Everything You NEED To Know About Rep Wheels In 20 Minutes

[@MartiniWorksOfficial]

Looking for a set of wheels? WE GOT YOU! If you don’t see it on our site just send us a message and we’ll get it at the best price www.MartiniWorks.com

[@zeejemusic8843]

Im glad someone is finally willing to talk about this. most people just hate without any sense and i find that annoying so im happy to have an explination.

[@zampara236]

your site needs weight infos for rims

[@blackcat_go]

It would be really cool if they independently weighed them. I know some brands (Motegi and Rotiform for example) list their shipping weight (full packaging in box) rather than the weight of the wheel itself. I'd like to see what some of these actually weigh.

[@AlexMartini.]

We're working on this right now!

[@AVAV-jl1hi]

Wheel weight weenies rejoice 😂

[@AlexMartini.]

This was a tricky one to talk about but we truly want to build a place that's honest, fair, and still kickass to buy car parts from. I hope ya'll enjoy it! PS. This is also a friendly reminder that replica design does NOT mean poorly made. The same way an ORIGINAL design does not mean it was made well. Construction matters as well which is why we have filters for both! Love ya'll, let me know what we should talk about next!

[@Mrdoggy-co1og]

An in depth comparison of air and coil overs and what all the customisation on them, or sum like that. awesome video Alex love the weekly doses of this and the pod

[@mrjk0890]

So your happy to pay TE37 price's for Chinga Knock off's??? Rep to my understanding is CHINGA... 2 different countries of origin. 2 different standard of build quality. That's like selling a product made from India and stamping it made in USA. Why not just get the American 100$ bills... copy it and use it like they're real? They're reps, should be same same. Copy Casino chips and use it... Apples and Orange look and taste the same. Even a better example, People is the states Buying a R34 Gts-t, mocking it up to look like a R34 GTR, putting all GTR badges on it and rolling around calling it a R34 GTR. Now you explain that. Genuine vs Rep (Reproduction as you call it)

[@idotg2012]

Man, i wish you guys had this channel and website up when i bought my first set of wheels. Great info as always and think it’s amazing you guys created the new filter.

[@AlexMartini.]

Next time! Snag em from us :)

[@dawn_h6]

It'd be neat if the website mentioned the primary inspiration or original design so I could compare if I wanted to step up to the "real" wheel or stick with the rep

[@mcgoo721]

He really called out specific examples of reps being better than or as good as originals and im here for it. And the opposite; calling out bad practices. Im definitely ordering my wheels and tires from martiniworks now. I appreciate the lack of spin / honesty.

[@SlokeyPokey]

Really appreciate the emphasis on “construction”. When I’m looking for wheels, that’s the first thing I wanna know! I think to myself “hey, these look good for the money… but how’s it made?” Then comes the Google research and bam, there goes half an hour of my day lol. A+ video!

[@atevalve]

I mean look at Watanabes, Minilites, and Panasports, all pretty much the same design. This is ancient and some are actually super reputable and even legendary at this point. And it's not like every original design is good or quality, sometimes copying a tried and tested formula is better than reinventing the wheel, pardon the pun.

[@christopherlowery855]

Sidenote: I always found the expression "no need to reinvent the wheel" to be amusing. There's been so much wheel innovation over the last century from wagon wheels to solid tires to air tires to spoke wheels, to radials, to even the tweel, in recent history. If anything, history has shown a continued NEED to "reinvent the wheel". I find the notion of it not being necessary as a complete joke. The only thing they all have in common is that they're round. Like anything else that rotates in place. Just a bit of irony to brighten everyone's day. Cheers.

[@tturi2]

Watanabe are reps of a European design, if they're strong and lightweight (forged) they should be good

[@FoST3boi]

Yo man ur camera angle, focal length, and depth of field on the shot where your sitting @ the desk is dope as all get out! 😮‍💨😮‍💨🔥🔥 the quality is getting it dawg!

[@Issa_STI]

You guys should add how much concavity a wheel has or what “face” it has, its very rare to find a site that shows them.

