Marvel Doesn't Care About Making "Movies" Anymore

[@brandonmuse5532]

I don't like this casting at all

[@jarrodedson5441]

Same, it's off

[@mohabalserafe3795]

Nobody does

[@xnortheast1106]

People do​@@mohabalserafe3795

[@sc00bii75]

I’m not too opposed tbh

[@aadenzstudios5186]

It has potential if they do it right

[@jodymiller1]

-They keep recycling the same actors/ actresses -The writing is bad - I know their base off of a comic books but some scenes aren’t supposed to be comical

[@epiccoolgmaer]

Agreed if it was 1 year ago, but they only did it for Robert Downey Jr. so you can’t really say they keep recycling actors

[@TipoIrritable]

Recycling the same actors / actresses? Thought it was only RDJ.

[@epiccoolgmaer]

@@TipoIrritable it is

[@HumanB312]

What are you talking about?

[@Madara8989]

@@epiccoolgmaer Only if you're ignoring Marvel bringing back the actors from the previous non-MCU movies or ignoring when side characters are cast in multiple roles. - Alfre Woodard played a character in Luke Cage, then showed up as a different character in Civil War (the woman who confronts Tony about the Avengers killing her kid) - Clancy Brown was Colonel Ray Schoonover in both Daredevil & The Punisher, but then was cast as Surtur for Thor 3 - The dude who originally played Thanos for the Avengers post-credit scene pops up again as one of Crossbone's henchmen in Civil War - Enver Gjokaj played one of the cops that Captain America issues orders to in The Avengers, then is recast as Sousa in Agent Carter & Agents of SHIELD - Gemma Chan is a Kree henchmen in Captain Marvel and also Sersi from The Eternals - Hawkeye's daughter in Age of Ultron was played by the same twin actresses that portrayed a Xandarian child in Guardians of the Galaxy - Judie Greer is both Scott Lang's ex-wife and the pig monster in GotG 3 - Laura Haddock plays both an adoring fan in Captain America 1 and Peter Quill's mom in GotG. - Linda Cardalini plays Hawkeye's wife and Lylla the otter from GotG 3 - Matt Gerald plays an unnamed inmate in All Hail the King (a canon short film that was included on the home release for Thor 2) and was cast later on as Melvin Potter (the dude who makes Kingpin's bullet proof suits and Daredevil's costumes) - Michelle Yeoh is both a leader of the Ravagers in GotG2 and Ying Nan in Shang Chi - Nathan Fillion is in GotG 1 and GotG 3 as two different people/species - Patrick Brennan plays a villain in Agents of SHIELD and a bartender in Captain Marvel - Patton Owsalt was a series of indentical twins in Agents of SHIELD and is Pip The Troll in The Enternals' post credit scene - Peter Mensah is in both The Incredible Hulk as a General Greller and then was later Qovas in Agents of Shield - Tony Curran played an Asgardian in Thor 2 and the head of the Irish mob in The Punisher. - Tsai Chin is both Melinda May's mother in Agents of SHIELD and Katy's grandmother in Shang-Chi. And that's not even all of the actors/actresses who have been cast as multiple roles

[@comicfan1324]

4:37 Not to be that guy, but ironically the upcoming fantastic four will be the fourth attempt at making a live action fantastic four movie

[@brewmaster2912]

@@comicfan1324 Destiny arrives all the same

[@sanshinobi3664]

Poetic, not ironic.

[@KingThrillgore]

Wouldn't it be funny if they fuck this one up as well

[@GRAFRU68]

Fourth? I thought the first one with Chris Evans.. And the the reboot no one saw with Michale B Jordan. And then the F U with John Krasinski being dumb enough to get shredded.

[@g.alvarez3140]

​@GRAFRU68 The very first attempt was in the 90's. Produced by Roger Corman, sadly it was unreleased. Some say it was mostly a way for the studio to keep the rights of them for longer

[@jcv8505]

Marvel looks at making movies the way McDonald's views cheese burgers.

[@YudazOwn]

Slap it together and dish it out!... They are hooked now... (Or at least they think we are)

[@aglowtopp]

Omg fucking TRUE

[@GRAFRU68]

McCy's cheeseburgers 🍔 taste like plastic and pickles... doesn't even taste like beef.

