S&W Shield Plus vs Sig P365

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MarksmanTV

MarksmanTV

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@MrFmccarty
@MrFmccarty 3 жыл бұрын
Went to the store yesterday the S&W followed me out of the store! I petted it all night!
@hamacus
@hamacus 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same thing happened to me. I love my precious. Got the performance center with all the bells and whistles. Released just in time as I was looking for something a little smaller than my H&K VP9 for warm weather EDC
@kenduncan3221
@kenduncan3221 3 жыл бұрын
So you hugged it and squeezed it and called it George.
@POPJack1717
@POPJack1717 3 жыл бұрын
Did it purrr?
@zigbeegooblesnort125
@zigbeegooblesnort125 3 жыл бұрын
Now, that's funny right there.
@marquismitchell2103
@marquismitchell2103 3 жыл бұрын
I just shoot at bad guys 😏
@BuddysDIY
@BuddysDIY 3 жыл бұрын
I rly wish everyone would review guns like you bro. No Bs small talk. Packed with info in a short video. Literally best gun review
@racex428
@racex428 3 жыл бұрын
Im a glock and sig fan boy, picked the the plus on a great deal of a sale and military discount..this thing destroyed the hellcat, the sig and the g43 and g48...i have lots of guns with loads of upgrades and money into them and this plus ➕ came out of the box crushing just about every glock and sig i have....i will rate it up their with my legions...what a surprise, s&w killed it
@Corrupted-file
@Corrupted-file 3 жыл бұрын
This is a no nonsense review. All info, no lag...much appreciated. Instant sub.
@tylerreynolds7333
@tylerreynolds7333 3 жыл бұрын
True
@ljwilliams755
@ljwilliams755 3 жыл бұрын
after watching too many videos from reviewers who use SO MANY WORDS to say nothing, I find your style refreshing. Just the facts, ma'am, like I like it
@djphillips109
@djphillips109 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is the way to present. Without all the music and shooting prowess on display. Well done, sir. I will be looking into them as you advise. Thanks.
@edwardwade2696
@edwardwade2696 Ай бұрын
It is refreshing!
@dollarbillme
@dollarbillme 3 жыл бұрын
Best in depth of review of the shield I've seen yet. Thanks for showing the internals and using an actual trigger gauge.
@tygre7
@tygre7 2 жыл бұрын
The Shield Plus trigger is amazing.
@TheMystro1971
@TheMystro1971 3 жыл бұрын
I own them all. Huge P365 fan but still purchased the Shield Plus as both guns have their own personalities and both are very good at what they do. Grip angle and rapid draw-point and shoot are perfect for both. My gut says the Sig is a very slight bit better build construction but only in the compound recoil spring. Honestly, both are premium and can bet your life on so let your hands and grip tell you what feels best. The P365 is smaller but the Shield Plus feels really good in my large hands. Getting all 13 rounds in the Shield + magazine is extremely difficult at first and new shooters will believe it can’t be done. Load them all up and let the magazines break in. I highly recommend shooting the Shield + with 12 +1 for awhile until the 13 round mags loosen up.
@theMangusMac
@theMangusMac 3 жыл бұрын
this is the best gun video i have seen on youtube. everything i want to know, everything i need to know, no flashy bs
@liverpool6380
@liverpool6380 3 жыл бұрын
Love my P365
@Kazymedic
@Kazymedic 3 жыл бұрын
I have both and I have to say that the MP Plus wrecks the 365 in every way
@napalmstickylikeglue
@napalmstickylikeglue 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kazymedic so you basically purchased a taller Glock 26?
@Kazymedic
@Kazymedic 3 жыл бұрын
@@napalmstickylikeglue I assure you, this feels nothing like a glock. It is very soft shooting for its size. It has a double captured recoil spring. It also has a nice shape with a great texture. The trigger alone would set it apart from a glock. I would say it feels a lot closer to a VP9 trigger.
@napalmstickylikeglue
@napalmstickylikeglue 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kazymedic it may not feel like a Glock 26 but it is very similar to a Glock 26 in size and capacity. Except it's about 30 years behind the curve.
@johnleon2594
@johnleon2594 3 жыл бұрын
Myv hands too big for it
@n9mxq
@n9mxq 3 жыл бұрын
Picked up my Plus today.. Gotta say, I'm gonna like this little beastie.
@toynazi
@toynazi 3 жыл бұрын
Both are good choices. I bought a 365 and ended up getting an xl grip module to use with it. Now it's perfect.
@aggelos123
@aggelos123 3 жыл бұрын
U can also buy an adapter baseplate to fit the 365 mags on the xl frame.
