Marlene is a Cetra? | FINAL FANTASY VII / ADVENT CHILDREN STORY THEORY

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Final Fantasy Peasant

Final Fantasy Peasant

6 жыл бұрын

With the remake going even deeper into the dev abyss, allow Peasant to tide you over with another Final Fantasy VII AND Advent Children story theory. Rare have I included the AC movie so heavily into a video but today we are going to answer the bizzare question. Is Marlene Wallace a Cetra? Totally ridiculous on face value but give the video a chance and it might just open up your eyes on everything from: Aerith (or Aeris heathens) role in the FFVII compilation. Jenova & Sephiroth. The ending of both movie on the game. Possible new FFVIIR story avenues. The meaning behind the ending cinematic & cool symbolic references being used in infamous scenes like the Tifa Vs Loz fight.
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@manicmuffin
@manicmuffin 5 жыл бұрын
It's hereditary, but I think Marlene got it from Dyne. When confronted in the Corel Prison, Dyne states he was able to hear his dead wife from the Lifestream, which is apparently only a Cetra skill (Aeris describes hearing the voice of her mother from the Lifestream when she was a child). It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Aeris to be the last Cetra ever, just the last Cetra that ShinRa knows about. Remember, ShinRa isn't exactly an expert when it comes to Ancients; they thought Jenova was one at first, and it's possible Ifalna was willing to let them believe it if it meant protecting the last of her people. Unless Ifalna was super inbred, or her parents, grandparents, great-grand parents (etc.) all only had exactly one child each, there are probably multiple branches in the family tree in just Aeris' extended family. I think the Cetra are a dying race for sure, but their bloodlines are probably also scattered and thinning around among the population through cross-breeding, too. Even if Dyne is only part-Cetra (like Aeris), maybe even a cousin of Aeris, he would still have some of the same abilities, and Marlene, too.
@lunarisu8010
@lunarisu8010 3 жыл бұрын
So you mean Cloud is a cetra too? Cloud was able to speak to the planet.
@manicmuffin
@manicmuffin 3 жыл бұрын
​@@lunarisu8010 That's another popular theory, since we don't know anything about Cloud's dad or what happened to him, and he could have been a Cetra hunted down by ShinRa or he disappeared to protect his family. Others suggest it's because Cloud had been mako-poisoned (twice), and had been through the Lifestream (twice), which brought him closer to the Planet. Maybe the Remake will address this in the future installments. It would be a cool reveal!
@lunarisu8010
@lunarisu8010 3 жыл бұрын
@@manicmuffin You got me thinking and yeah that's what I'm thinking also. Not only he can speak to the planet he can speak to Aerith too. In the remake, Aerith told Elmyra that she is speaking to her husband who returns to the planet.
@chapachuu
@chapachuu 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know about their orgininal intentions, but Remake's Marlene is Cetra. They were laying it on pretty thick. If she isn't, I'd be shocked. Like, when she hears/senses Barret at the end (through the flower) and how she talks about people "returning to the planet" like little Aerith did. And that scene where she senses something from Aerith a Aerith tells he to keep it a secret and, later, when Marlene is about to tell Barret something about Aerith but stops herself. I think in those two sense Marlene sensed a familiarity in Aerith and vise versa, which is why Aerith told Marlene to not say anything (she wants people to keep believe she's the last Cetra to protect Marlene). It would also explain why Marlene emulates Aerith after that. Also, I believe what Marlene was about to tell Barret is "That girl, she's...like me" which is followed by her telling Barret to go save Aerith. No doubt, Marlene shares a kinship with Aerith and has always seemed in tune with the Planet. My only question is whether SE will make Marlene being a Cetra explicit.
@necromancer584
@necromancer584 4 жыл бұрын
Going to confirm this because in ff7 remake she has this weird connection to Aerith when she meets her. They have this psychic mental moment together that they don't let the viewer in on.
@vixiestarfire
@vixiestarfire 4 жыл бұрын
necromancer584 how do you know this if the viewer wasn’t told about it?
@jacobturner8965
@jacobturner8965 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao what a stupid statement 😂 I can confirm because of this scene that happens in the game... That doesn't happen in the game.....
