Maserati Ghibli - Why The Car That Should Have Saved Maserati Nearly Killed Them

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JayEmm on Cars

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Жыл бұрын

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Today, the Maserati Ghibli - on paper a great car, but one that failed to find an audience when new. As a used purchase - is it much better?
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@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
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@davidlevy2570
@davidlevy2570 Жыл бұрын
I drove a low mileage 2017 Ghibli SQ4 for about a year. Mine had the two tone black and tan interior with dark walnut trim and a sunroof. The interior and the trunk space is what sold me on the car. It was entirely trouble-free and the only reason I traded it off for a GTI was that it was simply too bulky to drive and park in a small college town. I never regretted my short period of Maserati ownership.
@simonelliott5956
@simonelliott5956 Жыл бұрын
There’s no doubt that they are a beautiful looking car, I’d love to see how the SQ4 compares to the 2 wheel drive and my current C7 RS6, this is the one I think is more special than the rest.
@an-dr6eu
@an-dr6eu Жыл бұрын
@@simonelliott5956 They're excellent to drive and be driven into too...
@freespirit2520
@freespirit2520 Жыл бұрын
Bro exactly I don’t know why people always talk shit about these cars. I have owned mine for about five years and it has been one of the greatest vehicles compared to other Mercedes s classes that I’ve also owned.
@jamesrobert4106
@jamesrobert4106 Жыл бұрын
​@@freespirit2520 They talk shit out of pure jealousy.
@christophermckee7092
@christophermckee7092 10 ай бұрын
@@freespirit2520 I've had mine for five years and it has been a joy. Zero problems; minor maintenance. I have no idea why these video 'critics' crap on these cars.
@SturbokSensei
@SturbokSensei Жыл бұрын
This car represents so many weird choices that were made inside the FCA group. The weirdest at least to me was that they still invested a lot of money to develop a hybrid powertrain for the Ghibli so late into it's production, but for example the giorgio platform of the Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio was more or less abandoned (no hybrid for you, EVER!) and it received very few meaningfull updates in terms of powertrain options during its (still ongoing) production cycle. Mind boggling that they just poured money into this thing while other brands could have benefited them much more.
@marantamil459
@marantamil459 Жыл бұрын
Well the new STLA platform is based on the Gorgio platform, it's just been changed slightly for electric cars.
@oliverstemp9132
@oliverstemp9132 Жыл бұрын
The Giorgio platform is at least used for the Jeep Grand Cherokee
@oliverstemp9132
@oliverstemp9132 Жыл бұрын
@@marantamil459 only STLA Large is Giorgio based
@marantamil459
@marantamil459 Жыл бұрын
@@oliverstemp9132 exactly.
@hagestad
@hagestad Жыл бұрын
Can't agree more. Too bad they are so messed up. They are usually better looking that lets say competitors from BMW and Mercedes but you can't polish a turd as they say.
@GregoryTKint
@GregoryTKint Жыл бұрын
That cut to Joe was absolutely brilliant 😂 I instantly thought of him when you mentioned "people buying an M3 every year" 🤷🏼‍♂️
@Corvolet5
@Corvolet5 Жыл бұрын
I personally wonder why anyone would compare this to an M3 in the first place. Completely different direction of buyers.
@emiliospowerballer1441
@emiliospowerballer1441 Жыл бұрын
@@Corvolet5 And also, why is it implied that he buys an M3 every year. I don't get it.
@michaelcoussement4335
@michaelcoussement4335 Жыл бұрын
I drive a Ghibli and in its 150.000km so far, the only thing that ever broke was a small tear in an induction hose at +/- 100K. Apart from that, it has been flawless. Brilliant car and still so beautiful (especially with the 21" wheels). Also noteworthy: the car in the video has the cheaper interior. The full leather interior (dash, tops of door carts, etc.) and alcantara headliner transform the interior. I had the cheaper interior in a few loaners when mine was in for services and it makes it look extremely cheap on the inside IMHO.
@JustARandomFio
@JustARandomFio Жыл бұрын
There are cars you buy with your brain, and there are cars you buy with your heart. Maseratis belong definitely in the second category. Especially the older ones. As a pretty well-situated software engineer with a not-that-shabby income, I was never crazy enough to buy one, although I absolutely loved the Shamal and the 80s QP. I was silly enough, though, to gift myself an Alfa Montreal for the fun times and marry a Lancia Gamma Coupé, my eternal love (besides other escapades that came and left). I drove the Gamma for over 16 years, regularly and as my first car. I made over 260k km. With the original motor and transmission (!). Probably World record. And, surprise, surprise, it cost me a fortune. And quite a few adventurous moments. And meltdowns. Every. Single. Year. But when I finally let her go, my heart literally broke. There are cars you buy with your heart. Who cares about the brain.
@richardharrold9736
@richardharrold9736 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that Maseratis have rarely had enough heart appeal to overrule the head. From the Biturbo to the the Quattroporte IV, they were all ugly as sin and powered by charmless engines that didn't like to rev. The 3200 was an improvement, but the 4200 was much better (although still not exactly pretty). The GranTurismo was a major step in the right direction, but the angry ant-eater nose and Audi-alike rear didn't help. Neither did the lack of a manual option. The only Masers that really appeal to me are the old straight-six ones from the Fifties, and the criminally underrated Khamsin.
