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Watch this intense moment between Jean-Luc Picard and Beverly Crusher about their son Jack from Star Trek: Picard Season 3 Episode 3 "Seventeen Seconds". Comment, like, SHARE & SUBSCRIBE!
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@jeroen_vz
@jeroen_vz Жыл бұрын
Did anyone...ANYONE...expect to get characters and dialogue this well written again in Star Trek in our lifetime?
@r.c.auclair2042
@r.c.auclair2042 8 ай бұрын
I was born the day the 2nd season of the original series premiered. I quit trying to predict what Star Trek will do decades ago. I enjoy what happens as long as I can.
@BigNoseDog
@BigNoseDog 3 ай бұрын
That’s what happens when Brannon Braga isn’t writing the scripts.
@annamcnarin
@annamcnarin 3 ай бұрын
Only with this cast I did, because they had all the power this time around.
@vickythompson5065
@vickythompson5065 2 ай бұрын
Not only the dialogue, but the pauses, that are just pregnant with raw emotion. Easily one of the most powerful scenes I’ve ever watched on Star Trek.
@thesciguy4823
@thesciguy4823 Ай бұрын
This wasn't well written...
@bdrobe2
@bdrobe2 Жыл бұрын
THIS was the first time we saw TNG Jean-Luc Picard since All Good Things! He’s stoic but not emotionless.
@bigbagoforanges
@bigbagoforanges Жыл бұрын
Gates McFadden kills it in this scene. I wish the writers of TNG had given her more to do in the series, she is a vastly underrated and under-utilized actress
@andromeda5414
@andromeda5414 Жыл бұрын
TNG did her a disservice. It's clear from this that she's a great actress. This was superb work.
@harvestcanada
@harvestcanada Жыл бұрын
She had to come back this the best she's ever been.
@pamhill4882
@pamhill4882 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Her acting was amazing
@countroshculla
@countroshculla Жыл бұрын
She is wonderful. How I have missed this cast.
@adamo2125
@adamo2125 Жыл бұрын
@@countroshculla it’s brilliant to see her in live action again. So much so after 25 years. What a scene.
@davidlasdon457
@davidlasdon457 Жыл бұрын
Patrick Stewart is 82 and he can still bring it. The anguish he delivers is so real. You feel a man at the end of his life realizing he was robbed of one thing he wishes he had.
@ScifinewsDE
@ScifinewsDE Жыл бұрын
Oh yes. This is one of the best scenes Star Trek: Picard has given us so far
@lepolhart3242
@lepolhart3242 Жыл бұрын
The acting in this scene is really good. Picard chose his career over everything else including having a family as he lead a very dangerous life. That`s the price you pay if you choose a career over having a family. You can`t have both at the same time. He made his intentions very clear to Beverley that he wasn`t a family man and that his career came before anything else.
@mwfmtnman
@mwfmtnman Жыл бұрын
@Lepol Hart bullshit. She was wrong, period. Another fine example of how we don't hold our women accountable for their actions. They will never reach their full potential if we keep it up.
@lepolhart3242
@lepolhart3242 Жыл бұрын
@@mwfmtnman I agree that women should be held accountable for their actions and Beverley paid the price as well in not telling Picard about his son as her son grew up without a father. It`s the woman that gets to decide at the end of the day who to have children with and if she does fall pregnant whether or not to bring that child up with the father as the woman carries the child and gives birth then raises the child as women are the nurturers. Picard lead a very dangerous life and if it had been known he had a son, then his son`s life would have been in danger as well. Beverley done the right thing to protect her son which was her priority not to protect the interests of the father of her child.
@mwfmtnman
@mwfmtnman Жыл бұрын
@@lepolhart3242 disagree.
@vincentwarnock3087
@vincentwarnock3087 Жыл бұрын
This scene alone shows how powerful of an actress she really is. Tormented, torn, protector, mother, widow, and forgotten love. She deserves an Emmy nod.
@Ares99999
@Ares99999 2 ай бұрын
Forgotten love? Hardly. Picard has been wondering for a long time what he did wrong by this point.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Ай бұрын
​@@Ares99999yes, forgotten love. You can know someone but after a long time, the love changes and can fade from what it was before.
@paulgrove1407
@paulgrove1407 Жыл бұрын
Cool fact - Gates McFadden worked as a choreographer for Jim Henson - her credits include Labyrinth. She taught David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly how to Waltz.
@jasongradyphstiger6179
@jasongradyphstiger6179 Жыл бұрын
Really? Way to go Dr crusher.
@cornball7883
@cornball7883 3 ай бұрын
Well she is the “Dancing Doctor” 😅
@metropod
@metropod Ай бұрын
@@jasongradyphstiger6179when she is working in choreography, she uses her first name of Cheryl for her credits. Gates is her middle name and is used for her acting credits. There are some per-release articles and media from 1987 that list her as “Cheryl McFadden as ‘Dr Crusher”.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Ай бұрын
​@@metropodgreat history, and probably wise of her to use the two names
@daviddun1389
@daviddun1389 Ай бұрын
I loved the Muppets
@smcneal057
@smcneal057 Жыл бұрын
The way Picard says, "I didn't...I didn't know." You can look in his eyes and feel the hurt. Also I feel like some of Patrick Stewart is coming to light in this scene about his own relationship with his own father and how he learned that his father actually had PTSD. For so many years he hated his father because he saw him abuse his mother but what he learned years later was they were episodes of PTSD. After so many years he was able to come to terms with his father and see the pain he was fighting and here it feels like he realizes that now.
@Ein_Kunde_
@Ein_Kunde_ 10 ай бұрын
Total nonsense. He is an actor.
@asciiavatar
@asciiavatar Жыл бұрын
It really hits home that scene from Star Trek: Generations when Picard learns his brother and nephew had died. Picard had frequently dropped hints that there were times he regretted not having a family but was secure in the belief that the Picards would continue through his nephew Renee. When he lost them, he agonized over the realization that there would be no more Picards. Can understand his anger/shock over learning he has a son.
@johnpglackin345
@johnpglackin345 Жыл бұрын
This is not Picard but a robot.
@danielhaire6677
@danielhaire6677 11 ай бұрын
@@johnpglackin345 Picard in a synthetic android body that allows him to still feel motions the same as an ordinary human being.
@johnpglackin345
@johnpglackin345 11 ай бұрын
@@danielhaire6677 an artificial being cannot feel emotions.
