I remember feeling sorry for Hakushi as a kid. He started losing a lot but he was so good. He started off winning then he started losing a lot but his move set was so good.
@djpegao2 жыл бұрын
Man, Hakushi had like 95% of the roster moveset. It's no wonder he was not getting good feuds when he showed he was better than most of them. Only Bret & Sean could hang with him.
@matthewmagda49712 жыл бұрын
Facts.
@KozyKool22872 жыл бұрын
Had a really good match against the 1-2-3 Kid too.
@plannein11 ай бұрын
@@KozyKool2287 That's Sean lol
@LegendKiller1fan2 жыл бұрын
All you Ring of the Hawk fans should look up Hakushi's aka Jinsei Shinzaki's Diary/Journal of his time in the WWF, he was really dedicated to becoming the best japanese wrestler in the USA and really cared about the fans even though they booed him.
@uainjansun2 жыл бұрын
That makes me respect jinsei even more!
@dnickx2 жыл бұрын
Did not know about this...where can we get his journal?? Thanks!!
@CeemPlay2 жыл бұрын
Scandalous that it wasn't mentioned in the video
@starrcade67092 жыл бұрын
@@dnickx I know there is a english translation of the journal available on Twitter. It's not the entire thing but some tidbits from it.
@lexxtyson25592 жыл бұрын
I was working at Hershey many many moons ago I was getting dropped off to work by my parents. I waiting his food order saw Barry Horowitz then recognize who I was serving told my boss my boss gave them free food
@rearviewracing47892 жыл бұрын
At least it's good to know that Hakushi is still going, and is still doing great in-ring in Japanese promotions in 2020s
@jipsumies34352 жыл бұрын
He wrestled week ago in tv
@praveshmaharaj43872 жыл бұрын
@John Williamson people who watch wrestling for the actual wrestling and not the "Entertainment" , universe mark.
@rusty9514 Жыл бұрын
@@praveshmaharaj4387 oh my science he just did 5 backflips followed by a top rope Canadian destroyer and it's a 2 count this is wrestling clap clap clap clap clap
@nwf9525 Жыл бұрын
@@rusty9514you think hakushi is doing that? hell no. stay in your lane
@Nikelaos_Khristianos9 ай бұрын
@@rusty9514 Go and watch his tag team match with Hayabusa in ECW against RVD and Sabu. You owe it to yourself.
@louthegiantcookie2 жыл бұрын
Hakushi was SO cool. I loved his ominous theme music, and just how menacing he looked compared to so much of the roster during that time. Had he shown up in 96 when guys like Foley, Austin and Goldust were hitting their stride? I bet he would have had a more famous run.
@anonluxor4702 жыл бұрын
I think he was supposed to be the opposite of the undertaker in Japan
@Breakfast_of_Champions2 жыл бұрын
@@anonluxor470 An obstetrician?
@bennett4203162 жыл бұрын
They had taka michinoku in that era
@stankingzton35642 жыл бұрын
Hakushi/Mankind would've been money!
@mattclark87462 жыл бұрын
@Breakfast of Champions just rolls right off the tongue. "My god! It's the Obstetrician! Time to cut the cord, cuz he's here to deliver, baby!"
@tafua_a2 жыл бұрын
I don't know who said it, but I read that a wrestling personality once said that Hakushi's demotion was what smartened him up to the business. He went "wait a minute, this guy went from being on par with Bret Hart to struggling against Skip?"
@Vampiro601812 жыл бұрын
The way Hakushi was booked must of been the reason Vince Russo was convinced Japanese wrestlers would never get over in the US.
@danielsalinas66832 жыл бұрын
In russo’s mind, the only way they could get over was having a bunch of them cut off Val Venus’ ding a ling live on raw
@SportNewz12 жыл бұрын
Wrong. The way they wrestle and can't cut a promo is. That's why njpw can even beat impact in rating's. ✌️
@SportNewz12 жыл бұрын
@@danielsalinas6683 your still talking about it decades later
@kysheni19965 ай бұрын
@@SportNewz1people still talk about Owen falling to his death does that mean it’s good?
@DSPGamingR.E.A.L5 ай бұрын
@SportNewz1 People also still talk about Katie Vick, WTF is your point?
