Marshall Studio Vintage 20 (SV20H) vs Marshall Plexi 1987x (Is The Studio Vintage The REAL DEAL?)

[@MrPolevaulter]

Cheers to everyone who comments! If you want to see more of my amp reviews, look here: kzbin.info/aero/PLNaLwTdlpQNHNo5bubVjV1OW04gkqU8rM

[@davedynamite77]

My firiend YJM pups are humbuckers...:)

[@guyfromnj]

He said they are stacked. Equaling a humbucker. But shaped like a single coil as he has mentioned in many a video. He knows what they are sir.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Yeah, stacked humbuckers.

[@TheOnlyAlexWhalen]

Kippis!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

I like your pure honest approach to reviews no candy coating just the truth- I totally dig it man

[@montag4516]

"...nothing in the loop whatsoever." Thank you Sir for presenting in a straight plug and play manner letting us hear the pure core sound and ability before considering any extra topping (effects).

[@MrPolevaulter]

Glad you liked it.

[@minorharmonicscale]

2:37 1987x (No overdrive) 6:01 Studio vintage (no Overdrive) 3:27 1987x (overdrive) 6:38 Studio (overdrive) I prefered the studio in this video, but would be happy with both. :)

[@MrPolevaulter]

Cheers!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

I am really digging the mini plexi amp a lot aka Studio vintage- since I already have a monster high gain amp for modern metal in my Peavey 6505, this would be a good counterbalance I think for me to play classic rock, blues and old school metal (with a boost/gain pedal).

[@JedNadin]

3:28 1987x 6:56 SV20 Both playing the same riff, pushed with the YJM Fender OD. It’s a VERY similar tone. But the extra watts definitely gives more bottom end and thump. The low A (A flat) note is more present and dynamic as he plays it between the chord stabs

[@GutyRodrigues]

More wattage = more low end and less mid range. I like 100w amps because of the low end and the headroom for effects live, 50w sounds amazing for leads. 20w is good for recording, but sounds so tiny, I still prefer de 50w/100w amps.

[@baykay9559]

Excellent video, and exactly what I needed to make my decision on getting the studio vintage 20. I rarely like and subscribe to any channels but I subscribed to yours because it’s great quality. And excellent guitar playing as well, very entertaining! Keep making good videos and a big THANKS from TEXAS!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Thank you very much :)

[@odgeUK]

I'm thinking this way....The 1987x will always be better than the SV20 when cranked to nearly full volume. However, NO-ONE in a gigging situation is running a 1987 on 10 without attenuation, and most are running them on about 4, with a dirt pedal to add the sustain and gain that you'd have if you could crank it. So.....if the SV20 can give you a decent version of even an attentuated 1987x, then it's the no-brainer? UNLESS...the 20w isn't enough backline to be heard over a John Bonham style drummer..

[@metalupyourass9]

The video we've all been waiting for!

[@MrPolevaulter]

:)

[@napalmhardcore]

My SV20 head + cab (1x12) and Boss Tube Amp Expander arrived yesterday. Tried it out today but now they're going back in their boxes until Christmas. I only played it fairly quietly, so I wasn't really getting the full effect. The amp sounded good, but I could tell the speaker was begging for more volume. Looking forward to giving it a proper workout. Should also be fun to try out the cab simulation and some IRs for silent practise/recording.

[@rezakhan8290]

Brother I am planning on going the same route. Can you please let me know what was your final decision and review? Thanks.

[@napalmhardcore]

@@rezakhan8290 and @sako Sorry I haven't updated, I've been rather busy recently. I have had a little time to play it purely as an attenuator (plus using the onboard reverb) and in that role it performs really well (though I feel the speaker is begging for more volume than I can give it at home). I haven't had a chance to hook it up to a computer and experiment with IRs, but I'll try to remember to update once I've had more time with it. Happy new year.

[@JDPelayoPetit]

@@napalmhardcore Hi dude! How you like that set up? I've been thinking going the same way.

[@sglee4708]

Hey this guy I hope you're doing well I just want to say I love your videos and your playing you seem to be real genuine , and a good man please keep the videos coming ! Take care.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Thanks!