@danielhaire6677
@danielhaire6677 11 ай бұрын
@@johnpglackin345 Why? In TNG, the scientist who invented the android developed a means for them to have emotions a long way back in the series. Why wouldn't a more advanced body with an individual's mind transferred to it have issues with feelings?
@johnpglackin345
@johnpglackin345 11 ай бұрын
@@danielhaire6677 because it's unrealistic. And you can't transfer someone's soul into a robot. It's perversion.
@bluerhizome
@bluerhizome Жыл бұрын
Imagine that, good writing leads to great performances. If only this show could've been this 2 seasons ago.
@felixcolon599
@felixcolon599 Жыл бұрын
Are the first 2 seasons that bad?
@jarrodskufcagaming5203
@jarrodskufcagaming5203 Жыл бұрын
@@felixcolon599 yes.
@TheRealJuseBeats
@TheRealJuseBeats Жыл бұрын
@@felixcolon599 yes.
@RyanSellman1
@RyanSellman1 Жыл бұрын
​@@felixcolon599 I don't think they're that bad.
@quiett6191
@quiett6191 Жыл бұрын
@@RyanSellman1 Compared to the CW, sure
@franzhaas3712
@franzhaas3712 Жыл бұрын
It toke almost 35 years for Gates McFadden to deliver amazing dialoge. (NOT her falt of course ). This is what happens when great writing and great acting meet. Bravo!
@SR-iy4gg
@SR-iy4gg Жыл бұрын
took, not toke
@franzhaas3712
@franzhaas3712 Жыл бұрын
@@SR-iy4gg Thank you.
@Mistardmuster
@Mistardmuster Жыл бұрын
Something I thought about when watching this was how lucky these two were to have known and trusted each other for so long to do a scene that feels so real and vulnerable. This really felt like two people having a conversation, realizing the choices and the regrets they have to face 20 years later. I don't think you could have had that with actors who had only first met and were doing this kind of thing just as a job.
@Ein_Kunde_
@Ein_Kunde_ 10 ай бұрын
Total nonsense. They arw actors and do what they are told for money.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Ай бұрын
​@@Ein_Kunde_don't be silly
@borgcube
@borgcube Жыл бұрын
This scene has a major impact. The way the two actors play, especially Gates, left me speechless. I rewatched the scene several times. She is an extraordinary actress. This scene alone would deserve an award
@resiplayerz
@resiplayerz Жыл бұрын
Agreed, also Patrick Stewart was fantastic, that look on his face said a thousand words and conveyed his anger, shock & disappointment all in one go. If looks could kill.
@LuisRodz87
@LuisRodz87 Жыл бұрын
Are you people serious? She can barely even have a facial expression with whatever she did to her face.
@youtubewatchin8869
@youtubewatchin8869 Жыл бұрын
Chill with the awards. Every youtube video, its ".Lets give X woman a reward.." At this point it means nothing.
@littlebitofhope1489
@littlebitofhope1489 Жыл бұрын
@@LuisRodz87 If she didn't do that to her face, she would not be there and you would not see her at all. That's not her fault. That it ruins her acting is also not true.
@MrArcadia2009
@MrArcadia2009 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a scene. That should have had a very lofty award.
@timothyserabian5103
@timothyserabian5103 Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people here making comparisons to wrath of Khan, and to a degree they are right. However, I will say this: Carol Marcus specifically told Kirk to not be a part of David’s life. Kirk at least knew that he had a child, but he knew to respect Carol’s wishes as his mother. Here, Picard never got that choice. Both men missed out on being a father, but at least Kirk was aware of it and had closure. Picard didn’t get any of that, making this all the more tragic.
@iaingirling9530
@iaingirling9530 Жыл бұрын
Kann cun66
@nephalos666
@nephalos666 Жыл бұрын
Typical woman apparently. Even 350 years in the future, they still insist on not telling the father the truth.
@kthecarrot
@kthecarrot Жыл бұрын
Making decisions from a place of fear is always going to come out worse. This was great acting, great writing, and great communication. I love it when people talk about their problems like adults and skip the angst drama, no matter who is right/ wrong. Just talk it out.
@chuchulainn9275
@chuchulainn9275 Жыл бұрын
Not always. Ignoring fear is just another extreme.
@littlebitofhope1489
@littlebitofhope1489 Жыл бұрын
People don't change that much. She was right.
@evos469
@evos469 Жыл бұрын
​@@littlebitofhope1489 in hindsight to the rest of the episode she screwed Jack and Picard up with her action
@scionofdorn9101
@scionofdorn9101 Жыл бұрын
@@chuchulainn9275 Nobody said to ignore it, they said the CONFRONT it.
@scionofdorn9101
@scionofdorn9101 Жыл бұрын
@@littlebitofhope1489 No she wasn't. She fucked up big time.
@JKeats82
@JKeats82 Жыл бұрын
"I lost my parents, then a husband, then my son Wesley - ALL to the same stars that own you." I will never forget this scene, superb acting; raised the hair on my arms.
@danielanderson8322
@danielanderson8322 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about her parents. That adds a whole new element to her decision as well as her pain
@jameschou7342
@jameschou7342 10 ай бұрын
Wesley is time travelling
@JKeats82
@JKeats82 10 ай бұрын
@@jameschou7342 And as such, she lost him.
@jameschou7342
@jameschou7342 10 ай бұрын
@@JKeats82 higher plane of existence. At least he can stop by to hang out with Jack if they do the new TV show.
@Ein_Kunde_
@Ein_Kunde_ 10 ай бұрын
She is an egoist. All about ME ME ME and what IIIII lost.
@marknan5352
@marknan5352 Жыл бұрын
That long pause at the start was really loud. Had heard about this scene, now watching it , I am astounded at the talents. Amazing.
@r0bw00d
@r0bw00d Жыл бұрын
I love it when shows/movies do that. It always makes you wonder who's going to speak first, only to realize that they were never not speaking.
@ScifinewsDE
@ScifinewsDE Жыл бұрын
For once the writers seem to know about the power of silence 👍
@tjjordan4207
@tjjordan4207 9 ай бұрын
There is one thing that Beverly never took into account and that’s how Picard would have reacted to knowing that he was going to be a father. Yes, she is correct that he always has jumped at the opportunity to help the Federation or anyone in dire need, but she never understood why. It was because it gave him purpose. But the one purpose he never felt or was confronted with was being a father.
@1978rharris
@1978rharris Жыл бұрын
Christ!!! This was some powerful acting brought on from some wonderful writing. To see these two characters at such odds is akin to watching your parents having a massive bust up. It’s painful.