@necromancer584
@necromancer584 3 жыл бұрын
@@vixiestarfire I mean to say that you can tell something is happening between the two of them but it isn't disclosed as to what. There's definitely some kind of bond. Yall are a tough crowd
@hannahevertson8306
@hannahevertson8306 Ай бұрын
​@jacobturner8965 Oh, something happened there. In Remake anyway, I don't think we saw Aerith reach Marlene in the original. There's also a somewhat creepy scene in Rebirth where Marline tells the other universe Zack about Aerith's death. Now I don't know about this theory and I don't know about all of these arguments but they are doing something with her, in the new version at least. And when I say I'm unsure of the arguments for this theory I mean very unsure, but it's one of the possibilities being pointed to.
@anthonygak7094
@anthonygak7094 4 жыл бұрын
After playing FF7 Remake, I came up with a similar theory - and found this video after googling it... In Ch.3 Marlene asks if the people from the Sector 8 reactor explosion "went back to the planet", which is exactly what Aerith used to say as a child to Elmyra when someone died. Later on in Ch.12, in the train graveyard, Aerith gets a vision of Marlene for some unexplained reason - perhaps indicating that they have a link that only Cetra share. Ch.13 shows the strange connection Marlene has with Aerith as they touch. In the Epilogue, Marlene is seen getting a sort of message about her father from one of Aerith's flowers. Crazy to think you came up with this theory so long ago - props to you mate!!
@thfreakinacage
@thfreakinacage Жыл бұрын
That "connection" scene brought me back to this video. The way Marlene's character changes in that moment. Aerith definitely did something significant! I cannot wait to see how that gets expanded on in future episodes of the remake.
@KimberlyArcherandJustinPhan
@KimberlyArcherandJustinPhan 4 жыл бұрын
Spoiler from REmake: Hmm, when Aerith come to rescue Marlene, which, was offscreen in original game. we will see this theory maybe finally confirmed
@jamiewilliams8919
@jamiewilliams8919 4 жыл бұрын
You wait, shes special. I think that little girl on the bottom of Aerith's mural in her old room at Shinra HQ is Marlene.
@Fyrecide
@Fyrecide 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteHawk77 EXACTLY.
@jonp1952
@jonp1952 6 жыл бұрын
The one thing I always wondered about FF7's ending is "How did Red XIII have kids?"
@jonp1952
@jonp1952 6 жыл бұрын
Red XIII was the only one left of his species. That's why Hojo wanted him to try to reproduce with Aeris(making him male) to create some weird monster. I can't imagine Red XIII having children that look exactly like his species. Or at all really.
@simplysolus8916
@simplysolus8916 6 жыл бұрын
+Jon P He was compatible with other species... All he needs is some sort of wolf like partner.
@mako7518
@mako7518 6 жыл бұрын
There's actually a female version of Red XIII's species that appears in Before Crisis. It's implied that he found her and they settled down and had kids.
@Jacob.DTorres
@Jacob.DTorres 6 жыл бұрын
Victoria 92179 NICE!! not a lot of people know that
@JoasXCloud
@JoasXCloud 6 жыл бұрын
Easy, with Aerith
@shadowroses5
@shadowroses5 4 жыл бұрын
You need to redo this as there are more points in the remake to support this, very good call
@skidmc
@skidmc 4 жыл бұрын
i feel that's key to understanding zack flashback and that whole stake of changing the Red's vision ending. Cause the first place where flowers grow around midgard at the end of AC, is zack grave. Are we rerunning for a faster AC happy ending? that allows avoiding AC events? cause at least the end must change.
@lafranhudo
@lafranhudo 4 жыл бұрын
@@skidmc I think that maybe we can all be wrong, the game will drastically change and in the end, the world will be destroyed and all this was a vision of Aerith seeing that the future cannot be changed has a good theory from a Japanese that says the ff7 takes place in the same world as the ff10
@letters7746
@letters7746 3 жыл бұрын
I literally just caught on to this just now I replayed the game and I didn't catch on when the screen glitched when she touched her
@nikkilengyel
@nikkilengyel 4 жыл бұрын
Spoilers from the remake: We don't see Marlene holding on to the white materia BUT when Aerith hugs her, there seems to be a connection or it seems as though Marlene has a spiritual "download" of sorts from Aerith. AND regarding Aerith and children: She's adored by the kids of Sector 5, and helps out at the local orphanage.
@jonathannwy
@jonathannwy 4 жыл бұрын
The cutscene between Marlene and aerith. Marlene slightly brushes on Aerith hair ribbon when coming off the hug is the exact moment the scene flashes and something there happened.