@mider-spanman55772 жыл бұрын
Jinsei Shinzaki was so underutilized in his WWF run and was supposed to feud with the undertaker, which would have been such a great set of matches! I love his tag teaming with Hayabusa, and he was such a great in-ring worker.
@james_the_animator2 жыл бұрын
@johnwilliamson3752If you get rid of workrate, then why does pro wrestling exist? Why wouldn’t I just watch Star Wars like most folks do?
@james_the_animator2 жыл бұрын
@johnwilliamson3752 Because fans appreciate good matches on the undercard. Don’t try to convince me that Savage vs. Steamboat at WM3 was a worthless match and everybody only remembers that show for Hogan/Andre. Also, the Attitude Era had plenty of good if not clean matches in the main event, especially in the back half.
@james_the_animator2 жыл бұрын
@johnwilliamson3752 Do you think people just stopped watching Raw in droves when his matches came on? 😉
@Willtendo22 жыл бұрын
Big ups to the Hawk for giving his editor a shout-out. Very few KZbinrs actually even acknowledge that they have editors or people to help them out.
@rdu2392 жыл бұрын
Hakushi is an intense workhorse, always present even if the match ends in a wacky finish with him losing, he still maintained strong work ethic
@UndergroundSkat20002 жыл бұрын
Hakushi was definitely ahead of his time. Very ominous looking with his entrance attire, reminds me of Raiden. Bret Hart took time off after his loss to Bob Backlund at the end of 94 due to kayfabe injury to film Lonesome Dove, when he returned in early 95 he had a short feud with Hakushi. He claimed Hakushi's finisher was the most painful move ever used on him, but Hart won every match vs him. Kwong is Savio Vega with a mask BTW
@rdu2392 жыл бұрын
Is his japanese characters in his body actual tattoos or just temporary ink?
@UndergroundSkat20002 жыл бұрын
@@rdu239 temp
@highermedia2 жыл бұрын
Which finisher? Didn't like like he even had one in this video
@UndergroundSkat20002 жыл бұрын
@@highermedia the cartwheel splash that RVD uses. The one that isn't the rolling thunder
@Brando-Lee37252 жыл бұрын
I loved Hakushi . His match with Brett was great . Then I found his matches under Jensai Shinzaki and I REALLY became a fan !
@emperortrevornorton31192 жыл бұрын
Every time I watched his matches it felt like a final boss character in a martial arts movie more so than a pro wrestling gimmick
@grafspe8072 жыл бұрын
At the time i thought he could have been the next Great Muta with the right build and push . But Muta had Gary Hart as his manager who is an underrated talker IMO and was presented as a true threat. Haksushi was in wrong company at the wrong time sadly
@stankingzton35642 жыл бұрын
Hakushi's manager Shinja is Orient Express' Sato from 1990 WWF. Ricky Santana is from WWC Puerto Rico and wrestled in a mask as the Iceman for W*NG in Japan and some Big Japan Pro Wrestling shows
@sumobo71082 жыл бұрын
impressive with the knowledge
@willkayl87932 жыл бұрын
Shinzaki was so good (still is I’m sure), it’s a shame that WWE had no clue what they had on their hands. Unfortunately for Hakusi, he was foreign so WWE did what WWE does with foreign workers. Check out Shinzaki’s work in Japan if you want a good idea of how great he really was.
@SeanOMatic2 жыл бұрын
The thing I admired most about Hakushi was his dedication to those Sharpe marker tattoos. That had to take some serious work to keep going every week vs. actually getting tattooed.
@derkaiserzen2 жыл бұрын
He's only doing it in WWF/E due to the weekly program. In Japan, the Sutras writing is for Big Match, Big Event only
@SeanOMatic2 жыл бұрын
@@derkaiserzen I know, that's why I made the comment. He did it for EVERY match in WWE, which had to take a lot of time as opposed to only doing it in big main events in Japan.
@MikeGodetteMusic2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been hoping you’d do this video for a long time. You never disappoint!
@CactusJackIV2 жыл бұрын
With a good manager I believe Hakushi could have had a much better run. Keep up the killer work Hawk !
@BainesMkII2 жыл бұрын
I don't think a better manager would have changed anything. Hakushi's character didn't fit the foreign "roles" that the audience might naturally care about (comedy, giant threat, freak, etc), and the WWF didn't give him the support to generate crowd interest.
