AITA For Getting Engaged To My Ex-Husband's New Girlfriend's Ex-Husband? r/Relationships

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

Obviously both OP’s ex and the other ex were having an affair, blowing up over nothing and accusations of cheating are all signs of projection. Also obvious that OP’s ex is alienating the kids from OP and I hope she regains custody.

[@ElleD308]

I don't get how the alienation of the kids came as a surprise 🙄

[@eph2vv89only1way]

I was going to say the exact same thing

[@Nielak-dg8nj]

Dude, Ill never underestimate how daft some people can be. He separated and moved in with another woman the second he left. How do you come to the logical conclusion that OP is the one that cheated? My college roommate hated his mom because he thought she cheated. I had him explain what he remembered of the divorce and his step mom just happened to show up around the same time the divorce was happening. The dummy refused to believe that his dad was lying for like 6 months after.

[@eph2vv89only1way]

@@Nielak-dg8nj They said OP’s ex was cheating, not op

[@KhaosChilde97]

@@eph2vv89only1waytheyre talking about the kids believing it, not commenters.

[@ceraunoashe9134]

That title was a flustercluck to read...

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

Read it 5 times on Reddit and couldn’t really figure it out, either. It hurt to read.

[@Mehp2]

I know. I had to reread the title twice to understand.

[@league-of-shadows]

NGL I love this look for OP and I haven’t even started the story yet.

[@kentario1610]

​@@league-of-shadows a power move for sure

[@colleens1107]

That was pretty much my thought

[@juliearmfield2634]

Story 1. Nta. Jenny had the audacity to ask Terry why he didn't ask her permission before doing that first. Well did Jenny and Kevin ask for his and op's permission before they started cheating? No. Oh ok then.

[@pippo17173]

Their ex's are basically realizing their marriage is falling apart when both of their supposed rebound are moving on.

[@trashotaku]

I also get the feeling that OP‘s ex-husband and even potentially Jenny has been filling her and her ex’s kids heads with lies as a way to get back at “betraying them“

[@Marstic666]

"How insensitive when they were on a break due to fighting" I howled internally at this. Guess that grass isnt as green as Jenny thought it would be

[@brandyanderson3522]

I would have said something along the lines of , "And yet, still not as insensitive as moving in with each other while going through a divorce."

[@CaroleHarrison-r9m]

It also sounds like a them problem... Why are the people upset they got together...!? It was okay for the other two to get together!

[@Mew_Mokuba_Akari]

​@user-db4cb5hn7t Husband and his toy wanted to see their exes, especially OP, broken and crying. He was an AH he first wanted her alone and miserable hoping she would be pinning for him. Then he'd break her further by getting full custody. Lord knows what lies he's told people. Same as his cruelty he did to his youngest. Telling people she's been cheating on him and his youngest isn't his and who knows what else. His new girlfriend? They just happened to meet up after the divorce. He was totally not cheating on his wife. No that was her. Why do they believe him? He told them first. They likely don't know the timing from the time of the divorce to hers to their getting together. If they did they wouldn't believe him.

[@owl7072]

Story 1: I refuse to believe Op's ex wasn't cheating with Jenny. He accuses her of cheating, immediately moves out and lives with Jenny at the first opportunity, Jenny who _happened_ to get divorced around the same time, and then they reveal their relationship a few _weeks_ after the divorce was finalized??? They already didn't get a say in who their ex does and doesn’t see, but they especially lost whatever right they might have somehow had after _that._ As long as they're safe around the kids, it doesn't matter who your ex is seeing. Edit: That one commenter never heard the term 'projecting' and it shows.

[@LunaP1]

I'm with you on this. And the fact the exs weren't happy that OP and Terry found someone new shows how much of a narcissists they are. They even accused them of cheating and got their flying monkeys involved.

[@errantwinds-up8uu]

I came here to say exactly this. Hypocrisy much?

[@juliearmfield2634]

Oh yeah they were definitely cheating.

[@TheVeggiekat]

If her ex wants full custody OP should bring up how the woman he was living with got a DUI with one of the kids in the car. Shows the type of home her ex is providing.

[@elizabethcox5911]

Exactly!

[@sammieh9695]

She needs to go for full custody and she can still let them have a relationship with their father. Having full custody means she can protect the kids mental health without ex interference.

