Martok about marriage

[@AngryChamois]

To Martok marriage is like war... but klingons love war, so it's all good. Flawless reasoning.

[@chrismc410]

AngryChamois Marriage and even dating is war. Klingon or otherwise.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

War is exciting. That is one reason we do not stop. Neither do Klingons.

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

@Dr. M. H. The Klingon version might as well be "All's fair in war."

[@philiphunn194]

The difference between love and war is that one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.

[@Jygerthe2nd]

Honestly, the only thing that could make it more perfect for him is if his wife, upon winning the war, slew him and sent his soul to Sto'Vo'Kor. lol

[@daniels7907]

*Worf:* "That is how a Klingon lures a mate." *Wesley:* "Are you telling me to yell at Salia?" *Worf:* "No, no, no. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects. And claw at you." *Wesley:* "What does the man do?" *Worf:* "He reads love poetry. He ducks a lot." *Wesley:* "Worf, it sounds like it works great for the Klingons, but...I think I need to try something a little less...dangerous?" *Worf:* "Go to her door, beg like a human."

[@mrspidey80]

+Daniel S People always forget that in Klingon culture, women are considered the superior gender.

[@dimlightbulb10]

+mrspidey80 Yeah. Like how they can't serve on the High Council and must be granted special dispensation in order to inherit House and Title.

[@jcaliberty8288]

ha ha beg like a human so true

[@luizfcavalcanti]

+dimlightbulb10 What? TNG showed woman serving on military, The daughter of Gorkon was member of the Klingon High Council, along side General Chang himself. About inheritance, there's no canon reference that they are prohibited... the Sisters of Duras were in charge of their house until his son was of age.

[@thecraziestofalldave]

+Daniel S ooh, art girls.

[@slashandbones13]

that is the best story of how someone lost their dog ever

[@TSemasFl]

Klingon country music

[@patrickfrost9405]

@@jameswatsonatheistgamer Yes. That's why you get a mate. To fuck.

[@swanurine]

@Dr. M. H. racism doesn't make for a good joke

[@Aaronlcyrus]

@@TSemasFl I don't quite know what was supposed to be playing in my head.

[@Paul-A01]

We've all seen Klingon Women. I am baffled as how Martok won ANY battles with Sirella

[@Taospark]

TGGeko His changeling doppleganger got in a few points for him.

[@Helbore]

+TGGeko She lets him think he wins the odd battle. That's an old tactic by a superior strategist.

[@MarquisRex]

Death by Snu Snu

[@postshift19]

+TGGeko Well you see, sometimes he leaves the seat up.

[@jakep1979]

Plowbeast She probably misses the shapeshifter cause he can.. ahem.. increase the size of things at wil.

[@raf7550]

Reminds me of a line from Stargate SG-1: Teal'c: "If a dispute between a Jaffa and his wife cannot be settled, it necessitates a pledge break. It must be offered by one and accepted by the other." Daniel: "And if even that is refused?" Teal'c: "A weapon is required."

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Nice. He is so deep, and yet so few words are spoken. That is what makes a great character. I love his humor as well.

[@jaredpatterson1701]

He and Worf should meet

[@noboatnoproblem9146]

Star Trek and Stargate, sci-fi at its finest.

[@lyianx]

@@BlackDiamond2718 Indeed

[@kxmode]

"The husband is the head of his house, but his wife is the neck that turns it."

[@NehemiahDC]

Bars

[@oddish4352]

My Big Fat Klingon Wedding!

[@noneone8726]

The chances of people from different planets all being able to use the exact same gravity and the exact same breathing atmosphere are a trillion to one. Rather than use CGI to display logically credible aliens, let's treat the audience as if they were retarded children, and make every alien humanoid, just slap on some cheap rubber bullshit costume, no one will notice. After all, we are stupid, lazy, greedy and disrespectful. Getting fucked up the ass while snorting cocaine is the only important thing to anyone in Hollywood. Why create SF that reflects LOGIC? It is all about the MONEY. SF fans are worthless mindless weak sheep scum. They will eat up any dogshit we shovel out.

