Massdrop Ether CX _(Z Reviews)_ Damn..

[@jeanpierresnyman652]

Massdrop: Which do you like best, the original Ethers or our Massdrop version? Zeos: yes

[@ZReviews]

I concur with that statement

[@bobcoco6047]

Trivago

[@obeliskt1024]

I think we can derive from the whole vid that Z likes the massdrop version as he's planning to tune his og similar to it.

[@LotusBoi1989]

Never before has Z said so many words, without actually saying much.

[@ZReviews]

Lies.. I can talk infinitely about nothing forever.

[@LotusBoi1989]

@@ZReviews I don't think it's ever been this rambly before. At least when there's a blue LED you have something to focus on.

[@LotusBoi1989]

Either that, or you at least make weird noises that both concern and excite me in ways I don't fully understand.

[@ZReviews]

Because I don't want to admit a headphone that costs half as much as my BABIES is as good

[@dragonblood0012]

@@ZReviews that seems to be massdrops mo at this point. "oh you like this thing you payed a ton of money for? here have it even better for less!"

[@arthurhaywood2184]

I've been living with my Ether CX for over 4 months now Y agree with everything you've said! My favorite configuration is with the black felt pads. They warm up the sound a bit, keep the bass & upper frequencies. I found your configuration to rob too much air from the upper frequencies. What has surprised me the most is that they have continued to get better with time. I'm now approaching ~350 hours & in the last 30, what I thought was their only weak area for me (dynamics) has improved considerably.

[@bongofury3176]

Thanks for saving me $100 Z. I am loving these cans. So much detail and space. My end game closed backs for sure.

[@xSHiN61x]

I have the AFC and Ether CX right now and really appreciate the changes on the Ether CX and am probably keeping them instead of the AFC. what kinda is a bummer is that my pair too has optic flaws if I may say so. gonna ask MrSpeakers if that is ok or qc just didnt pick it up before shipping.

[@jameslee123]

My first Ether CX had seriously mismatched cups and fine scratches on one side and Massdrop happily exchanged it for another pair which also had mismatched cups and fine scratches, but they were lighter than the first one. I polished the cups with some car polish and that mostly took care of the scratches and I can live with mismatched grain pattern. It seems like they may have lowered their cosmetic standards to hit this price point because they certainly don't seem to have skimped when it comes to sound (I love them!)

[@xSHiN61x]

@@jameslee123 I had luck with mine then because they look like little dents or small bubbles and only two I can't feel it and see it only when turned to light. and on the bottom there is like a 3mm line with more material or something u can feel but again not really visible. and of course I don't want to wait a month for its arrival again and dumb questions at German customs.

[@devolutionary]

Have no issues with mine but it wasn't their earliest batch. And the long audio burn-in actually helped with some music. The DUMMER cable feels a little janky but it does the job. Already bought some Periapts but wish MrSpeakers had provided their premium cables with the purchase.

[@dandevvers]

I bought these ages ago but I haven’t had the chance to hear them yet (I live away from home due to work). I’ve been looking for reviews all over the place and when I saw you did one on Patreon, I finally bit the bullet and joined (you’ll probably release it tomorrow 😆). I’m glad you liked them because I’ve liked other things recommended and as you say, $900 (£690) plus the £170 I paid in import taxes is a fuck-ton of cash! Cheers for the reviews 👍

[@ZReviews]

You got 6 days. Thanks and enjoy your patronage!

[@happycamperjack]

What I found this headset to be really really good at doing, is movies. I hook mine up with a gsx-1000 (HRTF 7.1) and a sp200. And dammmn! Gsx1000 expanded the virtual sound stage just enough to create a really great (still a bit too intimate) THX theater experiences. Was watching Tenet with this headphone and my setup on my CX TV and GT throne gaming chair (3 small subwoofers in chair) it’s probably first time in my life that I found the near perfect setup for movies with headphone.

[@thiscorrosion900]

Apropos of nothing, I made myself a pair of speaker stands for my tiny Alesis powered monitors for my desktop, using two Home Depot finished plinths, some glue, and adhesive bumpers. Perfect size and they elevated the speakers a good 5 inches off the desk. Was proud of meself.