[@christianporter3638]

Bro....Doom wears a mask. You paid a dude in a mask $40 mil per film to hear his voice (ala Pascal in Mando). This literally couldnt be dumber

[@lordbertox4056]

thats what many are worried about. No way they are paying him that much without showing his face every 10 minutes, while doom is supposed to keep his ask on... well always

[@Stumme-40203]

@@lordbertox4056Yes they would. The whole point of RDJ’s casting is people will go for the name alone. RDJ is the Daddy of the MCU, that combined with the names Anthony and Joe Russo will make everyone flock to the film.

[@formerjzm]

@@Stumme-40203 lol the daddy of the mcu and people will be flocking to hear his voice?.....piss off

[@Stumme-40203]

@@formerjzm Cry to someone else. You can’t physically deny how obsessed the MCU fanbase is over RDJ.

[@formerjzm]

@@Stumme-40203 yeah as ironman....who just wants to hear his voice for 40 mill..again...piss off

[@JermaineFrazier-f7h]

After all the failure they switching back to Old Reliable😂

[@Xerxesem]

"You could not live with your own failure. What did that bring you? Back to me"

[@TBS.tudios]

You could make over 7 Godzilla minus ones with the amount of money that’s used to bring back Robert Downey jr

[@unoriginal_name7091]

Godzilla Minus One was so much better than it had any right to be

[@bandawin18]

I would watch all 7 Minus Ones back to back without breaks in between before I even thought about watching another modern MCU movie

[@prettyaverage97]

The thing about Infinity War and Endgame is that people were invested in the characters and the decade-old storytelling they had been following. That was what made the "wow moments" hit hard. And it's something they can't replicate with Doomsday or Secret Wars because you don't practically know any of the characters that will star there, so they rely on cameos and nostalgia bait. I mean, you're gonna tell me Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man and Hugh Jackman's Wolverine will be the main focuses of Secret Wars instead of Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel or Shang-Chi? Come on

[@TypicalPlayer21]

Its litterally a fake rumor , Tobey and hugh will be cameo but not the lead , mfers are believinh fake rumors 🤦 and the entire point of secret wars is being a huge cameo ne stalgia fest thats the point its a celebration of everything marvel

[@darrylbrumfield7659]

​@TypicalPlayer21 exactly. And dude is bitchng about it 😂

[@albertokorogu1258]

@@TypicalPlayer21 It still doesn't help that there is no connection to the lineup and hell there isn't even really a lineup of the next avengers movie 💀💀 literally 99% of what I hear from casuals and fans is all about the cameos not the ACTUAL main characters that will be in it...

[@pyerack]

I think they can still clutch this, so long as they actually portray Dr Doom as his own character and not just "Tony Stark but even more egotistical" Really hoping they don't give him any of the goofy snarky stuff and keep him serious and calculating like how Doom is known to behave.

[@LuffyBlack]

Nah he's going to quip and make self deprecating jokes about being called Doom and he won't wear a mask

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

​@@LuffyBlackyou know what's going to be the worst? That Dr. Doom will be changed in the comics to behave just like Robert Downey Jr. does to make people "get used to the character" 💀

[@bandawin18]

​@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349 and it's not gonna be a slow process, the second the movie drops every writer and artist is gonna force that shit in every new comic and probably have some cheap unfunny Deadpool 4th wall bullshit about dr doom looking like rdj

[@ngud_gaming267]

This pissed me off because they announced it as "the only person who can play doom" and the dude steps forward looking like that kid from amazing Spiderman 2 at the end with an oversized mask looking goofy af then removes his mask and it's the one dude who's charisma is a pure contrast of the cold, intentional, no nonsense doom. RDJ is great but personally I think it's like casting a criminal to play a priest. It as well indirectly insults all the fans

[@SOLIDSNAKE.]

Lmao facts! I thought he was the goofiest looking, I just can't see it

[@ngud_gaming267]

@@SOLIDSNAKE. They'd need to give him a huge suit

[@bandawin18]

"but Heath Ledger in the dark knight" "but Bryan Cranston in breaking bad" the exception is not the rule. I hate that this is the only rebuttal anyone ever has for this type of thing

[@Cokemalola]

Go cry about it

[@ngud_gaming267]

@@bandawin18 exactly. Context matter as well. Heath and Brian were not already part of the universe so they had a blank slate. RDJ is known as Ironman, his death was the key point of the endgame saga and he was so integral to the mcu you can't just ignore that fact. Plus we know RDJ isn't a fan of changing his body to fit roles so now we're going to get a short, old frail looking doom who's witty with sharp one liners

[@itsamyles5227]

Spending 80 million on a fake out would be the funniest shit every 💀💀

[@bandawin18]

They're already blowing money on dogshit trash with pretty much everything they've put into production, why not actually do it on purpose?

