Marlene Dietrich: Where Have All the Flowers Gone? (Live TV, 1963)

[@Be12397]

This is as relevant in 2022 as it was in 1963. When will we ever learn? When will we ever learn?

[@juliagoncharenko5689]

I was a child when realized that this song is for refugees. And what we have now in 2022!!!! Any lessons from the past.

[@God-9-9-9-9-9]

👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@tatianatkachuk5654]

Oh God, who would have thought that at the moment it will be relevant in 2022, God save Ukraine and all people 🙏

[@КотКотьев]

O4.2022 😥💙💛

[@Rfink75]

@@juliagoncharenko5689 this song is for the dead young men of war

[@TheBatugan77]

Ms Dietrich didn't just sing it, she performed it. And she nailed it brilliantly.

[@benhaslund5153]

she is singing like she is very sorry, furious and about to cry - just fantastic

[@Seagull_J.Livingston]

That's my current feeling too with everything that's happening ........ 😥💔 🥀

[@duchessofwinward2798]

Reminiscint of Casablanca.. .where real survivors of the war sing the French national anthem against the Germans

[@lynnmeyers10]

She was German and left Third Reich. She was bi, I hear. Not sure. but she was very anti Nazi and a mother hen to German and Jewish refugee actors and actresses who came to Hollywood..

[@Ed-vi6tg]

Ms. Dietrich has such passion due to firsthand experiences she lived it,

[@rw8733]

She's magnificent. 😊

[@jimweaver6317]

This woman is one of the bravest women who has ever lived. She entertained the Allied Troops during WW2 and to do so was dropped behind enemy lines, knowing she was on the Nazi hit list as most wanted. Still, she chose to be there. Although she is not a singer, she gives this song such power. You can tell she has seen the horror of war. Bravo!

[@jamesd.8345]

Actually, she was everything you said and a singer too.

[@risegursv5925]

Don,t realise that the allies are the same ones who have been running the wars for more than a century, are the same imperialists.colonialists...and who are presented as the "good guys"? The same (USA-CIA-NATO...) ones who bombed Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the ones who invaded Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Grenada, Falkland Islands, Somalia, Yemen, Yugoslavia... Or is it that do you not possess a shred of associative thinking?.

[@kapple654]

Actually she was spared 'the horror of war' as she was safe in LA since 1931 thanks to Josef Von Sternberg. Edith Piaf ironically saw more action on the ground. Marlene (Edith's best friend and maid of honour at her wedding) did perform 2 miles from the front for the allied troops and raised plenty of money for them - more than any individual woman in USA.

[@Maldoror200]

@jimweaver6317..💀..yes..🥀

[@gunterangel]

Her voice may not have been classically trained, but she had in fact great musical talents. This is proven by the fact, that before starting an acting career she considered to become a professional violonist and even studied the instrument for some years.

[@jamescarpenter275]

What an incredible artist… that voice

[@robertfencl4401]

The golden days of entertainment, people with talent and real class.

[@hollyb7142]

She sung this with such passion, truly expressing the meaning.

[@NormAppleton]

Marlene doesn't fuck around, she never did.

[@frankiebowie6174]

Holly B That’s because she knew firsthand the meaning of the words. She was awarded the Medal of Freedom for her work with the allies. She was frequently disciplined because she insisted on crossing enemy lines to comfort the soldiers. She knew firsthand the tragedy of young men and women throwing their lives away for war.

[@katperson1955]

The passion she sings this with and the pain in her eyes has brought tears to my eyes. She evokes so much when singing this.

[@mobiusklein9140]

Whenever this superb song comes to mind it is ALWAYS Marlene's voice that I hear.

[@BarryWalker-r2b]

Pete Seegers masterpiece performed with passion and feeling by an icon of the 20th century . Theres no one like Marlena today .

[@edvarviana3684]

Marlene Dietrich com certeza uma grande mulher

[@Alarich_Vonbergen]

You are right . . . . and the German lyrics match the target of the songs meaning much bettter as Pete Seegers original . . . . promise

[@liaokang]

Her interpretation of this song best expresses the antiwar spirit. The ascending key-reposition from the third stanza pushes the anger to the climax and then descending to the abyss of sadness. Every note, every blink of eye, every move of her head expresses the meaning of the words to the best of my understanding of the song. A definitive performance.

