Marley Marl: Rakim Didn’t Excite Me At First & “Eric B. Is President” Has Sloppiest Cuts In Hip-Hop

#MarleyMarl stops by #UniqueAccessEnt to discuss why Rakim didn't excite him at first. The Queens, New York producer also tells #SorenBaker about how “Eric B. Is President” has the sloppiest cuts in hip-hop. Watch & subscribe. Let us know what you think.
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[@mystapaul]

Rakim was so dope nobody really paid attention to what Eric B was doing

[@roconway]

I always said Eric B. had the easiest job in rap.. back in the day!

[@puffandpass7438]

All DJ's had it good all they had to do was sit back and scratch and the checks wuld be rolling in fo em

[@blainelee8021]

Some of those djs really earned their money.

[@THEREALDJMIKENICE]

Rakim did the cuts

[@barty2381]

He never smiled 😃

[@WareWolf831]

To play devils advocate. Raking was not the same without Eric b even with Dre just not as dope

[@watkinzdageneral4466]

DJ Marley Marl is Godfather of sampling! He inspired so many Producers like: Pete Rock, DJ Premier, Large Pro and myself! A true PIONEER AND LEGENDARY ICON!!! 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@daltonhanleyjr4142]

I almost agree with you, but I would think the God Father of sampling goes to CedGee of Ultra magnetic MC's. He actually owned one of the first samplers released in the states and is credited for the samples and production on BDP Criminal Minded along with other hits . Marley is a close second.

[@deshaundozier]

@@daltonhanleyjr4142 great call

[@AMOKIAN]

On my Top 5 ALL Time List.

[@watkinzdageneral4466]

@@daltonhanleyjr4142 Damn I forgot about CedGee... Thanks for reminding me of the God!!! 💯💥👊🏽💥

[@jonathansoko5368]

Easy Mo Bee is my goat tho

[@keiththomas111]

Can't deny Marley contrition to hip hop glad to here these stories good or bad

[@first_to_lett_a_rhymme_flow_]

Or *CONTRIBUTION⁉️⁉️*

[@djlz9410]

@@first_to_lett_a_rhymme_flow_ lol

[@WareWolf831]

I think the slight imperfections and differences in real playing is what gives you that swing quantizing takes the funk out

[@mrbdx]

Sheeiiiit! The cuts on EBIP are part of what make the song what it is! That song is PERFECT the way it is….

[@DecorDecorLLC]

🎯

[@ericwright2594]

With the smut on Marley's name he needs to stop

[@latymz]

He sounds like he's hating. Dude literally gave the most iconic lyricist in hip hop the wrong advice. And Rakim went on to become a legend in the game. A wordsmith that still gets mad praise.

[@ayomideolawale4528]

@@latymz facts! I was just thinking the same thing.

[@latymz]

@@ayomideolawale4528 Glad to see I'm not the only one with this opinion.

[@myst4hire1]

When I first started really getting into hip hop in the very early 90’s during the rise of Rap City and Yo MTV Raps, Marley Marl and the Juice Crew was definitely in my listening rotation. “The Symphony” to this day is one of my favorite joints to listen to. 👍🏾 Thank you Marley Marl for your contributions to hip hop. 🙏🏾

[@knaziringram4589]

Facts! Imagine if Rakim had Jazzy Jeff as his DJ!

[@ronaldblakejr]

That wouldn't have worked. The Dj compliments the Rapper & this would've been a clash

[@dredeezy2262]

@@ronaldblakejr why would you think they'd clash?...Jeff is one of most skilled and versatile DJ's in hip hop period.

[@ronaldblakejr]

@@dredeezy2262 When its Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince, who can't you wait to hear? With Eric B & Rakim, who is it your more anticipating? Now imagine if Jazzy & Rakim was a group, then who would get the lime light? Its always either or in Hip-Hop

[@dredeezy2262]

@@ronaldblakejr ok I see where you're coming from now...interesting perspective. At first I thought you were underestimating (or not taking seriously) Jeff's abilities as a DJ being on Rakim's level as an MC.

[@ronaldblakejr]

@@dredeezy2262 Never that. I totally understand & wish there was a mesh up that wouldn't take away from the other... That would be Dope!

[@frank-xp6pj]

It’s shocking how much Rakim produced beats that he never got credit for BUT yet Eric B took credit & NEVER tried to say “ Yo Rakim did that “

[@jamaalhorton2343]

Marley Marl was feeling Rakim but he said he went off energy so Rakim wasn’t fucking with Marley!!