@strawdemindset
@strawdemindset 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't doing this just like buying a xl? same size
@toynazi
@toynazi 3 жыл бұрын
@@strawdemindset Well kind of. But with the curved trigger of the regular 365. I tried the XL but didn't care for the flat trigger.
@lanuch58
@lanuch58 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding comparison. Have watched several videos comparing these two pistols and this is the most thorough by far. Most folks forget about us lefties and nice to know that both mag releases can be switched. Leaning toward the S&W but plan to test both. Well done. Thanks!
@matthewmarch8707
@matthewmarch8707 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. After watching it several times I have come to the conclusion that I want both!
@AlSiguenza
@AlSiguenza 3 жыл бұрын
I like your review style, as others have indicated, straight to the point. No fluff, gets the job done, just like m&p’s
@mikelangelo2020
@mikelangelo2020 3 жыл бұрын
The dollar bill reference was eye opening.
@benjaminponzer4448
@benjaminponzer4448 3 жыл бұрын
Dollar bill test was missleading. The shield is taller top of slide to top of trigger guard so you get less grip zone
@MarksmanTV
@MarksmanTV 3 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Ponzer The size reference from one gun to the other is irrelevant. The dollar bill is simply used to show scale. If you pull out a dollar bill and look at the video for reference, it will give you a rough approximation on the size of each individual pistol.
@benjaminponzer4448
@benjaminponzer4448 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarksmanTV but you used the bill test to say that the trigger guard of the shield was bigger cuz it was over the width of the bill. That is not accurate the reason you would say that is cuz the top of the slide to the top of the opening of the shield trigger guard is taller not because the opening is bigger
@mikelangelo2020
@mikelangelo2020 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminponzer4448 he may have made a mistake, but either way the dollar bill is still a good reference for scale.
@benjaminponzer4448
@benjaminponzer4448 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarksmanTV the 365 trigger guard is longer than the shields
@dangood5080
@dangood5080 2 жыл бұрын
You are fast and full of good info. I appreciate your style
@Wilders53
@Wilders53 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my p365 but after around 8000 rounds it started to jam up. I tried everything to fix it! After everything was done I traded it for the M&P shield plus yesterday! If you don't trust the gun don't carry that gun! Heading to the range in the morning for the first shots through the Plus!!!👍
@jawlinejawlinejawline
@jawlinejawlinejawline 3 жыл бұрын
How did the first shots go ? Just got mine !
@Wilders53
@Wilders53 3 жыл бұрын
@@jawlinejawlinejawline prefect my friend! Congratulations! You are going to absolutely love this pistol! Mine has been flawless so far!
@jawlinejawlinejawline
@jawlinejawlinejawline 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wilders53 awesome! that's good to hear
@ryanranard5187
@ryanranard5187 3 жыл бұрын
Now shield is more relevant than ever now. With the proven reliability of the shield over the issues the P365 has had in the past, I’ll take the shield +. Matter fact, I already have it lol.
@jase1125
@jase1125 3 жыл бұрын
My dad has the Shield. I have a P365XL. I have put about 2k round through it without a single malfunction. Cannot say that for my Dad's shield.
@Hymanleon
@Hymanleon 3 жыл бұрын
@@jase1125 have the original p365. Shoot over a thousand rounds and have to replace the spring already.
@jase1125
@jase1125 3 жыл бұрын
@@bulabroha 😂
@MrBuckeye63
@MrBuckeye63 3 жыл бұрын
S&W has it together with the Shield Plus Check out Handgun Hero for exact size comparison.. Surprisingly the Taurus G2C/G3C is very similar in size as the Shield Plus ... very close
@caliber693
@caliber693 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hymanleon Yes, there were known issues with the original p365. Those have since been fixed and the p365 is easily the most superior compact pistol there is.
@bruce9987
@bruce9987 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Smith just sell the new lower for $200 or less since the upper from the original shield are the same and interchangeable.
@semlohde1
@semlohde1 3 жыл бұрын
I do too as it also fits the original shield 40 top. Only thing missing is a 40s&w magazine to make it a 40s&w plus. I did swap, lower 9mm plus with upper shield 1 or mod2 40s&w is a perfect fit - as far as I can see. It racks perfectly, locks back with the 9mm mag, trigger works. I just can't get a mag for the 40 and the 9mm is just too small at the top. As far as I can see the mag or the 40 is the same size - at the top - as the 9mm, its just the follower difference and top of the mag won't let a 40 load.