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

@@noneone8726 STFU troll.

[@bmaiceman]

@@noneone8726 explain how you think other aliens would not breath and exhaust as we do.

[@LeoAutodidact]

I think this was David Gerrold, but I might be wrong: "The war between the sexes will never be won, as long as collaborating with the enemy is so much fun."

[@NealX]

+LeoAutodidact Now THAT is what I call a quote.

[@dkupke]

+LeoAutodidact To quote the show House: "Its violent. Its ugly. And it can possibly kill you. And if God hadn't made it unbelievably fun the human race wold have died out a long time ago."

[@brohan914]

+LeoAutodidact haha fucking brilliant

[@bathrat]

Haha!

[@driver3464]

In the battle of the sexes, women won long ago.

[@starsword-c2534]

I just find it hilarious how Martok is both madly in love with Sirella and COMPLETELY FUCKING TERRIFIED of her at the same time.

[@Ares99999]

I see him as amused by it all, thrilled at it, rather than scared.

[@starsword-c2534]

Ares99999 Clearly you haven't seen the two of them together in "You Are Cordially Invited".

[@Ares99999]

StarSword C Then I have zero respect for Martok. A general who is scared of his own wife is absolutely worthless.

[@steampunker7]

Ares99999 I'd say the opposite. It means he's learned the hard way how best to pick his battles, when to press his advantage, and when to recognize a situation where even if he won he'd still lose. Love after all is a battlefield, and we wouldn't want it any other way. ;)

[@chrismc410]

Ares99999 No sensible man, Klingon or otherwise is going to willingly rouse their wives' wrath if it can be avoided. As Steampunker said, a good General knows when to pick his battles, press his advantage, what battles not to fight, what ground not to take, when to withdraw, when to retreat. If those things are not marriage or even dating, Klingon or otherwise, what is?

[@LostMercenary99]

As a married man... he's not wrong.

[@euphorik6]

a fantastic scene - simultaneously hilarious and thought-provoking, adding layers of nuance to the martok character. superbly written and acted, DS9 at its best. thanks for uploading.

[@eamonnca1]

I agree. DS9 is the most underrated Trek. The stationary nature of it meant a lot of recurring characters, and hence plenty of time to flesh them out. Martok, Dukat, Damar, the founder, Sisko's dad, Weyoun the punchable, Kai Winn the supreme punchable... Such a great show.

[@StefanHomberger]

DS9 as a whole is brilliant. Easily my favorite show of all time.

[@mikahael1]

Who do you hate more Kai Winn or Professor Umbridge.

[@readermike8355]

@@mikahael1 Fantastic question. I'm gonna go with Umbridge, Winn did a sacrificial redemption at the end.

[@DistantEarlyWarning611]

No truer words were ever spoken by any species anywhere in the friggin galaxy!

[@boilerboy]

There are femme fatales who could slit your throat and not think a thing about it. And then there are the ones who would think about it, then they'd do it. And then there are the men who wouldn't want to be bind themselves to any other deadlier being. Even as the dagger pierced their hearts, all that would run through their minds is 'What a way to go' with a smile on their faces.

[@wilmanric2277]

I have been a trial lawyer for just over 30 years. I rarely lose in Court. Very rarely. I rarely win arguments with my wife. And it has been glorious....

[@brucesmall2746]

Martok spoke truth!

[@Tiber234]

when a Klingon female accidentally leave the door open for your favourite mangy bow-legged pet targ to escape .....you know that shes a keeper, cos she wants to stay, let the war commence!

[@jameswatsonatheistgamer]

By shooting her in the dead of night. War over with.

[@maryhlad5277]

Lady Sirella is truly a Klingon warrior, to leave the front door open , giving her husband’s pet targ a chance to head for the forest. Lady Sirella won that first battle hands down.