[@lynnmeyers10]

She used to take in German expats/refugees--Jewish or not, that fled Third Reich in 1930s. She was antiNazi and German. They took over the movie industry in third reich. Some couldn't leave easily but wanted to. That blonde german in Flight of the Phoenix also A Bridge too far was 16 and made to be a Soldier. He always covered his SS uniform in the A Bridge too Far film, it affected him so much, between takes. He almost was just a film actor but Nazis drug him into the war. He ran home from Eastern Front.Hardy Kruger. He passed a few years ago at 78.

[@nicholaross8276]

I totally 100% agree with you. Profound words that articulate perfectly.

[@gunterangel]

@@lynnmeyers10 Completely agree ! Just I little correction: Hardy Krüger didn't die a few years ago, but last year, on January, the 19th, 2022 at the age of 93.

[@jons4418]

Try listening to her singing the German Lyrics, after explaining it in French and English…it’s also available on KZbin.

[@m.s.3515]

NOT "when will THEY ever learn..." but "when will WE ever learn"...

[@nickiehartmusic]

I cannot remember the last time I was so moved by a song! Wonderful emotional performance!

[@grahamadams2021]

So true today.😪

[@stephenandrews8419]

I was in tears. Such an incredibly powerful performance 💙

[@jonfrancois1402]

Class and charisma that money can't buy.

[@OdedAssaf]

Yes, this is relevant ( again? again and again? ) now. And I'm writing this from Tel Aviv, October 2024.

[@Mark-s2v]

I have learned ,but they will never

[@jerzykaniewski5230]

To będzie zawsze istotne !!!

[@johnevans388]

Shalom from England...

[@willslingwood]

Your country is committing genocide, ethnic cleansing and apartheid for 76 years.

[@johnboys4697]

So relivent

[@ronaldburke123]

I'm 82 these make my eyes water😊 Pete Seager brilliant

[@sayaka8587]

Beautiful performance So simple but so powerful A true great Marlene Dietrich.❤😊😇🥰

[@douglaskay9959]

Never heard it sung with such passion.

[@kailangelohe]

Das konnte auch nur die Dietrich. Es so zu singen, ist einzigartig. Es lebe Marlene Dietrich!

[@upthedownescalator630]

So I'm not the only one who noticed that?

[@duaneclough9213]

Long live Marlene

[@НатальяПтаха-ю8г]

Это как нужно любить свою родину, чтоб взять на себя ее вину!

[@God-9-9-9-9-9]

@@НатальяПтаха-ю8г *Она была самой патриотичной немкой. Она и есть Германия.*

[@ributsuria]

Having lived thru 2 world wars and seen thru the US involvement in the Korean and Vietnam Wars. She is 100 times more than qualified than anyone else in presenting her interpretation of this song. RIP Madame

[@Blacky474]

You can't possibly have lived through the first world war, that ended 106 yr's ago, you would have to be 112 at least. No one is that old with the exception of Dolly Parton!

[@kmdionis]

@@Blacky474They were referring to M.D.

[@stephaniesaare2754]

More relevant in 2024...such a classic folk song, and Marlene Dietrich made it hers and Hollywood...classic Hollywood it's a song she loved and was famous enough to karaoke her heart out ❤

[@Belorofontt]

She is obviously touched by this song, impossible not do it with her life experience between two world wars and trying to get up the moral of the american soldiers in the front with her artistry during the WW II.

[@cunobelinusX31]

@@quazwasd4062 American soldiers? What about all the others?

[@JP51ism]

@@cunobelinusX31 MD was highly visible as an enemy of the fascism that devoured her native Germany & did many shows for US troops in WW2. But the waste of Germany's youth in Hitler's mania is what is undoubtedly in her mind, the double tragedy of WW1 & WW2; this song was only written in 1959.

[@kevinhough5018]

Saw her in Adelphi Dublin Live. A wonderful experience. Only watched her in Witness for the Prosecution yesterday. She was a true star. Kevin Hough

[@ignatiussun3325]

She is the generation that lived through two world wars with vivid memories. That anger in her voice is hard to hear in other interpretations. It is spot on.

[@edwardkanterian5113]

We may become another generation living through some world wars. Or just one world war - autocracies vs. liberal democracies, Russia vs. Ukraine/NATO, China vs. Taiwan etc.