[@benmcreynolds8581]

Personally I get totally thrown off when a movie just hires A List celebrities regardless if they fit or not. A movie is much more immersive if the creators find legitimate people who fit the roles based on their character, personality or traits. Hollywood NEEDS to recognize how important certain aspects of their industry are and reconnect with those aspects. Such as dedicated voice acting, 2D Animation Studios, hiring a range of actors based off who can embody the personality and traits of their character the best. I'd also like to see matte painted backgrounds & VFX's artists improve across Hollywood. All of these roles should be seen as Crucial aspects of the movies they are making. Not treated like this disposable temp agency worker. They should give out awards for these roles. These people need to be celebrated and respected more. A lot more

[@GodwinBaxter]

MCU fanboys when iron doom defeats Spider-Man and then proceeds to say “I hate you 3000”: 😮😮😮😮

[@Silas_Kow]

Even with the main villain being Dr. Doom he will be more connected to Thor and Peter than to Fantastic 4...

[@meghalayacarshub0911]

They seems desperate and used the most iconic villian to put rdj in for their desperation move😮‍💨

[@anubusx]

Doctor Doomlittle.

[@Cobracatcommander]

yup. switching to gunn's DCU

[@bandawin18]

​@@Cobracatcommander there was no need to "switch" before, we could've just enjoyed both. But yeah I can't see a single reason to be invested in the MCU anymore, and not watching it is gonna be much easier with a superior substitute finally giving them some competition

[@Cobracatcommander]

this is why gunn's DCU has a better chance of giving us something new and different. mcu is just rehashing actors to play other characters.

[@BestOneEver247]

Then again anything can happen, and all we can do for now is just hope

[@wholsom1003]

Jason Momoa is coming back in Gunn’s DCU as another character though

[@albertokorogu1258]

@@wholsom1003 As a potentially CGI/Prosthetic Lobo there's little connection. Doctor Doom in these movies is probably going to be maskless since they're adapting Secret Wars.

[@Brandon-k9u]

Ok genius wannabe.

[@cart00nface40]

Worst thing that could happen, this "dr Doom" Will be only in the name. No connection to fantastic four, no rivalry with Reed Richards, no Victor Von doom. It'll be just evil iron man from another universe where like, avengers died or where stark was always evil. But hey, It's Rdj and LOOOOOK! he's wearing an iron man armour... But GREEEEEN!! But if he does plays a Dr doom, but uh... Just with iron man's face, then we'll see.

[@E_X_H_U_M_E_D_06]

Deadpool and Wolverine was basically a cash grab as well. I watched it twice and realized the plot is shit. It heavily DEPENDS on cameo's and nothing more. And let's be honest, Ryan Reynolds has no acting range, he basically plays the same douche character in ALL his films.

[@saito4432]

Ryan Rentals

[@tylerhowie1304]

His shtick wore off permanently for me after those inescapable, insufferable Mint Mobile ads

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

So basically another Spiderman No Way Home where the cameos were the saving grace of the whole thing?

[@MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife]