[@177SCmaro]

@@maryhlad5277 More like sabotage, which I'm not sure it the most honorable way to win a battle.

[@InfernosReaper]

@@177SCmaro No, in a way, she was right. It was time for the pet to go forth into the wild and die free, as a warrior.

[@177SCmaro]

@@InfernosReaper If that was the honorable thing to do she wouldn't have had to lie about it.

[@pspicer777]

I have watched this multiple times just to marvel at and enjoy this gentleman’s acting. His body language, pacing, inflection ... outstanding!

[@mikeh7917]

I HATE the Discovery Klingons. Martok is the REAL deal.

[@jeremydaly8293]

Mike H a wise warrior philosopher,and an honest showing of a truly exceptional native Klingon

[@TheKyrix82]

Martok was really the ideal Klingon. Every bit of Worf's honor, but every bit of the rest of the Klingon's casual, laid-back strength

[@malcolmmitchell8721]

Mike H Martok is the only real Klingon and the best

[@maxorbit357]

DS9, as a whole, stands head and shoulders (and waist and ankles) above all other Trek. imho

[@guyvergrimlock5506]

i HAVE only one good thing to say about discovery klingons . and that is WE GET TO HEAR ACTUAL KLINGON ( ok fine they sound autistic as fuck , but still ) nothing else especially the design no one asked for IS WORTH MENTIONING

[@catjudo1]

Martok was such an unexpected diplomat. Among all of the Klingons not named Worf, he had a way of talking with other species as if he believed them to be his equal, or at least didn't seem like he was ready to tear someone's throat out just to prove his dominance.

[@bladactania]

It wasn't that he believed them to BE his equal, but that they were as equally capable of being his equal as any Klingon. He treated each individual as just that, an individual.

[@nightsaber99]

Every man understands this once he has truly fallen in love at least once in his life.

[@Spacegoat92]

Martok is the best friggin Klingon ever!!!

[@christopherdean1326]

Of all the characters in all of the different series, Martok is the one I want to get drunk with!

[@Spacegoat92]

@@christopherdean1326 Today is a good day to drink!!!!

[@christopherdean1326]

@@Spacegoat92 More Blood Wine!!!!

[@slavicvasenin6685]

A.K.A. One-eyed doom, and The butcher of Tzenketh III

[@LindaKnorr]

Love Martok♡♡♡!!! Especially his "...Sirella ACCIDENTALLY left the door open..."!😂

[@steampunker7]

Linda Knorr I love that bit too. You know he still brings it up from time to time when one of their spats gets a little more heated than usual. xD

[@LindaKnorr]

Thanks steampunker7, always good to hear from a fellow DS9 /Martok fan. Why this franchise seems to be so unpopular escapes me. It is definitely the cleverest,classiest series of the lot. Altho I didn't take to it stat, myself. ..Qapla!😊

[@lyianx]

haha you can almost see the quotes on screen around "accidentally" when he says it.

[@caleclayton1987]

Martok is such a great character and one of my favourite Klingons in Star Trek

[@Pooneil1984]

The best part of this scene is Sisko's look of bemusement when Martok looks away in the middle of his speech. Sisko always takes others passionate monologues with a bit of detachment, but always treats them as important and understands their meaning. For me, it is Avery Brooks that makes this scene work.

[@jdstep97]

This was good acting. I miss that. Too many reality t.v. shows going on these days.

[@ZackExplorer28]

ugh, tell me about it. >_>

[@coolestgamenerd]

@Eric Zombrow 5 years and still right?

[@OG_Jin_Bling]

@@coolestgamenerd Yup. It's only getting worse. I feel about DS9 acting the same way that Martok feels about his targ.

[@2Scribble]

I've won my fair share of battles Yeah, like making Worf part of your family without her permission :P he's STILL making up for that one lol

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

He probably rubbed in the fact that he didn't require her permission.

