Pentagon Dark the Lucha Underground spark?

[@Markyd123]

You choose the final grade on this one!

[@crazyshark8000]

Giving it an A. He was One of the Few Good things LU had going near the End.

[@tomg6220]

A

[@colonelkenpachi5009]

A

[@SamPugh-ru2yf]

A

[@MegaTeddie500]

A

[@HyperGameReviewTv]

The fact that despite so many losses, fans still cheer for Pentagon honestly speaks for his charisma. He's probably one of the few wrestler that losing match doesn't matter because his charisma will regularly overshadowed that lost. Also Pentagon pretty much shine the best in hardcore match but unfortunately, he's not usually in one in major US promotion.

[@TheRvDGamers]

I couldn't agree more Mr. Pickens

[@HyperGameReviewTv]

​@@TheRvDGamers didn't expected to run into another believer here but thank you

[@charskull]

Always trust the pickens lol

[@PKDeviluke25]

I would definitely like to see more Lucha Underground video regarding wrestler runs. So many good matches and insane storylines.

[@volodymyrbilyk555]

Morrison vs Luchasaurus!

[@KalmoK]

Too bad they really screwed everything up, leaving wrestlers with bad tastes by not releasing their contracts even tho the damn show was over... I would also love for it to return, but if there isn't a new management running things nobody would actually trust them to return. Sad, but luckily there are so many companies with good wrestling that I don't mind too much

[@rapcoremanx]

The weirdest thing about the Black Lotus triad match is seeing Mayu Iwatani perform as heel, she is the ultimate babyface in STARDOM

[@TheMC1102]

They tried to recreate this gimmick in AEW... and it didn't turn out so well.

[@volodymyrbilyk555]

Lack of storylines and character does it

[@ysetiadji]

You mean that Penta Oscuro thing ? That was dumb.

[@Chris-eh7fd]

🤓☝️​@@volodymyrbilyk555

[@JoeChillton]

They have storylines, not that much of a habit of making them great @@volodymyrbilyk555

[@Junketsuadidas]

@@ysetiadjicool theme though

[@zeerocool666]

This run gets an A...no other company he has been apart of has ever come anywhere close to channeling how god tier he was in LU and he was allowed to basically be the ultimate wildcard and that Black Lotus match is the greatest televised intergender match of all time and honestly that match alone should get him an A rating.

[@IBeNerdy76]

An A imo. The character was amazing, and he felt like a star. Plus, the matches were definitely the best ones this season

[@realitytellslies]

I love Penta, I am one of those suckers chanting his name , A as Lucha Underground as its his best work in the states by far.

[@ideaschest]

Io Shirai is also in WWE now as a WWE Women's Champion

[@PaddyStrongjaw]

King Cuerno is also in WWE as Santos Escobar.

[@michaelparkinsonsfreeparkerpen]

@@PaddyStrongjaw Prince Puma is Ricochet too

[@ShiningJudgment666]

The fact Io's the champion is a bit more significant. Also former NXT Women's champion, has held both Women's Tag Team Titles in WWE and is one title away from Grand Slam Champion status in WWE.

[@KalmoK]

Literally everyone from LU are on WWE, TNA or AEW nowadays. It's sad how badly LU dealt with everything, for example refusing to release wrestlers or let them wrestle elsewhere.. The show was awesome and they ended everything with bad tastes all around, nobody would propably return if they came back somehow.

[@arrownoir]

Yeah, she’s always been really good. A well deserved title.

[@PaddyStrongjaw]

IIRC, he had to be called Pentagon Dark in LU due to copyright issues with AAA owning the Pentagon Jr. name. That's also why he worked indies as Penta El 0 Miedo.

[@oatz8449]

Just like LA Parka and WCW L A Park are different because of copyright

[@VladamireD]

@@oatz8449 yeah, like La Parka, AAA own the Pentagon Jr. character and likeness. It's why they call him Penta in AEW.

