Marty has LOST IT | True Detective 1x3 Reaction

[@SpartanandPudgey]

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[@johanliebert4622]

Wow, you're boring

[@VIL1FY]

The Locked Room monologue at the end of the episode by Cohle is some truly haunting stuff. McConaughey's delivery of it is nothing short of perfection.

[@TitoCarlonCF]

27:18 I interpreted it as Rust saying you don’t send a sheep to hunt a wolf, you send a wolf

[@yusufural]

Yep. Just reminded me the RDR2 line that sheriff says to Arthur on a bounty job '' You don't hire a saint to catch a sinner''. They all come to the same conclusion.

[@matthewjund3355]

It’s spelled R2D2

[@willsONfireBeats]

True. I also look at at as, "There are Good men, there are bad men...then there are BAD men."

[@c6083]

@@matthewjund3355 aw yeah the famous R2D2 line from Revenge of the Sith, when he turns to Darth Sidious and says " You dont hire a saint to catch a sinner". Classic

[@themightymufin]

3000% . . I think Benecio uses a very similar line in Sicario

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother, that person is a piece of $hit". No truer words.

[@QueenMabx]

that quote always stuck with me since i first watched this years ago

[@SarkkiKarkki]

The unfortunate reality is that people don't have good morals that bubble up from within spontaneously. They need to be installed, whether it is through their parents, community, or religion among other things.

[@SnailHatan]

⁠​⁠@@SarkkiKarkkiThis is entirely false. People have moral growth and epiphanies every single day. If you don’t, you have never once questioned any thought you have ever had. Just like Marty. That’s not even getting into the obvious logical fallacy inherent in that sentiment. There is not an endless line of people to pass down morals from one generation to the next. Morals “bubble up” anew constantly. The entire social progression of human history can be traced back purely through new religions, laws, cultural values that are new. Every single religion just bubbled up from within some random charismatic figure. The fact that you can’t grasp such a basic concept is very telling of your hubris and ignorant rance of the workd, and of yourself.

[@navarro4043]

Episode 4 onwards is what put this show into one of the all time greatest for me, looking forward to it!

[@jossecoupe446]

This my favourite episode tbh lol

[@DrVade]

Uno mas

[@TheWorldOfLeinster]

Charlie Lange is the (ex) husband of the first victim they found in the first episode. They briefly interviewed him in an earlier episode, but they just found out that he shared a cell with their suspect, Reggie LeDoux.

[@pabloc8808]

I love the final shot of Ledoux with the machete and the gas mask. The camera angle makes you feel like you're creeping around, that you're not supposed to be there and see that... then Ledoux turns to the camera and looks around, as if he knows he's being watched

[@totezmcgotez44]

“We keep the other bad men from the door,” Meaning, it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. You need hard, cold men to protect the sheep from hard, cold men who want to hurt them. That’s what he meant, whether you agree with him or not is another question.

[@hoon_sol]

It's not true, though. You can have perfectly good men do the same, even if they might be rarer. That's the essence of true chivalry; not in the romantic sense, but as in the obligation knights (and greater nobles) have to protect. Noblesse oblige.

[@pabloc8808]

To me that's just something he tells himself because of his self-loathing. He chooses to believe he's a bad man because then it all makes sense, why he lost his daughter, why his marriage failed, why he became an alcoholic, it all tracks because he's a bad man, after all. He can't fathom the idea that a good man should suffer all that. But Rust is not a bad man, if he was he wouldn't have stayed on the case, he wouldn't hold the idea of having a "debt", and he wouldn't treat the tape the way he did (episode 7).

[@TR13400]

​@hoon_sol There is no "perfectly good men" that's the point. Literally every man is flawed and every man has sinned.

[@TR13400]

​@pabloc8808 A police officer who uses brutality to get information is "bad" but sometimes you need someone who's willing to do that for the greater good. Rust beat up 2 guys to get information, but he did it to stop a murderer.

[@TR13400]

​@pabloc8808 extended to it's extreme. The allies drop atomic bombs on entire cities of people. Is that a "good thing" they did? Who knows, but what we do know is that it was necessary to put a stop the evil regimes and forces in the world.

