Martha Argerich,Liszt Funerailles

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Ranan Chan

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@kostasaxillios3003
@kostasaxillios3003 3 жыл бұрын
I just love the way Martha presses the key with her thumb at 7:14, then looses it, and all of a sudden she just supresses it again without producing any sound!!! I find it quite funny to be honest, and for me it's a sign of spontaneous playing, and of a tremendously highly functioning nervous system as well... Love you Martha!!!
@OriginalBasaliskos
@OriginalBasaliskos 14 жыл бұрын
Such a gorgeous melody.
@stevehendrix9625
@stevehendrix9625 8 жыл бұрын
The great Argerich. The moment when her left hand goes from the single notes into the octaves (round about 6:50) is extraordinary.
@durugultepe4218
@durugultepe4218 3 жыл бұрын
it sounds a little like chopin’s heroic polonaise at that seconds too.
@ronl7131
@ronl7131 2 жыл бұрын
Woooohooooo 🚀🍻
@eyalurim
@eyalurim 7 ай бұрын
​@@durugultepe4218that is by design!
@colin_rose
@colin_rose 14 жыл бұрын
those octaves...oh my jesus...
@petrospalaskasmusic
@petrospalaskasmusic 12 жыл бұрын
She doesnt stay close to the sheet music (at least my version , Cortot) and it is a bit fast for me...but i cant disagree that her technique is flawless and it is a first-class interpretation..! :)
@manosapo6588
@manosapo6588 3 жыл бұрын
Όντως, είναι πολύ πιο αργό απ όσο το παίζει
@sebastian-benedictflore
@sebastian-benedictflore 3 жыл бұрын
We all came here to see the octaves
@ElsaBouet
@ElsaBouet 13 жыл бұрын
WHY is there always some people who dare to say that this genius plays badly and should listen to their advices ? People, if you don't like it, if you can't hear it wonders where others hear it, it's just no use to open your mouth. LOVE this piece played this way.
@khiyanurvallikad6431
@khiyanurvallikad6431 3 жыл бұрын
If you rotate your hand side ways you will find that the distance between the thumb and 5th is the same as the thumb and 4th and the thumb and third (So if your span is 9 notes it is easy to play octaves with the the 4th or 3rd!) Most hands are like this! So if you rotate sideways sufficiently you can do the same 9th with fingers 5, 4 , or 3 as well! Therefore that does not mean she has large hands!
@pianistofmusic290
@pianistofmusic290 4 жыл бұрын
I love the ending.
@juanchiviris1
@juanchiviris1 11 жыл бұрын
she's singing with the piano
@theyvanmcgregor
@theyvanmcgregor 7 жыл бұрын
Vibrational Healthy Restoration Much gratitude:)
@FranciscoNogueirafranzonwave
@FranciscoNogueirafranzonwave 12 жыл бұрын
I Fucking love Martha, she always touches me so deep as any other in piano...
@RyanChanOrganist
@RyanChanOrganist 14 жыл бұрын
Argerich is a strong woman......Try the octaves yourselves and you'll result in muscle pain ^^ This is simply cool......
@valeriekuhn3746
@valeriekuhn3746 9 жыл бұрын
Please make the sound louder on this. I have my speakers full blast and I can barely hear it. The is my favorite.
@williamwoolf8072
@williamwoolf8072 11 ай бұрын
use noise cancelling headphones
@jojesty9151
@jojesty9151 8 жыл бұрын
To Valerie, FYI. There are still things called amplifiers. I listen in my noisy woodshop with a Heathkit amp (built myself 40 years ago!) and 30-yo Advent speakers. Old amps and speakers should be really cheap (try Craigslist, EBay?), and *much* better than using PC speakers. Any amp will connect to the 3.5-mm stereo ("headphone") output on any PC, using a cable with a pair of standard RCA ends (Amazon, etc.) Anyway, Argerich is unique, wonderful, and sometimes (appropriately) maniacal!
@kemmiller1
@kemmiller1 8 жыл бұрын
Where was this recorded? I've seen many of her solo recordings wearing this same red dress and I wonder if it was all the same session and time.