[@philipstalter4448]

Thank you for the video. I just subscribed. Your playing is phenomenal and your reviews really well done!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Thank you very much :)

[@MrJesusjunky777]

Has anyone had any issues with the effects loop with the 20 W head? Even when I run just a cable on the effects loop I hear noise

[@donharrold1375]

I've got the SV20H. Really enjoying it. It's incredibly loud for 20W! It keeps the transparent Marshall sound with lots of bottom end. Not buzzy and compressed like some other amps.

[@ethansimpson1007]

Have you played a JTM45? How do they stack up? I have the JTM but tempted by the SV20.

[@donharrold1375]

@@ethansimpson1007 No just SV20H.

[@rocknroll1973]

​@@ethansimpson1007I've played jtm45. It's great. Both are great amps. Malcolm Young uses the jtm45

[@sanjay1701]

@@rocknroll1973 Nope, that's Angus

[@rocknroll1973]

@@sanjay1701 nope. Angus uses the super lead plexi. Malcolm uses the jtm45. I'm a massive acdc fanatic, musician, base my sound around Malcolm's, and an even bigger malcolm young fan and done a lot of research on him. I know my stuff.

[@ghairmichaud5765]

Love your amp reviews.. subscribed! Cheers from Canada

[@MrPolevaulter]

Awesome, thank you!

[@paulkielt9301]

I don't like the way the Ibanez sounds with that kind of amps.

[@MrPolevaulter]

I do, but then again that's all subjective :)

[@MW47742]

Hey Elmo, great video. They both sound fantastic. What can you say about the volume? Is the SV 20 really noticeable lower in volume? What about the 5w mode? Thank you.

[@MrPolevaulter]

It is yeah, but it's still quite loud. 5 watts is even lower, but not practice amp quiet.

[@sirbaronvoncount4147]

I had a friend from Finland when I was a child. I remember they were relatively poor but they had a huge sauna in their house. That was odd to a Canadian. I would have put in a functional toilet first. Great people though I liked them a lot.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Have to have a sauna :D

[@jussioman]

They both sound great. The new studio vintage does surprisingly well. And who the hell still thinks people cant play heavy rock with single coils and non-mastervolu amp. :D

[@MrPolevaulter]

Seems to be a lot of that going around. Sometimes the old stuff just works :)

[@DarthPreamp]

You’re definitely in my top ten favorite Finnish person category. :)

[@MrPolevaulter]

Yay, thank you! 😀

[@WFKTHETHIRD]

Very similar...Main difference seems to be the power & how the power section is set up...Amount of air moved by 50w vs 20w....

[@MrPolevaulter]

They are indeed.

[@MohamedFelfel902]

Just to clarify, you are my favorite Finnish person buddy. Thanks for the video. How awesome is the effects loop?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Cheers! The effects loop is super awesome :)

[@GraffitiPhysical]

The classic sound of hard rock. Now I've got to buy another Marshall! Great playing man.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Cheers :)

[@shaniwoods5923]

Loved the demo now I want the little guy I own the 1987x and it will go to the grave with me my all time favorite amp great demo my friend !!!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Thanks Shani! :)

[@jasonulrich3818]

I definitely prefer the tone of the studio vintage in my ears. Great video comparison

[@MrPolevaulter]

Thanks!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Keep the videos coming great stuff dude! I want a low wattage amp that can be used for bedroom practice and small gigs without an expensive attenuator. So what would you recommend for classic rock, blues and metal?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Out of the ones I've tried definitely the SV20.

[@matthajba1075]

Unfortunately for you I have some Finnish relatives, and I'm also a huge HIM fan, so there's Ville and Mige and Linde and Gas and Burton, but you are definitely among my favourite 20 Finnish people. :D Love your demos man. They're funny and informative. And my Studio Vintage Combo is on it's way from Thomann. Yaaaay!!! :) Cheers from Hungary.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Haha :D Cheers :)

[@shughy1]

Can anyone tell me if the BossME80 floor effects unit is suitable to use as a volume controller for the Marshall SV20c, as I heard many say that you may need attenutaor but volume control is almost as good, was thinking of getting effects anyway, so all in one would be handy

[@MrPolevaulter]

Not sure.