[@--ArcAngel--]

Pudgy hits the nail on the head in describing Rust's perspective -- She said, "it means there's more to the reason why humans are good" (besides doctrine or dogma). That's the part of Rust's brutal realism that most people miss -- in this way, his views are not negative. It means that he wants to see human goodness as stemming from an internal source of motivation, not as something that can be foist upon us externally. When motivation is external, it isn't real (case in point, Marty's hypocritical behavior).

[@ericschuster2680]

23:50 most reasonable reaction of losing Alexandra Daddario as your side chick

[@Shmotivated]

I’m amazed by your ability to not binge this show in one sitting lol I was glued to my screen on my first watch.

[@SpartanandPudgey]

our recording schedule forces us to have control! trust me the temptation is there 😅

[@enterthebruce91]

​@@SpartanandPudgeyTrue Detective season one is great and people hated on season two but it's an underrated gem imo. You should check out Tokyo Vice seasons 1&2 when you get a chance, an underrated gem of a Yakuza crime drama series loosely based on true events from HBO/Max-In my all time top five up there with The Wire and Boardwalk Empire! All the best from the UK 🇬🇧 👍🏽

[@--ArcAngel--]

Omg right??? Absolutely glued!!!

[@JohnnyUtah15]

Being a resident of the areas in this season, I’m pretty impressed with Woody and Matthew’s correct pronunciation of the names of cities/towns and surnames. It’s such an outstanding show and their performances are just great. Wish that they had done two seasons together.

[@Tigermania]

I watched Matthew McConaughey talk about this show, and how he loved it but was worried that the audience needs to stick with the first 3 episodes before we get explosive part 4. You can see what he means with Spartan's comment about how to react, but next episode your patience will be rewarded the setup is done. Things will get crazy, there will be much to react to.

[@MrKINSM]

The best part of the series is the outlook of both characters, which are a results of their lives up to that point in time Rust's mother walked out on him, his father was likely suffering from PTSD from Vietnam and took Rust from Texas to rural Alaska, his daughter died, his wife left after they turned on one another, he basically didn't care if he lived or died after that when he was working in hardcore undercover drug areas. Easy for him to be jaded and cynical. Where as Marty was a semi-star baseball player and bull rider in college, fell in love with his wife young, had two beautiful children, lived in a nice middle class home, had worked his way up to homicide but sort of fell into it by being liked by all, etc. All of which gave him a different outlook and attitude towards the world. Throw those two opposites together, combined with the fact that they are both very good at the job, season it with a murder mystery full of the occult and you have a huge win of a show....something people want to see more and more of.

[@--ArcAngel--]

I love how both Spartan and Pudgy are completely vibing with the philosophical propositions. You guys are giving exactly the thoughtful, layered reaction that fans of this show always hope for and rarely get. THANK YOU!!!

[@Grizzly_6623]

Of course the Australians see Reggie LeDoux and think oh yeah he looks a little sus… 😂 he just looks like every fifth feller in the outback I reckon

[@Khay-77]

Much of Rust's disdain for faith in general is the fact that he's lashing out ever since the death of his daughter. He lost all hope so you can see how much it angers him that others look to faith for comfort when he's so miserable.

[@sleepless_160]

you mean Rust, but yeah it's a valid point ^^

[@brooklynnewyork23]

Thats faith being tested. The idea that this benevolent entity allows such terrible things to happen only for you find meaning in your suffering isbt something a character like Rust would cling to

[@Corn_Pone_Flicks]

Or he just finds faith to be a sham, as many people do. We never see Rust before his daughter's death, so we don't know what views of his were formed later, or were already there. People who value faith love to say that the rest of us are miserable, whether there's any evidence of it or not.

[@Khay-77]

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks A simple google search confirms that yes, people who believe in something are happier than those who do not. Rust lost everything, if you don't think that changed him you're not very bright. He turned to alcohol and drugs after and threw himself into his work.

[@AndyBestHP]

I think I'm similar to you guys. As much as I probably land close to Rust on many of these issues, the really exhilarating thing about his speeches and the performance is just the fact of him saying this stuff out loud. That is, it's genuinely challenging to a lot of mainstream thinking and culture in the world, and therefor it's like a release to here someone go all-in on it, regardless of if we fully agree with him.