@alanleoneldavid1787
@alanleoneldavid1787 3 жыл бұрын
It's a 1977 live recording and she plays schumann piano concerto, and some ravel piece and then this piece. It's complete on the max Lima channel. He has a lot of Martha Argerich recordings
@MrGar11
@MrGar11 Жыл бұрын
6:53😂
@ethansaltmere
@ethansaltmere 13 жыл бұрын
@marcohorowitz8 yeah but dont listen to the bit after that! 7:28 is so insensitive!
@summerdawn6777
@summerdawn6777 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@NiPaVou
@NiPaVou 14 жыл бұрын
small hands? i dont think so... playing the octaves with 1-3 fingers...
@akelofgren9468
@akelofgren9468 4 жыл бұрын
Before composer got the credit, nowadays just pianists
@pqiojsqdklnads3861
@pqiojsqdklnads3861 4 жыл бұрын
yep
@pianofan24
@pianofan24 14 жыл бұрын
is she playing the octave trills from 0:46 to 1:22 with her thumb and 3rd finger? how large are her hands?
@rigel48
@rigel48 4 жыл бұрын
She can stretch a tenth. Chord LH : C-G-E (Chopin 4th ballade) Chord RH : A#-C#-E-A#-C# (Chopin Prelude N° 7)
@nicolaspachecoarango
@nicolaspachecoarango 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know for other but my 1-5 span and my 1-3 span are not that different so I don't think it is as huge as you may think
@duartevader2709
@duartevader2709 7 ай бұрын
I can reach an 11th with 1-3 and 12th with 1-5, having a flexible hand is enough in my opinion
@ethansaltmere
@ethansaltmere 14 жыл бұрын
@forgottenbooks no - shes playing with a high wrist to control the sound better - and take the arm out of the note to create a cleaner more lisztian sound. stress on the fingers is only applied when you tense your arm muscles - which i guarantee you argerich isnt doing.
@silviasantos4215
@silviasantos4215 8 жыл бұрын
Escuchen esta obra interpretada por Arrau y comparen.......
@MartinVanBoven
@MartinVanBoven 4 жыл бұрын
There's no comparison; Arrau is a master, and outwordly good in this piece. Argerich like so often doesn't have the foggiest what to do, musically, and decides to just tastelessly hammer herself through the piece.
@silviasantos4215
@silviasantos4215 4 жыл бұрын
Martin ... tienes toda la razón en tu comentario... Saludos Cordiales
@ritabustamante8447
@ritabustamante8447 Жыл бұрын
Arrau es excelente no digo que no. Pero para mi Martha es única. Obvio sin restarle meritos a Arrau que también es fantástico.
@monkeycover9205
@monkeycover9205 Жыл бұрын
@@MartinVanBovenenvy
@billylee2390
@billylee2390 4 жыл бұрын
I think her technique is brilliant, maybe the best in the history. That's why I don't get easily impressed by anyone's Prokofiev concerto 3 except for hers. Also she has a large reportoire specializing in romantic and Russian music. But I think some composers like Mozart or Brahms somehow don't fit in with her style. There's not any pianist who could play all kinds of composers well. For me, her Schumann is my favorite.
@stefanbernhard2710
@stefanbernhard2710 3 жыл бұрын
In her prime, she doesn't hold a candle next to Hamelin or Volodos.
@rigel48
@rigel48 Жыл бұрын
@@stefanbernhard2710 That remains to be seen!
@chairrest35
@chairrest35 11 жыл бұрын
IT"S NOT A SONG!!!! Please can people stop calling pieces of music songs? It's a song if someone is singing.
@mistor_Robert
@mistor_Robert 5 ай бұрын
It's a good song
@RyanMacMcC
@RyanMacMcC 13 жыл бұрын
If you have a problem with her interpretation, post a video of your own interpretation and show us how it's done.
@duartevader2709
@duartevader2709 7 ай бұрын
This is such a dumb take, srsly, this is classical music, it doesnt work like that
@salahhamze
@salahhamze 4 ай бұрын
Yes, and if you eat food that tastes bad, you’d better be able to cook it better or your opinion is meaningless. Skill ≠ Taste PS Martula is the Queen
@iOnlySignIn
@iOnlySignIn 14 жыл бұрын
@pianofan24 I'd say her hands are surprisingly small, which makes her technique all the more amazing. Just compare her fingers to the keys. Her hands are much smaller than most pianists, male or female.