[@2Scribble]

Derrick Threex actually he kind of did require her permission - women run the houses in Klingon politics. Men carry the votes on the council - but the actual day-to-day functions and ruling is done by the women. Martok making Worf part of their family without her permission is the main reason she gave Jadzia so much hell. Even Martok himself said that Worf talking to Sirella about the situation (or really AT ALL) was a 'bad idea' and that she was STILL pissed about the situation. It was just kind of too late for her to do anything about it :P

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

2Scribble Martok said that she accepted the fact that she could do nothing about his bringing Worf into the family.

[@2Scribble]

Derrick Threex also said she was NOT happy about it lol

[@chrismc410]

Derrick Threex I'm sure Martok paid for his act.

[@euphorik6]

this is a brilliant scene. brilliantly written, brilliantly acted. DS9 at its best.

[@evag6370]

Martok getting sad about his Targ :(

[@arthurbrandonnielsen]

At the end of the series, he mentions going Targ hunting with Worf. I wonder if they found his old Targ friend...

[@rationalroundhead6739]

+Zack Mavro Some people keep chickens and pigs as pets. Hell, we keep Rabbits and guinea pigs as pets. And those furry little bastards are *delicious.*

[@mattender8323]

Targ hunting means that you hunt with the Targs, not hunt them.

[@charlestuart]

@@rationalroundhead6739 The rabbits or the guinea pigs?

[@rationalroundhead6739]

@@charlestuart Yes.

[@mchllwoods]

Guess that's the Klingon version of "happy wife, happy life".

[@suttone75]

Ah, Klingons. The best description of "accidentally" leaving your door open and your dog runs away never to be seen again.

[@charleskuckel3173]

"I know SHE will WIN the WAR"! UM, YES, that sounds like marriage EVERYWHERE to me!

[@aragos32727]

Martok was the best thing to happen to Star Trek. Glad they brought the actor back from his death in the first episode

[@jamesmartin9401]

Some people found Sisko boring, I can understand how, though I did not. Some found his methods indefensible. I can see why, though I felt they were at least, understandable. Some hated that it wasn't an exploration-based series. I get that, though I thought that change was good. But it was moments like this that made it my favorite Star Trek series. There were more great lines in DS9 than in all the other franchises put together. My favorite non-crew/pseudo-crew characters in all of Star Trek were Martok, Shran, Garak and Sarek,

[@c0p13dn4m3]

I for one think the creators of DS9 were very brave to change the recipe. Just how many different first contact stories could they make up that TNG had not already done throughout its 7 seasons? DS9 had superb writing, great characters and a more gritty, realistic style to it. It was a nice contrast to its predecessors blind faith in Kantian philosophy.

[@liamj2363]

Mr. Smarty Pants It did have exploration anyway. It wasn't the focus, but it was there.

[@Ares99999]

More great lines in DS9 than in all of the other Star Treks put together? Come on, DS9 was great, but that's an exaggeration. There were some great lines in TOS, a LOT of great lines in TNG, and even VOY and ENT had some good moments.

[@Ares99999]

Mr. Smarty Pants There's nothing wrong with the Kantian philosophy.

[@c0p13dn4m3]

Ares99999 I didn't say there was. It's just not realistic.

[@MsPrincesspaulina]

