Was this wrestler entertaining or insulting?

Okay today I’ve got a Patreon request to cover Chavo Guerrero in WWE. But plot twist it’s his time as Kerwin White. Basically Chavo went through a gimmick change and he was no a white middle class American man. Sounds whacky! He just feuded with Shelton Benjamin for pretty much no reason. Let’s find out if this gimmick is as bad as the narrative over the years has told us!
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[@zeospark9715]

Crazy that Chavo was meant to permeantly keep that gimmick. Then...yeah Eddie's passing and all, even Vince couldn't let Chavo keep a dumb gimmick like that after such a tragedy personal to him

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Which makes it funny dieting the Eddie tribute show he dressed as kerwin white haha

[@jimbo_1312]

Also crazy that Chavo wanted to take the gimmick further and come out dressed in a white sheet with a hood.

[@josephschmizzo1595]

The gimmick was great…

[@SirJoelsuf1]

@@jimbo_1312 Did he really? I never knew that.

[@L_HD]

He actually liked to see white people being angry at this gimmick

[@nu-metalfan2654]

This was fucking hilarious. Chavo as Kerwin White was comedy gold

[@willemdafo2241]

This was probably the best thing Chavo has ever done. Certainly in terms of the most entertaining thing he ever did

[@Noobsaibot21]

I honestly found this gimmick hilarious too. His theme was excellent. But should never have gone higher than Heat with the odd Raw/Smackdown appearance. Can't believe he got on Unforgiven with it.

[@ChaostheClown]

This was a time when Chapelle's show was still in the popular zeitgeist. As fucking whacky as this gimmick is, it reflected pop culture of the time really well. And Chavo, pro as he is, gave it his all. Alternatively I also really liked the Star Dust character despite Cody seeming to not like it. That was when I became a real fan of his, honestly, cuz he took that shit sandwhich and did his all with it and made it something. His run with his brother for the tag belts was really good.

[@septemberlovee]

As a Hispanic I loved this gimmick cause it's so true, there are hella spanish dudes who try being white and reject their own heritage

[@chocolateface4885]

Says a Mexican that says " hella". I'm dead 😂

[@sleazyfellow]

Spanish dudes are white. You ever been to Spain?

[@septemberlovee]

@@sleazyfellow no I'm from central america those Spanish don't count they speak Spanish weirdly

[@donmeyers2631]

Sammy sosa.....even though he was Dominican

[@chocolateface4885]

@@donmeyers2631 slammy Sosa looks scary hahahahah he looks like a Dominican doing white face

[@BANGITSME87]

Cole singing his entrance music is even funnier when you remember this is the music Cole walks out to now. 😂

[@RebelTXWrestling]

I liked this gimmick for its over the top silliness. I even brought a sign at house show that said "I Want to be White Like Kerwin White." Chavo saw it and waved back. I mention it about when I met him in person few years back.

[@pauliewalnuts829]

Kerwin White will always be hilarious to me.

[@cjfrm3658]

Too bad it was on heat

[@willemdafo2241]

This is easily the most retarded yet funny thing Vince ever came up with

[@cjfrm3658]

@@willemdafo2241 I beg to differ it's not worst it's not even top 5

[@paulwoodford1984]

He was different and fun. people are too soft. bunch of pansies

[@freakyzed8467]

@@paulwoodford1984 yup. Too many snowflakes on all sides. People get all bent out of shape when you even ask questions. Question Trump? ENRAGED!

[@fdterritory]

Whatever you think about the gimmick, his theme music was BANGING. Perfect for the character.

[@rasslinempire126]

You are damn right

[@Altern8One]

And then WWE reused this theme in 2012, when they gave it to Michael Cole

[@youtubemember1115]

🎶 I wake up every morning 🎶 snap snap fingers

[@rasslinempire126]

@@youtubemember1115 Can't wait to embrace the day

[@Marveryn]

taijiri was such a legend watching him wrestle was like watching a magician perform

[@rugalb98]

Kerwin White and "Hole in One" Darsow, the golfer team that could've been.