@Nero_PR
@Nero_PR 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathannwy Marlene might have an even greater connection with the Planet than Aerith has! This would be nuts.
@darenh355
@darenh355 6 жыл бұрын
little girl : It's like she said," Wait here and Cloud will come back." Me : sitting on the couch crying like a bitch
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 3 жыл бұрын
You can see it in Advent Children too. When Cloud is fighting Sephiroth, Marlene seems to get a vision from Aerith, which prompted her to say “is it her?” Also, in the beginning, Marlene seemed to have a greater insight to the Planet and Lifestream than most, even if her dad told her things about it.
@Milandilio
@Milandilio 4 жыл бұрын
Only seeing this now, after playing the remake and suspecting some Cetra-ness in Marlene, or at least a strong connection between her and Aerith. Very interesting to think about.
@suadela87
@suadela87 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even realize people thought the Cetra were aliens. I mean, the translation was bad, but doesn’t Ifalna go more in depth of what Cetra are and even Sephiroth talks about how humans separated themselves from Cetra by settling down and taking the easy way. I pretty much just thought Cetra was more of a lifestyle and culture than a separate species. In that sense, anyone who follows the way of the Cetra has the potential to become one.
@mmoarchives2542
@mmoarchives2542 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, maybe aussies or brits were confused, but it was very clear to me that the centra were native humans with special powers and jenova was an alien bacteria that came from a meteor strike, but what i always wonders is whether magic meteor was used once already, where the centra used an unknown materia that strike disaster against the planet by accident and stored away the black materia at the temple of the ancients, Ilfana described in the tapes as if the centra was some kind of cult that experimented with various types of materia that got out of hand, from what she says, when jenova arrived, jenova nearly wiped the centra completely out
@chocobox200x7
@chocobox200x7 6 жыл бұрын
Marlene knew where the geostigma was after watching Vincent grasp clouds arm and his reaction to it showing pain well at least that's what I think
@kulbeins5571
@kulbeins5571 6 жыл бұрын
"You're the slum drunk" LOL😂
@MissFarewells
@MissFarewells 6 жыл бұрын
The idea of the Humans once again becoming what once made them Centra just made the whole VII experience a whole New level of symbolic. I'm sticking with the theory, makes the game and movie an even better feelstrip.
@greenliongirl07
@greenliongirl07 6 жыл бұрын
Miss Abaxelis I kind of figured that there were others, but their blood was watered down to the point most don't have any of abilities of the Centra unless there is a need for them.
@colleennewholy9026
@colleennewholy9026 6 жыл бұрын
greenliongirl07 Well, yeah. Genetically, you're going to have some others with Cetra blood...
@lapre
@lapre 4 жыл бұрын
Who is watching this video after watching peasant reacting to Marlene/Aerith interaction in FF7 remake?
@danielcurtis6956
@danielcurtis6956 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a long time watcher of your video's, my favourite theory yet. I'm sitting in my truck with tears in my eyes. Good job mate
@andrewrenshaw2741
@andrewrenshaw2741 6 жыл бұрын
Marlene is to Aerith as Cloud is to Zack.
@RadicalDreamer17
@RadicalDreamer17 6 жыл бұрын
Yep... and Cloud is to Denzel what Zack was to Cloud. Heroic figures to look up to.
@FFVIIFAN
@FFVIIFAN 6 жыл бұрын
whaaaaat? haha... no. that's a terrible comparison. almost comical, actually.
@user-lg6qg2cf6x
@user-lg6qg2cf6x 4 жыл бұрын
A living legacy.
@skidmc
@skidmc 4 жыл бұрын
​@@FFVIIFAN i find it basicaly awkward
@lightningH8
@lightningH8 6 жыл бұрын
I've come up with a new theo-ry
@BlaxxShadow
@BlaxxShadow 6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to try it.
@rhaenyrareigns2200
@rhaenyrareigns2200 6 жыл бұрын
@lightning H8 This should be a t-shirt.
@mochaaura-discontinued4145
@mochaaura-discontinued4145 4 жыл бұрын
Classic Iggy line lol Even Noct make fun of his line in his best Ignis voice
@mako7518
@mako7518 6 жыл бұрын
This is what I love about FFVII. Every time I play it, I learn something new. This video mentioned things that I never even considered, but when I think back on it I'm like "huh, that's true." It makes a lot of sense to me now that Marlene would be Aerith's legacy.