[@beangate]

Watching this video was a mistake... I've just been sitting here for an hour looking at the Massdrop listing....

[@mikkol79]

Beans same here

[@hal1227]

Did you end buying them? :-) if so, what do you think? also looking into them at the moment...

[@WookieWoolie]

Now $700 on Massdrop. Wishing I had some spare cash.

[@Krankynator]

I got them for that much, and lemme tell you, I would've gladly paid twice as much for them.

[@ahmadaleisa4571]

@@Krankynator are they that good? should i sell my mint condition Alpha Dog?

[@Krankynator]

@@ahmadaleisa4571 I'd consider them good enough to spend $1400 on them, but I don't have any other headphones that cost that much, so I don't really know how they'd compete with other closed-backs in that price range. But Zeos said he can't really tell the difference between his $1600 Ether C Flows and the Ether CX's, so there's that. I am intending to get a pair of Audeze LCD-XC's soon, which I'll then compare to the Ether CX's. I've never listened to Alpha Dogs, so I don't know how good they are. As for selling them, I'd wait for a while, because they'll probably become a collector's item and skyrocket in value in a few years.

[@ahmadaleisa4571]

@@Krankynator yeah that's why i want to keep alpha dog Rare ASF, Have you tried The CX for gaming?

[@TheCangle]

I just bought these because I was scared that the price would go back to 900 soon. Sorry Mr. Wallet

[@bongofury3176]

Mine are in the post. Getting excited. To be honest I'll buy anything covered in carbon fibre.

[@welshscott7833]

I got these on the first massdrop offering. I use these at work with a pro-ject carbon debut, fed into a schiit mani that feeds into an aune s7. I also have the 6xx and the ethers have a similar sound, but with a warmer, punchier bass and calmer trebel.

[@devolutionary]

Yeah the recommended burn-in actually appears to help... And I'm a skeptic. But you really benefit from high quality, well recorded sources. Quite revealing for a planar.

[@Daniel-mi4er]

Currently deciding between Eikon vs Ether CX vs Aeon Flow Closed as a portable set

[@GoriIIaTactics]

Daniel that's a very liberal use of the word "portable." In any case, I've heard pretty terrible things about the flow closed. The eikon looks pretty dumb out in public because they're so horizontally massive, so the ether c flow is prob the best for you

[@devolutionary]

Hi end portable, wow! I own the Ether CX and would feel iffy walking downtown with them on. Based on drawing unneeded attention. Comfortable as heck though.

[@RathOX]

Gonna also look at those Neumann's in the sound demo. How do they compare?

[@engelweh]

How do the CXs compare with the Sendy Aiva?

[@ZReviews]

Sendy are so much more up in your face about how they sound. These take some listening and High Quality music to fall in love.

[@obeliskt1024]

I'd buy one. IF I HAVE THE MONEY!

[@MultipleInterface]

Great review here. The tuning pads are great! They headphones are very comfortable and I wear them way more than any of my other headphones now. They are easily driven and sound good from a Dragonfly Red. They don't come with a case but there's a cheap one on Amazon from Slappa that works great. They go in my backpack every day for work and I pull them out during lunch. Also I can crank them with my wife in bed next to me and they don't leak hardly any sound. The cups are gorgeous and the build quality is great. They're comfortable and great to listen to. They lack some bass even at the warmest tuning but for everything other than EDM, they sound good. Really love these headphones, nothing in a closed back sounds as open and airy. These and Fostex TR-X00 and that's all the closed you'd ever need.

[@jr6786]

Love my ether cx. I like mrspeakers as a company even more!

[@TraceLight]

I wonder how these compare to the Audeze LCD2 closed back. I’ve heard they are the “closed back focal clear/ Elex killer”

[@ajafterparty]

Totally different, the audezes are for extreme aural pleasure, and ethers feel more accurate and more suited as a reference headphone. Comfort goes to the ethers... but sound in my opinion goes to audeze. I have both... you should get both too ;)

[@Dia1Up]

To clarify what Z meant at the beginning.... The CX dont have the wave guides like the Flows do. And mine aren't cloudy at all, not sure what happened with yours Zeos. I have never heard any other truely high-end cans, but if I were to combine the detail of the T50RPs, and the fun relaxing smooth warmth of my He-4xx.... Then upscale it to the highest degree, you get the Ether CXs

[@johnyang799]

Wut? relaxing smooth warmth of he4xx?

