An EV Reality Check: 6 Months of Driving Electric (2024 Hyundai Ioniq 6)

[@KingTechHD]

Got mine 7 months ago and love this car. My first EV and Hyundai. My wife & kids love it too. I get compliments everywhere

[@MartyMotoring]

Nice! Sounds like we are in a similar situation! Great cars!

[@Bum_Hip]

Please Google EV battery recycling. There is an up and coming robust industry in that field. Also, after a few years, they hit their break even point, and become far more “green” than a comparable gas car. Please fact check me.

[@MartyMotoring]

I wasn’t aware! Thanks - something to look into and learn and makes EVs sustainable then

[@lazarusmagellan2367]

Fellow EV enjoyer!

[@l10industries]

I was watching some videos citing studies that, even running on 100% coal power, an EV overtakes a gas car in greenhouse emissions in 50,000 miles. However, with the average power mix in the US it is more like 30,000 mi. It seems to me the biggest problem battery recyclers are facing right now is a lack of batteries to recycle. It seems the longevity of electric vehicle batteries is a lot longer than even they suspected.

[@lazarusmagellan2367]

@@l10industries yup! Your cars battery will become obsolete before it becomes dis functional. The main reason for battery upgrades seems to be performance rather than necessity. But that is to my gain, as an ev conversion enthusiast :)

[@JohnZolla-bp7tl]

I just got a Hyundai Ioniq 5. I'm retired and drive about 100 miles/month. I level 1 charge and have no troubles using it as a city car. I would buy another in a heartbeat. 😎

[@dealbreakerc]

Except you most likely will not have to (unless you retired quite young or the battery degrades A LOT or there is a major mechanical/electrical fault). Heck, even if you lose 60% of the battery capacity you will be fine with your driving.

[@MartyMotoring]

Sounds like a perfect setup

[@kenastl]

Does it have the V2L capability? That would be a bonus to use for emergency power backups by connecting it to a generator inlet in my house. Many other EV's don't have that capability.

[@MartyMotoring]

Yes it has V2L capability too - totally forgot about that

[@stephenridgway2720]

There has to be more petrol car fires because statistically there are more petrol cars.

[@MichaelPanzer]

What I noticed, especially with US channels, is that the question about is ICE cars will go away never includes thoughts about oil. How long will it be available, how long should we continue wasting it by burning it and so on. Americans seem to have the feeling that burning oil could go in forever, and that's maybe true for our lives, but certainly not for our kids or their kids. Also don't worry about parking it inside. About the source of the power: you can produce electricity with wind or solar (solar even at home) but you can't produce gas easily or efficiently. So yes the electricity now could come mostly from coal, BUT over time there is the possibility and potential that it will come from a regenerative source. With ice cars that's not in their future

[@MartyMotoring]

Good points! Electricity is more plentiful than oil, I believe

[@MichaelPanzer]

@@MartyMotoring You can at least produce electricity from sources that are not limited. Basically the sun with the wind and water movement it's responsible for. Uranium and Oil have a natural limit because at some point you just have dug out every last bit of it and then it's gone... BTW: US Oil reserve will be empty in around 10 years with the current amount of consumption in the US.

[@diydrivenGA]

Congrats! Ideally we can all have an EV and an ICE car in our lives. As a long time DIYer on my ICE cars, it is refreshing to not take a break from most of it. As a homeowver, its pretty cool how intimate you get with your power usage, your panel, and looking at options like Solar w/ battery storage. Right now it costs me $15/wk to home charge at $5 session overnight. Not paying $60/wknfor premium or dealing with gas station shenanigans is a huge plus. Being able to power your home off your car is pretty sweet as well.

[@alanpeterson6768]

Nice review. I thought you did a good job of looking at pros and cons. I was disappointed in your emphasis on this not being a 'green' car. Compared to any ICE vehicle, it is fantastically better: even if your power is from coal-fired plants. The efficiency of an EV is just so much better than ICE. Some people always want to point their fingers at the mining process for EV resources, but don't do the same for ICE, plus there's the environmentally destructive process of extracting oil and converting it to gas. The other opinion I'd like to add is about traveling. I've had my Ioniq 6 for six months. I've taken three road trips with it totaling 9,500 miles. It's a great road trip car. Sorry about the criticisms as I do think you did a very good job on this.

[@MartyMotoring]

Good points! I know the lithium mining isn’t great for the planet, but neither is pollution or mining for oil. I’m not sure on the latest data but I agree an EV is more efficient if the battery is taken care of. And so far my road trips have gone well too!

