Zero Suit Samus Matchup Chart - Smash Ultimate 9.0.2 by Marss

[@natecatt2539]

Shoutout the editor for putting the music for the character he’s talking about nearly everytime!

[@jesusFMA]

I agree! Quality content right here

[@jsteel7903]

Dude facts, Ultima (I’m sorry idk how to spell it) is literally the best editor I’ve ever seen

[@milos1967]

Why does marss seem so much more professional in this vid? I can't even imagine seeing this Marss saying "Cheeto fingers".

[@revalone3944]

watch his tier list video

[@sethnewton9063]

There's streamer Marss and Top Player Marss. This is top player lol

[@franciscofernandez5385]

This is bath salts marss.

[@uselesscamel5360]

@@franciscofernandez5385 we got glue marss and bath salts marss

[@TenThousandTacos]

12:58

[@bigdeebo0425]

This tier list is just how hard marss feels like he has to try in each matchup

[@zsoliddanys1083]

This makes more sense than the actual MU chart.

[@grantbruno5942]

Trash girl is carried by its main

[@Creepo_J]

*Now he will try.*

[@Bladieblah]

Literally my thoughts when I went over the list, Sheik -1 and Joker -2 is hilarious. Joker might be -1 but probably even, Sheik might be even but probably +1 for ZSS

[@dombromflump627]

Most of the characters she loses to are top tiers which is usually a bad sign for the characters viability. Which is why I am placing zss in f tier

[@mintmayo7574]

I don’t even play zss but marss is fun to watch

[@WorldWendell]

Same

[@El6abriel]

Nobody does, he’s that fun for all of us

[@hyb002]

Very true

[@nathanbolima4934]

90% of us don't

[@cdose]

Tf does that have to do with watching marss 💀

[@galaxystealth7652]

"I would like to fight more Sonics." I never thought I'd hear those words. Even of u mean offline.

[@abhishekchoudhury7]

Marss: uses the word flabbergasted "Yeah I'm pretty damn smart"

[@BrandonSallinger]

LET'S GOOOOOO ALL -2 MATCHUPS BABYYYYYY

[@aydenlyndon3274]

dont forget how the ganon mu is -3

[@holyfrackledang]

both my chars are understandably +1 but I love getting styled by zss so it’s okay

[@bassy9524]

i like getting kicked by blonde girls in skin suits too man.

[@holyfrackledang]

@@bassy9524 hell yeah

[@fenn2665]

This feels like the most honest Marss has ever been about zss

[@ColgatetheTogekiss]

“Hold that, you’re playing mewtwo” is the most accurate statement I’ve heard as a mewtwo main.

[@Zoronii]

Of course Marss in all his chaos would do the matchup list in random order. But thank you whoever put timestamps in the description :)

[@jacobalexander5139]

Omg seeing this after watching esam and mk Leo tier list where they literally gloss over characters with no debate or reason this is like sweet nectar

[@girafee3454]

Bro I dunno about that... for the mii characters he barely said crap... and that’s the only one I was paying attention to because I’m a brawler main

[@twistedxxninja]

Is it the same thing tho? Tier list it makes sense but this is a matchup chart so he explaining why he thinks they matchup that way. Pretty sure Esam has done a matchup chart for pikachu and it was way more in depth than his tier list.

[@cesarTorres-lj1df]

@@twistedxxninja you want to know about the match up spread of pika that Esam made? For real, it was about 40 min of pika busted and 10 minutes about Ness and G&W beeing ridiculus contraresting everything Pika is good at

[@sleepi8454]

dude but imagine if zss was top tier tho

[@onionbjr]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH no

[@ethancover4893]

That joke isn’t funny she’s bottom tier -__-

[@zsoliddanys1083]

She is.