deadpool and wolverine is rated on imdb as 8.0/10. when it first came out in theatres, it was rated 8.3/10. just for comparison the 1979 film alien is rated 8.5/10. in 2002 alien was added to the U.S nation film registry. do you think deadpool and wolverine deserves to be 0.5 points less than alien? (rhetorical question). another person in the replies is talking about spiderman no way home so i'll say a bit about it too. that has 8.2/10 on imdb. when that film first released i remember it having scores above 9/10. i did like peter's arc in that film, but the plot was weak in some areas. the villains are taken from their universes right before they died. the heroes cure them and send them back to their universes. but wouldn't the villains return to the point when they were just about to die? would curing them mean anything when a couple seconds later they die? no way home made $1.9 billion at the box office. i don't think it would have made anywhere near that amount if maguire and garfield weren't there. when they showed up my whole theatre was screaming, including me, even though i never watched the sony spiderman movies. marvel knows the power of nostalgia. responding to the part where the original comment said they watched deadpool and wolverine twice, i wouldn't watch the movie again. the movie was carried by jokes and nostalgia. watching the movie a second time, i would already know the jokes. the fox character cameos wouldn't surprise me. i wouldn't be distracted by the jokes and the cameos and that would force me to focus on the plot more. i do agree that the plot was lacklustre. the villain was a tiny bit less bland and forgettable than the villain from the marvels. if i watched the movie a second time, my memories surrounding it wouldn't be as positive as they are now. i really did enjoy myself in the movie theatre. i was laughing and having a fun time with my dad. now i've gotten over the hype phase after watching the movie, i am more critical towards it. i hope that marvel (and also disney) stops weaponizing and capitalizing on nostalgia and gives us a movie that stands on its own merits without relying on cameos to make a lot of cash at the box office.

[@vonnstevens2502]

⁠@@tylerhowie1304u mean the part where it actually had good consistent marketing unlike other pieces of media?

[@emberdragon4248]

Superhero upon seeing Doctor Doom: "...Tony?"

[@Boss-cj6zn]

“Who the hell is Tony?”

[@kiratwo4u]

and we all clapped and cried

[@ViridianWoF]

@@Boss-cj6znRAHH

[@ericrivas4106]

They could’ve cast Cillian Murphy as Doom but noooo they had to dangle Disney dollars at RDJ

[@dootdoot802]

Or they could've cast an Eastern European actor for Doom

[@feliciasteward777]

Exactly he was great as the scarecrow in Batman begins I don't know why they did not cast him as Dr Doom he would have been a way better choice

[@brewmaster2912]

Eh it’s better to cast an actual Romani actor

[@dootdoot802]

@brewmaster2912 very true. I want thr accurate Dr. Doom 😭 If the MCU Doom is an American scientist or CEO again I'm gonna fucking lose it

[@vileink4733]

Why is Cillian better? Doom is an eastern European get a damn guy from there

[@platypusnoise]

I'm betting my money on Tony Stark Doom. They might call him Victor, but it'll be in name only We're not seeing Victor von Doom

[@improbablyyourdad8458]

I've always hated No Way Home because I could feel when they were trying to manipulate my nostalgia.

[@JR1cktheSk3tchy]

Marvel vs Capcom reference spotted!!! (Particularly Dr. Doom's artwork)

[@SaggyWaggy-is8it]

FOOTDIVE!!

[@adam711s]

Fuck the multiverse

[@iziah2161]

But you can stay invincible and spiderverse

[@Szpagin]

​@@iziah2161 and Everything Everywhere All At Once.

[@cedricletho2971]

​@@Szpagin ESPECIALLY Everything Everywhere all at Once

[@SVU631]

​@@cedricletho2971 nwh and dw where both good

[@albertokorogu1258]

@@Szpagin tripping

[@TBS.tudios]

Hey, who’s excited for Superman Legacy ? 👀

[@ValkorionEditsAm]

Me. I can't wait for this movie.

[@WasiuGiwa-ul4hs]

Me🎉😊

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

Me

[@stellviahohenheim]

Oh believe me they care, they care about the billions of dollar that they're going to make because fans have no choice but to give them money because RDJ is back

[@JM57-99]

It's not cinema nor theme parks, it's wrestling. It's about the different characters interacting with each other and showing their abilities.

[@gauravgummaraju]

The only way this works is if Marvel Studios quits making movies after Avengers: Secret Wars

[@boredbitch666]

that's not gonna happen because "we've got to have money" - Kevin Feige probably

[@polybius8571]

0:07 “Everyone, look at his disgusting eye! HA HA HA!”

[@mattnsg13]

maybe after the backlash they actually pull the fakeout move and pretend like they never intended for RDJ to be dr doom in the first place, we can only hope

[@omarbaba9892]

lol the “audience clapping” thing is so funny given it’s only an American thing to do that. In any marvel movie I’ve seen in cinema the loudest audience sound I’ve heard was laughing when watching deadpool and wolverine and laughing at how bad modok looked. Never heard cheering at all lol

[@breadmaster9006]

I don’t think Marvel was ready to handle a multiverse level story. They should’ve went back to grounded stories and built back up to a universe shattering, celestial war. It would’ve given them time to set up pay offs and build up characters. Instead they’re just throwing fan favorite characters in with no build up and either kill them off or we never see them again because they’re “an alternate.” Might as well go full fan service, they already dug themselves into this abyss. I will be surprised if they ever make a good streamline story across multiple movies EVER again.

