Marshall Origin 20 vs 1971 Marshall JMP "Plexi"

[@pan6367]

Chapman and Captain in a dimension where everyone's hair is 20cm longer

[@gabrielfelipe4322]

LOL

[@Tonuky]

😂

[@supergrover8or]

Also in a dimension where they have a little taste in music.

[@donjohnson7550]

And actually testing amps instead of just soloing off

[@joshmuz9018]

Why are so many people say this sounds bad, this is how a plexi sounds without a band behind it, that’s why it cuts through and sounds like a beautiful layer of high mids when in the mix. It’s not about playing solo, good solo sounds are crap in a mix.

[@KelsterVonShredster]

Sounds pretty damn good to me and I'm a boutique plexi snob (currently Friedman lover). This sounds great!

[@kenaiello4851]

Depends on the computers speakers sounds good on mine too

[@pickledblues]

Reading everyone that says the amps sucks but have no idea what a plexi actually sounds like. That’s it. Fizzy, bottom heavy and sounds like it’s falling apart. I have the 50c and it’s stunning. Just an amazing amp

[@bluesbishop]

pickledblues ...I couldn't agree more! I've owned a 71 super lead, a 78 JMP 2203 and a Bray modded JTM45 reissue, and my Origin 50 gets classic old school Marshall tones....high gain...nope. But the 50 is a great platform for pedals.

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

Very true. For years I owned a 50 watt 58 Plexi. I know have the Origin 50H and trust me, They have nailed it!

[@kenaiello4851]

People dont know how to dial there gear in and blame the amp lol

[@kenaiello4851]

50 c here too check the bias yet or change any tubes?

[@BrandonEht]

Sounds more like a bluesbreaker to me

[@BenoitFlechet64]

thanks you, we're so many waiting for this real demo, a les Paul.. a 4x12... a real review... THANKS !!!

[@TheDarthsteve316]

Oh my God, this. I'm so sick and tired of seeing a 5w or 20w combo. That's not what I'm interested in this head for.

[@RambleTone]

Finally another one showing how good the Origin series actually sounds!🎸👍👍👍👏

[@Yohahn]

If anyone is wondering the 50w is great. I've been playing around with it for a couple of hours and it is absolutely the Origin amp to get if you are getting one.

[@vladragnarrson5466]

Johan Engström are you using the head or combo

[@Yohahn]

i have the head. I made several videos *shamelssplug* on it but i use it as my main amp with the band now :)

[@vladragnarrson5466]

Johan Engström thanks for the reply. Im gonna go for the 50w and have conflicted between the head and combo, but I keep getting good feedback on the head version.

[@mariosoldano1]

tried the 50 W head, it is absolutely thin sounding and does not cut through...tried it at home and rehearsel...send it back to Thomann..........

[@Yohahn]

What cabinet did you use it with?

[@moelester6479]

Who is this impostor Rob and Lee?

[@SeanZetterlund]

LOL i thought the same. Though, from the little i've seen thus far, these guys might be better at guitar, tbh

[@bensinner6251]

Moe Lester imp Osterchappers and Imp Osterlee

[@addicted2tone349]

These guys are way better. Robs a douche..

[@KelsterVonShredster]

lol!

[@bakstabbath]

Kind of the same thing without the 8 grams of cocaine before filming.

[@Dzika_Astronomia]

The most useful test AND review of Marshall Origin 20 Head I managed to find on whole KZbin (after one month of watching/searching/looking for objective/reliable videos).

[@robd754]

thanks, thats the demo i have been waiting for.. dont know why it took so long for someone to figure this out..seemed obvious from the start..

[@robritoboy]

Love it... the 4x12 takes it over the top with the right sound. Now I'm gonna have to buy the 4x12 for my bedroom!

[@Tom_Platz]

If you didn't dig the guitar tone from 6:45 to 8:28, there is no help for you.

[@SgtPowerWeiner]

Holy shit at 17:20 it really started to sound like a plexi! I want to see what happens on low to medium gain with the master all the way up

[@chuckmatses6803]

Hey not a tattoo in sight, amazing!

[@willdenham]

Thanks for cranking it guys. Gets tiring watching these demos where folks play it on 3 with a drive pedal and call it a day.

[@adamwatson6916]

And they all seem to use an SD 1

[@willdenham]

@@adamwatson6916 That pedal is fine, when the amp is hot. Yet that's rarely the case. I don't know if it's a millenial zoomer thing, they all seem afraid of volume. We used to crank 100 and 50 watt heads onstage and in rehearsal without even thinking about it.

