Marvelman Family's Finest #1 - Atop the Fourth Wall

[@Dynaman21]

Apparently the Miracleman case is so convoluted, they actually teach it in law school re: copyright law and trademark filing,

[@daelen.cclark]

Good on that school. Does it end with an essay assignment about how to not repeat it?

[@williammorahan4907]

@@daelen.cclark Let’s hope so. Someone call LegalEagle.

[@meowistforlife]

@@williammorahan4907 That would be awesome

[@adamlevine1914]

Fun fact: the reason Marvel was able to buy Marvelman/Miracleman was because Dez Skinn never had the rights to it in the first place, the rights had, in fact, stayed with the creator, Mick Anglo. So Marvel simply offered to buy them from him and he said yes, on the sole condition that some of his own Marvelman stories would be reprinted, too, as well as the Alan Moore stuff. Marvel agreed and that's how we get a bunch of Classic Marvelman stories reprinted. Another fun fact: Alan Moore was happy that Mick Anglo finally got the money he deserved, but he also didn't want his name on any of the Miracleman comics. Marvel agreed, so instead of saying "Alan Moore," all of the Miracleman comics he wrote say "The Original Writer" instead.

[@trooper9249]

Another another fun fact: Alan Moore also said that he was going to donate part of the royalties from the reprints of his Marvelman stories to Mick Anglo.

[@keelanbarron928]

You would think that reprinting the old comics would be something marvel would've done already? Not a very good condition.

[@Levitz9]

For all the reputation Moore gets for being a grumpy old man, Moore always has been and always will be the greatest ally to creator's compensation and crediting there ever will be. He's a real mensch. Thanks, Moore. Thoore.

[@JeffreyPiatt]

Well after he got screwed over by his contract for Watchman. He was to get the rights back once the book left print and before Watchman comics didn't get endless reprints and special editions. Basically his comic has never left print so he's permanently mad at DC for tricking him out of royalties.

[@kenlieck7756]

@@JeffreyPiatt But at least he never made... A Contract With Todd!

[@zakfett92]

“We got tired of Linkara complaining about the size of the moon, so we’re getting it reduced…”

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

*His Throne*

[@kitestar]

Ah yes, dr linksano’s shrinkinator, what a bargain they must have bought it in

[@daelen.cclark]

I hereby retitle it: “The Space Donut”!

[@LordSchattenwind]

"The world is doomed. But that means *I'll* perish with it, that's bad!" Finally, a villain with some common sense.

[@teedup8995]

Reminds me of an episode from Secret Squirrel were the villain Captain Ahab steals the world's most powerful submarine in the world and says, I'm going blow up the world, just for kicks! To which are tied up hero responds, You do that and you'll be breaking the law Ahab!

[@Crazyivan777]

The first Superman / Spiderman crossover had Doc Ock betray Luthor because Luthor was doing some apocalyptic stuff and Spidey reminded Ock that destroying the world meant he'd have nowhere to live.

[@changvasejarik62]

There is no profit to be made in the destruction of the planet, it's very bad for business. -Wilson Fisk Spider-Man TAS

[@ProjektTaku]

@@Crazyivan777 Even better: There was a comic where Lex Luthor meets his alternate counterpart, Alexis Luthor, who's far more bloodthirsty. They team up to defeat both their Supermen, until Alexis reveals he plans on crashing 2 earth's together to destroy all heroes. Lex then turns on him because he has a sister and doesn't want to destroy everyone on Earth cause of grudge between himself and Superman.

[@doggosho3044]

But it would come with a free frogurt!

[@JomasterTheSecond]

"Wow! I've ruined the world....." That sure is one way to put it. All that's missing is "That can't be good!"

[@homuraakemi103]

To be fair, that’s a mood…

[@daelen.cclark]

@@josephheiskell3493 THAT MUST BE GOOD!

[@daelen.cclark]

That needs to be a meme.

[@CJMoody]

Finally, a villain who realizes that destroying the world has consequences for them too.

[@CJMoody]

Also, my first time hearing of a marrow was from a game on Neopets where one is to guess the weight of a giant marrow.