[@kerb__]

Mayb if her fair worked bair killed a bit earlier and flipkick was a move she could be actually good

[@alexholmes8714]

KERB flipkick is like the best move in the game

[@sansanabanana]

Can't wait for your Doctor Mario matchup chart

[@tuckermccabe9471]

No reason to its all +2

[@sansanabanana]

True, didn't think about that

[@plestern08]

I thought doc was the best character in the game why is he +2

[@GamerplushMaker]

Can’t tell if your memeing

[@AbsoPS]

@@GamerplushMaker he’s right

[@shuatock8216]

For those who don’t understand Marss, even means favorable matchup, +1 means really good matchup, and -1 means even matchup

[@chordalharmony]

I’m gonna be honest, I read the -2’s as losing, and the -1’s as a hard even

[@Marcus-uz1mr]

Roy - 1:40 Peach/Daisy - 2:14 Cloud - 3:03 Banjo & Kazooie - 3:54 Lucario - 4:59 Diddy Kong - 5:58 Joker - 6:54 Bayonetta - 7:49 Marth - 8:47 Lucina - 9:29 Robin - 10:46 Byleth - 10:53 DK/Little Mac - 11:02 King K. Rool - 11:27 Fox - 11:40 Incineroar - 12:56 Snake - 13:10 R.O.B. - 13:58 Ryu/Ken - 14:30 Toon Link/Young Link - 15:04 Samus/Dark Samus - 15:49 Mega Man - 16:29 Wolf - 17:35 Ness - 18:44 Mr. Game & Watch - 18:58 Captain Falcon - 19:29 Pokémon Trainer - 19:47 Ganondorf - 20:03 Ridley - 20:08 Piranha Plant - 20:15 Palutena - 20:58 Pikachu/Pichu - 21:27 Simon/Richter - 22:38 Greninja - 22:53 Sheik - 23:41 Link - 24:32 Falco - 25:25 Zelda/Dr. Mario - 25:57 Bowser - 26:23 King DeDeDe - 26:56 Terry - 27:13 Mario - 27:24 Ike - 28:10 Steve - 28:45 Min Min - 29:24 Inkling - 29:57 Bowser Jr. - 30:55 Chrom - 31:26 Luigi - 32:08 Wario - 32:48 Shulk - 33:13 Ice Climbers - 33:31 Hero - 33:46 Duck Hunt - 34:27 Sonic - 34:48 Mewtwo - 35:32 Lucas - 35:55 Wii Fit Trainer - 36:34 Pit/Dark Pit - 37:04 PAC-MAN - 37:26 Kirby - 38:07 Villager/Isabelle - 38:20 Olimar - 39:04 Jigglypuff - 39:48 Meta Knight - 40:26 Rosalina & Luma - 40:42 Corrin - 41:22 Yoshi - 41:48 Mii Fighters - 42:31

[@mayolover23]

marss is so cool

[@abstral7192]

Eh, I like Neptune better

[@bdawg8930]

Yeah he is

[@mayolover23]

@@bdawg8930 yea!

[@kalebthompson6068]

It's because he's a masher

[@BaconBreath]

I miss Pluto

[@grantbruno5942]

Can we talk about the konky dong dittos that need to happen with Little Z

[@trebhum_]

ASAP

[@tylerm.8684]

Done

[@10XSeiga]

Solid match up chart and well explained

[@jacobalexander5139]

I do think big link is a +1 for zss. He actually can’t atk zss or push advantage, she’s just too fast. He has a rly big speed problem and zss takes the most advantage of tht. If zss gets defensive or has a lead his only option to move her out of a corner is bomb, anything else can just get dash backed. The boomerang is a good anti air but most of the time it’ll be used to keep zss away and be too far away to get killing or damaging combos. He may kill early in this matchup but has little ways of dealing dmg or pushing advantage, even off stage. And when it comes to a defensive stale mate zss will just nuetral him to death. -I’m an educated and subscribed btw

[@Shionfromyt]

As a fox main, I agree with this placing for him because if neither character gets neutral in the match up, it can go either way.

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

I really wonder how marss has a lot to upload every day and not get tired or run out of ideas.

[@jacobalexander5139]

Ur a champ for not milking this like a 1200lb cow. I’m happy to get content I can sit down and enjoy.

[@jaxsonfanta5420]

EDITOR HATS OFF! I hope you got paid overtime and pizza for this one!

