Bella Goth from the Game's Perspective

[@Marticore]

ALSO! One of the reasons of Bella's disappearance could've been the urge to show how developed aliens are in the new game, compared to The Sims 1 where they were just a tiny addition.

[@MrKringlebotn]

You for got to mention that "Where's Bella" in TS3 was written by Alexander Goth according to the book shop, which in the base game only was a child!

[@echowoods7977]

@@MrKringlebotn that was probably just an easter egg

[@Marticore]

I didn't see the point in saying something that everyone knows. I showed the book on screen and that's it :P

[@katczu]

lol I don't remember any aliens in TS1 :D maybe my gameplay was too basic to get abducted back then

[@whatshername6191]

The full polish sentence tho is actually: 'If you don't know what it is about, it's about money or sex'' Still fits pretty well 😂

[@IraYuzhnaya]

You: it's been almost six... Me: yeah, 6 years, like it was yesterday You: ...teen years Me: WHAT?!

[@Marticore]

Sims 4 is 6 years old xD

[@IraYuzhnaya]

Marticore it‘s crazy...time is crazy

[@nicolethomas8090]

Ira Yuzhnaya sims is 20 yrs old

[@IraYuzhnaya]

@@nicolethomas8090 yeah, i'm 23 so it's absolutely mind-blowing for me

[@magicduckman5568]

Sims 3 is 11 years old :c it feels like yesterday.

[@onlyabidoang]

I really like how you discussed this whole Bella Goth debacle but focusing more on the technical side of things instead of theories or conspiracies!

[@AvocadoToast06]

Hii!!

[@agnezmorgan8141]

Omg! You here!

[@bartoszmarcusz1047]

You?! YOU?! HERE!?!?!

[@ArborParva]

hello Abi

[@aha4493]

Abi ❤ you here?! ... HI!!!

[@glanni]

I have to really respect what they did with Bella's story. They created one of the most iconic characters in the video game world, and without the mystery of her disappearance she wouldn't be nearly as famous. I find it so interesting to see how the creation and marketing of cult characters work.

[@Squaretable22]

I mean yeah Bella was iconic in TS1 to begin with (that red dress and the graveyard man) But TS2 propelled her into another tier of stardom

[@NenadlPopovic]

I agree for the fame part, but Im still sad she wasn't available to return somehow and live normally again, cuz Goths were always my fave Maxis made family

[@glanni]

@@NenadlPopovic I fully agree, I was devastated when I first found out that you're actually _not_ supposed to look for her and reunite her with Mortimer. In the long run it made her more famous, but the price we paid was high.

[@microwave8931]

998 likes so far

[@mushrmbaby1287]

True but...i never really cared at all, NPCs are not that important to me anyways-

[@laurapamplona215]

You're telling me that two sims with the Grilled Cheese aspiration will have the healthiest relationship ever?

[@Marticore]

I guess so... And the relationship will be the only healthy thing 😂

[@dundee6402]

Fun fact: If Alexander Goth is sent to college after Mortimer passed away, Pleasantview Bella Goth will appear in his cutscene.

[@Marticore]

yep

[@EvaIdk__Romania]

Ooh!

[@Alisa_Nanar]

And if he died in childhood, Bella will come to take him “home”, because the ghosts of children are in the default folder, like all NPCs... and she will be playable, if bring her in family(but game will be crush)

[@mistiffiecation]

5:23 Can I just point out the silliness of mutual attracion of Grilled Cheese aspiration? +145 buff? That is some STRONG drive. XD

[@annahimmel]

I was just going to say that lmao

[@15JenJen15]

They just love grilled cheese

[@existentialgamer9206]

Makes sense, imagine you’re crazy about grilled cheese and then you finally find your grilled cheese soulmate who actually gets you lol

[@PoptartParasol]

I think the weirder your hobbies/passions are the more attached you are the people who share it, simply because they're so rare.

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

Makes sense tho. What are the chances to find another person with the exact same crazy aspiration as yours?

[@RosaCatz]

That was one of the most well done videos on the Bella mystery I’ve ever seen

[@Marticore]

:O

[@gr1lled_cheese]

What are the others

[@fishstew2573]

Roman Belyakov I enjoyed pumbella’s

[@milliedred4341]

@@Marticore ❤️❤️❤️

[@itamarmedeirosnetto]

I think the same thing. My theory is that Dina first convinced Don to flirt with bela, so Mortimer would caught her cheating and divorce her, but when she refuse making out with Don (as proven by his memories) She came with another plan, contacting her alien family to abduct her. And then I think that Dina Planned also that Don should marry with Cassandra, so both could get the Goth money and stay as lovers, but don is so afraid of marriage that this did not work out in the end.