[@daelen.cclark]

“Wow! I ruined the world.” That needs to be a meme.

[@lordultimus559]

Fun fact: Mick Anglo gave Gargunza his name because that's what he called his brother when he was mad at him.

[@kenlieck7756]

Funner fact: Mick and Anglo are both names that can refer to someone from Ireland!

[@williamgreci8219]

Marvel Man: So why did you make that gas that almost destroyed the world? Doesn't really fit your past perils. Gargunza: My original plan was a vapor that could destroy mountains, thus making more room for development and agriculture. Taking credit for changing the planet to suit humanity's needs would've yielded recognition for my scientific capabilities. Unfortunately, my field test revealed that the vapor didn't know when to stop. Marvel Man: Hey, just like you!

[@furonguy42]

I can't get enough of the name "Young NastyMan". Its descriptive to such a degree it doesn't sound like its even meant to be his name. They could have called him "Youthful Rapscallion" or simply "Whippersnapper" and it'd have the same effect.

[@VideoGuyIdiot22]

There was a Black Adam equivalent called Nastyman.

[@Hawkatana]

@@VideoGuyIdiot22 We know, that doesn't make it sound natural.

[@Heavenlyhounds96]

Ash on Xenomorphs: The perfect lifeform. Some Kryptonian scientist making Doomsday: Hold my Beer

[@gregcourtney751]

Dr gerald robotnik: everyone knows the perfect lifeform should be a hedgehog.

[@Inspiration_Date]

I can't wait to see the rest of Marvelman's extended family--Teen Marvelman, Baby Marvelman, Old Marvelman, and Girl Marvelman.

[@caliph95]

I can't tell whether you're joking or not

[@mattwo7]

Come to think of it, he never did get a proper equivalent to Mary Marvel, did he? Instead Young Marvelman and Miraclewoman were Mary's counterparts

[@justinhammer3196]

Sure. Add Girl Marvelman. Go woke.

[@garethspotfur1]

I agree. Girls need the right to go on murderous rampages as much as male heroes do.

[@EternalKHFan0]

Don't forget their faithful pets - Cat Marvelman, Dog Marvelman, Parrot Marvelman, Goldfish Marvelman and Guinea Pig Marvelman.

[@JuanLeon-oe6xe]

Linkara: "It feels like this is the equivalent of throwing corpses at your enemies". Blue from OSP: Well, it's a really funny story all things considered. [Uncaps beer bottle] What?

[@danking9936]

You having never heard of a marrow reminds me of how in the American release of Wallace and Gromit and the Curse of the Were-Rabbit!, they re-dubbed it so that the marrow Gromit was growing was called a "melon" instead, despite it plainly looking like a marrow, because the studio thought American children wouldn't know what a marrow is!!

[@thomaspalazzolo5902]

"Oh. I think I should go" is such a great response to when your weapon harmlessly snaps in half over your opponent.

[@kenlieck7756]

Attention Hollywood scriptwriters!

[@richmcgee434]

I mean, he's not wrong.

[@OnDavidsBrain]

"I should go, I'm Commander Shepard."

[@goranisacson2502]

A while there I was scared we were getting the Alan Moore version, of whom I've only heard frightening stories of. Instead I am introduced to the King of Vegetables and young Nastyman, and all feels wonderful in the world.

[@ToHoldNothing]

I think I looked into that after I was given an extra copy my mom had from the library of the Alan Moore/Neil Gaiman run of Miracleman. It is pretty dark, though I probably forgot most details

[@TheLandofObscusion]

Considering how "Superman vs. Captain Marvel/Shazam" is a semi-recurring concept over at DC, it's kind of surprising that Marvel seemingly has never done "Hyperion vs. Marvelman/Miracleman", even just once. I get that their expys aren't anywhere near as known as the DC/Fawcett originals, but it just sounds like an obvious thing to do, if only to maybe poke fun at the very concept, in general.

