Marvel Rivals' Problems | Current Casual Criticism: Overpowered (OP) Heroes + Underpowered Heroes?

[@jarekdefiler]

Didn't get into other issues like poor frame rates, poor servers, janky map issues (why would they think it's a good idea to have destroyed terrain regenerate in the middle of a fight???), among other things... Still may be a toss up of which hero is the worst: Wolverine, Storm or Black Widow. What do you guys think?

[@bepil7178]

Wolverine is not bad whatsoever, wolverine is ranked is fucking CRAZY

[@asharrav]

yup, he’s a high floor high ceiling character. if you focus tanks he’s broken

[@jarekdefiler]

My thinking on him being bad is more in comparison to all the other heroes on the roster and the technical issues with his kit, mainly his feral leap not working a lot of the time. He doesn't really bring much to the table outside of simply abducting tanks (when his feral leap decides to connect anyways lol). That's all he's good for. Being pigeon holed into only doing one thing well is bad design imo. Is he still viable? Sure, in a niche setting. But when it comes to doing anything else, other heroes are far superior. Same with Storm and Black Widow. And other heroes can kill tanks as well, some even faster. I melt tanks far faster on Squirrel Girl then I do on Wolverine, for example, and am still able to melt other heroes as well, unlike him. I still enjoy the hell out of playing him though.

[@prodigalsun1678]

@@jarekdefileri have noticed this in my gams. Even a good wolverine can feel like they are applying absolutely zero pressure until they grab a tank and when i try to push in and create space as a tank i feel like im completely alone because my wolverine doesnt actually do anything for me.

[@jarekdefiler]

It's an uphill battle for sure. Unfortunately, Wolverine is so cooldown reliant that he has to sit back a lot of times while he waits for his abilities to refresh; otherwise, he's a sitting duck most of the time. ☹

[@Cheezeboigas]

@@asharravso he’s only good in certain situations? You shouldn’t be forced to focus only a few characters or have to rely solely on cooldowns. Take iron fist for example, he’s a melee character who outshines wolverine in every way, in both self heal and damage

[@lazygamer4746]

We don't need balance, we need fun. Don't change a thing.

[@jarekdefiler]

Well, balance can bring more fun for all involved. I'm of the same mind. So long as the imbalances don't take away the fun it's not that big of a problem. Currently, Hawkeye is the only hero I think breaks that concept. Hela doesn't even bother me really.

[@lazygamer4746]

@jarekdefiler i think after this season is over and Hawkeye and Hela lose their 20% seasonal damage boost they won't be so oppressive.

[@polar6066]

what a terrible take lol

[@jarekdefiler]

So strange why they give damage boosts to individual heroes each season. Is it an attempt to control the meta? Not sure I understand the motive lol.

[@DNYLNY]

Change is coming tomorrow ❤

[@joshholleran9005]

People need to ACTUALLY PLAY THEIR RANK in comp, too many smurfs and people getting carried by insane higher level people and then dominating in gold/platinum when no one else can, and the cheating is CRAZY.

[@jarekdefiler]

I haven't really heard good things about competitive. Smurfing seems to be one of the main issues along with server problems/people losing matches because of disconnect and latency issues. Feel bad for the ranked players.

[@joshholleran9005]

@jarekdefiler it's a tough road for ranked, but it's fun when things make sense and are fair at least

[@nathantarleton7257]

Generally an issue I find with the game is that almost every character has a way to gain health or simply avoid combat when in a sticky situation, makes a lot of scenarios low risk if everyone can just heal it away, or simply run away. I also call this tiktok overwatch, since the damage and healing is so high, everything happens very fast and that can be fun, especially once everyone is good enough to mitigate some of this, however there's the issue that either nothing gets done through the absurd amounts of healing, or nothing gets done on one team alone because you die in two shots each time you respawn.