@pianofan24
@pianofan24 14 жыл бұрын
@sebustienus Really? Even for people with small hands? My maximum reach is 9 notes and that is with my hand completely flat ("pancake flat") and I can reach octaves with the 4th finger with extreme difficulty - any thoughts on what I should do?
@JoseAPerez-nq9vu
@JoseAPerez-nq9vu 4 жыл бұрын
Great piniast, of the best in the last 60 years. It's a real pity the sound is so poor.
@youresomodest
@youresomodest 13 жыл бұрын
I get all giddy watching her use that LH thumb of hers within the first minute. I don't know why.
@petervonberg2711
@petervonberg2711 9 ай бұрын
Yes, she can play fast.
@summerdawn6777
@summerdawn6777 5 жыл бұрын
🌪️🌪️🌪️🌪️🌪️🌪️🌪️
@roarcer
@roarcer 13 жыл бұрын
Solo de escuchar el incio mejor ahí le dejo..¿Por qúé tantas veces Martha Argerich toma tiemmpos TAN RÁPIDOS? ,,,,¿por qué vuelas, nena?
@ulisescenturion7455
@ulisescenturion7455 6 жыл бұрын
por que puede volar
@OverFjell
@OverFjell 14 жыл бұрын
Regardless look at the huge muscle mass on the sides of her hands, I've never seen them muscles so pronounced, even on people like Horowitz
@r.i.p.volodya
@r.i.p.volodya 9 ай бұрын
I find the central 'battle scene' to be too fast for the music, too clipped to no purpose; it's supposed to be a fanfare.
@a.echave
@a.echave 10 жыл бұрын
Dat klaxon at 4:28
@norbertherterich4750
@norbertherterich4750 10 жыл бұрын
Rhythmus? Töne? Hallo? Gibts mal EINE/N, der das Stück ungefähr so spielt wies dasteht. Und besonders bei dem Orgelpunkt-Teil n bisschen weniger Pedal nimmt...?
@chairrest35
@chairrest35 11 жыл бұрын
Fine but the piece of music isn't a song. It's a bit like calling a novel a poem.
@brandon485
@brandon485 13 жыл бұрын
@afertyus1000 yeah! xDD, but I think it's middle/ring finger?? o.O
@ramybounou2005
@ramybounou2005 4 жыл бұрын
both
@OverFjell
@OverFjell 14 жыл бұрын
@wnxg4nd4lf I can play octaves with 1-3 but can't even reach a tenth 1-5..
@ДарьяПыхтеева-ц7ы
@ДарьяПыхтеева-ц7ы Жыл бұрын
1:54 ГП 4:00 ПП
@r.i.p.volodya
@r.i.p.volodya 9 ай бұрын
Isn't her opening tempo too fast to be funerial?
@Fritz_Maisenbacher
@Fritz_Maisenbacher 12 жыл бұрын
le mort vit encore et le vit du mort est en vie qui n'est pas mort
@Viflo
@Viflo 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry Martha, maybe the recording was sped up, maybe the volume was a bit off at certain moments but the interpretation itself was beyond horrible. I mean, if you compare the lacrimoso section to Volodos or Kissin, it's like comparing Bentley to Lada. I mean if you listen closely to 5:35 , you can actually hear the piano crying "WTF are you doing to me"
@richardvolpe7664
@richardvolpe7664 6 ай бұрын
Why on earth would she choose such an inappropriate opening tempo which does absolutely nothing to "set the mood" for this piece? It should be slower, more ponderous in character - - how could she not feel it?? And the later "octave" section is played, as nearly every 'virtuoso' pianist does, at too fast a speed, robbing the section of deep, dramatic effect. That's the thing about Argerich: despite all the musical felicities she's more than capable of producing, there are just too many instances (in her extensive repertoire) where her interpretations would be enhanced by less frenzied, more judiciously chosen tempos. Yes, I'm well aware of how impressed and excited her fans tend to become when they witness these "feats of super-brilliance" that she delivers so effortlessly, but perhaps if these fans were willing to take an honest, close look at the purely musical aspects of the works she's playing, their judgment might be "tweaked," at least to some extent.