[@geraldinelewis8314]

Sounds legit

[@augh4659]

No. This is wrong I’ll link you the real one.

[@augh4659]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGXOaJKaacuVf7s

[@sk00by37]

@@augh4659 There's no "wrong" or "right" ones lmao they're all theories.

[@slytherinserpent73]

At least the goths are happy in sims 4

[@missline95]

Ahh, i frikin loved the "no chemistry" thing. So realistic. Like the time you meet that person thats just sooo not a match and the conversation does not flow one bit.

[@jamiemohan2049]

Bella was initially designed to be a gold digger. She is also a romance sim. She would have desired to cheat. The no chemistry is is good haha

[@adrielelmascapo]

@@jamiemohan2049 ;; Kinda weird because she refused to make out with Don.

[@Ilivepuppys]

@@adrielelmascapo i dont think Bella was made to cheat, if so she would of said yes to Don. Bella loved her family and Mortimer is the one who murderers her....(I have a whole theory on it haha and it oddly fits

[@paulamazur9449]

When I was a little poo , I've never wondered about that. I was like: Bella's gone OK , that's it.

[@PoorGirlism]

I played the sims 2 sinceI I was like... Maybe 10 years old? I didn't even notice that they made some story line for pre-made families, and even went through the trouble for making long family trees. I played the sims 1 so of course I know bella. And I know goth family is also in the sims 2, but I feel stupid coz I didn't notice that bella is missing from goth family. Even though I played that family. I never noticed she is gone after a few years of playing until I watch youtube videos, and then I was like, "OOOHHHH!!!"

[@luccianadavilacastello5362]

@@PoorGirlism same haha i felt rlly dumb when i found out all of this

[@annacamila_]

Me either! I was all about creating families and killing them on the same round xD

[@ArborParva]

haha same. I've been busy creating my own sims and barely ever played with premades

[@paulamazur9449]

I'm so glad, i'm not the only one haha

[@mryoshi1221]

people rarely talk about how the telescope don has is non-compatible with alien abduction

[@Marticore]

True

[@mermaidgirl0075]

So maybe Don kidnapped her and ditched her in strange town but I guess I’d need evidence for that theory which I just thought of in 2 seconds

[@luky_games6238]

I think that maxis just forgot that

[@randomuser2427]

"Is he a psychopath?" "No, he's a knowledge Sim, that's how they work" The way you said it like it's the most casual thing in the world is so hilarious for some reason.

[@КатяГарь]

Now I want to make Nervous have a child just so I can name them Simoleon Subject. Thank you, Marticore

[@Bille994]

I find it so interesting that most other people played the Sims 2 by trying to unravel these mysteries and playing with the households that were pre-made. I played this game for over a decade and never bothered with them, just made my own family trees and stories. Surely I'm not the only one who did that

[@catazanoni1455]

Most of the time I created my own familys but they had really interesting storys so I also played with those I used to share the game with my sisters and we had one of the pre-made neighborhood for each of us and we didn't let the others use them (and of course we could create more but I preferred the pre-made bc it already had families there with their own relationships) so I barely played with Stangetown

[@musicadictor]

same!!! I never play with the premade families in any of the sims games! I had a vague idea of who the Goths are until like 5 to 7 years ago, even tho I've been playing since sims 1!

[@jake-amirblumenfeldwitz6068]

I never played with the premade sims, but only because id been round them all and read all their drama filled bios and LOVED the story, so didnt dare play them in case i ruined the stories somehow 😆

[@phosphenevision]

I played more with my own families but I also played with the pre-made households, but I kept more to my faves

[@soaluc]

Same! I always started a new world and did everything from lots to sims

[@isaiasagustini7525]

Aliens were so hyped in the early 2000’s, probably the reason why aliens in sims 2 base game was a big selling point connecting to the most iconic original sims game household, the Goths. And the whole drama around sims 2 families honestly was the best this they ever did, i miss that in the newer games.

[@Legoboy55able]

I literally saw Bella walking around my town last night. It was a custom world, with no townies, so I have no idea how she got there.

[@mverus9460]

that could be a sign of corruption of your game or neighborhood.

[@davidkonevky7372]

There is an other version of Bella in strange town, maybe that's it (?

[@SimsAllAround]

She's a townie in Strangetown, but also hidden in Pleasantview. So it's possible.

[@timothyknoll4417]

Creepy...