[@staalhard666]

Lucha Underground, still the absolute best wrestling-based show ever. Incredible how much crazy sh-t that talent roster did for such a low payday.

[@Anynom]

We need more Lucha Underground

[@volodymyrbilyk555]

Mlw got your fix. They even brought in Dario and he was glorious - he killed Salina, run roughshod, then Salina came back to take over.

[@Markyd123]

@@volodymyrbilyk555as much as I enjoy MLW their taping schedule really spoils the show for me. I hate how a wrestler disappears for two shows then returns. I just like consistency. It could be a very good show.

[@volodymyrbilyk555]

@@Markyd123 yeah, that's a problem. Their prepandemic shows with Fatu were tremendous - early Cobra Unit had vibes

[@BrandanTheBroker]

I will go to my grave believing if Lucha would have been on any other network like Telemundo or Univision then maybe we would still be seeing new episodes. Not saying it would be a WWE or TNA rival, but could have been something special.

[@Vampiro60181]

I wish it could be like that. However AAA was looked down upon for doing the action scene on Lucha underground. Maybe if it was one of the newer channels today...

[@BrandanTheBroker]

@@Vampiro60181 so maybe like Vice?

[@Vampiro60181]

@@BrandanTheBroker or even that Network TNA is on.

[@BrandanTheBroker]

@@Vampiro60181 what network is TNA on these days? I can never find them. I can find WOW and Championship Wrestling From Hollywood, but never TNA and that's kinda sad

[@Vampiro60181]

@@BrandanTheBroker AXS TV, which owns the promotion

[@SkateSoup]

"I know you don't like long videos" I'm down for 40+ minutes if it's Lucha Underground.

[@bootleggodzilla1]

Just in case you didn't know matanza from lucha underground was Jeff Cobb who has tons of great matches in other companies too.

[@RC99_Productions]

Always great to see more Lucha Underground stuff on your channel...... insert day number whatever here of me requesting Marty "The Moth" Martinez's run in Lucha Underground, especially after his feud with Pentagon here.

[@staalhard666]

That dude's run was soooo good. From comedy jobber to psycho heel world champion.

[@AltamaLFG]

This was pretty freakin awesome, not just Penta but seeing alot of other familiar faces doing cool stuff!

[@Honk_Hogan]

As someone who’s never seen it aside from the Hawk’s vids, I really dig the dark lighting and dirty ass mat they had in LU. Makes it look like a crime thriller kinda

[@johnsapp8810]

I absolutely love long videos. Please give us more, because I love your content

[@nebfreely317]

I'd say an A... crowd loved em, good matches, nice attire and good believable power moves.

[@jiovanysoltero923]

Pentagon was legit the first Mofo that I think of that Brought back The Coolness aspect of wrestling and Lucha it was some gangster shit his charisma was off the roof weather it was from his chanting of Cero Miedo or even after a move that made him even more Hyped up.

[@gian3008]

Sometimes I wonder if Tony Khan ever watched LU. If he had, he surely wouldn't be discounting the talent as much as he has. Seriously, the difference between LU Penta and AEW Penta is shocking.

[@MetaniteHall]

I mean, he's been a tag team and trios champion. At first, he was booking him more times than often but i think because of CMLL is why he doesn't so much. Last match was with Eddie kingston and Pac vs YB and Okada.

[@ysetiadji]

He was relegated to tag team division in AEW because Young Bucks need tag team to make them good.

[@gian3008]

​@@ysetiadji yeah, I saw that mid-comment, but I feel their tag division could use more storylines. Not just relying purely on "watch this never before seen team-bout" or "we'll book our top teams with storylines and the rest just flounder." What excuse is there for not giving Penta anything besides title runs. It just makes those wins forgettable.

[@gian3008]

​@@MetaniteHall I too like that he at least gets booked. If AEW is happy with AEW Penta, then that's fine. Maybe he's supposed to be a midcarder. Ain't no way we can call him a top guy. Otherwise he'd either be out his tag team or the division itself would be given more promo time.