[@Mechazaurus]

Wow, when you said Marvelman was made to cash in on Captain Marvel you weren't kidding! Gargunza is just a taller Dr. Sivana with hair, they have "holy macaroni" instead of "holy moly" and it even looks like they're trying to ape C. C. Beck's art style at times. And man, I was laughing non stop during the "Young Nastyman" story. The funniest 5 minuets I've had in a while.

[@kenlieck7756]

They literally were trying to continue after CM was C&D'd, so they tried to maintain something akin to continuity.

[@kenlieck7756]

@@madder9166 Vaguely Amusing Fact: If you Google "victo" the first three things it brings up are the Victoria's Secret catalog, really cool artist Victo Ngai, and Victoria County, TX, where I was born!

[@kenlieck7756]

@@madder9166 (OTOH, If you Google "armlocks" it tells you everything you could possibly want to know about armlocks.)

[@randallflagg3700]

Well, yeah, Emil Gargunza is the "official ripoff" of Dr Sivana, they weren't even trying to hide it. They even created the Shazam rogue "Sivana Jr" (the former being his uncle) in response to Gargunza Jr, who was also the nephem of our fearless hero's nemesis.

[@Mechazaurus]

@@randallflagg3700 Think you have that the other way round, Sivana Jr. was definitely much earlier. But yeah, I see your point. Perhaps it's not quite a rip-off in the usual sense, it's still kind of funny though.

[@awelcruiz]

No, they never address the name change in universe. The comics since Eclipse started publishing them work under the narrative that his name was always Miracleman. He's only ever refered to as Marvelman in the reprints of the Mick Anglo material. Also regarding the lack of British accents, the comic itself was inconsistent about it's setting. There were many early stories that were explicitly said to be taking place in the USA (as the Captain Marvel books had been), but the setting of later stories (particularly Alan Moore's run) was unambiguously British. Great episode. Hope to see you cover some more in the future.

[@alexandersturnn4530]

Gargunza is a weirdly refreshing take on the oldschool 'Mad Scientist Antagonist' Trope for Superhero Comics. Instead of wanting World Domination or personal Power...he mostly just wants to make his inventions into money, even trying to invent things that he thinks will be genuinely helpful to mankind. It's just that, from what we've seen, he sucks at making them safe to use. Hell, when he screws up with the vapor, instead of stubbornly trying to solve it himself and making things worse in the process or trying to abandon earth and humanity to it's fate in a 'Screw you as long as I survive!' kind of deal, he actually alerts Marvelman to the danger, whom he knows will find a way to solve this. And when that one Dictator recruits him, he doesn't get him with promises of World Domination, but with the offer of unlimited Money for his research, experiments and Inventions. For a Superhero Mad Scientist Villain, he's honestly kinda unique.

[@OnDavidsBrain]

26:09 I'm now imagining this bucked toothed little gremlin piloting Bobby Koetick Ala Meet Dave. And considering what Gargunza turns out to be in "A Dream of Flying" I can totally believe he'd be piloting such an evil little man.

[@chaoticjusticezero]

Newscaster: Young Nastyman died shortly after being captured due to an allergic reaction from the antidote, which was made from drugs that don't exist on his world. The doctor was released on bail and his medical license has been revoked. Young Marvelman is wanted for questioning. 23:22 Vegetable King: Magic wasabi, make my vegetables GROW!

[@Caernath]

It looks like Young Marvelman can give Spider-Man some tips on how to rescue people falling from bridges.

[@devlinburgess2463]

So, Miracle-Marvel Man is to legal troubles what Hawkman is to continuity issues. Also, the transformation via mushroom cloud really makes it seem like MM belongs in the stable of heroes from Fallout like the Mechanist and Grognak.

[@KingJaymo2k11]

Am I the only one laughing at the name YOUNG NASTY MAN???😂😂😂😂😂

[@daelen.cclark]

The second-or-so ish of the Moore Run even responded to the name with “don’t say a word.”

[@Mechazaurus]

You are not alone, friend.

[@jake51479]

27:40 "it seems like Marvelman should be questioning these ludicrous things more" Yeah, that is weird. Someone should write a deconstructionist comic explaining why that is

[@daelen.cclark]

Mike Allred’s story in Miracleman Annual is one of the most recent stories to point that out.