[@sabersroommate8293]

He is obviously the back up plan.

[@KnarfStein]

Blame the MCU fanchildren. No demand, no supply.

[@Xerxesem]

"You could not live with your own failure. What did that bring you? Back to me"

[@censheard7019]

13:25 hyping my favorite horror film in recent history and then suggesting to people who enjoyed long legs was the exact kind of suggestion I needed to actually want to watch long legs. Thank you

[@lorenzotalk]

Hope you enjoy it. I think Empty Man has a stronger story but both are similarly strong in their visuals and cinematography

[@ericgieskieng4262]

This casting has me turning my back on the MCU.

[@pengo2418]

The "clapping and cheering in the theatre" is also mostly an american thing, so the "please clap™" moments stand out even more everywhere else. Where I live most people just silently react, even for Marvel movies. The most I've seen was a short ovation after Endgame (or Infinty war, I don't remember) but nowhere near all those screams and emotional breakdowns for the entire movie you seem to get in the US.

[@bulletxwound3559]

Yeah Spider-Man and endgame are entertaining but they're not good movies. I feel like too many character arcs were ruined. I feel like everyone in no way home is way too stupid just so the plot can happen.

[@GamerAntman]

How is everyone dumb in Spider-Man? Seems like everything was logical.

[@marveloussoftware4914]

I liked endgame although i was into the whole infinity stone story that spanned many movies. Maybe the movie only works with the big picture in mind. I dont know. Its hard for me to treat it as a single movie as i was following the story. Knowing it was the finale i went to the theater to watch it and it was worth it.

[@bulletxwound3559]

@@GamerAntman bruh the entire plot hinders on Dr. Strange being a complete dumbass and everything only happens because Peter was a dumbass. The whole reason aunt may died was because their plan was incredibly stupid.

[@bulletxwound3559]

@@marveloussoftware4914 I just didn't like how Thor and caps arcs ended. Cap would never abandon the present and forsake the future just to relieve the past. Thor was kinda ruined in Ragnarok, redeemed in infinity war and after infinity war, his character has been in a downward spiral.

[@bulletxwound3559]

@@marveloussoftware4914 also I would say end game is fun the first few times you watch it but as time goes on, for me it just didn't age well. I completely forgot to mention how they did my boy Hulk.

[@popculturenews4091]

So This Doom going have alot more personal connection to Avengers rather than Fantastic four like wtf ?

[@RakoonCD]

Scorsese was cooking

[@mysticwraith6667]

For some reason their a lot of people going back to the old Fantastic 4 movies and thinking THAT Doom was perfect so i have absolutely no hope for the MCU one, even if it's trash people will love it because it's RDJ

[@lulu_TheWitchBoy]

I just want cosmic saga… like bunch of crazy good stories you can do there.

[@personperson573]

They should have paused for a couple years released The Fantastic Four the way it is as a multiverse thing and than get into the cosmic saga. Stop centering the universe around the Avengers if they're not important anymore. 😂😂 Would've been smart to focus on a different team.

[@RodoFoolboyTV]

Member robert downey jr? I member 😂

[@rubub8455]

I actually had to wonder if I was tripping out or something when I saw a lot of people praising or being fine with the Doom casting. Like, I really don't care if it's a different reality doom or RDJ acts his ass off, this choice is weird and comes off as really cheap. I'm hoping it's either some weird red-herring just for Marvel to be relevant right now or the movies SOMEHOW make it interesting.

[@WasiuGiwa-ul4hs]

Hopefully this turns out good this is what the general audience will associate with Dr doom like how movies have changed multiple characters to fit their movie version if you disagree see guardians of the galaxy pre 2014 vs now almost every superhero has been tweaked to fit their movie version because that is their most popular version

[@Youranazncvck]

Cillian Murphy should’ve played Dr. Doom.