@zackfrodsham12592 жыл бұрын
Shinja was okay he was a legendary wrestler in Japan and a mentor to hakushi
@SuperPeterok2 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette maybe?
@zackfrodsham12592 жыл бұрын
@@SuperPeterok cornette had bigger clients hakushi would be out shadowed by vader yokozuna
@airfixx_89522 жыл бұрын
@@zackfrodsham1259 Heyman..... He would have knows exactly how to sell him too.
@TwinOpinion2 жыл бұрын
We were always big fans of Hakushi as kids. He had a great look, and a ton of talent. Bret Hart really put him over in his book. Unfortunately, it was the 90's, and he was Japanese. That's the only reason why he wasn't pushed. Same thing happened to Taka Michinoku, who was arguably the best cruiserweight in the world in his heyday. Bret was also a fan.
@insignificantaftermathPROJECTS2 жыл бұрын
I swear Matt and Jeff Hardy are the rare examples of guys who seemed to have been involved in multiple eras and face EVERYONE all over the card.
@SpaceGhost9211 ай бұрын
That cartwheel handspring moonsault was awesome, never seen that done like that before.
@RealAaron3172 жыл бұрын
He was one of my favorites growing up loved the tag match he had in ECW against RVD and Sabu
@FKATorp10 ай бұрын
Don't forget Hayabusa. RIP GOAT
@EmmettXIV2 жыл бұрын
Hakushi, Aldo Montoya, and other superstars around 94-95' reminds me so much of the video game, Mortal Kombat. There was even a video game at the time where it had WWF superstars fighting in a similar Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter like style. They would be able to shoot things out of there hands like hadokens and lightning.
@freakyzed84672 жыл бұрын
Wife works Xmas eve night and kids are grown and on their own. Glad to have you on the eve, Hawk!
@MyNameIsUnavailable2 жыл бұрын
Between this and GilstrapTV , life is good
@bryanturnersvhsrehab2 жыл бұрын
Loved Hakushi, the Bret match was awesome.
@pleaseshutup70532 жыл бұрын
The match was Bret is one of my all time favorites. I remember I got the Bret hart dvd for Christmas because I wanted to watch the Mr. Perfect match I heard was so legendary. But the match with hakushi ended up being my favorite
@colingram87852 жыл бұрын
Hakushi was amazing, way too ahead of his time for WWE/F TV back then. But his moveset and movement/agility was incredible, I enjoyed watching his brief run
@leonarddillon2562 жыл бұрын
I remember marking out for Hakushi when I was five as a New Generation fan. He reminded me of Tasu from the first two TMNT Movies. Then Bradshaw squashed him and since then I always hated him for that. My hatred for JBL is validated since he's been a complete ass throughout his WWE career (His 2004 reign of terror, drunken fight with Blue Meanie, starting the Brawl For All, and doing that "march" in Germany). Little did I know that Hakushi was Jinsei Shinzaki in Japan and when I got access to the internet, it became my first exposure to FWM. Since then FWM become my favorite wrestling promotion. I highly recommend seeing Shinzaki's matches in FMW. Plus his gimmick is awesome. It will always fly over westerner's heads but he's a Zen Budhist monk in Japan. In context, you couldn't get any more baby face than that. He was like the light version of Undertaker which is really cool. Such an underrated wrestler.
@VladamireD2 жыл бұрын
Yep, the writing on his body is actually Buddhist sutras, much like "Hoichi the Earless".
@airfixx_89522 жыл бұрын
Hakushi v Taker could have been so sick if booked properly.
@VladamireD2 жыл бұрын
23:35 "Bobby Wayne" is actually Buddy Wayne, father of indy standout Nick Wayne and the guy who trained AEW's Darby Allin.
@thepolarphantasm23192 жыл бұрын
He also trained my boy Bryan Alvarez 👍
@GregoryWeagle2 жыл бұрын
WWF at the time was dealing was USWA (which explains a lot of the jobbers on this video) and there is a much older wrestler named Buddy Wayne. WWE is notorious for changing names due to lawyer stuff and all that.
