Ruger Precision Rifle vs Savage Ashbury Precision

[@JetBlackGT]

The RPR stock does indeed lock to the side. It's the button you pressed to fold it, turn it 90 degrees once folded and it stays locked.

[@service409]

Thanks for the review, I had a decision made now I'm back on the fence again!

[@stevelauterwasser1475]

the Ruger stock DOES lock in the folded position, you twist the lock button 45°

[@martinwilliams4079]

I have the RPR in 6.5 creedmoor. I absolutely love it. Approximately 700 rounds through it at this time with no deviation in velosities or precision. Will replace the barrel down the road but no need at the moment. Vortex Viper pst 6-24X50, atlas bipod, and accu shot monopod. This rifle is so accurate I've had new shooters at the range banging steel beyond their wildest expectations. It is so accurate I'd say it gets boring but hey, I love thevsound of ringing steel. It truely gives meaning to, " Just because it's too far to see, doesn't mean it's out of range." Really opened the sport of precision shooting for everyone.

[@steveduvall5981]

I know the feeling, have your same rifle and scope and want to get the 338 LM :) Even with suppressor it is sweet and my reloads.........it is a non-stop great deal.

[@Kman31ca]

To me it seems Savage deleted options that most serious long range shooters would replace any way. An after market 20 moa base, the butt stock, and the muzzle brake. Those are the first things I would change if I bought the RPR. Although the butt stock seems pretty good to me. I've heard a lot of ppl don't really like them due to the flex you get with the unsupported u shape in the stock. I'd definetly be putting on a high end precision rail. And a nice muzzle break. The factory blue printing is a real plus, especially with the floating bolt head. That will give you near perfect alignment of cartridge to the bore. This is typical Savage style. Put the money into accuracy first, ergonomics and looks last. I guess it all comes down to what the buyer wants. Don't get me wrong. Both these are amazing rifles, and the RPR is a better looking rifle with more options. But I've just had such good experience with Savage for accuracy from my old 10Tr, still in the accustock. With good hand loads it still shoots great. But if I wanted a serious out of the box shooter. I don't think you can beat the Tikka Tac 1. Friend has one and it is such a beautifully built rifle, and eye popping accuracy. It's worth the extra 500$ in my mind... Even though all these rifles could out shoot most shooters. Me included. The biggest thing is the firearms market putting all these great rifles like this for everyone out there, is a win win, for all. That Howa and Bergara look great too. It's a great time to be alive in the shooting community. 20 years ago you where spending fortunes to get custom rigs like this built by a gunsmith, and up to a years wait. Cheers all. Now just go shoot! lol

[@MrHarrilasagna]

Thanks for the great breakdown Chris.

[@Conan568]

Both great rifles I bet. I have the RPR in .308, and it is a literal tack driver.. You can't go wrong with either rifle

[@uurkisme]

love my RPR. also in 308

[@ba269]

If you dont want a riser I found that the buress extreme tactical rings for a 50mm scope front clears perfectly for the ruger precision

[@GrumpyShihTzu]

Ruger seems like the better deal. It comes with two mags, it can use a wide range of mags, and the stock is ready to go out of the box. Plus I find it better looking.

[@MarksmanTV]

All very good points - thanks for watching!

[@Saltfactorynz]

Dont get either, save your pennies and get a Tikka tac a1.

[@Kokopellli]

@@Saltfactorynz right, and go to finland for spare parts 😂

[@hardybirch3630]

Another excellent and informative video. I look forward to watching each of your presentations and always learn something new...…….and they are always entertaining. Thanks.

[@dentaldoc1460]

Thanks for the great comparison.

[@MarksmanTV]

Thanks for watching!

[@stephensmith4480]

They both look like two very nice rifles, think I would go for the Ruger.

[@zombielivesmatter7294]

How can you say the Ruger is limited in handguards when it uses a AR15 barrel nut and can accept any of the MANY AR15 handguards on the market

[@FreshButSalty]

I do believe the Ruger stock does lock in place there's a lever on the end of the buffer tube once folded pull it down. Nice videos keep up the good work !