@Masamune7610
@Masamune7610 6 жыл бұрын
"I'm not crying!" Damn onion cutting ninjas ^^ I have to say, this theory is just on point and I wish I wouldn't have to get all material related to 7 in the world to get it. This is why I join you in hoping this do get included in the remake ;)
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical 6 жыл бұрын
Two thoughts: 1) Didn't FFX-2 imply (at least a little) that Shinra (the kid genius) talks about rocket ships and using the Farplane as a source of energy, implying that his descendants might have traveled to FF7s planet and become the Shinra family/civilization (not sure what whis would say about the Cetra or Cetra/Human connection, mind you...) 2) Marline being Areith's "living legacy" makes sense. It was said in Crisis Core that Zach was Angeal's legacy, as well as Sephiroth's (due to the Mako enfusion he and Cloud underwent), and Cloud, in turn, became Zach's. However, in the case of Aerith and Sephiroth, Sephy did what a villain would - make partial clones of himself to attempt to use for reincarnation. It would make sense that Aerith would take a more "natural" approach, grooming and nurturing Marline as her legacy while gracefully remaining in the Lifestream herself. It seems like the "good guy" method of doing it, especially when the person in question is the archetype "healer girl" figure. Aerith's approach being to nurture a living person who she had a connection to rather than make clones and try to reincarnate by force - not something a nature goddess archetype would do - actually makes a heck of a lot of sense. In this way, Marline, like Cloud and Zach, is a "living legacy", not an attempt at reincarnation or living on in person. Kind of like having a child (Aerith) instead of seeking immortality selfishly (Sephiroth). The figurative dichotomy writes itself.
@loftyshouseofflyingdaggers4035
@loftyshouseofflyingdaggers4035 Жыл бұрын
That's one of the best FF theory vids I've seen in a long time. I had asked this question about Marlene with a friend, but not as in depth as your video. Well done, mate ✌
@bontacowans
@bontacowans 6 жыл бұрын
The way you explore is amazing. Great theory. Keep up the great work man!
@shiryuyamamouto9141
@shiryuyamamouto9141 6 жыл бұрын
you just made me think of this story in a new light, it's more touching then I ever would have thought.
@Boltmaiden
@Boltmaiden 5 жыл бұрын
This was great. Ugh I love Aerith’s character so much. And that end scene. 😭❤️
@prestonu-ie1823
@prestonu-ie1823 5 жыл бұрын
Reno told the soldiers don’t step on the flowers
@MrIcingdeath22
@MrIcingdeath22 6 жыл бұрын
My heart! It cannot take this genius theorist! Best theory vid Ive seen in a while.
@threetoadsloth
@threetoadsloth 6 жыл бұрын
I've missed me some peasant theory videos, but I really like this one, its probably one of the best ones I've watched yet. Keep up the good work sir, always enjoyable to watch your theory videos
@Dukefazon
@Dukefazon 6 жыл бұрын
Who says "kupo!" along with Pez after he says "Until the next video..."?
@bahamut9384
@bahamut9384 6 жыл бұрын
Dukefazon KUPO!
@AMaidenlessRunt
@AMaidenlessRunt 3 жыл бұрын
@@bahamut9384 kupo deez nuts
@silentsorrowbane
@silentsorrowbane 6 жыл бұрын
"Thanks" to depression, I have a hard time feeling anything. But fuck..the sight of Aerith companied by the Final Fantasy VII music always makes me feel so much sorrow, it's unbearable.. (which is the reason I just can't play my favouirte game of all time anymore) Great theory Pez, keep up the good work!
@tritonecrisantemo649
@tritonecrisantemo649 6 жыл бұрын
Loved it. The philosophical aspects are brilliantly presented. Thnx for a great and intriguing vid.
@FFVIIFAN
@FFVIIFAN 6 жыл бұрын
it's totally false though... I've played the games several times and watched the movie countless times. a lot of the info this guy claims is just made-up for the purpose of the theory, and really none of it holds any substance. Aerith was the last Cetra, for sure... This is nothing but a theory for people without total familiarity of the story.