@timothyblackburn2830
@timothyblackburn2830 3 жыл бұрын
Love my P365. I can tell a difference between the Shield and the P365 to the benefit of the Shield. At this time, both are close in price with the Shield being a bit less expensive. Before I purchased the P365, I shot basically all of the subcompacts. The P365 felt the best, most accurate, and the sights are phenomenal. I think the Shield is a good CCW but I give the edge to the Sig P365. My P365 was born on 5/21 so I have had no issues with it at all. I have seen tests of 3 year old P365s before improvements and I think the issues were more related to the individual shooter's grip. I changed my grip to hold. I don't ride the slide but have great points of contact so no problems with last round not holding open. As far as the irregular strokes on the P365, I can show you 300 rounds of brass with no slide marks. All rounds are exact and distinct dots in the primer with no marring on the primer. Previously, my daily CCW was a Shield but the P365 just doesn't imprint as much as the Shield I carried prior. The only criticism I have of the P365 is it takes a while to loosen the spring on the 12 or 15 round mag. I am still using a speed loader although I expect the mag spring will get loosened up as I load it more often. I like speed loaders anyway for most handguns.
@thescriptures11
@thescriptures11 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late in reviewing this video, but your comments on the P365 are spot on. This is my choice of carry as well. I, too, have a speed loader and really do not mind using it. I do like the idea of a tight spring. Thanks for sharing!!
@mattcraig4659
@mattcraig4659 Жыл бұрын
Same, I can show 2k rounds perfectly centered. Born 10.21
@Peter-rc8wy
@Peter-rc8wy 3 жыл бұрын
Clear, focused, and précised video. Outstanding job!!!!!
@alschoenbeck2615
@alschoenbeck2615 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a Sig P365 a year ago. $499 night sights and 3 mags. No contest
@Wmikewtonytone
@Wmikewtonytone 11 ай бұрын
Plus us way better
@Badger77722
@Badger77722 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the comprehensive side-by-side comparison!
@Danman911
@Danman911 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say that you gave a superb demonstration on these pistols. I am a new gun owner ( 6 months ) with no previous experience so this was very informative. I have a s&w ez and a kimber micro 9 ( which I don’t think I will keep it )… that being said I will be looking for the MNP shield plus. Thanks again
@jeffray6197
@jeffray6197 2 жыл бұрын
I traded my S&W M2.0 today for a Shield Plus! Couldn’t be happier!!👍🏻
@mattgeiger9988
@mattgeiger9988 3 жыл бұрын
Really like my smith 2.0 compact, I'm going to pick this up as well
@NorthwoodsShooter
@NorthwoodsShooter 3 жыл бұрын
Good review. It helped me decide to go with the Sig P365.
@Sam1628
@Sam1628 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the QC issues
@Futs101
@Futs101 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree about the QC isdues. Ive got about 2000 rds through mine without a hiccup. My understanding was the initial release versions had wrongly heat treated firing pins, whis has been fixed through recall as well as tighted controls during mfg.
@seethebutter
@seethebutter 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sam1628 LOL
@hectorgomez7632
@hectorgomez7632 3 жыл бұрын
@@Futs101 my p365 has a date of 2/21 and I have about 350-400 rounds through mine. I know it’s not much but no issues. Also no signs of primer drag on the shell casings. So far so good.
@shanewilfon6860
@shanewilfon6860 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sam1628 enjoy your cheap resale value. Sig us the OG in micro and your qc foolish ness. Shows your ignorance and jealousy of the sig.
@robertsilver5130
@robertsilver5130 3 жыл бұрын
Very good overview of this new S&W offering. Well done.
@danrunner84
@danrunner84 3 жыл бұрын
I like both. But I’ll stick with the 365 because it’s smaller and I already own it.
@napalmstickylikeglue
@napalmstickylikeglue 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@napalmstickylikeglue
@napalmstickylikeglue 3 жыл бұрын
@@toy4tao lol your opinion. I've fired both and the Hellcat, I'll take the 365 over them any day.
@napalmstickylikeglue
@napalmstickylikeglue 3 жыл бұрын
@@toy4tao buyers remorse? I could literally unload my sig p365 for over 600 on Armslist right now if I didn't like it...... As they are one of the most sought after concealed carry weapons. I've had it since the beginning of 2019. It's my summer carry gun. It won't be going anywhere anytime soon. From my experience individuals who don't like how the p365 shoots have weak wrists..... Perhaps that's why it wasn't for you.(ironically it has less snap than the hellcat and the Smith & Wesson shield Plus) 🤣
@napalmstickylikeglue
@napalmstickylikeglue 3 жыл бұрын
@@toy4tao It's ok, some people aren't able to afford nice things. Enjoy! 🙂
@napalmstickylikeglue
@napalmstickylikeglue 3 жыл бұрын
@@toy4tao "hey guys, my gun is tiny, and my weapons are cheap. I can't afford the average priced one so I'll run my mouth to those who can so I feel better about my failure as a man. I also can't shoot for shit, so I need an optic."