@JustARandomFio
@JustARandomFio Жыл бұрын
​@@richardharrold9736 We have to differentiate the realities of the time periods. I'm 58 and had my fast-and-furious time in the mid/late 80s to the 90s. Back then you had no YT and IG, and Italian exotics were toys for the rich. Living in Switzerland, even with my 70 to 100k yearly income, Ferraris and Lambos were out of my league, but Maseratis could've been affordable if you were fortunate and all went smoothly. The 82 QP was my dream but I knew it would end in financial suicide, even the 82 Gamma Coupé was a nightmare to maintain (let alone the Montreal, which I drove way less, tho, so it cost me less). Didn't like the Biturbo but the Khamsin was a delight for the eye, I absolutely agree. I like the (most) modern Maseratis in regard to their look, more than any model of the competition (BMW & Co). IMO they lack in quality, though, for the price they're sold. And in my eyes, it was a mistake to add a "cheap" entry-level (Ghibli), it washed out the brand. I personally would've seen Maserati in the mid-luxury sedan/coupé/SUV segment, complementing Ferrari covering the sports/super/hypercar niche. With adequate performance and quality, of course. And Alfa covering the middle class (great job here, I must say).
@richardharrold9736
@richardharrold9736 Жыл бұрын
@@JustARandomFio the QP3 with the old V8 would probably have been alright. The problem came when they chopped off two cylinders and downsized the remaining ones to make a turbocharged V6 - it was unbalanced, unreliable, rev-shy and charmless. The modern Ghibli could and should have been a success, if only they'd invested in a better interior and better engines. A bigger 3.6 litre naturally-aspirated V6 as an entry level model, and longer-stroke versions of the old F136 V8 up to around six litres would have made a lot more sense than just a rebadged turbocharged 3-litre Chrysler Pentastar.
@Mike7O7O
@Mike7O7O Жыл бұрын
There is a third category. Cars that your penis buys, that your head and heart later scream, too late, "WTAF!" (many Maseratis fit within this category)
@richardharrold9736
@richardharrold9736 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike7O7O what, you mean cars you think will get you women? Because that rarely if ever works as intended. More likely to pull adenoidal men reciting statistics and/or hackneyed myths.
@deanj846
@deanj846 Жыл бұрын
My neighbour had an Mc stradale,quite possibly the best sounding "normal" car I've ever heard..the noise from that thing was simply sublime..
@jamesrobert4106
@jamesrobert4106 Жыл бұрын
Even the mid 2000s QP sound incredible. I remember one passing me as I was walking and I could feel the sublime V8 rumble moving my internal organs 😂
@AaronsTalks
@AaronsTalks Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what attracted me to Maserati's! That era sound incredible...
@robcoleman4779
@robcoleman4779 Жыл бұрын
Had my 2015 Ghibli petrol for 3 years as a daily driver and it hasn't put a foot wrong. JayEmm, I think you nailed the review. For me I wanted something that would stand out in a sea of Mercs, Audi's and Beemers and put a smile on my face. The Ghibli definitely does that.
@zsb707
@zsb707 Жыл бұрын
I bought my 2013 Jaguar XF (X250, LCI) four years ago for the same reason ... but kept my 6 Series coupé (E63, LCI).
@phillipevans9414
@phillipevans9414 Жыл бұрын
Was driving near a late model Ghibli on the freeway only a few days ago, and they have definitely gotten quite large - even as a terminal car nerd, I had to get quite close to it to realize it was in fact a Ghibli and not a Quattroporte. Either way, it's a good day when you spot anything "exotic", out here on the roads, in rural Australia. Cheers!
@francispowell1811
@francispowell1811 Жыл бұрын
Have they grown? News to me.
@3ducs
@3ducs Жыл бұрын
I used to have a blue Ghibli, but mine was a 1969 4.7 and looked like a really special car, not a sedan. A very visceral car, heavy clutch, heavy steering, loud, beautiful.
@heiner71
@heiner71 Жыл бұрын
Those are very special. Always liked them. Those can actually be found in car museums. I have doubts the same will be said about the current iteration.
@3ducs
@3ducs Жыл бұрын
@@heiner71 Mine, AM115870, wasn't perfect, but was an event to drive. A grey market import to the US, Euro spec, 4.7l. A big, heavy beast, it rumbled and roared.
@simonelliott5956
@simonelliott5956 Жыл бұрын
A real Maserati, I just think the brand has lost its way now.
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 Жыл бұрын
I've got a '69 Alfa 1750 GTV. These cars are Italian mistresses. Lovely to ride, give 'em a good fierce drive. They'll throw temper tantrums without warning. Embarrass you in public. Let you down and leave you stranded. Empty your bank account. Lovely, magnificent, beautiful, cruel and an experience we'll never forget.
@3ducs
@3ducs Жыл бұрын
@@raypurchase801 My Alfas were quite reliable, I was never left stranded by one and I had many. The GTV is a beautiful car!
@jonc2638
@jonc2638 7 ай бұрын
I had a Ghibli diesel from new. I owned it for nearly 5 yrs and did 85,000 miles in it. Never had a thing go wrong and I wish I’d kept it longer. It was a fantastic car that also looked fantastic; it was different from the norm and not only did it make you feel special, it made me smile! I now have a diesel Levante that I’ve owned for 4yrs, done 64,000miles and again, not a thing gone wrong. I’m now looking to change this for the Grecale. I guess I just like cars that are a bit different and have a little Italian flare about them!1
@melsmotors
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
Great Video, I own a diesel Ghibli and also own a garage, Servicing isn't an issue for me, reliability hasn't been an issue either. I drive it every day to work, cover 1000 miles PM and enjoy every minute of driving it. I watch a million videos before I bought, and despite the criticism in every video I still bought one. I mapped mine straight away, went from 275BHP - 600NM to 305BHP and 660NM, this transformed the car to what a Maserati should be and feel like. I understand the tyre wear, I had Pirelli MGT's which lasted 3000 miles on the rear as a commuter car - not happy. If you'd like to try it out let me know. Mel
@alech8336
@alech8336 Жыл бұрын
Diesel Masarati: ~grim.