[@jarekdefiler]

Healing is insanely strong in Marvel Rivals for sure. However, I feel the time to kill is very reasonable. When using the map tactically, you can get in and out of fights pretty easily with line of sighting and not rushing into the whole enemy team. Of course the hero you play factors into that, but I think the TTK is good imo. That said, there does seem to be an issue with matchmaking imbalance that I didn't discuss in the video. Many, many matches are always so one-sided. One team will just stomp the other and that's not very fun as I find it's very common. One match my team will get 80+ kills to the enemy's 12, and the next match it's vice versa. Unfortunate.

[@iamtheteapot7405]

Definitely need some balancing but also players just don't know how to use and avoid abilities very well yet so big changes should be avoided for a while in my opinion.

[@jarekdefiler]

Great point. The game is indeed still in its infancy.

[@simenvh2353]

16:39 rockets revive beacon has a 50 second cooldown but yeah, iron fist and magik having better regeneration than wolverine feels a little wierd

[@jarekdefiler]

Ah you're right! Thanks for the correction. Me noob 😅

[@OnlyTidus]

45 but yeah

[@simenvh2353]

@OnlyTidus oh its 45? Could've sworn I'd seen a 50 on there

[@yabito]

I think the problem is not the heroes OP. But the others that are not. Maybe increase cooldowns for OP heroes could balance instead start to nerf everyone

[@jarekdefiler]

Yeah, I never felt anyone is OP, just a bit too strong compared to others (there is a difference lol). I would like a bit of damage reduction for Hawkeye and Hela though. Having Hawkeye require two headshots to kill like Widow and Hela requiring three headshots I think would make them a lot less frustrating to play against while still being effective. Especially Hela given her attack speed.

[@stockrappy]

Nailed it, just tune up the under performing heros.

[@edl4654]

I lost my rank up game to plat due to servers. All of us lagged. We did not disconnect. But it was difficult to hit shots as i am a hawkeye main... we ran over them on map 1 and lost 2 and 3 due to servers

[@jarekdefiler]

Unfortunately a common occurrence. My ping in Marvel Rivals constantly rides into the 70-80ms. Any other pvp game I'm sitting around 23ms. Lame.

[@edl4654]

@jarekdefiler it felt like a server ddos, cause everybody had the issue. This happened multiple times already and everybody was tipping in all chat that its lagging so it was not only for me... But it has a happy ending I am plat 2 now :)

[@jarekdefiler]

Congratulations! 😎👍

[@Dotsforall]

The game seems to be designed around situational adaption. Certain heros more than othere are designed to handle certain situations. Wolverine is to harass tanks, peni is area denial, widow for when you cannot get close to the backline so you assassinate from afar, etc Hela, needs to have a damage nerf. Haweye needs to have his hitbox size greatly reduced and maybe his damage

[@Kevfactor]

You have to be descent to heal in this game past maybe mantis. So much target flicker and positioning needed to stand a chance. and most healers you have to choose between dps and healing , which if you’re bad puts your team behind in dps. + at low elo you need more healing too which is why some teams get pug stomped even with balanced teams

[@jarekdefiler]

It can be tough indeed. Given I only play quick play I'm sure I'm at the bottom of the barrel elo-wise. I do Loki a lot and my biggest issue is my team not being aware of my clones and always line of sighting me lol.

[@sonnyst-fleur9459]

For the battle pass thing it’s helpful for the community to reset each season take destiny 2 for example you could stock up on bounties and redeem them the next season and complete the season pass in 4 seconds

[@jarekdefiler]

I see. So wiping the tokens each season generally isn't common practice in most battle passes?

[@YMan-zo5kg]

Overpowered: Hela, Luna, Mantis, Hawkeye, hulk team up, warlock team up, rocket punisher team up. Underpowered: Widow, cap, wanda, storm, venom, rocket, squirrel girl Super buggy: wolverine

[@jarekdefiler]

Ah come on bud! Squirrel girl is the best! 😆 That's pretty much how I feel about Wolverine. Simply buggy, and that's what makes him bad atm. If his feral leap was fixed and more consistent, he'd be fine (maybe with some love in regard to damage against non-tanks).