[@standardofexcellence]

And the goon, happy Gilmore character

[@Mr_Leo_DS]

Chavo and Smash, great duo

[@Ayyem93]

I was a kid when this happened and I thought Kerwin was great. Even at 11 or 12 I got the joke. All my friends who liked wrestling at the time also got it and thought it was hilarious. I don't get a lot of this recent stuff of saying certain things were terrible, disgusting etc when lots of these trendy things had practically the opposite view when they happened

[@babylonastronaut]

Yea, I had no idea some people didn't like the kerwin gimmick. It was hilarious.

[@TheSweetestScience]

What are you talking about when tragedy’s happen it usually goes the other way??

[@Ayyem93]

@@TheSweetestScience What are you talking about "tragedies"?

[@benzo9059]

That's kind of you just using yours and your friends experience to speak for everybody though, the gimmick didn't do anything for me either way though I found his segments funny but I remember a couple of forums I posted on at the time absolutely hated it and Power Slam magazine in the UK, which was non kayfabe, panned it too from what I remember. Don't think it's a retrospective thing, it was a pretty tasteless gimmick at a time when WWE was doing a lot of tasteless shit, pretty sure Vince called Cena My N*gga around this exact time too.

[@Ayyem93]

@@benzo9059 He did, which was equally hilarious

[@because_the_internet]

Kerwin White *could* have been interesting. Comes off as a man who has internalised so much negative stereotyping about his ethnicity & culture that he rejects it completely. Long term you'd look to have him reconnect with and fully embrace his cultural heritage. Maybe some funny angles with Eddie trying to 'deprogram' him, 'forcing' him to consume Latino food & media.

[@HWJASURY]

It's interesting seeing how things would transpire post Kerwin White. Chavo would have a few more matches with Shelton on Raw, but by then he was Chavo again and Shelton was a heel so the roles were reversed. One of those matches was when Chavo "retired" after he lost an IC title match. In addition to that, Chavo and Dolph would reunite at one point in 2011 as a tag team of sorts back when Dolph was closely associated with Vickie Guerrero. And I remember they alluded to their past teaming when Chavo was Kerwin White on at least one episode of WWE Superstars.

[@HWJASURY]

Also, his Kerwin White theme was reused as Michael Cole's theme later on.

[@lunaitc]

"What's the whitest song we have?" "Well I'm glad you asked..."

[@joebenson528]

@@lunaitc "You want to be one of the boys then you're getting Kerwin Whites theme" - Vince Probably

[@smoothpoon86]

While play-fighting with my 6 year old nephew I gave him a “Samoan Suplex”. I’m 5’7” and not Samoan, so I apologize.

[@TophDaGreat]

Idk but I marked out to his theme every time 😄

[@asshouse]

Eeeded😢d Greg t and😂

[@christopherballero866]

It would've been interesting if Kerwin White was in the Klan but gets unmasked & gets revealed as Chavo Guerrero

[@willemdafo2241]

Right?! Should've done a segment like the Dave Chappelle sketch about the blind KKK member who doesn't know he's black

[@christopherballero866]

@@willemdafo2241 that sketch was magnificent though I don't have the same confidence in WWE

[@timelink3315]

That actually would have been hilarious, in a dark humor sort of way.

[@standardofexcellence]

I thought this was where they were going with Ken Kennedy and skinhead unmasked kane

[@furkanklc3818]

Rumor has it Kerwin White is still feuding with Shelton in AEW.

[@marcohavokkhaos]

Tajiri is so underrated. Me and my buddies always thought he could have been a big star.

[@thecarolinabull01]

17:04 the only thing missing from that golfing faction was Barry Darsow.

[@LordRaptor]

I remember hating Kerwin White as a kid, now I find the gimmick absolutely hilarious, not every gimmick should have great competitive matches, Kerwin White was supposed to be a little lame, in spite of Chavo being a very talented in-ring athlete, it's weird how in 2005-6 WWE were clearly trying to do SOMETHING with Chavo because he got a lot of heat for both this gimmick and his feud with Rey Mysterio (which was awesome), yet in 2007 they jobbed him out to freaking Hornswoggle...