[@PoptartParasol]

I saw her around in sims 2 too. So this video confused me quite a bit, she's supposed to not be in the game?? Weird

[@sydostubegaming425]

One time I added Bella to the Goth family with the “Tombstone of L and D” and I was able to play as her, I then went to play as the Broke family to resurrect Skip. When I went back to the Goth family, something crazy happened: Bella kept on going more and more transparent (Like a ghost) and then disappeared, I got a message that said: “Bella has died on another lot” Cassandra and Alexander then got a new memory that said “Bella Died”. I went to the family tree and Bella was greyed out, I also couldn’t see a Tombstone, this must be what the death token has an effect on.

[@Marticore]

Yes, exactly that. If you don't delete the token, this always happens after you reload the family.

[@kazukimanga]

Strangetown Bella Goth in my game (in french) doesn't even have the same name as Pleasantview Bella Goth BUT she has the Curious family name which is very very strange.

[@jagoda6096]

Fan theories in France must be wild!

[@SweetStrawberryShell]

Omg that's so interesting!

[@nikolettkiss5298]

As far as I know, SimGuru Lindsey said that Bella was supposed to be a playable character in the Curious family but because of the glitch, she disappeared.

[@addasensei]

Oui elle s’appelle Kathy Lalouche

[@Wildfire91180]

La fameuse Kathy Lelouche

[@l0v3bu99]

I think since she's a hidden sim she just got a 'purpose' treatment. She was originally put into game to be used for storytelling screenshots, backstory and genetics. But it's the same situation as with the original Nervous Subject, found within game files. He is the *actual* son of Olivia, was used to build the backstory for the Beaker fam but for whatever reason was put aside once his purpose has come to an end and was replaced by a sim we all know as our Nervous. I just can't figure out why they would make two different sims for that. Also the lack of personality and the default cancer sign may mean that the sim was actually incomplete/not meant to be playable? I mean, it's the case with other 'purpose' Sims like ideal plantsim who is missing all the crucial personality elements because there was no point in adding them ☺️

[@zookeeps1340]

Maybe She Never Was Abdicted With Aliens And That's What Mortimer And Cassandra Told Alexander To Cover Up The Fact That She Died Or Ran Away

[@augh4659]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGXOaJKaacuVf7s The mystery is already solved check it.

[@augh4659]

Zookeeps 13 You’re somewhat close. Mortimer killed Bella!

[@Marticore]

My video is partially an answer to this ridiculous theory :P

[@okboomer3834]

@@zookeeps1340 i had a stroke reading that, thank you

[@twojstary1839]

i was playing the sims 3 lately and adults went to that trip and the son and father came back but mother didn't. I got my own Bella Goth. And then the father died like 2 days after becoming an elder so it was two teenagers and their 23 years old brother... Somehow he is more strict than the parents ever were

[@glupi-lis]

13:49, yeah, 2nd face is called "base" in some game files

[@Marticore]

Even the Grim Reaper has this face! And if your Sim's face resets, it turns into the 2nd template.

[@itamarmedeirosnetto]

I think this is the better face, because it maches better with other faces templates when making a child. The only think I hate is how it looks on elder females, because it turns to be so thin

[@glupi-lis]

@@itamarmedeirosnetto It's a bug and there is a fix of elder face on modthesims, but it works only on sims who will be born after installing this mod

[@antoninko]

@@glupi-lis It isn't a bug, the replacement on MTS just gives the adult face to elders

[@glupi-lis]

@@antoninko It is a bug, Tara Cat and adult woman (I don't remember her name) from Kim family have face shape from second template and when they age up to elders, they have face which looks like that from modthesims. I've read something about wrong cheeks/cheekbones mapping or something on female elder face, it wasn't fixed in CAS, but it was on these Sims, these Sims I mean Tara Cat and the Kim lady

[@letitsimmer94]

"He's just a knowledge sim. That's how they work" why has that made me laugh so hard? XD So true

[@Avenlith]

12:23 Regarding the Waterview etc. When creating games, you usually start with "test" location, to learn how to build the map. When developer get to know their tools and how the game works (many mechanics can come later, than the map), they start working on the actual map. Notice how most games have a good introduction sequence, then there is mediocre central part of the game. The ending is usually the best part. That's because devs learn their own game while developing it. No one "feels" the story and the gameplay right away. You have to learn it. I think that the Waterview etc were placeholder cities used to learn the Engine and whole game mechanics. When they were sure about it all, they got creative and just made something fun and exciting. I believe The Sims 2 had this route. I am developing my own game and I have done 2 placeholder maps before creating something, that I finally approved as final game map. The last map, that I will do is the boss one, since it must be the best one :)

[@Avenlith]

14:10 With the face it could also be an error with documentation. Someone wrote down, that the bella's face was nr 1 with the following changes. Someone else was building Strangetown people and just created Bella with the first face, not knowing, that they added a new face. Btw I am curious if it is possible to check if changes made to Pleasantview's Bella are the same, that were added to Stranegotwn's Bella.