[@mattrismatt]

@@johnyang799 Yes. People hearing too much treble from the 4XX are either not powering them correctly (most likely), confusing fast treble with being 'bright', or are used to super-bass-heavy headphones (which the 4XX is not).

[@johnyang799]

@@mattrismatt No. They have elevated response at 8-10k. 400s is much better in this regard.

[@johnyang799]

@@mattrismatt I do measurements of headphones earphones , dacs, amplifiers. 4xx and 400i are obviously has something wrong with treble.

[@mattrismatt]

@@johnyang799 A headphone with an "elevated response" in the middle-treble region doesn't mean that a headphone will sound 'bright' or that there is "something wrong" with its treble. The 4XX's elevation in that region is only a few dB above the response at 1k. What headphones do you know of that don't have emphasis - or a peak - in that region? Less emphasis doesn't always mean "better", especially in certain cases and for certain types of music. To produce its intended sound, the 4XX simply requires much more power than the most users are supplying. With insufficient power, the resulting sound will lack in bass*. Many people call that 'bright' or 'thin', but the 4XX actually has a recessed low-treble (5-6k), a region in which can cause sibilance. When powered correctly, yes, I would call the 4XX 'smooth and warm' - not bassy or bright. * especially considering that most people are comparing them to mainstream closed-back headphones from Beats, Bose, Sony, Skullcandy, etc.

[@colt45lmer]

Yo Z it got nastey so i just ripped off the felt that comes glued into these and my god they open up and their is way more bass its kinda incredible

[@Olaipai]

Currently owning DT-1990 and loving them. Considering these. But also eyeballing the Focal Elex. Man, there are so many options! I'm open for anything! Halp plz

[@MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING]

If I make a headphone that's how all my cable's will comes with a balance 4pin or duel 3pin XLR take your pick and adapter to 3.5mm to 6.35mm no screw on just a regular one for both cables depends on your pick on connection

[@darrellross8609]

Z, M60x, $200 are very comfortable, detailed and sweet bass. P.S. I got my THX portable; life is good. Best, D.

[@mikeinglett3994]

Z, I know you reviewed and did some cup and pad rolling with the Fostex Th900 mk2 blue sapphire headphones. Which I have also. How do they compare to these Ether CX?

[@filovirus1]

Ether CX or BeyerDynamic DT 177x Go?

[@st0neageman]

depends, Ether CX is first of all at a different price range... but if you only care about sound, I think the Ether CX is fantastic. I describe the sound as being in the studio with the artist rather than the typical more of listening to speakers. DT177x is bass monster.

[@stewarthsu1794]

Already have Audio Technica ATH-W5000 which I'm happy with being closed back. My brother has the HD800s+HDVD800+balanced cables and that setup is by far the best I've heard. Gives me goose bumps when I listen to them. Debating on getting the HD800s, SR-L700, or the Ether CX. Which one should I go with for that "goose bump" type of euphoric experience assuming they are powered by suitable amps?

[@gcb2101]

You are comparing apples to oranges. Those are all open HP's.

[@johnyang799]

l700 probably, hd800s is good too.

[@stewarthsu1794]

Except for the Ether CX.

[@zackw4941]

I have LCD2c and like them. I heard the LCD2 closed back at Canjam and thought that they were very similar and liked them, too. I also, do not seem to care for the XC.

[@nazar-pc]

Bought these. Sounds good, thanks! 2 notches a bit too heavy base for me, just heavy, not sure why, but hard to listen. Went with 1 and thin foam. Would prefer thicker earpads though.

[@casualmime2792]

Dekoni DT series and ZMF universal pads are both deeper replacements that fit easily

[@nazar-pc]

Had to replace pads with 30mm thick ones (tried Brainwavez angled, doesn't work well) and put foam circle on the perimeter inside such that fabric when stretch doesn't reduce space for ears. Pretty comfortable for me now. Also removed all of the dampening, new construction brings base up a bit and it doesn't cut highs. I'm satisfied!