@lolgurl141
@lolgurl141 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! This made me appreciate Advent Children SO MUCH MORE! Thanks 🙏🏼
@tifleigh2654
@tifleigh2654 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video. I love have you've given a deeper meaning to our girl Marlene. I honestly can't knock anything you've said. I've always felt that Marlene and Aeris have had a deeper understanding of one one another and this just sums it up perfectly. Thanks Pez x
@otakubacklog
@otakubacklog 6 жыл бұрын
I’m going to have to watch this a few more times to get the most out this as I can, but damn... this makes me appreciate FFVII and Advent Children a lot more. I really enjoyed my time with FFVII, but the fact that Advent Children did way more to add to the lore of the game than what I imagine most people thought is incredibly satisfying. Great video, Pez!! Also, the fact that details like that behind the Cetra’s background was a freaking translation issue is aggravating lol. Well, good to know now before the remake, where people would start complaining about how Squenix changed the lore.. though they probably will change some of it
@mikedixon8622
@mikedixon8622 6 жыл бұрын
Always Love your theory videos. They are always well thought out.
@SolidBoss19
@SolidBoss19 6 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, struck me in the heart!
@kelleyrobb7741
@kelleyrobb7741 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! I love this! You put so much thought into this analysis. I never consciously put together all those pieces, but I must have subconsciously been seeing her connection with Aerith, too. I wrote a fanfic where Marlene inherits abilities from Aerith. And of course she's obviously mature beyond her years. Gotta say this -- I love all your videos! Keep on keepin' on!
@destiny923
@destiny923 2 жыл бұрын
Can you post the link? I've been trying to get stories like that but with little luck.
@aznp33nRocket
@aznp33nRocket 6 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced.. we'll done good sir!
@FFVIIFAN
@FFVIIFAN 6 жыл бұрын
it's totally false though... I've played the games several times and watched the movie countless times. a lot of the info this guy claims is just made-up for the purpose of the theory, and really none of it holds any substance. Aerith was the last Cetra, for sure... This is nothing but a theory for people without total familiarity of the story.
@ColeFam
@ColeFam 6 жыл бұрын
I came into this not expecting much, but I really loved it. Great work!
@msmoon6011
@msmoon6011 6 жыл бұрын
Two words....MIND BLOWN!! I've played this game since it's release back in the day and even I didn't make that connection. Great work Pez! FFVII has to have one of the best JRPG story lines I've witnessed.
@juanmanuelesis9797
@juanmanuelesis9797 6 жыл бұрын
I miss this kind of video, really good job. The ending is just perfect
@shahamut5009
@shahamut5009 6 жыл бұрын
This... was FREAKING BRILLIANT! Well done good sir!
@NateIsCorrupt
@NateIsCorrupt Жыл бұрын
Marlene’s a great character and has some interesting character building to boot. Her emulating herself after Aerith makes sense as she clearly loves Tifa but may see more of the person she wants to be in Aerith.
@TheManStarr
@TheManStarr 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, good job! I think we tend to over think these games and over reach, beyond what the creators intended, but this theory just fits so good. I love it.
@themokona8690
@themokona8690 6 жыл бұрын
God damn Pez you always surprise me with your theories! I hope this channel grows even bigger !! 💙
@SpringStargazer
@SpringStargazer 6 жыл бұрын
I just love in depth fan theories. I just bought this game for the first time yesterday (late, I know) and I can't wait to start playing. Thanks for the video!
@krissyscott871
@krissyscott871 6 жыл бұрын
OMG! I love this! This makes so much sense!
@Tekirai
@Tekirai 2 жыл бұрын
I believe she was because almost ALL the kids in and outside of edge were affected with geostigma yet Marlene remained unaffected and could sense aerith by just hearing a drop ‘is it her?’
@Leeon_King
@Leeon_King 6 жыл бұрын
Very well done. I love the way that your mind expands the FF7 universe.
@forfreedom2494
@forfreedom2494 6 жыл бұрын
My perspective change when i watch this video about ff7 all together. Damn! Keep it up!
@WinterRabbit1
@WinterRabbit1 3 жыл бұрын
I had always seen how Marlene was similar to Aireth but it had never occurred to me to think about it this way
@longsentertainment4818
@longsentertainment4818 6 жыл бұрын
This was the best video I seen in a while.