[@cremona321]

-gg 6

[@Pollicina_db]

Yeah it's the samw with writing stories or scripts/plots for comics.

[@koolisims]

I'm pretty surprised that your English video about Bella seems way more organized in its structure than the Polish one. And honestly, I like this one more!

[@Marticore]

Oh, thanks! I thought it's kind of a mess... So good to know it's not!

[@koolisims]

@@Marticore I don't think it was! This part with answering to "possible questions" with showing them on screen was great in my opinion, it really helped with video's structure:) And yeah, it might be a pretty basic way for a video, but it worked on me so :P

[@Marticore]

Oh yeah, that was something I came up with after I recorded the whole narration, so had to record that part once again XD I'm glad you like it!

[@chompchompchangbin]

I think you're right on the end. I think they made a random goofy story that could be open ended, letting the players do whatever they want with Mortimer and thought that players wouldn't care as much seeing as you can make your own stories with the game. Normally, if people can make their own stuff in a game, they don't like playing side characters. I think people got so involved in the story after they realized Sims *always* come back from being abducted by aliens… so why didn't Bella!?!?

[@fretzil]

A lot of people dont take into account what was actually going on behind the scenes at Maxis when the game was being developed, absurd crunch, people were still working on sims 1 expansions, it was a total brainmelt, it did create a pretty quirky game. No office fires, just a lot of overworked, multitasking people.

[@thejoydespretofficial]

I wasn't expecting that, but I VERY appreciate it

[@SanojSims]

Finally someone who doesn't speak conspiracy theory nonsense. Lots of love to you!

[@jupitersnoot4915]

I just find it really funny that they unintentionally caused Bella to become basically the face of the entire sims series. Even people who don't know the sims games and don't play them know about Bella goth. She's essentially the sims' mascot at this point.

[@BoBPlayGamesTV]

there are 2 adult male voices, 2 adult female voices and other ages/genders have only 1 voice per each ;3

[@imfamoushero]

Thank you for the video. It’s nice to see a breakdown from the perspective of “yeah no these are just programming mistakes/not intended to be seen by the public.” i love a good conspiracy like the rest but like sometimes it really isn’t that deep and that’s ok

[@taylorjohnson3965]

Their looks being possibly coded and the second template possibly being the original first template makes me think her face swap could’ve been a communication issue. Maybe when they were making S Bella they already added new first template and didn’t realize it was a different one when altering it, but they did remember what alterations they made to P Bella’s face. Idk if that makes sense

[@FaeQueenCory]

Given the CAS face being 2 instead of 1... It's more possible that what happened was that Bella was given the disappearance plot was decided after the face defaults were reordered. So when someone went on to remake Bella for Strangetown, they were told to use the default 1 face. Which was originally the now 2 face. It's the easiest explanation for as why they use different faces.

[@Marticore]

Yeah, that makes sense

[@yeahitsAce]

I'm just assuming the whole abduction thing was planned all along. As Marticore stated, they might have wanted to showcase the more developed aliens in the sims 2. There's a ton of other sims that kind of went thorugh the same thing, like Nervous, Skip, Darleen, etc, who have clones for whatever reason that replaced them in the final version of the game. I'd just like to know why NPCs such as social worker and carpool drivers are so broken. Despite having completed personalities and skills, they kill the game over time when controlled.

[@glanni]

I also really prefer P Bella because for me she looks pretty unique since I rarely use the second face template.

[@Esth.1]

THANK YOU FOR THIS I get so absolutely sick of those "gossip"-like theories about Bella. This makes way more sense and I love all the research you put into it

[@elia9188]

This is one of the best video I ever seen about the mystery of Bella Goth. I always hated that generally when people talk about the mystery say thins like: "in the game files there's this or there's that" but didn't show actual gamefiles because start fast as possibile with crazy cospyracies theory. Now I finally seen this infamous game files with the tokens and things Hidden by developers and have much clear ideas about my own solution of the mystery of Bella Goth😁

[@timotejgabris9162]

This is a really good video. I love when you get all technical because it really shows how many facts you can learn just by looking into things and actually knowing the game mechanics very well. You are such a knowledge sim :D