[@58rr]

I agree 100% with everything in this video. I will add though, if you find yourself wanting to swap in and out of different wheels often and IF you can afford the “real” wheels comfortably. Get the real wheels. They’ll retain value if kept in good condition much better when you go to sell them. Also you can save money by just buying the cast version of a wheel. Volk & Gram Lights are both made by Rays. Volk is forged and Gram Lights are cast saving you tons of money. GL often have an equivalent design to their forged cousins.

[@gersonFls7]

The most important aspect for a rep wheel is: -what plans do you have for the car? -what is you real budget considering montly bills and income. Whats the damn purpose of $2k and more wheels just to have the car stanced? Or to not even touge the mountains you locally have around tour city? If you car is just to show why bother spending money on wheels like you are about to go race it in the next season? 🤣🤣🤣

[@mattconway8900]

Any opinions on Rota wheels. Thinking out getting a set because they come in sizes that work better for my car

[@tristantuyn8703]

Go for it, they aren't bad wheels, great price point and they look good. Just don't act like it's the real stuff (like putting center caps or stickers on it from the brand what the real wheel is.) However, I'd also consider finding a second hand set of real wheels for the same price. Because imo second hand real wheels get a lot more respect from me then new reps. For example : I just sold a new set of rota wheels and bought a set of real bbs'es that needed some work. Because I value having real wheels more than having a nice set of reps

[@muasboy]

Thanks for the ‘construction’ filter. I hate surfing the web for how certain wheels are made. Then when u find a source, u ended up questioning how reliable that source is haha

[@e36boy]

Hello from the Philippines. My E36 316i (s52 swapped supercharged) had rep M3 E46 wheels, then I bought real Volk RE30s 18x8 which is the best wheel ever. I felt bored then bought Fifteen52 turbomacs 17x8 as a spare wheel setup, loved those too but it was very heavy and sold it. As I got older I recently bought Work Wheels S1 Meisters 3pc 18x8.5 and this is my end game. I still kept my RE30s. For me, wheels depends if you can afford it, reps are not so bad. Buy what makes you happy as long you are not in debt.

[@ericlloyd7981]

Typical flip boasting about what they have, hear it every other day. You only said the last part because it's what wouldn't have been expected of you to say at the beginning. We all have a lot of nice things too however would never boast to anyone because you like to say how you come from nothing as if we never heard of the ghetto.

[@AnnCastro-r2j]

Thanks for breaking down everything we need to know about rep wheels in just 20 minutes. Great job! We sent you an email, take a look.

[@zackhorton9960]

Out here doing the lords work.

[@prudencioquinones4093]

Preach!!! God i felt like you into my soul (No diddy) thank so much to make feel so confident to my build.

[@MellowKeith]

Excellent video Alex, i hope you've changed the minds and hearts of many others.

[@danduhman1955]

Thanks, I needed this video 3 months ago. Now, I wouldn’t have been so fearful of ESR.

[@yotarip]

Imagine this is still a conversation in 2024. I’ve never been impressed about high end wheel brand. I am impressed about the mechanical aspect of REAL car builds

[@waltermiller2534]

Only question is when y’all tien not being on back ordered. Trying to order from you guys lmao

[@christopherlowery855]

Alright Alex, you finally earned yourself a sub. This was so very well said. It covered pretty much every angle of this topic. It was fair and to the point. Everything said here was spot on. It was about as objective of an assessment as possible. Completely agree, build your car for you. Well done. That being said, I'd really like to see a fitment video. One that shows how to measure/determine fitment. A video that covers measurements and tackling things like the mysterious offset figure. Like you said, wheels are a big investment for most. It's good to have confidence in the product purchased, rather than making the fitment right with things like spacers/shims, wide body kits, etc. What convinced me I didn't need to spend $4k on forged wheeles, and could instead settle on flow forged, was Donut and their failure to do any significant damage to the flow forged wheel they tried to destroy. So yeah, ~$1500 will do most of us right unless we're running over floorjacks in the middle of the highway at 70mph. At that point, I don't even think forged wheels will save you. Great vid, love to see it. Will be checking out the website if I need wheels in the future. (Which I will). Cheers.