@devildog3246
@devildog3246 3 жыл бұрын
I've carried a 1st Gen Performance Center M&P9 Shield for about 6 years now I haven't really found any reason upgrade. The Shield Plus just changed that. May wait for the Performance Center, but you can't complain about this one. Great review and compare.
@alschoenbeck2615
@alschoenbeck2615 3 жыл бұрын
P365 for me all day - fits in my front pocket and super reliable. If I changed to the Shield I get into the carry OWB. P365 all day
@alschoenbeck2615
@alschoenbeck2615 3 жыл бұрын
The Shield starts to get big for front pocket carry
@troytruong8246
@troytruong8246 3 жыл бұрын
Pocket carry is not practical! Why would u pocket carry? Iwb is more tactical and practical.
@lyleswavel320
@lyleswavel320 3 жыл бұрын
9mm shield 2.0 is perfect for front pocket, 6 inches long, 1 inch wide, 4 inch depth, same as a big mans billfold
@richardsmith4187
@richardsmith4187 3 жыл бұрын
Great video with very detailed information on the comparison of both pistols ! I own both a m&p shield and the sig p-365. I have switched to the p365 as my carry due to magazine capacity ( three 12 rd mags ) but my shield I have six 8 rd mags. I don't think you could go wrong with either, BUT ..... for new owners please shoot a couple of boxes of your " carry " ammo through your new pistol to make sure if feeds and functions with that ammo.
@wayneaddison4521
@wayneaddison4521 Ай бұрын
Very good straight review with good facts and not a lot extra talking
@romeosgenericchannel3971
@romeosgenericchannel3971 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool, i want the shield plus, i carried a shield for a few years off and on be nice to have 6 more rounds same size , awesome!
@Mr.NorthSacra916Xfour
@Mr.NorthSacra916Xfour 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you would compare both with the flush magazine.otherwise awesome and expert comparison!
@BlakeBake
@BlakeBake 2 жыл бұрын
Just grabbed the Shield + bundle with night sights, optics ready, extra mags, first aid kit, and backpack. The rebate makes it a crazy deal. It also fits my hand better than the 365.
@frankisnottriggered2033
@frankisnottriggered2033 Жыл бұрын
Grabbed the same bundle, amazing little gun
@mattcraig4659
@mattcraig4659 Жыл бұрын
Change your grip numbnuts.
@frankisnottriggered2033
@frankisnottriggered2033 Жыл бұрын
@@mattcraig4659 the 365 still has a way smaller grip and it’s way snappier than the shield, the mags and gun are more expensive with less features. I feel like the only good thing going for it is the conceilability and the sig brand.
@mattcraig4659
@mattcraig4659 Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about smaller grip, factory yes tiny af, but a $60 Wilson combat module makes more sense to me than buying a new gun. Snapier? Hmmm... nothing the javelin guide rod can't control. More expensive dosnt matter when it comes to reliability and overall comfort.
@frankisnottriggered2033
@frankisnottriggered2033 Жыл бұрын
@@mattcraig4659 so you have yo pay 60$ extra to fix an issue that the shield didn’t have, plus you already paid almost 100$ more than the shield for a gun that’s comparable? From a money stand point it just didn’t make sense when I bought mine. Grabbed the same bundle with optics ready, night sights, 4 extra mags, and a little gun backpack for 450$. The Sig is great and they revolutionized the market with the p365 but I feel like there’s much better options for better prices nowadays.
@MarkSHogan
@MarkSHogan 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Loved how you sped through it. It often seems people are delaying making a point for some reason.
@hanuman3527
@hanuman3527 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. The S&W trigger looked better to me. Thank you.
@timothysalinas37
@timothysalinas37 3 жыл бұрын
It is better. I've shot both and the Plus has stepped up its trigger. But for $500+ i dont know why they didnt make it optics ready.
@mikeknape7064
@mikeknape7064 3 жыл бұрын
It's substantially better. Best in class
@7.62-MIKE-RVA
@7.62-MIKE-RVA 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 365.....and I add the 365 XL frame to make it 12+1......and I love it
@IEraiderfan
@IEraiderfan 3 жыл бұрын
Chris, an excellent side-by-side comparison I have an original 1.0 that's all we can have in Cali thanks stay safe.👍👍👍
@demetriushudson1712
@demetriushudson1712 3 жыл бұрын
You can get this 1 as well only your's come with 2 10rd mags
@lognliv
@lognliv 3 жыл бұрын
@@demetriushudson1712 Or he can leave California and get the real deal.
@IEraiderfan
@IEraiderfan 3 жыл бұрын
@@demetriushudson1712 show it to me on the DOJ roster.
@rbhe357
@rbhe357 3 жыл бұрын
Comes with the "standard Smith and Season cardboard box". I don't know why but I LOL'd for real.