[@billykl2790]

It couldn't be he is almost 10 years older

[@RC99_Productions]

Also (last comment from me this time), the masked guy at the end with Vampiro at 39:37 is played by an Australian wrestler called Australian Suicide (not related to Suicide from TNA). There were obviously plans for him being with Vampiro but it got shut down when Lucha Underground got cancelled after Season 4. His character name was.... and I'm being serious here... "Hexagon Dark".... (slow claps)

[@SJT929496]

To be fair, Penta’s first rival was Octagon Jr.

[@ysetiadji]

Seems like they were planning some kind of "Lucha God" storyline with faction involving Wade Barrett, Jack Swagger, Vampiro, Hexagon, Dario Cueto's father, and probably a possesed Taya. Against a new faction lead by Aerostar and newly resurrected Dario Cueto.

[@Markyd123]

Hexagon Dark 😂 man I miss when wresting wasn’t so serious

[@lenin17301560]

12:06 From a weird intengender match to a WrestleMania title bout, Io has certainly come far.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Well deserved after seeing this. Like, wow.

[@tobznoobs]

she needs another title run in 2025, no damage control to break up, or break them up once asuka returns.

[@Whootzie]

I'm a huge Pentagon Jr. fan. I have a Pentagon Jr. mask that was hand made in Mexico. I call it Pentagon Blood.

[@jamieholmes4751]

I honestly thought Pentagon Dark had more than 30 matches with Lucha Underground PD was definitely one of my favourite LU wrestlers and the MVP of the poor season 4 😃😃😃

[@TimTE01]

Pentagon did between the 2 gimmicks.

[@Markyd123]

Pentagon Jr did but dark only had 29 as the company finished prematurely 😢

[@megaflux7144]

thank you for making the world a better place.

[@lbdjthethird1240]

You know, I understand why Pentagon is not everyone's cup of tea. I absolutely fell in love with him right from the jump though. He is not that traditional luchador, more like a lucha strong style and I really enjoy that. Plus his look is so damn evil that I cannot help but be hooked.

[@bootleggodzilla1]

The Irish car bomb was a move that Scott steiner invented in Japan he did it a bit in WCW too. It's a back flip body slam so pretty crazy stuff for the late 80s and early 90s for WCW.

[@joesc4253]

Great vid as always! Whats the background music playing around 3:30 minutes in

[@Krieger45]

I guess it's an A at least because of the overall popularity among the crowd. They really went alive for his matches

[@grinch1666]

I loved this run when I initially watched it. Now I’m wondering if I was more drawn to the character vs. the wrestling. Would love more coverage of Lucha Underground!

[@KalmoK]

Laughed a little how you spelled Kairi Sane's name 😂 But I understand tbh. I like her as a wrestler, it's sad that Vince really didn't get her and butchered her first run. Triple H is luckily way better at running the show!

[@brandonyouth5241]

"the mask is filtering out some bad breathe" idk but these words came out in the wake of some crazy moments between two lucha freaks sounds pretty hilarious

[@JMSK248]

Penta's run in Lucha Underground is what made him one of my favorite wrestlers in the world today. There's no one quite like him. Cero miedo!

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

Pentagon Jr was my favourite wrestler from Lucha Underground and even though I don't understand him I think he's a good promo.

[@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269]

Is this the same Vampiro that had that match with Sting in WCW? If so he looks Way different, I wouldn't have guessed that was him in a million years.

[@Markyd123]

Two decades and an unhealthy life style can do that. Stay clean stay lean my friend!

[@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269]

@@Markyd123 you got that right, I still enjoy a little smoke here and there but I quit drinking and everything else over 10 years ago. About to be 40 in June and I would hate to see what I'd be like if I hadn't cleaned up my addictions. Another one that's hard to recognize is Sunny, karma and time double teamed the shit outta that lady. 😅👍

[@phychmasher]

2:18 It's a shame Vampiro got stung by 800 bees.