[@marklukedeguzman]

Planning to buy avid brand avid avo6 te37 copy design.. do you have any expi on that brand?😊

[@avalanchecapital]

😂😂😂 these Rep TE37s slap

[@sacredgear]

This is good. I like a good set of te37s just as much as the next guy, but im at the point where I don't see a point anymore in spending 4-5k+ on wheels just roll around and get nods at meets. When did it become cool to spend more money on wheels that what your car is worth?

[@Craiggg12345]

TE37s aren’t 4-5k 🤦‍♂️ they’re low $3k. I got my CE28SL five years ago and they make the car so much better. Still get compliments.

[@sacredgear]

@@Craiggg12345 no they’re not. If you buy used, yeah they’re like 3k. But if you want new wheels, in a specific spec, then yeah you’re looking at 4k+. Plus tires. Easy 5k total buddy

[@supaslimey4181]

It’s usually only nerds like this that care tbh. I use lensos on my drift car and they are legit lighter and have held up better than my vskf’s

[@1atinlove]

How can you figure out if the wheel, will fit around a BBK?

[@hawkwardwrx]

just got a second card and threw avid1s on it cuz thats all i had the budget left for lol

[@markhadden353]

For myself I wouldn’t mind buying a replica wheel, because I personally don’t make the kind of money to buy some real original wheels that cost $2k+ for a set if it’s a 1-piece design. It would take me at least 2 or 3 income tax returns!! As long as I do my research before buying on that particular company brand I’m okay with that. I 100% agree that you should build your build for yourself and what you want. Stop building cars for others or to be a social media build. Because those people aren’t driving your car, paying for your gas, your insurance, etc. etc. who cares what others think about your car build.. I mean if you’re a KZbin’r or have a big channel and that’s how you make your money then you do whatever you want boo boo. That’s just my personal opinion. Keep up the great videos and work for us martiniWorks

[@One_LuvZ]

Ran a total of three different aftermarket wheels for my old 350Z. First being the XXR 530 at 18x9.75 +20 (bought used from original owner of T-Pain Pickle Rick 240) and had it from 2019 till I sold t his year. Second set was Cosmis XT006-R in staggered (18x9.5 +10 18x11 +8 on 255/40F 275/40R) and loved the wheel design and at the price I paid for them ($300) and done wheel repaired and painted them myself before trading them for a set of ESR CS11 (19x10.5 +22 squared on 275/35r19). To this day, I'd run any of these brands of wheels again in my current lineup of cars (searching for my Z32 2+2 NA-T).

[@nickclashez]

I love the XXR brand have had 20 sets thought 2005-2022 no issues

[@RogueCowTurd]

O.Z Ultralegerras - Enkei GTC01RR ronal ls s/lc - BBS RS Enkei T6S - Volk TE37 - Advan T6 Volk Racing 21A - Work m13p - Motegi MF417 - BBS LM SSR Reiner type 6 - Advan RG-D2 Meister S1 3P - SSR Professor SP1 Enkei Kojin - Advan TC-4 - Rays GL 57 CR Work Jdm Concept GTX 3P - Professor SP5 Kiwami - Enkei PF01 - Konig Heliogram Watanabe - Konig Rewind - panasport - minilite Work Emotion XD9 - O.Z Alleggerita HLT Enkei TS-10 - Konig Dekagram Work GTX 39 - SSR Professor SP5 no one wants to talk about these wheel brands all "borrowing" designs. whats important is how strong are these wheels and are they trying to pass them off as being as good or better than the original. i couldnt care less what you have on your car but dont try to tell me you have "real TE's" when theyre xxrs

[@gohanrei]

There’s this Canadian wheel Manufacturer called Fast Wheels. The prices look affordable. What are your thoughts on those?

[@FadedQmoney]

This video was very informative thanks. Definitely going on martini works when I decide to get my setup. Can you do a video on suspension .. thanks in advance

[@travdripdrip382]

I love the mindset of mod your ride how you want, do what makes you smile when you walk outside and see your car. Good stuff. ❤️🏎️🏍️

[@TheRealMrRoyal]

Curious your thought on a brand like vors or mst that only make replica design wheels.

[@cjp28]

Autostrada Modena wheels are Ferrari F40 OEM Speedline rep wheels. But are respected for their quality.

[@SchlechteBewertung]

What's your take on Japan Racing wheels?