@SuperSaltydog77
@SuperSaltydog77 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a head to head comparison of the hellcat, p365, and the max9
@oliverrouse2593
@oliverrouse2593 3 жыл бұрын
Honest outlaw has vidoe in that
@williamstewart6534
@williamstewart6534 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad to see a gun store owner chooses a Shield when he has such a wide field of quality guns to choose from. I have Gen 1 Shield that has been heavily modified. I also have a Gen 2 Performance Center Shield with an optic and 4.5 inch barrel. It is unmodified except for a Hogue grip. With the Shield Plus I would definitely upgrade the sights. However, I could still use the holster from my Gen 1 Shield. I believe enough in this gun that it is one of EDC’s. I had my son buy a Gen 1 when the Gen 2 came out. S&W makes a quality gun at a reasonable cost. I have guns that shoot better, but I ave a lot more money in them.
@mikelivingston6157
@mikelivingston6157 3 жыл бұрын
At first I wasn’t willing to change my first gen shield either but you may have just convinced me
@alanpedrick1562
@alanpedrick1562 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely an improvement over the 1st gen Shield. The plus doesn’t seem thicker looking at it but it does feel better in the palm of the hand.
@dannydean3024
@dannydean3024 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Good info. I own both, had an original shield and loved it. Have moved on to higher capacity. The shield plus I shoot a little better, but with pocket carry the sig with 10 rd carries easily. No bad choice. Have Houge grip on both, would not get rid of either. Also the new shield trigger is very nice.
@stealth8479
@stealth8479 3 жыл бұрын
Great pace to your video. Leave it to a fellow Hoosier to not waste my time. Comparison cuts were also on point. I didn’t feel as though any content was frivolous. I appreciate your quicker paced no nonsense approach, I’m certain many would mirror my sentiment. Keep doing what your doing!
@stroys7061
@stroys7061 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t be cheap! Dust off your wallet and pull out a second dollar bill and show both guns side by side on dollar bills. I realize this would double your working capital for the video but I think it would really improve the production quality. Seriously! Excellent review.
@jacksavage4098
@jacksavage4098 3 жыл бұрын
Very happy with my P 365. Was a little concerned about a micro-9 and handling. Put Pesrson grip extensions in it and it is very accurate and controllable. To each their own.
@jeffcolwell7391
@jeffcolwell7391 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to get both but they are little out of my budget for now will consider both when time comes
@troytruong8246
@troytruong8246 2 жыл бұрын
Taurus gx4?
@vthong50
@vthong50 3 жыл бұрын
I own both and for the p365 fans mine has numerous light primer strikes and does jam. Can't argue with how easy it is to conceal but I can't trust it. The shield has never given me a problem so I have to go with the m&p. I carry the shield and my Glocks. Just my own experience.
@wtpence4731
@wtpence4731 3 жыл бұрын
A big part of price difference is that the Sig comes with night sights ! Haven't shot the new S&W but for EDC and concealability ,can't beat the Sig w/12rd. mags,IMO.
@abc-wv4in
@abc-wv4in 3 жыл бұрын
Love my Shields-- just bought the Shield Plus but I'm keeping my Shield 2.0 too.
@electricgamez5415
@electricgamez5415 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!! A new gun review. It’s like old school🙂
@keithmcconnell3165
@keithmcconnell3165 3 жыл бұрын
P365 XL is an incredible firearm.
@benjaminponzer4448
@benjaminponzer4448 3 жыл бұрын
Xl is same size as 10 round mag shield plus
@blackhorsecavalry
@blackhorsecavalry 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminponzer4448 But they come with 12 round flat mags.
@benjaminponzer4448
@benjaminponzer4448 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackhorsecavalry yes that is the point I was getting at also you have the same grip zone as the shield 13 round magazine in a smaller size
@alvarojm750
@alvarojm750 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminponzer4448 i really like the side by side he did so I know what the new shield is like, but it’s comparing a micro to a sub compact. The xl would have been the better contender but I don’t think that’s what the vid was about.
@benjaminponzer4448
@benjaminponzer4448 3 жыл бұрын
@@alvarojm750 it really is a shield vs 365. The shield plus really is not bigger than the shield. The shield plus now 10 round magazine is basically the same height as the 365 xl 12 round, but you get the same amount of grip zone with the 365 xl as you would with the shield plus 13 round magazine.
@RealitySurvival
@RealitySurvival 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review!
@ibpositivemostly7437
@ibpositivemostly7437 3 жыл бұрын
Good video thanks. I have the gen two with the crimson trace it was less than $300 bucks so hard to pass up I’ll hold off on the new ones for a little while and see wear the prices settle.
@Penryck
@Penryck 3 жыл бұрын
Got my plus a week ago for about 500, really happy with it!