[@HobbyTalk]

This or the Noire?

[@tooitchy]

Things are easy when things like the ethers are $1800, or even $1600. It's a very easy decision, I don't have to even think about it, it's an easy no. No, I am not spending 2 grand on headphones, see, it's not hard at all, but when $2000 (or in this case $1600) headphones drop below $1000, things become very, very difficult. I don't like difficult, I don't want to spend a thousand dollars on one pair of headphones, and I don't even consider it every day of my life, I see the price of $1000 and I find something else to consider buying..... But when they're 1600$ cans, for a thousand, it's something I am forced to really think about, and all I'm asking now is, how much do I have to spend on audio shit before I'm allowed to buy $1000 headphones.....

[@tracehazarrrrd]

Z was classic in the day, what a time trip. DCA loves power and EQ.

[@thiscorrosion900]

hrmm, if I had a grand or so to blow, I'd probably go for the upper-end dynamic Fostex action. But if I needed more portable planars, I might go for these instead.

[@jussimattsen4583]

But daddy Z, I don't wanna spend any more money on audio equipment this month.

[@ZReviews]

Fine. Wait for the Neumanns and buy those or RB42's next month.

[@jussimattsen4583]

@@ZReviews ... okay. Nothing but noodles for another month.

[@michaelcheshareck3275]

The Ether C Flow 1.1 compared to the C Flow has different dampening to smooth the bass. It also has angle pads, which half way into last year went to a firmer foam for improved bass. So Zeos should buy the 1.1 upgrade and the newer angle pads. I’m guessing the flat pads from the CX don’t give the best sound quality from the flows since that isn’t what Mr. Speakers puts on them. I ended up buying the C Flow 1.1 a couple months ago when the CX were sold out, and wish I had the chance to compare them before buying. I got the Flows for $1499 new, which is a hell of a lot more money than $900, and I doubt that I got $600 worth of better sound than the CX, but I am very happy with my purchase.

[@markcurry5758]

We're you able to get the Dekoni pads on the headphones?

[@MasterMark5]

So I got a chance to audition the LCD-xc's and I agree they are too heavy for normal listening but how do they compare to the ethers? I have been eyeing the ethers up but I dont think I'll have a chance to audition them anywhere around me.

[@dinfreitas]

A had an experience with the Pioneer SE monitor 5. They are my new benchmark.

[@ralentinovossi8081]

I'm really confused about MrSpeakers' lineup, how many different Ether C's are there?

[@MananaMan]

okay so either the lcd 2 closed back, the campfire cascade, or the ether cx?

[@rocksellar420]

Is the cloudy carbon side the same side that faces the window, most carbon fiber doesn’t do that great if it’s always in the sun

[@Hoodie_healer]

I'm a Super Serial Gamer where footsteps are GOD with a little light music listening on the side. Currently Evaluating the following cans: Mass Drop Ether CX Sennheiser 660s BD 1990 Audeze LCD-GX -Not Yet Released- Vokal Erupt -Missed the Crowdfund- Leaning towards the Ether CX due to the ability to tune them easily so I can get the murderous treble when needed and then tune for bass when I want to listen to music.

[@BeraEngMec297]

Brandon Nicholson Super serial gamer? Go for HD800.

[@MetalsForBrunch]

I just got these for 700 on massdrop. I own focal elex and elegia, he4xx. I'll be the judge of this since I hear mediocre reviews about this headphone. I'll make sure to burn in 150hrs to give it a fair rating with no expectations.

[@arthurhaywood2184]

Double that burn-in time before making any serious assessment. Trust me...…..

[@jfort947]

Great review as always Zeos. Now im interested in these, but i really want to get an open-back for my next pair. What do you think about the Hifiman Ananda? And maybe how it compares to LCD-2 Classic?

[@kristoffer8740]

Why have you not upgrade your Ether C Flow to the new 1.1 version by upgrade to the new angle pads, and the new tunning kit?