[@juliewalker3112]

So powerful.. this is the first time i've heard her singing this.. i'm close to tears.. and yes, When WILL they EVER LEARN???

[@stephenandrews8419]

You just described perfectly how i am feeling right now after watching this

[@m.s.3515]

Not, when will THEY ever learn..... when will WE ever learn

[@kathypiazza7228]

I’m wiping tears to see to type this. A very moving version of this poignant song.

Marlene's magnificent interpretation, in a topic that is still current, due to the continuous wars and the dead they cause and that is that they will never learn !!

[@Strathclydegamer]

I came looking for this a few years ago and return to it often. The first time I saw it was during a Remembrance Day ceremony at my High School. The Rector (head teacher) gave a powerful speech about being global citizens, understanding and accepting one another. After the silence he played this on the projector and asked us to think about the lyrics and her passion and rage. I will never forget that day.

[@sandralarson-gonzales3797]

Being a “global” citizen won’t save us, it will make us all slaves

[@stefanosstavros6519]

A great song and no one can sing it so well and bring out its true sentiment as Marlene

[@DilipSirisena]

Completely true 👍🔥

[@susanneseppo1817]

Beautiful!!!! No one sings like Marlen Dietrich. This is the best version I have ever heard!!!!!!

[@mcervantes362]

I am in love with her! She was so beautiful, even as she aged, and more importantly, she stood firm, never forgetting a friend, a promise, a cause . . . She was so effective against the Nazis that they put a bounty on her. Love, love, love her.

[@douglaskay9959]

The Nazis as you have been indoctrinated to call them were simply taking the property back which had been stolen from them in 1918 but the British hierarchy couldn't have that so they declared war on Germany resulting in milions upon millions of deaths.

[@agenttheater5]

@@kathyharbourne376 Not to mention the number of German citizens who spoke out against the Nazis and lost their lives because of it - the White Rose movement who spoke out not only against the crimes committed by the Nazis but also against the number of German lives lost, the soldiers involved in Operation Valkyrie, and many many others.

[@frankiebowie6174]

Douglas Kay Get the fuck out of here, you creepy Nazi lover. We are here to celebrate Marlene Dietrich, who would have crushed your balls in two seconds flat. “We did it before, and we can do it again.” #every day is punch a Nazi day Take your “conditioning“ and stick it up your Nazi ass. To the rest of you, sorry for my blue language. Nazis bring out the worst in me.

[@grossleg123]

Douglas Kay keep taking your medication you ignorant twat

[@frankiebowie6174]

brian bowes You and Doug are right, and the rest of the civilized world is wrong. Got it. 😝

[@danlib09]

I was not expecting to find this tonight but I'm glad I did, why can't we all live together and help each other?

[@Alarich_Vonbergen]

Why not? . Striving for power.

[@yogijaya2897]

✊🏾

[@tarync6539]

It always moves me tears the emotion she shows

[@АлёнаГармаш-к3б]

Indeed

[@renaysari6631]

She is just as timeless as this song.

[@Learnandgrow-n3o]

I actually felt quite emotional watching this brilliant interpretation of this song. Still so relevent, sadly. Perhaps all world leaders should listen to this song a little more often.

[@cyninshadows7041]

In the seventies, i had the great privilege to be seated 7th row center and spend an evening with Miss Dietrich still wearing...this dress...

[@rainbow2710]

One song, a thousand interpretations, one meaning. Beautiful.

[@wtfisgoingonhere1076]

I LOVE THIS!!! I LOVE that she was an obvious contralto. Being a contralto, it’s so awesome to see our vocal range represented so beautifully and passionately by such an iconic woman!!!!

[@gozerthegozarian9500]

Contralto is amazing!

[@MadredeAgua9]

She is as amazing as Billie Holiday. All of Lady's critics agreed that within the limited scope of her vocal range Billie could wrench every possible emotion out of any song she sang. I think it was Janis Joplin who said that in just two or three notes Billie Holiday told you a story.