[@Tyemanpoopoop]

I have a set of Endo TS-05s and purchased them because they looked like TEs. I paid less for a simple five spoke design made by a reputable company. I am content. 😁

[@KennyJ540]

You mean Enkei? If you think TS-05's look like TE's, you may want to re-count your spokes. Jussayin 😉

[@PatrickHenry-t1s]

Have nice mid wheels for my drivers, cheapest reps for my shells and rollers.

[@dubbleA100]

People don't understand that people who are buying rep wheels 99% of the time cannot and will not buy the OG wheel.

[@GTR24]

I mean they're saving 66% per wheel

[@plorwax]

The problem is there are companies making actual replica nowdays. Im seeing more and more bbs replica in my area, im talking about 100% copying, like the stamping and everything trying to replicate the real one.

[@remone2013]

I’ve been in the game too long to worry about real and reps lol. Ifvv vs it looks good, I’m getting the damn things lol.

[@Schnarkel]

looking to snatch up some kansei astro in bronze. anyone else rocking those? im going to put them on my 2014 acura tl shawd.

[@AlexMartini.]

Snag em from us but we've had a good experience with the Astro's!

[@joshuawilson7349]

Love my gramlights, paint finish is questionable. My ESR wheels was the best set of wheels I ever own. This wheel debate is kinda crazy still being talked about.

[@sebastianmorrison6114]

I was about to do a SpongeBob reference when I realized Alex hasn’t watched it lol it was gonna be a “we love you Kevin” 😂

[@eckomob6898]

I had a set of XXRs on my 1985 AE86 Corolla SR5 converted GTS. Somewhere around late 2010. They were relatively cheap, widely available, and had a staggering amount of designs available. I was just learning how to slide the car. cheap wheels that could take a fair amount of abuse with lower costs to this day play a big role in driver development. You can't aggressively commit while worrying about getting a scratch on your new TE 37s.😊

[@skythundersky1544]

Ou yeah here we go. Almost went through withdrawal

[@ItsDaJax]

Who cares if it's a rep, wheels be mad expensive. Is it sturdy, is it light, that's all that matters. If you see somebody with reps and it makes you quesy, instead of shaming them for it, take the measurements, their address, and buy them the real ones. Be the solution to your own problem.

[@Mrdoggy-co1og]

I love watching this content and the martiniworks channels great vid Alex and a well spent 20 minuites

[@AlexMartini.]

[@wheresmy10mm]

You guys need more 4x110 rims cries in fb rx7

[@advd6657]

I would say t6r are more inspired than reps imo you can clearly tell the difference it’s like saying 57dr are te reps(not coping I don’t own them)

[@thedetailingdoctor5746]

What happens to fitment industries? I saw you on that channel originally

[@AlexMartini.]

Differing opinions on how to maintain a company that's authentic with a community.

[@thedetailingdoctor5746]

@@AlexMartini. good on you bro nice to see this in the industry

[@lowkeylaw]

I’ve stuck with Konig & Kansei

[@804MRMAN]

*Shout out to the Enkei Raijin for making an exact replica version of BBS CH-R that is BETTER. It's lighter ( by ten pounds for a 19×8.5 ), better hub design, and of course a lower price*

[@king2notorious]

are kansei rokus reps of regamasters or what?

[@Saponiboy227]

Just curious what do the companies think of you guy labeling their wheels as replica or inspired? Like what if they don’t see it that way? Just wondering if you guys have gotten any feedback on a corporate level

[@Alex-vz2jz]

Day 28 How to modify a Kei Truck. . .

[@alaskamc5979]

I think it is a great idea. It is nice to know.

[@kailani112]

Do you think GMRs are reps? I realize they do make vintage reps but in their defense they are true 3 piece wheels plus they do make their own designs.

[@nightingale_gg]

I see you mazdaspeed3 at 11:15

[@V1_JFN]

There are so many cool OEM and mid tier (non replica) wheels out there within everyone's budget that you just should not be caught daily driving replica wheels.

[@emirkhalis4957]

It's great feature. Unfortunately , Malaysia don't have anything near with this feature . . .