[@rolandlemus203]

MR Z, Neumann NDH-20 closed? or these ether CX??? for studio mixing mainly, I am about to press the buy on the Neumann's....thanks for your help!

[@cloggedpitot1]

He recommends the Nuemanns. He has a video out on them. I just picked up the CXs and find them really really nice. One note, he comments that the neumanns are are uncomfortable after an hour of listening. The CXs are incredibly comfortable.

[@dalejail]

anyone one know whats the best portable replacement cable for these?

[@Marcalitus]

Atticius and Eikons comparisons though?

[@ZReviews]

well for the weight savings on your head these would be way more comfortable on long sessions. Sound I would have to sit with atticus a long time to make that decision. Those sounded intense.

[@PappLacc]

I actually considering them Zeos. I would like if you could review the Focal Elegia, witch is around the same price, and i could buy a used pair now, but i'm hesitating. One question: is this a big upgrade over the T20rp mk3 (witch i also own)? I mean really noticeable upgrade, not just that "if you listen close enough, you can hear the difference" upgrade?

[@androvich20]

It should be a massive upgrade LMAO. The t20 are in the fashion category list

[@karbonkevin919]

do these have good soundstage for close back? I was thinking these or the bang and Olufsen h95.

[@danielgriffiths981]

considering these vs hd800s - looking for next step up from 6xx run through tubes. which would you go with? thx

[@vagrantberserker8147]

Would you say there's no point to picking up the DT177x if you already have the CX, or is there a party trick that the Beyer excels at over the CX that makes it worthwhile?

[@ZReviews]

CX are superior to the 177x. Then the Neumanns come into play [amzn.to/2LtSCOB] and people will be yelling at me about the CX

[@vagrantberserker8147]

@@ZReviews Damn. Saving me from a $380 purchase only to be tempted by a $500 one... Since I gave my friend my SRH940 a while back I was debating on whether to get another one or get something else with a studio monitor signature, hence being tempted by the DT177X. Guess I'm gonna have to go to e-earphone this week to check out the Neumanns, but I"m only gonna listen...for now...I hope...

[@damianmb5]

Z Reviews how much superior?

[@mikkol79]

Closed back heaven - these or the Campfire Audio Cascade?

[@sirshin9747]

I’m thinking of buying the monolith m560 but should I get it refurbished or new? Refurbishment is roughly 40 dollars cheaper, is it worth it?

[@KaizerPalpatine]

mine press a bit harder in front of my ear (face side) which feels like I don't have a seal on back of my ears. does anyone else have the same issue? or do I have to wear them a bit more for the pads to take Form?

[@KaizerPalpatine]

@Dimitris Kantsioulis yes why the question 😅

[@KaizerPalpatine]

@Dimitris Kantsioulis will answer that when I get the chance in a few hours

[@KaizerPalpatine]

@Dimitris Kantsioulis sry for being so late. I can power them on my phone but would not recommend it tbh as my op3 can't deliver enough power and the dac is crap. as for sound leak, I do listen to my HP very loudly especially the ether cx needs a bit more volume to deliver its top notch performance and someone sitting next to you can hear your music though not very loud. if you want something for portable use with good sound I'd rec the denon d5200 they are really awesome sounding and half the price. or even cheaper where you won't have to worry much about damage beyerdynamic custom studio or status audio cb-1.

[@mjjm6220]

So, I am watching this again, Nov. 2020, as I wear my T5 3rd gen. I dont know how the soundstage of T5p is, but the soundstage of the T5 is more, compared to other closed backs I've auditioned or owned. I highly doubt the soundstage of the Ether CX would be better, and both in the same price range. And for people who might have a problem with Beyerdynamic dropping the T5 impedance from 250 down to 32, no problem. On my THX AAA788, I set the VC @ -26 +/- for my DT 1990 Pro. For the T5, usually @ -30.5 +/- : so not a huge difference...yeah you can connect the T5 to an iPhone/iPad, BUT the SQ is so much better connected to a hp amp.

[@on_spikes6867]

Do you have a new wallpaper every day or do you change them for the videos?

[@rickg8015]

Do they sound as “open” in the mids as the CA Cascades but without the bass hump?