[@lyradguitar]

The Strat sound awesome through those amps..the Ibanez kinda muddy sounding in comparison.

[@MrPolevaulter]

A bit yeah. Thanks!

[@Kadotus]

Sorry Elmo but _I'm_ my favourite Finnish person! But I'll buy you a beer the next time I'm in Turku.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Haha :D Don't worry, I completely understand :)

[@manwithnoname6944]

Hi, thanks for the video, do you recall the SV20H settings (PBMTV)?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Probably (in that order): 4, 7-8, 7-8, 6, 10.

[@raymondwalker8794]

Hi there, u mentioned a volume control to keep the gain tone but play at bedroom level…. What volume knob/pedal do you recommend?

[@MrPolevaulter]

I haven't tried this particular one, but I assume it's good: www.thomann.de/intl/jhs_pedals_little_black_amp.htm The one I use is something I got on eBay and it's not available anymore. There are others there you can check out as well.

[@gkol69]

They sound 99% the same! The difference between the 100 Watt 1959 SLP and the 50 Watt 1987x is in the power section. Besides the wattage there is a difference in the rectification section, the current coming from the power transformer is half rectified in the 1987x giving a distinct sound with a little more "sag" compared to the 1959 SLP. But surely the 20 watt version has the plexi sound!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Yep :)

[@guyfromnj]

Hey Elmo, I put some decent headphones on to get the proper sounds and what I heard was very similar but the lower headroom on the 20 made the low end a little flubby with the pedal on. At least that's how I interpreted it. Did you notice that in the room?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Not really, no. But it did sound just a bit darker, although that might have been down to differences in volume.

[@guyfromnj]

Elmo Karjalainen awesome. Really good to know. I'm gonna buy one I think.

[@sirbaronvoncount4147]

Brother is ripping shit up today. Sounds great

[@MrPolevaulter]

Thanks!

[@afterfut9918]

Great video ! You're definitely my favourite Finnish person EVER. I'll buy the 20watts, works great! :D

[@MrPolevaulter]

Cheers :)

[@psychorock83]

would it be enough for a rock/hard rock trio bass guitar and drums ?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Probably.

[@ibaiargueso1589]

Hi Elmo. I love your videos. Have you been able to compare the Marshall 2061x and the SV20h ? I am chosing among them both but not sample of any in my city.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Sorry, I haven't tried the 2061x at all. Which one is that?

[@ibaiargueso1589]

@@MrPolevaulter it is a very simple handwired 20w Marshall amp. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWaunpWJd9mXh8U I am not sure which one I like more. I have not the posibility to try both before purchasing one of them so I am looking for comparisons.

[@David-yl6bc]

I own the 2061x. Its great. To me it looks like the "real" plexis have a little bit more gain. But if you are going to use pedals this does not matter imho.

[@darrylmansfield8608]

Great playing. You play a riff starting at 4:58 to 5:09. Can you tell what song that is? Thanks.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Burn.

[@GarryWan666]

Hello! This is prolly the best "Plexi vs Mini Plexi" comparison video!. So if in a scale 0% to 100%, how close sounding is the mini plexi?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Not 100%. Then again I think it's based on the 100 watt version. But it's close, and REALLY good :)

[@GarryWan666]

Thanks for the reply Elmo! I am currently watching your Marshall origin 5h video, and here comes a question!🤠 How does the origin 20H sound compares to the SV20H? I’ve had the 50H version but returned it for a SV20H however there is barely any chance to play crunch at all since I am living in a apartment. Have you tried them without any attenuator? And which do you prefer? Do you think the SV20H is worth 2x the money of the Origin 20?

[@inakizaldua]

@@GarryWan666 I have the origin 20H and I'm kinda happy with it, but right now I'm considering the sv20h because all the hype around it on marshall forums. Please enlighten us about this, I'll be happy to save few bucks if it's not worth the upgrade...