@an-dr6eu
@an-dr6eu Жыл бұрын
@@alech8336 You can always pay us to drive a gasoline one if youre so offended by this. I dont know about him but I wont complain.
@tango22ah
@tango22ah 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment it gave me a sense of relief. I test drove a 2015 diesel with 80k miles and loved it. Put down my deposit as it has to get a service, mot and a 2 wheel refurb. I pick it on Friday but was becoming concerned as every review I’ve seen was negative but now I’m happy thanks to your comment 👍 cheers mate.
@lolkevandewitte1713
@lolkevandewitte1713 6 ай бұрын
I drive a ‘14 Ghibli diesel for my 5th year now. It just turned over the 200k km’s, and it has been flawless. The only thing that ‘broke’ was the soundbooster system (yep, they have one..). Sooner or later those all go (also with Audi…). Further I still enjoy it every day! It is still a great drive! The best ‘update’ I gave it a few years ago was loosing the P-zero’s, and switch to Michelin Pilot Sport 4s.
@lolkevandewitte1713
@lolkevandewitte1713 6 ай бұрын
I drive a ‘14 Ghibli diesel (yes haters, a diesel!) for my fifth year now, and it has been nothing else but flawless (over 200k km’s now…). You are spot on about the tires; the best upgrade I gave it was switching from the P-zero’s to the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s: last 2x as long, and the drive is much better. That all pré-17 models broke is not something I read on the (international) forums I am an member of, and we share all our experiences there, good and bad. The best part of your review is the negative undertone. It allows ordinary people like yours truly to drive this delicious car for a bargain. If I think back to the big diesels I drove from Audi (camshaft problems (and yes, those went all!), timing chain tensioners, tiptronics…) and BMW (transfer box issues (Audi Quattro system is so much better) and timing chain issues) I am so glad I don’t get those garage bills anymore. So keep up the good work! Oh, and by the way, it doesn’t weigh 2 tons, it ís the only 4 door saloon with a proper handling (Maserati created 51/49 weight) and indeed a has a bullit proof gearbox (ZF 8HP) and the engine is built by MV-Motori (yes, it is Italian…), and is not the same as in the Jeep etc (Maserati uses the A630HP-version) but has strong similarities: it delivers 600Nm at 2.000 rpm, but can be upgraded to 720Nm (and Nm*Rpm/9550=Kw….). It sounds pretty decent in sport, but nothing beats the sound of the petrols! So thanks again 🙏!!
@_World_Champion_
@_World_Champion_ Жыл бұрын
12:55 That sound is intoxicating 🔱
@gillesdebritalycars
@gillesdebritalycars Жыл бұрын
Hello, I have had a 2018 Gran Lusso SQ4 for 2 years. Champagne coloured bodywork and sand coloured wood and leather interior. I have had a lot of fun with this car. The engine is smooth, you can drive comfortably but when you get into the revs it is raging, almost like a race engine. Always a smile at the wheel. The boot is also very good. Just the dimensions are bigger than you think when you see it, because the bodywork is very well sculpted. Not always easy to park it in a small parking space. But you feel so special driving it. You feel the whole Maserati history, the GT comfort with a race car DNA.
@simonwillgress
@simonwillgress Жыл бұрын
I got the diesel for all the reasons you mentioned, servicing can be done by any local mechanic and I still think wow every time I walk up to it to get in. It also does 50mpg!
@Mike7O7O
@Mike7O7O Жыл бұрын
Does your heart not die a little bit every time you turn the key and instead of a banshee wail, you're underwhelmed by an agricultural clatter?
@bmwman1981
@bmwman1981 Жыл бұрын
The issue with the diesel is like buying a Bugatti then replacing the engine with a electric motor absolutely pointless exercise
@TheYouTubechannels632
@TheYouTubechannels632 Жыл бұрын
@@bmwman1981 In your opinion. His money, his choice and certainly better looking and feeling than a 3/4 series.
@amateurgolfreviewer3943
@amateurgolfreviewer3943 Жыл бұрын
I also have the diesel. 4 years of ownership and it has only cost me for tyres, servicing and brakes. It's a great car and always gets admiring looks and comments. As for the sound of the diesel, put it in sport and it sounds fantastic to me. It's no V8 sound but it certainly sounds better than it's German competitors. Yes they are better cars overall but this is far far more special. Let's face it how many times do you pull into a supermarket car park and think wow look at that 5 series. Well I never notice them but you can't miss the Maserati if you like cars, especially a white one like mine with red calipers. It's beautiful in my opinion.
@simonwillgress
@simonwillgress Жыл бұрын
@@amateurgolfreviewer3943 fellow white Ghibli owner 👍, why have a boring German diesel when you can enjoy life 🙏
@askiff1415
@askiff1415 Жыл бұрын
My Maserati GranTurismo was 100% reliable, sounded great, looked good and I wasn’t ripped off at a main dealer for servicing. I drove it for 3 years before selling it to some chap in Dublin Beat that!