[@chrisdotson4697]

Zeos... Are you sure that seashell noise ain't tinnitus?

[@muakira2645]

Z I picked these up on sale for 799 😁. I love them but I feel like my Modi 3 / Magni stack can't drive them properly. Any suggestions on a DAC/Amp combo for music?

[@evoasus2286]

Geshelli Labs Erish would probably work as an amp. I think it is a great option if you live in the USA. You would need a balanced DAC though.

[@67168]

Bought some of these ! Shipping soon !

[@xaxa7862]

tell me how they stand now when you get them im really worrying about which headphone i should get

[@jeho369]

@@xaxa7862 I recently bought them too I’ll update you when I get them!

[@xaxa7862]

yay

[@jeho369]

@@xaxa7862 What other headphones were you interested in?

[@xaxa7862]

@@jeho369 i am very interested in aeon 2s, audeze lcd2c, and sennheiser 660s

[@c_o_l_m]

These or the Ether^2? I loved the Æon C's I had.

[@joeterrell1776]

Z - was just about to checkout my amazon cart with the ethers and then i started this....Z if you had the opportunity to do it over again, would you still buy the ethers if the massdrops were available?

[@potion7410]

can anyone confirm 100% which pads work on the CX?

[@bryanedward5355]

I got an $82 handmade open back cans with 50mm graphene drivers, I would love u to review them but I dont live in the US....

[@benbraceletspurple9108]

Graphene is waisted on dynamic. I'd like to see stax use graphene in place of mylar.

[@ajafterparty]

I’ll review them for you ;)

[@danrdey]

These or M1060cs open for gaming ant detail in music ?

[@Microwave414]

The thing that gets me about these headphones is and I guess the flows are likely the same. They're great and I mean truly great at binaural audio playback and virtual surround sound. Is paying $900 for a headphone to game on stupid? Maybe a little bit but you know, last I checked the audeze gx is not closed back.... I swear dan clark made a closed back gaming headphones but was too embarrassed to admit it and let drop sell it so he can make it an excuse that it was their tuning or something.

[@Cheese-n-Cake16]

Hey Zeos, you did not compare this to the other sub 1000 dollar headphone the Aeons. Now, personally I prefer the AFC over the Ether CX because I use the WA7 and the Aeon sound damn near identical to the Ethers but with ever so slightly reduced highs and the AFCs are more comfortable because of my gigantic ears

[@ACM1000000PT]

Yeah the small driver sound similar than bigger one..

[@Brunomills]

How do these compare to the Sony z1r and HD820? I want to get something new in the next 2 days. Zeos! I would appreciate your feedback and option. I've not touched my P9 after your review :( and it's up for sale.

[@4bdull784]

What did you get?

[@jsharp9735]

Anyone know if Mr Speaker is going to do a massdrop aeon flow open/closed ?

[@quentengarcia4391]

Zeos I need your expertise! Do I get the Ether CX or the Sendy Aiva? These are going to be my first pair over 500 and I need guidance!

[@buster7618]

haha... I have the Sendy Aivas and am still obsessed with them after having them for a couple months. I have always wanted the ether c flow because I want a neutral, comfortable set of headphones. I think they would be a really good compliment to the aivas and will probably order a pair of the cx. aivas - more aggressive, smaller sound stage, intimate with very good detail, excellent bass, mids a tad recessed. Intense without being fatiguing. Fun. Very comfortable. The cx should be more neutral, less bass but enough, good detail, fast, larger soundstage. Open sounding for closed back. Very comfortable. The ether flow and ether c flow have wildly different opinions, polarized. Some like one or the other, others find them dampened sounding, others are obsessed. The aivas have been pretty universally praised. If this is your entrance into to high end headphones, either one of these and you are going to be mesmerized. Keep in mind, if you get the cx you will want an amp with some beef to it.

[@SDubovsky]

11:37 Echoplex intro, that is supposed to be kicking. Damn! It is kicking about as much as the embedded speaker in my monitor. AirPods have more low frequencies than CX'es. I guess, that would be my last "blind" purchase. First was Focal Elegia - weak bass. Returned. Now CX. Same deal. I tried on my old Denon DA-300USB - nothing. I tried on 789, DAC'ed by Parasound HINT6, Balanced - nothing. /Grrrr!