[@GarryWan666]

I am so happy with the SV20H,it’s much better than my Origin 50H both in terms of quality and feel. U won’t regret getting it, cuz it’s also one of the most expensive 20 Watt head you can buy now days

[@inakizaldua]

@@GarryWan666 thanks! I've put my or20h on sale already. Can't wait for getting the sv20h!!! Damn GAS

[@tristanpaxton51]

Great job man!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Thanks!

[@pedrolourenco2707]

how does the SV20 sounds on 5w mod?

[@MrPolevaulter]

I tried that in the original review, if I remember correctly.

[@chrisdaviesguitar]

Ever tried a Blackstar HT Stage 100? Gotta ask, cause I've got one. Would love to hear your opinion on it.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Sorry, no.

[@richfiryn]

When you bring the Balls to the party you always bring a Marshall. That 20 Watt amp is just a beauty. 3 thumbs up !!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Thanks!

[@thegoldenkniet7802]

Hi, I understand u like the extra power from the 1987x, but which do you think has the better tone, for me definitely studio vintage, before this, from reviews, I thought the 1987x was the best sounding plexi, but now the studio vintage

[@MrPolevaulter]

Not a big difference. If you run the 1987x at full blast, the tone is killer.

[@thegoldenkniet7802]

Elmo Karjalainen oh okay I have the studio and the 1987x, wondering if I should sell 87 as I think the studio sounds better, I have found if u run the studio full blast u can get even better killer tones, despite all that tho, the 87 is a beast

[@jimmyjams1974]

@elmo I love the plexi sound but I assume I would need and attenuator for sure right?

[@MrPolevaulter]

I use a volume pot in the loop. Works great, and cost me 20 euros.

[@jimmyjams1974]

Thanks!!

[@Hallalo]

@@MrPolevaulter can you tell, which one do you use and if the sound keeps the same quality? 🙏🏼

[@markhaggerty1425]

What cab you playing these through Elmo?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Marshall with Celestion Greenbacks.

[@CraigFlowersMusic]

Marshall SV20H best amp fucking ever. Also good playing. Despite the scallops lol

[@MrPolevaulter]

Haha :D Cheers!

[@davidjorgenpedersen8010]

I'm not a Big Marshall Guy, My EVH is My tube Amp of Choice, and Boss/Roland/Waza for Solid State, But You Sound good on a Marshall!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Cheers man :)

[@davidjorgenpedersen8010]

I do Use a Marshall Bottom with My EVH 2-12 Combo and I put A Celestion Rocket into My Boss Katana 50

[@leebryan78]

What cab are you running these through?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Marshall 1960AHW.

[@kladenf03v]

Actually preferring the studio :) to my ears it holds together a bit better but it is splitting hairs :)

[@ronnierazor4302]

I agree, but maybe the speakers are farting out on the push of that 1987X?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Very close, and it might be the speakers.

[@AndyK.23]

Yeah! Yngwie riffs! Awesome demo!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Thanks :)

[@tarkett8529]

Personally I use a valve amp in the studio and profile them in a kemper for live use, that’s why I only got the dsl 20 head instead of the 100W. I definitely want one of those 20W heads though, never had a plexi always loved the sound but damn the 50 and 100W are way too much for my use.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Yeah, even 50 watts is too much for almost anywhere.

[@tarkett8529]

Unless you absolutely need the headroom

[@MrPolevaulter]

@@tarkett8529 Yeah.

[@Steven-zg5bq]

I like the SV.....of coarse anything thru the 1960AHW will sound amazing, its the secret weapon! I playing mine with the mesa boogie 35 head, sv20h, and dsl 100.......this baby really chugs!

[@gabihakler868]

Hello i have a mesa mark v 25 and can you tell me how loud is the sv20 compared to the mesa 35

[@Steven-zg5bq]

sv20 is plenty loud......so is the mesa 35......im thinking of not getting the 1959 slp 100 watt

[@NQR5]

Another great review. Until Kaapo Makko comes to NY Rangers your safe as my favorite Finn.

[@MrPolevaulter]

:D

[@tanshaomala]

What are your opinions on a 1987x with an attenuator vs a Studio Vintage?