[@sethjarvis2604]

We’re a two EV family. By charging at home and using a time-of-use rate plan with our utility, we drive for two cents per mile. Do the math and calculate how many MPG you’d need to get to drive your gas powered car for two cents per mile. Hint, it’s a three digit number. Also, re “green,” check out the Union of Concerned Scientists report “Cleaner From Cradle to Grave.” Yes they’re significantly greener than gas powered cars.

[@Youtubeuseritis]

Can you charge the ionic car at Tesla supercharger?

[@MartyMotoring]

Some of them with the “MagicDock” or an adapter but it’s a slower speed at Tesla stations since they are 400v architecture and not 800v like the Ioniq

[@COSolar6419]

It is unfortunate you choose to repeat the disproven petro-propaganda myth that electric vehicles are less "green" than internal combustion engine vehicles. Even if your local electricity is partly or even entirely generated by a coal plant, the significantly higher energy efficiency of an EV makes it a cleaner choice than an internal combustion engine vehicle. Fortunately our electric grid is getting much cleaner as coal plants are retired and increasingly replaced with renewable sources. You even have the option to generate your own electricity with solar. That is never an option with gasoline. Almost all of the components of an EV battery can be reused. Currently the main issue with battery recycling is there aren't enough EV batteries to recycle. Most EV batteries are still being used in EVs.

[@MartinPedersenTM]

Plus the minerals put into the car can be reused, and it's not like it's environmentally friendly drilling up or fracking for oil....

[@MartyMotoring]

From the studies I’ve seen, the lithium mined was more environmentally impactful than mining for oil, but that could be petroleum funded and biased. But it makes sense that an EV is the same or less environmentally impactful as a making a gasoline car.

[@COSolar6419]

@@MartyMotoring It is important to look at the entire life cycle of the product. Manufacturing an EV can have more environmental impacts than an ICE vehicle but as soon as they become operational the EV quickly surpasses ICE. How quickly depends on each individual vehicle model efficiency, its type of battery and the source of electricity used by EVs. There are online calculators capable of estimating the differences by EV model and location.

[@888twebb]

I thought his comments were reasonably fair, production of anything has an impact, EVs are plenty more impactful than riding a bicycle or taking public transport. My take was that he said the battery recycling doesn’t really exist yet which as far as I know is true and exactly as stated in the video there aren’t many end of life batteries yet either to drive the industry. Plenty of truth that EVs are far less impactful than petrol/diesel cars but not true to say that they have zero environmental impact.

[@COSolar6419]

@ True. Breathing has an environmental impact. No useful alternative to that but there are alternatives to burning stuff to move around. Bicycles and public transportation are each alternatives but not an alternative for everyone.

[@Youtubeuseritis]

If you don't have ability to charge at home, does it make sense to buy this car?

[@MartyMotoring]

Hmm probably not unless you have a public charger nearby. Some people charge with a home outlet and then fast charge at public stations

[@brokeboy87]

I wonder why you went with this over the Ioniq 5?

[@MartyMotoring]

I really liked the 5, but the lease deal was only on the 6 at the time. So I went with that, and don’t mind a sedan. But the 5 would be a lot more practical. I got to drive the 5N and loved it

[@nighthawk2174]

Our roads deal with semi's all the time so the 'their so heavy' argument never made sense normal passenger ev's aren't that heavy. The weight concern is far more applicable to the electric semi-trucks. To get the range they need they do get rather quite heavy iirc the tesla semi is close to 80K lbs while a typical semi is in the low 20K range. Which is a problem as regulations limit a semi to 80K lbs max with its load before you have to start getting into special permitting and limited routes due to bridges.

[@MartyMotoring]

This is true lol

[@JohnsmithQqqq]

The video is generally accurate with the technical information given except for one point that no one really ever gets right and is a 😊real important fact to get right….especially with 6 months of hands on experience. No electric vehicle ever charges as fast as claimed. These 20-80 percent figures are based on manufacturers claims ‘PROVIDED’ that the charger and charging curve are at 100% capacity. I own a 2023 ioniq 5 and have never seen any power curve exceed 120-140 kWh.

[@MartyMotoring]

Hmm, have you had the ICCU and charging logic updated? I’ve seen close to 200 kwh which is why it only take 20 minutes to go from 20ish to 90ish %, but it definitely fluctuates charge level as its charging

[@ericbrayden8841]

I also have an i5, 2022, and I have charged 20-80 in 20 minutes many times.

[@junehanzawa5165]

​@@MartyMotoring I highly doubt he has an Ioniq 5. They do close to 240kW. Just a troll making things up.