[@Druezy]

These just went on sale for $750 is that an instant buy?

[@MrSeifer159]

Nice cans :D @Zeos, ModHouse Argon Mk3 or Vokyl Erupt for gaming (Borderlands 3, Cyberpunk 2077, etc) ? ^^ Thanks in advance ! You're the reason I bought the HD58X and it sounds great. Will be even better when I'll get my new AMD pc build this year :) Then I'll defininitely need a powerful AMP/DAC for the Argon and my future headphones, maybe The Element from JDS Labs would be enough for a start. Have fun o/

[@dnalekaw4699]

I dont like my argons for gaming.

[@MrSeifer159]

@@dnalekaw4699 Oh :O What games have you tried them on ? Also what would you advise me to buy ? :D I want something with more bass than my HD58X but still good quality cans for around 400$. Vokyl Erupt seems about right and slo has a mic, I hope it's a quality mic :P It has 80 ohms impedance but I wonder what is the sensitivity.

[@dnalekaw4699]

@@MrSeifer159 If you like the midrange and treble of the 58x but want more bass, I'd say that the ZMF Classic is the way to go out of the headphones I've tried. You may like the Argons but I found the upper midrange to be dipped and a tizzy treble around 9k.

[@Minos25]

Great vid Z! Got a question, u and ur videos got me into caring about sound and quality. 2 years ago I bought the SMSL M3 and now I bought the Micca MB42X speakers but need help. How do I connect them? Zeos or anyone from the community please help.

[@colt45lmer]

hooooooooly fk i just got my pair of ether cx and they are truly AMAZING they are def more balanced than my xoo base cannons but everything is sooooo much crisper and with the right felt pad adjustments they still have plenty of bass. Def not as much overall rumble but the punch is awesome. Vocals are suuuuper and all the treble and other things are just so detailed and awesome. Seems they def pair well with my aune X1S and X7S. They block more sound than the X00S to even tough they have ZMF lambskin pads on them. These also so far have a more enjoyable sound signate than my audeze EL8 titaniums. The Titaniums are suuuuuuuper detailed and flat good for monitoring or mixing cans but not nearly as good for how most people like to listen to music.

[@Iukrative]

These, the Focal Elex or wait for the Vokyl Erupt?

[@Jonesocinco]

I want all 3. Hopefully the erupts are shipped soon cause I'm growing impatient.

[@ZReviews]

Throw the Neumann NDH20 in that mix. amzn.to/2LtSCOB

[@dougdabbs8155]

Z Reviews But if you wanted the most accurate headphone (or just what you think is better), would you pick the CX or Elex?!? I’m struggling...

[@KingEdgeHead]

Just curious which is better value the Ether CX or Focal Elex? What would the comparison be like?

[@RathOX]

Focal elex will example blow the HD 800 out the water & Is basically a HD 650 on roids. Vs the ether CX which us basically the ether C flows as close as can be but half the cost. The elex is open backed so wide Soundstage & i mean WIDE zeos literally nutted. Wont get huge Soundstage on the closed backed CX but the actual imagining is great. Personally im getting the elex first as they also ship with a balanced cable/SE & im going to reference it on my 789. Zeos also hinted at the neumann NDH20 which are only $500

[@akorus_master]

There is also the new Focal Elegia as high end closed back.

[@jownbey]

These vs sendy aiva and elex...?

[@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797]

I'd get Aiva for the looks

[@chansreviews]

Vs Focal Elex?

[@andreaszetterqvist4272]

You should try game in these, its epic fun!

[@jarodferkin2585]

I am considering anything under 1000 Elegia sendy aiva etc

[@Scuallion]

I consider buying these massdrop CX to enter planar game, i already own Massdrop Focal Elex. Do you thing it's worth it? I'm enjoying the Elex maybe the soundstage and imaging is better on planar...

