Martha X Mayberry: Fanservice Done Right???

[@SarcasticChorus]

Thoughts on Satanist X Homewrecker?

[@AfroSpartan]

Hot af 😂

[@rinlikestraps2485]

Mayberry aint a homewrecker 😭

[@hybridvenom9]

E

[@TalktotheGlyphwitch]

@@AfroSpartanI second that

[@TitusSmith-i6r]

I ❤️ it, it's hawt as hell.

[@ralunix4612]

I'll explain the husband as: Till death does us part. I died , we parted bye.

[@Lucylle]

I came here to say this.

[@Soluna7]

This is my favorite interpretation

[@jeepmega629]

That's so fucking funny

[@Fight20er]

You literally summarized half of the video in 3 lines XD

[@juliaboskamp9666]

Yeah i think he and the kids blame Martha for there death and he left her and took the kids with him (it may not be out of caracter because he immediately went to his kids after she got shot a second time)

[@Wildcard120]

“The teacher decided to give her students one last assignment…trauma . This assignment can be turned in to their therapist at their convenience or be used 20 years later to explain why they don’t believe in marriage “. Priceless.

[@ivarramirezpaulsen8212]

👍

[@achingforstrength]

2:06 💔

[@KOKICHI_IS_ALIVE11037]

Yep

[@danielferrieri7434]

I want a Helluva Shorts on how and why Mayberry and Martha started living together.

[@j.corbygaming]

We are getting 3 shorts before Ghost fuckers in October, so maybe

[@JettPinckard-v4b]

YES

[@TrentonDoucette]

A fan theory says they were already together on earth but were hiding their sexualities In public and the guy that cheated either was being used as a cover for miss Mayberry or she got mad that her partner was seeing someone else and Martha was the cheater she was refereeing too when she attacked them.

[@draskopopovic9543]

​@@TrentonDoucettethat theory is riddled with holes

[@TrentonDoucette]

@@draskopopovic9543 I know I just wanted to share it even though I know this was most definitely was just fanservice.

[@daisy-he9vz]

“they killed and skinned people, but they did it TOGETHER” love this line 😭

[@KOKICHI_IS_ALIVE11037]

Same lol

[@Rainbow_Parrot64]

Reminds me of 'They hated him for his T-boy swag and also the killings'

[@MiraTheWarlock]

There is a theory Martha's cheating is due to her being the families 'honey trap', luring victims to their home. Hook up with them a once or twice at their place, then get them home and butcher them. Hence why the ginger was going to town on her in her house

[@kelj3901]

Yeah but also least be honest ....as senn in current real world... explicit extra activities are par fore the course with this stuff. Also the thin line between love and hate them of the episode. Not to mention Martha being a manipulator by nature turning emotions against a enemy is typical. Mayberry has nobody in he'll she is more connected to than Martha. Also they Martha family are in their dream right now probably out creating ...adding to mayhem. Mayberry was there but nothing says she lives there as booty calls are more common than long lasting relationships.

[@katywinterfox3.0]

And she waits for her girlfriend to call so they could kill the victim aka the people they were married to

[@MiraTheWarlock]

@@katywinterfox3.0 I think they prefer to lure them to their own house. As they live very isolated. So plan might've been to get railed by Gerald..but then get him home with her

[@xFantasy_]

When I first saw the two, my jaw literally DROPPED to the floor. Can't believe a crack ship actually became canon, its like Viv listened to the fandom and delivered

[@pedanticat9479]

I wish she would instead listen to the valid criticisms about HB and take that more into account

[@aaunyea4799]

I legit had to rewind, my jaw dropped 😂

[@xFantasy_]

@@aaunyea4799 SAME, I was like, "yo hold up, is that Ms. Mayberry i see???"

[@DarkXWolf17_MD]

HuskerDust is also a crack ship that became cannon.

[@fandomonium3789]

It's not the first time. In Ozzies, the crack ship of Josh x Ace (verosikas male employees) became Canon. Hell, in this same episode, Josh and Ace were standing in front of Jesse when Blitz apologized. In fact, Josh is the person Blitz was standing on.

[@cinnabunz1532]

The joke actually got me because Blitzo didn't say anything he just smiled and I loved that

[@seeleunit2000]

He had a right to

[@anancapcat4221]

"You like Martha, don't you Mrs. Mayberry!"

[@59slayer]

“From Mrs. Frizzle to Mrs. Fem Fatale” the funniest thing I could have ever heard here.

[@seeleunit2000]

Lord help us if there's fanart of Mrs. Frizzle being the hot girl

[@Beanzoboy]

@@seeleunit2000 Fan art? She was the hot girl in the series.

[@FlameJackstar]

I just wanna point out how absolutely fire Mayberry's demon design is, I didn't really notice it in the first episode. Simple, striking, elegant. Pretty much a Tiefling, which I highly appreciate.

[@the_ghost_boy]

fr, it's perfection, I also just am in live with the skin color they chose because it's so much less aggressive than most of the skin colors of demons in this show

[@splegoon4289]

The shortest kid in the family with the racoon hat looks like he was ripped straight out of Captain Underpants.

[@Nightlymyraid808]

Yeeesssss thank you lol

[@Boom1324-v6y]

This is one of the helluva boss ships that I never would’ve guessed would happen

[@torablack]

ikr! I was so not expecting it.

