Ruger Precision Rifle vs Savage Stealth 10 BA

[@scottgalaxy5513]

After owning the RPR Gen I and the Savage (both in .308) now for over two years, I have come to a final conclusion... they are both equally accurate on paper Sub MOA out to 200 yards, and very respectable out to 800 plus yards on a 20" x 20" gong. They are both extremely fun, accurate and inspiring. The Ruger for me, is a little bit heavier, but the ergonomic design is spot on and surpasses the Savage. That being said, neither of the rifles have their oem stocks. Both now have the PRS I stocks by Magpul. For me, the Ruger offers a better, lower mounting option, even with a set of medium height mounting rings, the savage feels to be a little bit higher, and not as easy to get a clear fast sight picture. I've tried everything, and measured and they measure exactly the same, so it is the chassis on the Ruger that makes the diffetence. I Love them both, but the Savage is going on the market, and I am saving up for the new RPR in .300 Win Mag. Just my thoughts. Trigger=Tie Accuracy=Tie Weight=Savage feels ligher, but is close Ergonomics = Ruger RPR better straight line sight picture, better grip to trigger feel.put on the Hogue grip and the trigger feel is a tie. Bolt strength=Ruger is a much stronger bolt, but it is not a deal breaker as it is not required, and... truth be told, at the pressures tested with the .308 , the Savage offers more bolt locking surface then the three surface contact points in the Ruger, so, this (on paper) sounds better, but there is really no performance advantage over the Savage... just personal preference. They are both excellent choices for 90% of us out there that are dipping into Long Range Shooting, and far exceed MOST of our abilities. The money you will save with either one, will buy a lot of brass, powder, and bullets. Practice, repitition, and learning good techniques = good habits, and muscle memory. Have fun shooting.

[@noep99]

Scott Galaxy Can one of those two rifle be use for deer hunting? Your answer will be greatly appreciated, Thanks

[@danboofin5094]

@@noep99 any rifle can be used for deer hunting many people even do it with pistols. It's more about what caliber you use fir example .223 or 5.56 is probably the very smallest rifle caliber and many states prohibit .223 to hunt deer because you are more likely to maim than kill. Just find a nice affordable common round to practice with like .30-06 or 308 . Hope that helps

[@gamingmadesimple5510]

@@noep99 I have been using 5.56 to hunt deer for years. Caliber, bullet selection, shot placement are all key to killing a deer ethically. Shot placement is by far the most important of those three. I use an 18" barrel chrome lined with 5.56 chamber shooting standard 5.56 powder load with a 62gr barnes tsx monolithic pill. I check in at 3100 fps and shooting an average of 0.8 moa on cold bore. Most of my white tail are taken at 50-150 yards. Whatever caliber you choose to hunt with make it affordable and shoot tons to develope your muscle memory and get your accuracy dialed in.

[@stevenhorsefield2909]

@@noep99 little heavy for hunting if your hiking a lot.

[@twyztedsteel81]

Great assessment. Thanks for the ease of reading for us novices.

[@BartBade]

One of the finest comparison videos I've seen, complete with a knowledgeable and well articulated presentation.

[@trentcrouse8798]

Bought my son the ruger for Christmas and on his first day shooting was hitting an 18 plate at 1200 yards - the gun shoots great

[@jolujo5842]

Which gun? LOL

[@RobinP556]

I chose the Ruger and have no complaints. However my choice was affected by circumstances, me being a paraplegic it's a great deal easier for me to move the rifle around than the Savage would be. I've not shot this model Savage but the Savage models that I have shot are highly underrated, excellent rifles at a great price.

[@patdennis3751]

I have an old M110 in 308Win that cost $350 new and with my handloads, will shoot with others costing several thousand dollars. Hard to go wrong with a Savage rifle.

[@wilfdarr]

Hi Robin, Sorry if this is prying just tell me to f-off. I'm an able bodied person who enjoys sharing my sports with everyone, and am keen to learn what I can to make other people's lives easier. My question is what makes the Ruger easier for you than the Savage? If I were to guess I would have guessed opposite with that folding stock, but obviously I would have been wrong. Otherwise, to me, they look the same. Thanks.

[@searcher9]

So....you are in a wheelchair, I presume, and still kickin' ass like a warrior. Good on ya!, sterling example of American spirit.

[@EyeRonin]

Performance wise, neither has an advantage. They're both great. The main thing I like about the Ruger is it receives AR-10 p-mags. But that's just a personal preference.

[@fiveoaksfarmofgeorgia7605]

The Ruger is a Ferarri 458 Italia and the Savage is a Corvette Z06.

[@gamingmadesimple5510]

@@fiveoaksfarmofgeorgia7605 I'm thinking more of a 430 vs corvette.... performance is closer to each other, and the 430 is much sexier than 458.

[@Ratkill9000]

ACIS mags tend to be better than AR10 mags.

[@KG-wn7fm]

I like the unbiased review and how you explain some terminology.

[@primogranite]

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[@janglenutter3820]

I wouldn't say unbiased with an entire wall of Ruger American rifles behind him...

[@shramj]

Excellent Review!