[@JeffHardyTheEnigmaticOne]

The new Doom is gonna be Cillian Murphy with Tony’s mind. RDJ and Murphy playing together in Oppenheimer was like a warm up showcase to see if they mesh well together and it was a huge success (i never watched it seemed too boring tbh) but thats just my opinion, if im wrong i’ll eat a whole box of Little Debbie honey buns

[@TheDanielk4]

Bruh 💀💀

[@Fireandknives]

The 6 pack? BET.

[@somethingeasy3005]

Smh just get it right. Marvel please.

[@dogsandyoga1743]

Whatever. They gonna get my $47.50 or whatever it cost to see a movie now. Even if it's a gimmick or a last act of desperation, I'm willing to give it 1 more go around...

[@gavinmorin]

RDJ is a great actor. He was clearly great as Stark but this just feels like moving backwards. Not only casting him as Doom but bringing in the Russos again. I’m sure they’re only back because all of their movies outside of the MCU have been pretty damn bad. I just don’t like anything about this tbh. I’m just over multiverse stories. Let the spiderverse movies tell those stories.

[@venicec3310]

Tiredd of superheroes shits been played out for 10 years already lets get back to real movies

[@joseluis5055]

They think cheap attention graabing tricks like this are gonna improve their movies. Tgey truly still don't get it

[@tonybamalaboni3868]

Surprised by your subs, great vocal delivery and articulation!

[@norrbottenslanmanga3031]

I hope Beyonder gets introduced soon to the MCU... I really don't want Dr Doom to be the main baddie in both films. Beyonder is important to Secret Wars. Even Dr Doom is important to Secret Wars.

[@vonnstevens2502]

The marvel fandom is just too toxic to think that iron man is actually coming back🤣

[@MFSHARTY]

I don’t mind. He’s playing Victor Von Doom, not Tony Stark. I believe he will nail this, and we will eat this shit up

[@IamVLD777]

Is he really tho? Why RDJ? Something’s still very fishy

[@mohabalserafe3795]

​@Weezytecktonik hell bring the doctor doom from OG fantastic four movie he did an amazing job as Doom

[@anubusx]

That Doom was more like Tony Stark.

[@mohabalserafe3795]

@@anubusx who ?

[@anubusx]

@@mohabalserafe3795 The Fantastic Four 2005 Doctor Doom.

[@Veela666]

Technically Fantastic Four First Steps is the fourth interpretation. Fantastic Four (1994) Fantastic Four (2005) + Sequal Fan4stic Fantastic Four: First Steps

[@mr.iiconic]

Fanastic

[@bryguytyguy]

I think there’s a way you can have RDJ play a completely different character in Victor Von Doom but also be thematically and narratively linked with Tony. There are a lot of parallels between Iron Man and Dr. Doom as characters.

[@blengblong01712]

here before million subscribers

[@maxtubb]

I honestly missed it when RDJ used to do more movies that wasn’t Marvel like Zodiac, Tropic Thunder, Chaplin and Natural Born Killers.

[@lightningspeedextreme2913]

Yea people still dont get it...disney doesnt care if the casting is bad, they care that people will talk about it

[@improbablyyourdad8458]

14:19 mf this is what people mean when they say "adapt the source material" and they haven't been doing it well. Marvel's Spiderman isn't Spiderman. He's just a kid with spider powers and a suit. The actual human elements of Peter Parker are missing.

[@williamholtzclaw3029]

Im being very optimistic and hoping that RDJ is just playing DOOM as DOOM, he's said he didnt like his MCU work because he didnt get to do much real acting and i could totally see him do that as DOOM, put him in a mask, have him put on a real performance, and dont bring up that it's iron man under the make up and mask

[@David-ox7ps]

To the average fan RDJ is Tony Stark so a variant is the most logical way to go, given we’ve been introduced to the multiverse concept. Anything else may be too convoluted and given the initial reaction could be rejected by fans, would have worked much better as a surprise reveal.

[@Aldgri]

I’ve grown to expect nothing good from Marvel but if something of X-Men 97’s calibre is made I’ll watch it

[@RudyG.Numpad]

4:37 technically, there were 3 different adaptations of Fantastic 4 (as long as you count the unreleased 1994 Fantastic Four)

[@checkdown3774]

Robert will do a great job, but its confusing. Hes way too iconic as iron man.