@m7dgz
@m7dgz Жыл бұрын
I've owned one of these for the last two years. Touch wood, it's been faultlessly reliable. I think you nailed the main points in your review. The switchgear and infotainment being robbed from various Jeep products does cheapen the interior a little, but overall I find it a nice and relaxing place to be. I looked at buying a 6-series Grand Coupe instead of the Ghibli, and dynamically, performance wise etc it would probably have been a much better car, but the Ghibli handles beautifully when you really press on, other than at least in the spec I have, it is very undersprung. I bought with my eyes open, expecting it to need frequent attention from a specialist (main dealers are laughably expensive - I think they assume that Ghibli owners have pockets as deep as someone buying an MC20!), but it has been fine. Finally, it's a Maserati, so you always get people asking interested questions about it, asking to have a look inside etc - you don't get that with a BMW!
@autobahnproven
@autobahnproven Жыл бұрын
A surprisingly positive review. As always, informative and fun to watch! 👍
@boffam00
@boffam00 Жыл бұрын
“I’m more curious about a car that is interesting rather than competent” will be etched on my gravestone.
@f-u-nkyf-u-ntime
@f-u-nkyf-u-ntime Жыл бұрын
My 3.0ltr supercharged XJ does similar mpg, a couple of mpg better on a run and on average but when you buy a car like that you understand that's a price you pay. I got mine on 16000 miles for under £19000 and it has all the presence and exclusivity you want. Plus there's a 2 specialists in my local area.
@jamesrobert4106
@jamesrobert4106 Жыл бұрын
My local garage owner has a diesel one. It looks incredible and actually sounds really good. He likes it because of the amount of Chrysler parts available at a fraction of Maserati parts.
@anthonyknox1493
@anthonyknox1493 Жыл бұрын
I test drove the v6 petrol Ghibli, and whilst there was no doubt it was a stunning car, it felt huge, somehow difficult to place on smaller B roads. The engine was also somewhat of a letdown for me too, it seemed a bit slow to rouse, making the car feel sluggish. I test drove a Giulia Veloce immediately after; that was a revelation! Similar dimensions and layout, yet it felt far more driver-focussed, nimble and agile. I also felt the Alfa's interior was more robust and better put together. I puchased the Alfa.
@an-dr6eu
@an-dr6eu Жыл бұрын
Everyone tries to autoconvince themselves about their decisions... The Giulia is in no way simmilar size wise nor it has a more "robust" or "better put together" interior. The QA of the Ghibli likely takes 10 times more effort than on your run of the mill mass manufactured Alfa sedan.
@anthonyknox1493
@anthonyknox1493 Жыл бұрын
@@an-dr6euas a four door saloon, 29cm difference in length, 8cm difference in width is close enough as makes no odds. 100,000th Ghibli rolled off the production line in 2021- hardly low-volume. I can only say what I experienced myself first hand; there was nothing special about the Ghibli's interior plastics, the vents were fragile and the leather was poorly finished.
@andrewbellinger6120
@andrewbellinger6120 Жыл бұрын
The Alfa is far better than the maserati. Namely due to the 2 billion euro investment in the new giorgio platform architecture. Chassis stiffness, weight distribution, suspension geometry is all superior in the alfa. Maserati has done cosmetic refreshes and look sharp, but are ultimately old outdated cars.
@MF-jp5vp
@MF-jp5vp Жыл бұрын
Spot on review. I've got a 2020 Lavante V6 petrol, chopped in a range rover (I'll get over that bad new car experience in a couple of years) for the Maserati in 2022. Now Maserati's are heavy/solid/premium/well built/reliable.....but as I said I did own a Range Rover before. so Maserati v JLR....no contest the Maserati wins in every category!
@christurner8062
@christurner8062 Жыл бұрын
Good unbiased review. Interesting comment about the Levante, my Wife has a 22 plate GT Hybrid, with the Nerissimo pack which really improves the looks and gives it bigger brakes, wheels and tyres. After years of RR Sports and a Velar (don’t) she really loves it. Ride on the road is good, handling whilst better than a RRS isn’t as good as my SQ8 or a Cayenne, but not bad. Despite being a hybrid fuel economy isn’t great but performance is ok and somehow it still sounds ok, though not as nice as that Ghibli. New Masers today come with a 3 year warranty and service package as standard, a bit like the Ferrari 7 year one, so nothing to pay for service and parts for the three years she’ll probably keep it for - not bad. Level of kit is good, and I like the Tom Tom Nav with Average speed camera countdown. Service is by Graypaul in Nottingham so it’s Ferrari, and so far for routine stuff they’re very good. What clinched it for her was a recent trip to the Savoy Theatre, running late and the doorman offered to valet park her car and it stayed right outside next to the Bentley’s, Astons etc 😁
@Rmcaw
@Rmcaw Жыл бұрын
My dad had a Diesel (🤫) version, the engine wasn’t bad at all, as diesels go. It did have some niggles, I recall the AC having a problem that took longer to repair than it should, but nothing major went wrong. The worse part was the radio, which was completely useless and wouldn’t retune the BBC stations as you moved around so you had to keep manually changing it. When my dad mentioned this conversationally to the service manager at Maserati, he said “if it’s any comfort it’s just as bad in a Ferrari” which didn’t comfort 😂 I also think the rear is ugly and it’s hasn’t got better with age yet. The earlier generation of Quattroporte is still best looking Maserati 4 door. I really sage your comments on the infotainment system. I was in a Dodge Ram that had the *exact* same interface, which just shouldn’t happen. 😅 It was also a bit of a barge, parking it in car parks, you have to have your wits because it filled most spaces, how it would ever fit in an Italian road I don’t know. I think it was designed for the American market mostly because the best part I found about it was it was one the of the best long distance cruisers for the money. The seats were comfortable and supportive and you could drive for 5 hours and get out and not have any aches or pains and pair that here to a diesel and your time between fill ups was minimal. Also people came up and made positive comments, the name Maserati just holds some much more provenance than 90% of marques out there. My dad secretly misses it and it whilst it did have some of that ’Mazza Magic’ it was compromised too much elsewhere.
