.

[@francinetitherington4060]

Yes, and sometimes kids are excluded by a bully and their followers, kids who go along because when someone else is the target it means they aren't.

[@toomanyhungrycats0554]

I found acting like a psychopath quite efficient when dealing with school bullies I would chase them down with a creepy terrifying killer smile then run the opposite direction when he rounds a corner

[@juliehawks2987]

I went through the same kind of crap but I only dealt with the teacher. I told her that I was shocked with the behavior coming from a female. She should have stood up for fellow females.

[@warpthumr47]

The paperwork stating what you want done if you are unable to say is called an advance directive.

[@Jozzie1987]

That guy that considers a text as cheating...oh boy. If I were the girl I’d say, “Bye Felicia! I do taxes for my ex. I do taxes for a living and do friends and family for free. Not a secret, have no issue if my husband asked to see the texts, just trying to be a nice person. My husband doesn’t mind.

[@beckypolly2635]

A good suggestion for a gift would be a scrapbook of your life up to the point of meeting him

[@paranormalsoulz]

22:14 holy shit she married her own stalker

[@Scarlett.Granger]

Oh my gosh, the one with the cleaning the garage is 100% like my mom. She'd say something, even just mentioning like "oh we had a lot of family vacations at (location in country)" when i learned the language and suddenly she assumed that we all talked about and agreed to go there the next holiday or something. Or she'd say "oh did you know X" and then someone said "oh, actually not, its Y", and then she'd be like "I never said X" (repeating what she said). And if you told her "U literally just said (repeating her exact words because it was 2 damn minutes ago)", but she'd insist that wasn't true, even if like six other people tell her thats exactly how it happens. That makes me so crazy. If someone knows a way to handle this, please tell me, I'm at a loss.