[@Marticore]

I would call myself a Pleasure Sim actually, but thanks! :D

[@timotejgabris9162]

@@Marticore Actually that does make more sense, doesn't it :D Knowledge secondary aspiration then :D

[@dariakurai]

OMG thank you!! I was always more interested in the technical side of the whole "disappearence story" but many videos I've seen covered only theories, not facts I would really like to see more of such videos from you in the future💖💖

[@friendly4465]

What they COULD have done is make a story where you could "earn" the real Bella back, through Cassandra or even Mortimer. Since Mortimer is a Knowledge sim, why couldn't he investigate somehow? Hell why couldn't the youngest son investigate?! He already writes a book in Sims 3 about his mother's disappearance.. I dunno, this just seems disjointed and lazy of EA.

[@mwmdl17]

Maybe Alexander tried to change something, by going back in time and writing a book, so that Bella's story would not happen, and at the same time created another dimension called The Sims 4, where he lives with his parents and sister in Willow Creek?

[@SopadePollo296]

There is already one, it's for PSP. It's pretty funny.

[@Angelcatlatteyt]

I think thats the theory behind sims 4's alternate timeline, at least that's how I coded my world

[@Xegethra]

It would have been quite cool. An unmarked quest if you will to bring her back, maybe even non Goth Sims could do it, even if they'd have no attachment to her, their knowledge and curiosity could be the reason....although the real reason not everyone would want to play one specific family just to get her back.

[@mermaidgirl0075]

Wait, their son Alexander could not exist in the sims 3, sunset valley takes place before pleasant view when Mortimer and Bella are kids

[@nekogirlbeth123]

This was a really interesting and fun video to watch that also helps remind us of an important rule about gaming: If you're not supposed to see it, it probably doesn't actually mean anything.

[@Marticore]

Exactly!

[@marko_c3]

there are actually two adult male voice sets as well as two female voice sets, tho the male voices sound extremely similar. the only difference is that one is slightly deeper than the other. random unrelated fact but i wanted to share

[@katczu]

I know it's just a game and I'm 25 but I'm spooked xD

[@Marticore]

XDDD Well I'm 27 and I made this video! :D

[@AlinaHirtlMusic]

@@Marticore hi :D

[@Kevinsko1]

I love the Sims 2 Marticore typing on the computer scene from time to time xD And what the actual hell? I never knew about 15:56 O_O Probably because I never really played that career but still. Awesome video as usual. ☺

[@AlexLopez0506]

Hi! I wrote that one explanation post on Tumblr, and I LOVE how you explain the game mechanics. I didn't really explore the game mechanics because I wanted to explain the story side, but I still find this so interesting. 😍

[@Marticore]

Well, your post inspired me to make this video, so thanks! :D

[@java_finch]

I think SimPE gives a good idea of how this whole mess functions. I played around with relationships when I wanted to make my Servo sim part of the family tree and give him the "family kiss" interaction, and it's kind of a convoluted system that makes room for a lot of unconventional family relationships, actually. There's the family tree ties that are pretty much a separate system from flags for relationship types (such as "spouse", "sibling", "friend" and such, and i think it's possible to make a lot of odd combos of those, as far i remember they don't even have to be mutual between the 2 sims). This way you can place them anywhere on a family tree, but have them treat each other in a completely different way (first time i messed up and made the robot a grandchild of a sim on the tree, but didn't set the family flag, and accidentally made them get romantic since they didn't treat each other as family). "I am dead" token has nothing to do with relationships, it's not even a deceased status per se, more like a tool that hides a sim so that they never appear on lots. Now I kinda wanna remove the token from an actual dead sim just to see how that works :D

[@vitaluka1854]

I did a cheat on one of my sims and gave them the death token cuz I thought it would kill them, and out of nowhere after all was going well for a few sim days she goes to work and then comes back dead. No reaper or grave, just gone and dead in the family tree. I gave it to an elderly sim so maybe that's why?

[@tekkayagi6814]

I feel like you should’ve mentioned the Roth family as well. I honestly believe that family was made to tell the story the Goth family was going to have if Bella did not disappear. This could support the theory that Bella was mistakenly given a dead token.

[@helenaww]

they’re just a parody.

[@mermaidgirl0075]

Is anyone gonna talk about the Specter family having the same house as the goths and a helluva lot of graves. Like the goths?

[@mossykr0w]

just gonna appreciate how: S Bella: MySpace phase P Bella: scrolling on Facebook 24/7 now-a-days

[@CeceJianni]

This was incredibly well done, and makes the most sense. Thank you.