[@ckempm109r]

I bought the Savage stealth, now waiting for my scope Vortex Viper PST gen II 5-25x50 ffp

[@johnpapadopoulos7639]

Lol I ordered the same setup!

[@johnpapadopoulos7639]

Case Dismissed Guaranteed I got my Viper 5-25x Gen II for $699. How much is the Crusader?

[@guythattrolls]

At that price point give me the B25 US Optics

[@guythattrolls]

When people think they are getting American or European glass, they are typically surprised when they fined out who actually made the optics for said glass. Thanks for the info, I will look into that. Keep in mind though, one video review is just one opinion.

[@guythattrolls]

I watched that video that you suggested. Extremely bad view other then just going over the features of it. I was hoping to see a handful of shooting drills at 100 yards and beyond to demonstrate the precision and repeatability of it. Will need to look farther into it and find some real reviews on it.

[@snteevveetns]

Good review. I might point out the savage has a 3 position safety. Red/dead, and full safety. There is a 1/2 point to which the rifle will not fire but the bolt CAN be opened. 👍

[@51Dss]

several years back I opted for the Savage Stealth BA10 6.5 CM. I chose it over the RPR mostly because of geometry and weight. The ruger seemed unwieldy to me - strictly for bench rest shooting while the Savage is lighter and more maneuverable - you could easily shoulder the Savage if you needed. My only complaint about my BA Stealth is the factory butt stock which works fine for shouldering the rifle like an AR15 but it is not conducive to solid bench rest - which is what I do most often. Overall I am very satisfied with the BA Stealth. BTW I did fire a friends RPR before making my final decision on which rifle to buy.

[@fussellmuscle6301]

I see a lot of good group claims for the Ruger. That's great. I personally have a Savage 308 & 7mm Mag. My best group with the 308 at 400y was 6 shots measuring 1.43". My worst was 2.5". The 7mag has only been to the local range, but at 200y my worst was .75" and the best was .25". I'll stick with the Savage line, but can say I'm very impressed with the Ruger.

[@UserNotFound-mw4hp]

My Savage is in 6.5. Best precision weapon ive touched, love it.

[@СергійДовженко-м6к]

Thanks for the review. Some time ago I had a chance to shoot from Savage, and Ruger was unjustifiably ignored - in my country, Savage and Remington are held in high esteem by rifle sellers, Ruger is found in only one store in the country! But recently, just a couple of weeks ago, I happened to pick up a “real American” at 6.5 Creedmoore and it was love from the first shot. This was the third version of the RPR. The rifle is rather heavy in comparison with my Remington 783, but it is unusually pleasant in non-standard positions, due to the AR-15 platform - it felt like I was holding the AR-10. I don’t know who doesn’t like 6.5, but I made several shots from branches without a prepared position on the tango at a distance of more than 600 yards and seriously scared them, although I didn’t get it, unfortunately. I did not feel any discomfort, probably because I reacted like an AR-15 with a long barrel - low recoil, easy to hold. Good luck to everyone!

[@southcitypyro]

Just received my RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor 2 weeks ago, already have around 120 rounds through it and it's shooting 1/2-2/3 MOA with match Ammo. Definitely the best purchase I've made this year.

[@hotfarts6731]

Yep. The key here is match ammo with good trigger discipline and a stable platform. Sounds like you know what you're doing. Great job!

[@m1a1abrams93]

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[@thechad2446]

Better slow down on shooting it. Though very accurate the 6.5 is a barrel burner.

[@tacratt6091]

I bought the Stealth, and it saved a couple hundred more to put towards the optic, Burris xtr II 5x25x50 scr mil, I'm putting a badger ordinance 20 moa rail on it though, probably doesn't need it but what the heck! Can't go wrong with either rifle!

[@rfcooch]

Awesome and completely unbiased review, so kudos on that! I have the RPR gen 1 .308 with the viper PST 6-24x50. The gun is an absolute tack driver (sub MOA) and shoots every bit as nice as my buddies who all shoot Rem 700 with accuracy international stocks. I couldn't love my RPR more. As for price I have a friend who is an FFL and authorized Ruger distributor who was willing to give it to me for just about his cost at $965 but, he informed me right from the start that he had no clue if or when he would get it as it was being allocated from Ruger (this is obviously early on but I wanted to be the first kid on the block) After about 8 months I found one LOCAL that was brand new in the box being but previously purchased so being sold as second hand on armslist and I was willing to pay the extra to get it ($1300 no tax, shipping phone call or transfer). I had purchased a titanium bolt tail to replace the garbage plastic piece Ruger had attached to the bolt. I have had my hands on the stealth and to be honest with you I am not a fan. I do not like the open top handguard and I do not like the looks or feel of it but, bare in mind I am going on feel only as I have not shot it. as for the weight difference if you can feel .06oz difference on a gun that you would NOT be shooting free hand you are a better man than I. By the time you install scope, mount, bipod,etc the difference is negligible. I also like that you can replace the RPR handguard with ANY AR free float(huge bonus). MY actual ONLY complaint on the RPR is I do not like the blade safety in the trigger shoe BUT Timney has already released a replacement for $200(I have disabled the blade on mine and won't replace it because I otherwise love the trigger feel)