[@mpregsonic5874]

Zss was that character that no matter what I did, she didn’t quite click with me until very recently. Marss taught me I need to have a brain, instead of just mashing mindlessly

[@GamerplushMaker]

Bassically every character In the game

[@raheshramesh413]

@@GamerplushMaker chroy and bowser beg to differ

[@GamerplushMaker]

@@raheshramesh413 no they dont

[@cesarTorres-lj1df]

@@GamerplushMaker Little mac, Palu, Cloud, Mario, G&W, etc. Objection

[@GamerplushMaker]

@@cesarTorres-lj1df nope they dont

[@AlanFreshCutz]

I’ve been waiting for this

[@silvesta5027]

Marss underrated his character too much man. Like this feels more like ‘how hard do I have to try when I fight this character’ more than an actual matchup chart lmao Ask any Inkling, Pichu or Joker player if they have a +2 matchup (60:40 is a very significant advantage) what are they gonna say? Or ask a Cloud, Diddy or Sheik player on whether they beat Zss - what are they gonna say? I love Marss - but he’s just like Samsora when it comes to matchup charts...

[@ghostfire1192]

To be fair, Space did put ZSS in winning in his most recent mu chart. Probably not a -2 but still winning for Ink

[@silvesta5027]

@@ghostfire1192 Yeah I agree, but that’s kinda my point. Like Zss still loses to a lot of those characters but not as badly as Marss is saying, at least when you compare his opinion to other top players. Somehow I doubt Leo or Cosmos are gonna turn around and be like ‘yeah, my character easily beats Zss! +2 matchup for sure!’

[@ghostfire1192]

@@silvesta5027 Yeah I'm unsure whether this is Marss's true opinions or if he is still doing the ZSS sucks bit

[@RamikinHorde]

@@silvesta5027 he said at the beginning that -2 is 40/60 that's really not that dramatic of losing

[@silvesta5027]

@@RamikinHorde Umm yes it is??? 60:40 is a significant losing matchup. Zss has arguably no -2 matchups

[@dhruvsolanki5073]

Last time I was this early, ZeRo was still a publicly accepted figure

[@Derr1ck3]

Oof

[@johnfree4705]

Marss saying "adiós" :0 I'm ready to die.

[@Jesuslovesyou4evaneva]

I honestly think that lucas does as good as ness in the matchup just because he doesn't have to deal with any tech situations due to his floatiness. His fair is unpunishable, and makes zss explode at 110. Tho dealing with her mobility sucks. That's why I think the matchup is even.

[@skyshoesmith6098]

Yeah science!

[@Vivythebadgirl]

fun fact:a dog and a duck are more heavier then zero suit samus

[@thedickening9880]

An organized list on who Mars has had to try against in the past.

[@xanderhansen7461]

Watching this video right after the first to ten vs elegant😳

[@AlastairBL]

Good stuff man! You’re definitely an inspiration. I’d also like your feedback, as I’ve made a MU chart for her on WiFi and would love to hear your feedback on it if possible. I know it’s a long shot to ask, but it’s worth doing so if you’re willing to give feedback :)

[@EbolaBearr]

Review one of chippys tournament games with chippy. e.g. his smash and splash set vs neku (wario) ZSS should be at the bottom of the tier list?

[@EbolaBearr]

More chippy funny joke

[@tinyturtle1515]

This video was made by a Marrs from an alternative universe where zss is actually good

[@Elvim832]

This post did not age as well as it could have.... looking at the + 2's..

[@Rainier214]

Im surprised MK didn’t get thrown into +2 cause like every MK including myself thinks it’s our worst MU by far and we can’t do shit most of the time lol.

[@SmokesOnMe]

Honestly I don't think MK at +1 makes much sense at all. He said it was because they have a similar playstyle or something... But what I think that really boils down to is that she just outright wins so many interactions where MK would normally be in his wheelhouse, that he has to change his game-plan significantly to stand a chance.

[@lucamogliazzi4596]

If you just put a time stamp at 0.00 calling it “intro” the time stamps will show up in the video slider.

[@Maxtimesamillian]

10:52 oh how I miss the simpler days...