@drrabner47
@drrabner47 3 ай бұрын
Maybe it should be you who takes a good, honest look. Her interpretation is more exciting than any other mentioned. Volodos….boring. Arrau too slow. Or we can ask Mr. Liszt who he prefers.
@richardvolpe7664
@richardvolpe7664 3 ай бұрын
@@drrabner47 Since I get the feeling that you're a proud member of the "Martha can do no wrong" camp, it would foolish of me to try to sway you, or to question, for instance, what you mean by "a more exciting performance." In any case, any serious listener and lover of classical music who has even a smidgen of familiarity with the so-called Romantic styles of Liszt, Chopin, Berlioz, Schumann, to name just a few, would sense that her rendering of the all-important opening section of this rather pictorial work is perfunctory, conjuring up nothing that would even begin to suggest what it is. . . a funeral procession.
@drrabner47
@drrabner47 3 ай бұрын
@@richardvolpe7664 I highly suggest that you, with all your degrees should contact Ms. Argerich and give her some music ‘tips.’ I’m sure it would be greatly appreciated by her and she could learn much from your experience as a performer.
@richardvolpe7664
@richardvolpe7664 3 ай бұрын
@@drrabner47 In general, I like Argerich's playing (I own several of her CD's), and just because I pointed out a couple of glaringly obvious oddities in her rendition (from many years ago) of this piece, you felt the need to dig into your little bag of sarcastic, biting comments. Musicians frequently re-record works, and I should hope that her present-day interpretation of Funerailles would display a more convincing understanding. So why don't we stop wasting each other's time over this? Besides, Martha's expecting another call from me. . . I have a few more nifty music 'tips' that she can hardly wait to hear about.
@leobecker7255
@leobecker7255 2 ай бұрын
What is truly ridiculous is trying to argue about whose interpretation is best or trying to claim objectively that one particular version is not valid… music, and art in general, is a matter of taste and interpretation. You can enjoy one take, hate the other, but they both have a right to exist and be appreciated by different people. To say that « any serious listener and lover of classical music » should despise one interpretation is - to be blunt - slightly haughty. You can argue that it does not follow the music sheet - in which you might be right - or the composer’s original intention - and even then, considering as none of them are alive, that would be a rather hasty assumption - but music is made to be reinterpreted. If everyone were to play the same music the exact same way, what a boring world this would be.
@Chicken_for_Aesculapius
@Chicken_for_Aesculapius 3 жыл бұрын
5:40
@VivaRenata
@VivaRenata 14 жыл бұрын
@Christian170978 Right on target. Fine technical proficiency but no sense of rubato and thereby no understanding of the drama of this composition. Unfortunately, I haven't found a recording of Arrau playing Funerailles here.
@enmago1982
@enmago1982 11 жыл бұрын
No! Martha, questo pezzo nel 1977 non era per te; forse eri ancora troppo giovane. Niente sentimento, partenza troppo veloce per ostentare la tecnica e inesorabili stecche in arrivo. Liszt non perdona.
@Qwerty-hj1ml
@Qwerty-hj1ml 9 жыл бұрын
In effetti, non fosse per quelle ottave mostruose questa interpretazione sarebbe stata presto dimenticata.
@SuspiriaRosso
@SuspiriaRosso 6 жыл бұрын
Potresti suggerire qualche versione ottimamente interpretata a tuo avviso? Grazie!
@jojowisa1270
@jojowisa1270 3 жыл бұрын
Does she want it to end this desperately that she speeds through every slow section like a firetruck ablaze
@nicolaspachecoarango
@nicolaspachecoarango 3 жыл бұрын
It's possible Martha doesn't really like live performing (that's why most of the time she plays concertos or piano trios...).
@ElsaBouet
@ElsaBouet 13 жыл бұрын
@wagneristhebest "Many people" don't have the truth. And I do know a lot of recordings. You hear technique, I hear much more. Argument is useless.