[@pappyfightkid]

This review is pretty annoying. Now not only do I need an Origin (50h in post) but I need a Les Paul to go with it 😡

[@trevor4533]

You're also gonna need a '71 plexi and a strat too .... and every other cool toy they used in the video too lol

[@toreknutsen7251]

All the people who dislike this amp: how are you dialing it in? Mine sounds great. 20h with 212 cab (2061) and a telecaster. Dime everything exept tilt and bass who are set to zero. Use guitarpots to tame it😊

[@robertscottpurse1]

Wish you could have featured more of the SG Jr.

[@zoomzoom3950]

Great demo of the Origin. I took a chance on the Origin 50C. It exceeded my expectations, so I also have the Origin 50H full stack (Origin 4x12 cabs). It can get the JTM 45/100 and the Plex Super Lead 100 tones I want, for a great price. I usually just go straight into the amp or use a GEQ pedal as a boost

[@vin9976]

How’s that 50combo still doing? I was about to buy a used one and perhaps mod with a Headfirst style setup. Are you getting those legit Hendrix cleans and also the gnarly organic breakup distortion too? That’s a pretty high bar for stock Origin!

[@zoomzoom3950]

@@vin9976 I still dig the Origin 50C; I get Hendrix tones that sound good to me; I have a Hendrix patch in my HX Effects with Fuzz Face, Vox Wah, Octavia, Univibe and reverse delay. Start with the Crunch 2 settings on the Marshall website's Origin 50H page sound examples; it's more SRV but you can adjust from there. I mostly go guitar into Origin, sometimes use a Source Audio EQ2 for a lead boost/shaping. Early to mid-70s rock/hard rock sounds (Humble Pie, Kiss, Deep Purple, Aerosmith, AC/DC, BTO,...) Cheers!

[@vin9976]

@@zoomzoom3950 I just played the 50w Combo. Damn it sounds pretty good even with that odd light-weight speaker in there! Worked great for distorted home tunes on the 5w setting and was badass cranked at 50w! Those tubes just take over. So...how much am I missing out by using the combo tone wise? (love it's size and weight!!). I can't go full 4x12 but maybe I could find a used 2x12 cab but its gets expensive vs just the combo on a steal used. How much am I missing tone wise by skipping the 2x12 you think?

[@zoomzoom3950]

@@vin9976 I like the combo, not sure what you'd be missing with it besides a wider sound dispersion of larger cabs with more speakers. I use the combo more than the full stack, in fact I'm using the Origin 2 x 4x12 cabs with my JVM410H. Unlike a few of the Studio series combos, the Origin 50C has a 12" speaker that sounds good, loud and compact. You can also run external cabs with the Origin 50C if you wanted more, e.g., add a 1x12 extension cab, there's your 2x12 rig?

[@vin9976]

Good to hear! That’s high praise for that little combo. I was really surprised by how decent that stock speaker was lol. Are you running it still or did you swap for something else? Also, did you ever compare a 20h to the 50? I’m typically not a fan of the little 20w transformers but I’ve never tested them side by side

[@jorgiewtf]

Hey guys, great video! I was hoping you could do a comparison between the new Studio Vintage and these awesome Origins. And please make a 20 watt to 20 watt comparison. The few I’ve found always compare a 50 watt to a 20. That’s a huge difference. Thank you and cheers!

[@reidys]

I think you're right. The new Studio Vintage needs an Origin 20 comparison for sure!

[@SeanKerns]

I'd love to hear this same demo without the extra boost pedal. I have one of the 50W heads, and this seems much gainier. Sounded like you had the boost on pretty much all the time?

[@KM-tg5km]

JPM?. Come on guys!. Otherwise a good review. Captured the tone very well.

[@manawarrior2010]

The LemonCasters I’ll hold my hands up. I’m dyslexic and my brain sometimes switches words and letters. Can’t be helped but it is what it is. Glad you liked it apart from my brain fart.

[@KM-tg5km]

***** Understandable then Gareth. Not a problem. You captured some great tones. Held its own against your 71 .I love my 50 origin head. Wish I still had my 1987x sometimes but yes they are too loud for most venues (according to the soundman). The Origin is a great compromise in my opinion. Thanks again. Respect.

[@andrewcrawley285]

These two are hilarious. Love the Lancashire accent

[@heckmlife2138]

Thank you for selling it to me :DD

[@darwinsaye]

All of the people who have been whining that these don’t have the real Marshall sound have never listened to Hendrix, and that clip at 17:31 proves it. THAT IS the sound of a 1960s Marshall. If you want 80s tones go buy a SC20 and stop bitching about the Origin.

[@michaelinglis8516]

I went with the DSL100HR a few months ago and I'm so glad I did. The origin would be fun to play around on but I want, scratch that, NEED versatility. Still glad they made the origin so there's a 50w classic style amp on the market but so far I don't think I'll own one. They do sound good at what they are going for so maybe if I ever find one at a good price.