[@MrPolevaulter]

I'd go with the 1987x, purely because you have the added power in case you ever need it.

[@ilredeldeserto]

It seems to sound more natural the SV20: it's better than 1987...very strange! Expecially with humbuckers, I have never tried a Universe (that Universe...you are a really lucky man!) so I don't know if the is something strange in humbuckers' Universe. A question about the MXR Dist+ because I see one in background: how it sounds to boost with those 2 plexis? I use it with my SC20C (the JCM800 version) expecially with neck humbucker, I have a Jem555 with Evolution

[@rarefactioncurve6310]

What are the pickups on your "Strat-like" guitar? They seem very quiet (or because of the NS-2?). Your Ibanez Universe sounds amazingly good!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Seymour Duncan YJM Furys.

[@rarefactioncurve6310]

@@MrPolevaulter Ahhh, of course! Are they really medium output pickups? How do they sound when played clean? I never get to play those Yngwie models (they are not available) in this lame city called Toronto, Canada. (nor the YJM pickups, sadly).

[@MrPolevaulter]

@@rarefactioncurve6310 I think I played them clean in this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXrKXp9-h650mc0

[@Paul-dw2cl]

Favorite Marshall: it’s a coinflip between an SV20 and a SLP Favorite Finnish Person: it’s a coinflip between Elmo and Tuukka Rask

[@bisaillion]

Thanks!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Likewise :)

[@bisaillion]

Elmo Karjalainen really great comparison! The studio sounds really fantastic, though I’m sure a lot of that is your own mojo!

[@MrPolevaulter]

@@bisaillion It does yeah :)

[@jeanpat8946]

OMG I like the way you play !!!!! By the way the little sv20 seems good and very loud !!!!good news for your ears !!!!!!!!

[@MrPolevaulter]

Cheers :)

[@mrscary3105]

I think you may be my favorite Finnish person. (Finnish best drivers in the world )

[@MrPolevaulter]

Haha :D Cheers!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Holy cow dude that face you make playing the mini Plexi tells all that you favor the Studio Vintage!

[@MrPolevaulter]

I actually ended up selling it. I still prefer the added power of the 50 watts. I just couldn't find a use for the mini Plexi.

[@pAtTs024]

could you do this on jubilee? studio and its big bro the 2525x btw. nice content:)

[@MrPolevaulter]

I don't have a Jubilee, and at the moment money is tight. I would love to do it though.

[@johncartelli]

i have a jtm45 but would like a smaller version...would the SV20H be a good choice or the Studio Vintage Silver Jubilee 20 watt be better?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Probably the SV20, but I haven't tried the Silver Jubilee 20. I did use to have a 100 watt version of it, but that was ages ago.

[@AngelLeppard]

“Your favorite finnish person” 🤣

[@MrPolevaulter]

:D

[@bear8903]

don’t worry elmo , your my favorite finnish person

[@taxo]

Noce, but give me a Ceriatone any day of the week.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Whatever floats you proverbial boat :)

[@NMMShred]

Ill see the light tonight is definetly my favourite yngwie riff. although my favourite solo is the first one in now your ships are burned

[@MrPolevaulter]

Cool riff and solo :)

[@JohnDoe-xr5is]

Quit whacking off on the fret board and show off the difference in the amps.

[@OrkhanJulfa]

What overdrive pedal for boosting did you use with humbuckers?

[@MrPolevaulter]

Fender Yngwie Overdrive.

[@OrkhanJulfa]

Thanx! @@MrPolevaulter

[@cvo5166]

I love the 1987X also for its "almost" cleans. Think Jimi (yeah he used a 100W with KT66's) The SV2O has them also, yet some less headroom. But as I am not playing gigs anymore, the 1987X gives me eardrops, it really hurts my ears at volume 6, even at 4 . And playing with an attenuator, is also a little like driving your car with the parking brakes on. I am really considering treading my 1987X in for a SV20H. Thanks Elmo for the review. Show it to your country fellow Erja Lyytinen.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Sadly I've never met Erja.