@DoubleDeckerAnton
@DoubleDeckerAnton Жыл бұрын
I prefer the design of the Quattroporte.
@SuperJralph
@SuperJralph 2 ай бұрын
I have a 2018 Ghibli Gran Sport. Beautiful trouble free car. Pure class.
@croaker4747
@croaker4747 Жыл бұрын
Everyone I’ve ever known to actually own a Ghibli, or actually ANY Maserati, has loved the car on the rare occasions it worked properly.
@syntetiskvag4458
@syntetiskvag4458 11 ай бұрын
The double glazing shot is fabulous James 👏👏
@myfavoritethings4504
@myfavoritethings4504 Жыл бұрын
Trofeo version of this is masterful, way more interesting than anything German.
@mattedwards5912
@mattedwards5912 Жыл бұрын
We've had a 2016 Ghibli S for just over 1 year and 19000 miles. It's had an on/off brake judder problem which is finally getting sorted by the dealer. Apart from the brake problem it is a wonderful car. When the dealer has sorted the brake judder we will offer you a test drive. Tyres, the Pirelli's are awful so we put 4 M PS4s which are wonderful. Sports Italia service ours, £700 or so. Fuel, 30 mpg on a run, 18 around town. Interior, ours has the super soft leather with red stitching (which is amazing). Sun roof is a waste of time. 410bhp is plenty. Turbo lag can be annoying.
@jaysimpson6857
@jaysimpson6857 10 ай бұрын
Do you know what was causing the brake judder? Also I’m surprised to hear it suffered with lag.
@BR-ur2gk
@BR-ur2gk Жыл бұрын
Always a great review
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 Жыл бұрын
A car design anime would be amazing, maybe Studio Ghibli could make it. "Like the Wind Rises" is a great film which follows a Japanese aircraft designer. This is a fitting car for the studio, since it shares the name, it's meant to be.
@jjll9244
@jjll9244 Жыл бұрын
1:42 this is so true! They’ve always seemed like quite an attractive weekend car for me but you read the reviews and quickly move onto anything else 😅
@sundargutka1111
@sundargutka1111 10 ай бұрын
Nice vid and Maser! I rarely listen to journalists, many of them are biased and/or sponsored 😂 Always preferred to test drive cars myself before passing judgement
@faafo2
@faafo2 Жыл бұрын
I came for the sound at 12:50 Thank you!
@thomasusai6708
@thomasusai6708 Жыл бұрын
Honestly i think the interior is quiet nice. High quality leather everywhere and beautiful carbon fiber trim (not that one in the video). And personally i prefer this tipe of climate comands to the touch screens that everybody mounts nowadays
@eze8970
@eze8970 Жыл бұрын
Thanks J, Maserati content always good! Shame this seems to be another 'almost' car, like a lot of Alfas. We all just keep hoping that the next one will be the 'one', if the company survives! 🙏🙏
@JoshuaClaypool
@JoshuaClaypool Жыл бұрын
I did some car flipping from 2020-2022 when the market went a bit bonkers, having traded in my 2017 Corvette Stingray I had for over 3 years for an Afla Romeo Giulia Ti Sport Q4. I loved the way it handled, but the turbo 4 cylinder just didn't quite do it for me even with performance modifications. 6 months into ownership of the Alfa, I came across a low milage one owner Ghibli S Q4 and traded in the Alfa. I enjoyed the Ghibli for about 7 months, never once having any issues aside from the leather on the dash being replaced to the tune of $10k covered by warranty. The service costs, even performing the work yourself were a bit exorbitant though. The tech was also a low spot in the interior, which I excused in exchange for that glorious exhaust note. In the end, it just didn't have the feel I wanted out of my daily driven car and I went back to a coupe, albeit a more practical one than the Vette, with a BMW M235i xDrive. Much more nimble than the Ghibli, but not quite as much as the Alfa, and had plenty of power with the tune and supporting mods. It's not quite the head turner that the previous cars were, but it strikes a good balance between power, handling, and practicality.
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 Жыл бұрын
Lovely car. I'd be terrified to own one.
@benjamintucker1075
@benjamintucker1075 Жыл бұрын
I like your quattroporte… well all 2008-2013 better than the newer models. Just feels more like an Italian car than the new ones. Anyways, great job as usual!
@jimmyfarley5581
@jimmyfarley5581 Жыл бұрын
James you are bloody brilliant! I love everything you do. I can only imagine how amazing your content would be if you had the financial might of the BBC behind you! Good lord.! Well done mate.
@zaphodbeeblebrox5973
@zaphodbeeblebrox5973 Жыл бұрын
You should try my fathers 1971 Indy! was his daily driver back in the 80's
@hamishbartholomaeus
@hamishbartholomaeus 11 ай бұрын
I feel this is why we all watch your reviews; you are brutally honest,(to a fault!😁) and, “you are far more curious in a car that is interesting, rather than competent”. Competent cars are a dime a dozen, (hello Toyota and Hyundai/Kia); show me something with character, and then tell me all the flaws so I can decide if I can live with them.😁 Keep it up, mate. Brilliant.