@MrGrownman455
@MrGrownman455 Жыл бұрын
"I knew I could protect my child but I didn't know if I could protect yours" 😮 Amazinggggg!!!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@IronMan-wz8dx
@IronMan-wz8dx Жыл бұрын
What the? That's the worst logic ever. This whole story on a illogical idea? I hope not.
@olaminabryan8026
@olaminabryan8026 Жыл бұрын
​@@IronMan-wz8dx Maybe you just don't understand so I'll explain it to you. Beverly was winding down her starfleet career and knew she could chill with her child. Jean luc wasn't even close to done with starfleet as he was trying to save BILLIONS of romulans from the romulan supernova while being chased by assassins and almost being murdered every other day. If they knew he had a son then she wouldn't be able to keep him safe. But without him knowing then the kid can be safe.
@IronMan-wz8dx
@IronMan-wz8dx Жыл бұрын
@@olaminabryan8026 I guess Ill give it some weight but sad to say the other members of starfleet in positions of power. Not only that but the additional child support from starfleet. I know I'm trying to bring it down to the present but that's also in line with what they have done. The son that doesn't know his father until he's older. We'll see how the rest of the story ties in.
@MrGrownman455
@MrGrownman455 Жыл бұрын
@Iron Man I wasn't justifying Beverly's actions but the acting and writing in this one scene was perfect. Oscar worthy acting in this scene
@shauntempley9757
@shauntempley9757 Жыл бұрын
@@IronMan-wz8dx Well, if Picard knew of his kid, he would have ended up as bad as Raffi is, because she gave up a husband and son the moment she stepped on the Verity to help the Romulan evacuation. He would have lost a ship and failed a mission, and probably triggered war with the Romulan Star Empire, on top of the impending supernova. Do not forget, Spock acted to contain the damage from the same supernova after it happened. A war would have meant he would not be anywhere near able to contain the fallout, which meant that many more worlds would have burned, and far more lives lost.
@andrewtang6318
@andrewtang6318 Жыл бұрын
I think some people miss the point that she was trying to get across. She wasn’t scared because it was her child, she was scared because the child was HIS. Picard is such a bigger than life character, a legend and a hero, his child would always be a target and in danger - more so than herself or even Wesley. Saying that, her reasoning was weak. To cut out everyone in her life for 20 years - she should have trusted her crew and friends to help her. There must be more to it than this.
@BBDoesTheThing
@BBDoesTheThing Жыл бұрын
I sure hope so because it doesn't look good for her.
@nathanvalle6997
@nathanvalle6997 Жыл бұрын
I largely agree. Lets break it down again. Would Picard permanently retire and be a family man? How do we know that people still wouldn't come after him even in retirement? (He had ex Tal Shiar agents living full time in his house for this very reason) If he was still commissioned in Starfleet, would he be ok having a detached relationship with his son while taking big risks? (Like Kirk and his son) Now looking at it from a world building view, there is a reason why starfleet ships don't have families on them anymore. We can see this viscerally when Captain Sisko loses his wife Jennifer in the battle of Wolf 359. SISKO WAS GOING TO RESIGN OVER THE DEATH OF HIS WIFE AND THE NEAR LOSS OF HIS SON. Hell the only reason Sisko and O'brian had their families on DS9 was because it was assumed that station life would have been slower and less dangerous. Little did they know DS9 would be a centerpiece to the Dominion War. The peaceful era of the mid 24th century, heralded by the hotelesque Galaxy Class is over. The Post-Dominion War / Post-Romulan Empire galaxy is a far more dangerous place now. Starfleet isn't a place to raise a family anymore. Would you want to raise a family on a fleet flagship, with a man who is the face of starfleet, and dealing with the "adventure of the week" constantly threatening to end him and your family? Im never going to argue that what Beverly did WASN'T fucked up. What she did certainly was. It is absolutely not fair that she made the decision for him. She did not give him a chance. But I'm not going to argue that her logic and her fears are utterly invalid like many people are.
@oculosprudentium8486
@oculosprudentium8486 Жыл бұрын
No, I totally disagree with you about Beverly. As she said and listed out the important people in her lives that she lost while serving in Starfleet, exposing and revealing that she had a son with Picard would have exposed both of them to the most extreme dangers! She did consider trying to reach out to him at several times, but at every turn, Picard was being thrown into one galactic crisis after another. And that sealed her decision to remain in exile and separated from her old friends, but with the literal deadly secret of her son in her old age!
@pullybungieharder
@pullybungieharder Жыл бұрын
She's had 20 years to rationalize, she's gotten good at it.
@danielkubin3878
@danielkubin3878 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but I dont buy this explanation, unless is there something more, its simply poor writing and poor rip off of Star trek II scene with Kirk and Carol. I would maybe believe that if she was not itself a starfleet officer, head of starfleet medical, chief of medical officer on Enterprise for about 20 years! She was same targed as him because she was hell of expert in her field, she was involved in lot of cover starfleet operations, danger operations, she knew the risks and she know Picard for about 20 years. She was no Carol Marcus at this point.
@Kinglore2000
@Kinglore2000 Жыл бұрын
I can see where both sides were coming from.... But I'm gonna have to take Picard's side on this one. If you're gonna be a Dad, you have a right to know.
@ohauss
@ohauss Жыл бұрын
Especially since the notion she could protect Jack from all dangers evidently turned out to be a pipe dream. As much as a son of Jean-Luc Picard might have had a target on his back, he'd also have plenty of support watching said back.
@iaingirling9530
@iaingirling9530 Жыл бұрын
Picard, my father, Jack Picard, uss Melbourne
@Leonnie13
@Leonnie13 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Had she actually talked to him at the time about her fears they might have found a way to overcome them. She was in the wrong.
@therealbahamut
@therealbahamut Жыл бұрын
You can tell how much these actors missed these roles. Worf, Geordi, Beverly...They've all dropped right back into the characters without missing a beat, even when required to play their newly developed personalities and advanced ages.
@YD-uq5fi
@YD-uq5fi Жыл бұрын
"And then Starfleet asked you to negotiate with the Praetor" So it is technically all Janeway's fault.
@EvanCops
@EvanCops Жыл бұрын
no its not.
@Ihaveaglitch
@Ihaveaglitch Жыл бұрын
As is tradition.
@scionofdorn9101
@scionofdorn9101 Жыл бұрын
That monster can ruin ANYTHING!