[@rainmechanic]

Ruger has a cold hammer forged barrel and any fore end that fits on an AR will also fit on the Ruger since it utilizes an AR barrel nut retention system.

[@Madbass64]

Just shot my RPR for the first time. I am very impressed. I mounted a Vortex Diamondback first focal plane to it. After zeroing the scope. This thing would not miss, granted I could only shoot out to 200 yards. Shooting an 8in gong at 200 yards got boring. Hitting the center of a clay pidgin 200 yards, child’s play. Looking to find a place where we can shoot past 500 yards, which I have no doubt it is capable of doing. My cost for my set up was about $1500.00 for everything. Oh yea, the butt stock dose lock.

[@milehighbeerguy4586]

Great video! Very informative!

[@mikel9741]

RPR .308. Sub .5 MOA at 100 yds with several rounds virtually in one hole. One of my fave-rite rifles. But don't take my word for it.

[@W1ckedRcL]

You're wrong about the RPR gen2 handguard setup. The Ruger is capable of using any AR15 handguard, which pretty much makes your handguard options almost limitless.

[@bobdunchad4464]

Ruger looks to be the winner: hammer forged barrel, 20MOA rail, shorter bolt throw, ready to shoot adjustable stock out of the box, upper is pre-hardened 4140 CrMo steel, the barrel is in line with stock. I'd rather have the 6.5 CM in a 20" barrel, there's almost no additional velocity with 4" more steel.

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

Wow! So Ruger uses 4140 chrome moly hardened steel, for its reciever, 7075 hardened aluminum, for its lower reciever, has AR grips, AR Handgaurds, and buttstocks, takes every mag I can imagine using, has a chrome moly steel hammer forged 5 button rifled barrel, has a disassembly tool and allen wrench in the end of the 3 lug bolt, (instead of the 2 lug ) a removable and replaceable bolt handle, and a much more adjustable buttstock, and a 20 MOA rail. I am glad I watched this as it clearly shows Ruger put in better Much better materials and spent time in designing this gun. They both are 24" 6.5 Creedmore that I amlooking for. I really want a easily replaceable barrel on my 1st precision rifle as I plan on wearing it out. Knowing that, these were the 2 best candidates. I like the Mossberg and the Smith/TC offerings but they lack, in that dept, I believe. I am not really familiar with how Thompson action and Barrels interface. I now see why the Ruger is a few dollars more, its in the quality of materials and design.

[@ajmcneal7654]

You should compare the ruger to the Howa HCR a lot of people are talking about the howa

[@edallen5711]

I have the Howa. (M1500 .308 and HCR 6.5). Both are very nice shooters. Will be taking the HCR out this coming Friday to break in at 700 yards. If it does like my .308, should be no problem. Was hitting 1000 yd with it until the range closed down.

[@TRLgoodvibesdotcom]

I live really near you! I was surprised you said Westfield 😁😂😁 Thanks for the video I am considering the Savage.

[@wavular]

The price here in Canada is about $2300.00 for the Ruger ,i should know after all i am buying one this week.

[@11B_GRUNT]

I have the RPR in a 6.5 Creedmoor and I've had it for 2 years. Best rifle I have, i have my own load development rounds and so far the farthest Ive shot out was 1354 yards and it's dead on. Im going out for 1 mile, 1760 yards and I have no doubt that I won't be able to hit 18x21 AR500 Steel. My RPR 6.5 Creedmoor also has Vortex Viper PST Gen 3 5x25 scope, atlas bipod, vortex bubble leveler

[@stealthandy638]

morning Chris. hard one this week mi friend .some lucky person would be happy too have any one of em. sorry too say wish I had the money any of em would be great ta fire. thanks for ya time an sharing . ATB you an yours

[@MarksmanTV]

Thanks for watching, Andy - really appreciate it!