[@WhtAbtBob10]

Story 1: "I don't want full custody because its important for the kids to have their father in their life." Why? The guy just tried to steal the kids and probably won't stop. OP should go for full custody.

[@jumpmain]

1. The ex clearly cheated. It's not only alienation is also emotional abuse to the youngest one. If I was her I would have prepared an ancestry test, so this guy doesn't get away with what he's saying

[@taurusDIVA1979]

"Why didn't you check with us first " ... the audacity is astounding.

[@jamaicangirl8933]

So, hold up before the ink was dried on the papers those two move in together and then when on a baecation to announce them being together. You guys wait 4 years, and people are saying you guys are wrong for doing that

[@Frazzled_Chameleon]

Jenny and OP’s ex are discovering that they’re not compatible. They threw caution to the wind when they had their affair and let themselves get carried away in the forbidden fruit feeling of it all. Now that they’re “going through stuff,” they won’t have their exes to fall back on. I bet Jenny is really regretting her life choices right about now.

[@Floratic]

I had to pause the first story around the 17:00 minute mark. Having 50/50 custody only makes sense if the other parent is a good parent! He is not a good parent. Feeding them lies so they alienate you? Telling the youngest that he may not be his? This man has the full audacity knowing the fact that he is the cheater.

[@lifewithoutstress2684]

OPs ex was cheating with Jenny. Now dad is doing parental alienation because he is jealous and upset she moved on.

[@randomusername3873]

I wish people would profusely thank the family threatening no contact for introducing the topic Like "thank god I wanted to stop talking to you all for a while but was afraid of the conversation, thank you for making thing easier"

[@brandyanderson3522]

I can say from experience (not to family but when acquaintance/ member of a friend group) these are the same people who then get upset with you for not being upset for losing them.

[@brandyanderson3522]

But sadly, I think that's actually in reference to her sons.

[@sandracox4341]

To the commenter who said everyone glossed over, Op said she was cheating " Op didn't say she was cheating. Op's husband accused her of cheating. It sounds like op's ex husband was projecting.

[@KE-hr4sb]

S1: NTA. Your ex and Jenny were obviously having an affair. Why aren’t your family mad at THEM for getting together? However it also sounds like your ex has told people (and well as your kids) something to make them all turn on you. File for parental alienation, and sit the kids down and ask what they’ve been told about you and Terry. Ultimately, you’re allowed to be happy, with who makes you happy. And this scenario happens more than you’d think!

[@bloxnirogaming5269]

Story 1: I think op should fight for full custody as it sounds like Terry might even be a better father figure than OP's ex.

[@maryfrancesobrien2420]

not a good reason

[@TiffWaffles]

Two of the children are at the age where they can make their own decisions. The ten year old might be able to be fought over, but I feel that they are watching their older siblings and are being influenced by them and their other parent.

[@laurenjones9924]

So exes get to have an affair and when the ones that were cheated on get together and find happiness, they’re suddenly horrible people? Are they serious?

[@dodgyyoutuber9560]

The chiropractor BROKE his NECK in FOUR PLACES?????

[@ndawn90]

Yep, this happens with chiropractors more often than they like to admit. Another things that can happen with chiropractic adjustments include triggering strokes and ripping blood vessels in the neck. That's not to say that no one should ever see a chiropractor, but people should absolutely be aware of the risks and should avoid certain adjustments, such as those done with a Y strap.

[@LovestarVGC]

Chiropractors are just modern snake oil salesmen with better intentions

[@QueenOfTheZombieApocalypse]

To the point of the foster system: the more people like OP and his wife that take in kids when they can, the more foster resources can go to kids who truly have nobody which improves the system overall

[@diamcole]

S2: Honestly, she wouldn’t have been a monster had she said no. His own family said no, the insinuation that she should be ready to take on the duty of raising him is extreme.

[@faeriefire78]

Another case of "I don't want you, but I don't want you to be happy with anyone else. Buzz off and die alone while I live my best life." And his reaction of accusing her of giving him a gift from her imaginary AP is so wildly lame that it can't be anything but the weakest attempt to leave her, but make it her fault. Like, why even bother with the illusion if you won't put in the tiniest shred of effort in passing off the lie? Just leave without all the extra steps. 🙄

[@denises3630]

I was really loving how OP fell in love with Terry and how they both did so good handling the relationship preproposal before it blew up with everyone. Her ex husband is horrible and could have done permanent damage to those 3 boys with the lies. Kevin and Jenny were definitely having an affair! They belong together, in misery 😄

[@emeraldjewel26]

I want a terry. He sounds perfect.