[@personperson573]

Not confusing it's a stupid decision is what you mean 😂😂

[@checkdown3774]

@@personperson573 I was trying to be polite.

[@personperson573]

@@checkdown3774 yeah to who a company that is draining it's own money?? 💀💀

[@tijansidibeh2691]

Do people clap for movies in America of something

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

Yes

[@OtaldeMaciel]

They never cared

[@worldscoolestperson7672]

Do I hear the Forgotten Capital theme in the background?

[@thecrispymaster]

2:10 - I'm now imagining them doing a story like that one episode of Doctor Who where The Master turns everyone on earth into copies of himself. I barely follow Marvel films but I'd definitely watch that 🤣

[@rollingon5566]

I mostly agree with the video but the idea that the spirits of these characters are pretty accurate is offensive to me Captain America is basically 1-to-1 in my opinion, even down to his bullheadishness Iron man wasn't a wise cracking playboy, but it was his persona as he had a SECRET IDENTITY FOR MOST OF THE CHARACTERS LIFE, that he used to hide from his alcoholism. It was the MCU synergy that crept this stuff in Thor isn't a funny goofy haha man, he's a serious warrior with the weight of the world on his shoulders Hulk isn't a funny goofy haha baby man, he's a body horror character representing the long lasting effects of being beaten by your father and how to live with the mental illness it caused Clint isn't the chilled out dad of the avengers or the vengeful filled murder, he's a human screw up who does the wrong thing just as much as he does the right thing The MCU doesn't understand the characters it's adapting half the time, and even when it does, like with GOTG, their best writers have left for greener pastures

[@Lunk42]

Should have been Victor Von Doom. This is just gonna be an alternate version of Tony and he's just gonna get redeemed at the end.

[@epiccoolgmaer]

People are forgetting he is playing victor Von doom not Tony Stark and remember the MCU saved him because he was doing bad things before he became an actor and people were saying the casting for Tony Stark with RDJ was bad

[@Terminator-ht3sx]

no he is playing an alternate universe tony stark who becomes evil and dr doom. not victor von doom. you just actively spreading misinformation dumb mf

[@brewmaster2912]

I don’t particularly mind having RDJ as Doom since it’s fitting to have him play a villain that wants to destroy the MCU that he started as Iron Man.

[@hasthehighground8560]

But why waste Doom on that? Doom is such an important and different character that relegating him to be “Iron Man but evil” is a disservice to the character.

[@brewmaster2912]

@@hasthehighground8560 it’s just RDJ as Doom, that doesn’t mean he’s gonna basically be an evil Iron Man

[@Stumme-40203]

I don’t see how this Doom would have to be connected to Tony. Isn’t Doom often disfigured in the comics? The only way we would recognize him would be his voice, which RDJ can definitely pull off a Dr. Doom performance that sounds nothing like Tony. After all, we’re talking about Wayne Gale himself.

[@mehiloll]

The censor sound effect keeps throwing me off lmao

[@CrisisMoon7]

1:00 when was this?

[@Stumme-40203]

Here 1:00

[@Jeeshansameer2165]

The endgame there have been 3 great Marvel film's Spider-Man no way home, guardians Of The galaxy volume 3 Deadpool & Wolverine. It's not dead yet by any measure but RDJ as Dr. Dom is going to bring the MCU back to the big leagues.

[@longthornhenderson331]

There is a way to make rdj the “true” doom and have the real doom not be tony. Do what demon in an armor did. Maybe this doom switched minds with tony and hes in his body. And somehow theyre able to kill tony doom. Only for his consciousness to return to his actual body

[@petermj1098]

Doom’s connection and relation with Reed Richards is WAY MORE important than his connection and relation to Tony Stark. It is sad Dr Doom is gonna be reduced to an “evil Iron Man” now.

[@longthornhenderson331]

@@petermj1098 hopefully not

[@superfarful]

I clicked for the mvc2 doom character art

[@saltinefromindiana]

At least Fortnite gave Doom Foot Dive. I doubt the MCU will givr him that, hell let alone keep him from Latveria

[@ChadAV69]

I can’t wait to see dr doom cracking jokes

[@JCardo2502]

So you´re saying Marvel should go full Fast & Furious?

