Mossberg MC1sc vs S&W Shield

[@Moon-Rocks]

I just shot 100 rounds through my Mossberg mc1sc this past weekend and it was flawless and accurate! I had a great time.

[@kateajwood4129]

Aaron Ray still love it? No problem?

[@Moon-Rocks]

@@kateajwood4129 Yes. I carry it everyday and I also went through a stage one training and it shot flawlessly. Any inaccuracies was on my end. Even the trainers were like, what? Mossberg mc1sc? They were very curious and wanted to see it. I was surprised they hadn't heard of it. I'm just waiting to see what magazine extensions will actually work on the Mossberg mc1sc that was made for the Glock 43. I know for a fact that the Taran Tactical extensions do not work with it because I bought one and tried.

[@richdk3081]

Just got the wife one Saturday it is her new CC weapon

[@bouncingbetty3636]

Love my MC1sc, it is a great little subcompact

[@cjsteele9594]

My son bought me one, i love it!!!!

[@ranram370]

The takedown on the MC1 lends to more detailed cleaning, which is one of the main points of a takedown.

[@avatargunner6776]

In about a week or two I will be buying one of these but without the safety. I actually like how it breaks down not because it makes it safer but because if this is a gun I'm going to be caring to protect my life or my family I would like to inspect everything making sure the firing pin isn't cracked or looks damaged. Can't wait to get mine. nice video

[@tedebear108]

Hello Ted here. Thank you for the In-depth look at the Mossberg. I was very curious of it myself. Good video keep them coming. Talk to you soon.

[@jasonshumiloff4594]

Owner of the mossberg mc1sc of about 6 months. I've got about 400 rounds through it. Had some trouble at 1st (returning to battery issues), but it's been flawless since my 2nd time at the range. Sights are metal and can be replaced with Sig #8 sights. It comes in a lot of different options, safety, no safety, mounted laser, stainless slide and a centennial version. Its very clear a lot a R & D went into this firearm. Mossberg did it right......

[@ronhascents3581]

I definitely have a decision to make tomorrow. If I purchase the mossberg it won't be with the safety. Both are great guns.

[@BryantBaudelaire]

I have both of these firearms and love them both. I carry the MC1 the most along with my Ruger LCP 🙌🏽

[@gerrymatheson4020]

My initial gut reaction when I saw the Mossberg was positive. I like the look of it. The aesthetics of a gun are important to me. Obviously if good reliable function isn't there the aesthetics is irrelevant. But if it doesn't look good to me and feel good in my hand I don't care how reliable or smooth it is I'm not spending the money to add it to my collection. I don't mind the magazines on this. I actually really like the idea of transparent mags. The safety is my big potential deal breaker. I would prefer no manual safety (my Shield has no thumb safety). This one seems extra easy to accidentally engage. I'd want to disable it somehow so your thumb couldn't push it in. Or better yet maybe they'll come out with a no manual thumb safety option. 🤞

[@stevencarusone8778]

I’ve had this pistol for quite awhile. A couple of things . One I have the model without the safety and it’s a much better gun in my opinion. Why would you need 2 safeties. The one on the trigger works well on its own. Secondly the mags I found out are very durable. I unwittingly tested one by running it over with my full size truck by mistake. Aside from some scrapes it ended with no damage and works fine. My suggestion is switch to the mossberg . I also have the shield and in my opinion the MC1 is a more accurate pistol.

[@vinny2976]

Let me preface by saying that I own an original M&P Shield w/safety, which I bought when it first came out. It's been a great carry gun that I rotate in my EDC routine. I am very accurate with it and feel at $400 or less, it is a great buy. I use the 8 rounder mag for added grip length w/IWB DeSantis cozy partner. When introducing friends to shooting, this has been one of the guns I've brought to the range along with revolvers and semi-autos, including Sig's, Glocks, Rugers, XD's, and others I own to familiarize them with shooting. I've recommended Shields to first time buyers considering a semi-auto, due to having an optional safety and reasonable price point. I do not have experience with the MC1, but was at the range on 11/14/19 having two guys in the lane next to mine experiencing difficulty with FTF's on their MC1. They had a Sig with them which was shooting fine, but could not get thru one magazine with the new MC1 without a FTF. I finished shooting and was checking it out along with the Range Master. This was brand new using FMJ ammo, so I don't know if they cleaned and lubed it initially. They had pulled up a KZbin video on their phone and were looking up lube points for the pistol. I asked if they had lube and offered my S&W gun lube that I had in my range bag with me. They got a little farther with the next mag before another FTF. I left shortly after that, but offered that it could be a mag issue or just needing a good cleaning and lube. I mentioned that I've had to send back some guns with an RMA, to Sig, & S.A. to make them right. Being a first off pistol by Mossberg, they may need a good break-in period initially for some. Overall, my M&P's have never hiccuped on me, with the Shield being a great bang for the buck, IMHO.