[@dirtyglovekennels616]

As a person who been listening to the scratching in Hip Hop since the beginning of Hip Hop I got to say I agree with Marley always wondered how did Eric B get away with that

[@altaariq]

Me too

[@ronaldblakejr]

The beats & Rakim saved him

[@sgtcreasegrease]

ngl, Philly and west coast DJs (with a few exceptions) were putting us to work lmao. Philly and the bay deserve a lot of credit for pushing turntablism forward in the early-mid 80s.

[@deadpoo4707]

He didn't have an ear for the very hip hop record that changed the game of hip hop forever ERIC B FOR PRESIDENT. WTF!!!

[@therealevilgenius7482]

Even Rakim said Eric B was too busy buying jewelry when he should've been working on his cuts.

[@davidgiordano9734]

Eric B's cuts were sloppy as hell

[@Chuxx1000]

@@davidgiordano9734 ASF! 💯

[@maribelvillafuerte2392]

But but Eric B gave Rakim his street credit. He wouldn’t have never never never ever ever been able to move around the city without Eric B, boy was a suburbanite

[@maribelvillafuerte2392]

@@davidgiordano9734 in the 80’s no you couldn’t and that was Eric main dutie no assumption facts

[@maribelvillafuerte2392]

@@davidgiordano9734 bro who cares soft ass dude taking shit personal....you just proving my point...you are reaching and associating Eric was the force fuck where you claim... no bug some one else for a lesson!

[@pumpkineater..]

Love the questions (on all your stuff). These are details that I have always wanted to know...

[@deshaundozier]

My melody is my favorite Rakim song

[@boogieblackwell5821]

Me too. I actually like the original better than the mixed version

[@callieban2815]

Thank you for the opportunity! Came out dope!

[@derrickmallory8877]

Legendary Producer & Awesome Interview 👌

[@DutchWeazel]

Can't watch the whole video now But definitely looking forward on doing so 🔥🔥🔥

[@michaelpleasant1802]

This was great content...Marley Marl is a hip hop legend....One of the architects of this genre we call hip hop...

[@ripman21]

Marley Marl is in contention for the sloppiest cuts in hip hop. I present for your consideration the following: "He Cuts So Fresh" and "Marley Scratch"

[@facksvillain2296]

😂😂 now I have to go back and listen

[@The_Pause_Tape_KING]

Nah not Marley Scratch!

[@topflight6066]

Those cuts were Sloppy as hell.

[@ronaldblakejr]

A lot of Ppl don't knw that Marley, Eric & Polo was like a scratch crew

[@martinfinch4605]

Hey soren, didn't most of the Cold Chillin artists bring their own samples to record their albums? Kane, G Rap, Ace, Biz have all openly said this in the past. Thus making Marly's job a lot easier. Also, I find it amazing that Marly didn't like rakim to begin with. As with Ra, its all about the voice, flow & lyrics, which were all evident on his 1st single. Mind you, didn't marly & Mr magic refer to P.E as rubbish & said "no more music by these suckas" after their 1st single?

[@shadowmixx]

Given some of the differences between 'the production process' back then verses today; I thought Marly would have been a bit more humble. Some dudes have occasionally brought me their own music, and all I had to do was record vocals and then mix everything down, so it cuts down on the process considerably.

[@ripman21]

He acted more as an engineer than a producer. Marly Marl has taken credit for ideas that weren't his for a while.

[@The_Pause_Tape_KING]

@@ripman21yeah but lets not act like Marley only engineered all the Cold Chillin' records but didn't produce a significant amount of them still

[@arthurturner9307]

Yeah I heard that too

[@LITMOVIESCENES]

@@shadowmixx these old guys arent humble at all! lol

[@jimr9499]

Soren: you def should convert all these epic interviews into podcast form. I love listening to them, you get all the great guests that most other formats don't. But I drive for a living so it would just be much easier (and safer lol) for me to just click a podcast and go. Either way, love your work and never stop!

[@eddiesoul4890]

Come on Marley!!...Your cuts on Craig G's ( Tansforner ) was kinda week too...( The part when he was cuttin' Curtis Blows voice ) The song was " Dance to my beat "...

[@shadowmixx]

Soren mentioned Doug Lazy at 11:12. Shout out to him. Doug is one of the coolest brothers that I know. He is quite active as a dope producer nowadays, and a spokesperson for Maschine. Is there by any chance an interview with him?