[@shadic1988]

I mean credit to Chavo for embracing the gimmick. I think this was when Eddie died and this ended out of respect for his uncle. For Character work, this is entertaining. Match wise, meh.

[@rearviewracing4789]

The Golf Club as this faction's name is a pun that is so bad it's good

[@BoRaiChoWins]

Hey at least dolph didn’t start off as the gobbledygooker unlike Chavo’s other uncle Hector. Not to mention being a caddy can’t be too much worse than being a male cheerleader.

[@DolchOfHate]

Kerwin White had more charisma than Chavo could ever dream of.

[@adu1991]

Yeah, but I'm glad that he ended the gimmick after Eddie Guerrero passed away. R.I.P.

[@brad3042]

Chavo was a better heel than face. Still is. Can't stand him. RIP Eddie.

[@carriesanchez418]

I met Chaco on one of the wrestling cruises. He was one of the nicest people I’ve ever met. He took a selfie with me and sat and talked for a few. Thank you for that❤️

[@conradojavier7547]

Do a Ring of the Hawk on Rocky Miavia, & the Ringmaster.

[@demofya]

Shelton Benjamin is seriously an underrated star. He should have been a lot more in the WWE.

[@brad3042]

They brought Thea Vidale in and even she couldn't get him over.

[@andrew8168]

This is the best version of Chavo.

[@b1slee267]

Deep seeing Chris Benoit and chavó breakdown when Eddie passed.

[@Fuggernaut]

Chavo was playing a regular Floridian Latino

[@katelynnsgiraffe6456]

this gimmick was based and hilarious

[@Nathan-ls4xt]

03:50 Kerwin White almost breaks character by momentarily reverting to his Mexican roots by pulling out a coat-hanger and attempting a move known as the "back alley abortion" 😳

[@leonarddillon256]

9:55 Sounds exactly like how stale Dolph's stay in the WWE has been for nearly a decade now

[@Cursed_Mark]

His feud with the Miz in 2016 was pretty good.

[@planescaped]

It's crazy when you realize there are quite a few wrestlers who have been with WWE for over 10 years that have had careers so underwhelming and forgettable that you can't name a single memorable moment or feud they've had.

[@james_the_animator]

Shelton was a genuine future star in 2005. He had a great look, and his moves were so crisp and natural-looking. Why the hell did WWE let him waste away with Kerwin White on Heat?

[@volodymyrbilyk555]

Because reasons

[@BrandanTheBroker]

I get what the gimmick was supposed to be, and trust me, if done right it could have been something. Only problem was it's Chavo, and Chavo isn't a slouch in the ring. It's kinda hard to boo him once the bell rings.

[@thefcw]

It was the perfect lower card character during the Chappelle sketch comedy era of the mid 2000s

[@chrisklark4879]

Hawk my lord... Please do a complete video on Norman Smiley. He was so underrated and one of the most entertaining guys in WCW... I know he wrestled too many matches for Ring of the hawk but at least a video honoring him or something like that my giant bird lord

[@ethanhunt3242]

Yeah I don’t care if people liked this or not I thought Chavo was funny in this role and the theme song was awesome. Hope you get around to Simon Dean at some point he’s my favorite campy, mid-card, wwe heel.

[@troy801]

Yeah I don't care if you thought he was funny in this role or you liked the theme song 🤔

[@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

People who dump on Kerwin or Cryme Tyme seemingly miss how they both have clear, heavy influence from Chapelle's Show, which was huge at this time and had similarly over the top racial caricature humor.

[@mentalphilanthropist35]

The green 'sweater' I think is supposed to be an PGA Masters jacket. Imo pretty funny. Masters champions get to keep the green jacket for a year. Specifically, they get to keep the green jacket away from the club for as long as they're the reigning Masters champion. From the day they win the Masters green jacket, winners can take the green jacket wherever they wish.Apr 10, 2022

[@Th3Broth3r]

It's a parody. It's entertainment. If you get offended you need to reevaluate yourself

[@SuperHyphyOne]

Those same people make jokes and laugh at other ethnicities religions, etc., but get all in their feelings when it's their turns. I always make sure to remind them of their hypocrite ways.