[@TheRealMariobrine]

I honestly never considered this ship as a possibility.

[@renegadedjinn5325]

Honestly I see it going either way. Like they clicked and are friends or in a lesbian relationship.

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

EXCELLENT WORK. SARCASTIC CHORUS HELLUVA BOSS MARTHA X MAYBERRY

[@toadlord8594]

It was a crack ship at best.

[@filipporomor8140]

9:51 Martha died before them, she probably doesn't even know they died, thinks they're still alive, and so she decided to create a new life

[@alexcat6685]

9:39 heres the more accurate timestamp and yeah if I remember she died like minutes before, so that would be enough time for her to assume or have Hope her family is okay so she moved on in acceptance of her death, though still we should've seen that for character reasons.

[@filipporomor8140]

@@alexcat6685 yeah, i mean she died with Moxxie piercing her eye with a bullet, her family died later killed by the Police

[@adolfodef]

Headcanon Accepted. . Martha likely believed that ANY of the victims she & her family have killed, mutilated and/or eaten could have had sent I.M.P. [she may also suspected about Mayberry, but she would not be "targeting" her specifically]. -> Since Mayberry actually attempted to kill Martha (as a human, in life), it would not be much of a surprise that she would try again after becoming "a demon". . Mayberry got a lot of data about Martha´s life while in Lucifer´s Ring; likely including about her "hobbies" (murder, satanism & cannibalism), possibly from one of her victims. She likely deduced that Martha would soon "spawn" as a sinner just like her & that she would eventually gravitate towards the "1930´s neighborhood" (populated exclusively by cannibals), were she would be able to locate & meet her eventually.

[@Argosentral-88]

I’ve always thought hell would have a level of displacement so not everyone just appears at the same area in hell and cause they weren’t together when they died they spawned somewhere else

[@filipporomor8140]

@@Argosentral-88 nah from what I've understood you just spawn at the middle of the Pride ring

[@M4x4r0ni]

My major take is that the husband and kids did take what Moxxie said to heart & went on to try changing their ways even while in hell together. Because Wifey wasn't there during Moxxie's speech she didn't agree to these changes & went on to live in a cabin as close to the one she lived in while alive, indicating that her values have remained the same.

[@mittag983]

Good theory

[@jonathanmakeley8048]

Yeah, that seems plausible.

[@felwalkr_94]

Wait… What if we see them going to the Hotel???🤔

[@keithharrissuwignjo2460]

@@felwalkr_94 Legal problems might prevent that

[@felwalkr_94]

@@keithharrissuwignjo2460 yea good point.

[@racookster]

The ship was just "Rule of Funny" like everything else in the Apology Tour montage: "Any violation of continuity, logic, physics, or common sense is permissible if the result gets enough of a laugh." Loo Loo Land still being in ruins and dead agents still being scattered around the room where I.M.P. killed them didn't make sense either, but the scenes were funny.

[@mkthatartist7979]

Honestly, this ship deserves a Helluva Short

[@NoHandle44]

I'm your 100th like. Enjoy.

[@chaosholle5760]

​@@NoHandle44im your first like enjoy

[@TheDJdragonflame]

I laughed my ass off and wrote it off as Martha and Ralph absolutely being the type of people that would take " 'Til death do us part" completely literally. And he'd be the one that would want to keep the kids

[@mittag983]

My favorite theory

[@freddyP300]

I just assumed Martha and her husband were in an Open marriage, it would fit their vibe

[@GlitchBoy-ws5in]

Not really "He cheated on his girlfriend with me, I didn’t know about her until now" happens a lots, Martha belike "Damn, I thought you were a random Psycho, you deserved better"

[@Salza02]

@@GlitchBoy-ws5inI feel like Martha knew about the relationship between the teacher and her husband. Also, Martha cheats with another man after becoming famous.

[@faith4657]

​@Salza02 she cheats with everybody, and I think her husband is aware of it too, maybe. But all I have to say is that she belongs to STREEETS

[@sugarbirb5145]

I feel like for an cannibal family, martha sleeping with possible victims fits. Either husbands comes in and shoots them in jealousy and they have weird fight/makeup sex and then cannibalize or Martha seduces their meals and gets them to be tired for the kill

[@GlitchBoy-ws5in]

@@Salza02 No... I mean like Her husband lied to her as "Psycho Ex"

[@isadewit914]

"Is somebody gonna match my freak?" is basically their vibe.

[@mlphero1232]

As a fanfic writer, I love crackships because you can do some crazy (and often funny) shit And seeing one of my favorite crackships actually end up being canon is kinda cathartic lmao

[@ВладиславЗгурский]

You're disgrace to all fanfic writers.

[@darknessrising2453]

9:33 Okay, there's actually another possibility that no one has talked about here... and that's the idea that the family is still alive. HERE ME OUT. Keep in mind that they were aware that Moxxie had called the cops on them. And while we see the house get blown up, we don't hear any dialogue aside from one line from the cops. So for all we know, in the time it took Moxxie to call the cops and head back to the portal, the rest of the family could have grabbed just the essentials and booked it before they showed up and the cops were just extremely trigger happy. Yes, we do see what's left of the teddy bear gets flung at Moxxie, but none of their actual remains. So we could just assumed the little girl dropped while fleeing. In short, it's possible that only the mother died while the rest of her family is just laying low, that's my two cents on the matter.