[@ItsAVolcano]

Lucha Underground benefited from being filmed in a rough part of LA, so a huge chunk of the audience could understand Pentagon jr. and the other luchadors more or less.

[@robbiemac281]

I'm still waiting for the RingKaKing version of LuchaUnderground. We're the only 2 RKK fans I've ever known of, so I know you'll love it just as much. Be good man.

[@Markyd123]

What a full review episode by episode?

[@robbiemac281]

@@Markyd123 I was thinking more 4 at a time like your Ring Ka King and then a full season compilation with any interviews you could get from former stars, I'll get a punch in the gut for this one, but Chavo is around and would be a good source, That's half serious, half you'd have said the same thing if our places were reversed. Have a great weekend man.

[@shadic1988]

I'd give him an A

[@andrewparker1847]

He got beaten up by women, I wouldn't call that being booked strongly.

[@iyunique]

you gotta checkout swerve strickland's run in LU heavily underrated

[@capoko27]

You need to do a video on Marty the Moth video

[@CaptainBadNews]

Lucha underground was such a cool promotion. All these guys are crazy talented, I could watch these people fly around the ring all day!

[@gian3008]

People who haven't seen it will assume Penta was already a made man, but nah, he got over all on his own from scratch. It's a shame AEW won't let him cut Spanish promos. As a Spanish-speaker, he cut great promos. And if I had to compare it, it'd be something like Kevin Steen. Intense, but in Spanish.

[@bolognatugboat9658]

I know how much you love Chavo Jr. I saw him main event a show booked in a theater room at a local casino here in Edmonton against Lance Storm. The ceiling was so low that when a wrestler stood on the top turnbuckle they could literally touch the ceiling with their hands. It was brutal and not in the good way.

[@KalebCenite]

Matanza Cueto is Jeff Cobb from ROH/NJPW

[@TheNormalUnstable]

So much spams with piledrivers, especially Canadian destroyer

[@Kingofb0ngstyle]

The way you say Puma makes my head spin lol

[@Justin-Thyme]

Crowd reaction was great. In ring action was always solid, even when he was overshadowed. He was a bit weird psychology-wise: he's not a big man, but couldn't really work a small man role either. I honestly did not remember him losing so much, though, it's kind of weird considering he was definitely a big part of the show. The run is a B for me: it should have been an A, but the booking held him back a bit. And goddammit that episode with the Black Lotus Triad was a joy!

[@artirony410]

9:50 "Kairi Sahney" lmfao

[@JoaoDuLag]

Hey marky, you could try to do Damian Priest in ROH, he'd be a good fit for this season

[@gian3008]

Somehow, I think his run as Punishment Martinez just barely edges out what he has now in terms of quality.

[@markosziss6452]

In the beginning he didn’t really do much, but overtime, he kept improving to the the point of having the best matches, he deserves an A for improvement.

[@CallMeCrazyCallMePoor]

I know fantastical wrestling is easy to screw up, but the idea of doing a wrestling promotion season by season, having everybody come in to play a character and tape their storyline, was genius. I'm surprised no one else as tried it.

[@RC99_Productions]

Also, Matanza's finisher is incorrectly stated as the Irish Car Bomb (I think that's the Irish Airbourne AKA OVE's finisher before they went to TNA?). Matanza's finisher name is The Wrath Of The Gods (That spinning powerslam thing). Under the mask, he is Hawaiian wrestler Jeff Cobb and that same finisher is called The Tour Of The Islands.

[@VladamireD]

The "Irish Car Bomb" wasn't incorrectly called, because it isn't the Tour of the Islands (he hits that much later in the match, at 4:16, Hawk called it "his wacky powerslam"). The "Irish Car Bomb" was the backflip slam he did at 3:55 where he holds his opponent in "sack of shit" position but instead of throwing the opponent backward like Scott Hall, he backflips and lands ontop of his opponent, that's the "Irish Car Bomb" (and for those interested, it's named after a drink like a boilermaker: a "bomb shot" of Irish cream and whiskey dropped into a glass of Irish stout). Here's someone doing it off a ladder (13 years ago this was posted!): kzbin.info/www/bejne/rn2QiKOnd5KaeK8si=0vatsDZyXeANkjk5

[@rauladdams5709]

Vampiro looking like Lars from the band Rancid.