[@YMan-zo5kg]

@ her ult just seems horrible and I just don’t see any squirrel girl at a higher level

[@YoungBillyKatastrophe]

All the characters are overpowered which is the way it should be 😂😂

[@KyyRo-6]

4:03 they just shouldn't give us that much currency then it's just dumb

[@jarekdefiler]

Agreed.

[@notobi-wan8344]

Biggest problem imo is incredibly toxic playerbase. I can see arguing in ranked but who tf cares if we have 1 stragedist, 1 vanguard and 4 duelists in quickplay. Let people play for fun no reason to get upset in gamemode that winning or losing dosent matter anyway

[@jarekdefiler]

My thoughts exactly. Quick play has always been the casual fun mode and when people get upset that you aren't towing the ranked line it can get rather frustrating. I understand wanting to win but you can still try to win with whatever hero you wish. At the end of the day, just have fun. I've won plenty of games with no vanguards or only one strategist. Uphill battle but doable in quick play. Sadly, playing games for fun has become a lost art these days...

[@notobi-wan8344]

@jarekdefiler 100% agree with last part. Thats why I rather play singleplayers so i dont have to deal with people who play games like their life depended on it

[@jarekdefiler]

Lol, understandable. I'm in the same boat for the most part. Marvel Rivals is the only pvp game I've played for quite some time. Still is fairly accessible to casuals I'd say. The AI games aren't terrible either.

[@booshandorkakow64]

Ah and theres the defeatist mentality that excuses poor play. Gotta love it.

[@notobi-wan8344]

@@booshandorkakow64 defeatist attidute when i get told to kys and hoping i get stage 4 when i used Strange and they lost 1st round? Got it

[@czms922]

Tbh Loki is prob the best support

[@jarekdefiler]

Capable of some fantastic numbers for sure. Especially when your teammates pay attention to where the clones are and stay in their line of sight...which they rarely do in quick play lol. My favorite support by far though.

[@janikut_]

Wolverine destroys enemy triple tank

[@jarekdefiler]

Unfortunately that's all he's good for. The poor dear...

[@janikut_]

@jarekdefiler its whats keeping "goats" type compositions in check. Very important and something ow didnt have

[@jarekdefiler]

Fair point. I just wish he was at least decent in other departments without having such an uphill battle.

[@GutsOfRivia]

Wolverine based on player is ethier completely broken or completely useless, no inbtween I think he needs to be given some consistency.

[@jarekdefiler]

For sure. His consistency if my biggest issue. Fix the jankiness of his feral leap and he's waaaay better.

[@GutsOfRivia]

@@jarekdefiler Yea I also think he need a bit more power against non tanks. I was also thinking maybe he gets a movment speed boost based on how high his rage is.

[@jarekdefiler]

I'd take a movement speed boost for sure lol. One of the most annoying things is people just backpedaling outside your range shooting you in the face (which I do all the time on squirrel girl heehee) XD

[@alejandrobrown1499]

That Wolverine take was awful 😂😂😂 but you did say you're a casual quick play type so i get it.

[@alejandrobrown1499]

Leap angle fix sure, one sec off cooldown sure, but if he starts shredding everyone yall just gonna wanna have him nerfed.

[@jarekdefiler]

I'd be happy with feral leap hitbox fix and maybe a movement speed buff based on rage like @GutsOfRivia suggested.

[@the_spice7349]

The bots in quick play is the issue i feel that needs to be fixed first because it would be rather easy to do. Now when you get into a bot game in quick play it doesn't feel like youre breaking a losing streak, it just feels like a chore tou have to do before you get to play the game again

[@jarekdefiler]

It does feel a bit tedious at times. Wiping the floor with the enemy team isn't a particularly enjoyable experience lol.