[@vithayartheppalard2417]

That's possible 🤔

[@RedSquareCow]

i feel like the rest of the family was separated from martha, so they never found eachother in hell. pride is a huge place.

[@Zigg8833]

Hazbin showed that there was cannibal town, I had always assumed that's were the whole family ended up but maybe Ralph and the kids live there?

[@jonquilgemstone]

I think their change of heart before dying at least got the kids to Heaven. Maybe even the dad, especially if he only took that path because of Martha. I mean, Molly was born and likely raised in Angel Dust's family, but she got into Heaven.

[@benjaminallisonii724]

@@jonquilgemstone This is really great way of thinking about it. I feel like this makes the most sense based on the canon things we've seen.

[@howdoichangemyusername9802]

@@jonquilgemstoneI doubt it. Maybe try’s last thoughts before committing suicide were the students. And as she said, she appeared to live a life acting good the entire time and yet that slip up cost her to wind up in hell. I doubt Martha’s family is living it up in Heaven.

[@artistanthony1007]

Umm it's not, the official trailer for Hazbin reveal the center Pentagram City is so small and surrounded by a Ring of Spikes, Pentious makes it clear the Pentagram is the city and it's not even as big as one thinks, there's not even any Forests which is a shame because I pictured Al owned one but the official reveal of none killed any creative ideas, we don't have anything else.

[@chilliicecream5456]

I love Viv’s dedication to crack ships. First Pen x Cherri, now this. All we need now is Stella and Striker hooking up and we will have completed the unholy trifecta

[@AmaraTheGreat-18]

that would be funny as hell, if also toxic as hell since they both hate each others race.

[@adolfodef]

[Actually]: That would make sense: Stella could not get her proper "revenge", then she got curious about "why" he did it...

[@GrayAsh476]

Just to point out. Pen x Cherri was never a crack ship. Too many people ship it for it to be considered a genuine crack ship in the fandom community. Not trying to stat anything, I'm just pointing it out.

[@stalinsoulz7872]

​@@adolfodefI think Stella and striker might work. It's a good parallel to blitz and stolas. Both start off as contract. While stolas happened because blitz used it as a bargain. Stella might cause of curiosity. "Why did my cheating pathetic husband done it? I know it's spite but maybe? Then bam... " I see why the fuss about and how addictive it is as some fun debauchery since it can be put to blame stolas in the eyes of the goetia nobility.

[@chilliicecream5456]

@@GrayAsh476 I’m talking about the pilot days. There was an entire sub community of people who wanted to see them together, when literally all they did was fight and insult each other.

[@bloodybee3553]

I can 100% imagine the family all living with Mayberry. The kids get a second mom, or maybe they just see her as like the fun new adult in their lives, and I can definitely imagine Ralphie either joining the ladies, or getting off watching them

[@BlueBlazeKing]

True, Martha and her husband definitely seem like the polyamory type

[@bloodybee3553]

@@BlueBlazeKing I would love if there had been some kind of easter egg of them just having a pineapple sticker on their car or something 🤣

[@garg4531]

Very wholesome idea. I like it!

[@garg4531]

@@BlueBlazeKing They really do

[@Anti-Gravity.]

I love that! And Mayberry was great with kids (until she wasn’t). I’m sure she wouldn’t mind having the children around

[@thornowl6368]

you gotta start writing fanfiction. genuinely. your media analysis and theories are the best i've ever seen, and i watch *a lot* of video essays. i bet your stories would be amazing

[@RinneganXyz]

My headcanon is based on where in the timeline hazbin hotel occurs in comparison to Helluva Boss as the kids and husband could have been with the cannibals defending the hotel against the angels at the end of Hazbin season 1

[@PhantomAngelofMusic]

I feel like Miss Homewrecker (I'm not gonna try with the names) and her hubby found each other in Hell, realized that their vows were "Til Death Do Us Part," and decded who was gonna take the kids. Amicable split.

[@jiado6893]

I would love a conversation between Stolas and Martha, relating over how they found new love, and they don't know how to present this new person to the children of their previous marriage. Particularly when the kids already view the new person (Blitz and Mayberry) as the ones responsible for tearing apart their old lives.

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@jiado6893 Stolas and Martha bonding would be even more wild than the ship, and yet it would be a neat way to address the Loona and Octavia situation of Blitzo and Stolas if they ever get serious. Granted, that elephant is like, the seventh in a long line of things that need to be addressed and sorted before Stolas and Blitzo can even consider working as a healthy relationship, but it is something that would come up eventually, and it would be awkward. As I said in a previous comment thread, does Stolas even know Blitzo has a daughter, or would he be just as surprised to realize Octavia might have a step sister?

[@jiado6893]

@@gregvs.theworld451 I'm sure Stolas knows about Loona. Blitz doesn't hesitate to show her affection in public, and when they went to Los Angelos he plainly said "Now let's go find our daughters." What I DO wonder though, is if Octavia would be confused about Blitz, an Imp, being Loona's dad. Demonstrating how her upper-crust rearing makes her a bit oblivious to how classist/racist that might be. At the very least, she would be confused Loona kicked her dad in the crotch that one time.

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@jiado6893 Given that Oct thinks Blitzo is stealing her dad away, I hope that them hashing it out in some way and becoming square with each other on some level is something HB will address eventually.