@thatguyfromcetialphaV
@thatguyfromcetialphaV 26 күн бұрын
'You should eat Haaaaaaryyyy!!!'
@reubencarter3004
@reubencarter3004 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Admiral's Kirk's discussion with Carol Marcus after discovering her senior researcher was actually his son.
@Mokkari77
@Mokkari77 Жыл бұрын
At least Kirk knew he had a son. Their son was the one who didn't know Kirk was his dad.
@tringuyen7519
@tringuyen7519 Жыл бұрын
Actually, this was done even better. I like Dr. Crusher’s point of view. It’s a great argument between 2 people who genuinely care about each other.
@Marialla.
@Marialla. Жыл бұрын
@@Mokkari77 You're the second person I've seen make that claim that Kirk knew. I don't understand why, since that was a huge important scene in that movie, was Kirk finding out he had a GROWN son, that he never got to know existed. Kirk was not given a choice. I'm genuinely curious why several people are remembering it differently from how I remember it went.
@Mokkari77
@Mokkari77 Жыл бұрын
@@Marialla. Because Kirk asks Carol "Is that David?" After the young man who just attacked him called her "mother". Then later when he's alone with her Kirk says "I did what you wanted. I stayed away. Why didn't you tell him?" And if he didn't know he'd be outraged like Picard instead of feeling sad that his son tried to kill him.
@pderham26
@pderham26 Жыл бұрын
Incredible observation. You think maybe this season is influenced by WoK?!
@helmsly2010
@helmsly2010 11 ай бұрын
This is such a well written and acted scene and it was amazing to see these two characters talking to each other again after all these years. I specially like the power in Picard's voice when he said "You don't get to condemn people before the fact".
@lelandd.295
@lelandd.295 Жыл бұрын
A lot of great moral points made by both characters. True, Picard may have led a very different life had he been raising children. But also true, because of his position, any children of his would have been targets for enemies of UFP, Starfleet, or even had enormous expectations placed on them b y those who knew Jean-Luc. Both are right, and yet neither are wrong. Great writing AND great performances.
@zoso1980
@zoso1980 Жыл бұрын
She's still wrong. She denied him his voice and the opportunity to have a life watching his son grow. Crusher gets NO pass on this. Her reasons were selfish, his were not. Don't justify her character's outrageous behavior.
@Scipio488
@Scipio488 Жыл бұрын
I found her reply admirably restrained. I certainly understand his anger, but the fact that his first thought is about himself and his rights rather than their child and its safety kind of makes her point.
@zoso1980
@zoso1980 Жыл бұрын
@@Scipio488 So, if a mother feels justified (for reasons true or not), the father can be cut out with no moral responsibility and denying someone their voice. Got it. Very progressive.
@scionofdorn9101
@scionofdorn9101 Жыл бұрын
And yet, she cut him out and Jack was STILL a target. Big "oof" on her part.
@plspriska
@plspriska 8 ай бұрын
It makes her into a coward. Beverly Crusher was fearless. Shes a howard, not a coward. This is how she treats her BEST FRIEND?? what an awful character destruction.
@andrewstephen2359
@andrewstephen2359 Жыл бұрын
It occurs to me she fell pregnant shortly after the relentless slaughter of the Dominion war and the events of Nemisis where a clone of Picard wrought such chaos. Woman has seen a lot of trauma and violence. Maybe she reached her limit.
@scionofdorn9101
@scionofdorn9101 Жыл бұрын
THAT is a legitimate argument. Still, she made a huge error, but fear makes people irrational. It doesn't excuse her, but it does EXPLAIN her.
@boogienightsmarkwahlberg6011
@boogienightsmarkwahlberg6011 5 ай бұрын
No, no amount of excuses can ever make Beverly out to be heroic or offer justification.
@CoolsBreeze
@CoolsBreeze Жыл бұрын
Casperia Prime must truly be beautiful. They've mentioned it many times as being better than Risa.
@hawkstringfellow
@hawkstringfellow Жыл бұрын
Picard has so much emotional power in this scene...
@hermes_logios
@hermes_logios Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing character arc by amazing actors.
@pderham26
@pderham26 Жыл бұрын
This isn't an arc. This is part of one.
@shiningbluenebula
@shiningbluenebula 6 ай бұрын
Excellent acting.
@ghfun1
@ghfun1 Жыл бұрын
Beverly & Picard Riker & Picard all were amazing. I love my TNG crew ❤
@theo-jamesmoulton2000
@theo-jamesmoulton2000 Жыл бұрын
I like how after the mention of the third attempt on his life he goes silent. it's like he's going 'hmm maybe she has a point'
@gomez6223
@gomez6223 Жыл бұрын
"I'm beginning to see a pattern here..."
@BBDoesTheThing
@BBDoesTheThing Жыл бұрын
And he could of learned that point 20 years sooner.
@warblerab2955
@warblerab2955 Жыл бұрын
A question do you think would be acceptable for a man to keep some secret like from his wife/girlfriend? What would we say if the shoe were on the other foot and it was Picard making decisions about Beverly Crusher and whether or not she should know that she has a son(I realize that biology renders such a question mote, but still consider it hypothetically)
@jamesmartin9401
@jamesmartin9401 Жыл бұрын
And yet, Jack's wanted and hunted. How'd that turn out.
@gomez6223
@gomez6223 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmartin9401 Hmm. Maybe it really is genetics :)
@Koulnis
@Koulnis Жыл бұрын
I am gonna come out and say it-- we got glimpses of the older Picard here. It was wonderful to see ebb through.
@adamo2125
@adamo2125 Жыл бұрын
Yep I felt the scene. As soon as he said “you don’t get…” I though OH this 100% fucking Jean Luc Picard.
@pderham26
@pderham26 Жыл бұрын
We saw Picard the past two episodes. Why are you gonna "come out and say it" based on this scene like it's some special announcement?
@Koulnis
@Koulnis 6 күн бұрын
@@pderham26 Because it is special. He was tenacious here because it was about him at a core that he never knew.
@scionofdorn9101
@scionofdorn9101 Жыл бұрын
Amazing scene, but Picard was right. Beverly had no right to make that choice for him. She let fear rule her, and she didn't consider that if they were together, maybe they could have protected EACH OTHER (like spouses ought to), that they would be STRONGER together. She never gave Jean Luc a chance to truly BE her PARTNER. He's absolutely right to be outraged and hurt. She acted out of cowardice, and look at all the good it did her anyway. It's didn't make her and their son safer after all.