@Bale4Bond2 жыл бұрын
Another fine example of Japanese talent being more memorable if put with a gimmick
@MrScott34 Жыл бұрын
The Slapnuts cameo was stupendous
@GregoryWeagle2 жыл бұрын
13:08 - It's not named by the announcers nor you; it's the Flying Space Tiger Drop. I believe that was the move's debut on WWF television. I'm not confident of saying that it's first time on North American television, since John Kornus used it in Smoky Mountain Wrestling.
@Megadebt2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone cares but the writing on Hakushi's face is most likely buddhist prayers. There is an old fable where a blind monk who plays a flute is haunted by the ghost of a wandering Samurai who died in battle. Every night, the ghost would visit the monk to hear him playing his flute. Desperate, the young monk asked a fellow disciple to protect him from the ghost. The monk proceeded to write buddhist prayers on his face and body rendering him invisible to the ghost. Unfortunately, the fellow monk forgot to write prayers on his ears, and the ghost lopped off his ears with his sword.
@dante666jt2 жыл бұрын
An amazing wrestler and equally amazing gimmick
@youngzeus872 жыл бұрын
Loved Hakushi as a kid. He felt like he should've be in WCW with Muta. He would've got more shine too.
@Bryan213812 жыл бұрын
Dippin' dots are ice cream beads from liquid nitrogen. Pretty good & it comes in many ice cream flavors. I might add... you can find them in theaters & malls everywhere. Because it would be hard to keep the frozen beads of ice cream, cold in stores. Here's a fact, they were found out after a scientist was testing horse feed in liquid nitrogen & decided to use ice cream instead.
@SuperPeterok2 жыл бұрын
I've only seen them at the zoo
@joaopires17612 жыл бұрын
"Montoya" is a fierce competitor for the "Least Portuguese Surname Ever" title, but here we are. If there's anything the 90s were strong in, it was the ability not to give a fuck about what's beyond your own borders.
@user-tl4fi6oy8d2 жыл бұрын
The writing on his body that you mock, ironically enough, says, "I don't like half-hawk, half-silver back gorilla hybrid gaijin, and I will definitely hit them with a brick."
@fro-zone2k2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, he makes a good mid-carder if he was apart of the Ruthless Aggression era.
@matthewpulama1062 жыл бұрын
Hakushi was definitely one of my faves. I do wonder how a feud between him and Taker would have went down...
@MyNameIsUnavailable2 жыл бұрын
Awful... They were over 150 lbs apart and over a foot different in height. It would be visually unbelievable
@Hillthugsta2 жыл бұрын
@@MyNameIsUnavailable he was roughly the same size as HBK and his matches with Undertaker looked good.
@dashtoroya2838 Жыл бұрын
They had a match in Japan and it was great
@bink2 жыл бұрын
You seem to have left out Hakushi's match with Barry Horowitz, which was a major turning point in Hakushi turning face and gives context to his feud with the BodyDonnas.
@dimensionhole12 жыл бұрын
Jerry Lawler making fun of anime is what makes it ahead of its time.
@HollandTHG2 жыл бұрын
Hakushi vs 1-2-3 Kid was such a dynamic match. It reminded me a bit of the incredible performances of Ricochet, but a decade or two earlier, and a bit less explosive.
@CactusJackIV2 жыл бұрын
Also had a chat just about this channel in the chat of the Matt Mac Show. It all started with, "A wild slapnutz appeared."
@Trill_4_Life2 жыл бұрын
That first match with Matt Hardy is in the Compaq Center in Houston, TX
@ASwagPecan2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an entertaining video to get me through this drive back from the in-laws on Christmas eve, Hawk.
@damonodell91252 жыл бұрын
Dude you been on a crazy run this winter, great string of videos, salute.
@SubZero5892 жыл бұрын
I remember him from the In Your House PPVs, such a great look. Another great video Marky. Merry Xmas to you and all my fellow subs. Hope you have a great day
@Thebossstage12 жыл бұрын
Ah ah Hakushi! "Bless you"
@jrsmith19982 жыл бұрын
When i was a kid in the early 90’s i used to always do the Hakushi cartwheel flip thing and land an elbow on my brother against the corner of the wall (turnbuckle). Even though he wasn’t pushed, my child eyes still thought he was cool.