[@rainforest1219]

Story 2: Funny how OP assumes we will all hate the wife. The wife has my full sympathy in this situation. Sounds like she is in an impossible situation.

[@Draggonny]

I get why he was worried. It sounds really bad when you say you're scared to bring something up with your partner. Like they're going to become abusive or something. It's really hard to live with someone who has trauma because they can be unpredictable and saying the wrong thing can give them a panic attack. I have PTSD so I knew what he meant but not everyone has personal experience with being in a relationship with someone with trauma. He just wanted to know how to approach the subject without causing her emotional harm. Sounds like he got the advice he needed and it went well. With how quick she answered, it sounds like she'd already been mulling it over.

[@gcarr1089]

Story 2 -Wonder if the wife wanted to speak to OP too about bringing Levi into the home, as I'm sure the daughter would have been telling her mum she was scared of what would happen to Levi.

[@league-of-shadows]

Only 6 minutes in and I’m going to assume the trash ex was cheating with Jenny and that he alienated his kids from their mom. YUPPP. Oh my word. OP needs to force a paternity test for their 10 year old to prove to the poor kid his father’s lie are lies. How could you do that to ANY KID?

[@CherylMcMinorrr]

Story 2: my friend had a similar situation when we were kids, she lived with her brother’s dad and stepmum. It was a good home for her.

[@annalau2596]

Story 1: The story was so messy that everyone just skipped over the chiropractor who broke his neck on 4 places. 😮

[@Draggonny]

That is sadly a risk you take with chiropractors. I'd take a physio over a chiropractor any day. This isn't as much of a rare accident as you'd like to believe. I definitely couldn't blame the guy for a temporary opioid addiction when in that much pain. It sounds like he's recovered well from the surgery if he's still a volunteer firefighter.

[@Annu-Song0404]

Free Markee from the jail cell

[@juliearmfield2634]

Someone should start a GoFundMe for him for his commissary. 😂

[@robinronin]

The title melted my brain, can’t wait for the story to inevitably do the same 😂

[@juliearmfield2634]

Yeah but they messed up on the title instead of new girlfriend it should have said mistress

[@Rairyuujin]

As soon as my family would have said they were disgusted with me and that they wouldn’t attend my way, they would have gotten a “f*cK off then and lose my number”.

[@momo382844]

I’m sure it wasn’t an easy decision but I’m glad the wife agreed to take the little brother in. Sounds like she loves her daughter more than she hates her Ex. That’s maturity. Also, shoutout to OP! This could have been one of those evil stepparent stories. I wish nothing but blessings for this family going forward. 😊

[@Its_like_the_T-Rex]

It sounds like the ex's are unhappy with their new pairing and see how happy OP and her new Fiancé are. The grass isn't greener on the other side. OP's ex husband has anger issues (tossing an unwrapped rolex) and the Fiancé's ex-wife has issues with the kid's last names (contol issues). They sound like they deserve each other and the only good people in those ex-relationships happiler found each other.

[@tamicablanding]

The ex is going to be soo pissed when he realizes he messed up the marriage and really didn’t cheat. Also I hope OP listens to her parents and don’t let them around the kids

[@tartlynerdy]

Story 1 - First I was like "ha. He's projecting". My second thought was that op upgraded to a better man and her ex can't handle it. It sounds like Jenny can't handle her ex husband being happier with another woman. Kevin sounds like he's trying to punish op by weaponizing their kids. You know he was telling them a bunch of lies. I'm glad op got through to her kids. I'm in agreement with the lawyer. I don't think the kids need a father willing to mess with them psychologically just to hurt their mom. (What kind of dad tells his son he might be an affair child).

[@Nikki_81]

Story #1: ... Terry was not "ADDICTED" to the painkillers. He had a valid reason for taking them, and unfortunately, his body became "dependant" on them to function... Unless he was taking them beyond what the doctor prescribed or was going out and trying to buy them off the streets, he did not have an addiction! So many people are uneducated when it comes to painkillers and use incorrect wording and judge people who do take them properly! Having a broken neck, 2 surgeries and only being on the painkillers for a year and a half, that is impressive and not at all an addiction!