[@robritoboy]

DSL is a fizzmonster.

[@michaelinglis8516]

robritoboy Have you owned a 100HR model? Obviously not as that's the last thing anyone would say after trying it. Did you even own the 100H or are you just regurgitating what you've heard? The whole idea behind the HR is a voicing/eq improvement which most people agree was a success. That or your using shit pedals or shit power. Even with my passive single coils distorted the "fizz" is hardly there. Youd have to be playing it all alone in a small room to notice. The 100HR is for real musicians that gig or at least jam in live situations. Anyways your entitled to your opinion but I'm pretty certain your full of shit. If your talking about a 100H you'd have more legitimacy but we weren't talking about a 100H now were we? Even if we were I guess you know more than Joe Bonnamesa about how to get good tone from an amp? Now.....if you meant "fizzmonster" in a good way.....im not following?

[@robritoboy]

I had a DSL40C, I absolutely hated it. I tried every mod in the book, but just couldn't get rid of that Fizz. I agree it reduced when played very loud, and cabs help, but it was always there. I almost became obsessive about it in the end. I sold it about 2 weeks back, going to buy an Origin. You will be using a Cab, so will be different for you, but I just couldn't stand it any longer. Not sure I agree with your statement the voicing was a success. The new DSL40CR has gone a long way to precisely reduce that Fizz (even though it's still there). There are many, many pages of forums discussing and trying to get around this.

[@michaelinglis8516]

robritoboy Combos are never going to sound as good, it's well known that the speakers provided sound like shit. But I'm mainly talking about the 100HR anyways with two orange ppc112's (v30's real ones not the marshall imitations). Every single peice of your signal chain effects tone so I can be reasonable enough to say I'm sure some setups are not good with dsl's. But I never buy combos, it's a moneygrab option. They give you a dirt cheap speaker that is a pain in the ass to change out compared to just switching cabs and charge way to much more for it compared to the head. It's like buying a Lamborghini and having the dealer put 7 eleven plastic rims on it that are permenently attached. Just my opinion. Not just any speaker will please everyone, I think they should be selected on a personal level. Anyways point is I respect that you found it fizzy but there's a reason lots of people love them other than a great price tag. I know several guys with amps worth 5x what DSL is bit they all got excited when the HR came out enough so to buy their own.

[@robritoboy]

I changed speakers a few times, but the fizz was always there, and to my ears it's still in the new DSL/Rs. Each to their own, not everyone likes the same thing. I'm sure you love your setup, I actually love my Fender Princeton Reverb, but I'm trying to find a good classic Marshall sound that I like. But the DSL was not for me. I was thinking of replacing with a JVM instead, but now the Origins are out, I'm going to try some out in person and go from there. Ideally I'd like one of everything. You have to love your sound and want to play it. The DSL wasn't that for me. As I said that fizz was almost obsessive for me in the end, I couldn't stand it. It probably sounds derogatory to you, but it's the way I hear it. Glad you love your sound, it's okay to love your own baby.

[@lotusmark2]

Cracking job guys

[@stinkystubin]

These amps are decent but compared to the SV20 there is a pretty big difference. These amps tend to be kind of muddy and anemic. If they had a little bit more gain and clarity they would be dead on. They are not bad considering the price.

[@joeisitt1904]

Not quite Chapters and The Captain, more Reeves and Mortimer.

[@mattstewie420]

Loved hearing the darkness on here. great song!! is the 20 loud enough to gig with?

[@reidys]

Gotta love a bit of Hawkins! I'd say so, but it depends on the gig (and how loud your drummer is!)

[@mrt7476]

Since you would be micing the amp at a gig, I wouldnt see why not. Plenty of stage volume.

[@hdspringer98]

Yet another demo that just solidifies my opinion that the Origin series is off my buy list and very unMarshall sounding.

[@jammergreg]

Dave C, I had one for three days and even played a gig with it. It was the 20c combo. Tried it with a 12 inch speaker and my speaker jack didn't work for 2, 12 inch speakers. If they use better parts it would probably be a good app. Dave C, you're right. The old Plexes were very creamy, my 20c sounded fizzy even through a 12 inch Celestion cream back

[@LeviBulger]

jammergreg I've thought the same thing. Very fizzy and no warmth whatsoever

[@robbie12207]

The amps are actually fantastic. I think this video is recorded poorly.

[@TommyMartinezTube]

is it made of particle wood or plywood?