[@SuperBman1221]

Agreed my 6.5 with 140 ELD with h-350 almost same hole at 100yds

[@BradHedges]

Just a note on the weight - the difference is 0.6 Lbs, not .06 Oz... about 10 ounces, over half a pound. Not got a dog in this fight, just wanted the facts to be straight. :-)

[@hope121107]

In 5R® rifling, the barrel has 5 grooves and the sides of these grooves are not straight, (i.e. not parallel to each other), instead they are angled or ramped as shown in the drawing above Button-rifled barrels are also made by drilling, grinding and polishing. The rifling pattern is then pressed into the barrel with a tool called a button. Afterwards the barrel is polished with a lead rod and grinding paste. This method is frequently used by smaller manufacturers, as it does not require such expensive tooling.

[@MWard-hl6gg]

I have a 110 BA. 338. I was surprised by the play in the bolt. A beast none the less. Great companion vid!

[@lars277]

I bought 4 Savage rifles out of Wal-Marts in the 80s and 90s. 3 were rifle/scope packages, all bolt guns. They all shoot very excellent. 25.05, two .223s, and a .243. Last year I bought a Model 10T Savage from a Bass Pro shop in 6mm Creed. This rifle is offered at a reasonable price exclusive at Bass Pro and Cabela's. I bought a Vortex FFP scope 6x24x50 scope for it. I think it is the Diamondback. It is a medium price FFP scope very good for competition shooting. It took me about 100 rounds to get the rifle to group under 2 inches at 100 yards. It still only shoots 1 moa at 100 yards. That is after I took it all apart, checked the torque on all the fasteners, scope, everything. I even took it to a gunsmith to have him look at it. He could not find anything wrong with it. My package guns are all .5-.75 moa rifles all day with any ammo. That is what I like about Savage rifles was their predictable accuracy. Right out of the box, those old walmart rifles I could take directly out to the prairie dog towns after very little fiddling around with them. This 6mm model 10T is not one of those rifles. I have concluded I will never get it to shoot right and will sell it, never to buy another Savage rifle as long as I draw air. A friend at the range let me shoot his 6mm Creed American Ruger rifle. It is a $400 rifle with a 22-inch barrel. That thing shoots great. I easily shot .5 inch with my ammo. My groups from all of my Savage rifles except the new one will shoot what I call clover leaf groups with 5 rounds. I am done with Savage. I will either get a Bergara or Tikka next.

[@thatkyleguy1289]

Man I appreciate the video, no bullshit music or gimmicks, just facts. I was damn near to buying a ruger, now I'm leaning towards a savage. Thanks for the info!!

[@typhoon-7]

New drinking game: Take a shot every time he says "go ahead".

[@garys5540]

Thanks for the excellent thorough review

[@mukhtaarali8566]

Hey what can I say! I like all your comments, very helpful and educating. Thanks for the help. I think I get them both.

[@Nobo35]

Ruger has far superior customer service than Savage. Had two issues with two different Rugers over the last couple years. Called them and they sent out the parts no questions asked and no charge, shipping paid. Had a bolt issue with a savage. Called them and they said tough luck. That savage rifle has been sitting in the gun rack since. That rifle was my son's first personal rifle. Was so excited to get it and that ended up being his first rifle experience. I took it as a loss and will never even consider another savage firearm again. Buying from companies like Ruger and Vortex is just a no brainer. Never have to worry about getting screwed over.

[@magnumcipher4971]

I own one of each in 6.5 CM. Both have Magpul PRS stocks and Steiner 5-25x56 optics with steel Leupold Mark 4 34mm rings. The Ruger shoots 3/8 MOA all day long. The Savage, even without the effects of muzzle break pull-off, shoots 1/2 to 3/4 minutes. Both are fantastic rifles, I wouldn't talk a guy out of either one. It's a matter of comfort, price, and availability.

[@ronhartle3268]

Luke Moon nice to here some actual shooting data comparison.

[@magnumcipher4971]

Sorry. To clarify, "all day long" just an expression meaning rock solid reliable and repeatable results. I do hand load, 143 grain ELD-x, H4350, meticulously prepared, once fired Hornady brass, CCI primers, and extensive, painstaking load development data and ladder testing for each rifle. The Ruger is my preferred weapon of choice and the 2nd Gen. rifles have an aluminum bolt shroud. The straight-line design and AR-ish ergonomic layout of the Ruger also make edge it ahead of the Savage, in my opinion and in the case of my experience with the two units I own. I could not care less about the weight of a rifle for this application. It's not a battle rifle and has no need for weighing 6 pounds. My Ruger is somewhere in the neighborhood of 17 pounds with the giant Steiner, PRS, steel Mark 4 rings and 14 ounces of mercury in the buffer tube. It's also a rock solid platform to lay behind without the worry of loosing sight picture due to recoil....because there is nearly none.

[@alant3895]

Any factory rifle can have some very accurate samples, and some not so accurate samples.

[@YellowCab524]

I’m having such a hard decision on which one to get. I have the Savage 10FCP in 6.5 Creedmoor now.