@nathandeluca9215
@nathandeluca9215 Жыл бұрын
Incredible scene!!! The best acting brought out by these two!! 👏
@agerard6297
@agerard6297 Жыл бұрын
“We’re we together? Were we going to be? You had your life and I had mine. And I wanted him in mine. Not chasing around space like his father.”
@stevefreeman9265
@stevefreeman9265 Жыл бұрын
That was some of the best dialog I have heard in a very, very long time
@zoso1980
@zoso1980 Жыл бұрын
Well acted, great dialogue, disastrous for the characters though. Changing how the audiences feels about them, and has long term implications that reveals internal flaws and a weak internal moral compass. Also, revealing the willingness to betray someone you loved at a massive level. It ruins Beverly's character, no matter if you sympathize with her motives. She didn't get to make that choice. The special connection you saw between them in TNG, the respect, kindness and depth. It showed she was selfish and felt justified to do it, and that bedrock of that relationship was a lie. Zero moral discomfort with taking his voice and his opportunity to have the family he yearned for. TNG is tainted now, knowing Beverly betrayed Picard and tried to gaslight him it's his fault. Terrible decision to reveal a betrayal like this which damages the character's moral center. Ugh. The 24th century still has people that feel entitled to deny their children the other parent for selfish motives. Wonderfully optimistic NuTrek. Thanks. I guess S2 is still ok for Dr. Pulaski.
@mgtowmonger2729
@mgtowmonger2729 5 ай бұрын
happens every single day multitudes of time in family court... go sit in on your local family court and watch for a few days. you'll see some of the best acting from women like dr beverly in action.
@joem4585
@joem4585 Жыл бұрын
This is really well done and all, but the whole episode, especially with the nebula setup, I just kept thinking "this is straight-up Wrath of Khan with Picard instead of Kirk"
@rade-blunner7824
@rade-blunner7824 Жыл бұрын
The whole scenario feels intentionally derivative, it'd be not so bad if we hadn't already had so much of that from Star Trek in the past 20 years with both Nemesis and Into Darkness. They've also laying on the nostalgia as thick as possible, you just know we're going to be seeing all those old ships when Frontier Day comes. That said, at least the writing has improved.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with riffing off the best, if you can elevate it with your own contribution. WoK is my favorite Trek movie, but it never had a scene this deep and raw between Kirk and Carol Marcus.
@deinekes9
@deinekes9 Жыл бұрын
I think that they were going more for "Best of Both Worlds" with the ship and (Picard & Friends in particular) being hunted by a vastly superior foe who outclass them in just about every way with the nebula simply buying them time. The 1st episode even used Picard's audio logs from that TNG episode.
@joem4585
@joem4585 Жыл бұрын
@@danieldickson8591 That's a good point. For me it felt a little overly derivative but I'm open to seeing where it goes, and I'm liking the broader plot of this season.
@joem4585
@joem4585 Жыл бұрын
@@deinekes9 Hadn't thought of that. The thing with both ships plus the previously-unknown son does make me think WoK more.
@PrometheuzReturns
@PrometheuzReturns Жыл бұрын
Man i understand picard's rage fully... his face where he's just staring at her in seething anger says it all... this is a great scene...
@htownjesse
@htownjesse Жыл бұрын
So powerful. You grow with these characters, think you know them and then this scene. Wow!!!
@Spikkle
@Spikkle Жыл бұрын
The way he went "I didn't" nearly made me cry. What fantastic acting from the both of them, what a damn scene
@albatani27
@albatani27 Жыл бұрын
That was a powerful moment
@AndyCutright
@AndyCutright Жыл бұрын
Picard's right. She made the choice for him. She should have told him.
@xaviervega468
@xaviervega468 Жыл бұрын
Season 1 Picard would have been begging and pleading with Beverly. Nice to see him with a spine again. I'm really enjoying Season 3.
@checkoutmyyoutubepage
@checkoutmyyoutubepage Жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for the rest of the show. This scene kills it. I mean it’s good they’re back at work together doing a show. And they keep it in mind to stick with the script to make the scene we all want to see.
@nephalos666
@nephalos666 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The rest of the series is mediocre at best.
@Magni_Prime
@Magni_Prime Жыл бұрын
And that is why men don't open up. She used his confidence, his fears, his trust to cut him out of a blasted future.
@Saintbow
@Saintbow Жыл бұрын
Crusher was 100% in the wrong here and she stole something precious and important to Picard. Back in the movie Generations, he explains how important family was to him. Good she was evil for doing do.
@r0bw00d
@r0bw00d Жыл бұрын
He explained that to Troi, who no doubt kept it under counselor/patient confidentiality.
@junbh2
@junbh2 Жыл бұрын
She did something horrible, but I think it was out of genuine fear.
@zoso1980
@zoso1980 Жыл бұрын
@@junbh2 That doesn't excuse it, and she gaslights him that she was justified without a hint of moral discomfort makes me look at her the same way I see Amber Heard. That respect, character and bond the TNG crew had with each other, the writers tossed. Beverly became a symbol for modern feminism that, "men don't matter," because I say so. Yuck. Bad play NuTrek.
@ralalbatross
@ralalbatross 3 ай бұрын
​@@zoso1980manosphere bollocks. This is what happens when you write characters with flaws. They don't always make the right decision
@zoso1980
@zoso1980 3 ай бұрын
@@ralalbatross Brilliant. A Nutrekker excusing rubbish writing and Maury Povich style 21st Century tropes. Good on you. Nice misandry, too, noticed that in your viewpoint too. Picard and his needs didn't matter, only Beverly's sketchy behavior. Trek is supposed to be above that, you know? That better future that we BY CHOICE choose to not hurt each other. We have compassion for each other. Guess you missed that. I'd expect that in a activist type Nutrekker. Your internal 'people can hurt each other and, men deserve it' is high grade Amber Heard style 21st century trash. Shame on you for your contribution of low grade intellectual trash diminishing a core tenant of TNG Trek. It betrayed Beverly's character and her established morals. The writing and changing of the character and her personal ethos was trash, is trash and is not about about "right decisions." It's about willfull hurting of another, which Beverly of TNG would not do. But, defend it Amber. Let your misandry defend marginalizing men. Your defense of it just highlights your intellectual issues that you don't "get" TNG Trek and your apparent agreeing that Beverly was justified in lying and being skeevy in a 21st century way. Nothing to do with "manosphere." It has every thing to do with how we treat each other. Be better, do better. TNG Trek tried to show that. You missed the lesson obviously.