[@altaariq]

That's a name I ain't heard in forever

[@messiahblackgod]

This is iconic. Marley should make a movie about his life... He's my number one face on my Mt. Rushmore of Producer inspiration...Peace to DJ Calliban as well...

[@thomasbrown3356]

Funny, I fell out listening to hip hop in 84-86 cause I found it stale and stagnant. Wasn't feeling LL and Fat Boys at all. Eric B for President was the first track that led me back the 'ne.w school rap' that they had labelled at the time. Rakim's flow was a breath of fresh air at the time.

[@learner5090]

I agree, it was some of the acts were elementary. I was listening to some of the late 70s raps, it sounded better than early 80s raps!

[@MrGST360]

Both of you seem very suspect

[@thomasbrown3356]

@@MrGST360 That human beat box shit was so whack.

[@cojack636]

@@thomasbrown3356 so is autotune

[@thomasbrown3356]

@Michael Harley Which was before the dressed era, I'm talking about..

[@AaronLesterMedia]

Not A Pioneer. No he's THE Pioneer. I'm so proud to say I grew up while he was perfecting Hip Hop. What a time to be alive.

[@claudegrinnell9602]

Eric b as a DJ was always a cover up.

[@marcomcdowell8861]

Man, I remember hearing Sugarhill Gang on the radio along with Grandmaster Flash, and they played it under the disco section...fast forward to Marley Marl and all the rest, it was crazy how fast hip-hop went from disco bangers to a new genre. Even crazy how a kid in Ohio was able to follow it all thanks to a local DJ who have some kind of affiliation with Mr. Magic and would bring albums from NYC to spin.

[@cle-chi]

man...you sound like u from Cleveland like me. Cause our djs went & did the same. Dj coocheese dj johnny o etc....

[@THEREALDJMIKENICE]

Marley took credit for producing shit he actually Engineered. G Rap himself produced alot of the early records before Large Pro did actual production

[@learner5090]

Wow, never knew this!

[@DeeNice681]

Marley’s a legend, but 45 King’s my fav from back than!

[@user-hx8zm4fe4q]

🎯💯 They all said that same thing

[@The_Pause_Tape_KING]

Marley's own timeframe & recollection is wayyyy off because Kane wasn't even on the scene or in his camp yet when Rakim came to his crib to make a record. And he produced Kool G. Rap's first record It's A Demo AFTER he had recruited DJ Polo (his high school classmate) to go out & find an Emcee to counteract the duo of Eric B & Rakim. He's contradicting his own statements about how Kool G. Rap & Polo even came about in the first place!

[@Ape_In_His_Apex]

He old(er) it happens

[@The_Pause_Tape_KING]

@@Ape_In_His_Apex lol glad you said it & not me!

[@MrRodney215]

The symphony is one of my favorite childhood songs!

[@jhonezcronic]

Who is the hanger on in the red hat??? I came to hear Marley… not his ad libs 😏

[@milltymefresh]

Thats MC So & So

[@damonadams9640]

ERIC B. & RAKIM'S PRESIDENT & MY MELODY IS 2 OF THE ABSOLUTE DOPEST JOINTS THAT I EVER HEARD THAT THE GOD/KING MARLEY EVER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH FRFR I HAVE NEVER LISTENED TO ANYTHING OF KANES & G RAP PUT TOGETHER AS MUCH AS I HAVE MY MELODY & I LOVE ALL THOSE DUDES FRFR!!![999]

[@fourhorsemenmechanix757]

I honestly think that sometimes less is more I personally think that Eric B's simple style of scratching complimented Rakim's complex raps. To me Jam Master Jay is another DJ that had simple, easy cuts for the most part but the way he did them fit the group's style

[@UniqueAccessEnt]

Interesting comparison, @fourhorsemenmechanix757. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.

[@byrondavies9221]

Love the questions this interviewer brings to the table.