[@gunterangel]

She was already 62, when this record was made. Initionally she wasn't a contraalto. Her voice had considerably lowered about the four decades of her career until then. ( She also had been a heavy smoker all her life, that might have contributed too in lowering her voice.) This becomes obvious by comparing this record with her first recorded songs in a sound picture, ' The Blue Angel' from 1929/30. (for instance 'Falling In Love Again')

[@wmpetroff2307]

Sounds right. All three, Marlena, Billie and Janis give off exuberant emotions. @@MadredeAgua9

[@duntalkin]

Wow, just a powerful version. I've never heard it sung with such passion

[@rachelled6763]

Marlene is the consummate performer. Her background in Berlin cabaret and film enhance her passion. She must of felt every word of this sad, sad song, having to leave her home in Germany to escape the madness of the Nazi war machine.

[@sandozpop6017]

I wonder what reaction Marlene had when he found out about the destruction of Dresden and about the Anglo-American crimes of 1944-45 or about Soviet rapes on German women and girls (5-85 years)? He heard about Ilia Ehrenburg, a Soviet Jew who provoked the Red Army to murder and rape in public? Does anyone have any sources on Marlene's feelings?

[@rachelled6763]

@@sandozpop6017 I agree. The atrocities committed against Germany were never answered for. I think Marlene kept her feelings private on this matter. She might have shared her thoughts in her autobiography 'My Life'. Worth looking up.

[@xinvolume]

As a Veteran from 1973, it is sad that children try to understand but, they don't in the end.

[@Nineta444]

Powiedzieć że genialna to jak nic nie powiedzieć

[@strooomon]

So much emotion. what a great song. What a legend.

[@Alarich_Vonbergen]

Experienced two World Wars . . . .

[@nicholaross8276]

This just blows me away. I can't find the words. I simply adore her, and the way she sings and feels this song. It's magical. Outer wordly. It takes me somewhere real, right at the crux of it all. And I feel imense gratitude to this raw human being.

[@karenmccarthy578]

Captivating and noone could sing this song quite like this wonderful lady. RIP Marlene. Thank you.

[@beatawygonik-wronka183]

Wyjątkowy utwór, fantastyczne wykonanie i niepowtarzalna artystka.

[@johnevans388]

The emotion and passion in this performance is eyewatering....

[@valerieslater3029]

Best version EVER !!!!

[@kimmylovesvintage3931]

I love dietrich so much! This was one of the first songs that I heard when my uncle introduced me to her! I have loved her for almost 2 years now! She is amazing! She is my favorite! She is very pretty!

[@upthedownescalator630]

Yeah, I listened to it last year, and I liked it, but now it moves me more for some reason. I've liked her for more than a year now

[@gizellarepas3590]

Ez a dalt csak tőle tudom a szivemmel halgatni, érezni.

[@whp61]

The musical arrangement of this performance is brilliant. Love the way it 'ramps up'.

[@rubybaker2511]

I love her voice so much. I have listened to her sing this so often and it gets me everytime. I swear she sings this with more emotion than any other singer I have ever seen. You can just FEEL the sadness, the passion, the anger.

[@hermanneberle4300]

doitschland - never again !

[@sandozpop6017]

He is tired of English. He could sing directly in Yiddish / Hebrew.

[@marceloaburtto233]

Pure talent and soul

[@davidsedgwick7319]

My favourite rendition of the classic anti war homage to those we lost. Her changing emotions from delight through bemusement, distress, anger, rage and sadness really capture the full meaning of this song.

[@ChicagoAstronomer]

Marlene made me cry...damn.

[@hervebonningue5242]

Respect à cette grande dame ! Classe, humanité et charisme !

[@markbraunstein58]

I have never seen her perform with such conviction, and the song suits her range. Magnificent

[@Charlie-fx9dp]

The best cover of this so famous song... Possible... From France.

[@namparaohara9060]

She's amazing.

[@Emjay1950]

A very beautiful woman singing a beautiful song with such a lovely voice and with such passion and conviction.

[@marycatherine5439]

I have listened to Marlene Dietrich for many years and I always look forward to hear her songs on youtube.. my albumns of Marlene are very old.....although Marlene Dietrich never ages in time....her music is spectacular....life goes on through her voice forever.

[@jonathanhill7031]

Just brilliant and just as relevant today

[@mikaelb7735]

This is a piece of Art!!!

[@simonetti96]

I cannot say anythíng, but... Thank you.

[@Rayeast-uv3uo]

A classic song with true memories...

[@frankfeldman6657]

Impossible to quantify why this is so wonderful, it shouldn't be, yet it is.