[@xgyra]

Nice comparison. Good coverage of the specifications and details of each.

[@EJ_Cruz]

The sights are not polymer on the mc1sc

[@semiauto3148]

I have the shield m&p performance center. If the mossberg is half the pistol if will be a good one to have...I like the looks of it..

[@Rumpleskin]

Mossy on sale for 299 at sportsmans outdoor superstore.you were correct.any stock tips lol

[@rickyperkins232]

The Mossberg is the gun of choice so without a doubt I will purchase the MC1

[@TheMad0ne]

Go with the shield. It is tried and proven. You can't go wrong.

[@chriszablocki2460]

There's a model of the MC1 without a manual safety.

[@hasanmichael4966]

The Shield 2.0 sells for around $325, I would pick that over the MC1. I don't like Plastic sights. The one thing I do like about the MC1 is the palm swell on the backstrap. I don't like the safety, but I bet its easily removable. I have a Shield 1.0 and upgraded the trigger to the Apex Duty/Carry. What a nice difference. I think the Shield is a great little handgun. Also, even though the Shield sights are nice, I upgraded to the XS Big Dot. I can acquire sight picture much faster plus it has a front night sight, I just feel that any SD handgun should have night sights or a laser/light combo.

[@MehulKamdar]

I bought the MC1SC because I wanted to buy an American made pistol (I have some of the competition too) and I really like it. The price is very reasonable and my pistol has proven to be very reliable and nice to shoot. Available holsters are also very inexpensive. The Shield looks nice too.

[@RockawayCCW]

So, the backplate stops the slide from going forward? Is it robust enough to prevent cracking the back of the slide after a few thousand rounds?

[@KirkWinterrowd]

Nice comparison. I just got my cross bolt safety MC1SC and look forward to taking it to the range this weekend.

[@sais9221]

Thanks for showing the MC1 with the safety! Is the safety ambi?? Im very interested in switching over from my shield cuz im left handed and use thumb safety.

[@MarksmanTV]

Yes, but from the right hand when you push the safety inwards, you are putting it on safe. From the left hand, when you push the safety in, you are taking it off safe.

[@emptyboat7]

You can switch the safety on the shield. I used to do it for my daughter who is left handed all the time.

[@sais9221]

@@emptyboat7 Didn't know that is possible. Will need to look that up. Thanks!

[@sais9221]

@@MarksmanTV that sounds like it can work for me. Thanks!

[@crankygunreviews]

Good side by side review. I'm really not sold on the Mossberg though. I just think they look kind of goofy, and really I don't like the takedown procedure. More parts to remove are more to break or lose and if you need to make a gun so idiot proof that you don't have to pull the trigger versus just teaching people to always triple check to see if it's clear before pulling the trigger... I have not shot the Mossberg yet, I just don't like the way they look. I guess I may need to borrow one to try. I also don't like the safety, but again, I haven't shot one, so maybe it's not so bad

[@devildog3246]

I normally EDC a Performance Center Shield 9mm, but I think this would be a good option in my rotation. I would opt for the night sights and no safety though. This pistol does feel good in the hand, and from what I've seen in reviews shoots very well. Great job Chris. Now get it to the range for a range review.

[@daleboyrdm]

How does the safety function? Does it actually lock the trigger preventing the striker from actuating? Or does it just block the striker from impacting the primer? I.E. meaning that if you were to engage the trigger while drawing or some other mishap you would have to disengage the safety, then rack the slide to re-cock the striker and spit out a perfectly good unspent round out of the chamber?

[@robertsilver5130]

It's a cross-bolt safety, locking the trigger when engaged. A few other observations since I've had the pistol for a year and a half and carry it daily: the sights are steel, not plastic; I really like the trigger and reset -- very comfortable and predictable, surprisingly so for a relatively inexpensive pistol; it is extremely accurate (meaning, "I" shoot this subcompact pistol more consistently accurately than I shoot some other comparable pistols); other than a couple of very early hiccups, I've had no malfunctions of any kind over 1500 - 2500 rounds with a variety of ammo, including hollow points and remanufactured stuff; the polymer magazines have been very durable to date, although I generally ignore the flush 6-rounder and just stick with the 7-round extended magazine (I purchased two more); while a little light on capacity given the recent offerings by Sig, Springfield and S&W, I find it very slim and comfortable to carry. Anyway, thanks to Marksman TV for this well done overview of Mossberg's slick little pistol.