[@MrMrtsmith72]

Rhyming with biz...when I disected how he produced it 6 samples he took bits and pieces and killed it..Good questions Soren

[@diesel101raw]

The lesson in Hip-Hop here is just cause u can make a song faster dosen't mean it's better. Rakim took his and we got Paid in Full which is easily the most Celebrated album from the 80's. Big Daddy Kane & Kool G Rap's album do not get celebrated the same way Rakim's albums do

[@Thomas_Swift]

WBLS and Mr. Magic's show was the opening door for anyone who never heard of Marley Marl, and Pete Rock among 2 out of the top 20 producers of my era. Marley kept it very simple and raw no frills just SKILLS 👍

[@djkingdavid313]

That 4 album run was in ‘88: Biz “Goin’ Off”, Kane “Long Live…”, “In Control” & Shan “Born To Be Wild”

[@UniqueAccessEnt]

A classic run for sure, dj king david 313 detroit skills. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.

[@damonadams9640]

SHAN ABSOLUTELY KILLED IT FRFR!!![999]

[@alvidama151]

i love the eraly beats from biz ., the do do , make the musik !!

[@MarsNova]

I’ve never heard anyone talk about Eric B’s performance, so glad this debate is out there now for people to have. Having said that, I think of his performance a lot like I perceive abstract art. Rhythmically, the baseline comes off like reggae, and the echo effect makes me think of Black Ark or Mikey Dread dub, so…all the accidents become happy accidents. It ends up sounding not-so-much sloppy, but more forward-thinking and futuristic. He and Marley shaped the turntables into musical instruments, for the first time since “Rockit” and “Roxanne, Roxanne.” There are these abrupt interjections and weird shapes made by Eric’s scratches, with samples colliding into each other in this big box of rich, echoing sound. I prefer the original version BECAUSE of Eric B’s performance. Who could ever dare to duplicate it? Respectfully, I disagree with Marley.

[@UniqueAccessEnt]

Interesting perspective, @MarsNova. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.

[@Tenasedeinc]

Still trying to imagine if Marley went to electronic music instead of Hip Hop. I would have loved to have been his under study.

[@UniqueAccessEnt]

That would have been interesting, Infinite. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.

[@Tenasedeinc]

@@UniqueAccessEnt I was going through your page you have a lot of interesting content. #salute

[@puffandpass7438]

I love how McShan wuldn't call Big Daddy Kane by his name instead he called him the new guy now thats funny

[@shadowmixx]

Interesting interview. Marley has definitely been blessed, but now I gotta go back and listen to Eric B Is President with my 'producer' ears now. Also, doesn't 200,000 divided by 4 come to 50,000 dollars per album? So, it seems to me for that era Marley Marl wasn't hurting too much I guess; unless his lifestyle was extravagant, or the label restricted him contractually to producing 'only' 4 albums a year. Obviously doing more albums would have equated to more money for him. What about credits or royalties. Also, the production process was simpler back then. No computer learning curves. No software. 50,000 dollars in one man's pocket for simple production and mixing work? What am I missing here? I remember seeing an interview with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, and they said Janet Jackson paid them 10,000 dollars a piece to produce the Control album. Plus, they actually played physical instruments on it, were the primary producers. Not staff. That's a 30,000 dollar difference and was around 1985. What would you guys do with 50,000 dollars to produce one album? LOL!

[@user-vg5dj6qi9b]

Sloppiest cuts r a fact. Sounded like Eric B. Jus started cuttin. That's real rap. Eric was weak when it came 2 scratchin. Them dudes was so cool I jus looked it off....

[@OrondeBranch]

I said the same thing about those cuts too 🤦🏽‍♂️. But they were sloppy and dope though 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@carlos64030]

Jesus... you have NO idea how happy I am to hear someone else, A PRODUCER finally admit that 'Eric B is President' is a sloppy-ass sounding cut. I've ALWAYS thought this ever since I was a kid in the 80s, and this is coming from a HUGE fan of Rakim.

[@mystique4eva990]

dj Cool V did lots of Juice crew beats as well

[@LITMOVIESCENES]

finally got that wig cut my man lol

[@damonadams9640]

ABSOLUTELY ALWAYS LOVED & RESPECT THE GREAT MARLEY MAR, BUT HIS KEEN EYE DEFINITELY DID NOT SEE SLP ON THE GOD FRFR HIM DRE!!![999]

[@GBoyBam1]

What Marley said about the cuts was dead on!

[@AMOKIAN]

Could there be a Marley Verzuz? Who could even stand up to him? The 45King….another one of my ALL Time Top 5.

[@morewithles2738]

Dr Dre

[@ericwright2594]

Marley stop hating on b ain't nothing sloppy about the scratches on Erick b is president

[@1thomasville]

Classics

[@Jeffrowmogreen]

Can you please interview Alliance of MCs and the Skinny Boys??