[@bobanppvc]

ruger will shoot 3/8MOA but in your dreams

[@tomrickman6131]

They’re both nice , I’m learning towards the Savage though. I have a model 10 .308 and if it shoots anything like mine it’s golden.

[@bobh.5423]

Turner's has the 10BA (pressure washer)in 6.5 for $899. I'll take it!

[@Brian97735]

www.cdnnsports.com/rugerr-precision-rifle-308-hybrid-mb.html#.XMwkio5KhPY $899 right now, they did have them for $799 around Christmas .308 and 6mm creedmoor

[@hussainsvt9853]

I definitely like the RPR in 6.5 CM. And I had the 1st gen. Loved it. I miss it so much.

[@fredhill3565]

Fox Ray I have the RPR Gen II In 6.5 Creedmoor. I love it. Granted it’s not lite.

[@SpeKterDesigns]

Savage also have a 5R barrel and the lands are actually not square but have a slight angle up to a rise allowing the bullet to hit the amount of twist imparted by the barrel but deforms the bullets less than flat lands.

[@Dlust88]

after owing and shooting both. dont waste your money on the rpr. both shoot accurate. but the savage is way smoother action.

[@halfdollar86]

I wish they would offer the savage in the MDT LSS XL (same chassis but longer fore-end) with a Luth AR or Magpul PRS

[@stealthandy638]

O M G . both are great rifles . thanks for your review . ATB

[@21psd]

A great and very detailed review. Thank you!

[@memilanuk]

The barrel nut is most definitely *not* 'any standard AR-15' part (@ 4:55). Yes, an AR uses a barrel nut, and yes, the Savage uses a barrel nut; they do not use the same tools; not even close.

[@jasonbona7456]

Great video. I am trying to decide between those two exact rifles for my next purchase. It was very interesting because at first I was leaning towards the Ruger now after this video I believe I like the Savage better.

[@arthurtaylor6462]

Thanks for the review. Went with the RPR since I already have a light Remington 700. Shooting it tomorrow for the first time

[@MarksmanTV]

Thanks for watching! I hope you enjoy your first shots on the RPR!

[@Megames2012]

It looks like the Savage wins in all aspects, except the magazine. M-Lock, instead of keymod. Swivel stud comes standard. Empty channel in front of the pic rail allows for keeping larger optics low. Fluted barrels keep the barrel heat down. You don't need to fold the stock to remove the bolt. And any mil-spec stock will work with it.

[@jolujo5842]

Thanks for the in-depth view of these rifles. I'm in the process of choosing a bolt rifle. Please review other options.

[@brianmoore1820]

Bottom line, which rifle performed the best. That's what I as a potential buyer wants to know. To see them shot on a range with like ammo and view the targets. Please.

[@Theoreticalenigma]

I love my RPR in .308, gun shoots like a dream, the sound and feel is just perfect for what I wanted. It also looks better imho.

[@justinconn1301]

No store has both of these in stock the 308 and 338 Magnum for me to compare them to figure out which one I like better

[@jcrows6627]

Funny how The Ruger comes in a nice cardboard box and the Savage comes in a standard cardboard box.

[@MarksmanTV]

Yes. The Ruger box is Grade II cardboard whereas the Savage box is only Grade III. Thanks for watching.

[@claytonwhitman1608]

Hmm... cardboard box vs cardboard box.... Me, IDC what kind of cardboard box it is, my gun is going in a hardcase. ;)

[@stevezee5568]

Thank you for pointing this out. I stay awake at night stressing about the cardboard my firearms arrive in 😂

[@BruceBoppoTiemann]

I only buy rifles that come in lapped and cryo-treated cardboard boxes.

[@derekhelms4449]

I'd just like to note, I bought the Savage in 6.5 Creedmoor recently, and went to put a Magpul PRS stock on it, which didn't fit. Turns out the Savage came with a commercial size buffer tube, not Mil-Spec. Luckly the range I go to, guy had a spare Mil tube and simply switched it out for me. I put the GLR16-S on my Sig 516, so saved a few bucks there. On a separate note, I was considering the RPR as well, and had a chance at both. as Bass Pro had both in stock. While the RPR is visually attractive, I saw a few reviews about the stock not maintaining cheek weld height, as well as flexing to the side. Met a guy at Bass Pro as well while looking at the rifles, and he had the RPR in 308, but said he has replaced the barrel, hand guard, and stock. While he may have too much money or should've just bought a custom rifle at that point, he did have the same complaint about the original stock cheek weld but said he loved the gun other than that (though there isn't much of the RPR left it seems). Still made me wonder why he chose to replace that all. Overall my expenditure on my Savage was $999, $250 for the Magpul PRS and $120 for the Precision Armaments M11 muzzle brake in 6.5 Creedmoor. So for ~$1370 I got a rifle that I am happy with (which I've always had good experiences with Savage), a sturdy stock that I want, and a muzzle brake of my choice. I am happy with the finish product of my rifle, and what I chose to spend on it. Which is all that matters in the end. precisionarmament.com/product/m11-muzzle-brake/ www.magpul.com/products/prs-gen3-precision-adjustable-stock

[@conservator01]

...on my previous post...keep in mind, the Savage 110 system is the Rem. 700 killer for far less money. Several agencies have agreed on this.