[@poohbear4515]

That’s a mouthful title Lawyer is right about full custody. It’s nice that OP wants the kids to have some kind of relationship with their piece of shit father, but really. She’s an idiot to not really take in that he basically poisoned their minds in order to hate her. Does she really want her kids to continue to see him after all that and possibly try to do more harm to them than he already had? Not every kid needs both sets of parents in their lives.

[@dwtardisallonsy]

The title alone was already so much tea and then 🎢

[@Zenohbia]

The last story isn’t going to be a surprise when they adopt her ex’s son. Only thing keeping her from becoming attached to him died. Her ex can never use her love for the boy against her so she will be her regular loving person once her mind processes the safety from further abuse.

[@pamelajohnson6425]

OP absolutely should go for full custody to protect her children. Have them give official written statements (perhaps witnessed and verified by the therapist, with consent) attesting to the lies and emotional abuse from the ex and his AP. Those statements can be given to a judge in the custody case as evidence that the ex shouldn't have custody, or unsupervised visits. Given how much projecting he's doing, both he and Jenny should be drug tested, as well. And Terry might want to get a paternity test for his kids.

[@Lillireify]

Two videos today?! You're spoiling us!

[@OuchingTigerLimpingDragon]

First off, loving the cowboy hat on your avatar for that brief time. So funny! Second, I've had awful and abusive experiences in foster care, *BUT* I've also had some really wonderful experiences as well. For context, my bio home was often more horrific and abusive than foster care ever was, so there's that. It's really a toss-up, but Levi will be in a good home with OP and his wife for sure. That's the really important thing.

[@shellieburgoyne9555]

Story #1: OP deserves to be happy….her ex is DEFINITELY putting bad information in his kids heads. Unfortunately, kids end up being the victims because parents don’t agree on things. I feel like some of this story describes a lot of my teenage years. My stepmom and my nibblings treated me as a complete stranger when I HAD to spend the weekend with my dad…..basically her 4 kids were aholes to me. My dad snuck into my sporting events without telling his wife 😮 🥰 My stepmom got cancer and died….My dad married my 2nd stepmom (1st wife’s cousin) and she has made him happy. As an adult…..my nibblings still pretty much ignore me. They NEVER include in their plans, they are all drinkers when they get together…. I do not drink due to health reasons. So I am EXTREMELY ticked off at my middle brother, because he spends a BUNCH of time with them outside of family gatherings (he lives in another state)….I’m NOT jealous! I’m pissed off because he has no clue that our nibblings completely treated me as an outsider!!!! NTA!!!! OP has nothing to be sorry about…..I’m sorry this happened to you. It really sounds like Terry is going out of his way to ensure your kids’ happiness.

[@alyshaengle6346]

Always excited to listen to your videos while I work on things!

[@pippo17173]

Can people just go full nuclear on cheaters with kids. Throw that crap in the garbage and make them lose their access for the kids. These people are using them to put you down and quite frankly, its very obvious the two are not happy with each other at all.

[@goatkiller666]

OMG - People are dissing her for being a “secretary”? That job is hella-important. That’s like being a senior NCO in the military. I mean, sure any lieutenant from from ROTC technically outranks you… but even most officers avoid drama with senior NCOs. She controls who even has access to the exec she’s working for. In a corporate environment, don’t ever start anything with a secretary. They have so much soft power that their lack of hard power means nothing. I mean… even if your proposal is good, antagonizing the secretary to get it in front of the executive… If she’s on your side, you’re prolly in. If she’s NOT on your side, even the best plans can crash and burn. I mean, there’s a reason that the “secretary to the big boss” pays better than people actually doing the work. Pay heed to why that is, and you’ll go far.

[@anniedeedrix6732]

Go for full custody , ur ex can’t be trusted , he manipulates and lies to the kids

[@EternaMidnight]

Story 1 yeah it's obvious the ex husband is telling everyone lies about the situation. I know OP would prefer to keep her life more private, but right now ex husband is completely controlling the narrative to the point of alienating her from people, so I think it would be worthwhile for OP to talk to these people to clear things up with the truth. The biggest thing I want to scream is OP's new relationship and engagement have nothing to do with the state of her ex's relationship, like jeez, her life and the rest of the universe don't revolve around him.