[@troy801]

Ugh, neckbeards

[@TheIkaraCult]

This is one of those things that lands nicely in the So Bad it's Good zone.

[@sockbath1367]

Please do “Berlyn” in WCW

[@kristofkovacs5329]

Nemeth is actually pronounced like Nay-meth it's a Hungarian family name, Ziggler has some Hungarian heritage.

[@889654]

Chavo must have had a blast filming the clips for his entrance video.

[@Thebigbad1013]

I always got a kick out of Kerwin White's theme music.

[@heyyoitsmebrian]

sounds like its supposed to be a frank sinatra knock off

[@arnaldomedina3961]

How about Bret The Hitman Hart's time in WCW?

[@conradojavier7547]

Kerwin is like a Reverse Akeem.

[@kidwaryodproduction]

5:45 He look like Hardcore/Crash Holly with Kurt Angle stare 😆

[@tonykennedy8592]

So Ziggler has been in WWE nearly 20 years?

[@NJ973201]

@19:30 It should be noted that the Raw and Smackdown for that week was taped on the same Sunday in Minneapolis that Eddie passed because they went on a European tour afterwards that included the next week's Raw & Smackdown tapings from Sheffield, England.

[@conradojavier7547]

We need a Dream Match between Kerwin White, & Akeem the African Dream.

[@TheMetalmicah57]

The Ron DeSantis gimmick

[@BlackChapters]

Dolph has to be one of the weirdest former World Champions ever

[@Mr.WhatzitTooya]

How about a ROH with the Mexicools in WWE? According to Cagematch, they had 15 matches not counting house shows and Velocity

[@jamesb1988]

Chavo got beat down by the Mexicools, that's what initiated this change.

[@NyxTheScary]

God Benjamin was a machine back then

[@SirJoelsuf1]

Should have had a transitional World Title reign in late 2004-early 2006 for sure.

[@NyxTheScary]

@@SirJoelsuf1 100% give it to him for about 2 months or so. Have some banger matches. And drop it after.

[@c1dotzsxjigga940]

Can you do a video on Dave Taylor’s wwe run

[@jonbourgoin182]

15:33 I never knew until this video that Val Venis had ever adopted green ring attire which makes me see him as a bald Ken Shamrock. No offense to Ken Shamrock.

[@CasoDoBronx]

What is the signature ROTH background music during the video?

[@markmagician2471]

This was a funny gimmick with Chavo being a white Carlton Banks

[@Stoneman180190]

They let Kerwin go back to being Chavo Guerrero after Eddie died, but didn’t let Stardust go back to Cody Rhodes after Dusty died.

[@theshootinterviewman]

does anyone know the name of the song that plays from 2:08?

[@osoalvarez7649]

Ask and you shall receive. I’ve been waiting on this video for months😂 I’d like to see a tajiri one as well🙏

[@sylviaclarkson2002]

Off topic but if tna had a ruthless aggression era / attitude era which years do you think would it? I'd say ruthless but be 2005 at 07 to 2012 for attitude

[@PulpChristian]

Please do Muhammad Hassan's entire WWE run on Ring Of The Hawk

[@guillaumelevasseur277]

You should review the Mountie from wwf one day, just to see you S him every time he uses his "Shock stick".

[@Haterade420]

I wished it was longer, but due to Eddie’s death, it was cut off immediately.

[@brianboese9884]

It was always weird hearing Coach trying to put him over since they are both heels, while trying to dance around the fact that his catch phrase was "if it's not white it's not right." I bet he hated putting this gimmick over.

[@conradojavier7547]

Dream Match, Cousin vs Cousin: Kerwin White vs Dominick Mys...Guerrero

[@geeshep4836]

Thank The good Lord Mcmahon Dropped This Gimmick Entirely Shortly After Eddie's Death. That's WWE In A Nutshell.What The Hell Was WWE Thinking At The Time?