[@waltertalked6689]

Can we please talk about that Stolas was judging blitzø that he looks down on him and never apologize, but Moxxie and Millie saved his ass and he (probably) never thanks + doesn't even rimember their names.

[@TruthKeepersOfficialHD2]

I mean, he never reffered to them by name and never asked their names. Ever. And in Loo Loo land he even complained that it was them and not Blitzø coming to save him

[@kennethsatria6607]

@@TruthKeepersOfficialHD2 Good lord he actually isn't free from his upbringing

[@wuba5456]

@@kennethsatria6607 Apparently Vivzie said Stolas will end up getting close to the rest of IMP later though so that's good news at least

[@waltertalked6689]

@@wuba5456 gues your right ^_^

[@Zakvadr1995]

@@wuba5456I can see Stolas joining M&M on a theatre date/ go to a show! Also, when he realizes Loona has read his book back to front and probably could help Olivia!

[@p3chv0gel22]

I love how vivzie judt went "Screw this, crackship it is"

[@seeleunit2000]

Sometimes you just need something fun

[@tristintaylor8155]

Aka fuck we ball

[@victuz]

Right? It really came out of nowhere.

[@NurHiedaya]

Fr ever since the loona and Octavia episode, i feel like the whole show is a fan service ngl 😭😔 ​@@victuz

[@alexcat6685]

I hate it because it basically represents her problem almost perfectly, Fuck storytelling, fuck characters fuck meaningful themes I do what I want when want because I said so. And thats just not very intersting espically due to how ironically Limited she made herself because her views are so meh, she forgot to actually focus in like 70% of her world building so fundenntal ideas like in the human world are imps at risk at all? Are never explained so it results in alot of confusion instead. Limted where they can go despiee sinners being all over the world, what about those they sent to hell hunting them down?. Juststop goes into greater detail in his video on Helluva bosslbut basically Vivzie refuses to hire someone to keep track of her ideas so she doesn't constantly mess it up.

[@Builder-jl3kh]

This is the definition of that one meme “Hey, can I get “Martha x Mayberry”?” *laughing* “Oh, sure.” *wait what.mp3*

[@MarMonkey2606]

10:05 This is actually a very true statement, satanists only use Satan as a figurehead. It's the actual devil worshippers, that you want to look out for. One of my coworkers is actually a satanist and has a genuine witch for a girlfriend, the dude's stupidly chill and I haven't met the girlfriend yet but from what my coworker has told me she's a delight and my coworker himself is a really nice and pleasant guy to talk to, despite looking like some kind of hipster punk. I would actually count him as a friend if we hung out more, or you could say he's a work buddy I guess.

[@TheCommenterDragon]

Even though I can understand why some people disapprove of this ship, I for one am hoping we see more of these two in future episodes! I mean it would definitely be interesting to hear their story and what lead to them hooking up off screen, Because it shows that even after they die IMP's former clients and victims still have a story to tell in their afterlives.

[@kennethsatria6607]

No rules in hell!

[@faith4657]

That is true, I can see a spin-off from Helluva's boss. "Life if the damned".

[@amiano59e4]

a spinoff of a spinoff? ​@@faith4657

[@27Bayleefs]

Gonna get some slack but I honestly don't understand how or why this is a a thing. Mayberry hired I.M.P to Kill her and joked about it. Martha ruined her happy life. These two being together Makes absolutely no damn sense.

[@Sly-Moose]

Does "Til death do us part" mean nothing anymore? Even if that didn't happen, y'all already know that dude watches. XD

[@dantereinhardt6911]

Honestly, I am almost sure the family is still together. But the father and kids are probably just out doing stuff together while the mom ducks. Cause I think they wouldn't want the kids seeing that.

[@chongwillson972]

@dantereinhardt6911 what if the family was redeemed and went to heaven?

[@dantereinhardt6911]

@@chongwillson972 Unlikely, also the requirements to actually get into heaven are pretty sketchy given the events of Hazbin Hotel. Whichever the case, we do know they were cannibals and cannibals have a special place in hell for them so they almost definitely didn't.

[@seeleunit2000]

Seems like it

[@lizlefay3262]

​@@chongwillson972 I can believe that the children went up to heaven because they were in a fuck3d up family and normalize many things that shouldn't be seen as normal like mvrd3r and c4nnibal1sm, but at the same time the rules in heaven are black and white that's the whole point of the Hazbin Hotel that maybe some sinners lived in fuck3d up situations and they messed up so maybe some of them can be redeemed and if both series are in the same universe which makes me think that maybe the kids went to hell anyways

[@ourlordandsaviorsquirtle3278]

​@@lizlefay3262just confirming that they are indeed the same universe

[@jakoblent4694]

like both of them died got double as hot as before and then decided their husbands ain't worth shit

[@samuraibear5102]

Wouldn't martha be the ain't shit one here. Girl was constantly getting her box beatin

[@jakoblent4694]

@@samuraibear5102 maybe hell dick just aint as good?

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@samuraibear5102 Nothing inherently wrong with a woman who likes a lot of sex. If her and her husband didn't have a problem with it, what's the issue?

[@spectre9340]

​@@samuraibear5102for good reason. Have you seen her?? She's hot AF Both as a human and as a demon

[@somerandofilipino6957]

Martha seemed happy with her husband tho

[@devingendron2287]

12:50 I just noticed the gift basket is like...90% cheese. And I wonder if that's a reference to the BLM charity stream when Brandon Rogers was eating cheese in the middle of the stream or just a random thing.