[@feckyoo2]

When did Vampiro morph into Uncle Fester?

[@MrBlazemaster525]

When he got old

[@Cocakula00]

Late with the reply but the movie perc angle was in I’m pretty sure it was the warrior (2011) he was a Russian mma fighter

[@Markyd123]

I reviewed three of his movies didn’t realise there was another one?

[@TimTE01]

He’s also a random guy in a few Movies like Sharknado 2 (where Rifftrax call him ‘overinflated Vin Diesel’), The Last Witch Hunter and Dylan Dog- Dead of Night.

[@jimbo_1312]

It was warrior, not the warrior. But you're right, Angle played Koba... that film had a great cast.

[@Cocakula00]

@@jimbo_1312 I always found it using the warrior sorta force of habit now 😂

[@MichaelSpikes-pv6kl]

Great video

[@internetfamouz]

Drago was one of my favourite luchadores in LU, so underrated feels like he hardly ever won.

[@staalhard666]

Drago was pushed heavily initially, then got lost in Rey Mysterio's shadow and completely dwindled when they forced him into that snake tribe as their hostage.

[@Geezer2264]

Definitely need to do Fenix's run in Lucha Underground

[@SNOWDUDE13]

Really wish LU didnt lose the amazing vibe it had for its first 2 seasons. Man it was astronically good to watch, i seriously miss it.

[@akbullworm]

I’d say an A, definitely redeemed himself in the 2nd half. Also gotta get a Yoshi Tatsu main roster run for ROH in

[@josefrees]

The gift of the god title belt looks really cool

[@seanbhoycfc4834]

Really glad you picked this topic Marky 👌 I Miss LU and even more so I miss the Cross Promoting between It and TNA. Even during the GFW darkness it was something to truly be hyped for. As much as TNA's production has shown recently just how much it needs Scott or someone of equal passion and attention to detail, I am a huge fan of the Lucha Bros and would love a TNA return. Not that Penta or Fenix are wasted in AEW at all but in TNA they still got to be the natural wonderful team they are and singles stars in a US promotion. TNA was and still would be the place where they could make a significant Impact in consistent solo matches and angles as well as the Tag division. Don't see it happening any time soon but it would be a major get for TNA if it did. Wish there was more space in AEW for them to do more in singles matches. Great Upload

[@biig_silva]

ShoutOut to Jeff Cobb and his Skills! Matanza was a very credible and strong character 🙌🏾

[@philiphunn194]

Lucha Underground was so much fun. Although that ring looks like the floor of a slaughterhouse.

[@zyadashraf6075]

What's that cool background music? Is that an obscure theme song?

[@josefrees]

Holy crap that iyo match was awesome

[@alexytxg]

Commenting on every new video until J&J security gets a video

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

Man you really didn't hear his message in the last episode.

[@LavaCaptain-yf6iu]

Ironically I think Pentagon Jr actually DOES fight Vampiro

[@PulpChristian]

All I learned in this video is how badass Kairi Sane and Iyo Sky truly are. Those girls can truly beat someone up.

[@chelsea6671]

Yurei from the intergender match (second one in the order) is Mayu Iwatani and she is without exaggeration one of the best in the world today. I know that gets thrown around a lot now but she truly is one of the goats. Would highly recommend her matches with both of the ladies who were with her here in Iyo and Kairi.

[@matthewalexander8307]

I watched lucha underground on Netflix when it was on there. The stories really hook you in and the athleticism is something else. How can I watch it again?