[@ethanbaker905]

Luigi at +2 And yet Garbage Girl is no match for Elegant's Luigi

[@matrix_ssb7110]

Marss putting Lucina even and Marth +2 is really weird if you think about esam literally sayin Marthcina top players really have different opinions

[@doxazo5512]

can't wait for pgstats to come out so we can see what the matchup charts REALLY are

[@genericgary7293]

The -2 should be -1 and the -1 should be -0.5. ZSS is really good at playing aggressive, rushdown while she can also play campy and passive so she will never be fully out of luck against characters and have a completely losing match up. Great mobility and flip jump which is basically I-frames in a can

[@rosemaryemberseso7667]

I agree. Calling wolf zss a -2 is quite hyperbolic. Play wolf dk which is actually a -2 and you realize what a -2 actually feels like.

[@zsoliddanys1083]

And some of the even are on her favor.

[@tetrio1317]

DAMN MARSS IS KINDA SMART

[@SuperLitFam]

I honestly don't think Ridley vs zss is that bad of a matchup, if Ridley is able to play very patient and call her out for her options and get her offstage he has a chance. I think it's +1 zss favoured

[@VinMann]

Wait what was the point of this doesnt she loses to majority of the cast

[@chugsfromtriad]

The only character she beats is Steve but only if he doesn't craft

[@Pm3m_Dia]

This is the MU-chart if her moves would actually work.

[@jaxpayne1465]

It’s pretty impressive that he won genesis seven with a 3 stock against not only the best player in the world in general, but the best player in the world with joker which is a -2 matchup. Truly an underrated smasher and an inspirational player

[@oliverkatzman7862]

Questioned: "your also a real character meaning your not a plus +2"

[@innerbeast415]

As a Robin/Byleth player, I can confirm that these matchups are absolutely miserable.

[@Nowel22222]

as a yoshi player i think the mu is even but -1 is reasonable

[@rafikirana2468]

yoshi players think many things

[@brockb6942]

I remember when nairo shmixed marss with robin

[@laurents4015]

How da hell does ZSS not win a match up more than 6-4? many low and mid tier players would love to have your number :)

[@Takumi_Yo]

This is thee most accurate tier list for ZSS, especially knowing how amazing Mars plays this character

[@oliverkatzman7862]

"Funky factor"

[@tearzofthefallen6586]

Really the only thing I don't agree with is Marth. I think that matchup is even. Semantics, I know, but if you have an optimal marth playing an optimal ZSS it's gonna be a bit rough for both parties. You can catch late Fairs with ZSS fairs and zairs, you can punish dancing blade float with side b off stage and on stage if you space it right. But Marth can catch late nairs and use uptilt to call out empty hops, upsmash for flip jump and his back air has just enough disjoint to beat zss backair. Marth is woefully underrated because of his tipper mechanic being harder, but it just incentivizes Marth players to play more reserved and reactive, which most people don't do because it's not as fun. One day a patient Marth is gonna come around and make everyone go "Oh yeah the character is really good, he's just harder to play" which is absolutely a downside, but affects that character's ranking and not necessarily his match ups. The potential is there, it just has to be tapped.

[@ColgatetheTogekiss]

Yeah but the marth just has to do so much more, meaning it’s harder. I personally think it’s +1 but eh

[@eragon78]

@@ColgatetheTogekiss I could see +1. I always found it silly how people think Lucina is like 4 tiers better and leagues better than Marth. She's better sure, but its really really over-rated how much better she is. (or rather, how much worse marth is)

[@MelinskaS]

It’s funny how Chippy still struggles so much even tho both Joker and Inkling are -2 for zss

[@MelinskaS]

@bananapalmtree Did you not watch the video?

[@silvesta5027]

@@MelinskaS I’m sure he did, but maybe he disagrees with Marss. I mean... I sure can’t imagine any top Joker or Inkling players saying they have a +2 matchup against Zss lol

[@ghostfire1192]

@@MelinskaS Even if Joker and Ink are -2 (which they're not, closer to -1), mu charts assume equal skill, and Marss has more skill than Chippy

[@shijima_ending]

definitely a scuffed mu chart, just going on with the meme that zss sucks. neither of those are -2 i bet

[@letsmakeit110]

@@shijima_ending ye pretty much just +1 to every char and you have the actual matcup chart

[@Bingus_mcgee]

"egregious hotboxes" Educated marss is here

[@VanGoobendorf]

How can you be this wrong? Her only even matchup is herself, she loses -9 to every other charakter

[@loadedleader1794]

Dang my main got called stinkypoopoo

[@JordanICM]

What's considered advantage and disadvantage state in this game? Somehow I don't think it means the same thing as in Street Fighter.