@elisharodriguez6160
@elisharodriguez6160 6 жыл бұрын
HOLY COW! YAS, I always pointed out how strange it was that she sensed Aerith and argued with my friends about how she's overly sensitive to the lifestream due to her connection with the planet! Great video
@kylasim189
@kylasim189 6 жыл бұрын
(as Angela, my daughter and i share this account) I have to say thank you! This THEORY has become real in the story that I have FINALLY begun to write! The plot line has been stuck in my head for about a year now and my BFF convinced me to start writing it down and while researching so that i can stay as true to the already established story lines this concept has given realism to what i am writing. Don't know where it will end up with it in the end but well I too have Dreams (blushes) so once again thank-you !
@lolgurl141
@lolgurl141 4 жыл бұрын
Kyla Sim link to the fanfiction???
@yoanribeiro
@yoanribeiro 6 жыл бұрын
Damn'it Pez, you got me crying at the end! Solid reasoning btw ^^
@martineh5341
@martineh5341 6 жыл бұрын
Tears streaming down my face 😢💖
@kadlin9778
@kadlin9778 6 жыл бұрын
Wow... great video. Thank you!
@Dukefazon
@Dukefazon 6 жыл бұрын
LOL at the end "I'm not crying!" :D
@BobStrife7
@BobStrife7 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not going lie, I thought at first this was a strange, slightly 'clickbait' concept, but damn....I think you're actually onto something here Pez. The links to Advent Children make so much sense with this theory as well. I hope they expand on this idea!
@liamvogel4931
@liamvogel4931 6 жыл бұрын
When I heard you suggest this during the last stream, I thought you were just being a crazy theory goblin again, but I gotta say........ you make a pretty convincing argument. It certainly makes "sense"
@strugglechamp2006
@strugglechamp2006 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful. I loved it. It actually brought a few tears to my eyes with that ending. ♡
@OwtDaftUK
@OwtDaftUK 6 жыл бұрын
Great theory, though one thing i'd say is that. I wouldn't put too much thought into the colour of materia in AC since they used light blue materia to summon in the film not red.
@hopelCie
@hopelCie 6 жыл бұрын
You made me cry... but I was feeling so calm and I realized something: I always watched advent children in japanese and without sub and the scene that Marlene feels Aerith or have some glimpse of her, I only watched it here. Now I'm even more sentimental because of it
@bluepotato1354
@bluepotato1354 3 жыл бұрын
So I'm convinced (Also congrats you made me tear up)
@erinw.9256
@erinw.9256 6 жыл бұрын
THIS THEORY HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED FF7 FOR ME. THANK YOU.
@FFVIIFAN
@FFVIIFAN 6 жыл бұрын
it's TOTALLY false though... I've played the games several times and watched the movie countless times. a lot of the info this guy claims is just made-up for the purpose of the theory, and really none of it holds any substance. Aerith was the last Cetra, for sure... This is nothing but a theory for people without total familiarity of the story.
@jintym2951
@jintym2951 6 жыл бұрын
I love this theory! It makes the story of Advent Children/ On The Way to a Smile series all the more beautiful. The stigma only took hold of its victims in their moment of pure despair (Denzel when considering poisoning himself with a toxic rat, Rufus when trapped in the flooding cave, etc) but Aeris used this pollution of the Lifestream in inject hope & understanding into their hearts. It would also explain how Rufus could see the shade of Sephiroth in Kadaj or why all the stigma victims seemed to instictively understand that the rain was special. I'll say it again, I LOVE this theory xx
@dews8548
@dews8548 6 жыл бұрын
Nobody ask Kitase a shit about this or he will ruin! xD By the way, in Japanese version, Marlene says: "Onee-chan?" insted of "is it her?" so...cool xd
@swordofetro8291
@swordofetro8291 6 жыл бұрын
not in that way. it's more like aerith took her in.
@8Phoenix8
@8Phoenix8 3 жыл бұрын
This better show up in part 2. :) this is perfect.
@staceyhiglett2068
@staceyhiglett2068 4 жыл бұрын
Omg I absolutely loved this!
@flygonkerel781
@flygonkerel781 4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE FOLLOWUP ON THIS AFTER THE REMAKE!
@belias360
@belias360 6 жыл бұрын
The kids went to the church because Aerith directly told them to go there via their cell phones. It wasn't intuitive on their part.