@Kay_Emm_
@Kay_Emm_ Жыл бұрын
I cannot complain about James’ passionate nature reflects in his videos, but how he remains relatively unbiased. Great work as per usual! My friend has me looking at the Renault Wind as a first car and I have to say I quite like it. Opinions?
@samthemadman5000
@samthemadman5000 Жыл бұрын
1.2 or 1.6? Nice from the back and sides but not so much from the front... very reliable too... decent hp for a first car
@Kay_Emm_
@Kay_Emm_ Жыл бұрын
@@samthemadman5000 The reliability record is surprisingly positive. I’ve been looking at the 1.2s as they seem more common, but I wouldn’t be opposed to a 1.6
@samthemadman5000
@samthemadman5000 Жыл бұрын
@@Kay_Emm_ how much is it up for sale for?
@Kay_Emm_
@Kay_Emm_ Жыл бұрын
@@samthemadman5000 £2650. Pretty good value I think. Cheaper insurance than a lot of options I was looking at, although slightly higher initial purchase price. Having driven my parent's around for a year (or what will be a year when my current policy is up) I plan to look after it for a long while, so it's probably a better spend of my money
@samthemadman5000
@samthemadman5000 Жыл бұрын
@Kieran Martin yeah they go from 2k to 4k usually, maybe 5k for the higher spec... I always thought it was quite a unique car and they've kept decent value if you own one obviously... I have a couple of cars but I'm thinking of getting rid of my Clio for something more unique, but has to stay French lol
@hughrobinson9978
@hughrobinson9978 Жыл бұрын
James, you asked "do you know anyone with a Levante?" Er, yes - we have a Levante V6S GL and are really happy with it. It's been reliable, feels really solidly built and rides and handles well. Bit of a giggle when screaming in sport mode, too. The Diesel is very laggy and probably wasn't the greatest way to introduce the model. I think this may be the nub of the matter - the Levante is really specification sensitive. The exterior looks great in darker colors, lardy in white. Needs the 21 or 22" wheels too. Very different proportions to other SUVs with its long bonnet/set back cabin. Interior can be boring in black and look very Italian in the contrast colors, especially with the Zegna silk option we have. The HMI is familiar from our old Grand Cherokee (and very easy to use), as are the window controls. Engine-wise, the Diesel is reputed to be very laggy and probably wasn't the greatest way to introduce the model. The base V6 is not that quick, but the 430hp S can really go when given the beans and sounds great doing it. The ZF box is great. Not tried a Trofeo. Fuel economy, meh. Dealers are at least an hour away. We bought used at a couple of years old - an absolutely full spec car with optional and expensive paint color - beautiful paint quality btw. New it was 109,000 and we picked it up for half that with warranty, etc. Against a Cayenne of the same vintage it was good value and is much more "special" to own, if not as perfect. I have been lucky enough to have had many Porsches and respect the Cayenne, but they are everywhere. It's like you said - a bit of a left field choice, but one that we are still happy with. Hope this gives you an owner's perspective on the Levante. You are welcome to try ours and make your own mind up...
@RearWheelZeal
@RearWheelZeal Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you're happy with your Maser. The Levante strikes me as the most spirited of it's sports-luxo SUV bracket.
@chevyblock550
@chevyblock550 16 күн бұрын
The Grand Sport line of Maserati to me just screams banker doing well for himself that never quite gave up on his childhood dream of racing F1 but wants to blend in with the shareholders' Mercedes and Jags. Kind of a niche that's hard to hit but incredibly wild, one of a kind cars.
@bjornromermann5080
@bjornromermann5080 Жыл бұрын
Always was wondering, if I should pull the Trigger for one of these. But the image of expensive and often broken put me off. Can you maybe also Test the Quattroporte of this Generartion? As far as I know you "only" tested your private one. Thanks anyways for all these cool Videos! Keep rocking!
@SatanDotExe
@SatanDotExe Жыл бұрын
Loved the Joe cameo!
@os3990
@os3990 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a review on the trofero - haven't seen any content on that car!
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
I asked, but Maserati UK don't really like to respond
@cylac12
@cylac12 Жыл бұрын
never ceases to amaze me, the chavs who think having a load exhaust sounds the same as proper v6+ engine. One is an annoying racket of noise, the other is a thrum that makes you think "ooooh"
@AaronRandolphChen
@AaronRandolphChen Жыл бұрын
LOL! I loved that surprise appearance by Joe Achilles. That was very clever!
@truebluemiata
@truebluemiata Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you cover a Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst. We never got them here in the States, although a non-boosted version did. (Pontiac G8 IIRC)
@computerhelpcc
@computerhelpcc Жыл бұрын
back to back comparison drives with it and Lexus GSF 1.5 yrs ago resulted in GSF. Oh, that V8 and rear torque vectoring diff (gears not bs brakes) just made the gorgeous Maserati not enough. GREAT SOUND Jay in this video.
@markziff7234
@markziff7234 Жыл бұрын
At least people don't cringe when they see the front end unlike the current BMW front!
@badgersalesman5595
@badgersalesman5595 Жыл бұрын
The only wow factor it has WOW ! It’s working
@timhancock6626
@timhancock6626 Жыл бұрын
Mrs Car Wizard has a Levante. Both she and CW love it.
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek 3 ай бұрын
Very Illuminating!!!!