[@daleanmonster3567]

Advantage is mostly if you're in a better position then your opponent, for example, you are ledge trapping them, juggeling them, at center stage, etc, or, for example, luigi's advantage is really good because he can combo and kill you easily when ge gets in your face, but his neutral (both players having distance, trying to hit the other player) is kinda bad and disadvantage means too. Disadvantage is off--stage, at the ledge, being above your opponent etc. Its kinda hard to explain, sorry if this isn't clear.

[@JordanICM]

@@daleanmonster3567 That was a good explanation, thanks.

[@darknessdevil2657]

I'm glad Marss put Pokem Trainer as -2 for ZSS. He lost to Tweek's PT in Low tier city, Big house, and smash con.

[@eragon78]

I mean, to be fair, this is also Tweek. Just because marss lost doesnt MEAN its -2. I mean, Samsora struggles vs tweek too but peach doesnt lose to PT -2. Same goes for most of the other top 10 players. Otherwise, every char would lose to joker like -2 or worse just because basically nobody beats Leo.

[@darknessdevil2657]

@@eragon78 well if the best ZSS says it is, I don't see why I should doubt him. He is ranked 4th on the PGR now.

[@eragon78]

@@darknessdevil2657 I mean, top players disagree with each other all the time on what match ups are. Like I doubt Tweek thinks the MU is +2 for PT. Its probably still losing for ZSS, but -2 just seems like a bit much.

[@andrewrubinshteyn2796]

The only thing I got from this video is that because Marss thinks game and watch is not broken because it’s a good matchup for zss, means that zss is broken despite what he might say :)

[@dougstatz1427]

As a fellow trash girl main, I'm pretty happy that my personal thoughts matched up pretty well.

[@nextos]

Oh shit, he's handing out the good stuff

[@adamyohan]

I hate your pfp

[@kiiseanrobinson5084]

Captain falcon is top 3 for speed in this game. What do you mean?

[@e_t1799]

Thx for Time Stamps,dude.

[@tacticalpotato7923]

Zss is the hardest solo main in s tier change my mind

[@ByoKora775]

How much better would hero be against ZSS if you take into consideration accelerattle

[@ColgatetheTogekiss]

It isn’t consistent at all. When is ZSS gonna let hero use accelerate

[@BlisteringBlue42]

Zss is trash, every matchup should be -2. On a serious note, does anybody know if the -2 matchups are ordered? I think Shulk is her worst matchup but idk if Marss thinks Joker is her worst or if they are all the same in terms of difficulty.

[@zsoliddanys1083]

Her only realistic -2 is actually Shulk, he is inmune to boost kick and nair flip kick.

[@BlisteringBlue42]

@@zsoliddanys1083 Boost Kick I can understand, does Shield art make him resistant to nair flip kick as well? Assuming he activates it after he gets hit by nair but b4 he gets hit by flip kick?

[@zsoliddanys1083]

@@BlisteringBlue42 Yeah. Activating shield during hitstun removes kill set ups completely. Best way to kill Shulk is with raw KO options and ZSS is kinda lacking in that area.

[@cesarTorres-lj1df]

@@zsoliddanys1083 also Wolf is a -2

[@zsoliddanys1083]

@@cesarTorres-lj1df Not even close.