[@trashotaku]

17:46 this is exactly why I will never trust a chiropractor and think they’re all a bunch of BS

[@trashotaku]

Yeah, The first story is very much a case of “person A from couple 1 and person C from couple 2 have an affair, get divorced from their respective spouses, leaving said spouses single. Person B from couple 1 and person D from couple 2 end up spending more time together, end up realizing that they have really good chemistry, fall in love and start a relationship. A1 and C2 are at this point potentially now miserable or not as happy as they would’ve hoped in their new relationship and see that their former partners are far happier together than they were with them and are now mad/blame their respective exes. Now A1 and C2 are trying to make B1 and D2 miserable so they can get satisfaction at being happier than their exes”

[@lynngrant533]

Awesome story! Thank you and good morning from Prince George, BC 🇨🇦 😊

[@monkeynumbernine]

It really is eye- opening to look back in history at your parent's marriage, and see the cracks...where it finally broke down.

[@vt4880]

Story 2: damn he just manipulated his wife into taking care of Levi. After all that abuse she suffered from her ex and he still can’t take no for an answer?!?! Just because he’s shooting blanks and can’t have no kids does not mean his wife has to suffer. His wife is gonna be in therapy for life. The update is definitely not gonna be good 😮

[@kristenhlady4079]

2:30am to 9pm, that leaves 5 hours of sleep thats if they go to sleep by 10 pm! Thats not good for you, be careful !

[@annamarczuk2030]

That's also the reason why she has no relationship with her children

[@Davtwan]

First sentence and the ex already shows signs of projection. What a loser

[@potatoempress5731]

Story 1 is such a common plot for local dramas here but Terry is a Stardew Valley farmer.

[@annamarczuk2030]

14:05 she works from 2:30 AM to 9 PM??? No wonder she has no relationship with her children if she doesn't even have time to sleep.

[@Suilimani]

I can’t believe the parents will cut off their grandkids because two people dared to get engaged. What a bunch of delusional idiots they and the cheaters are

[@maurer3d]

Story 2: This has to be something your wife wants to do, it isn't something you can talk her into. The best thing to do is to ask her to think about it, and accept her answer. And, yes it is best for both kids to have a relationship, but that relationship does not necessitate him living with you. Just court mandated visitations with each-other.

[@phoenixblade8315]

The wife is a strong person in the last story. Very graceful. Despite her pain and suffering, she isn’t lashing out. I hope the best of OP and his family.

[@jess-bo98]

15:47 Damn is someone cutting onions in here? 😢😅 I'm not crying. You are 😂

[@Cjaj2]

story 1: completely off topic, but am I the only one concerned with how reliant OP is on Terry? she went from being a department manager to his secretary/part-time farm worker. to each their own, But I don't think people should work for family let alone a spouse. Family can get messy very very quickly and I would never want my financial well-being tied to that. unless she's an equal partner I would strongly encourage her to find employment that's not provided by Terry.

[@EH-dw3wb]

Story 1 is giving me flashbacks to those crazy chiropractor videos with attractive girls on Snapchat. I have not and will not trust anyone who makes money by manipulating my joints and bones and hoping for the best that they don’t make it worse.

[@SorenPenrose]

I wondered after reading the title of this was my mother’s post, but nobody divorced anyone until after they were together for a while.

[@jazzie-sanbelle99]

I like how this guy wants the siblings be together ❤️ stand up guy in my book

[@coreymartin6486]

The ex is unhinged in manipulating his children to cover up his own cheating.

[@chiarafonzi9613]

I'm Italian and the English I know, apart from school, I learned by listening to videos and films online, and let's face it, it's not that easy to understand everything they say. in fact I never understood the introduction of the video well until a couple of weeks ago when Markee said it very slowly and I understood that it's like throwing a prawn on the barbecue and I thought it was an Australian way of saying. and maybe it is and maybe it isn't. but today watching Bianca and Bernie in the Land of Kangaroos (literal translation of the Italian title) with my nephew I heard the albatross say exactly that phrase, in Italian though, that is, let's throw a prawn on the fire, and a light bulb kind of went on in my head. so... is that an Australian saying or is it an overseas way of making fun of him? 😅😅😅

[@BriannaWeldon]

That work schedule is CRAZY! 2:30a-9p+?! And still making UNDER what she previously made. Is he marrying her for the employment???