[@VideoMatoran]

I still can't believe they got shipped because... well... they freaking ruined each other's lives.

[@Rinzeki02]

Yeah. It’s shitty ship, people only wanted it for hots

[@golbez1583]

Crazy crackpot idea: The kids & the husband ARE in heaven; the idea being that what lands you in heaven/hell in this universe isn't how you lived your life, but rather the LAST thing you did in your life. So b/c Mayberry's last act was a murder/suicide, she landed in hell; and b/c the husband & kids' last act was one of repentance due to the 2nd chance Moxxie gave them, they landed in heaven.

[@jonquilgemstone]

I theorize it's less to do with final actions than with the state of your inner heart at the time of death. This still explains both Mayberry and Martha's old family, but it also explains the old rich guy from the episode the CHERUBS were introduced in. He didn't die doing anything evil, and he probably hadn't had the energy to do anything evil after his health declined, but he was still a greedy, ruthless person at heart.

[@golbez1583]

@@jonquilgemstone yeah this kinda works better tbh.

[@Emo_landrynka]

I love how it was just a gag and fandom went overboard adoring this ship!

[@rachel1248]

I said it when I saw the episode and I’ll say it again: it’s the distracted boyfriend meme’s full story and I am so down for it it’s not even sane 😂😂😂

[@0racle.sunrise3570]

LOL that's true 😆😆😆

[@vertiac]

I get the impression Ms. Mayberry had a very sheltered life up until her death, which explains why she snapped so hard when she found out about her husband cheating on her: nothing she'd been through before had prepared her to deal with something so shocking to her wholesome worldview. And now she's stuck in Hell for eternity because of one bad day, forced to confront and explore the dark side of herself, her capacity for anger and hatred that she never even had to acknowledge during her life. It seems natural then that she would seek to understand someone like Martha who absolutely revels in corruption and depravity. That's my theory anyway. At this point we can only speculate on the nature of their relationship.

[@CastOfCharacters13]

When I first saw those two in the new episode apology tour I was like this is gonna raise a lot of questions. No so many questions.

[@NyxieeeeeNyxie]

The whole family thing doesn't make much sense to me "Till death split you apart" and all of that yk? They died and have no obligation to eachother anymore

[@mythicalclouds5731]

I mean Carmine had kids and is still with them .

[@Sly-Moose]

@@mythicalclouds5731I always assumed Carmine's kids were Hellborn-

[@NyxieeeeeNyxie]

@@mythicalclouds5731 We don't know if they are her actual blood children, for all we know she could have adopted them in hell itself.

[@Lowdian]

That they no longer have an obligation to be together doesn't mean they wouldn't want to. Flaws and all, they were clearly a happy family that cared for each other and I don't think dying and going to hell changed that.

[@birdmcturd1626]

I love the implication that you can divorce or cheat in heaven because those vows only last to death.

[@moononthewindynight27]

I am 90% sure that they're poly and Mayberry just crashed at the house that night

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

Me and a friend agreed that the Husband seemed more interested in the kids and so he probably took the kids if he isn't around. And it could be that they agreed to split amicably, he obviously wasn't an abusive/possessive husband. They could share custody and just live like normal divorced adults. 🤷‍♀️

[@Silver_Spectre]

I was watching with a friend and he immediately said “The husband is definitely in the Sneako chair” and I can’t unsee it

[@JackFKennedy1987]

I watched this ep with my friend and when that scene showed up I just screamed I KNEW IT I FING KNEW IT so loudly that her parents had to come upstairs so check on us

[@funkermonker6485]

I think more shows should include these insane fan realities in the background of episodes. Not focusing too much on it but sprinkling just enough to excite the community

[@alexcat6685]

Not if it's really stupid and ruins important aspects of the series. It still takes away so much pointential mayberry would've had as a character, she's sinner who is a good person just more justyfiably grouchy, in contrast to the more selfish and downthrown individuals in Hazbin hotel, with no longer being fueled by spite or as much she now is sort of more lifeless than she was. Though thats more that one as helluva boss it about the buisness, so her developed should small details. Basically I despise bad writing as it can completely taint things, fanships or fan realities should only be included if they're good ideas. Like they do good job adding concepts. Like one I do agree would work amazing for hazbin hotels humor and themes is Sinner Khight paladins of the holy order, who work like Charlie just way more brutally convicing. That idea works with the world building and adds to the show, being so good I ask why Vivzie didn't think of it(theres alot she didn't think about). Compared to this dissapointment, it's mainly due chemstry wise makes no sense, makes previous information go to waste and just ruins both characters as a result. It doesn't feel like fitting Irony, it feels like your validing from certain flawed fan's flawed ideas.

[@funkermonker6485]

@@alexcat6685 listen, i really couldn't give less then two tiny rat shits about this ship. Whether it completely deminishes these one off side characters entire arcs or makes them a more interesting present part of the show is way beyond the scope of my care. I'm just glad us fans had a dub

[@lm7677]

I’m glad Lesbians finally exist in this show Edit: Lesbian relationship. Christ on a stick y’all I’m bisexual I was just oversimplifying Edit 2: It’s still a lesbian relationship because it’s two women, neither of them have to be lesbians exclusively to have that be the case. I feel like you’ve all resorted to trying to correct me for what was initially a critique of the show’s lack of womanly presence outside of the context of the male characters.