@aljack1979
@aljack1979 Жыл бұрын
A mate had one, electrical issues galour... It would cut out and go into limp mode when pulling away from junctions. He got rid and bought a panamera.
@-ZIO
@-ZIO Жыл бұрын
Oh Jay. Awesome video! (but that shirt)
@Pietervdv
@Pietervdv Жыл бұрын
I always loved the shape of it and would love to own a Maserati one day, but in my view, if you're going to ignore sensible advice, why not go all the way and get a Quattroporte of the previous shape and with the ZF auto box instead? Certainly you'd get the impression of driving something more exclusive when you're inside the car and those things matter when choosing a Maserati, don't they?
@richardsmith9509
@richardsmith9509 Жыл бұрын
Hello James: whats with the chicken wing flapping with your arms when you are driving? It looks hilarious !!!!!
@bnb0510
@bnb0510 4 ай бұрын
Have a 2022 Ghibli and I LOVE IT!
@maksymbykov
@maksymbykov 8 ай бұрын
Great review from deletant!
@wpjohn91
@wpjohn91 Жыл бұрын
A big diesel salloon just as diesels went out of fashion. If this was released in 2004 it would of been a game changer
@stuartpeacock8257
@stuartpeacock8257 Жыл бұрын
You’ve just confirmed my suspicions,sadly as a Maser has nylon my bucket list for some time. Brilliant appraisal
@ReeceT20
@ReeceT20 Жыл бұрын
The Joe Achilles cameo was brilliant
@JBsC6
@JBsC6 Жыл бұрын
Very very vet popular lease vehicle here in the States. This is beautiful exotic sedan yet I prefer and recommend Alfa Romeo over the Maserati. The Maseratis cool but I think a bit large for me although a three warranty would on a preowned example might tempt me like your friend Albert.
@GLAXxan
@GLAXxan Жыл бұрын
I am seriously considering the 6th gen quattroporte. I would love for you to have a look voice your opinion on it James :)
@DopravniPoradce
@DopravniPoradce Жыл бұрын
I once drove a Quattroporte, the previous generation. It still has a special place in my memory. It felt like a small hot hatch, nimble and fast in a way you wouldn't deem possible for car of that size. I drove Panamera few days after that and it felt like a whale on the beach. Unresponsive, dull, boring, uninspired, unimaginative, heavy lump of crap.
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 Жыл бұрын
Makes the LC500 look liek fantastic value for money.
@RearWheelZeal
@RearWheelZeal Жыл бұрын
Don't need a Maserati to do that. LC500 is among the most underappreciated current models by far.
@edisonyoung4693
@edisonyoung4693 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a fan of this car but appreciate the balanced and objective journalism.
@keithshayle7027
@keithshayle7027 Жыл бұрын
I had a Ghibli Diesel for seven years, I bought it new and ordered it to a high spec. Great car and very reliable, although you do need to spec it with the fully upgraded interior -full Protana frau leather, then it feels like the luxury car it is!
@Mike7O7O
@Mike7O7O Жыл бұрын
with a Massey Ferguson soundtrack?
@keithshayle7027
@keithshayle7027 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike7O7O actually no, it was pretty quiet once marked up, and there was an, albeit electronically enhanced to sound like a Ferrari V8 in sports mode.
@hhharada
@hhharada Жыл бұрын
Hey JM! This is one of your best reviews. You seem to easily find the perfect words to describe how cars relate to people especially their owners. My sincere admiration
@lordbrennanofsealand5772
@lordbrennanofsealand5772 Жыл бұрын
The interior layout is very similar at it’s hard points to the chrysler 300 as are the over all dimensions. Makes me wonder if it’s not a clever reskin.
@phoenixcortes7097
@phoenixcortes7097 Жыл бұрын
You see much more Levantes in the states. Funny cause out of the lineup its the one that’s actually a good all rounder.
@cwang6951
@cwang6951 Жыл бұрын
That special 'feeling' is one of knowing you're driving around a car that isn't the logical choice - not as good, not as reliable and much more importantly - more expensive...because you can afford it! The pride of paying overs and chuckling because you don't care.
@targaflorio3239
@targaflorio3239 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic balanced and fair review. The likes of Doug de Muro helped kill the model. Driven a few but never pulled the trigger - mainly because IMO, the Ghibli should have had the Alfa Giulia V6. Terrific noise though and a great buy used.
@miskatonic6210
@miskatonic6210 Жыл бұрын
Internet douchebags don't kill cars. 90% of potential owners don't care for or even know reviews from social media "experts".
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 Жыл бұрын
Maserati has been ruining their own reputation since before Doug was born.
@askiff1415
@askiff1415 Жыл бұрын
Doug has become a caricature of himself these days - he is just painful to listen too and watch
@francispowell1811
@francispowell1811 Жыл бұрын
I think the opposite. The Giulia should have included this V6 as an option, between the L4 and the QV.
@planestrainsdogsncars4336
@planestrainsdogsncars4336 Жыл бұрын
Italian Chrysler 300...nuff said.
@Muhluri
@Muhluri Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen 2 Levantes in my area: a white one and a blue one (South Africa)
@andyhunt457
@andyhunt457 Жыл бұрын
That interior is soo not when your sat in it with that shirt James.Its fabulous by the way..
@simonelliott5956
@simonelliott5956 Жыл бұрын
I’ve loved Masers since I was a kid in the 70’s and this is still a very pretty car, that I’ve looked at a few times, but it just isn’t special enough for me to have gone for one. Especially now that I know the average consumption is similar to my RS6! Scary!