[@lenhummel5766]

A deep DEEP cry for sanity.💞🕊💞🎯

[@lenhummel5766]

Totally heart-rending...beginning to end.🤕😣💖 Soooo much TRUTH & PAIN❗

[@jurek46pink]

very good, clear sound !

[@wandaleiva9755]

Maravillosa vean su emocion, que interpretacion fascinante

[@lenhummel5766]

This lady sings this great lyric song...perhaps better and most dramatically & utterly heartfelt than any other. 💎🕊💎💛🕊 heartrending.💖🤕💖

[@ulandjenaliev5212]

Vivat Marlen! Great legend! We remember and love you, blue angel!

[@Glorygood56]

Grace and class and a master class in embodying a song.

[@neilroland3463]

fantastic authenticity. such nuance, emotional connection. the best version ever

[@MaleOrderBride]

History repeats itself... This song is so emotional. All those young lives lost to war. What a waste...

[@philipwilliams2310]

...... SO True Fernando - & one can't but help wonder; are we a 'flawed Species' as Carl Young described ..... with a 'sell - by' date? We THINK, We are Important - but that's Ego? Good Comment. Phil Liverpool UK 🇬🇧 👍

[@jimallen2902]

Class song sung by a wonderful person ❤

[@danielmunguia7486]

What a wonderful song from a wonderful lady rest in peace

[@PaleoCon2008]

This performance was 10 November 1963. She was about 62 years old at that time. She seemed to perform this song frequently in the early to mid-1960s. November 1963 would be a sad month for many people but that event happened well after this performance.

[@rockyracoon3233]

I believe the Beatles performed on this same show.

[@sjefhendrickx2257]

One should listen to the Germen version! Chilling!!

[@upthedownescalator630]

2:21 actually sounds like she's crying. I think she kind of was. I love this video! I have a Dear America series book called Where Have All the Flowers Gone, about the Vietnam War

[@upthedownescalator630]

@brian bowes You sure she really was though?

[@upthedownescalator630]

@brian bowes Maybe, in a composed way, she is. So sad, but everyone says that, isn't there anything new?

[@upthedownescalator630]

@brian bowes Lol

[@Belorofontt]

I suspect she revived her memories about WW II, when she entertained to the US soldiers, some of them fallen in combat. Surely she brought back those memories and get emotioned by them.

[@upthedownescalator630]

@@Belorofontt I'd believe that

[@carol942]

I saw her in Sydney on her last performance . I cried when she sang this 😩😩

[@claudiofavero3718]

Mitica interpretazione Marlene. La diva. E una canzone da non dimenticare.

[@bandini22221]

What a legend you were, Marlene!

[@AnthonyDeanChannel]

I don't normally listen to songs like this.. my dad plays this song all the time he listens to pete seegers version.. I accidentally click on this one.. to be fare I like this version better... she has a very unique voice.. deep, perfect :)

[@MildredMcKiddy]

listening to this for memorial day. This also happens to be my mommas favorite version. Marlene Dietrich has a beautiful voice.

[@Rudipolt]

Thanks Marlene Aloha from Hawaii

[@gianlucaguidotti5705]

Marlene Dietrich, magnifica attrice, cantante, una grande DIVA!!!!

[@kajkajuma5243]

Wielka Marlena !!!

[@r1p2m32]

Touching, now as much as ever. Hats off!

[@carolynzaremba5469]

Brilliant performance.

[@ArthurValencia9438]

Beautiful rendition!

[@feliceagrati6533]

Interpretazione magica,commovente,con una grandissima Diva indimenticabile.

[@patriciaberthelot4616]

RlP Mom, this song ,may it not upset you any further.

[@buckfi1109]

Sadly actual then ever 😢

[@gustavopanesso7297]

She sings this song with so much passion, sentiment ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@rw8733]

Her charisma is incredible 😍

[@gravitygrabber9890]

Out-flippin'-standing! This was buried in among a string of links to 1960s folk singers. Because Marlene's camp cabaret turns in films such as Morocco and Stage Fright were all I knew of her as a singer, I got curious about what she'd do with a Pete Seeger song. And boy am I glad I did because this knocked me sideways and made me well up a fair bit too. Not really a natural singing voice, but who cares! What we've got here is a highly talented woman skilfully kicking the hell out of a great song and turning in as moving a performance as you're ever likely to see. Some of Marlene's Hollywood songs seem almost too effortless, like she could knock them out in her sleep. In contrast, this is carefully crafted and digging deep: to paraphrase the Sex Pistols, 'she means it, maaaan!' As for the wider picture, in the corridors of power this clip should be played on a loop with the lyrics painted large on the corridor walls.