[@EmSquems]

And shown so forwardly you see em in the background

[@doog462]

taco teusday

[@micah459]

Aren't they bisexual

[@Microwavable_Milk]

​@@sebastiantrias1529Bisexual people, Lesbian relationship!

[@CherryHotSauce]

⁠casual bisexual erasure

[@kamiwriterleonardo6345]

Until further notice, let's just assume the dad and the kids were murdered by Angels.

[@sandyv4819]

You're the first one I seen that said this and it makes so much more sense. But we also don't know the timeline between hh and hb. Are they alongside each other or is hh on a different timeline

[@lethal_flo9083]

It’s possible the kids went to heaven for simply being children. Idk

[@trashking471]

​@@lethal_flo9083 That's my theory too

[@mayonetta1406]

@@lethal_flo9083wasnt there a cannibal child in hazbin hotel?

[@Pr0fessorUnkn0wn]

@@mayonetta1406yeah that’s the entire reason vaggie lost her wings

[@KR91201]

Nah, mayberry has no self respect in this one. why would she get with someone who completely caused her life to go down the shitter. Martha cheated on her husband and I am sure as hell she would cheat on Mayberry.

[@codeviper8665]

I wouldn't be surprised if Blitzø and I made the same face at the same time

[@bobsart403]

Honestly getting killed just might be Martha and her husbands kink and they decided to go Polly. Or Ralph and the kids escaped the house before the cops blew it up.(Moxie was able to get quite far away and just a regular pace so they could have gotten realy far)

[@DBArtsCreators]

Now I imagine Martha getting periodic gift baskets via summoning circle from her kids back on Earth, and her sending gifts of unholy damnation to them for birthdays and holidays.

[@THATBrokeAroSpecWallet]

​@@DBArtsCreators honestly, kinda wholesome

[@FatimaMohsinHadi-m1w]

Imagine her come back asking biltzo to help her come to earth to see her family for something and tell them about the situation and they be like cool😂😂😂😂

[@tyrant-den884]

Sera: "Ralphie didnt steal, acted selflessly, and stuck it to the man." SC: "He stole lives!" Sera: "Doesnt mean much when there's an afterlife."

[@birdmcturd1626]

I guess being a Satanist is “sticking it to the man”.

[@arganlumens7117]

Me: sera think that you can have the kids in heaven and send their dad to hell because how a bad influence he and his wife are

[@tyrant-den884]

@@arganlumens7117 Sera: "Next you will tell me God is to blame for Him killing one thousand of Lillith's children every day to punish her for wanting to try cowgirl style sex."

[@arganlumens7117]

​@@tyrant-den884 me: I'm saying this because their parents taught them cannibalism and they are just still kids sera

[@tyrant-den884]

@@arganlumens7117 TBF: its not actually her call

[@RandomGuyInUrWallsss]

Hell yeah, I love how this crackship is cannon now

[@twistedwonderland1043]

It should have stayed a crackship.

[@Spacebun236]

The funny thing is I completely forgot that Martha existed so when I saw “Southern Bįtch” and she showed up as a sinner I was like “who?” Then I saw Mayberry and pogged

[@thewinterprince1731]

My impression: My religion believes children cannot be 100% blamed for their actions until they are at least 8 years old (they are also not baptized until 8 years old for that same reason, because it must be their choice, not the parents), and that additionally, one should not be held accountable for the sins of the parents. With this and similar logic, it is entirely possible that the kids were deemed innocent by Heaven on account of having awful parents that led them down a dark path instead of actually being bad kids themselves. This is reinforced by the fact that Moxie was willing to kill the parents, but found pity for the kids, and the kids were willing to accept a second chance. However, this does not excuse the father, since he was plenty old enough to make his own decisions and chose to make murderers out of his kids, so the father and mother went to hell. Anything could have happened between Mom and pop to split them up at that point, since their family was now already split up with the kids up in heaven and the parents in hell.

[@reulerverse_stories]

I know it was a small detail, but the satisfaction I got from seeing this ship as canon was huge. Also, I could NOT stop laughing. 🤣

[@louvenoct]

The fact that it started as a CRACKSHIP and become CANON is just insane to me- 😭

[@divaofthedamned365]

Am I the only one wondering where Ms. Maybery's husband is? I mean, I doubt he went to heaven. And we all know she can hold a grudge.

[@jonquilgemstone]

Honestly, I think that's a much better question to ask than the one about Martha's family. We saw them genuinely repent *before* they died, so there really is a chance they were cleansed and went to Heaven in forms reflecting what they repented of. Meanwhile, we see no narrative indication of Mr. Mayberry repenting

[@taviakultra]

Ralphie and the kids might be in Cannibal Town. He and Martha realised they grew apart and parted ways. They now co-parent very amicably.

[@nathanielturner2577]

13:31 These uncomfortable unanswered questions and f**ked up relationship dynamics is the bread and butter of Helluva Boss!!