[@BboyMobster]

I truly don’t get all the hate with electric cars. I’m going to continue to research and watch countless videos. Hopefully by the time I’m ready to buy range anxiety will be gone because more range will be available and charging stations. I see Tesla charging every damn where and I live in a super low populated area. I think electric cars are best for home owners.

[@stevenewman7930]

I pay about $0.08/kWh Costs about $40/month to keep charged for me

[@MartyMotoring]

Nice! That’s how much mine is before distribution costs which I found out is around .05 per kWh which makes me actual cost .13.

[@Call-me-James]

For most of my life I drove Porsches, but now I drive an EV. I feel like the EV driving experience is similar to a Porsche - smooth, powerful, and precise. I don't see any reason to ever buy an ICE car.

[@MartyMotoring]

Glad to see others feel the same way I do! We don’t all need loud cars lol

[@matthewmcdonald9107]

$10/day is still $70/week. I dont think a hybrid is costing that much, depending on distance on both of course.

[@MartyMotoring]

I only charge it once a week, sometimes 2. So that’s $40-80 a month compared to $250-400 in gas

[@adofoi30]

Sure it would cost that if he drove 280 miles per day. It costs $10 to fill it up. That’s less than 2.7 gallons of gas. That’s 132 miles of travel (still awesome btw) vs 280 miles in the ev. In NYC however it would cost almost $20 for that same 77kwh and the Prius could do almost 264miles at that price. Though since so many people in my neighborhood in Brooklyn have solar the EV would be FREE or almost free to “fill up”

[@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA]

Electric car….

[@MartyMotoring]

yup pretty fun, nothing wrong with a little battery power

[@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA]

@@MartyMotoring I guess so…..

[@adofoi30]

Dude A/Cs use more power in a car it’s not free… Heat is free

[@MartyMotoring]

Yes, it uses a little power and gas but those accessory belts are already spinning

[@xn7gm]

You made it sound like ICE cars don't use power to cool their engines and run AC. How is this a “concern” of EVs?

[@MartyMotoring]

Well EVs have to use their own battery power to run a heating element or AC, the Ioniq has a heat pump that helps it be more efficient but it still uses power. Whereas an ICE already has a spinning crank and belts that power the AC, steering and other accessories

[@SunGrowsJ]

A car is a car , devalue in price anyways

[@MartyMotoring]

Yup they all drop in value. I’m glad I leased for a good price

[@Yazolight]

12:53 Nucular? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@MartyMotoring]

😂😂😂 I’ve always said it like that

[@Yazolight]

@@MartyMotoring that’s how W. Bush said it too! Please change your ways 😂

[@AmericanBusinessman422]

This first 5 minutes segment of the video be pretty biased. From calling the ICE obsolete to saying that electricity cost will only maybe go up. To the fact where you miss the average of 5% battery degradation a year and do not specify that you're supposed to keep the battery between 20 and 80% to very poor range. This does not seem like the right way to go especially when everybody that's sees you in an electric car thinks you're gay..

[@MartyMotoring]

I said the ICE is NOT obsolete, I do not think electric cars will replace cars with engines. Electricity cost has been pretty stable for me the last 4 years. It will vary depending where you live. Why would someone assume sexual orientation based off what powers a vehicle? Seems like pretty small-minded thinking.

[@MichaelPanzer]

5% battery degradation a year is a myth and just plain wrong.

[@Sparky783]

@@MichaelPanzer you're right, it's not linear, there's quite a bit in the first year but then it tapers off.

[@COSolar6419]

You can charge to 100% as needed. You just want to avoid leaving the battery at a very high state of charge most of the time. This lessens long term degradation which you probably won't see for ten years or more. If I am taking a longer trip I'll charge to 100% the night before (while I sleep). Otherwise an 80% (or even much lower state of charge) is more than enough for my average daily driving.

[@MichaelPanzer]

@@COSolar6419 We cars just being leased and no penalty set on battery usage patterns, most people I know will just not care about how they treat their battery because it's not their car and it doesn't matter for them.

[@DecalGuy77]

Thats one ugly car, especially the rear lol

[@MartyMotoring]

It’s like a knockoff Porsche Taycan, but it’s grown on me 😂

[@TheAnoniemo]

I think it looks a lot more impressive in real life, compared to a flat image.

[@matthewliuliu666]

That was exactly what I thought when I first saw this car, but when my leased car ended, this car had a great lease deal, and I like the way it drives, so I took it, the more I drive it, the more I like it, after 8 months, i love the style now, this is a great car over all

[@MartyMotoring]

@@matthewliuliu666 Right there with ya!