@BigNoseDog
@BigNoseDog Жыл бұрын
It’s pretty obvious what happened. The writers wanted to give Picard a son and then worked backwards to concoct a set of reasons for why we never heard about him until now. Gates McFadden does a great job selling Crusher’s reasons. This is easily some of the best acting she’s ever done in Star Trek. It’s almost good enough to make you forget how ridiculous Crusher’s reasoning is. Picard wasn’t President. I’m sure there are far more important people in the Federation who are under constant threat and whose children are also at risk. Do their mothers conceal them from their fathers? Of course not. This is also not the first time Star Trek has had a woman keep secret that she had a main character’s child. Remember Worf’s lover from TNG? Coincidentally, that episode was also directed by Jonathan Frakes.
@danielkubin3878
@danielkubin3878 Жыл бұрын
Great acting, bad writing(?), main problem of this show, that they don't take in consideration whole personality of Beverly during TNG or TNG movie era. Sure there was not much of characterization during this era, however, she was chief medical officer on board of flagship for 20 years, i think she was also head of starfleet medical in some point. She highly decorated officer and expert in her field. She was as much big name in Federation or Starfleet as Picard himself. So i dont buy her points. Also her husband die more than 20 years ago, she did not lost Wesley, he simply grew up and what he did or become is his personal choice. And she cut everyone for 20 years. Unless there is different reason for this, this is terrible writing from ST:Picard writing room...
@JustTanya.
@JustTanya. Жыл бұрын
Not to mention one of the first examples being in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan when Kirk finds out that his old girlfriend had his son, David, and never told him. Than of course David, unfortunately, dies trying to save Spock.
@JustTanya.
@JustTanya. Жыл бұрын
@@danielkubin3878 Her husband died 20 years ago? You're not talking about Jack are you because he died a lot longer than 20 years ago. Wesley was a little kid when they found out. She was married to Picard about 30 years ago though. And in a way she did lose Wesley because, like The Travelers, he's phasing in and out of the space and time and traveling places further than anyone could imagine only coming back for Nemesis and ST: Picard. Beverly is his mother and she doesn't get to see him so I think for her it feels like a loss. That's just my guess though. 🤷🏻‍♀
@BigNoseDog
@BigNoseDog 3 ай бұрын
@@JustTanya.Kirk knew he had a son. But he and Carol decided it was best that Kirk not be part of his life.
@BigNoseDog
@BigNoseDog 3 ай бұрын
@@danielkubin3878even you buy her reasons for cutting Picard out of her life, it made no sense why she cut ties with everyone else.
@mgtowmonger2729
@mgtowmonger2729 5 ай бұрын
this is what parental alienation looks like.
@warblerab2955
@warblerab2955 Жыл бұрын
She failed to consider one thing, Does Picard knowing he has a son automatically put that son in danger? No, He is only in danger if everyone else knows his Picard's son. Also Picard might have liked to have the family name continue Remember how upset he was in Star Trek Generations when he found out his brother and his nephew died in the fire and he reasoned that the Picard family name would die with him?
@FrauIndian
@FrauIndian Жыл бұрын
I think him having a son without the Picard name is a tradeoff he is more than willing to live with.
@gregballan1890
@gregballan1890 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning performances! WOW!
@christopherbarry9532
@christopherbarry9532 Жыл бұрын
The writing and acting is impeccable; know Jack is Jean Lucs son, I wondered how Beverly could possibly justify not telling him. And the Gates and Patrick did this scene, and I saw a mom doing anything for her child…. Star Trek at its best…and when it is, it makes one think and see issues from multiple perspectives…
@hawkstringfellow
@hawkstringfellow Жыл бұрын
She did him wrong.... she did this man wrong.....
@MachRacer4
@MachRacer4 Жыл бұрын
Well, Wesley becoming a traveler was his choice not Jean-Luc’s.
@MagicAl5F4781
@MagicAl5F4781 Жыл бұрын
But that process started in TNG Season 1 when Wesley was too young to make that decision. Watch "Where No One Has Gone Before" and you see the Traveler privately bedazzle Picard into becoming his accomplice in promoting Wesley's super-being future. The Traveler even advises Picard to not tell "the mother". It's compounded with Beverly taking a different job the next year and expecting Wesley to join her, except Picard accepts this child's request to stay on the ship and be mentored by Picard and his crew. By the time Beverly returns to the Enterprise (giving up her promotion to get her old job back and accommodate the acting ensign opportunity Wesley could have under no one but Picard), Wesley is more under Picard's influence than his mother's. It's problematic.
@vapsa56
@vapsa56 Жыл бұрын
​@@MagicAl5F4781 Exactly, well said.
@timmy13duffy
@timmy13duffy Жыл бұрын
wOw!!! really well handled - best I've seen on TV - ever - on this type of subject. And these two actors are no surprise to have pulled it off. Picard definitely changed during those 20 years -
@snufkinmatt162
@snufkinmatt162 Жыл бұрын
The shaky cam just does my head in
@johnwatson3948
@johnwatson3948 Жыл бұрын
Patrick Stewart - sometimes allowed to show what a great Shakespearian actor he is.
@rotorheadv8
@rotorheadv8 Жыл бұрын
A scorned woman remembers every little detail.
@gravijiga
@gravijiga Жыл бұрын
Never thought I would say this about a new Star Trek show but this was well done! Great actors given great writing to work with. An intense scene involving a difficult situation for them both. Notice the lack of music. Lots of fantastic scenes in TNG have had no music, didn’t need it
@talllala
@talllala Жыл бұрын
Yes the lack of music can give more atmosphere, I only wish more directors would realise this.
@MisterBlue50
@MisterBlue50 Жыл бұрын
First it was Riker and Troi, now it's Picard and Dr. Crusher. This is why it's called The Next Generation. Love it. 👍☺️
@Steve-gc5nt
@Steve-gc5nt Жыл бұрын
That's why many call it The Love Boat.
@pinchasr
@pinchasr Жыл бұрын
This is the part of Star Trek I’ve come to enjoy. Rather than have a happy crew, it gives the audience a more realistic approach on a human level. To see this crew actually have conflict in some of the scenes gives a sense of a new perspective towards the TNG crew. Thank goodness it’s not episodic. Can’t wait for more!
@oculosprudentium8486
@oculosprudentium8486 Жыл бұрын
Trek TNG was mostly techno babble and very thin on real deep character. Here the writers went into the Challenger Deep with the characters!