[@1thomasville]

I have all four of those CDs

[@BiggBoricua]

Wow that shot at Eric B 🙈🙈🙈

[@calebbarker220]

Marley 👑 💪

[@TheCondorjc]

Eric B’s scratching are a part of history but that didn’t make them good 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@fhutch3736]

Eric B. probably had some of the worst scratches on any rap songs in history. Hard to believe he was such an integral part of some of the most classic hip hop joints

[@IceManLikeGervin]

Fun fact: Rakim did a lot of the scratching, beats on many of his songs...not Eric B

[@TheCondorjc]

@@IceManLikeGervin yes, true, but I’m talking about when he did do so, he wasn’t very good.

[@TheCondorjc]

@@IceManLikeGervin I’m aware of Rakim’s input.

[@Chuxx1000]

@@IceManLikeGervin He had to

[@avace917]

Those cuts were wild sloppy. I noticed it when I got the single

[@UniqueAccessEnt]

Indeed, @avace917. Thanks as always for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.

[@wizcoolc1]

Talk about a legend. Marely Marl, Demi God of hip hop.

[@anwav-]

South Bronx and Poetry on Criminal Minded has some pretty sloppy cuts too. But I love the way they sound.

[@fourhorsemenmechanix757]

Does South Bronx even have any scratching on it?

[@anwav-]

@fourhorsemenmechanix757 At the end, they cut up the beginning of Kurtis Blow's song "AJ Scratch": Up In The Bronx, Up-Up-Up In The Bronx....

[@craigtheflux]

Maybe I'm off but I thought Melody and Eric B is Pesident was out3 years before Kane and G Rap came out? Even if they had been rhyming, Kane didn't start fucking with Marley until after he wrote for Biz and Biz came out after Rakim🤔 But maybe I'm tripping.

[@The_Pause_Tape_KING]

G. Rap & Biz came out the same year as Rakim in 86 but Kane was in 87.

[@samriley8278]

You are not off. Marley was arrogant and missed out on a lot.

[@The_Pause_Tape_KING]

@@samriley8278 he is off about Biz & Kool G. Rap but they both came out the same year as Rakim but Rakim came out first.

[@ROGYAX]

scratching is an art form. Eric B is an artist. good artists do not do their art like everybody else. Eric B is a genius level artist.

[@The_Pause_Tape_KING]

Eric B has done nothing in the form of art since that first single. He was an executive figure on the albums just like Puff Daddy was. They both are not technical nor are they beatmakers & do not know how to use the studio equipment they only gave direction on their vision for the record. Little known fact that Rakim did all the cuts after that first single not Eric B.

[@rich1223]

Cause Long Island rappers weren't all.that respected just yet!

[@TheSstretch68]

Hey I forgot who it was but LARGE PRO AND SERCH brought NAS to somebody, and they weren’t excited by him. Lol But hey the rest is history 😂😂😂

[@claudegrinnell9602]

They came to Russell Simmons trying to sign nas to def jam. Telling Russell he’s a new form of kool g rap….. and Russell told them kool g rap don’t sell a million records….. This was a time when DEF jam rained and Russell was getting dusted in coked up on a regular….. way before yoga Russell

[@TheSstretch68]

@@claudegrinnell9602 Oh word? Damn RUSS missed out then. But hey even geniuses mess up opportunities.

[@therealgoodmoney]

Peace to Marley peace to caliban

[@djITALYLaChanceDeGonza]

it was cute hahah

[@kingswag28]

Marley marl claims he didn't like rakim but rakim is the lyricist of all time and Marley marl ain't.

[@carlpatterson4126]

Marley Marl is one of the greatest Producers of All Time

[@deadpoo4707]

Marley Marl, knew music, but his taste in men's was lacking. He didn't like KRS ONE'S style, or Rakim, the top 1 and 2 mcee's out of your top five.

[@mistahmst]

Marley Marl’s not a rapper

[@deadpoo4707]

@@mistahmst duh, my point made clearly.

[@mistahmst]

@@deadpoo4707 not even sure what point you were trying to make considering Marley Marl never even claimed to be a rapper.

[@7Eightyone]

I agree. And I thought Eric B is President was wack. I didn't like the sound quality and at 13 or went over my head. But was I wrong about Rakim.

[@MaxxWatt]

Paid in Full only has 7 rap tracks on it !!!