@cyniic
@cyniic 4 жыл бұрын
Nice theory and this becomes more intriguing if you finally see the scene where Aerith meets Marlene in the remake ;)
@MrAnonymousization
@MrAnonymousization 4 жыл бұрын
In 2005, Kitase said in an interview that humanity was “destroyed” 500 years later after the main game. Maybe the remake is going to change this outcome of fate. Maybe that is what Advent Children was trying to show. But according to Kitase, in the end humanity was indeed wiped out 500 years later. (Closer to the bottom on the page link to see the quote.) www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku.com/that-time-final-fantasy-vii-ended-without-explaining-an-1747909454/amp EGM: At the very end of FFVII, we see the epilogue to the whole story that takes place 500 years later, so really, you still have another 497 years’ worth of games and movies to fill in.... YK: Ha, maybe I’ll try to do that. In a way, I consider that epilogue to be the true happy ending of FFVII. Well, it’s a happy ending even though all the human beings are destroyed. [Laughs]
@TheAdversaryAlliance
@TheAdversaryAlliance 6 жыл бұрын
Damn it Pez, I wasn't expecting to have feels today.
@carlosvelasquez204
@carlosvelasquez204 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent 👌 theory now I see why important Marlene and the kids are. Thanks for all the information it was very educational.
@ascier6150
@ascier6150 6 жыл бұрын
Damn it peasant you're amazing 👏👏👏
@jessymoon6330
@jessymoon6330 6 жыл бұрын
I love your theory. Haha and I cried seeing the end of advent children it does the same thing to me... this game is epic and amazing
@FFVIIFAN
@FFVIIFAN 6 жыл бұрын
it's totally false though... I've played the games several times and watched the movie countless times. a lot of the info this guy claims is just made-up for the purpose of the theory, and really none of it holds any substance. Aerith was the last Cetra, for sure... This is nothing but a theory for people without total familiarity of the story.
@colleennewholy9026
@colleennewholy9026 6 жыл бұрын
FFVII FAN Ah yes... But have you read the Ultimania? Also, the games lore is no longer set in stone. Now that the remake is being done
@FFVIIFAN
@FFVIIFAN 6 жыл бұрын
Colleen New Holy "the games lore is no longer set it stone" ....are you crazy???
@colleennewholy9026
@colleennewholy9026 6 жыл бұрын
FFVII FAN Retcons, redos & add-ons happen to every franchise in some way, shape or form.
@FFVIIFAN
@FFVIIFAN 6 жыл бұрын
Colleen New Holy nothing about the canon is gonna change. Mark my words. That has been make clear
@R3C0RDBREAK3R
@R3C0RDBREAK3R 4 жыл бұрын
Literally, Aerith is just the most livable character in the entire FF7 Realm...
@rhaenyrareigns2200
@rhaenyrareigns2200 6 жыл бұрын
That ending, though... thank you, Pez. This is a fantasy based on reality.
@angareth9378
@angareth9378 4 жыл бұрын
Whoaa the finale explanation really got me likee😭😭😭
@jj123123123100
@jj123123123100 6 жыл бұрын
Another spot on theory, ily pez
@deriktofil
@deriktofil 6 жыл бұрын
What an incredible theory bro.
@rebeccaskinner6040
@rebeccaskinner6040 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this after playing Remake a couple of times because I've had this theory for a while and the new game just strengthens it.
@CastroJr92
@CastroJr92 4 жыл бұрын
After playing FF7 remake I was like I think Marlene is an Ancient. Amazing foresight
@SteelAngelVikki
@SteelAngelVikki 6 жыл бұрын
Be there truth in it or not, I do love a good theh-reh! The idea of Aerith trying to reinstate the Cetra practices from beyond the lifesyream seems totally logical considering the theme of the game. It might not be canon, but the theme/ethical symbology of this theory could very well be something we see in the remake!
@TeysindsGamingSpot
@TeysindsGamingSpot 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible theory Pez!! I do have one question regarding the origin of humans. If they all descended from Cetra, then where do the humans who traveled to the planet from Spira fit in (according to the Ultimania connection)? Really loved everything you discussed, there's a powerful message in the reconnection between the people and the planet.
@DrakeLimOfficial
@DrakeLimOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering about this as well.
@chefclementine
@chefclementine 6 жыл бұрын
Dayum, dude. My mind has been blown. I’m going to have to replay the game, and rewatch advent children.