[@awkwardorangedrawz5914]

THANK YOU for sort of debunking the fire theory. One of the people that worked on the Sims 2 said that there was no fire and that their vision of game changed over time like: how to game looks and the UI. They were even going to add 3D rain and refections but the rain kept on going through everything and the refections made it choppy. Also, if there was a fire... wouldn't they have back-ups? And I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have everything run on the same thing.

[@DGTelevsionNetwork]

The look is mainly due to the lighting system. Most of the objects are the same even in early media. Originally it shared the system based on the Sims urbz with the time cycle from SimCity 4. Somewhere in development, either testers or programmers were complaining about the game being too dark and so the night time was turned light blue instead of red scale used in sc4.

[@Xegethra]

It's standard game development like any other game. If they had to start all over again it wouldn't have come out when it did. I guess a fire sounds more exiting to people than just....game development.

[@awkwardorangedrawz5914]

@@Xegethra exactly! People don't know how computers work -- they wouldn't lose all their progress. Maybe people just want it to be exciting instead of them changing the direction and look for the game.

[@jojosworld1396]

New subscriber! I really like your personality and they way you break things down. Glad to see that more people are still playing the sims 2. 💫

[@jumavipe]

i once got bella from strange ville to marry my sim, so she'd become playable and then i got her to move to the other town, and she wasn't related to her kids and i was so dissapointed

[@pauuuuuwa]

THANK YOU for addressing the different face templates for both Bellas! They're clearly different women, even their voices.. I was always so bothered by that. Great analysis in this video.

[@kitana_kennedy]

Mad respect for the amount of work in this video! It's really high quality and entertaining ⭐⭐⭐

[@genevievemonk1108]

2:42 it's another day in Pleasantview, Bella Goth is casually pouring milk from a carton with her face on it

[@NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois]

This was a really good explanation to everything in the game that got people's imaginations running wild and the reasons the game is actually like that, thank you!

[@annagundam9120]

The new face is probably just because they wanted her to be more "pretty" and nothing more.

[@suzy_han]

Im so happy everytime you upload 💟 when i ran out of your videos on the polish channel I was so happy to find this one ^^ I love the Legacy Challenge and this video was super interesting too!

[@loisteganc1970]

I really enjoyed this side of the story! I'm not a technical person myself, and I am one of those who runs off with theories and Lore, but this certainly made me very interested and for the most part I think you are correct. Although it is fun to create your own stories!

[@xuxu3703]

Śliczny akcent! Ciekawy film, podziwiam za ilość pracy włożonej w to wszystko. Fajnie się ogląda, keep it up ⭐

[@kali6753]

Yap, Maxis messed up so much in the old Neighborhoods, but since some player taked their time to working out some better solution, im happy to playing them again.. and again.. and again. There are many rumours out there, but nevertheless, Sims 2 is my all time favorit game, no matter what. And i have some very special KZbinr's who i closed in my Heart forever. You are one of them Marticore, altough im not commenting so often. Have an absolutely awesome day

[@LittleLilac27]

I find it crazy how we’re still discussing this YEARS later. It shows how captivating the mystery is.

[@Youtubee-nd4je]

This video is so interesting . Better than any I’ve seen about her !! Subscribed !

[@bbylexaaa]

I can listen to you talk all day! The Bella theory is so intriguing.

[@Bozikee]

Every so often I play this video again. I love your explanation about Bella and really enjoy these types of videos

[@justpeachy97]

"K bye mom." 😂😂😂 Thank you *so* much for talking about the technical side, this answered a lot of my questions! She was my favorite character and something I was always obsessed with as a kid who had dial up internet and had no way to figure out the technical side 😂

[@Александар-МЈанкоски]

The chemistry thing, the "fixed" all the pre NL sims to have a correct chemistry. Since she is hidden they wouldn't have bothered to fix hers. However he not being attracted to Mortimer ties in with the story in TS2 for PS2(I think that was the game). You explore strangetown and one of the goals of the game is to discover everyone's secrets. Bella's secrets tell use that she never loved Mortimer she married him for the money. So it makes sense that she is not attracted to him.