@dspsblyuth2 жыл бұрын
That sounds safe
@jrsmith19982 жыл бұрын
@@dspsblyuth I have always been a safe worker. Always.
@dspsblyuth2 жыл бұрын
@@jrsmith1998 are you still wrasslin?
@jrsmith19982 жыл бұрын
@@dspsblyuth yes. so I am
@taofeng7182 жыл бұрын
I really thought we were going to get a “ Aldo Montoya is Justin Credible to watch in the ring” lol
@thepolarphantasm23192 жыл бұрын
Best part of going to ECW shows back in the day was stuff like chanting "ALDOOOO" at the dude during his matches lol
@ScottyDoezntKnow2 жыл бұрын
Hakushi and Pierre Lafite (the current PCO) were two bright spots in that terrible year of 1995.
@airfixx_89522 жыл бұрын
95 could have been so much better with good booking and better gimmicks....... Bret, Owen, Bulldog The Kliq & PJ Taker & Kane Hakushi Lafite Savio Golddust Rikishi Candido Douglas Bigelow Jarret Sid Janetty
@FragItAll2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed Hakushi's run and was expecting/hoping for more. I also had fun watching Horrowitzes little push. (Yeah, spelling is off)
@DeathsNitemareShepardOfHope2 жыл бұрын
My friend and i thought this guy was pretty awesome back in the day, although i completely lost track of him after WWF. Glad to be able to watch this video about him now 😄👍
@SuperPeterok2 жыл бұрын
Why not look up his stuff in Japan now that you're older?
@joeg51552 жыл бұрын
Would love a video on the mean street posse
@NLaBar2 жыл бұрын
1:39 the hawk mentions a line by Bobby Heenan on commentary here. He has to mean jerry lawler, right? Pretty sure that Heenan had left for WCW over a year before this
@NJ9732012 жыл бұрын
It was Shawn Michaels actually After Macho Man left for WCW in 94, Vince once again moved to using guest commentators on Raw until April 95 (same as after Heenan left) and this was during the period when Shawn was co-hosting the show with him for 2 & a half months (December 94 to mid-February 95).
@kevinlee7667 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed his work one of the best to come to the us from Japan . And his matches against hbk and Bret were awesome.
@BreakingNVain2 жыл бұрын
I used to really liked Hakushi as a kid. I still do, but I used to too. He was the 3rd heel that I ever liked in the WWF after The🐐Undertaker & Ludvig Borga.
@fybslygod76912 жыл бұрын
Ludvig Borgia was a racist pos
@BreakingNVain2 жыл бұрын
@@fybslygod7691 Okay
@MyNameIsUnavailable2 жыл бұрын
Ludvig, Top Level Nazi
@NJ9732012 жыл бұрын
The Bret Vs. Japan thing was just a way to restart his feud with Jerry Lawler since Lawler's legal issues was why it ended abruptly back in November 93. If I remember right, it started when Lawler called Bret a racist on a King's Court segment over Bret winning some magazine award and that's how Hakushi and for one night, Bull Nakano got involved. The Japan thing was dropped after King of the Ring I believe and Dentist Kane was being introduced.
@justineckart5492 жыл бұрын
This dude was awesome. I’ve always been a big mark for him.
@GregoryWeagle2 жыл бұрын
9:58 - I wondered where Sting got the idea of giving Hollywood Hogan's severed head as a present on a WCW Nitro. Too bad, we never see Bret Hart's reaction to it.
@trevorolesen53052 жыл бұрын
That clip of Hakushi silently pulling Bret Harts severed head out of a burlap sack is hella underrated. Only place I've seen it since.
@aboynamedchris84122 жыл бұрын
Heel Hakushi pearl harboring his opponent every time is just 95’ in a nutshell
@00ghostcobra2 жыл бұрын
They could have done so much with Hakushi..
@TimTE012 жыл бұрын
123 Kid and Sid would have been a great Tag Team. It’s The 123 Sids!
@MyNameIsUnavailable2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that name would get over in a kids friendly promotion ESPECIALLY WITH THE PARENTS
@toppingclover75612 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite matches on KZbin is Great Muta vs. Hakushi at the Tokyo Dome. An awesome match. Muta changed his name to Kokushi and formed a team with Hakushi.