[@billfletcher5166]

Yea we love Ruger they support Gun Rights. “No honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun,” a Sturm Ruger co-founder, the late William Ruger Sr., told Tom Brokaw in 1992. “

[@carlosv.6108]

He dead now so we good

[@rickwolf6881]

Very thorough unbiased review. THanks

[@leebaldwin6015]

Very comprehensive review,nicely done

[@usalonewolfful]

Debated between THE RPR & the Savage for a year, also between calibers, 308 or 6.5. Thankfully my hair grew back. The Ruger is a more cosmetically pleasing rifle, but both got good reviews on accuracy. I chose the RPR in the end. I like the fact it has easily found mags that are affordable, hybrid muzzle device (which preforms well!) Folding yet very functional stock, & I liked the longer hand guard & the multiple QD Sling locations. I then chose in 308. It's proven, accurate, affordable, easily obtainable In many weights, not to mention, every possible test & experiment with the 308 has been done & well documented. It was an obvious personal choice for me & what I was looking for. I use for deer hunting at various distance & spend much time hunting ground hogs, from 20 yards out past 1000 yards. Just my humble opinion, I think either rifle will please it's purchaser well.

[@3rdeyemedia854]

The nice thing about both of these is if you buy it in 308 you can order a Shilen 6.5 barrel and and switch calibers at will. I prefer the stock on the RPR because I shoot off bags and would like a rear mono-pod.

[@usalonewolfful]

@@3rdeyemedia854 I recently put the accushot rear monopod on mine. I love it! Definitely not as sturdy as sandbags, but pretty darn close.

[@3rdeyemedia854]

@@usalonewolfful I still prefer the flat bottom part of the stock on the Ruger for bags rather than the angled AR15 type butt on the Savage. On my Current rifle I use my left hand to elevate the bottom of the stock up or down and only use my right hand on the rifle for trigger pull.

[@usalonewolfful]

@@3rdeyemedia854 the only problem I have with mine now is getting decent enough weather to get out and use it LOL. I've shot it at 100 and 200 yards, but I want to get out where we ground hog hunt where I have 1000 to 1500 yard straightaways. I have not got the test it out long-range yet with the Nikon M tactical 308 scope I put on it.

[@3rdeyemedia854]

@@usalonewolfful I plan on getting mine in 308 and adding a Shilen 6.5 Barrel. Best of both worlds with one rifle.

[@ItalianAvalanche]

Anodyzing is a process exclusively used on aluminum. It involves using an electrochemical process to create a thin, ultra-hard layer of aluminum oxide on the surface. Coloring can also be added.

[@zwordsman]

Ooh loved the thoroughness.

[@Prime_Operon_Outdoors]

I have the Savage and have used it in PRS style matches. It is very accurate. AICS style magazines DO NOT feed reliably in my gun and have lead to multiple failures in hard use under time pressure. They do not present the round to the bolt as well as the MDT mags which run flawless. AICS mags tend to nose up into the chamber and jam. Lack of a 20 MOA rail is is problem as well and it will likely be need to be changed out. The RPR was built from the ground up as a better GTG gun for the long range shooter, especially competition shooter. The Savage will work and I feel is just as accurate but needs tweaking and understanding of limitations such as being finicky with other magazine load outs. .

[@eriksey81]

When people start arguing over the looks of a rifle, that individuals credibility goes away quickely.

[@MrGsteele]

Yeah, we really don't need art galleries, and ugly women cook better, right?

[@joshuaearle673]

The Savage 10 BA Stealth also uses 5R rifling.

[@KalimbaSpirit]

where is this specs?...I just bought a stealth

[@joshuaearle673]

@@KalimbaSpirit www.savagearms.com/content?p=firearms&a=product_summary&s=22847 Look at the barrel twist information

[@sxleong]

Am I the only one that thinks the skeletal look of the savage is actually pretty nice?

[@user-el5mg4it9t]

I have to say the ruger looks better because of the flat top and the clean look.

[@Akartavor]

Got the RPR in 6mm Creedmor and it’s amazingly accurate at 1250yds and I’m a so-so shooter.

[@fussellmuscle6301]

The button rifling is smart. While they do t compare in power, FX Airgun barrels rifling is done in a similar way. Their latest model is shooting 10 shot groups sub MOA at a 100 yards...... not your average pellet gun

[@R1j0hn]

The MDT LSS based chassis will accept Ruger Scout mags (which are Accurate mags). I use them in mine...

[@mandh14]

Superb breakdown, thank you!

[@OddBall1958]

great video. Now I'd like to see the Ruger Precision vs Savage MSR 10 Long Range in 6.5 Creedmore. Also take them out and shoot them side by side. Thanks

[@npc0168]

have both a well, except my savage is the 110 stealth chambered in .300 WM. both are fantastic rifles. something not mentioned in the video is that the 110 stealth models do in fact come with a 20 minute base. I might add that the break on the savage also saves a girl like me a whole lot of painful recoil that I have previously experienced with my weatherby.

[@msgbean]

I just bought the Savage Ashbury Precision rifle. Still waiting for the scope. Can't wait to shoot it.