[@505FlingerofFlies]

Why can't I comment on the mobile app? KZbin is going down the tubes fast! Anyway, I'm interested in the RPR. How often do you get them in stock?

[@alanflanagan4983]

I lived in Carmel...wish I would've knew about you guys.

[@nrvous309]

Hey Chris, if you had to pick 1, witch would you have and why?

[@ymubarik]

Hi: very informative video. I’m interested in Ruger precision rifle Model 18029. My question, Does This model shoot only 6.5 Creedmoor amo or can shoot various caliber amo?

[@edallen5711]

Comparing all 3 in 6.5 Creedmore. Looks like retail is about 1408 for the Savage, Ruger is 1142 and Howa Chasis Rifle is 1027. Ruger and Howa both have a cheek riser already. So you don't have to go buy one. Infact, they both have decent stocks. So, add 100 - 200 more to the Savage. Sounds like Howa and Ruger paid more attention to the shooters needs. All 3 can use the AICS magazines. All 3 can use AR stocks. But why should you have to purchase one for a rifle that is already closing in on 1500?

[@lkazanov]

Sorry, missed your comment...is the Savage also CHF?? I thought it was button rifled...

[@SlowerIsFaster139]

I've shot the ruger precision and I loved it. The muzzle blast is kind of bad if you are spotting though haha

[@lkazanov]

I assume the bolt is not free floating on the Ruger?? Didn't look like it was.

[@mathieubaker1548]

Savage saber has a tighter bolt. Which i like. But i own a RPR. Will be getting a saber in the 6.5!

[@Vince-uh6gm]

Hi Chris, I purchased a Savage 10 APO. I have seen photos of the rifle with a Magpul PRS stock. How were they able to mount the PRS without the female end that would have to attach to the tube itself? When I called APO they told me you can not mount a PRS to this rifle. They recommended a Luth AR MBA.

[@Swoldier17]

Vince same happened to me .. which stock did you put on there ? I might just get the tallest cheek riser from magpul

[@OEF_OIFVET68]

how about a shooting comparison?

[@jordanosborn1814]

You make it sound like there's limited options for the tigers handguard? But the options are almost limitless if it fits an at it's fits the ruger

[@edallen5711]

I'm assuming you meant the Rugers handguard. But same for the pistol grip. If you want the 17 degree angle, you can get the pistol grip from Bravo Company. Same one used on the Springfield Armory Saint.

[@jordanosborn1814]

Ed Allen yes phone changed ruger to tiger

[@seanfischer3853]

Awesome info thanks!!

[@Serenityindailylife]

The Ruger is much more versatile in the handguard area department, the Ashbury has 6 different ones that you must buy from them and the Ruger has tons which are available from a ton of manufacturers. I own both but I tried getting the CF one from Ashbury and have yet to get a chance to get one because they are hard to find. I also have the stealth and prefer it over the ashbury. A note on the ashbury: You cant put a PRS stock on it because you would need gorilla arms to shoot it. I have tried, I wasted $200 on it plus the buffer tube. You can put other stocks on it but the PRS doesnt work.

[@Serenityindailylife]

AN TY my stealth shoots better and has better support (mdt) and the Ashbury has the weird front end area that allows you to swap things but the stealth feels more natural in my hands and is easier for me to shoot prone. both are good but the stealth is better for me. I have used APO stuff in Afghanistan when they were in the UK. we used a roll up tripod and mount that were awesome. this just seems like they sold a bunch of production stocks to savage and they slapped them together. my front end was even loose when I bought it. so I doubt qc did anything extra to find the problems with the new system. hope this helps.

[@rickrick7577]

I've owned both . Sold the Ruger ... Does that tell you anything ... So the Ruger just didn't feel as solid to me .. Both good guns for the price ..

[@rprzen2099]

The Ruger is the better deal. And the stock does indeed lock in the folded position. You just rotate the release button down and it locks. I've got the exact Ruger in this video. It is a 1 hole machine @200 yards. It is all around better built for long range shooting. The savage is nice don't get me wrong. But I sure am glad I went with the Ruger.