@christopherbellamy2021
@christopherbellamy2021 4 жыл бұрын
I just seen this video and had the most joy watching it. I can say this is no Theory to me, it’s simple facts. For food for thought I Truly thank you for this video.
@Jexol_AI
@Jexol_AI 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, my goodness... Now I have to watch "FFVII Advent Children" again!
@kayoulyfoung8171
@kayoulyfoung8171 4 жыл бұрын
I'm watching your FF7 remake game right now. the scene where Aerith finds Marlene support your theory. While Marlène is crying in her arms, there was like a scrambling of image and marlène moved away from Aerith. She clearly felt something. Aerith rematched him and asked him to remain silent.
@AspieMediaBobby
@AspieMediaBobby 6 жыл бұрын
It makes sense since within the "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII" canon humans are descendants of The Cetra which is a big part of why those born of JENOVA instinctively consider humans traitors as JENOVA considered The Cetra to be.Moogle Girl also showed a degree of awareness of Aerith(And funnily enough,Moogle Girl`s voice actress Andrea Bowen would go on to voice the younger Aerith in "Crisis Core").I`d like to add that The Remnants being taken into The Lifestream represents the false Cetra JENOVA reuniting with the true Cetra Aerith and Aerith adopting The Remnants through The Lifestream could be considered a spiritual ceasefire in the 2,000 Year-long war between The Cetra and JENOVA,at least for now.
@EirikXL
@EirikXL 6 жыл бұрын
Man I got onto the feels train mate
@elshuisman16
@elshuisman16 6 жыл бұрын
Thank God! I've always thought this!
@gideonzz
@gideonzz 6 жыл бұрын
Good video Pez, very interesting I really like this one! Just some things I think are stated wrong. 4:12 Erm, the music is the Main Theme of FF VII not Aerith's Theme in the scene between Cloud and Marlene. And everybody from the original party have a pink ribbon/bow somewhere on them as a tribute to Aerith. I just figured that Marlene asked for a braid like Aerith had. Also... What song is "Those who fight for the planet" ?? Pretty sure that dose not exist. The battle theme can be translated as: "Those who fight" or "The people who fight" and the Boss Theme: "Those who Fight Further", "More Fighting People" "People Fighting More/Further". And one more thing, Danzel revived a phone call in the movie and he simply replied with: "Church?... Oh, I know the one". And then the phone rang again after the battle with Sephiroth and Danzel and Marlene would run to the streets, with all the phones in town ringing and the children knowing were to go because they all had gotten that same phone call as Danzel (from Aerith supposedly) (according to Nojima at least).
@martineh5341
@martineh5341 6 жыл бұрын
Getting to hold the white materia by Aerith like she got it from her mother I do feel made the connection between Marlene and Aerith much deeper and made Aerith significant slightly like a mother figure to Marlene. Perhaps 🤷‍♀️ haha there is so much to speculate on. Love the theory Pez. I also loved the images of the planet being green and alive again, I really feel the connection to our modern day world. 🌎 ♥ going to take a walk in nature right now 🚶🏻‍♀️
@phanboy8059
@phanboy8059 6 жыл бұрын
Martine H Aerith is a big sister figure to Marlene.Tifa is her mother figure since she is the one who took care of and raised Marlene for years. After all Marlene herself reffers to Aerith as onee-chan in the original japanese dub.
@RadicalDreamer17
@RadicalDreamer17 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Aerith is to Marlene what Cloud is to Denzel (and I dare to say... Cloud is to Denzel what Zack was to Cloud). These kids look up to Aerith/Cloud as some sort of role models (though, there is a bit of Aerith within Denzel too... since Cloud believed Aerith sent the kid to him... hence feeling doubly shitty when Cloud felt he failed the kid too... Denzel happens to have a similar fighting weapon as Aerith, seen in the little anime oav about Denzel.... and his hair color also feels similar to Aerith’s).
@R3C0RDBREAK3R
@R3C0RDBREAK3R 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely relevant to everything to the story. Even with current Final Fantasy VII Remake| Year 2020. I'm impressed Peas.. I'm impressed.
@browndemon386
@browndemon386 6 жыл бұрын
You're a ff7 philosopher my friend love you!!
@bahamut9384
@bahamut9384 6 жыл бұрын
Pez, you and the persona that came up with this theory need to be working for square! You make these games so much more interesting!! Even if square believe we're looking too deep. Maybe the should take notes - that's exactly what we want! X
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