[@KelsterVonShredster]

You need the Waza Tube Expander....trust me. It works great with Marshall amps!

[@cvo5166]

@@KelsterVonShredster Thanks, I have a Waza Tube Amp Expander in the meantime. So great for many applications. I fully agree. So glad now that my 1987X is still in my collection.

[@KelsterVonShredster]

@@cvo5166 I'm so excited, I'm getting mine tomorrow in Montreal !!!!! I sold my 100 watt handwired plexi as it was a beast and I think I prefer the slightly more agressive '87x, but I havn't owned one yet so I will find out tomorrow if I made the right choice!

[@davedynamite77]

I like when you make mistakes...

[@MrPolevaulter]

I do too :D

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

No fair- overdrive pedal is cheating hehe

[@MrPolevaulter]

:D

[@No-vm7go]

Skwissgar.

[@GenerationGap69]

I worked with a Finnish guy 30 years ago, he couldn't play guitar but he could drink a lot, in fact he was shit face most of the time I knew him

[@MrPolevaulter]

Haha :D

[@davidledford6482]

why dont they just make these with a master volume,an save everyone the trouble etc..very very dam pricy amps

[@MrPolevaulter]

Quality costs.

[@Fletcher883]

There is no master volume that works well on this circuit.

[@Fletcher883]

@MarkKiddGuitar For a start the 'Rich mod' is just a PPIMV, and I've tried pretty much every option, the PPIMV is amongst the worst as it interrupts the global negative feedback loop which means it sounds anemic unless the volume reduction is very slight. PEC pots are a false economy as well, being sealed they are un-serviceable. Great in the desert, awful in pretty much any other application. There are matched dual gang pots from Bourns and others that are much longer lasting. Try slaving an amp with a PPIMV (cranked) and compare it to without slaving and with the PPIMV turned down. The difference is night and day. A PPIMV also doesn't allow for clean use of effects like delay and reverb whilst slaving (or JCM800 type masters) do.

[@rorycunningham5457]

Because a non master volume amp sounds way better and has a lot more balls anything else?..ha.

[@mrchrisbeaver]

I just put a volume pedal in the send return on mine. Instant master volume

[@hkguitar1984]

Hot playing, wax melted out of pickups......................Seriously though, great playing. As for which I prefer, I figure if your going to be a bear, be a Grizzly (go big). The 50W 1987x offers a little more headroom over the smaller version, of which most people (myself included) can't/won't be able to take advantage of. Amplifiers like this are an expensive investment, especially when you add cost of a speaker enclosure. However, for the lower price, yeah this makes sense for a person who doesn't want or can't spend the extra cash for the bigger more powerful 1987x. I would like to add, when your in a music store that has amplifiers piled up to the roof it is really startling when you get one of these home and see how big they are! Either amp with the speaker enclosure it's like putting a washing machine or oven in a room. For married men, these amplifiers don't really match any carpeting or furniture, so there is that part of the equation to consider (I'm just saying). I have a 1987x and unless I''m a good 20 feet away (6.096 Meters) most anything will take off with feedback when using an Overdrive. Playing a Marshall dimed is not for the faint of heart, thank you for enduring this punishment for our enlightenment/entertainment. I would like to also add, I've heard people praise the quiet operation of humbucking pickups for decades but never though the minor hum of single coil pickups was an issue or a problem. It wasn't until I purchased a proper Marshall and started playing it loud, really, really loud that it became painfully apparent why humbucker pickups are such a big deal. Yeah, the noise of single coil pickups can get crazy out of control. Great video, again thank you. BTW, my Son gave me a set of Erasers earplugs (www.earasers.net/) for Christmas this year, I highly recommend them.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Thank you very much :)

[@BirdRockSoul]

Shhhhhhh just play

[@dickfuckmcguff7640]

Dude. This is not a good demo. Nobody cares about your chops. Demo the amp.

[@MrPolevaulter]

Speaking for everyone now? You have a high opinion of yourself.

[@davedynamite77]

Why did you say your Scotish....

[@MrPolevaulter]

To confuse people? :D