The Female of the Species Rudyard Kipling 1911 1 When the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride, 2 He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside. 3 But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail. 4 For the female of the species is more deadly than the male. 5 When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man, 6 He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can. 7 But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail. 8 For the female of the species is more deadly than the male. 9 When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws, 10 They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws. 11 'Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale. 12 For the female of the species is more deadly than the male. 13 Man's timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say, 14 For the Woman that God gave him isn't his to give away; 15 But when hunter meets with husbands, each confirms the other's tale -- 16 The female of the species is more deadly than the male. 17 Man, a bear in most relations -- worm and savage otherwise, -- 18 Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise. 19 Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact 20 To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act. 21 Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low, 22 To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe. 23 Mirth obscene diverts his anger --- Doubt and Pity oft perplex 24 Him in dealing with an issue -- to the scandal of The Sex! 25 But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame 26 Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same, 27 And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail, 28 The female of the species must be deadlier than the male. 29 She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast 30 May not deal in doubt or pity -- must not swerve for fact or jest. 31 These be purely male diversions -- not in these her honour dwells. 32 She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else. 33 She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great 34 As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate. 35 And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unchained to claim 36 Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same. 37 She is wedded to convictions -- in default of grosser ties; 38 Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies! -- 39 He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild, 40 Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child. 41 Unprovoked and awful charges -- even so the she-bear fights, 42 Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons -- even so the cobra bites, 43 Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw 44 And the victim writhes in anguish -- like the Jesuit with the squaw! 45 So it cames that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer 46 With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her 47 Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands 48 To some God of Abstract Justice -- which no woman understands. 49 And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him 50 Must command but may not govern -- shall enthral but not enslave him. 51 And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail, 52 That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.

[@MsPrincesspaulina]

@@missprimproper1022 You're welcome

[@williammerkel1410]

I cannot hear his name without thinking of the vile and racist things he said about pre-WWI Germans during the hysteria that gripped the continent, same thing with Churchill but he expanded it to ALL ethnic Germans who were scattered across Europe.

[@fisch37]

Parts of this really didn't age well, did they?

[@piotrd.4850]

@@williammerkel1410 History - and Germans - had proven desicively that he understated the case.

[@williammerkel1410]

@@piotrd.4850 do you really think that any other country that had a Versailles thrown on them would not have wanted to get back at them? I am in no way DEFFENDING the atrocities committed during the 30's and 40's, but we have to remember that late 19th to early 20th century Germany was in a place and time like no other, they were never given equal treatment on the world stage before WWI and were often treated like a child that should be seen and not heard or not seen at all, they were blamed for a war that in hind sight could not be objectively blamed on them and was forced to pay for everyones costs as well as their own, and territory that was long theirs was carefully stripped away for maximum humiliation such as Upper Silesia and separating East Prussia. If France had lost the war, been forced to admit total guilt, pay unpayable reparations, and had Verdun separated by way of territorial losses the French people would have had their own Nazi party rise to power.

[@tek512]

Martok may have just given the best and most accurate description of marriage to ever air on TV.

[@plincoln21]

if this isn't the truest analogy in all of star trek then i don't know what is

[@dobermanpac1064]

After 3 Wars of my own, these Klingon words ring home with truth. Today I stand alone with my Targ and Honor.

[@araeagle3829]

I had totally forgotten about that clip. Man that is EPIC! Great stuff, thanks!

[@jamesspring4610]

Martok was my favourite recurring character, because of J.G.Hertzler's fantastic performance.

[@cdowg187]

Martok for president!!!!

[@asommer518]

This is why DS9 was so great. It allowed the Star Trek universe to get to know the other races better.

[@theNewBee]

OK something just hit me. His Targ didn't "run away." His wife killed and probably disintegrated him, and just told him he ran off. in a world with tricorders and orbital sensors, they should be able to locate the creature easily. The look on Sisko's face says it all: he knows, he just doesn't have the heart to say it in so many words. "Lady Sirella draws the first blood..."

[@lyianx]

Very unlikely. That would be seen as a dishonorable act even in her own mind to lie to him like that. Its more likely that she did leave the door open and hoped the targ would take advantage and run out. But i dont see her trying to goad it into leaving or doing anything else.. Just... pardon the metaphor.. "leaving the door open for it to walk though". and 'hey, if it happens, it happens'.