[@franciscoromero2913]

Hi editor

[@yoshter135]

I’m not a top player or anything, but I do think Gunner does better against ZSS than the other Miis. That’s anecdotal experience though, so I guess it’s pretty biased

[@snuff5416]

We need another light to come back

[@Tonjit41]

19:00 genius

[@Tonjit41]

28:54 genius part 2

[@Sidney_TSG]

Please make a video on how to deal with this stupid character, I dont get it

[@wakatoshi6480]

I don’t actually disagree, but I wish I did so that Marss would have to acknowledge me

[@Goggy.96]

I think basically if they die to nair flip kick early or easily it is a good matchup

[@captaincoconut3222]

I trust someone who's won Genesis 7, as someone who hasn't my opinion is shit. SHIT LIKE THE PERSON WHO READ THIS COMMENT AND ISN'T SUBSCRIBED TO THE Marss KZbin CHANNEL, WHERE YOU CAN STAY UPDATED ON HOW BAD ZSS IS! Anyway, thanks for the input on her match-ups, surprised she has any +2's that arent little mac.

[@JD-og2yq]

This Is so accurate it’s scary

[@sparking2718]

Why is zero suit doing a ben 10 pose in the thumbnail?? Edit: Nvm that’s supposed to be zss scratching her head

[@AMidwestern]

One thing i feel doctor mario does have against zss, is his up smash, which gets predictable and inconsistent. But yeah, the match up sucks for doc

[@formestaken]

Hey marss, you're wrong because I subscribed.

[@ohianaw]

As a Luigi player I can confirm ZSS just puts us away in that MU. its been bad since brawl

[@reper6237]

Hey, one of the 5 icies mains here. I think its probably +1, but I'm not some unwavering fool. Of course, I'm no top player but I've fought ZSS's at my level and even just above my level and of all the top tiers it does not feel that bad. ZSS is light and actually scraps with icies which is what we want so I've never felt it is as oppressive as a -2. though I'm sure that depends on your definition of -2. you might call Pikachu and snake a -3 for us and then sure i guess ZSS would probably be -2. The whole target switching thing is a point nobody brings up though and if it is a -2 THAT IS WHY. keep up the good content, best ssbu channel rn.

[@alexg959]

You should fight Blucas!

[@kyle_bearr]

incineroar is -2 because its illegal to hit a cat

[@shijima_ending]

i can’t cap this is a pretty horrendous mu chart for a top 5-10 character 🤨🤨🤨

[@mostafaahmed9430]

If marss sees this I hope he plays against dark wizzy at some point

[@Awkwerp]

Corrin being so slow Im surprised she doesnt get thrown into +2

[@Jay-qc9lj]

Marss has the same opinion on ZSS that Samsora has on Peach

[@zsoliddanys1083]

A really laughable one.

[@zake64]

Nah, Marss is a lot more reasonable imo. Sam has Peach losing to like half the cast lmao

[@jakestolworthy2869]

wait zss has winning matchups??

[@taylorpatton3072]

I am curious why Pikachu is a negative 2 when esam struggles so much against you. Like you would think that the results of the top ranked Pikachu vs the top ranked zss would match where it sits on the match up chart but its kinda the opposite. Doesn't make much sense to me.

[@eragon78]

to be honest, I think some of these match ups arent quite as hard as Marss put it to be. But its really hard to say.

[@RamikinHorde]

Honestly, despite being so good, ESAM plays super dumb a lot of the time and definitely has pre-tilt vs players that beat him often...so it's honestly hard to say just based on their Vs record

[@doxazo5512]

why does it have a Dabuz logo

[@jackanderson368]

he owns the website

[@ohianaw]

this comment made me laugh

[@OrashiTV]

Interesting tier list. PS: Terry isn’t a shoto (ex. Ken, Ryu, Akuma, Gouken, Sean, Sakura, etc.)

[@ColgatetheTogekiss]

Yeah but it doesn’t matter

[@nickdayton1777]

Makes joker a -2 matchup.... Delivers the dowtown pound town on chippy at all times

[@zake64]

Don’t worry, Chippy just throws for content

[@Amaling]

Is it just me or does Sheik have a fantastic MU spread against top tiers?

[@BlackEndsWhite]

sheik good

[@zsoliddanys1083]

Just you. Sheik doesnt beat ZSS btw.

[@kek8695]

I thought it said 7 months ago not 7 minutes ago and was hella confused

[@Mepphy99]

13:05 you broke my Heart with that Bro

[@bionicallyacomputer292]

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