[@MarksmanTV]

That's awesome! Let us know how it shoots after you take it out - have fun!

[@msgbean]

No the new Savage rifle: www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10SavAshburyPrecision

[@grouchywithoutcoffee]

wouldn't it be more accurate to compare the RPR to the Savage model 10 Ashbury ?

[@alant3895]

Possibly. The fact that they both include full rails I guess.... You can also include the Tikka T3 TAC A1, Howa HCR, Remington 700 Tactical Chassis (which is also a MDT based chassis just like the Savage Stealth.

[@davidwilliams3244]

I wish they didn't make the TAC a1 take CTR mags. Sure it comes with 3 but fucking 150 bucks for a mag? Common guys. It's the reason I put my Tikka t3 in a KRG Xray. I'm really curious about the new Howa offerings, cheap and seem to have great actions and barrel matings. Might pick up a barreled action from howa for a project one day.

[@The-Tech-Man]

Case Dismissed Guaranteed you seem to hate Ruger and I'm trying to figure out why?

[@MyHouseOnTheMoon]

During the side-by-side comparison (about 9:00), you called the Savage the Ruger. I think this happened twice, though I don't want to go back and check... maybe edit that part?

[@keitha.9788]

The Savage 10BA Stealth in 6.5 Creedmoor has a magazine capacity of "10 rounds". Frankly, I could not get more than 9, usually 8 rounds in the magazine and load it into the rifle. Note that in 2020, MDT (the maker of the magazine) redesigned the magazine.

[@EyezAnEarz]

wanted the RPR but unfortunately there's no lefties in sight, so I bought the Savage in left handed bolt action and love it.

[@MarksmanTV]

That is a good point. We get alot of lefties in our store. There are so many new buyers in the gun market these days - the manufacturers that appeal to all shooters are the ones that will get the most attention, in my experience. Thanks for the comment!

[@TexasTrained]

Ruger gets the Nod of these two..It has a Muzzle Break and a Folding Stock and most important a front fore stock long enough to attatch a bipod far enough forward to do it justice...compared to Savage Stealth BA with its Short Monolithic chassis. OK CUZ..you said moving on down to the Ruger Precision at about 8:58 and had my friend all screwed up ...LOL But I straightened him out..He is from Austria

[@bboru1014able]

Thank You! Straight forward with it is what it is.

[@sjmiller6012]

Very well done. First rate through review. Thanks.

[@007NunyaBizNess]

I love Savage barrels and rifles, but the adjustable folding stock, twenty MOA rail and multiple magazine ability, is pushing me in the direction of the Ruger. I think it does look better too.

[@LoserJJA79]

Savage offers left hand models. One of the reasons I went with that. No regrets.

[@charlesparker838]

Being a lefty leaves my decision with the Savage. The price is fantastic. $935 then a $150 rebate. $775 for a fantastic weapon. Two friends have the right hand Stealth and one other has a RPR. They all told me to get the Savage. In their opinions just a better rifle.

[@user-eg1ls1dq7y]

Did you see that awesome machining inside the Ruger 👎 as a production supervisor at a machine shop I could not in good faith send that out looking like that

[@danm7298]

i went with the Savage 110 338 lapua but it has the HS stock. it was 200-300$ less than the RPR 338 at $1300. I like the look of that more than the tactical looking ones with the ar-15 grips. The only thing that sucks is you cant adjust the buttstock or fold it up. I cant find any RPRs in 338 right nowand even if i did theyd be 1500-1600. The Savage 338s come with a good muzzle break, bairly kicks.

[@patdennis3751]

AS for barrel swaps you got it wrong. First both rifles have easy change barrels with the Ruger being easiest to change out. You stated the Savage could be changed with an AR style wrench which in incorrect. You need a Savage nut wrench for the Stealth and the Ruger uses basically the same barrel mounting system as an AR and you'd use AR tools to change it's barrel.

[@dwainsw4076]

So, the $64,000 question. How do they shoot?

[@dallastexas2641]

Something to also note Chris, is that when in shooting position with both rifles, you have to take your hand away from the handle of the Savage to operate the safety, or use your free hand....vs simply operating the safety on the Ruger with your thumb like a standard AR safety...that alone is an unnecessary annoyance IMO. I don't own either but I've sold a dozen of each and that's something I noticed early on. The RPR was much more sought after than the Savage, it's a "tacticool" model 10 that has a lot added to the price.

[@Oclb]

Dallas Higgins why is that a big deal? I’ve never experienced trouble like that😂

[@SuperDarkrock]

I don't see any comments on the Savage bipod attachment. Well, it blows. Single screw you can't get to without making a special tool. So you can't reliably shoot from the bipod, bench only. But I'm not disappointed with its performance.

[@Blingem14]

lol I saw a comment that the Ruger was good and the savage was great. lol they are both budget precision rifles. There are many other options. I have no opinion on either as far as accuracy or feel. When people claim a gun like these are great they should always follow with "for the price" or "for what they are". I'd take my JP Enterprises AR-10 style over these two any day... and these are bolt guns. Battling over any rifle is such a personal discussion. Every shooter will prefer something different. None of you built these guns. The video was the best review without shooting them. He was unbiased and just told us what the rifles were.