[@euphorik6]

jg hertzler as martok is probably my favorite recurring character in all of star trek. the only others i can think as coming even close of are mark lenard as sarek, andy robinson as garak, and john de lancie as Q. this is such a great scene, exactly the sort of thing you don't get in star wars. just two guys talking - but such great, colorful dialog, and fantastic, almost dickensian-level character writing. avery brooks' reactions in this scene are priceless. this is star trek at its best. general martok, of the klingon defense force, slayer of romulans, who walks across broken cardassian corpses like the rest of us walk down SIDEWALKS, is HENPECKED. perfect.

[@slimj091]

They always do Martok.. They always do.

[@Norvo82]

You have to love that Sirella was SUPERVISING the unloading of her bags... No way the great lady would bother bringing in her own luggage.

[@quoniam426]

Well, Sirella is not the average Klingon girl next door, she's part of Klingon "nobility" if we can call it that way. So she has servants probably.

[@dazedream2392]

Ds9 klingons are so warm and friendly. Best bar buddies in the galaxy.

[@BlindSide61]

Had to come back to this after hearing Discovery claim they're "humanizing" Klingons. That is a statement that draws a "how fucking dare you" from me.

[@Skyebright1]

Blind Side agree there’s not really any strong characters that are Klingon like Ds9 did Martok and Gowron

[@piotrd.4850]

TNG and DS9 already did that....

[@brucesmall2746]

Martok's view on marriage is closer to reality than any other character's view.

[@LastCallAgain]

ST writers often worked to make other species more relatable to the 'human condition'... Odo's description of compromise in a relationship is another great example .

[@954fella]

When He said, "She Will Win the War" That is the story of my life.

[@russell5078084]

Of course she will win.

[@themetalstickman]

Sisko, Martok, Garak, Jadzia, Ezri, Bashir, Quark, Nog...DS9 had such great characters.

[@amarieoflothlorien]

Marry a Klingon but make sure you live close to a hospital when you are a non Klingon. Jadzia found that out on DS9!!!

[@tscream80]

Jadzia gave as good as she got. Even Odo commented that Worf spent as much time in the infirmary as Jadzia. :D

[@VulpisFoxfire]

And Quark....much to Bashir's TMI chagrin. :-)

[@kefsound]

calm down

[@aidanwow1593]

Quark found that out the hard way too.

[@paulwagner688]

Oo-mox from any other woman won't satisfy him anymore.

[@liamjones5883]

Such a great character

[@jagfine1936]

Martok....the quintessential man. (Klingon) LOVE, FEAR, and PASSION.......KLINGON STYLE. I would LOVE to see his “shoulder rock”.......

[@araeagle3829]

Martok was my favorite character next to Garak. Those two saved the show! t would have died without them.

[@Hibbs4Prez]

Hardly.

[@terryforsdyke306]

Toh Domion arc is what made DS9, the excelent supporting charactors including Nog, Rom, Barile, Winn, Garek and Martok all helped but Martok was only realy arround after mid season 5, before that all his appearances had been as changling Martok not General Martok so I would not say he saved the show, it was clearly going to keep going without him.

[@davidkay7389]

Its remarkable that martok compares a marriage to a war. How accurate

[@kerosoldier]

i just loved the relationship between sisko and martok. both were great friends

[@atanvardo5730]

Martok was somewhat a wronged character in Deep Space Nine. It is really pitiful how Kor pulled the rug from under Martok's feet and came out on top at the end. Kor acted with no honor and didn't deserve the end he had. Martok is one of the most honorable and loyal Klingons ever depicted on a Trek series.

[@2wingo]

How Klingons deal with domestic disputes: "Three rounds, no punches below the belt, no jewelry, BEGIN!"

[@KingreX32]

Whoever thought this could happen? Watching the TOS movies Enterprise and the original series you'd think the Klingons and Humans would be blood enemies for all time. And yet heres Martok and Sisko talking casually about relationships.

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

The Organians were right. The Klingons and the Federation would be good friends.