[@alcssandra25]

YESSSS I'VE BEEN SHIPPING THEM BC TOXIC YURI AND I WAS CACKLING WHEN IT WAS CANON IM SO HAPPY

[@sam-s6o]

ur weird

[@alcssandra25]

@@sam-s6o I ain't gonna deny that lmaoa

[@edensgraces]

I literally had to pause and take a second when I saw these two, my jaw was on the FLOOR. Absolutely incredible that a crackship became canon

[@indiecrowarts]

Honestly I love it, my only critique is that for all the mlm relationships in helluva, I want even just one sapphic relationship in the show that actually matters. Not in the background or for a gag, but one that’s seen with some level of depth. That’s always been my main wish for the show- and ngl their appearance made me happy and it made me laugh- but it also reminded me of the lack of sapphic relationships in the show and that made me sad again

[@TheFowlWitch]

I didnt realize until you said something that there arent a lot of sapphic relationships in HoaB, and that actually makes me sad because I can relate to that.

[@yumekoslefttoenail6746]

it wouldve been so funny if blitz apologized to stella on his apology tour 😭

[@adolfodef]

He kinda already did it ALL THE WAY BACK to the morning after his first sex night with Stolas. -> He did not said "sorry", but did technically "apologized" after landing on her table.

[@yumekoslefttoenail6746]

@@adolfodef girl ik

[@aina____]

ikr, I actually expected for that to happen😭 would've been the cherry on top

[@BittersweetTheCat]

​@@adolfodef really? I could've sworn he said "sorry I fucked your husband" T-T

[@Dottie_Dot4x]

When I saw them I yelled out “I KNEW IT” 😶

[@Foxtail-Foxy]

I TOTALLY DID TOO!!

[@raindeer9787]

How tho??? My reaction was "Oh shiiiiit!" I did not see it coming at all

[@Dottie_Dot4x]

@@raindeer9787 cause of the “ranking every helluva boss ship” thing they made

[@Foxtail-Foxy]

@@raindeer9787 I just was thinking and it popped into my head also the shipping with them I've seen

[@goodenoughright5433]

I just figured the husband was taking the kids on a vacation across hell while the wife hangs out with her girlfriend. Like he has to know

[@southeasternlover]

That or like another comment said, they could have been killed by Angels but ya also agree with you.

[@adolfodef]

Since he & the kids would be sinners, they CAN NOT leave Pentagram City. -> Besides that... it would be an interesting idea if they were "exploring the possibilities" of their afterlives.

[@Deathangel6590_gaming]

When i first saw martha and mayberry it took me a second to realize who it was but when martha spoke it clicked

[@nicoletravis8702]

Do I even need to list the ways this is wrong? * Martha cheated w/ Mayberry’s husband. (& many other men) * Mayberry had Martha (& her entire family) killed after failing to kill her the first time. * Martha’s family is definitely down there w/ her, & yet we see no sign of any of them. Meaning-not only is Martha still betraying them-she is betraying them w/ the woman who caused their deaths.

[@SukunaIsHim]

Mrs Mayberry is on crazy timing💀

[@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982]

I was definitely not expecting to see Martha and Mrs Mayberry living in the same apartment, heck I didn't think they would be roommates or even a couple after everything that happened in Murder Family. Impressive stuff!😮

[@DarkApostleNoek]

Ya open marriage makes sense and never crossed my mind until said. I could see the situation being that they invite Mayberry over to kill her, find out they can't, so talking realizing eventually screwing. She never wanted the whole family dead the police were just extra trigger happy so I bet everyone laughs it off as they really could just continue with their lives as if nothing had happened. For future series look into with Shipping Ghost and Molly McGee (if want episodic) and WAKFU (if want serial).

[@phoeberaymond8781]

I love that this show gives you just enough to question things honestly

[@tinycandleman]

Just stopping by to comment after seeing this while scrolling A 15 minute video of a 3 second cameo. I certainly dont understand it, but I respect the grind brother.

[@AngelOfNoMercy]

i agree with this, but my head canon is the kids and the dad live with them, because what's better then 1 mommy, 2 mommies. including for Ralphie. and lets be honest here he would 100% be ok with more people being invited into the family as it means his wife is happy, he's happy and they have a genuine cult. ala the hills have eyes.

[@atilamaldonado8944]

I literally pause the episode the moment Mayberry walk on screen and then started laughing while saying: "Theres no way they did it😂"

[@iceluvndiva21]

Dude. It's not hard. Ralphie knows who the fuck he married so he knows she's sleeping around. If anything? I could absolutely see him inviting Martha to stay like "damn bitch! That's hot" and then telling his kids they have another mom. That she's part of the family now and the kids would be confused but gradually OK with it

[@_NIKOS9_NIKOS]

Hell, Mayberry used to be a teacher, so she probably gets along well with the kids. Something that Ralph would probably appreciate

[@FlanneryYT]

Personally, I just choose to assume either... 1. Extermination got them. 2. They're all living together but we're only being shown Martha and Mayberry because funny. 3. After everything blew up on them (literally) the result was divorce since it's "til death do us part." I'm fine rolling with any of these assumptions.

[@DatLazyBoi]

It's less like fanservice and more of a suprise generally Considering their histories,it's a miracle they even got together XD

[@MouseTheGoblin]

My honest guess is that it’s a shared custody situation, and that they realized they only held onto each other because no one else matched their interest But now they’re in hell. Lots of folks just like them, EVERYWHERE. A whole town dedicated to them even. And unable to pursue their one shared hobby. So the split was mutual, no hate, and it explains why he was so calm about her cheating on him so often (probably eating the men she had in bed tbh)

[@elainecanby412]

That’s not Buffalo Bill style, that’s Texas Chainsaw style. And you forgot cannibalism.