@PapaTBatonrouge
@PapaTBatonrouge 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Shield Plus Performance with optics this past Friday, and it has replaced my Shield 1st Gen as of today.. It feels exactly the same when putting shots down range and I absolutely love it... I've only put about 300 rounds in the last three days though it, but those optics feel second nature to me already... Thanks for your video!!!!! 👏 👏 👏
@TXH1138
@TXH1138 3 жыл бұрын
I have one ordered. How is that optic?
@PapaTBatonrouge
@PapaTBatonrouge 3 жыл бұрын
@@TXH1138 1st time ever shooting optics on a pistol, and I gotta say I'm IMPRESSED!! I would have thought it was a laser it was so bright and clear.. Took a few rounds for my eyes to adjust to it because I wanted to align it with the iron sights, but all in all, HOME RUN!!
@lifeonmars03
@lifeonmars03 3 жыл бұрын
@@PapaTBatonrouge great to hear!
@Futs101
@Futs101 3 жыл бұрын
I searched for and purchased the P365 Tac Pac. 3 x 12 rd mags and ambidextrous safety standard at the same price as the standard 2 x 10 rd version. Absolutely love the P365 ! The only additional accessory I've put on is a Hogue grip sleeve to add a bit of width for my long fingers. I also have the Hellcat OSP and would recommend either before the shield, nothing against S&W, Love my 686+, but in this concealment catagory they are severely outclassed.
@Etruscan70
@Etruscan70 Ай бұрын
I have both and it’s not even close , Shield plus. Just bought the shield plus PC.
@silverfox5319
@silverfox5319 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. You covered every key point. Well done.
@myrealfakename6068
@myrealfakename6068 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering how the new Ruger Max 9 stands up to either one of these two. Another great video as always Chris...first time I've ever seen a dollar bill comparison... very cool idea.
@mattgeiger9988
@mattgeiger9988 3 жыл бұрын
If it has that ec9s trigger then I'm out, it's a light trigger but so gritty and a very, very long reset.
@Mr.T711
@Mr.T711 3 жыл бұрын
Interested as well…
@micahv9365
@micahv9365 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattgeiger9988 exactly what I was thinking, put an aftermarket trigger in my EC9S and I still don’t like shooting it very much. I’ll keep my P365 for now
@alanpedrick1562
@alanpedrick1562 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattgeiger9988 from what I’ve heard the trigger is improved in Max9. I think Roger might have a contender finally to the 365/shield/hellcat group. But I haven’t shot one yet. Can’t beat the grip on the shield plus IMO.
@jnmcs
@jnmcs 3 жыл бұрын
The one glaring issue with the Ruger is the field strip process. Pushing out a pin and possibly chasing it across the floor during cleaning is a deal breaker for me.
@OutnBacker
@OutnBacker 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Shield9 early version with that dump truck trigger. I'll take it all day long over the 365. Both are good guns, but I find the 365 toy-like in my hands - which are smallish. I might get the Plus at some point, but really don't need another gun. Also, having been shooting for 40 years, I have come to the conclusion that everything new is just a variation on a theme that already exists. With that comes the thought that these compact plastic wonders are just dancing around eachother, trying to market to a niche - some niche - any niche. When I think about it, my defense needs are unpredictable, but probabilities are that it will come down to mere feet or just a few yards. So, why care so much about sights anyway. I don't. The most rudmentary sights are plenty fine if you practice. I wore a Colt 1908 for years, and a Model 60 as well. neither has good sights, but with a bit of practice at ranges likely to be encountered will have you hitting a pie plate somewhere in the middle at 7 yards with both eyes open and as fast as you can operate the trigger. Just give me a basic gun. The Shield fits that niche.
@rayfranchi1507
@rayfranchi1507 3 жыл бұрын
If the goal is the absolute smallest carry gun then choose the Sig. However the 2.4 ounce difference in weight between the two is negligible, ang pretty much indiscernible to the human body. If comfort, grip purchase, trigger pull, and controllability is the object choose the Shield Plus. I have both and now prefer the Shield Plus for my stated reasons. I have carried the Shield for several days now and forget it is there. Both are good choices so it depends on what is comfortable for you.
@johndeere1951a
@johndeere1951a 10 ай бұрын
WOW! A new Dollar Bill pistol Standard Gauge. Ground breaking 👍 quick and efficient comparison.
@jcadult101
@jcadult101 3 жыл бұрын
11:16 the sharp corner of the 365 magwell leaves a red mark in my palm after a mag or 2 and is painful after an hour on the range. Teething issues aside, it was pretty disappointing to run into at this pricepoint. I haven't tried rounding it over as show in some videos. Shield .0 fit my hand like a glove after the g43 and numerous other larger carry pieces. Its not that they felt bad or anything, but I literally picked up the Shield the first time and said "wow, that feels nice".