[@ILuvSmexyShowgirls]

Not to bring up policy by a former Egyptian dictator but one of the ONLY FEW POLICIES that Mubarak made into law that ACTUALLY WORKED WELL was the requirement of anyone who wanted to be married to spend at least a few days with their significant other meeting with a marriage counselor. Not only did it cut down on the population growth of Egypt, it also raised the rate of successful marriages. I think it should become law in the USA as well as India and China as well (it it isn't already).

[@jakep1979]

If a woman is moving in with me and I have a dog and she hates my dog then she isn't the woman for me.

[@Theri4444]

and if you knew from the very start that she hates dogs then you should have never gotten with her from the beginning

[@jakep1979]

@William Baker yeah doggy as a little useless furry thing the size of a rabbit that needs to be carried around from time to time?! In my book that ain't no dog!

[@cliffowens3629]

For my marriage to my Lady it was " Love me, love my horse ". And do.

[@edinscot56789]

Martok and Sisko are both excellent field commanders. They are courageous, fearless and loyal to their soldiers.

[@ishtarg8]

Reminds me of Robert W. Services' poem: "I have clinched and closed with the naked North, I have learned to defy and defend. Shoulder to shoulder we have fought it out, But the Wild will win in the end."

[@meltedplasticarmyguy]

Martok must not have known that Sisko had been married once before.

[@FerretJohn]

@ringmaster316ms I can see that in a commercial: "Can switching to Geico really save you 15% or more on insurance? Does a Klingon make a terrible marriage councillor?" I see Bat'leths being involved! :)

[@peterburke3944]

If you need marriage counseling talk to martok

[@ered203]

If the woman you choose to live with for the rest of your life does not have both the skill AND the determination to kill you in your sleep, you are either weak, too young to be married, or have chosen the wrong woman. God Dammit, I love a woman with steel in her. I will be extremely disappointed in my wife if she does not emerge victorious in our little war, but honestly I have nothing to worry about. She will. You can fucking bet she will. God, I love that woman.

[@PrinceSilvermane]

Spoken like a true klingon.

[@sportjames23]

STOVOKOR!

[@geoffwilliams4478]

QA'PLA!

[@MarquisRex]

Spoken like a true Blue Pill Mangina

[@ered203]

Awwww, do the widdle girls threaten you? Pathetic.

[@dorkmax7073]

This story is one beer and a pickup truck from being a country western

[@PhlegmMaster]

Sisko's look at 0:54... amazing.

[@piotrd.4850]

Best speach by Martok on marriage was to Worf....

[@brownblair98]

0:16 The precise moment that Sisko has the frightening realization that the Ferengi and the Klingons have much more in common with each other than ANYONE ever expected.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHKoZp2AqdGro6c

[@Fackeldackel]

Martok is awesome

[@berner]

Btw, Sirela is the mother (Anna Morgan) of the cursed girl from The Ring. For those unsure of who, she's the woman brushing her hair in the mirror in the VCR tape.

[@raymondcarter1137]

By the way nobody noticed that sisko is black because he is so well acted and written that he becomes the sisko emissary of the the gods. He was my all time favorite Star Trek character because he was so human but wanted to be noble. And the whole time i never once thought about his skin even on episodes about black discrimination all I know was I needed to see more. In fact the stories of captain Nog are hart breaking because we will never get to see it.

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

The fact that you brought it up means you thought about it.

[@raymondcarter1137]

@@BrotherDerrick3X this was tree years ago…I wonder what the main startrek conversation was back then I wonder??? Look at the post date please and say something about my post in plan English please.

[@Piriatehat]

you know it's interesting when you first discover that Klingons talk about Marriages

[@Skyebright1]

Piriatehat their divorces are fun though

[@SVSky]

"Now the general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple ere the battle is fought. #Chang Yu tells us that in ancient times it was customary for a temple to be set apart for the use of a general who was about to take the field, in order that he might there elaborate his plan of campaign. The general who loses a battle makes but few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose. " Sun Tzu

[@Kaboom-du7ys]

i am only starting to get this. no matter how many battles i win, she will win the war. god i love this series.