[@wweminehead]

RKK Scott Steiner for ROH please

[@Keithchan2024]

This got recommended to me. I think it’s one month late though

[@mikeawesome9212]

I only watched one or two seasons of Lucha Underground and dont remember much about it. I know Pentagon and Vampiro did have a match and at the end of the match it was revealed that Vampiro was behind Pentagons change. It was a good match and i didnt even think Vampiro could go anymore. I think it was a good match anyway. Haha and Ricochet/Puma was basically the guy for the whole first season.

[@cleancook695]

Lucha unground made me a penta fan without a doubt

[@jackryan8736]

Honestly, I would argue a B for Pentagon Dark in this one, purely because of how the character overshadowed his work, and his earlier loses did hurt him a bit. But overall quite enjoyable regardless.

[@YeTism]

Hopefully we see Roman’s title run when he loses. Will be a long ass video tho

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

Roman Reigns reign of terrior

[@BigmanDogs]

It's such a shame that Lucha Underground didn't work out, I think he fact that it happened during the peak of the smark indie spotfest no story needed zeitgeist hurt it. That and their business mismanagement.

[@gian3008]

Let's get The Dicks on Ring of the Hawk! Only 25 matches on WWE TV. You can do it, Marky!

[@Thornfinna876]

@Markyd123 please do Bruiser Brody matches in WCCW/WCWA for Ring of the Hawk please 🙏

[@kennyking9347]

Now that we are getting Keith Lee soon, I’m with you brother let’s get bruiser Brody

[@giovannimorelli4592]

Could you do for a ROH Karrion Kross in Lucha Underground as The White Rabbit?

[@MiOMio-zu3ky]

I just found out that Matanza cueto was jeff cobb

[@CasoDoBronx]

Who hates longer vids? We love it

[@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269]

Anyone else think Matanza just pretty much looks like the guy from the Splatter House series on Sega Genesis? 😄👍

[@OmniBui]

Crazy how Mayu Iwatani has been so good for so long! These intergender matches actually weren't that bad as not a fan of intergender. I just hate how intergender matches become a gimmick of 'wowie look at the small girl take on the big scary man o_o'. These were more equal, with them all just being wrestlers. The lucha style helps a lot too! Penta isn't the best worker, super repetitive with the zero fear stuff, but he's so fucking cool! He's got really fun moves. Love that package piledriver! The Lucha Bros' run with the AEW tag belts and Death Triangle's trio run in AEW was awesome! I thought teaming PAC up with The Lucha Bros was so stupid at the time, but it has worked out! PAC is top tier, up there with Razor, Owen, and Ishii as a legend who never won the big one. You should do Orange Cassidy's first run with the AEW International title. That was best title run match-wise anyone has had in years!!

[@grahamwebb1367]

its hard for marky to keep his length down comments section 😂

[@ASwagPecan]

He has a good look

[@jordandill7863]

i wouldn't mind seeing a ROH video on Marty "The Moth" Martinez

[@eerc0]

Can You do a vid on tna/wwe wrestlers in mexican promotions? Abyss vs LA Park would be funny. Kurt Angle wrestled in mexico. Even slap nuts was in mexico.

[@Markyd123]

I really want to make that video but the footage is hard to come by. There was actually a storyline where tna invader AAA

[@dilnaylomogorhaiyee1450]

Love longer vids💪

[@Lightman0359]

Johnny Mundo kinda looks like a dollar store AJ Styles. At least in the first match, in the second Warfare, he looks more like a young Sean Waltman, 123-kid/early X-Pac days

[@grafspe807]

He had a street fight with Vamperio if i can recall that was pretty good

[@Markyd123]

Yes I remember that one. That was before Pentagon Dark. 2015 I believeZ

[@grafspe807]

ahh yea that was pre dark penta forgot@@Markyd123

[@Albinoafroman316]

I rank this a "B", everyone knows the reason Markyd123 loves Petagon is because its just JeffJarrett in a mask.

[@mrbransformer4184]

Should have done a previously on X-men parody at the beginning.

[@TheNath87]

Lucha Underground looks really good. Anyone know where I can watch full episodes?

[@Kingofb0ngstyle]

Penta Dark is the best version of Penta