[@ZReviews]

That is one hell of an enterance

[@soulless_society8132]

I was planning on getting the audeze lcd 2 why did this have to be made 😑

[@Brina_stubbs]

can I just buy the adapter

[@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson]

that adapter is like $15 on Amazon

[@gravity_assisted]

more like $30 on amazon, make sure you get 4pin xlr (there seem to be many more options for 3pin or 4pin mini)

[@ZReviews]

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[@hsyn_ali]

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[@BITVedanshAgarwal]

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[@MuhammadKharismawan]

Just 2minutes since released on me, comments are weeks old from patrons.

[@MasterMarslander]

Your C Flow babies have a sort of phaiser, right? That MrSpeaker "TrueFlow" thing-a-ma-bob? My understanding is the regular Ether Cs, and these CXs do not have TrueFlow, right? Do you find that makes any difference what so ever?

[@ZReviews]

The only way to know would be to get another pair of Ether C Flow and :"De Flow": them for a comparison. Since these have different tuning its hard to HEAR the benefit one to one.

[@leonidkim3708]

Finally. This is exactly what I said on Massdrop discussion under Either CX review. my review starts from ''' dont want to repeat the post........ My number is 0010. Regards, Kim

[@ACH1LLES_]

hey Z should I buy the sex stack or the monolith thx amp/dac for my dt1990 no need for balanced just good amp/dac

[@jsharp9735]

788 and your done.

[@ACH1LLES_]

@@jsharp9735 could you elaborate a bit more did you listen to both?

[@jsharp9735]

I have only heard the 788. I know you said you don't "need" balanced, but its there if you ever need to drive more demanding headphones. You have some EQ features and the DAC is great. Thats why I say, you would be done as far as DAC/AMP goes because it will drive anything you have now and in the future.

[@barneyrubble9309]

Closed backs? try and find a set of Pioneer SE monitor 5's to review.

[@johnyang799]

Pioneer doesn't know how to make shit.

[@VII89]

How is the soundstage on those?

[@omergenish5224]

What about beyer t1 v2?

[@androvich20]

Semi open vs closed

[@hootsl99]

So the CX’s are the 58x Jubilee version of the C Flows?

[@RathOX]

Basically, they arent EXACTLY the same but so close its literally not even worth buying the original version

[@johnyang799]

no

[@johncapone8843]

will I like these for watching movies?

[@devolutionary]

Depends on the movie audio. Soundstage is ok, not bad for closed planars. Very good imaging but not a lot of attention on the bass (like the flows), just great extension. No peaky sibalance either. Benefit from higher quality volume.

[@johnparkerzabala]

Different drivers Sir?

[@DJ.1001]

Anyone looking into these I highly suggest watch a few of Oluv's Gadgets video on them. These are absolutely abysmal sounding headphones. I'm beginning to the Zeos might be deaf.

[@buster7618]

It is almost as if audio is subjective. Lol jk, no way that's possible!

[@arthurhaywood2184]

While I listen to Oluv's reviews, I don't pray at his altar. Neither do I at Zeos'. What I do is evaluate their reviews & quantify them based on my own opinion when I've listened to the same product. When I do this, I find Oluv's opinions to be way off base more often when compared to my own. I don't always agree with Zeos either but I find more similarities than differences. The Ether CX just have to be properly burned in & I don't trust Oluv when it comes to that aspect. The Ether CX should not be critically listened to until a minimum of 200 hours is reached & I personally wouldn't review them until after 300 hours.

[@casualmime2792]

Darrin does he even have a dedicated review? Seems like he doesn't. Can't even find it on his channel. Just a sound demo, which you should know is an incredibly flawed way to make any assumption about audio equipment. He's also comparing a closed back planarr against an open dynamic, electrostat, and bluetooth planar? Poor methodology.

[@Matias-wu6xp]

Should I get some Alpha Dogs that I found for $300 or save up for these?

[@mattrismatt]

I'd avoid both. For a fraction of the cost (power requirements), I recommend you try out the Sivga SV003 with these replacement earpads from Amazon: B073NTTPPD. The resulting sound is detailed, with tight bass and crisp treble. A similar-sounding alternative would be the Sivga SV006 with Brainwavz MicroSuede oval pads.

[@CatGirlArmy]

Zeos please review the Massdrop EDC3