@douglassmith7750
@douglassmith7750 11 жыл бұрын
Dedicated to Frédéric Chopin...many similarities to the Aflat Polonaise
@mazeppa1231
@mazeppa1231 10 жыл бұрын
This was not dedicated to Chopin -_- It was dedicated to three people who died in the hungarian revolution
@douglassmith7750
@douglassmith7750 10 жыл бұрын
mazeppa1231 says on my manuscript
@mazeppa1231
@mazeppa1231 10 жыл бұрын
Douglas Smith Really? But I have a CD recording of Arcadi Volodos performing this piece and on the description, it says Liszt dedicated this piece to the people who died in the hungarian revolution.. o.O
@douglassmith7750
@douglassmith7750 10 жыл бұрын
mazeppa1231 I dont doubt you and I am not a musicologist...will read up...I am aware of the wars during that time ..thanks
@mariselaiii
@mariselaiii 9 жыл бұрын
+Douglas Smith I study music in college and we were talking about this piece in the music history class and I found out it's about the Hungarian Revolution. Yes there's similarities with the Chopin Polonaise and maybe Liszt was thinking of Chopin when he compose this piece but as far as I know Funérailles was not really dedicated to Chopin.
@ethansaltmere
@ethansaltmere 13 жыл бұрын
@RyanMacMcC Try listening to Zimerman's version of this. Krystan Zimerman. This is how it is done.
@hectordanielcarvalho2809
@hectordanielcarvalho2809 7 ай бұрын
Yo admiro a Argerich pero esta grabacion no me seduce. Prefiero la version de Arrau
@azraelpapagalovic7249
@azraelpapagalovic7249 11 жыл бұрын
I agree with those critical of this performance - right from the beginning I thought "Oh my, this is just bad." And there are great Argerich performances other than this one. I guess technique means absolutely nothing if you don't try to breathe life into music.
@vvlcliszt
@vvlcliszt 12 жыл бұрын
pas assez funéraire...
@aryanpianist
@aryanpianist 14 жыл бұрын
not my pianist !
@dido93
@dido93 13 жыл бұрын
Argerich is always great and she's a unique Genius, but after hearing Bolet's rendition and depht.....it's difficult to like "other funerailles"....!!
@cantkeepitin
@cantkeepitin 6 жыл бұрын
dido93 Go for Zimerman, he is beyond everything.
@beecolor
@beecolor 13 жыл бұрын
It's a very bad version of Funerailles !
@ethansaltmere
@ethansaltmere 13 жыл бұрын
@Sylbao It's not to many peoples taste, obviously. Maybe you should try listening to other recordings, and typing english that's legible, before making a comment like that. This is a really poor performance of a great liszt work - Argerich could never do the really deep stuff. It's got nice things, but nowhere near the intellectual depth and emotion that it should have. Great technique, but not much else, is what I say about Argerich.
@MartinVanBoven
@MartinVanBoven 7 жыл бұрын
"All get on the Funérailles Express!!!" What a shockingly uneven and empty rendering of this grand piece. It seems no music is safe in the hands of this woman.
@owengette8089
@owengette8089 2 жыл бұрын
yeah no music is safe because she erases all the terrible pianists who defile composers’ graves in her successful effort to perform the best recordings imaginable
@posthocergopropterhoc9202
@posthocergopropterhoc9202 2 жыл бұрын
There's a moment in one's life when one is peacefully scrolling through the comments of one's favourite rendition of an excellent piece when one stumbles across something rather odd: a 4 year old comment. Now this comment may be old, but its contents are just something extraordinary. Of course one would be surprised; one would have just found an atrocity: hate against the one and only Martha Argerich -- the horror! There seems to be only one reply adequate enough for that which one has just found: Fuck off.
@ngaiofleming1894
@ngaiofleming1894 Жыл бұрын
@@posthocergopropterhoc9202XD I couldn’t believe the comment when I saw it either 😂
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 жыл бұрын
6:53
@nariko2481
@nariko2481 9 ай бұрын
6:12
@babygirl4169
@babygirl4169 6 ай бұрын
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