@_kelley7640
@_kelley7640 3 жыл бұрын
When did comfort come into carrying concealed?❄❄❄
@twatmunro9563
@twatmunro9563 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody gets to own a handgun in the UK but this is *still* interesting to me. We can but dream...
@TangoFoxtrotRando
@TangoFoxtrotRando 3 жыл бұрын
Find yourself a red state
@Mr.T711
@Mr.T711 3 жыл бұрын
Sad, I carry everyday since I live alone.
@SuperSaltydog77
@SuperSaltydog77 3 жыл бұрын
In the UK the people fear the politician, that needs to change.
@NietzscheanMan
@NietzscheanMan 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of criminals with guns in the UK.
@Mr.T711
@Mr.T711 3 жыл бұрын
@@NietzscheanMan and knives and scooters.
@r.parker8299
@r.parker8299 3 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to see how the Sig 365 compares to the new Ruger Max-9. I have the MP 2.0 and liked the feel of the Ruger Max-9 when I handled it at my local shop.
@Wmikewtonytone
@Wmikewtonytone 11 ай бұрын
I got all the micros. Shield plus is the best
@alvarojm750
@alvarojm750 3 жыл бұрын
A more even comparison would have been using the 365 xl. Appreciate the side by side though.
@podmonkey2501
@podmonkey2501 3 жыл бұрын
I like the size of the Shield better than the P365 which is just a bit small for my large hands to get a good hold of. I can shoot a Shield pretty well too. It's still small enough to easily and comfortably conceal.
@scottrobbins6216
@scottrobbins6216 3 жыл бұрын
Very intelligent review ... I happen to own the p365 ....
@juanoncello86
@juanoncello86 3 жыл бұрын
Feeding the algorithm!
@chrisragone8785
@chrisragone8785 3 жыл бұрын
Jury is still out for me. I’ve had a SIG P365 and P365XL that were flawless. However, my S&W Shield Plus broke the firing pin spring and the firing pin assembly became stuck in my slide. Had only fired 153 rounds through it after buying it NIB and now it’s a paperweight going back to Smith & Wesson for warranty work and they’re telling me 6-8 weeks!
@williamwinn948
@williamwinn948 3 жыл бұрын
bought the shield plus PC with the crimson trace gun is Amazing. Still love my MP 2.0 9mm compact.
@SIGP365
@SIGP365 3 жыл бұрын
The S&W seems OK, but I'll be keeping my P365.
@seethebutter
@seethebutter 3 жыл бұрын
Both great choices, though
@elmerfudd8887
@elmerfudd8887 3 жыл бұрын
I have both and think they're both terrific
@hellsk100
@hellsk100 3 жыл бұрын
Update for the p365 as far as chamber indicator. There is a sliver of metal that pretudes out if there is no round in the chamber. If it is flush then you know there is a round. You can see it next to where the bullets eject. You can physically feel this too
@markbabcock40205
@markbabcock40205 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video. Very well done. Most helpful in my decision process.
@matthewhartup941
@matthewhartup941 Жыл бұрын
Definitely the shield plus. I own several glocks, m&p's (a shield +), and cz pistols. My boss let me try out his p365.. honestly it's a pretty nice pistol but is too small for my hands and I'm not a fan of the trigger overall. It's really made for smaller hands. I bought my shield + new for 350 with a 50 dollar rebate.
@samhicks7568
@samhicks7568 3 жыл бұрын
Another great review, thanks.
@georgeseymour7116
@georgeseymour7116 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of laying them on the dollar bill, why not use two dollars and do a side by side? Good video!
@matthewmarch8707
@matthewmarch8707 3 жыл бұрын
@Ozark Yeoman haha!
@Johnny2Smokes
@Johnny2Smokes 3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always!
@harrycallahan9733
@harrycallahan9733 3 жыл бұрын
10:07 "You do have to break the trigger to release the slide", no you don't. The Shield Plus has what's called Sear Deactivation Lever (inside the locked open ejection port) that you push down before you take the slide off, so you don't need to pull the trigger. This is clearly stated in the user manual. This feature is like the biggest selling point for the M&P series, back when it was first released in 2005. They couldn't shut up about this every time they compare M&P against Glock :)
@carlhansen8672
@carlhansen8672 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a pkg deal for the Shield Plus "OPTIC READY" 9mm with NIGHT SIGHTS. The pkg includes 1-10 rd mag, 4 - 13 rd mags, a S&W backpack and a simple first aid kit. The pkg MSRP $599.00 with a street price of $525.00. Even though the Smith is a larger gun this deal was a no brainer for me.