[@johnboys4697]

She lived thru WWll I think this is why she has such passion with this song

[@BIGMOUTHLOUIS]

she was so grand,and great.

[@KarenHackman-x9z]

My grandfather went to WWII to protect his family members and he was killed by a German bomb 30 September 1944 this song makes me cry 😢 😭 ❤

[@Ms2blackcats]

so sorry

[@paulrumbold2436]

Your comment has made me burst into tears . I’m 58 . I miss my grandad soooooo much . He taught me everything . I miss him every minute of my life . My grandad loved this singer . He spoke of her fondly . Never knew she was German ? I hate this world

[@Ms2blackcats]

So very sorry. That war took my father. He died soon after I was born. I miss him everyday almost.

[@Ms2blackcats]

@@paulrumbold2436 Please don't hate the world.

[@xx.danivibe.xx12]

Die Welt könnte so schön sein....

[@rockinbillyboy]

Quite brilliant.

[@dragojovanovic3557]

where have all the flowers gone? lol SHE WAS THE BEST! LOVE HER!

[@けぃ-r9m]

Thanks.

[@craigboi1970]

That was beautiful ❤️

[@marisamiller9836]

Grande música! Grande mulher

[@valeriegl8163]

2022, Ukraine... Asking myself the same question as Marlene after WWII: When will they ever learn?..... Probably never... People will keep repeating the same horrible mistakes over and over, and flowers will keep growing on their graves

[@kundyzbaigonyssova5075]

Peace and victory to Ukraine! God bless you, dear Ukrainians!

[@natalykurenevskaya7911]

@@kundyzbaigonyssova5075 Thanks It's very important for us.

[@Crokey]

@@kundyzbaigonyssova5075 The Kiev regime is not interested in peace as clearly demonstrated by their refusal to implement the Minsk agreement, which Merkel has said was a way to buy time for NATO to train Kiev's forces, and the eight years of war on the ethnic Russian and Russian speakers killing over 10,000 and their refusal to negotiate. I feel sorry for all those caught in the middle of this war but you miss the point of this song, no one wins in war expect the rich who do not fight. Negotiations would have stopped this war from starting and are the only way to end it, otherwise it will be a Russian victory... but seems they're fighting Nazis that is probably best. I blame Biden.

[@kundyzbaigonyssova5075]

Your words would have any weight if yours was a country attacked and bombed by Russians every day since February, if you were at the risk of losing your family and your life in this war started by Putin. You're nothing but a totally pathetic and ignorant fool.

[@Crokey]

​@@kundyzbaigonyssova5075 If this comment is for me than I'm Irish and my country had been occupied by Britain for eight centuries and one of our "four green fields" is still occupied by Britain. My sympathies would be with the Kiev regime if I was a "pathetic ignorant fool" as any country that is attacked by a larger neighbor really hit's close to home for me and every Irish person worth their salt. Thankfully I'm not so ignorant and was well aware of the Kiev regimes Nazi infestation from 2014 after seeing several BBC news piece about it, here's a couple of old BBC reports on Nazis in Ukraine as you probably don't believe me: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnnLeHifrKh7kKc kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4SloGOXoMp3g7s I followed the situation closely ever since as my Grandfather fought in the British army in WW2 so I had an interest. Over eight thousand dead civilians before Feb. 24, this year, on the Donbass side and over four thousand dead Donbass civilians since Feb. 24 Why don't you Google the OSCE, western, monitors records from the Donbass, they show in the weeks before Russia's SMO the Kiev regimes Minsk treaty violation had increased from approx. 50 per day to 2500 per day. Merkel has recently said the Minsk treaty was a way to buy time for NATO to train and arm the Kiev regimes forces: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5y8ea2dZc-SbtE&pp=wgIGCgQQAhgB Yes I support Russia as the Nazis were killing ethnic Russian and I see this conflict as Russia trying to end the killing after exhausting all diplomatic options but my choice is a negotiated end to the fighting and has been from the outset. I know it's hard to admit to yourself that you have been duped into carrying water for Nazis but in the words for the late great Malcom X "It's easier to fool a man then to convince him he has been fooled."