[@AdaWongLover5]

I genuinely want to know more about the doctor who can make antidotes for space drugs.

[@Rei-Rei]

The Doctor Who, you say?

[@AdaWongLover5]

@@Rei-Rei Yes, that too.

[@kenlieck7756]

@@AdaWongLover5 Doctor Feel-good?

[@demizson576]

Ah yes, Dr. Wu from Bojack Horseman... Purveyor of drugs and, apparently, antidotes as well.

[@kenlieck7756]

@@demizson576 I only know of Dr. Wu a little. I assume he talks to the animals?

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

9:39 thanks to marvel trying to canonize Miracleman into the 616 ... this by all accounts could be canon

[@mattwo7]

That will be super awkward for Joshua Ayers. Guy died, came back to life, vanished into obscurity and now a hero is going to use his supervillain name except without a space.

[@alexandersturnn4530]

@@mattwo7 Think he could sue for copyright infringement?

[@TerminalSports45]

11:07 "But at least the danger is over... Hey why are the rocks glowing? On no they're radioactive! That can't be good!"

[@rickdaniel7341]

Gargunza: “I’ve invented an acid that destroys rock!” Batman: “…Go on.”

[@PapaTaurean]

"but I want Captain Marvel." "we already have Captain Marvel at home" lol

[@CharlesGouraudgaming]

This is a bit of a trip having just read through the Alan Moore Miracleman stuff, seeing plotpoints that would later be used in that series.

[@COMICSAREAWESOME]

The ill-defined period between the Golden Age and the Silver Age is often referred to as the Atomic Age (roughly 1950-1960) which had a huge sci-fi bent and was sort of reflective of people's fascination with space. The most noted character to come from this time was Captain Comet, but I think its safe to say that Miracleman has him beat in terms of modern day popularity. Which is fitting - I mean if the guy who yells "Atomic" backwards isn't going to represent the Atomic Age, who will?

[@mattwo7]

24:25 That really depends, if something as thin and flimsy as paper can cut people and paper is made from trees, it stands to reason that a properly sharp enough carrot probably could as well. Except... That's not a sword, it's a regular carrot.

[@richmcgee434]

I question whether you can still call it a carrot after honing it to a monomolecular edge. :)

[@drakkenmensch]

8:37 Alternate punchline: "Unfortunately, that was actually a copy of *Atlas Shrugged* that immediately turned him into a misanthropic supervillain."

[@Rixec2]

History is a weird thing when you look back and see where one event just dominoed into something like this.

[@kenlieck7756]

One tiny event like the arrival of a superbeing from another planet...

[@benwasserman8223]

Currently enjoying Neil Gaiman’s Marvel continuation of his Miracleman series, so this is good timing. Also trying to comprehend all of Gaiman and Todd McFarlane’s legal drama- really leaves you crosseyed. All to bring freaking Angela into Thor canon (see MovieBob's breakdown from... nearly a FREAKING DECADE AGO?)

[@louisduarte8763]

COMICS! ARE! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD! And now I want a team-up between Linkara and MovieBob.

[@saithorthepyro3264]

Honestly giving Angela to Thor was just Gaiman's revenge on McFarlane.

[@richmcgee434]

Time flies, don't it? :)

[@benwasserman8223]

@@saithorthepyro3264 For a buck, I believe

[@tomsmurf4225]

"HIS THRONE" Was not expecting a Local58 reference in a AT4W video, but I'm not complaining

[@TheHumbleFellow]

Marrows are a British vegetable. They can grow pretty big as well, some getting up to 5 feet long.

[@fermintenava5911]

It's probably that they're more known as courgette or zucchini - they all belong to cucurbita pepo.

[@gracekim25]

@@fermintenava5911 no courgette is something else entirely 😂 you have Google to look into up

[@krankarvolund7771]

@@gracekim25 Well, I googled this up like you say and yes courgette/zucchinis are the same thing as marrows. Apparently, courgettes are the immature fruit of marrows.

