MASSEY FERGUSON 50: can I figure out these hydraulics?

[@kcphillips1000]

There is a diverter valve on the top cover to operate the spool valves .You cannot operate the spools and the lift linkage at the same time . The PTO can not be engaged without using the clutch pedals 2nd stage position ,fully down to the footplate .

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks!

[@opasvintagegarage]

I used my uncle's 50 for years and years. He bought it new and it has the steering wheel you described with the acorn nut. It also had a round center trim ring like the John Deere 60's, donut shape with either "power steering" or "Ferguson System" printed on it..can't remember. I wish I could remember more, as I forgot about it until I saw this video, specifically the shot from the driver's seat, and I was sent back to the early 70's, kinda wish I could've stayed there!! 🤣🤣

[@jvin248]

+1 that tractor has a two stage clutch to allow stopping the tractor while the PTO continues running for things like a hay baler chewing on a big wad or all the way down to stop both (or disengage/engage the PTO lever). That extra spool valve, if the owner is not using auxiliary equipment you can get a 'delete' cover block to put there instead. That will simplify future operation. Yesterday's Tractor site carries covers. The controls by the fender: outside by the wheel is Draft Control when plowing and the inner one is the normal up/down (although there is only up hydraulic pressure, implement weight does the down work).

[@duanecreativemachine]

Sweet! I’m glad your going to work on this. I have a 35 that’s a lot the same and can’t seem to find much info in simple language.

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Duane!

[@g.c.farmer5616]

Is it just me or did you find sliding the pto shaft together satisfying?

[@rosstheoliverman]

🤣🤣🤣

[@johnbender1596]

That old girl has some nice clothing! Great job of showing how the Ferguson System works on this era of tractors! Spent many day on one just like it spreading manure and making hay. The diverter valve operation sparked memories of that time. Hope you find a steering wheel and a chrome acorn nut. That would go well with the paint job.

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks John!

[@brianhayes7618]

Nice looking paint job sheet metal is in good shape sweet little tractor

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Brian!

[@michaelsheeder148]

Ross, 🤔 you should try doing a search somebody on KZbin probably got a video on how to operate the three-point on that Massey Ferguson 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 thanks Michael

[@jonathancrissinger2301]

That's a nice looking Massey. Thanks for sharing this. It definitely helps to use them from time to time just to keep them up. See you in the next one.

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Jonathan!

[@DonWelter]

You get into a variety of colors and operating characteristics. Used to have a MF 65 diesel on the farm where I worked. Took awhile to get used to the hydraulics and pto. Definitely not Oliver, IH, or Deere!!! Best thing on that critter was the fuel economy of the perkins diesel. Could rake hay all day and not use much fuel.

[@spro9639]

Another job well done Mr ross👍🏿

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks!

[@keithwuchter624]

Great video Ross. Those Masseys are just a different breed of animal. Just takes a little time to get used to. But up and running. Good deal. Thanks for sharing.

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Keith !

[@ACF6180T]

I hope to get my M-F 50 looking that good; Or close to it this late Spring; She has been wearing her work clothes since I bought her 26.5 years ago. She will always be a work tractor though.

[@tomharrington1393]

That’s a purty tractor 👨‍🔧🚜👍👍

[@rosstheoliverman]

It sure is!

[@larryklostermann5779]

Nice video Ross

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Larry!

[@Ham68229]

Ross, you're right, some models of MF's did have the acorn nut on the steering wheel. I think this might be one of those, look into AGCO's archives. I know that they do or rather did have a huge surplus of the MF parts. It is possible for that lift cylinder to rust but, extremely rare if it did. That system is considered a "closed" system, the piston only has either a rubber or leather "cup" no rings but, the oil never truly leaves the cylinder except in the down position and even then, if my memory serves correctly, there's still a small amount that "sits" in the cylinder wall. Now, if that cup leaked, you'd know that too. Looks like he's missing something for those lift arms, I know certain model of MF's has pins on the lower end of the fenders directly under the rear axle, those pins were used for the sway arms, rather, anti-sway arms, locks the implement in position to where it won't move side to side. This is where the old Fords and MF's were hard to tell apart, many were almost identical except slight changes in hood and front grill styles. Everything else, were identical to a point. Great video as always. Cheers :)

[@jasonandholliehuffman8291]

Good video👍👍

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thank you 👍

[@martymurphy7477]

Cool Massey video

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Marty!

[@corydriver7634]

Guilty! I hit the like button before I watched the video.

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Cory!

[@larrymcever4601]

I have one like that. The hydraulic oil must be 90 W MINERAL OIL, or the hydraulics will not work. To use the remote hydraulics, you need to have dedicated cylinders so that the oil does not become contaminated. The hydraulics will stop working if you get too much regular 90 W rear end oil in the mix.

[@markhicks9545]

To adjust the pto clutch undo pedal from shaft turn shaft forward with a bar in the spare hole provided and tight the pedal back up

[@rosstheoliverman]

That’s the way I did it on the Ferguson 30 so I guess we’ll have to try it on here. Thanks!

[@kcphillips1000]

Ross , you need the same steering wheel as fitted to a UK made MF35 /MF65 .The same wheel fits both machines .

[@rosstheoliverman]

Cool! I’ll have to look into it

[@jiggjohns1028]

The clutch is a 2 stage halfway for gear change or engagement and all the way depressed to engage pto. I have the same model in almost as good of shape .

[@neilkratzer3182]

Most likely the draft control lever stuck itself from sitting. They are relatively easy to work on. Most likely it stick itself in the toplid. The valve could have bypassed it. The clutch linkage may have 2 holes. One locks out the 2 stage clutch. Not quite like an oliver is it.

[@rosstheoliverman]

No, it’s quite a bit different 🤣 Thanks Neil!

[@Ron-m9p]

great video should start better an the hyd should work a little smoother

[@richardrieckers9567]

You probably need to clutch it to engage pto. That's how it works on my Ferguson 30.

[@rosstheoliverman]

I was doing that, the camera just couldn’t see it.

[@masseyfordguy2948]

Hi Ross yeah I don't know about the steering wheel I know it suppose to have a black round steering wheel with a accorn nut like you said Ross I might have a Parts book here that may have a number if you need me to look it up for you talk at you latter Ross

[@dawn20]

Clutch needs to be adjustment that should have a 2stage clutch

[@rosstheoliverman]

It does! I just need to tinker with it some more

[@stephenheyes4324]

That steering wheel is from a 165 the original is the same as a mf35 or 65

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Stephen!

[@MikeJensen-wo7oh]

Friend of mine just bought a 50 N.F.E and a corn-picker that is supposed to fit it. It does not.

[@rosstheoliverman]

That would be an interesting rig to see if he could get it to go!

[@jackmanatee3162]

First orange sadness, now red sadness. What's next?

[@rosstheoliverman]

🤣🤣🤣

[@markhicks9545]

If my memory is right yellow position control yellow draft control

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Mark!