@ohauss
@ohauss Жыл бұрын
@@oculosprudentium8486 You missed the point on Trek TNG completely.
@peeweeson
@peeweeson Жыл бұрын
I disagree, if I wanted to watch "conflict" I would watch Pretty Little Liars; I prefer TNG because there was little personal drama...
@redrum3405
@redrum3405 Жыл бұрын
Roddenberrys idea was to minimize crew conflict. These were supposed to be near utopian humans living in near paradise. The writers hated it.
@zoso1980
@zoso1980 Жыл бұрын
@@peeweeson Agreed. There was a modicum of respect, professionalism and family. They worked together and treated each other well, become a family of sorts. You aspired to work in a place where people worked together like that. Fast-forward to this rubbish. Betrayal, hurt, denying people their right to know things. This doesn't inspire you, or make you like them. Beverly is Amber Heard, gaslighting Picard that the fact she erased him and never told him was justified because of who he was. Taking no ownership of the betrayal. I loathe Beverly now. These aren't characters you like or relate to anymore. As far as I'm concerned NuTrek ruined Beverly's character. She betrayed him, and no amount of gaslighting will change that.
@buddyr3
@buddyr3 Жыл бұрын
When Beverly referring to when she said 2 weeks before left uss enterprise is which timeline stamp point: 1.when Beverly didn’t reappear and reprise her role during after 1st season not in 2nd season of TNG due to cause her tng character acting contract wasn’t renewed till they decided bring her back in 3rd season 2. Timeline gap during between from when USS Enterprise D was destroyed during ending of last season series finale up until point when USS Enterprise E was constructed entering TNG Motion Picture Series 3. Timeline gap during after last tng movie was released and start of Star Trek Picard series
@demonwalker01
@demonwalker01 Жыл бұрын
All i here are excuses and a way to hurt him. This is the ultimate betrayal in a relationship. I’d NEVER forgive her for this. NEVER.
@zoso1980
@zoso1980 Жыл бұрын
Yup. She goes way past wrong. She CHOSE to betray him. She took his voice, his power of agency and ability to grow and make different choices. Then, she gaslights him. Her character, for what seemed like a moral compass in TNG. NuTrek has made her Amber Heard. Gaslighting and excuses, it was his fault she didn't tell him. She was justified. I hate her guts. This is not the future Star Trek is supposed to embody, marginalizing and taking people's voices away when they had a right to know.
@mgtowmonger2729
@mgtowmonger2729 5 ай бұрын
@@zoso1980 this, unfortunately, is the future of feminism.
@chaztruog5448
@chaztruog5448 Жыл бұрын
Great scene- good acting, good writing.
@theparanormalman8707
@theparanormalman8707 5 ай бұрын
All I was hearing from Beverly is "I'm making excuses because I was afraid you'd leave if you knew."
@lichen24moss
@lichen24moss Жыл бұрын
She was trying to protect their son, but he still turns into a smuggler that's being chased by a maniac in a warship. That doesn't really support her stance.
@Steve-gc5nt
@Steve-gc5nt Жыл бұрын
That's two washout kids to her name.
@chrisyu98
@chrisyu98 Жыл бұрын
can't stretch my disbelief far enough to watch
@mikaeeldolie6215
@mikaeeldolie6215 Жыл бұрын
so both Picard and Kirk spend a lifetime not finding out about their sons until the end
@gnryushi
@gnryushi Жыл бұрын
She was wrong the whole way and using a whole of gaslighting here to make it Picard's fault. He had a right to know regardless.That's his son also.
@hawkstringfellow
@hawkstringfellow Жыл бұрын
I was in tears when he said that such power
@miikaIS
@miikaIS Жыл бұрын
I really don't understand the use of shakycam in this scene. Kills the mood for me
@BENNYB-ze4dw
@BENNYB-ze4dw Жыл бұрын
Patrick Stewart is just phenomenal in season 3.
@szahmad2416
@szahmad2416 7 ай бұрын
2:55 - 25 years later, and Captain Picard can still make you feel like a sh*tless worm.
@HLsteppa
@HLsteppa Жыл бұрын
I never imagined Picard would have baby mama drama.
@thefandomrealm
@thefandomrealm Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but how the heck do you get this to load like this and not get copyrighted. I've tried to load similar style clips and it won't even let me finish the process.
@eshaw2115
@eshaw2115 Жыл бұрын
Beverly: I'd gotten pregnant. Picard: Now I know how Worf feels.
@-dimar-
@-dimar- Жыл бұрын
I was thinking, what if there was a secret daily subspace (super encrypted but with clues) backup of Data's brain that someone somehow discovered on some remote planet or even spread across multiple planets in RAID parity state. They could resurrect Data's data inside a ship's computer and get Spiner to do Data's voice over without playing the physical character. They could even name a spaceship Data and continue the character, eventually to be played by another or multiple actors as an android or a hologram.
@timphillips9954
@timphillips9954 4 күн бұрын
Life can be cruel at times to be so close to something you want more than you dare say and then to fail and loose it
@tedparr2711
@tedparr2711 Жыл бұрын
Unusually good, mature screenwriting
@faustmeth
@faustmeth Жыл бұрын
Picard actually having a spine and making good points instead of being a sniveling, sentimental apologist. Never thought I would see this in STP.
@joelww2501
@joelww2501 11 ай бұрын
If Kurtzman and his cronies were running S3, Jack would’ve been a clone of the Jack Beverley was married to, thankfully Terry is a smart writer and Jack was simply the lovechild of our favourite captain and Doctor.
@AB-ez4rm
@AB-ez4rm Жыл бұрын
This is some great writing. Acting is great of course but Patrick and Gates have great material to work with here.
@straycat1674
@straycat1674 Жыл бұрын
I swear to God excuse after excuse. It’s what the 24th 25th century?! He could be halfway across the galaxy and she could still pick up a communicator and call him! No matter what century stuff doesn’t change!
@zoso1980
@zoso1980 Жыл бұрын
Gaslighting, too. It's his fault, his profession is at fault that she didn't feel safe. She was JUSTIFIED to cut him out and never telling him. No moral discomfort, no accountability. The 24th century is showing the 21st century entitled mothers who feel carte blanche to deny father's knowing their children appears to still be a thing. Great society to look forward to NuTrek. Good job.
@X-PlaneFanatic
@X-PlaneFanatic 4 ай бұрын
Best scene ever!
@schlirf
@schlirf Жыл бұрын
Good acting on both parts.