[@heatherdickau5335]

Story 1 Op was too complacent to the point that she was willing to give up her kids. She was not fighting for them. She even skipped a game. She should have been working harder from the start to figure out why her children flip-flopped on being with her. She just accepted it. It never entered her mind that her ex was lying to her children. She needs more therapy to grow a spine.

[@InvasionAnimation]

op 1 better fight for full custody. Replacements are good.

[@nightmare_jeanie]

So, story 2 actually hits close to home. My husband got divorced but before it was finalized his ex had to babies and due to local laws his name was put on the birth certificates even though he wasn't biologically their father(lol he didn't even live in state). He eventually was able to prove paternity by threatening to take the kids away to live with him preventing the grandparents from ever seeing them again. Anyway, years later he and i were married with our almost 2 year old son while i wss pregnant with our second when we got a call about his exs kids asking if he would be interested in taking them in. He and i discussed it for a week and decided that if the kids had no one else, then yes we would take them in. Luckily the kids were taken in by blood relatives but were unfortunately seperated due to having 2 different dads.

[@BulletTooth504]

Me: read title of video Also me: "Do what now?"

[@debc6260]

I feel like 2nd OP is manipulating his wife. He cannot have children and really wants a son. The whole "Charlotte is lonely, maybe she should spend more time with her brother" feels guilt-trippy. Maybe I've heard too many Reddit stories.

[@MysticMae21]

Or maybe he loves Charlotte and doesn't want her to lose her brother to a foster system that will ruin the kid when they are willing to keep the sibilings together now that the abusive ex is out of the picture.

[@venusbleu5764]

I thought I was the only one thinking this especially when he continued to further provide detail helping wife's case unknowingly instead of his. I'm sure he genuinely loves the girl but it was a very self serving move even if it is well intentioned.

[@madgevanness4011]

A lot of good reasons, and if one is a little personal, so what!?

[@venusbleu5764]

@anness4011 not personal, manipulative and self serving because it's his only chance to be a dad multiple things can be true at once. i guarantee if this guy could have his own kids he would not be dying to take in a kid who wasn't even technically his stepchild. well intentioned with selfish reasoning can absolutely be a thing, so what?

[@Swnsasy]

Absolutely NOTHING wrong with what OP and Terry did.. They aren't messing with their ex's siblings... The father is doing this because it makes no sense that everything was fine and then all of a sudden they get engaged and now OP can't move on but their father can 5yrs prior??

[@gigicat3943]

Ah yes - ultimate "ex revenge" So many people in the universe and the two just happen to hook up.

[@josepherhardt164]

Before I even begin, I want a diagram and a score card.

[@SCUBASUEReynard]

The trouble is that mom is selling and moving. They are extremely upset over mom moving out and away for a new family and boyfriend. The X blew up his life as he was having an affair , and projected onto his wife.

[@MissAyame89]

NTA you can’t throw a ex spouse away and then think you can tell them who or what to do. 😂 Ps adults don’t need to tell kids about their personal dating life. It’s not their business. Kids are kids. Not your friend or equals.

[@hubbachubba1]

Lol! They have to ask permission from the previous spouses who probably cheated on both of them. Your relationship, your business.

[@RabbitOTN]

Another day, another prayer that they find Markee 😔

[@angeleyesgreen1586]

Idk why people only remember full custody as an option. You should go for primary custody if you're the person who cares for the children most of the time. The other parent gets partial custody. There's also 50/50. Full custody means you have the only say in all decisions. The other options mean you have to agree with your ex on the important sh*t.

[@goatkiller666]

Does anybody else find it weird to refer to someone 50+ as a boyfriend/girlfriend. Like… I know it’s the best word to describe what’s going on. But I feel like we need a new word for the older age bracket. I can’t give a good reason for feeling this way… other than people 50+ aren’t boys or girls anymore.

[@bunny23275]

Hope everyone have a good day!