[@lagronemikal]

Dora Lange's diary said "Yellow King" and "Carcosa" if you remember. (Rust got it at the bunny ranch trailer park) You guys asked "who is Charlie Lange?" after Marty told rust he had been Reggie Ledoux's cellmate the past four months. Charlie is the prisoner they interviewed in the first episode. Dora Lange's ex-husband.

[@Pointillax]

Something in that episode makes me shiver, and the ones who've seen it will know why.

[@PoppieLand]

I love how you're calling them the green and yellow monsters 😆

[@ems7448]

The philosophies that Rust's character projects are essentially a blend of nihilism, pessimism, anti-natalism, and a bit of tantric philosophy on the side. How much of it he genuinely buys into on a deeper level, I couldn't say.

[@alexm1463]

A running theme of every season of this show is true detectives are good at solving crime- bad at everything else. Not good for their families, not good for themselves personally- the only mental bandwidth they have is for being good detectives.

[@natecloe8535]

You watched more seasons? What was the point in that? Its like continuing to purchase powerball tickets after winning half a billion dollars.

[@arifeannor9573]

@@natecloe8535 well when you win 300 million, you can buy 150 million more tickets.

[@themightymufin]

the writing behind the pastor, thought it was super interesting. Also, reminiscent of the writing in the spiral / on the walls

[@Strider91]

I love how as this show start off, you see Russ as a kind of disconected, isolated, basket case. And Marty as an every guy, family man, on an even keel. . .then this episode started a pivot. . .and slowly but surely we begin to realize just how sane Russ really is. . .

[@hepunk]

like that line from peaky blinders, "You're bad men, but you're our bad men."

[@csgXIII]

That was one of the best episode finale in the history of television and you just glossed over it!!! I don't think you are patient enough for this series

[@glen5188]

After this is finished, you guys should react to mindhunter. Such a good series

[@Vazz]

I was going to say this too. Mindhunter is great and should be added to the list since they like this. There are only two seasons, 19 episodes total.

[@TehCream]

This show when it was on weekly was blowing our minds. The theories online about what was going on were unreal. The buzz was unlike anything else I’ve watched honestly, and the ending to this episode was so twisted.

[@holdensagan]

"We know what we want. We don't mind being alone." Every girl needs to hear that and try to understand it.

[@TheHigherSpace]

27:55 such an amazing show, I hate that it has stupid tropes like "dude continues to work while being interrogated by detectives about murder" like it happens every day

[@Kenneth_James]

Rusty understands things for what they are, and appreciates what others can understand, but he recognizes the people that understand nothing.

[@jxsh03]

You guys should check out Broadchurch too. Its an incredible detective series set in the UK starring David Tennant and Olivia Coleman.

[@ptsteelers]

One of the great things about this is that Mathew IS religious, while Woody is an Atheist. They play each other's true feelings. In a manner of speaking. :)

[@pabloc8808]

It's interesting because when they started making the show, the roles were supposed to be reversed; McConaughey was gonna play Marty, and Harrelson was gonna play Rust, but McConaughey was so fascinated by the character of Rust he wanted to swap. Definitely a good decision

[@ptsteelers]

@@pabloc8808 Yep, and there is just no way... haha

[@arifeannor9573]

And rust really reminds me of a guy named Inmendham, and he is an antinatalist.

[@avefreetimehaver5154]

eps 3-5 are some of the best!

[@OpeningsOpenings]

Agreed

[@billyhill7630]

During the interrogation Rust was showing his partner his point about the preacher. Rust is the preacher to that guy and got him to confess. Rust didn't give him salvation, Rust with his look afterwards, showed he was just earning a paycheck...like the preacher. Great writing.

[@jayzonone]

Great timing! A lunch break watch.

[@Grizzly_6623]

This is the last episode where you get to feel like you can breathe normally while watching

[@CharlesVanNoland]

The dialog writing on here is wildfire!

[@joeyboogenz]

You 2 are really on top of things. This is a quandry of dead ends !