@paulriccio5333
@paulriccio5333 3 жыл бұрын
Get a Hogue grip for the 365 and you won't believe how comfortable it is. Feels reminiscent of a mini VP9
@marklags2396
@marklags2396 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@srobeck77
@srobeck77 10 ай бұрын
Doesnt that basically make it just like the bigger grip on the Shield plus?
@paulriccio5333
@paulriccio5333 10 ай бұрын
@@srobeck77 No it is contoured and makes it more ergonomic like the VP9
@trainer1
@trainer1 3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. Regarding aesthetics the SIG is much leaner and more proportional. I have handled both. SIG all day everyday.
@radar_man
@radar_man 3 жыл бұрын
I have owned the P365 for a while and just picked up the shield plus performance. I like the way the shield fits in my hand but haven't shot it yet. I am going to keep both regardless.
@Ideo7Z
@Ideo7Z 3 жыл бұрын
Any idea when Shield Plus magazines will be available for sale? It's been almost 5 months since the pistol's release. I want to have extras for range use and two reloads.
@DarlingEbony
@DarlingEbony 3 жыл бұрын
I reached out the S&W about two weeks ago and they told me that they don't know when they will be available.
@limeyosu2000
@limeyosu2000 2 жыл бұрын
I am between a Glock 43x and the sig this review really makes me want the sig esp as it’s so compact.
@garyK.45ACP
@garyK.45ACP 3 жыл бұрын
Just checked...S&W Shield Plus pistols are selling for $425-500 on Gunbroker (actual selling price) Shield 2.0s have dropped in price and are currently selling under $300. Just a few weeks ago, you couldn't touch a Shield 2.0 under $400. S&W is going to sell a shitton of these pistols and this is going to be a great time to snatch up the 8+1 Shield for bargain prices. The original Shield was one of the most popular pistols for a reason
@jmike212
@jmike212 3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a Shield plus now we just need CZ to release something comparable.
@lukesmith981
@lukesmith981 3 жыл бұрын
Got a CZ Rami. It’s pretty solid.
@DarlingEbony
@DarlingEbony 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukesmith981 I have a Rami too and love it!
@Scorch1028
@Scorch1028 3 жыл бұрын
I like the longer grip of the Shield Plus compared to the P365. The Shield Plus has a tiny bit wider grip, and slide length, and it’s only 2.4 oz. heavier than the P365. The ammo capacity between these 2 pistols is negligible. I think what it really comes down to is your individual comfort holding and firing either weapon. I have strong hands and forearms, so I’ve never experienced the “snappy recoil” that so many shooters complain about in micro-subcompacts like the P365, Hellcat, Glock 43, MAX-9, or Shield Plus.
@shirolee
@shirolee 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you for making this video
@ygScrim
@ygScrim 3 жыл бұрын
been waiting for a comparison. Once you get in a Performance Center Plus in I'm looking forward for that as well
@mrbreck1
@mrbreck1 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, but i think a more fair comparison would be shield plus and p-365 xl. I am intrigued by the shield plus but i have the p365 with the 12 round mags made by pro mag. The pro mags 12 round mags i found for 19 dollars each, half of sig branded mag cost.Due to lack of 9mm in my area i only have 150 rounds each through 3 mags. Only one mag had some issues and that seems to have passed after 40 ish rounds. I am looking for a carry pistol to gift to my father as i had noticed he has taken to leaving his striker fired autos downloaded a round and cocked with a clear chamber as he said it is easier for him to chamber. I had been considering the shield ez.
@ygScrim
@ygScrim 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrbreck1 id definitely have him check out a shield ez performance center at your local shop. The slide truly makes a great difference
@danielaramburo7648
@danielaramburo7648 3 жыл бұрын
Both are excellent options. I prefer Sig.
@Badhagis
@Badhagis 3 жыл бұрын
Went and looked at the Smith, the P365, and the Hellcat yesterday. I want to point out that in the opening pic, the Smith looks substantially larger than the P365, but in reality it isn't that much of a difference overall. I will say that the trigger on both of these was really nice, and the reset was also outstanding. The trigger and the reset on the Hellcat were also really good too, but the other two were slightly better. The grip of the Sig is SMALL. If you have larger hands like me, you'll swallow up the Sig. The Smiths sights were just Ok, and the grip texture was a bit too aggressive (IMHO) for appendix carry. The Sigs sights and grips were really nice, but the Hellcats were outstanding (especially those sights). So, in retrospect, the grip size of the Hellcat was right between the the other two, the sights are better, it has one more round capacity (flush fit mag), the trigger was pretty damn good, and it was cheaper than the other two... I walked into the gun store convinced I would buy the Smith, and walked out with the Hellcat.
@MusicLuv80
@MusicLuv80 Жыл бұрын
comparing to dollar bill is brilliant! this is awesome!
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