[@harmonics2012]

Great review brother, I just saw the Mc1 sc for the first time and I saw it being shot on the range and the groupings were looking pretty good, I did like that you can use Glock 43 mags. I would have to hold one in my hand to see if the fit is good. Keep up the good work, I am subscribing!

[@sethotoole3472]

Thanks for the upload Chris

[@BillHimmel]

What about accidental mag releases on the mossberg? The mag release is much less "protected" than on the shield or an xds! Was this a problem? Did you have to adapt your grip a lot to avoid that mag release button?

[@stevelucier8346]

Thoroughly familiar with the 1st generation Shield gritty trigger and I've fixed horrible ones without a Apex kit. People try to make an argument as I've seen the trigger loop bar with horrible worn machine tooling marks so bad they were like a very aggressive finger nail file plus the most common block ruff surface. People tell me it isn't the trigger loop bar it's the block. Well for most that seems so while I've seen both the problem in the 1st gen Shield. You can carefully polish using magnification so you can see not to polish through the case hardened surfaces. If you polish through the part won't last long. Parts are very cheap though. If you put in a Apex kit why not polish the contact points while they are out? I know they are tiny however getting a mirror finish improves the action even more. I'd stay with the Shield also.

[@BryantBaudelaire]

I have both and love them both!

[@jerryh9307]

The shield plus kinda put a hurt on the mossy

[@Thebeachjam]

My mc1 has no safety..does glock make a 7 or 8 round mag for a 43?

[@sweetcostarica]

*The MC1's Selling point* I did not know how *from easy to easier* disassembly of the striker/firing pin area was so important in *CCW self-defense* that we are discussing it so deeply and it could mean the possible end of the Glock 43 (that the Mossberg MC1 "accidentally" wink, wink, after 100 years mysteriously copies). Amazing! *The MC1* & MC2 The Bottom Line that Mossberg is going for: a cheaper, lower priced Glock 43. That is it. *The MC2* The 3rd Mossberg handgun the "MC2" will be a clone/copy of the Glock 43X. This will also be an "accident" and it will use Glock 43X mags.

[@hasanmichael4966]

So does the striker hold the slide on the frame? How odd.

[@suziohug]

I see the mossy has a straight trigger . I always thought triggers were curved because my finger is curved, the part of the finger that comes in contact with said trigger . Is this flat trigger for people who have a flat trigger finger .?

[@homerv9654]

my mc1 failed to lock the slide back after firing the last round. I'm using the 115-grain Winchester white box and 147-grain federal.I tried two different mags and always failed to lock the slide. I've shot well over 500 rounds but it always failed to lock. does anyone else get the same problem?

[@trocha419]

Where the hell do you guys live!? These two guns run in the $400 where I live in south Florida.

[@900stx7]

I picked up one for $349 at Academy in Baton Rouge.

[@kyleblakeman8726]

They are around 390 in OHIO right now. Pretty great price I think

[@thechad74]

$275 in Massachusetts but that was with a discount. $300 normally that was 2 years ago

[@oceanbelow]

Just bought one w/ 2 packs of ammo for $338 in Bama

[@jasonrebello5630]

I live in communist MA and my mc1 was $340 brand new 3 months ago

[@billwyatt2449]

I am left handed are the release and safety on the Mossberg reversible?

[@jeffbigbear1766]

If you lose gun parts then you gonna lose the bullets too. You shouldnt have a gun. Im happy with my mossy without safety, carried Israeli style thats fine with me. S&W had too many f ups over the years too slap dash. My Mossy soo accurate. Those plastic mags are lite. And the price spot on for a family man.

[@donaldwortham1661]

I just cant get over the rubber grips. Reminds me of a tauras

[@900stx7]

I don't think either gun has rubber grips. I know the Mossberg doesn't.

[@Adetokunbo03]

I held both yesterday neither have rubber grips

[@brettmcclain9289]

DLC coatings are diamond like carbon coatings.

[@trezmunguia4561]

Mc1 is compact with sig #8 sight and glock 43 mags

[@sergiomuniz9242]

Shields are no less than $329-379.Not sure where you get your info.