[@2490debrick]

They win because they outlive us lol...

[@markcrenshaw9562]

With women it is about respect. If not, then you better learn how to duck when she throws a cast iron skillet at you. Klingon women just know how to handle their men well. KAPLA!

[@belldn3]

Spoken like a true male, period.

[@dorkmax7073]

The first Klingon to lose a battle with pride- the prizes of Victory are still as sweet in defeat

[@pathfinder2reality]

Sirella "accidentally" left the front door open!

[@momokochama1844]

you can literally HEAR the qoutes xD

[@Teekoness]

Honestly, if I had serious allergies and my boyfriend wanting us to move in together and dumped his dog/cat/etc, I'd dump the boyfriend. If he's dumping a good, loyal member of his family for me, I want nothing to do with him. If he dumped my pet due to a 'mistak'e, I'd start sharpening the knives.

[@3Rayfire]

Ahhh, you may be Klingon.

[@Teekoness]

@@3Rayfire In this respect? Hell yeah!

[@TotalTech_]

His reasoning isn't that far from the truth I have always thought that marriage was like a war but its you and your partner against the world not you against them. At least not most of the time

[@maskedmarvyl4774]

You would think in the 23rd century, they would have learned to grow eyes as replacements. Or even a bionic one? Heck, we had that back in 1976......

[@DavidMajors]

Martok chose to keep the scar.

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

Martok refused to get an eye implant.

[@NWCountryGirl17]

Martok has a point a little Klingonified but he had a point men are allowed to claim their share of victories in battle but we women will be the ones to win the war

[@edinscot56789]

I get the impression that "Lady"Sirella is a bit of a snob. "Supervising the unloading of her bags", for example, little hints like that. It says all the more for Martok that a common man without any noble blood married a snob from the upper classes - especially in Klingon society.

[@dpinzow]

Martok is a very wise klingon, indeed, with great honor

[@Pondimus_Maximus]

“Inside his bony breast, beat the heart of a warrior!”

[@wilmanric2277]

I've always loved how Martok feels it is necessary to qualify his obvious sentimentality over the Targ by saying "Filthy, mangy beast".

[@theNewBee]

The targ story actually made me a little sad.

[@dboymax1]

@edybeast That's what I like about Martok. He isn't just another klingon warrior who goes into battle, but he also quite intelligent

[@momokochama1844]

0:45 did I hear quotes :D

[@Tylerpierre99]

He won more than his fair share of the battles throughout the marriage...maybe Sirella let him believe he won those battles?

[@2bituser569]

A warrior’s greatest enemy is marriage.

[@ljgav]

Really liked Martok. Great character and really well acted

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

Also Ron Canada, who was Ch'Pock in "Rules of Engagement", was a finalist for the role of Martok. Of course, J.G. Hertzler who is a friend of Ron Canada's got the part.

[@oddish4352]

Humans: Make love, not war Klingons: Make love AND war!

[@lillith3159]

More like: Love is war

[@Lamporre]

Just makes us men all the more noble, going into a war we know we'll lose, for the greater good. :) :D

[@HarPlayer]

Would of like 2 see The actor in other shows or movies recognize the voice any where what's his name??

[@EricMcConnaughey]

J.G. Hertzler; to see him w/out make-up check out the ds9 episode where Sisko thinks he's a sci fi writer back in the 50's (?). Also, Prelude To Axanar; excellent fan film.

[@TimpossibleOne]

If his lifelong Targ never came back to the only home he's ever known that means she killed it and disposed of the body.

[@daviddrake5991]

More like fed it to him. Only to tell him on his death bed.

[@Sarasdad91]

Other than Worf, Martok was the greatest Klingon of all...