[@MrThisucks]

I don’t remember this but I remember loving the mexicools as a kid

[@pleaseshutup7053]

They were great loved that gimmick

[@ryanwaslawski6088]

Shelton Benjamin is probably the most underutilized wrestler in wwe history. Cornette said he was the best wrestler out of that ovw class with cena, Batista, Lesnar and Orton. Can’t believe they released him again.

[@THISissockwormadness]

Hilarious gimmick. The entrance alone is a 10/10. fair play to Chavo for putting his all into this gimmick. Should have been more direction, as said, do the character could have reached higher heights. I’ve always found Chavo extremely bland, it’s a shame Eddie passed so soon, would have loved to have seen where this character went.

[@bandu2512]

Every chavo promo mostly is 'my uncle eddie'

[@Thcotwo]

I want to know what happened to the Barood campaign!! I need his style in my life.

[@Markyd123]

Message me on insta if you want some info

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

Was it cringy? Yes. It was suppose to be. I thought it was dumb when I was watching it live younger. Now I can appreciate Chavo going all in on this.

[@Meatball2022]

Always thought Chavo was underrated. As a true pro, he went all in on this garbage gimmick. Respect.

[@TrueNomadSkies]

As a kid, I found it pretty uncomfortable but looking back at stuff it was pretty hilarious.

[@MrGeekFreek]

Can you do one on Eugene? Eric Bischoff's "special" nephew and wrestling savant.

[@cjthehaasman9954]

I think he actually had more than 30 matches on the main show

[@HWJASURY]

@@cjthehaasman9954 he could still do a Was he any good? vid on him

[@cjthehaasman9954]

@@HWJASURY true

[@Markyd123]

We have a Eugene video done. We just based it on his original run with the company. Coming soon.

[@Votedjt2024]

What up bro I really love your show and I really huge biggest fan of you

[@thedrewdog]

I thought it was hilarious, especially since he would do the little wave. But my god, I can't believe Vince was going to trap Chavo in this gimmick for the rest of his tenure.

[@jordandill7863]

question? what is your opinion on if a tall wrestler like Dijak or Big Bill uses a Samoan Drop they're not fat or Samoan but its a guy about 7 ft doing it?

[@Facade953]

I've been looking foward to this.😅

[@dizzy1369]

Awesome, finally covering Kerwin white. This is gonna be funny 😂🤣🤣

[@marcohavokkhaos]

It was a weird time for WWE, and I loved it. You got Super Heroes, white supremacist golfers and my favorite, Look At Me, The Conman Rob Conway

[@TheMrDwillison]

I’m not Hispanic but I am mixed: half black half white. I loved this gimmick because it’s something I’ve seen a million times, not that there’s anything wrong with that. It’s America. But I appreciate what they were trying to parody and I still find the humor in it today even though there is a less than zero percent chance this shit would ever fly today even if it was meant to be ironic.

[@Sky_Blaze]

This was a channel changer for me.

[@ChristianAlbert]

I see WWE’s rematch after rematch era had already begun by 2005. Pretty much why I finally stopped watching around 2014. Only took me a decade!

[@Justin-fb3ms]

You are one of the most unbiased you really evaluate the run despite the wrestler can we get a how good was Eddie Guerrero and Chris benoit's world title runs from 2004

[@CIGARWAR]

I saw Chavo acting on a crime show!

[@tycalvert6011]

“How depressing”😂😂😂

[@theguy1233]

Can you do how bad can it be crown Jewel 2018?

[@gamerbear84]

I think the absurdity of it worked, it was so dumb that it was fun. lol

[@paulsteel9127]

Between feuding with Chavo and the "Momma" gimmick, it's clear they had no real plans for Shelton after 2004.

[@marcohavokkhaos]

Heart Throbs as a face is awesome 😂

[@AwkwardLoser]

Considering the time and the plight of Latin people in America in the early Bush Admin this was actually pretty funny and cathartic.

[@BBoy4040]

Was Mike Wellington Canadian indy wrestler "Beef Wellington?"

[@ricardonb6375]

Next video should be a Was it any Good on either the Misfits in Action or the Filthy Animalz, two factions wrongfully accused of being D-X rip-offs.

[@billa107]

This character was around for longer than I thought, damn.