@adams6537
@adams6537 Жыл бұрын
Please try to drive a Trofeo I'm sure a maserati dealer in your area will allow you to do a review it will change your mind. I've owned a 2015 SQ4, a 2018 Grandsport s, and now a 2021 Trofeo, the Ferrari F154 engine and more updated interior completely transformed the car, very powerful, very reliable dally driver and more entertaining than my M3, thanks for your great reviews and love and passion of cars.
@davidperry4013
@davidperry4013 6 ай бұрын
Though Maseratis are not perfect, I still want one because the engine sounds amazing, the performance, exterior and interior looks so beautiful, and that the seats are so comfortable. I’m okay with the fact that it requires Liqui Moli oil and premium gas.
@juanbugatti490
@juanbugatti490 Жыл бұрын
These are still beautiful cars, but I think they should have replaced it whit a new generation based on the awesome Giorgio platform after the Giulia was introduced.
@mdog2501
@mdog2501 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think you could get the SQ4 in right hand drive. Something to do with the steering column gets in the way of a drive shaft or something similar.
@jacekmarczyk4436
@jacekmarczyk4436 Жыл бұрын
Mine is flawless, nothing ever broke, not even a fuse. A glorious machine. Much more reliable than all the BMWs I have owned for 30 years.
@GryphLane
@GryphLane Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agreed. There is nothing interesting in an M3. But there is about the Ghibli.
@johnmitchell2269
@johnmitchell2269 Жыл бұрын
You can't compare those two cars. Think about the driving dynamics of both. A Ghibli is for driving to the golf club and then driving to a museum. An M3 is a proper drivers car.
@chrisj5978
@chrisj5978 Жыл бұрын
Surely an E46 is interesting if the sub frame might fall off at any moment?
@GryphLane
@GryphLane Жыл бұрын
@@johnmitchell2269But it's dull. As are the people that drive them...
@johnmitchell2269
@johnmitchell2269 Жыл бұрын
@@GryphLane Yes, if you drive fast cars at 20mph under the speed limit, of course they will be dull. Fast cars were not built to be driven like a milk float.
@johnguidetti5839
@johnguidetti5839 Жыл бұрын
@@GryphLane You drive a Ford Mondeo but you got so much to say about other people getting excited. Maybe concentrate on getting a better car first.
@arjandeboer651
@arjandeboer651 6 ай бұрын
I have a 2014 Quattroporte S. no issues whatsoever and hands down the prettiest sports limousine ever built.
@raygun101
@raygun101 Жыл бұрын
The interior has an Audi texture'n colour quality to it.....I had flashbacks of my 2011 A4 when watching shots of the interior.....the leather/plastic, the grey........
@gordtulk
@gordtulk Жыл бұрын
Seriously considered this when they came out. Laughably over-priced in NA where there were almost no dealers, little market presence and the cloud of awful Italian reliability of years past. Bought a 300C Hemi AWD instead - far less $$ and put 380k Kms on it. Marchione made such a mess of FCA…
@RearWheelZeal
@RearWheelZeal Жыл бұрын
The Ghibli has fantastic road presence and it seems most of it's foibles are generally forgivable. A shame Maserati failed to imbue the Ghibli's interior with the bespoke flare an Italian marque is expected to deliver in this class. Particularly a marque which on some level must share shelving space with Alfa Romeo.
@jimmyfarley5581
@jimmyfarley5581 Жыл бұрын
I still wait for your review of the Vantage V600 (up until 2000). Visually my favourite car of all time. Come on people. Someone must have a V600 for James to review.
@henkmueller2550
@henkmueller2550 Жыл бұрын
you were enthousiatic about the quattroporte and a bit by the ghibli, i live in holland where new cars that cost 45000 in UK cost 100.000 bpounds here (Defender) f.i. 4porte and ghibli cost 140 to 180000 pound but for 35.000 you buy one from 2015 with great dealer coverage. Diesel is punished, you pay 2200 pound roadtax. So petrol, what would u recommend 4porte or Ghibli?
@FREEDOM-FIGHTER-ONE
@FREEDOM-FIGHTER-ONE Жыл бұрын
Yes. However, I want one of these!
@ThatCaymanGuy
@ThatCaymanGuy Жыл бұрын
it definitely has some growl. I've always been curious of Maserati . i see tons of them in Orange County.
@allareasindex7984
@allareasindex7984 Жыл бұрын
A friend did well in a real estate project and bought himself a Quattroporte. Two years later the leather interior shrunk and pulled away from its backing. Maserati US refused any responsibility, didn’t even offer to pay 50%. The bill came to $17,000 with no assurance that it wouldn’t do the same thing again.
@davidvivian596
@davidvivian596 Жыл бұрын
Thanks JayEmm, for this video, which I thoroughly enjoyed. Although way out of my league financially, I have always been fascinated by this car. Mainly, it's eye and ear appeal and as a former Lancia owner, I have a soft spot for Italian cars. I think your video summed up the enigma which is this car, succinctly.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
Thanks David
@andrewholt3849
@andrewholt3849 Жыл бұрын
What a shame: my comment was auto deleted as I included a link to the Ferrari V8 bi-turbo Maserati MC Editions from 03.02.2022 Levante; Quattroporte and Ghibli with triple layer Blu Vittoria (matte) or Giallo Corse (yellow):
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
@@andrewholt3849 YT does not like links in comments
@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084
@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084 Жыл бұрын
I can’t tell You how much I wanted the Ghibli to be Wonderful and How Disappointed I Was When It Wasn’t!!!!
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