[@sgtdarkness1]

I no this vid is sorta old but I think my comment may help someone out there. I have the 10BA in 308, nice weapon. However, the best 308 I have is the Ruger American. Light weight and just as good MOA as both of your presentations. I put a 4x12x42 Redfield on her and bingo, I have a light accurate weapon that can shoot to a mile with no problems. Cost including scope was around 600.00. No one really needs a 9+ pound weapon, unless all you do is shoot off a bench. Save your extra money for ammo or whatever. I love my 10BA but it’s the Ruger American I will carry if I’m a serious hunter or for protecting my property.

[@hawaii7569]

Both of those rifles will "shoot". So, flip a coin if you're on the fence. For many, the question revolves around aftermarket support... Even being the new kid on the block, the RPR is years beyond Savage in that perspective. Take that into consideration when buying.

[@alant3895]

Huh? How long has Ruger been making the RPR? 2.5-3 years? Savage has been making the FCP line of rifles for a heck of a long time. It is basically what the stealth action is. A blueprinted FCP Action. Also, the company (mdttac.com/) that makes the chassis for Savage has been making rifle chassis since 2009. So, ??????

[@alant3895]

How many aftermarket chassis can you put the RPR into? I do like the XLR Carbon Chassis. I looked, they don't seem to make one for the RPR? xlrindustries.com/collections/chassis/products/carbon-chassis

[@alant3895]

One last thing.... If you want aftermarket support, buy a Remington 700.

[@homefront3162]

Alan T POO

[@halfdollar86]

The RPR does have a lot of aftermarket support.......... but to say it has more is false. The savage 10 has a ton of aftermarket support. Literally anything you can imagine

[@IMD918]

been waiting for someone to compare side by side. I have been wanting the RPR but I can't find it for a decent price. There is a Savage in stock at a store nearby though. Thinking about just going with it instead.

[@MarksmanTV]

I have this one in stock at $1250.00 - we are pretty low in our area, don't know how prices compare in your area. Thanks for watching!

[@IMD918]

MarksmanTV I'm in California unfortunately, so our prices are usually higher than other states. There is a store that sells them for about that price but always out of stock. Dicks sporting good has them in stock but they want an extra $200.

[@branditox]

I bought the 6.5 RPR gen 2 new for $1225 + $25 shipping + $20 FFL Fee, two weeks ago from GunBroker. Always in stock :) Note: there was only 1 gun store in my area selling it, for $1300, and had a 9.8% tax added to it. There was only 1 at the gun show I went to last month... wanted $1400 cash plus tax. Buy online.

[@Johnyrocket70]

Brandon Petty i got one too a couple months ago from same place

[@IMD918]

rheynjer I actually just did. I went to the store and bought the savage first. In California we have a 10 day waiting period to pick up. I waited my 10 days and when I went to pick it up, they had a ruger on the shelf. I canceled my paperwork for the savage and started my paperwork for the RPR. Had to wait another 10 days but it was worth it. Just picked it up last friday!

[@Serenityindailylife]

I own both as well and the ashbury and the Howa HCR. I would say the ruger is nice but not without flaws the Keymod being the biggest, Ruger has replaced mine already because the Keymod falls off if you try to lean in to the bipod really hard to preload it. If they changed to MLOK they would not have that problem I have changed and have not had any problems at all. I would rate them as follows. The HCR is just as nice but a little smoother and just as nice really but there wass a little QC issue with my Receiver that left flashing inside, I fixed it but it was fine. the differences I have seen are very tiny but noticeable. 1.Ruger 6.5CM 2. Stealth 6.5CM 3.Ashbury Precision 308Win 4.Howa HCR 308 Win

[@craiggardner2003]

What bugged me with the Howa i looked at was the magazine rattles around like a couple of pebbles in a coke can.

[@ericvantassell6809]

I recently drooled over both at my LGS but the bolt on the savage felt way better to me. My only concern(that I haven't researched) yet is do krieger, bartlein, etc make after market barrels for savage

[@alant3895]

Yes they do and you can change them yourself.

[@stevenwg2360]

Hey, FYI the barrel nut is not AR-style and requires a proprietary wrench.

[@ericvantassell6809]

excellent video, I'm leaning more towards the savage but still considering the RPR the $500 Ruger American in 6.5(no, I"m not a .308 h8r, love my .308 carbine)

[@davidfirth2932]

Excellent, fair, and informative video. Thank you

[@MarksmanTV]

Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback!

[@studlydude2000]

great content, sir!!

[@silentbob7984]

Great video Chris! Thanks!

[@joecallahan7660]

I'm between these 2, and the Savage 12 LRP. Which one would you recommend for 1000 yard shooting?

[@andyd2960]

Wish someone made uppers for AR 10 lowers.

[@andyd2960]

I haven't found anything like I'm looking for so ill probably build a Creedmoor. I already built the lower during the "Clinton scare" so I'm in no rush

[@curtismiller8979]

@ andy d try aero precision

[@andyd2960]

Ya I checked them out. I guess I wasn't ready for the price of AR 10 parts. So ill build little by little.