[@adamcraig7842]

You can tell Victo is an alien planet, because hamburgers there are actually made of ham.

[@twig8523]

Ya know why I love Linkara videos? Cuz no matter how crappy the comic is, at some point in the review we can all at least laugh at a little light alliteration. 😁

[@KillFriskey]

It's funny, Wonderboy came across my feed last night and been listening to it and now we get YOUNG NASTY MAN and the obvious reference to it. Seriously, the song still rips 20+ years later.

[@jeremyadler9620]

Great review! I have a simple explanation for why there's a big hole in the cheese moon; Wallace got carried away and took too much of it! I tell ya, Gromit needs to watch Wallace more carefully! Keep up the great videos :)

[@gracekim25]

EH😂

[@markhalm9889]

This is so complicated it resulted in Angela winding up in the Marvel Universe. I am as serious as a heart attack.

[@kenlieck7756]

That's not Angela, that's Angina!

[@hirosoli]

She's one of my favorite characters in Marvel!

[@daelen.cclark]

And THAT one came from Image!

[@zaquhe]

I thought Young Marvelman's name was "Dicky Dongless" at first. It's a shame that's not actually the case because that would be hilarious

[@zexalbrony4799]

8:38-8:43: Oh I thought it was a book about the history of Jack Atlas. LOL. 12:18-12:24: Sounds like a great place for Princess Luna. XD. 17:21-17:27: Now I see why this episode took so long. It must have taken like a hundred takes to say all that in one sentence. Lmao.

[@thatsgib6015]

I would honestly love to see a story where the supervillain attempts to defeat the superhero by suing them, and attempting to place a copyright on their name, that way they cant go out and be that superhero because they no longer have the rights to do so

[@richmcgee434]

I refer you to Lord Smoked Meats and Fishes, formerly known as Lord Bravery. One of the more entertaining characters to come out of Freakazoid back in the day.

[@xavierfrendick6581]

I mean, that was... partially a plot point in She-Hulk, wasn’t it?

[@thatsgib6015]

@@xavierfrendick6581 Never watched or read it so I wouldn't know

[@thatsgib6015]

@@richmcgee434 I'll have to check that out, tho makes sense that that is a Freakazoid character lol

[@plantainsame2049]

Feed the thing is a vigilante wouldn't care they're already breaking the law

[@jeremyborder6794]

9:23 “Wow! I’ve ruined the world!” Needs to be a new meme for this channel

[@FruityGroovy]

The phrase "Holy Macaroni" implies Jesus really likes Kraft Mac & Cheese

[@dragonknight1560]

I'm surprised it took this long for Linkara to cover a bit of the grand history of Marvelman and I'm happy he did because like geez... the history of this hero's creation is the most noodle-knot experience you will ever learn. It is entirely insane but these old comics are pretty fun especially that Marvelman's greatest nemesis is some nerd. That's... wow.

[@sebastianevangelista4921]

And then Alan Moore turned that nerd into a sexual predator who collaborated with nazis because of course.

[@ZeddtheVHSotaku]

I don't know what you would call that age of comics, but my guess is would be the electrum age. Since it's a gold and silver alloy.

[@CosplayingwithChad]

Great video Linkara! A missed opportunity to make the joke at 20:05 was a clip of Batman returns Penguin “Why do they always gotta bring the eggs and tomatoes to these speeches?!”

[@akasquirrel87]

The cutaway gags were really on point this episode. Kudos

[@BronzeBoy520]

Ahh… the British Captain Marvel. That is definitely how you can tell Alan Moore REALLY wanted to make him edgy. I like Miracleman but man… it’s weird how much people take these old characters and instantly go ‘super edge dark’. Can’t blame em, I wanna do a super dark eldritch horror take on Stardust the super wizard.

[@gregcourtney751]

Thats just the subtext of the originals.

[@richmcgee434]

@@gregcourtney751 I'm not even sure it's subtext. More like just text. Hanks might as well have been a mask of Nyarlathotep.

[@nicklovejoy6451]

I mean...thats just stardust. Dude was a psycho with godlike powers.