[@ScienceBabble]

You van blame Josh Whedon for the "Please Clap" moments

[@tommyhatcher3399]

On the bright side, at least now they won't throw the Avengers into Fantastic Four 2.

[@knicksfule]

I can't with the music bed

[@rjjackson2044]

3:11 that's just a lie bro. Star Wars alone would cost 60 million. I already completely agreed with everything you said in this video, you didn't need to lie man

[@ryangoslingdrive]

Both taxi driver and oldboy had a budget of 2-4 million each ion know about that weird Chinese one but I bet star wars could have a budget of 70 million and still be under 80 (inflation not factored)

[@ryangoslingdrive]

And I just google a new hope had a budget of 11 million ion know where them 60 come from

[@tomimpala]

They still care, there are still arcs

[@farhanislamrhythm1677]

The video title drop was fuckin cool

[@Goodroosters]

Here's what I think: the RDJ Doom movie is going to make TONS of money. Not exactly Endgame/Infinity War money but quite a lot. However, it won't be seen until the next few movies if it worked or not. The idea i just too interesting for most moviegoers to skip, but they're more than likely going to fumble this role and only then will it become apparent later that its the end of the MCU.

[@Theknightman-wg1dz]

I’m fine with the casting, especially if they hide his face or have a good way to explain it. Rdj is a good actor and I think he can do it right. My biggest issue is that he isn’t Romani, I don’t like when they change race or gender of characters for almost no reason

[@shajita]

Really good observation, and I agree. Marvel movies feels less and less like movies, and more like feature length Smash Bros. trailers. I'm gonna have to push back on 3:55 however. Not pointing fingers, Marvel treating their properties terribly is nothing new, but The Fantastic Four, specifically Reed, is not something Doom outgrew. His rivalry with Mr. Fantastic is as core to his character, as being a mutant is to Magneto. Like yeah, you could make Magneto just an angry guy that causes natural diasters and have Captain America punch him, but we'd leave so much on the table. I'm not super interested in a literal 1:1 translation of the comics, but if you start off with Doom as a Marvel Universe villain, or an Iron Man villain or, god forbid, a Spider-Man villain, then you're already not adapting the most interesting aspect of his character. That comic you named, Secret Wars, has Doom rebuild the entire universe in his image, with every surviving Avengers showing up to defeat him. But in the end, it's just Doom and Reed, wailing on each other like children, screaming ideologies at each other, separated from everything around them. The stories goes on and on, man. Sue was giving birth to their second child, and due to cosmic yatta-yatta, she nearly died from it. It was Doom that came in and saved her and their daughter, with his price being that he got to name the child. He did this out of spite, wanting little Valeria to be a constant reminder of Doom saving Reeds family while he was powerless. But he also placed her under royal protection, putting himself in the role of a an uncle and godfather for her. A role he repeatedly stepped into over the years. Reed and Doom are so alike in almost every way, yet polar opposites in other. They push the other up and tear him down again. It's this rivalry I want to see adapted, more so just to share it with people that thinks Doom works without Reed as long as he got green lasers and foot dives. They're both lesser characters for it, and I think RDJ, opposite of Pedro Pascal, would absolute kill it if given the chance. So I guess I've talked myself into having less of a problem with the casting RDJ as Doom, and more so casting Doom as Thanos. He should've been a Loki that grows into a Thanos.

[@maxtubb]

The only thing I'll ever like Marvel for is Marvel Vs. Capcom

[@cameronwebb5621]

They shoulda brought Mads back goddammit

[@ArishemTheJudge-19]

They paid RDJ over 80Million dolars just to play the role.

[@sonicmoore6196]

Man it’s so freaking sad how the MCU has fallen apart after Endgame in my opinion. This is what happens when you focus too much on Money than creativity.

[@nor-wood]

Marvel doesn't care about making GOOD movies anymore. There fixed the title for you.

[@mr.iiconic]

They never did.

[@nor-wood]

@@mr.iiconic they have like a couple decent ips somewhere in there Logan and Netflix Daredevil mostly

[@mr.iiconic]

@@nor-wood Logan wasn't Marvel.

[@nor-wood]

@@mr.iiconic yes it was.

[@mr.iiconic]

@@nor-wood Fox made Logan. Marvel had nothing to do with it other than creating the character 43 years before.

[@iurysouza4313]

This ending 😂