[@Александар-МЈанкоски]

One thing that might be over looked when making TS3 is how not rich are the Bachelors. I mean they have like 3000 in the funds. Plus Bella marring for the money, makes no sense as Dina married Michael for money. So either this was over looked by the developers, or maybe Michael wasn't on the best terms with his family and had made money on his own as Bella and his relatives never knew of Dina. Like I don't think Mortimer would have gotten with Dina if he knew that Dina was his wife. I often can't sleep as I find more plot holes in this story 😂😂

[@Blackchris2080]

There is a comment somewhere that states in a 2006 interview that Bella loves Mortimer

[@kaankaraca2001]

Bella in the Sims 2 itself is quite self explanatory as you described. It’s all her other appearances that’s super weird to me. The interview is like an amalgamation of all the fan theories and she says she loves Mortimer, but then the PSP game ignores that and the memory loss angle and says she only married Mortimer for his money (oof) but stayed for free premium cable… weird since the Goths have no TV… except in the GBA game where Mortimer is an elder, Cassandra is an adult, Alexander is a child, and Bella has reunited with them and they love watching the Strangetown TV show… then she appears in the Facebook game and the mobile game, and I kinda don’t count them as she’s just a tutorial character… then she turns up in Lunar Lakes, dead. So in the end, Bella’s whole deal was that she loved cable tv too much :)

[@marcel7734]

Sims 2: alien conspiracy Sims 3: haha unicorn face paint

[@whocare7759]

That's may be the best video I've seen about this subject. THANK YOU for taking the time and putting the effort to make this! You deserve a lot more subscribers. Subbed :)

[@TayLeigh127]

This is such an interesting angle to discuss the Bella Goth mystery! Your theory about the first face template being added later in the game and replacing the original default makes so much sense.

[@googleuser4225]

Never realised you’re polish, love to see another polish simmer ❤️

[@pwltn15]

This Bella videos are so important!

[@sunflower4100]

I will tell my theory here: Don Lothario wanted to have a romance with Bella, but was rejected. Dina Caliente married Bella's brother, so he probably said to Dina that his sister married an almost millionarie, then Dina got interested. The Caliente sisters are aliens hybrids, so maybe them still have contact to aliens (ive seen in some places that they dont know about this, but idk if they know). So when Michael died, Don and Dina made a plan, Dina asked aliens to abduct her, since the sisters maybe had contact to aliens, so Don asked Bella to hang out on his house when the aliens were coming, and that happened, and they dropped her in strangetown. Also, she only remembers that she loves her family.

[@BKNTD]

Long story short, every fan theory is correct, because there's no canon story created by the developers. The biggest mistery of the franchise has always been just a clever advertisment campaign to stimulate fan speculation. Without the mystery, Bella wouldn't be nearly as iconic as she is and the Goths would be a forgettable generic artifact from the past. Whoever decided to mess up with the fans and just remove her like that was kind of a marketing genius.

[@Grafii2198]

I just love how this video isn't a theory about Bella and more of a talk of how this game works by making theories about its development xd Because for example we totally can not know when Cas was made like we can speculate that P Bella and some others where made directly in code but then we know there were many sims in Riverside which was the prelude(can't find better word xd) to Pleasantview and Bella is one of the first created sims in Pleasantview, but is she one of the first sims ever made??? There are just more questions than answers... Also, this part 15:30 is just amazing, why this sounds better in English than in Polish? xd Maybe it is just the way you said it which is amazing btw! I will probably start using it now xd

[@Chellyoxo]

I agree with your views on the story. You articulated it very well!

[@tamarascarpelli6401]

Hey! I just wanted to say that i loved this video! I enjoyed it a lot, your pronunciation got a lot better and clearer. Also this time the way you explain everything was way more organized and planned. Also, i really like this content! I've been playing this game almost my entire life, but i've never thought about Bella's story too much, so it's refreshing to hear your theory, wich i think is the most logical explanation i've heard so far. You are really making an effort to improve when making your videos and it shows! Please keep up posting :) you've earned a subscribe

[@amandaevers626]

moving sims between towns can cause corruption 😬

[@goldbirdcages]

This is so interesting! Who would have thought we would still be trying to work out the mystery 16 years later!?

[@idiotsandwich4912]

2 seconds in and I’m in love with the accent you have!

[@pupinia6936]

that ending cracked me up lmao. excellent analysis by the way, really changed my perspective about the sims.

[@daesplays8737]

Bella got herself abducted on purpose so she wouldn't have to see the downfall of Maxis.

[@Marticore]

😂

[@nobodyjustme2208]

9:14 Is it just me or is their body shapes slightly different? The one from the left has flatter chest and lower shoulders than the one from the right?

[@aniakania1272]

when i thought i knew enough about bella goth, i watched your video! thanks for that!