[@MegaLaban12345]

Love the fast uploads of this series

[@sleepless_160]

Love rewatching this show with you guys... the character work is just so good ^^

[@Trepanation21]

27:10 "The world needs bad men / We keep the other bad men from the door" -- This regards the idea of the warrior. An individual with the capacity for violence, a mind for the darkness of that space, but the virtue to wield it for the benefit of the innocent. A warrior is just as dangerous as the enemy, but uses it to _fight_ that enemy instead of preying on people, as that enemy does. Rust is contemplating that it's that capacity and willingness for violence that makes them "bad men", but that they're on the right side of the line with their violent heads and hearts.

[@KenjiMapes]

Great reaction Soartan & Pudgey🙂👍 True Detective Season 1 is one of the best tv shows ever as many will attest to which you’ve obviously heard several times. Don’t let it set an impossible bar to reach though. Go in without any expectations & enjoy the ride. It seems like you two have been doing just that. Anyway, this show has some high level dialogue & a complex plot so you obviously have to pay attention. Compounding the complexity of it all is the wide usage of police lingo & American slang which makes it harder for you to decipher it all. You guys didn’t remember Charlie Lange who was Reggie Ledoux’s cell mate in jail - he was the husband of the murder victim show at the beginning of the show in Episode 1, Dora Lange. That’s the connection between the murder & Reggie Ledoux. Also 😆🤣😂 LMAO ROFL at Spartan’s comment at around @32:14 regarding Reggie Ledoux walking around a bayou in only underwear with an old gas mask & a machete stalking someone which is quite an understatement “Damn, this guy definitely looks sus.” That scene was a brilliant ending scene for the episode as it was extremely chilling. Imagine being hopped up on a lot of crystal meth while hallucinating on LSD while being chased by a near naked Reggie Ledoux in a gas mask while carrying a machete. That’s enough to make anyine lose their mind😨😱🫤😮‍💨😵‍💫😦🥴 Can’t wait for you guys to delve into the next episodes where it really starts to take off. These first episodes brilliantly set the down & build the foundation but it’s episode 4 where it really takes off to take you on a surreal trip. Also this is getting ahead of things as you are enjoying Season 1 but if you check out the other seasons go into them with an open mind. True Detective is an anthology & the seasons aren’t directly related. They’re all complex & ambitious but many expected a reprieve of Season 1 which is unfair & impossible to do. Season 1 set an impossibly high bar but the other seasons are enjoyable & good in their own right.

[@davidwilkins5932]

To address your expressed concerns, you’re doing a fine job reacting to this series. I can relate to the real time conflict, though I haven’t tried doing a reaction. You two are one of the best I’ve watched. My strong preference is that you keep trending toward longer reactions, the way you’ve been doing. I seldom bother with short ones, though I understand the desire to encourage more people toward the Patreon full versions. That’s probably an ever present conflict, as it is for us viewers. At present I’m paying more to Patreon than Netflix, so it’s always a struggle. But keep up the great work.

[@74gould]

The first 3 episodes are definitely a slower burn than the rest of the season, but ooooh I’m excited for you to see the rest. :) Such a unique show.

[@Trepanation21]

Lol 19:11 "Like putty in his hand!" and then they proceed to confidently talk over the subsequent scenes that let them know why Rust is abandoning the interview because it's become useless 😂

[@HarpoSpeaks]

As you clearly love a procedural, it’s time to do The Wire. You won’t regret it.

[@t1mpani]

Keep in mind (I'm not a detective, but I had one in the family) that murder investigations which stretch into decades are not uncommon. And NOBODY feels the frustration of "an investigation that isn't moving fast" more than the investigators; and yes, I say they're more frustrated even than victims' families because the families aren't pouring over evidence all day, every day, looking at the same grim pictures, trying to find something that hasn't been found before. I guess all I'm saying is, if you can't stand the pace of a case that takes a whole eight hours (of TV time) to resolve, then absolutely stay out of law enforcement. ;-)

[@elprimo7577]

Great video! After TD, I'd recommend watching The Wire. Awesome show

[@atuuschaaw]

Loving it! I would love to see much more from this Matthew/Woody partnership. ♥

[@xhighone]

Bad Men: There are Bad Men who do things for purely evil/selfish/self-satisfying reasons (rape, abuse, most crime, etc.) and there are bad men (bad because they do bad things to the other bad men) who are needed to keep those bad men from hurting the not-bad people. At least that's the loosey goosey idea. But in doing so, they are sacrificing their innocence and goodness and some of those bad men devolve into the other kind of bad men. It's a theme you see a lot of places. "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain".