@CrazyNights1015
@CrazyNights1015 Ай бұрын
I hope that paramount learned that we can have both star trek and drama after this season. It was truly amazing
@kimberleyphillips6671
@kimberleyphillips6671 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful acting.
@BENNYB-ze4dw
@BENNYB-ze4dw Жыл бұрын
Good Lord, If this acting from the NG series was like this, then it would have been stupendous. Awesome acting. Bravoo
@drwatsonca6945
@drwatsonca6945 Жыл бұрын
She had plenty of time to tell him when she they were both together on the ship at the same time. He was not always being kidnapped.
@rezadaneshi
@rezadaneshi Жыл бұрын
Refreshing. Very good writing
@adamo2125
@adamo2125 Жыл бұрын
It’s very refreshing.
@Creasy5678
@Creasy5678 Жыл бұрын
They are both right, but I have to side with Picard in this. The fact of the matter is Crusher took her potential worst fears of what COULD be should Picard have a son and let them lead her to make a decision that took away from him something he can't ever get back. Rather than look at the best, the potential of what might have been, with Picard as the father, the old command team with her back spoiling the kid rotten and standing between him and the entire universe bare-handed if that was what it took, all the way to the day they died. Worse, she lost her husband, her first son and more to the stars, as she puts it. She was so desperate to protect her second son that she even hid him away from the father... But Picard had a rough childhood, made his name as a Starfleet officer and grew far, FAR beyond all that he came from. Quite possibly among very few officers spoken of in the same sentence as Sisko and Kirk, even Pike. After he lost his brother and his brothers child? He essentially gave up on any possibility of family, believing he'd never have one. Not least because, oh, I don't know, Crusher was the one woman he truly believed it might work out with. But it never did... To his knowledge. Picard would have taken on the entire Universe, by himself, and won to keep his child safe. His team, his family really, would have followed him into Hell to make sure of it. He would have moved mountains and given up everything without a thought. That's just who he is, legendary Starfleet Captain or not-and his son would have understood when he had to go save the galaxy every so often. But Beverly took everything from him, any possibility of that, just because. She gave into fear of what could have been-and Picard rightly snaps at her she didn't get to make that choice for him.
@zoso1980
@zoso1980 Жыл бұрын
She's not right, no way, no how. She's throwing up worries and justifications then gaslighting him. But, right, no. Denying a parent knowledge of their child for your own selfish reasons is never right. It was wrong in the 21st century, it's obvious social mechanisms can continue to be exploited by unethical women in the 24th century as well to deny the other parent's knowledge of their child. She betrayed him. A 100x worse than being wrong.
@markdillon5494
@markdillon5494 6 ай бұрын
A hard hitting scene given that Patrick Stewart is estranged from his sons in REAL life. He's tortured by it. He's revealed that in his autobiography.
@OnafetsEnovap
@OnafetsEnovap 6 ай бұрын
Indeed. Hits twice as hard when you consider Patrick's father had PTSD from his war service, culminating in some very violent episodes in young Patrick's household (abuse/domestic violence).
@BeautifulKittenOfLove
@BeautifulKittenOfLove 12 күн бұрын
When she says : "I 've lost ....(everyone I've ever loved) ...ALL to the same stars that own YOU!".....that's the moment he finally gets it...Jack is the last thing she has to hold onto ...but Jean- Luc still has all those damn stars.
@Raniko2020
@Raniko2020 Жыл бұрын
For as "rational" her fear was of their son being a target for who his father is, the scale of her terrible and selfish decision to keep the truth from Jean-Luc is larger than the known universe. She had an entire group of people that saw her as a member of their family, people that would have burned down the universe to keep that boy safe. Keeping that from him is unforgivable imo.
@MP-in4or
@MP-in4or Жыл бұрын
Too many women think 'they' are in charge of the father/child relationship. That somehow the mother just always knows best. And that could not be further from the truth. Just ask my son who's mother walked out on his life.
@Angaraman
@Angaraman Жыл бұрын
The fact that both sides have a point, and a powerful one, really makes this. There's reasons to agree with both of them, and reasons to question whichever side you do choose. Am I only sympathizing with Jean-Luc because I'm a man too, and it's therefore easier to put myself in his shoes than hers?
@vapsa56
@vapsa56 Жыл бұрын
I see your point. But I see Beverly's. She lost everything. Everything that was dear to her to the stars. And as much as she loved him, Jean-Luc represented those stars. And after knowing Jean-Luc for 40 years, Beverly knows who Picard is. And him having a child could not only put a target on that child's back, but the possibility of Jean-Luc having resentment for losing those stars he loved so much. And in her mind, she could not risk that. And I don't blame her. The difference is Jean-Luc willing sacrificed everything for the stars. Beverly was never as enamored as Jean-Luc was with Starfleet or the adventure.
@danielkubin3878
@danielkubin3878 Жыл бұрын
@@vapsa56 I dont agree. She was also starfleet officer as he was, she was highly decorated officer, chief medical officer of Federation flagship for 20 years, she was also a commanding officer. She knew risks when she wed Jack and she was part of this dangerous missions herself. She did not lost Wesley, he grew up as everybody, what happen after was his decision, and she should accept this, be happy for him what he achieved. And she was as much big name in Starfleet/Federation as Picard hilmself. So no, I don buy this, it was selfish from her side and did not make much sense that she had so little faith in him after more than 20 years of friendship. Even Carol Marcus had decency to tel Kirk about his son and it was mutural decision probably that he was not invoved in David life. So no, unless there is bigger reason why she cut off everyone, this is horseship from from writers of STP.
@ohauss
@ohauss Жыл бұрын
@@vapsa56 Why would he "lose the stars"? She had her first child along traveling the stars. And the whole "target on the child's back" is neither here nor there. As it turns out, Jack has a target on his back anyway. The difference is - had his full parentage been known, he'd have had the whole gang holding his back all those years already.
@KRW628
@KRW628 3 ай бұрын
Best scene of the Star Trek Picard series.
@petermartin1954
@petermartin1954 Жыл бұрын
This series is great so far. I guess the first two seasons were just practice now we’re seeing the show.
@lyianx
@lyianx Жыл бұрын
Now this, is Picard. I heard him come out here. Up until now, it wasnt really him.
@gdavis
@gdavis Жыл бұрын
yeah this season he does sound more like tng his voice is even more powerful like it used to be
@paulbeaudry5791
@paulbeaudry5791 Жыл бұрын
Interesting scene, goes deep. The real lesson here is what can happen with our choices. Everything hangs on an all most.
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