@YevOnegin Жыл бұрын
Liked for the Road Rash reference alone, I've never seen one on KZbin before
@TheManInTheLongBlackCoat2 жыл бұрын
3:29 The referee is “the man who calls it right down the middle, daddiyo!”
@jayfabe6202 жыл бұрын
His tag team with Hayabusa is one of my all time faves.
@tafua_a Жыл бұрын
"The two top guys from Japan: Ha*cough*i!" "Bless you"
@gjfwang Жыл бұрын
Hakushi is a trailblazer/pioneer as a wrestler that established the future of wrestling.
@DoorDashPro2 жыл бұрын
OMG I just love the way you call Jeff Jarrett slapnuts and when you call Drew McIntyre - McDonald. I can't hold my composure dude you were just too fucking funny and entertaining I love your channel man with the hulk Hogan bird
@sheldondillon2 жыл бұрын
I was a Hakushi fan I thought he was awesome and his matches with Bret and 123 kid were great He deserved better
@LuckyDT2 жыл бұрын
Hakushi’s manager was Sato from Orient Express , fun fact (?). There’s a match with him vs Undertaker you can find on KZbin still IIRC. This is not when he was with WWF actually.
@DrakeKnight992 жыл бұрын
I somehow knew Jarret would show up. He's in so much random shit it's impossible to know if he will or won't
@robertanderson16902 жыл бұрын
And by "random shit" you mean the company he was employed by?
@williammoore61282 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Hawk!!!
@Vercingetorix.Rising2 жыл бұрын
Always thought he was great. Definitely ahead of his time. Great match against Sabu and rvd in ecw 3 years later
@thisguy_w0n2 жыл бұрын
Bless you!
@mrchaotiq4 ай бұрын
I live in New Zealand and wrestling was banned from television for the early part of the New Generation but you could still rent VHS of the pay per views. I remember seeing him for the first time at Summerslam 95 (first time I saw HHH too) and being very impressed with his agility and fluidity in the ring. He had a great look too. I wish they had brought Hayabusa over with him, I know Hayabusa wanted to remain loyal to FMW but they would have been a great addition as a tag team in the WWF at that time.
@kurtpaulsen65792 жыл бұрын
Always loved Hakushi... Enjoyed the character and his ring name so much, I actually play a character on a MUD named Hakushi...
@stevied4792 Жыл бұрын
A will Slapnuts, always makes me smile! 😂🎉😊❤
@TheBorkLaser2 жыл бұрын
Justin Credible (Aldo Montoya) is of portuguese descent? Wow, I was looking at his tights and noticed the little PT flag stamp. Always nice to see the motherland represented! :D
@DeadKoby2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if he was a full blown heel, they could have found more technically sound opponents for him to show off his arsenal. Woltman knew how to work a match with him.
@francosamericanmusings15602 жыл бұрын
Underrated dude!!
@AKcelsior6 ай бұрын
I'm just impressed that someone drew all over him before every match. That must have taken forever.
@mikem104812 жыл бұрын
Hakushi, proud to have him in my Boy's Stable.
@gossamer12342 жыл бұрын
Loved Hakushi matches. Thought he was so cool.
@kaysebain10042 жыл бұрын
That aldo Montoya was just incredible..... 😂 😂
@claytonhuett2122 жыл бұрын
been watching raw from the beginning just got to 96 king of ring. but yes hakushi was really good
@williamhowe12 жыл бұрын
Him and his usual tag team partner Hayabusa was great.
@t2p2 жыл бұрын
Rip Busa my fave 😔
@williamdunn90002 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas markyd
@SNOwyte3 ай бұрын
Jinsei Shinzaki was so lit wherever he wrestled
@LaCourierInCrysis2 жыл бұрын
Man I was so into this guy back in elementary school
@davidepannone60212 жыл бұрын
Merry Xmas hawk
@jaredstivers2 жыл бұрын
This was the era of the Squash matches. WWF/E would starting phasing out the Jobber squash matchs in the mid of 96 I believe.
@mtnman6662 ай бұрын
its wild seeing fonzie stil refing in the fed in 1995 he'd debut in ecw not long after this
@HarmonyEdge2 жыл бұрын
How is Hakushi in terms with WWE nowadays, having read in another comment that he is still active? Any chance for a RR guesting?