[@psychojackjack2139]

Played it in Guitar Center today. Hated it. Rather have the new DSL but would choose the new Blackstar Mark 2 over both Marshalls

[@stephbrant]

Where did you hear that there were only 1000 Gibson SG Junior LE's made on 2018? Just wondering. I didn't think Gibson released any production numbers for that model.

[@manawarrior2010]

stephbrant the Gibson rep told me when he came in to the shop. Mine was the first he’d seen. That’s how rare they are. Mad to think they only made 1000.

[@stephbrant]

Gareth Webb Thanks for the reply! I purchased one a few months ago and did not know how "limited" this limited edition was.

[@dontpanic2007]

Gareth Webb May i ask you if you change the stop tail bridge? It seems different from the one pictured in the Gibson site

[@manawarrior2010]

dontpanic2007 I got a lightning rod wrap over Bridge. It’s compensated for the intonation. We have a keyboard player in the so the intonation really needs to be on point. If I was still just in a three piece rock band I would have been able to get away with it.

[@MS-Patriot2]

Yet another load of high gain rubbish recorded on a potato. I have the Origin 20 with an Orange PPC112. It sounds nothing like this. Keep gain low, push the power amp and believe me, this is amp is a beauty. Avoid combo’s, looks like Marshall spent as much time choosing the speaker as they did on their in-house demo’s of the Origin series. Very confused. I have owned several Marshalls over the years and the Origin 20 through a decent weighty cab sounds the best to me for AC/DC type tone. Agreed, if you want more gain and two channels in a Marshall, the DSL is the one for you.

[@pedraw]

I don't know whether the mix was off or that amp just doesn't cut. Kinda disappointing.

[@ronaldjohnston3723]

pedraw kinda boxy

[@pedraw]

Yes, I've been noticing that on some other videos of the Origin amplifiers.

[@andrewgarcia3136]

it's because people always run the tilt control too far to the left.

[@DrMobiusOfficial]

What just happened at around 16.18?

[@manawarrior2010]

Aimran479 it’s a weird harmonic hammer on pull off thing I robbed off Van Halen. If you hammer on and pull off and rest your picking hand on the strings and move it towards the neck you get some cool sounds. Try it!

[@DrMobiusOfficial]

Ah gosh, I know the song. It's right on the tip of my tongue now. VH1.

[@DrMobiusOfficial]

I'm the one?

[@manawarrior2010]

Aimran479 you got it. Fun trick.

[@acerob7173]

definitely thumb up when arrived riffs of KISS ROCK AND ROLL ALL NITE A PARTY EVERY DAY !!!!! 🤟😎🎸

[@willdenham]

Who's playing through which amp?

[@jimi4405]

Not keen on the Strat through it, way too much top end, too glassy. Thankfully I will be using a Les Paul with mine... Good review though!

[@NeilMurphy-z5v]

Plexi amps sound killer in a band mix , if you listened to half the recorded solos on there own you would say meh dry i mean,

[@0chappell]

jeez the hum is too loud, you need a noise reduction pedal, like the ISP Decimator

[@Kurt9099]

I hope the Origin sound better in person than it does on this video. It sounds like i'm listening to AM radio.

[@NeilMurphy-z5v]

Chaptin and capters

[@alexmurphy5289]

Marsh-all from Alabama

[@butterscotchtele]

cab/speakers?

[@reidys]

Marshall 1960A

[@MS-Patriot2]

Absolutely essential to select carefully for your ideal sound. Celestion Vintage 30 in a closed cab works for me.

[@MS-Patriot2]

@rocknroll1973 cool, what guitar and what style do you play ?

[@MS-Patriot2]

@rocknroll1973 Thanks, I’m with you there. Rock on 🤟

[@pigpog2307]

Why does he keep saying JPM ? It’s JMP lol 😂

[@sbadali1]

This amp sounds sub-par in every demo; so glad I did not pre-order one. I have played the 20W and 50W combos; they don't sound much better in a live setting either.

[@GuitarStu]

This video sounds like trash, which is a shame as I have the amp and its pretty good. Its shame these amps sound great clean and loud. Add pedals to taste.

[@Muddybagclean]

Jesus Loves You

[@manawarrior2010]

Muddybagclean nice one

[@yeauld]

And I love Jesus, He is my God

[@fullmetalsal]

You read your so called facts from the forums? Yikes.

[@r8pilot296]

Love Marshalls....this is horrible

[@LeviBulger]

These origin amps are so thin sounding. Big bummer. Try to play some Thin Lizzy, end up playing Thin Fizzy.

[@kenaiello4851]

Thin ya got to crank it up I have the bass at 9 o clock it has plenty of thickness

[@callumhatton8354]

andertons wanna be

[@Muddybagclean]

Jesus Loves You