[@baliyae]

I honestly had no idea who Marvelman was and his history. Though, I was curious about it, so I decided to check out this episode.

[@richmcgee434]

It is a deep, deep rabbit hole of weird legal angles and strange deconstructions of a character that started off as a simple Captain Marvel expy.

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

I'm honestly surprised it's taken this long for something Miracle Man related to get a Patreon Request. Regardless it's good to see a Superman Analog focused series get covered.

[@jadenbryant9283]

would love to see if invincible gets covered here

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

It's likely he'll get a patreon request to cover either the Invincible War (A one issue crossover event) or issue 110 ("That Issue")

[@Antonicane]

A secret to be told. A gold chance to be bold. And blasting forth, in three-part harmony.

[@stormwolf3252]

Wait, how did Marvel get the rights to Wonderboy? :P

[@AceSpadeThePikachu]

Gargunza's monologue about mountains causing floods from snow-melt and forcing clouds to drench certain areas in rain while leaving other places dry is TECHNICALLY true...but in most places in the world where that stuff happens it's vital to the ecosystem. Heck, over three billion people in Asia rely on seasonal snow-melt from the Himalayas for drinking water and crop irrigation.

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

You could rename the entire series as "Marvel Madness" simply because the whole backstory and every single piece of litigation towards it is enough to drive anyone to madness. That is unless Mark Cerny or Atari Games decides to sue because the name is a *little* too similar to the game "Marble Madness."

[@daelen.cclark]

“Miracle Madness”, perhaps?

[@nonspiderweb]

Apparently Image comics is also involved in the long lawsuit history, for whatever reason either Todd McFarlane or Neil Gaiman had Miracle man or MAN OF MIRACLES appear in Spawn where was essentially The Mother of God and the Devil. but because of all... THIS. That got retconned away. Spawn can be kind of weird...

[@louisduarte8763]

4:08 Who, IRL or the Marvel U, still remembers when THAT happened? Will it be the same for Conan, for that hot minute he was in and out of the MU?

[@elpizo1789]

So I guess Gargunza one-upped Eggman and no-one knew it.

[@RedAnArticle]

Speaking of ripoffs, Young Nastyman there is a spot on one for Black Adam, with the same receding hairline and dark color scheme. And Gargunza is 100% Sivana's copy given the design similarities, mad scientist, nickname they call the hero being Big [Color] [Noun], and the uncomfortable 1940's racism with the big buck teeth and thick heavy glasses.

[@brianskelly4979]

Pretty sure Marrow is just a Zucchini in Britain

[@seanfulldark]

When you mentioned we saw Batman take on Aliens my brain instantly jumped now we're going to see Tony!

[@GamerGoingGrey]

I literally clapped out loud at the Tenacious D reference. Well done

[@stonekidman2306]

Great episode! I’ve never read these but heard about the legal issues from moviebob. I LOVED linkara’s cheesy grin after listing off the antidote ingredients lol

[@LemurDreamer87]

Yeah, Gargunza is definitely slightly-tweaked Dr. Sivana. Young Nastyman seems to have a bit of Black Adam to him too, though it's not as blatant.

[@NateDHWT2023]

I have to wonder if Linkara doing the 'His Throne' thing was creepier for people who get the reference or people who have no idea what he was doing.

[@Levitz9]

That one flew over my head, didn't catch the reference.

[@jackwells8107]

FYI - I started reading Marvel Man in Warrior. The owner at my LCS over ordered on it, and gave me a deal on the first several issues. Re: Name change - No, they never addressed it. Eclipse republished everything that had appeared in Warrior (B&W), in color, and he was just always Miracleman. In Moore's ret-con, all the stories you reviewed actually were dreams. My first exposure to Captain Marvel was through the DC comics title that ran from '72 to '78 (I was 7 in 72). The ones I really remember were the 100 page super spectaculars which had a lot of the reprints of the Golden Age stuff. As a young adult, that made it a lot of fun looking for places where Marvel Man 'borrowed' from Captain Marvel - from 'the Big Red Cheese' to 'Holy Moly!'. 'By Hackenslack', though... You wonder if he inspired Officer Krupke? And finally - you know what's weirder than a doctor just happening to have an antidote for a potion from an alien world? Being able to get it through the skin of a member of the Nastyman family with a regular hypodermic.