[@puffandpass7438]

? Have you and KRS-ONE squashed the beef ya'll had back in the day and if so wuld you ever consider working with KRS-ONE

[@SkateGK]

They made a full album together back in 2007. Hip Hop Lives.

[@krizmatic717]

I am so glad somebody has finally said this dude was the worst DJ on the East Coast. Even as a young hip hop head I would always cringe when it was his turn to do his thing on the turntables poor turntables SMH

[@TrueProphit]

Eric B for president is better than anything Marley Marl has done! I will admit I’m not a Marley fan at all.

[@bufordjonesiii2528]

Agreed!! As a DJ I HATED Eric B. on the turntables- he was so wack!!

[@davidgiordano9734]

JMJ was kinda of wack too

[@bufordjonesiii2528]

@@davidgiordano9734 i used to think so- as far as scratches, yeah- Jay didnt cut mych, but Jay was actually Dee Jaying! He had the beat going- Eric was just cutting and doing a terrible job.

[@michaelscott5775]

Ain't no joke..ERIC B WAS DOPE..HE CAN CUT!!

[@davidgiordano9734]

@@michaelscott5775 Lol I would have destroyed Eric B in a DJ battle even when I 13 years old.. . He was really quit awful!

[@davidgiordano9734]

@@bufordjonesiii2528 Thats a fair point. JMJ had decent timing but nothing exceptional

[@LITMOVIESCENES]

old timers lol..stickers on hats..du rags lol..plain black hat lol

[@jamalvines2133]

WELL HE MISSED OUT BY BEING BIAS

[@willie8707]

I’ve always argued with my homie about Eric B being trash. Easily the worst DJ in the game. ✊🏿

[@mikelh.7958]

its good to hear a legend support what I always knew: eric b was doodoo!

[@deshaundozier]

Marley what about he cuts so fresh” that shit sloppy as hell

[@ICEMAN24072]

Marley or Eric had any of the best cuts lmao.

[@jnfe]

Marley is too old to continue to speak "hood." I'm surprised that with someone as cultured as him that his vernacular still caters to the streets. My "N word", incessant profanity; he should be way more refined than what I'm seeing/hearing in this interview.

[@them.6306]

Eric B was the WORST DJ besides Cut Creator who NEVER scratched on LL records it was Bob Cat

[@deenraida]

Agreed. Eric B cuts were never that precise. Cut Creator did do all the cuts on the Radio album. After that, Bobcat... who of course was better...

[@ibrahimabdul-jalil827]

DJ Jazzy Jay from Zulu Nation did all the cuts on the LL Cool J Radio Album

[@Cashmere.Kufi_88]

So the track "Go Cut Creator" on I'm Bad album wasn't Cut Creator scratching?

[@ibrahimabdul-jalil827]

DJ Bob Cat did all the cuts on that album except 1 track DJ Pooh

[@deenraida]

@@ibrahimabdul-jalil827 I can't dispute that. Not even gonna try. Lol

[@alantoler8266]

Marley is the GOD of GODS

[@GranFinale]

I absolutely, %100 percent agree with Marley. I wasn't moved by "Eric B. is President" and couldn't understand why everybody loved it. The scratching was below mediocre and Ra's bars were subpar. It wasn't until "Check out my melody" that I realized he was nice.

[@ripman21]

You have your opinion but boy you are dead if Eric B Is President didn't move you. Also Check Out My Melody was the B side.

[@GranFinale]

@@ripman21 "It takes two" by Rob base & EZ Rock, "Funky For you" by Nice & Smooth and "Ego Trippin" by Ultra Magnetic were classic party records that people felt. It didn't necessarily make them dope Hip Hop records, like "Raw" by BDK, or "Night of the living baseheads" by P.E. There's levels. See the difference ?

[@The_Pause_Tape_KING]

You talk about the scratching & the lyrics but said nothing about the beat itself. The rhythm drum track is dope ASF that's why everbody else loved it!

[@The_Pause_Tape_KING]

@@GranFinale problem is all those songs you mentioned are dope Hip Hop records especially Ego Trippin' which is NOT a party record but Raw is.

[@GranFinale]

@@The_Pause_Tape_KING Because Marley wasn't. He spoke on the scratching and not being impressed by Rakim.

[@ignoranceisnotatrend4669]

His cuts wasn't on time .

[@morewithles2738]

Marley was the east coast version of Dr Dre.