[@chadbailey7038]

Enjoying the reaction guys. This is a great series 👍🏾

[@Nay-kp6uu]

I love your reactions to this, one of the best shows ever. The next episode is when things really start to get going. Not that it isn't good so far

[@NickThorbjørnsen2207]

It's kinda funny seeing a devout Christian play an athiest and an athiest play a Christian.

[@Corn_Pone_Flicks]

That's pretty much proof of how great the acting in this show really is.

[@pedrolopez8057]

they should look up the King in Yellow and The Sign of the Yellow King

[@fuzzy__dunlop]

If Spartan was in charge of investigating this case, he would have already classified it as an accident.

[@SpartanandPudgey]

🤣🤣🤣

[@woeshaling6421]

with every word, Rust crawls under your skin ever deeper

[@OpeningsOpenings]

I know you are much further ahead in your viewing than we are here on KZbin so I’ll just say Isn’t it amazing all the breadcrumbs in this episode? 17:08 you said it Spartan Also, children definitely replicate what they see as well as what’s been done to them- as Pudgey said. I feel that’s a background theme throughout this when you see all of the characters stories play out

[@paigeharrison3909]

I find it interesting that McConnaughy plays the irreligious one so well, when in fact he's quite religious IRL.

[@ATC43]

Some of the dialogue in this really does borderline on cringe, but Marty being there to ground and call out some of Rust's more floaty takes really makes it work. Season 2 upped the ridiculousness of the dialogue without having a grounding character and everyone spoke the way Rust does. Some of the lines from that season are honestly just comedic with how serious they are supposed to sound but end up being completely pretentious. I guess Season 2 is worth a watch just for that lol

[@HonkHonkler]

Let me guess, you like Night Country, huh? lol.

[@HonkHonkler]

NOTIHNG about the dialogue is cringy, that's how Rust is, that's literally the fucking point lol. They're opposites due to their lives and see life differently. Just have a different way of living and even speaking. Learn what good writing is.

[@ATC43]

@@HonkHonkler Never seen Night Country and you need to learn reading comprehension. I said it borders on cringe. No one speaks the way Rust does and you know this. He is VERY melodramatic regardless of the trauma he's suffered in the past. He does speak some truths but the way he presents them is often how a early 20 something would describe their life "experience" in order to sound deep. Again its not bad or cringy precisely because Marty is there to ground him, even if Marty isnt nearly as "sophisticated" as Rust comes off.

[@HonkHonkler]

@@ATC43 Sir, I did read that, I was countering THAT exact point… Huh? That was. Pointless way to start off that comment becuase I literally replied to it. “NOTHING.” Which literally means “NOT EVEN BORDERING.” YOU need reading comprehension because that shouldn’t have to e explained… WOW! Next… I’ve met plenty of people who do. Huh? Are you a real human? Do you actually interact with humans? Yes there are MANY people who talk like him. Next… Again, no I’ve heard 30+ year olds talk that way too. Lastly, this is a partly Cosmic Horror show. So IN-UNIVERSE Rust’s langue is more correct than Marty’s. In reality sure Marty is more grounded, but also still the worse detective between the two even if Rust is a bit out there lol. If you’re not new to this show, there’s no excuse for not knowing that. Very openly inspired by Robert Chambers “The King in Yellow” and some Lovecraft works to form it’s story for season 1.

[@shimmeries]

Marty is a morally bad man who believes he is good, Rust is a morally good man who believes he is bad. Their beliefs in themselves reflect in their views of the world and life as a whole- but they are both wrong. And simultaneously they are both right.

[@norwegianblue2017]

McConoughey's anti-religious tirade at the tent sermon is said with such conviction. But his performance is even more impressive when you learn that he is actually a devout Christian IRL.