[@tonysasso9588]

Good job I like mc1

[@Megames2012]

The MC1sc is a Glock 43 with more features, but at about 100 bucks less, and the Gen 1 Shield is the same price as the MC1sc at 350, however the Gen 2 Shield is 420. Also, you can get the MC1sc without the unusual safety.

[@Murphy82nd]

PSA has been selling Shields for $250

[@Megames2012]

@@Murphy82nd Doesn't include the transfer cost, state tax (if it applies to your state), and background check (if it applies to your state). The Shield goes for 350 and the 43 goes for 450, at the gun shop I work at, and we can get the MC1sc for about 360. Apples to apples.

[@Murphy82nd]

@@Megames2012 background check is part of the transfer in literally every online transfer I've done (unless you meant shipping costs). That's $20 for the transfer and $17 for shipping. Tax applies either way if it's applicable in my state so that's a wash. That's $287. If you want the all in costs fair enough, but even finding the cheapest MC1 sc I can online and there's still $50-$75 difference between the two.

[@Megames2012]

@@Murphy82nd First, that's not apples to apples; apples to apples would be getting the prices from the same website. Second, here in Oregon, there is no sales tax, however there is a 10 dollar background check fee.

[@Murphy82nd]

@@Megames2012 as the buyer my concern is the lowest price I can get. Some sites are willing to discount certain products more (such as a product like the first generation Shield which has been on the market longer), hence why I looked it up that way and treated the internet as a whole as one store. Why would I deliberately pass up a better deal? However, I'll play along. That $50-$75 price difference I gave? It also applies to at least some websites that stock both pistols (such as SportsmanOutdoor and GrabAGun). As for your background check fee, sucks to be from Oregon I guess. Add that in if you like though, and you're at $297.

[@emptyboat7]

There is no way those trigger pounds are right.

[@leesamuel100]

Walter Nyne agreed, that seems extremely light when a regular striker fired trigger weight is like 6-7 lbs

[@MarksmanTV]

Yea, looking back at the footage it looks like the scale was pulling from the very bottom of the trigger on both pistols. I will retry the weights again and post my results.

[@victorwright4898]

I picked up the mc1sc for the first time last week. The trigger is a true delight.

[@InAllSeriousness88]

U have any Veprs in stock?... :) asking for a friend if my wife sees this

[@MarksmanTV]

Haha. Yes, I have one in stock. Side folder 7.62x39

[@slkric1724]

Can you compare MC1sc vs APX carry model vs PPS M2?

[@kateajwood4129]

Slk Ric APX is too heavy

[@davidtate166]

Got one coming Mc1 349👍its 😎

[@christopherwg4236]

Mc1sc sights are not polymer, but steel!

[@Megames2012]

How does the G2C compare to the Ruger Security 9 compact?

[@CRJPilot30]

Sights on the MC1 are not polymer.

[@christopherwg4236]

Ya, don't know why he said that.

[@412hwc]

i love my mossberg, first gun n saved my lyfe twice already buuut it does not shoot steel casing. brass only. havent tryed hollows yet either but its the beat gun u can get for the price.

[@anthonycather8035]

Good choice! Love the looks curious on how it saved your life and very curious of your carry ammo if not using hollow points ? If you have time please reply especially about the carry ammo I’m considering purchasing this firearm thank you

[@412hwc]

Anthony Cather i have some remington 9mm luger 115grain from walmart in it. the first time i had an 8$ box of steel casing on it. i live in really bad area and somebody tryed robbing me three days after i got it. i had the steel case in it and got off three shots before it jammed but it was enough to back the guys off me. the second time there was a shoot out in my yard between two groups of people and i was able to pull out and get off a full clip and control the situation before the police came. that situation i had ny brass ammo in it. also i dont have a safety on mine. and i got the gun for $315...but its a great gun. feels good conceals good. it doesnt feel plasticky at all. even the high end glocks look cheap to me. its a good gun bro. id buy it

[@anthonycather8035]

412hwc Thank you so much for your reply and Thank god you are alright ! Too bad you weren’t warned about using the steel cased but worked out ok . So you use 115 gr brass obviously now as your defense ammo ? That’s funny u say that about glocks I owned a 43 and felt the same way about how it looked and felt worked on the east side of Detroit had to draw it at a gas station but thankfully that was enough to deter them . I love the way the mossy looks but never had my hands on one so your input is very appreciated thanks again . I also have considered using 115gr fmj Fiocchi Ammo for my carry for reliability to me it’s all shot placement and penetration and that stuff will go through car doors ect. With no problem. That is a great price you paid hopefully I can find the same . Also I like that it will use the glock 43 mags which I know are very reliable. I wish you the best of luck and good job being prepared for these situations my fried it most likely saved your life . Not to pry and don’t want like to give advice to people especially with experience but ever think of carrying something with a little more capacity considering your situation? Not that I’m implying you don’t have a lot of money to spend but I’m always about a good deal as long as it’s a quality piece. I was going to recommend something like the new Taurus G2C I’ve heard great things about it and it can be purchased for about $200 will give you double the rounds almost without reloading. I have held one of these and they feel very nice in the hand just haven’t shot one . I just love the looks and size of the mossy . Feel free to reply anytime thanks again ! And good luck 🍀