[@Goddess_Aleu_White_Wolf]

Story 1: it sounds alot like parental alienation op should talk to her lawyer

[@analisaacosta974]

Good morning from the US 😊

[@hildatorres2581]

“ I finally could tell the kids the truth”why no tell them when divorcing they ere old enough to know and understand

[@ashlaraque4135]

It’s honestly so wild to me that this woman described emotional abuse, emotional manipulation through gaslighting and serious lying, stepmom, trying to get her children to take her last name, really just some fucked up shit and she’s just like “I don’t want to go for full custody, children need their fathers” what the fuck is wrong with people????

[@averycheesypotato]

Society is big on the importance of fathers, especially those who blame all of society’s problems on divorce & single mothers. “Even a bad father is better than none,” supposedly. No matter what happens, OP is probably going to get flak for not doing enough to keep the kids’ father in their lives

[@ashlaraque4135]

@@averycheesypotato everybody’s different, but the way I work is I analyze the situation and if it’s not logical, then I don’t go forth. Peoples opinions of me or their feelings are the last thing on my mind. So maybe I’m just being insensitive lol.

[@averycheesypotato]

@@ashlaraque4135 I’m not saying OP was right to think that way, but it would be easy to doubt oneself in her shoes. I hope she goes for full custody in the end

[@kpopdisco2330]

The only thing I'll take away from this story is : Im right to never want to go to the chiropractor... ever... cause what do you mean "broke his neck in four places?!"

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

Bad take away.

[@KpopOpinionator]

While almost everything in the story was resolved ,but how could people casually not see op kids and not come to her wedding because of Kevin and Jenny . Shouldn't it be the other way around .They both definitely cheated and made their relationship public after few weeks of divorce and now OP and Terry are the bad guys ?Like what is actually the information gymnastics they did to justify this move ?

[@benjie128]

Lol this is what my cousin did. He was dating one girl, had 2 kids with her. She left him. He started dating a new girl, who has an idential name, but spelled differently. Turns out the new gf's ex is his old gf's new bf. And cousin's new gf has 3 kids with her ex (cousin's ex's new bf). And with cousin's ex having a kid from a previous r'ship (which we kinda adopted into the family anyway), means they have 6 kids with very blurred lines of who dated who and when.

[@muhname6052]

I had to make a graph to understand what was going on.

[@benjie128]

@@muhname6052 ngl, i had to graphic it out when it was explained to me. I had to read the title of this video a few times to sort it out.

[@benjie128]

I will add, there's no hostility that I can see, from the outside. And aside from cousin hating his ex, they all co-parent for the kids. And all 6 move around so one couple can have regularly scheduled times without kids, bc their exes have the kids.

[@rowdysgirlalways]

You're a smart cookie, Markee!

[@Siinwu]

Hi Markee, hope you are acclimating well in you cozzy padded cell. ♥

[@libravore]

This is the Shania Twain story, the home version.

[@maurer3d]

Story 1 (before update): YTA (but only slightly), you moved an hour and a half away, without thinking about the logistics of it. Of course one of you is going to need to get full custody. Sadly legally, in cases like this the parent who moves, usually loses. So you are going to have to live with only seeing your kids on weekends. Unless you can prove your ex is filling your kids with lies, this is your future. Story 1 (after update): Fight for your kids, your Ex is a POS, for lying to your children like this. Story 1 (Side Note): For the love of everything holy, DO NOT go to a Chiropractor for spine and neck pains, all they do is cause more injury Yeah you might feel a little better for a few days, but the added damage is not worth those few days.

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

There are Chiropractors that don't do what the mainstream tells you.

[@SixYearsCounting]

The title sounds like the plot from a soap opera.

[@TheRockinDonkey]

Chiropractors are quacks

[@ajb7530]

OPs ex and Jenny, or anyone else have no right or say in OP and her new man love life. OP and Terry are single, they got together, so they are in the clear. I wish OP and Terry best wishes in their future. OP NTA

[@NotAFanOfHandles]

17:42 Soon as she said chiropractor, I cringed. Despite what many people think, chiropractors are *_not_* medical professionals. There are multiple instances of chiropractors breaking people's necks, spine, etc. Don't put yourself at risk by going to a chiropractor. Stay safe and see a licensed physical therapist for treatment instead.

[@elizabethcox5911]

Reminds me of the movie Cousins.