[@gfdfperte4248]

what rifle is a better shooter?

[@shamrockrancher7673]

Great comparison video, so many trade off's each way. Imagine if they mated? =8-O

[@rich1958]

Which has better barrel in terms of longevity? Is savage barrel chrome lined, hammer forged? Or just the Ruger?

[@packbadge]

How's this Savage different than the Stealth?

[@10lbhammer51]

I won't pay more for a muzzle brake on anything less than a .300 Winchester Magnum. Not needed since a 6.5 Creedmore doesn't kick to begin with.

[@floydzepplin1218]

Meh, I put a muzzle break on my 6.5 creedmoore and it helps

[@jordanhadlich5196]

the ruger precision rifle has a locking feature on the side folding stock. you have to rotate the locking lever down to lock it in place.

[@josievelarde5467]

I had a gunsmith tell me if he was going to get one he would get the RPR because they get sent back less 4 problems!

[@gfdfperte4248]

How would he ( the smith) know that lame

[@daverodkey]

@@gfdfperte4248 Cause HE would more than likely be the one that would attempt to fix a problem before sending it back to the manufacturer...

[@milstaf7394]

So what calibers?

[@jakegamingking5355]

Short answer?

[@mikehoncho7534]

How does a Ruger Percision do commercially Does there seem to be a lot of consumer interest

[@jmorrison1444]

any ar hand guard will fit on the ruger putz

[@sorryociffer]

I prefer the bolt and mag release of the Savage... I prefer the stock of the RPR.....

[@joewanecki2402]

Can anyone advise the height of scope mount for the rpr gen 2? I have bought a nf nxs 8-32x56 just need to figure out a mount. Want a 1 piece mount. Thank you!

[@chadt5197]

if you are running a Gen2 rail that smoothe on top, should be good with the 1.45" height. I have a full picatinny rail and want to run scope caps, so im running rings 1.57" height

[@bmstylee]

Love the concept but the folding does not appeal to me.

[@MotivatedMetalworks]

There's just no point for it. Are you needing to tuck this up under your trench coat?? Folded makes the gun twice as wide and only 10" shorter.

[@flea-kh7om]

The Ruger butt stock does "lock" when folded Sir. Read the manual. It has a pin you rotate to lock in place.

[@Lucky13Twice]

Can you explain about the rail system 20 MOA. What do you mean about the 20 MOA of adjustment?

[@tc6818]