[@Levitz9]

"Behold... I teach you the Superman! He is this lightning... he is this madness!"

[@StudioInkblot]

Seeing Linkara use a Scott the Woz clip is a weird collision of worlds.

[@1987MartinT]

Honestly, this comic is great. I can see why it was such a hit. Would you be willing to review more of it?

[@salamisofdragons4597]

Uuuuuuuuuh, Linkra? Mountains do actually help in the formation of clouds. They often push clouds up, causing them to condense to the point of becoming rain. The mountains acts as a point where rain will happen and blocks it from traveling further.

[@xavierfrendick6581]

You know... okay, consequences aside, the first story, Gargunza wasn’t really being all that evil. He had an idea to both make money and benefit people (arguably), he went to test it, and the rest backfired horribly. So he then actually called the guy who could help solve the problem. I’m not saying it wasn’t a potential disaster of massive proportions, but... yeah. More “greedy idiot who could still invent acid vapor” than “wicked villain.”

[@DWP102589]

To answer your question about the name change in the end credits: no, the name change to Miracleman is not addressed in anyway in-universe. Marvel seems to be using the original name to refer to just the original Mick Anglo version, with Miracleman referring to the Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman runs. In the later case, it’s just treated like his name has always been Miracleman and never anything else.

[@gracekim25]

Wait Neil? As in the author of CORALINE, Neil?

[@DWP102589]

@@gracekim25 the very same

[@Rei-Rei]

@@gracekim25 No, you're thinking of one of the other Neil Gaimans.

[@daelen.cclark]

@@gracekim25 Yeah, him and Mcfarlane’s Spawn lawsuit case spilled into the Miracleman suit. It’s WILD.

[@richmcgee434]

21:55 The only other time I've ever heard "vegetable marrows" referenced in fiction is in Agatha Christie's work. Hercule Poirot is obsessed with growing the damn things, because if Sherlock Holmes has that bee fetish then by god Christie will give her brainy detective an eccentric hobby as well. Almost definitely some kind of English thing.

[@Acelister]

I never knew that Linkara wrote his script on really looonnng pieces of paper!

[@AkumaKristian]

17:21 Man I would love to see Linkara cover something Red Dwarf related someday... Also fun fact about marrows: one was a plot point in the Wallace & Gromit movie: Curse of the Wererabbit. (which apparently caused an argument between Aardman and Dreamworks)

[@JeffreyPiatt]

Now.to.wait.for.this guy to.enter the MCU.

[@PFiction24]

‘It’s a gourd bitch.’ Could be the best out of context clip ever

[@mattwo7]

21:53 It rings a bell but I don't think I had heard of that before either. Also, it's actually a fruit. Not that fruits aren't vegetables. Vegetables are any edible part of a plant. (Edit: 23:46 there's your answer right there) Course, when I was a teenager, I also originally thought "dragonfruit" was an artificial flavor like blue raspberry or a couple of those weird Kool-Aid flavors.

[@stormwolf3252]

0:07 - Ooohoo! Now you know what it's like to do intense research like Phelous. :P 18:17 - Well, you may think about his future Alan Moore style. I personally think he'll go from Little Lamplight to Big Town.

[@mjolnirfan]

This was great I've wanted him to cover a Marvelman comic for a long time now, and I highly recommend checking out the new Miracleman series.

[@CalliopePony]

Vegetable marrow is British for zucchini. I looked it up after first reading the term in an Agatha Christie novel. I was confused about what Poirot was growing in his garden.

[@richmcgee434]

Literally the only other place I've ever seen the word used, that. I remember having to look up tisane, too.

[@BlameThande]

No, that's a courgette. Marrows are a different thing. I didn't realise America didn't have them till apparently they had to change a line in the Wallace and Gromit Were-Rabbit film so the US audience could understand.