[@abc123tiktok]

My personal favorite is that Marty is the religious type and suppose to be the better moral person but isn't. While Rus is the atheist with warped view of life thinking so little of it yet despite his beliefs he is the more kind and considerate of the two. We attach labels so much on what we think should be true but that isn't always the case. A fun fact is that Woody is actual atheist in real life playing a Christian. While Matthew is actual pretty religious Christian playing an atheist. I think it worked better this way for them to have fun with it.

[@chipsalom]

I've always had the same sentiment about "if the only thing keeping ppl good is expectation of divine reward then that person is a piece of shit"

[@j3ffrey777]

Its getting good.

[@AbrahamknewJesus]

What i do not understand about Rust philosophy is, if he is a conscious being capable of good, as he would like to believe, then why can't there be a higher moral being thats also conscious

[@TheJerbol]

15:35 how dare you not censor that, my virgin eyes!

[@mraarontorres]

Same perspective I have hmmmm

[@joeyboogenz]

Season 1 is by leaps & bounds the best of the batch . Season 3 is decent bt too melencholy . Still worth a watch .

[@Blackgrimreaper2024]

He said conundrum lmao

[@danielrodio9]

Kinda scary how much you understand Rust

[@mirnaarriola76]

Please do reactions to Anne with an E and All of us are Dead. They are a great Netflix series. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU REACT TO THEM.

[@Andrew-jb2ib]

I feel that Marty's daughter drawing those pictures should have raised alarm bells with him and his wife, or at least turned into a more productive conversation. I would have been concerned that my daughter was being abused, or some older kid had been showing them pornography. Rather than be concerned, they kind of shame her for it. This episode they talk about denial of reality. I think it's fair to say that Marty likes to look the other way when it comes to thinking about things that make him uncomfortable, such as his young daughter developing an interest in sex, or even that it's natural for 'good' girls to think this way. That's for 'bad' girls, wayward girls, like the ones he has affairs with.

[@Cenforge]

Bravo.

[@Julia0R]

Pudgey is so stylish! She's dressed like one of my favorite k-pop idols😍

[@stone7858]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@captainofdunedain3993]

Without giving a spoiler I must say that every character who is religious or slightly passed from religious path is either false, thick headed, vilolant, crippled mind or something like that. Their common ability is having a not strong will. On the other hand our atheist protagonist is extremely smart, excellent on his job, having a dignity. Yes he has some problems ofc like everybody else but we should all say acceptable right? Next episode is my fav one.

[@HonkHonkler]

Not really, while from a nihilistic perspective he's right, from a human perceptive Marty is right. Everyone wants to believe in SOMETHING to make the end less scary. Even atheist. The thought that NOTHING happens after to die is a that too, make you less scared when it's your turn because you don't actually know. So you tell YOURSELF nothing will happen so you don't have to worry too much about it or if your actions when alive with come back to haunt or punish you in some way.

[@captainofdunedain3993]

@@HonkHonkler I am not talking about who is right or what they want to feel. I wanted to say that director or storyteller wants to give this message to us. For example: Marty is a regular officer not so smart. He has a family and lovely wife. But it doesnt enough for a ''religious'' person! He cheats! Another example: Governer at the previous episode he binds his hands like a symbol while talking about church and poiltic. Other example with spoiler: Priest gives a speech and cheering and motivating people on this episode right. But on the future we will see him living live a vagabond who lost his faith. So another message to us if you are a religious dont rely on God too much. You might be like this guy eventually living on a cottage in shit. Also some other characters in show from local folk if they keep saying 'thank god'' the enviroment around tells us this guy is poor, couldnt find the money how to live better, eats, shits, sleep type of character. On the other hand our hero Rust everytime he says something every reactioner says ''wow''. Actually his words like a foam about god or religions which high volume but empty. Personally when I meet ppl like Rust I dont let them walk away easly from this. If someone insult the God I take it personal and until he says ''I apoligise I am a monkey'' I do not stop argue. Anyway I enjoy these reaction videos because some people are really smart to see whats actually going on. Analysing characters better etc.