[@412hwc]

Anthony Cather i actually went to buy the g2c but it was just a little too bulky for me. i have kids and they dont like seeing me walking around with a gun on my hip. trust me bro, just go put the gun in your hand one time. its good size feels really solid. and i like that it shoots the walmart ammo. all that matters is that i can keep the bad guys away from me. i would love to carry something bigger with more capacity. but for now im pretty much set on the mossberg. just take a look. remember no steel casings though. but its easy to clean and care for. take it to the range and try a bunch of diff ammo and see what it cycles and what you like. hope you buy it. you will be happy. take care brother.

[@anthonycather8035]

412hwc Thank you very much I think my heart is set on it just hope to find a good price and I take your word for it about how it feels in the hand just by looking at it you can tell it’s a perfect grip especially with the 7rd mag in it . I totally respect your concealment for your children I have a 10 yr old daughter and feel the same way . I was originally going to buy the g2c myself I wouldn’t recommend something that I wouldn’t buy . But to have this mossy I think is a step up and just so damn cool looking idc what people say I care about how my firearm looks especially paying a few hundred dollars for it . But reliability and comfort are most important of course. Nice talking to you bro ,best of luck my friend I’m sure you will do a fine job keeping the bad guys away from your family as you have already proven that . If you feel like it not a big deal I was just curious about what general area you live and no offense if u don’t answer . I live in the suburbs of Detroit in Wayne County can be in the City in 10 mins .

[@uga83joe]

Was thinking of purchasing the Mossberg. After seeing this video I wont be. To have such a cheap looking/feeling magazine, at this price point, tends to lead me to think what else did Mossberg cheap out on to make the build. That mag really concerns me...

[@robertsilver5130]

Understandable, as they do look like cheap, plastic toys. But they're not. They're surprisingly durable, low friction, and functional. I've loaded both mags over a hundred times each, dropped them, etc. They look brand new -- no scratches -- and remain perfectly functional. I'm not an armorer, but the gun definitely does not feel cheap: steel sights (video is mistaken), steel guide rod, good ergos, and a very good trigger imo. Maybe give it a try at a range if you haven't already. I got mine for $330 out the door, and it has performed very well.

[@cjsteele9594]

Your loss, its a great weapon.

[@the-gn2zn]

You will NEVER get the 8th round into the Shield (not without tools or breaking your finger). Their magazines are the worst I've ever experienced.

[@6Sally5]

the777 There must be something wrong with your mag. My wife and I both have a Shield and both 8-rounders load fine.

[@chrisbrownaz]

I think those triggers are way too light for self defense.

[@Rumpleskin]

Not accurate pulls.I own the shield.it HAD a heavy pull.changed that

[@AndrewSmith-gr8jl]

Mossberg pull is between 5 and 6 lbs mine is 5.2

[@erickaltenbrunner7815]

Mc1sc sights are steel.

[@lancecochrane9302]

Made 3 mistakes here in your description of the shield workings and parts materials.

[@tedjr.sullivan1882]

Fuck both these I bought the Walthers PPS 2.

[@mpett2]

Good choice as well

[@edstringer1138]

Lol a safety version ...who gets a safety on a striker fired carry gun or a carry gun period. The original shield was a turd without trigger work. Bad pistols for comparison .

[@almostontimehero5415]

Safeties are great if you chamber the +1 round or if you pocket carry along something else or if you leave gun in holster and just store the holster away.

[@edstringer1138]

@@almostontimehero5415 Plus one round is called loaded . This gun will be difficult to pocket carry period , it would be sheer ignorance to put something else in that pocket . A proper holster covers the trigger where nothing can touch it , so this gun is dafe to have loaded (see above point on loaded guns ... I restate "Who gets a safety on a striker fired carry gun ?"

[@almostontimehero5415]

@@edstringer1138 people that under stand a negligent discharge is more than just an "oopsie". Your theory works wonders, except all the Glock folks that have shot themselves.