[@trooper9249]

There's a real uncomplicated innocent charm to all this. Some unambiguous good guys tossing around some hilariously over the top bad guys, what's not to love? I'm probably a bit too squeamish to ever try Alan Moore's run, but I might try to pick up this. I always do love a good Golden Age/Silver Age comic.

[@otakon17]

12:49 I was waiting for that joke and was not disappointed, bless you Lewis.

[@MeliesCinemagician]

Ah, good old Golden Age silliness at some of it's finest.

[@DoctorDisasterDracula]

Imma be honest. I was walking around my house to grab a drink from the fridge, then I heard Linkara bring up the "King of Vegetable Land" and I couldn't help, but to pause for a moment for that to process.

[@TheEmeraldWeirdo]

12:28 Kind of surprised Linksano didn't give his two cents there... Marrows are a type of squash (in the same family as zucchini) that are native to the UK. To my knowledge, they aren't grown in the States much, so it's entirely understandable that you don't know about them.

[@larrylaffer3246]

A lawyer themed superhero "or who we kidding supervillain" would be an awesome idea. You'd think they'd be ineffective at their job but a flick of the wrist and blammo; A cease and desist appears faster than lighting. One that wouldn't physically stop a hero no, but rather would legally stop them! Truly nothing is more scary than bureaucracy.

[@SchazmenRassir]

Nice innocent, physics-breaking world-dooming fun of the Golden Age.

[@jamesadamsfl]

I'm a little familiar with Moore's Miracleman run. It's pretty good, albeit couched in Moore's trademark cynicism of Superheroes + Humanity = Bad that he later went whole hog on in Watchmen. Miracleman at least still has some real poignancy to it. Still, I prefer Alex Ross and Paul Dini for my "realistic" superheroes PS, for anyone curious about the bizarre legal history of this character, Moviebob did a couple of episodes on it. Look up "Marvel Mess" and "Miracle, Man." Good stuff.

[@noahvance6160]

Missed opportunity for a joke, pointing out how when Marvelman yells Kimota, it's spelling the word atomic with a K. "Because poor literacy is Kewl!!!"

[@BrandonCroker]

Marvelman, marvel at his manly ability to…..be a man of Marvel!

[@daelen.cclark]

It’s awesome to hear you talking about this series and it’s insanely convoluted history (not even the Gaiman/Mcfarlane lawsuit crap). I’m glad you’re talking about it, and I hope you discuss the “Silver Age” series when it’s done.

[@flyingfist4203]

Oh wow. It's weird seeing a 'well fitting' Scott the Woz clip but I am all here for it!

[@mattwo7]

I wonder if there will ever be another Marvel and DC crossover. iI there is and they don't have the Miracleman Family meeting the Marvel Family, it will be very disappointing.

[@adrianomoraes5992]

I honestly this campy ludicrous stuff. Say whatever one want of these comics but these guys had the most fun ideas ever for a comic.

[@wstine79]

I'm waiting for Marvelman to get a movie adaptation that Alan Moore will hate.

[@kenlieck7756]

Why? What's left for him to quit in disgust?

[@leephillips4402]

Since Blue Marvel is appearing in the next Captain Marvel movie you'd think they'd just put him in that.

[@ZemeckisTEN]

Alan Moore is a pretentious prick, TBH.

[@maldon3659]

He would probably hate it because it wouldn't have the infamous pregnancy scene that shows every gorey detail of child birth

[@williammorahan4907]

Technically it would have to a *Miracleman* movie for him to really hate it.

[@changvasejarik62]

The Miracle family’s unwillingness to question their world was explained and retconned in miracleman #6(a personal favorite). Rather similar to what happened with the doom patrol when Morrison took over and asked “why did the chief make an evil looking giant robot?”(besides the standard reason anyone would want to build a giant robot(BECAUSE THEY CAN AND IT’S FUN)) Also as a fan of young miracleman I am as stoked about MM:silver age continuing this year as you were with titans rebirth. Also also, 22:14 princess peach tried but I don’t like her chances against MM.