[@tturi2]

rep to me is about quality, forged wheel is what I'd consider to be not a rep, a cast and flow formed is rep to me

[@Craiggg12345]

Don’t expect your car with reps to be looked at and the finish is usually shitty.

[@R3ddyyg]

I've put OZ turismo on my Mx5 and the guy threw on some used tyres too. For 450€. I beat the shit outta od em, they look green to me

[@tylerbookwood4002]

Anyone put AV6s on a track?

[@Somber.Killer]

They wouldn't dare lol but it would be interesting to see

[@bigbunnyboi]

How about you talk about ROTA again sir?

[@Leo9ine]

Reps are an enormous part of the guitar industry. The original Fender Stratocaster has been copied by every single brand. Many of those clones are better than the original. The supreme court ruled in favor of guitar body shapes being public domain - I wonder if the same applies to wheels.

[@prettyridesmedia]

Don’t buy rep wheels… save your money

[@Mathuzela3156]

Hows AVID?

[@Alex-vz2jz]

Good

[@Somber.Killer]

They crack easily

[@juanticimo]

The only people who care, are the ones where "street cred' matters... I rock AVID, or AOHDAN any day of the week. If the wheel looks good, it doesnt matter what some kid who works at raising caines thinks about my car. When that same kid can tell me he only pays property taxes, then his wisdom will outweigh mine.. oh and I used to "roll rotas" back when that was taboo... because lets be honest, spoon wheels are expensive af, and rota makes the same exact wheel for a fraction of the cost.

[@marklukedeguzman]

How your avid wheels performance or daily use?

[@racecarsinc]

hey guys please peer pressure BC to ship my coilovers... I can't wait 6 weeks :(

[@drsuggs]

Has anyone ever heard of Auto Option Wheels they make a replica TE37 flow formed wheel that I’m interested in

[@MarkCalica]

NO!!! Enkei should be pronounced the right way, An-K. It's even on their official YT channel. Whoever sad that to you is not being upfront.

[@firehazard1792]

i mean it more like N-K (en-kay), but either An-K or N-K is better the Enky.

[@AlexMartini.]

I know, I met with the president of Enkei in 2018 haha. I use to pronounce is "En-kay" but during that time they informed me they preferred Americans and American dealers to refer to their brands as "En-key" as it's more commonplace pronunciation.

[@firehazard1792]

@@AlexMartini. I suppose if you are acting as a representative or wish to cultivate industry connections, then do what you have to do. For everyone else, I recommend the (more) correct 'En-Kay'.

[@AlexMartini.]

@@firehazard1792 It's the gif vs. jif conversation all over again. I'll go call Enkei right meow ;)

[@MarkCalica]

@@AlexMartini. at latest you acknowledged how its supposed to be pronounced but saying it the other way is so cringey if you know what I mean

[@alex.22435]

Having a problem with reps is just ego🤷🏽‍♂️

[@kotastrophie]

I see I buy

[@dvulpis29]

N 🔑

[@pontinha]

… and that's OK!

[@mautsukuda]

Enkei the company may be okay with it, but I think pronouncing Enkei as En-KEY sounds uneducated. Like when people pronounce Mugen as MEW-Gen instead of MOO-Gen.

[@mickesvensson9594]

Just look at donuts test with reps. Not what you no rep guys wanted huh? 😘🤣

[@graff502cans]

I been on real wheels and reps and I can tell that both get cracked both get vented just don't go to Compton or south central LA those streets are trash 😅😅😅😅😅

[@bGzzzzz]

99% of people who bag replicas also wear replica clothes

[@PennVvs]

Let me sort by WEIGHT it’s all I care about

[@gtlegacy8]

Tehe37

[@MidwestCedric]

Your age is showing with the "Drama Llama"

[@AlexMartini.]

noooooooooooo

[@Sliders77]

skibidi

[@Somber.Killer]

Sigma Ohio

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Imagine sending $4k in a wheels set up and brag about it, then curb rash them while getting out of a car meet after where you bragged. Use common sense, get something mid-tier and spend the rest of the money in others areas. Best place to spend the extra cash is in "seat time" at your local track

[@Krenisky]

First

[@GTR24]

Who did it first? work meister ∆ ssr sp1