[@HonkHonkler]

@@captainofdunedain3993 You’re INTENTIONALLY ignoring literally the religious citizens of Louisiana as well. You’re right the show isn’t support to say who’s really right or wrong, just how lie shape people’s differing views. But you’re cherry-picking from the show BECAUSE you’re kind of anti-religious. Rust is my literally me character and I’m not religious but his take on religion is one of the few hypocritical moments for him emit you really grasp that nihilism is part cope. Being one partly myself. Easier to believe nothing matters and nothing happens after you die than contempt and possible afterlife where you face your actions when alive.

[@captainofdunedain3993]

@@HonkHonkler Looks like you do not understand what I am saying which makes me smiled couple of times. Because you see me oppositely. I was criticising storyteller how showing us Luisiana religious ppl living in dirt-religious life. I was ciriticising how some stupid reactioners adore this Rust character. Even he says something very very stupid they keep say ''WOW''. I am a muslim who lives thousands of miles away from Luisiana. Loving God more than anything and anyone. When I see people adore Rust type characters I triggered like this. Anyway he is good person tho which is more important for me. Lets enjoy other episodes

[@HonkHonkler]

@@captainofdunedain3993 Oh then you're REALLY watching the show wrong, because the show ends with Rust softening up is philosophy on life. Still not religious, but I think he 100% as an appreciation for it by the end. Have you ever actually seen season 1? It's not anti-religious, if anything it's asking questions on everything. Even Rust's beliefs. Here's a spoiler about the show, it's subtle Cosmic Horror. So in-universe he's objectively correct. And from an human observation point, Rust is also correct. His thoughts on HUMANITY's existence or what drives people to do the things they do, even if they deny it themselves. On his mockery of religion, he's partly correct from how most people tend to operate with it, but also a hypocrite because he's doing the same thing with his nihilism. Self-comfort about the end.

[@mehmetcakir2347]

in the last scene i had got goosebumps everywhere but you missed it because of talking, so sad.

[@tylerdell1878]

They literally watched it lmao

[@rahilrameez8635]

They're from Australia, everyone looks like the guy at the end wielding the machete lol.

[@Majdemba53]

I don't see any Shelby Here

[@buckdurant5336]

Rust's observations on religion are fascinating to listen to. Unfortunately, he's got it wrong. At least when it comes to Christianity. He says it's all about "me, me, me". When in fact true Christianity is about denying ME, and trusting Jesus. It's all about HIM.

[@Andrew-jb2ib]

...to save YOU, from yourself. It's about personal salvation and a personal fear of hell.

[@kristianeriksson5825]

Too many christians are really bad att christianity. In the world Rust lives in and the experiences he collected it’s easy to understand that he’s observations tells him: christianity = me, me, me

[@rahilrameez8635]

You thought you were on to something

[@asdfsffd-g9y]

Watch Predator

[@HonkHonkler]

The Bad men quote he means 2 different types of Bad Men. The bad “men” as in what society DEEMS is a “good” man. So men not realistically not like Rust or Marty for how they live their lives, but the facade Marty puts up. THAT’S what modernity has deemed a “good” man, the family man that submits. Rust is “bad” because he has no one (so already deemed a weirdo by modern mine society as lone males tend to be treated) and his no filter/doesn’t care how harsh he is. The OTHER type of bad men are the men that chase, the monsters PRETENDING to be men. It’s an arbitrary concept Rust is criticizing about society, but also reluctantly accepting how he’s viewed. By it. Yes the show is that deep and you do have to go that deep with Rust. I get him.

[@HonkHonkler]

Remember when Rust said DENIAL was the difference between him and Marty? That’s what the “world needs bad men” comment is. To translate: “Like it or not Marty, we’re bad men to society no matter what we do. Best to accept it and pick a lane because I have a job to do.” Also notice how slowly now Marty is starting to ask Rust more and more abstract questions? When at the start he against it?

[@Hal2718]

14:00

[@peaknonsense2041]

Rust's line "The world needs bad men. We keep other bad men from the door" Should have been "The world needs bad men. We keep evil men from the door"

[@dsmith33]

That would change the meaning of what he’s saying though. Rust intentionally isn’t differentiating himself as morally superior. What makes someone bad vs evil? His line suggests it’s not something inherent but rather everyone is capable of both.

[@playermartin286]

Well thank God you weren’t the writer for true detective