[@T0B3573R]

I really hope they don’t just shrug this ship off, and we get more of it like Sallie Mae. Also it’s MAYBE possible that the kids and the dad are in Heaven, because Heaven to me seems to be biased in who it chooses, but also.. the scene where the dad says, “It’s a universal remote, I got it for the kids.” And him showing genuine affection towards his kids makes me think that MAYBE he got into Heaven like Sir P. Who sacrificed himself to save his friends despite everything else he’s done. But that’s just a theory.

[@ravenfrancis1476]

Considering the most we've seen of Sallie Mae in the show itself after her debut with a whopping minute of screentime was her getting segregated off to the unimportant shorts that have no impact on the actual story of Helluva Boss, I wouldn't say she's drowning in screen time either.

[@T0B3573R]

@@ravenfrancis1476 She got an outfit change, and she helped us understand Millie and herself a little better. WHICH IS SOMETHING, GODDAMMIT! 💪

[@ravenfrancis1476]

@@T0B3573R I mean,, its something, but completely segregated from the actual show itself and also not indicative of anything since she's not been present for either of the two episodes released after it though.

[@general_merten]

7:43 eternal damnation -Sir Pentious " Are you s-s-sure about that ? "

[@IrieTheGreat]

My heart freaking dropped when I saw Mrs. Norberry and Martha together! Bro my heart EXPLODED! I screamed so loudly that the whole world heard me! I need a backstory on how these two got together ASAP!

[@SourelppA]

Love how this guy can make a 14 minute video off of a background gag lol

[@somebodycallixii8809]

From what I hear, This ship has made people theorize that the real reason Mrs. Mayberry wanted Martha killed was secretly so she could have sex with her, Which kinda makes sense when you think about what Martha did she had sex with Mayberrys husband and now that Martha and Mayberry had sex they are kinda even now.

[@thenerdbeast7375]

I think it is more likely Mayberry sought Martha out. It is basic human psychology that people who feel wronged will continue to further victimize themselves in their own head in a self-destructive loop to justify their own actions in getting revenge to the point that when the revenge finally happens it often isn't satisfactory. However unlike most times in which revenge is permanent, they are in Hell so Mayberry could confront Martha with what she did. Whether violence, conflict or conversation happened next we'll probably will never know without a dedicated short but we can see the end result.

[@StarViewer68]

I agree with your take on Miss Mayberry! After the events of episode 1, I can imagine Mayberry looking for Martha, smugly assuming that Martha must be so miserable now that she’s in hell. Only to find that Martha is thriving and having the time of her afterlife. This deeply angers Mayberry, because this was not supposed to happen. SHE, the victim of her husband’s affair with Martha, should be the winner in all this, not Martha, the cheating, lying mistress.

[@Salve.Servum_Dea]

I like the relationship. But there are more problems lore wise. Mainly, how did Mayberry find out about the “Martha’s a hero.” Bit. Like I could understand that lore wise people who die in the same place might go to hell in similar locations, and by process of elimination figured out that she was alive. But how did she figure out that Martha was a “hero.” Hell has very *very* little connection with the outside plains, other than the yearly heaven meeting, now twice yearly. Also how did Blitzø manage to track down every last person they killed?

[@johnvandiver5634]

This is vizziepops animation and the more you try to figure ot out the more it will give you a headache

[@nevermind9835]

Considering that we will get several helluva shirts in the next few months… I’m sure this will be one of them.

[@southeasternlover]

I’d hope so.

[@normalgirls1]

This was the biggest plot twist of the episode but makes perfect sense 🤣

[@thediamonddragon1369]

I love that Blitz's face right after Ms.Mayberry steps out of the bathroom, looks like he's saying to the camera, 'oh yeah we know what we've done here' 😏

[@lingbitx5416]

The fact sinners can be redeemed makes this 10x funnier

[@roxas3071]

my guess is thanks to moxxie setting the dad and kids straight they got into heaven just under the wire, and if not then they left Martha after going to hell. Either way Martha was left alone, and after finding out who put a hit on her Martha attacked Mayberry and killed her, but due to the sinners inability to die she rose back up and retaliated against Martha. This lead to a vicious cycle of them repeatedly killing one another until they just got bored of it and either slowly developed their relationship over time or just straight up f***ed each other after their latest tussle.

[@CherryHotSauce]

She’s cheated before what’s to stop her from cheating again? Simple answer.

[@koalabearkhan145]

As much as I’ve seen these 2 online before this episode drop, it hardly surprised me

[@warwulf1889]

4:11 it's also possible that they did immediately try to kill each other, only to quickly realize that without angelic weapons, they couldn't.

[@kenpachistory_maker06]

My headcanon is that Martha found Mayberry, they fought, they fucked, Mayberry thought (WTF!?) and Martha said "Lets hook up"

[@akilcharles3473]

The possibilty of Martha X Mayberry becoming a thing was not to be expected but expected non the less. Also as going of the tier list ships you did, I have to say this. Given what we know so far up to now with Stolas X Blitzo it could just be possibilty that those 2 might not end back up together with him complicated and and how f up they are, there is that small(very small) possibilty of the Loona X Octavia ship to happened given how much they have in common and related to each other.