[@tommyseabee2176]

Uintah Precision. They run around $1,200. 308, 6.5 Creed.

[@honda8354]

andy d ...Palmetto State Armory, had a complete upper,20"bbl,bcg,charge handle,15" free float hand guard,1 in 8 twist stainless free shipping, 499.00$,good old American greenbacks

[@deltazulu2848]

I own both. Ruger 6.5 Creedmoor and the savage in.308. I like the Ruger better because I find it is slightly more accurate. (That could be the difference in 6.5 vs .308)

[@SargesAdventures]

Good vid... thanks for sharing. I am a Lefty and been looking for a outta the box Precision Rifle; sounds like the Stealth is it.

[@montanamike53]

Stupid question I now but being a Montana boy, I would like to know if these two rifles are legal California or should I wait until I'm back in Montana to consider buying?

[@craiggardner2003]

Any thing at any time in california might not be legal. LOL

[@getrail3d994]

Im sold on the savage 6.5 creedmoor. The fluted barrel and weight advantage wins it for me. Better than the mossberg precision in those categories too.

[@CplSkiUSMC]

Need to get to the bottom line here... which rifle shoots better? Hand loads (not factory) developed for each rifle, which one prints the smallest groups? If they are equally accurate, then it comes down to features and ergonomics, but in a long range system accuracy is the biggest consideration.

[@LeftThumbBreak]

I'd say the Savage on average is more accurate, but there are other considerations. I own both.

[@landenweaver420]

I own the RPR and it is very accurate can’t speak for the savage as I don’t own one

[@kaleighflynn7691]

What are the price differences and performance outcomes?

[@conexn]

Seems to me that Ruger has more features but the Savage is easier to work on, especially if you shoot a lot. Savage is usually one of the more accurate of firearms out of the box, at least in the past not sure anymore since I build all my own riffles now on a Rem 700 style action. I have a few Savage Riffles and I do not have anything really bad to say about their guns other than I cannot find Jewel Triggers for them, have to go with Timney Triggers if you want to get trigger pull down to what I like to shoot at which is again 12oz, no more the 16oz for sure. I have had a few Ruger firearms and have found problems with many of them right out of the box and cheap materials. Bought a 10/22 for my son last year and could not even torque the scope rail on to the proper torque before it stripped out, using a digital Snap On Inch Pound tool that so I know it was right. I have noticed a lot of the times Ruger adds a lot of really nice features to make up for some of their cheaper made parts, people see more bells and whistles and jump on theirs before actually knowing the quality of the materials used, all that extra flash is no good if the gun will not produce the desired function, and that is accuracy and reliability. I mean how many of us are going to need to be adjusting our trigger pull, etc... out in the field that we need our tools built into the bolt? You really have to look at the riffle itself and not all the little extras the put on a riffle, especially if they are the same price give or take a 100 bucks or so, they love to add all these extra features to make them more appealing to get the sale over another company/brand, and you really have to stop and think about all those extra features, are you really ever going to use them? Or are they just make the riffle look cool? Your riffle has all these really nice features and can not hit the broadside of a barn, what good is it? Going a bit off topic but wanted to let folks know why I shoot with a light trigger because I know someone is going to bitch that it is to dangers. For some that light of a pull maybe dangerous if you do not have sanative trigger finger, I have even filed my finger tip down if it became desensitized. I do this strictly because I do lots of long range bench shooting outwards to over 1000 meters, the last thing you want is to pull on your trigger so hard the riffle moves. I had it down to 6oz but that was a little to sensitive because you could not get a feel at all for the trigger before it went off. Set it at what is good for you is all I can say about this, my regular hunting riffles I have set at no more the 1.5lbs and at times that is to much, but it is all what you are comfortable and used to.

[@beri232]

That Savage looks like a pressure washer gun. Lol. It definitely does not win for cosmetics.

[@leevans9693]

beri232 it does look like a pressure washer wand. I was thinking the same thing, I couldn't pin point it, but when you said it, I was like yep, it's a wand!!!!!

[@beri232]

lol... glad I wasn't the only one!

[@markej4801]

Agreed, it's the eye of the beholder. Once again, those who only look and don't experience the function can't know. For instance, I own a Beretta ARX100 which many say is butt ugly. Form follows function and sometimes the new look is due to that. The RPR looks great, but from those who own the Savage (or even both), the quality falls to the Savage.

[@beri232]

mikegrotting lol

[@alant3895]

For sure it does not look like an AR. It is a bolt gun after all. I am sure that MDT has sold a lot of the LSS and LSS XL chassis, which is what the Stealth is based on. images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrTcdtvYUdZooMA7FknnIlQ?p=mdt+lss+chassis&fr=yhs-mozilla-002&fr2=piv-web&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-002

[@badfastbusa]

Kind of sad, I'd pit my Ruger American Predator 6.5cr with either of these guns, with hand loads, I get consistent .3moa 5 shot groups. BTW, it is 1/4 the cost of either of these rifles.

[@johnt4060]

I'm thinking of getting a Ruger Hawkeye Long Range Target 300wm or a Ruger Precision 300wm