[@Marticore]

Now watch April Black's video for more mind blowing 😀

[@monicabellu9566]

Subscribed! I've seen other videos about Bella, but I just loved how you explained it 💞

[@NenadlPopovic]

I remember when my sister & I installed Sims 2 for the first time, at the time I didn't know English very good - she was reading the back story and I was sooo sooo sad that Bella was gone (cuz they were my fave family in Sims 1) We tried a lot to return her (back then you couldn't find cheats easily)... at first like most users I though Strangetown is the real one, but nah she wasn't (has no connections) Then, at the time when Apartment Life came out, EA/Maxis published that Bella Goth dairy online - which seemed like it was made up in 2 weeks just to fill gaps in the game... and yet even then, you couldn't retrieve her back I agree this brought her fame & to the game itself in general, but still... I missed her a lot

[@sleekoduck]

The Pleasantview and Strangetown stories came from the classic German movie Metropolis, which happens to turn 100 this year. 😎

[@cutiepiettvjackson8744]

This influential German science-fiction film presents a highly stylized futuristic city where a beautiful and cultured utopia exists above a bleak underworld populated by mistreated workers. When the privileged youth Freder (Gustav Fröhlich) discovers the grim scene under the city, he becomes intent on helping the workers. He befriends the rebellious teacher Maria (Brigitte Helm), but this puts him at odds with his authoritative father, leading to greater conflict.

[@caitlin8274]

I love that quote! “If you don’t know what somethings about, it’s about money” I’m gonna remember that. It’s so true

[@Sheik-yo9fj]

This is one my favorites videos from you

[@koololdster]

Very interesting! You really put a lot of thought into this. I appreciate that.

[@99geck]

9:19 Sorta off topic lol but there are actually 2 male voices, its hard to describe what they sound like so i'll just compare it to TS4. one kinda sounds like the "brash" voice from 4 and the other sounds more like the "clear" one. The "brash" one in 2 does seem more common tho, dunno why but its like every townie has it lmao

[@mireiacastillo3970]

i think as u said that was a marketing move make Bella disapear, also idk why but i feel that since sims 1 Bella has been trated as the perfection, the ideal sim like wiht her name, the game descripctio: "Elegant and athletic are two qualities that describe Bella. She enjoys a variety of activities from golf to miniature golf.", plus since the begining Goth family have been on the game, they got even relatives in pets sims 1 expansion, their house is enormous and the only one which has graveyards ... was the perfect scenario to creat a mistery, not just for her disapearing plus we never see her growing or "decadence" like she still perfect, never cheated her husband, never had an argument/fight with other sim etc and they still exploting this. In fact i thought that her mystery was part of the gameplay and this was one of the reasons we could resurrect sims to solve the it (i mean specially premade dead sims) which its funny bc this is one of the tones of causes which can cause the corruption of the game XD we complain about sims 3 or 4 but damn in sims 2 u can corrupt the whole game doing little nornal things

[@joeyveegs7124]

Maybe the aliens genetically modified Bella so when she arrives in Strangetown she is more conventionally attractive and they can use her offspring for their experiments. Haha I know this never really happened :P I just love theorising about Bella. When I was a kid, I'd move her into a lot in Strangetown, remove the lot from Strangetown and put it into Pleasantview and move her back in with her family, but they were always just like 'Who the hell is that?'. Not exactly the big reunion I hoped for!

[@Whatareevenbirds]

someone has to send this video to Juno Birch omg

[@Marticore]

omg

[@matejznidarsic9096]

Why?

[@hkazu63]

My personal storytelling is that Bella died under mysterious circumstances and Mortimer is delusional about her fate, believing it must be aliens. As he was a scientist before retiring, his grief overtook him and he attempted to clone her in some way, but after creating a first successful clone, he regretted it and rejected the new Bella. The new Bella eventually left for Strangetown and decided to begin a life there. I usually end up changing her name to smth familiar but different, to signify her rejecting the identity of being Bella Goth.

[@Emre-go3iw]

Just found out your channel i am honestly in love with it

[@lReMi07l]

Great video! Very informative and captivating! Thanks for your work! 👍

[@christhecustomcharacter1409]

Welcome back haven't seen you in a while

[@echowoods7977]

My theory about Bella's face is that Strangetown Bella came first, since the neighborhood is full of artifacts from it being made in an old game version. With her, the milk carton was created, then they made Pleasantview or restarted it and made that Bella based off of face 2, which carried onto the PSP version.

[@Xegethra]

Seems like they couldn't quite make up their minds. They should have just kept it simple. Either not have her in the game and have her only mentioned in lore, or only make one Bella and make it so you can find her in some unmarked quest where she remembers everything upon reuniting with her family. Instead of the weird clone, kinda fake out thing they did.