MOA means minute of angle (1/60th of a degree). It is roughly equal to 1" at 100 yards. (technically it's 1.047", but most people use 1" for their calculations and adjustments.) The minute of angle (MOA) is like a triangle that keeps getting taller the farther the target is from the rifle. Depending on the distance, 1 MOA is: 1" at 100 yards, 2" at 200 yards, 3" at 300 yards, 4" at 400 yards, etc. These rifles are accurately shooting at distances of over 1000 yards. Assume you're going to zero your rifle for 100 yards. If you are shooting a distance greater than 100 yards, you need to make adjustments on your scope in order to hit the bullseye. There is a finite number of 'clicks' available on any rifle scope -- eventually you can't adjust it any more. The farther the target, the more time the bullet spends in the air and the more it is dropping. In order to hit a target 500 yards out, you will have to aim much higher than you would at 100 yards. The drop is not linear, because of the acceleration due to gravity, it keeps falling faster, the longer it is in the air. A 6.5 Creedmoor bullet that drops 2" at 100 yards might drop 8" at 300 yards and 48" at 500 yards. If your rifle/scope is zeroed in for 100 yards and you're shooting a target 500 yards away, you'd need to aim an extra 46" above the bullseye just to account for gravity. (48" of drop minus the 2" for 100 yards that's already dialed into the scope) At 500 yards, 1 MOA is 5", so you'll need to adjust your scope by 9 MOA just to compensate for 45" of bullet drop. (9 MOA x 5" per MOA = 45") Then you'd want to adjust another 1/4 of an MOA to get as close to the required 46" as you can. (1/4" x 5" per MOA = 1.25") That would put you at 46.25". The Ruger has a picatinny rail that is taller than the Savage. The extra 20 MOA of height allows you to zero your rifle/scope using the lower end of the optic's elevation adjustment. This allows you to use that extra 20 MOA of elevation adjustment when you're shooting at longer distances. The general rule of thumb is that a bullet's effective range is how far it will remain supersonic. When most bullets slow to below the speed of sound, they lose a lot of accuracy. (Transonic is the term for a bullet changing from supersonic to subsonic) While it can vary depending on the cartridge and ambient conditions, the 6.5 Creedmoor is supersonic to about 1400 yards. Therefore it is reasonable to expect a long distance shooter to be aiming at targets in excess of 1000 yards. Here is an explanation from warnescopemounts.com/20moa-explained/ When a shooter is adjusting the elevation dial on the scope for ranges longer than what the gun is zeroed for, at some point, they will run out of elevation in the scope. In many instances this is around 600 yards, give or take. For example, if a shooter had a scope with 40MOA of total elevation travel, and the rifle was zeroed at 100 yards in the center of that travel, they would have 20MOA worth of adjustment both up and down. When the rifle is zeroed in the center of the scope travel, there is 20MOA worth of down adjustment that will never be used. In its most basic form, a 20MOA base allows you to use that extra 20MOA of travel in the scope that was not being used. So in this case, if the shooter had a 20MOA base, the rifle would be zeroed at the end of its elevation travel, and the shooter would have 40MOA of elevation at their disposal, allowing them to shoot longer distances.

[@wrext3561]

The 6.5 Creed in the rpr has a 26" barrel actually.

[@justincase8239]

Pretty sure you're thinking of the 6mm Creedmoor.

[@illuminatedcrosshairs7865]

Let’s end this ( vrs) argument right now, both of these rifles are absolutely awesome and anyone that owns either one of them should be a proud and ( accurate) responsible marksman!😳 ( Savage all the way!!) because the definition of accuracy is.... SAVAGE of course..

[@ConditionZero76]

Chris I watched the entire video to find out which rifle you preferred over the other & you left us all empty handed?? 😕

[@SVTsupercharged]

The Ruger just looks better made. From the upper and lower to the stock, even the grip.

[@jmorrison1444]

any ar hand guard will fit on the ruger you putz

[@burtpearson7198]

Very nicely done. I will get the ruger in 308

[@coyotetacticalsolutions]

Why the hell Savage went for that horrendous buttstock choice is beyond me. It is literally USELESS once you put on optic on the rifle.

[@GIboy1990]

they expect you to be serious shooter who plans on replacing whatever came with the rifle anyway. So a way the could save money on cost is to throw a basic stock and no muzzle brake.

[@Scottypowpow]

Nice

[@galacticmarinemarmar3825]

ruger gives u more for the price look at its stock alone

[@MotivatedMetalworks]

Except it flexes laterally. No thanks...

[@SVTsupercharged]

@@MotivatedMetalworks Flexes? My ass.

[@tommysuria5467]

Why don't they just sell the stupid rifles with out the crappy stocks and save us the BS?

[@frogmanjack8790]

I don't like the way savage did the hand grip doesn't line up ruger has a better grip

[@wavular]

And they got rid of the keymod for M-lok thank you very much! Keymod is dead lol

[@nicholaswestendorf1983]

the new Gen 2 and 3 have the M-lok

[@davearff833]

Sorry to have to correct sometimes you said. You are not the first to get this wrong. The Ruger precision rifles folding stock Does Lock to the side. But not Intel you rotate the unlocking 90° And only then will it stay locked to the side position. Again sorry to correct you I normally don't say anything but I know one.

[@johnmonka6818]

The Ruger does lock folded, read the manual!