MASSEY FERGUSON 5200 4wd Tractor

[@darrenmatthys8323]

Bought a 5200 Massey in 1990 and owned it for 17 years. Detroit powered cranked up to 500 HP. That thing could pull like no other. Traded it for a John Deere 9400once it had 6000 Hrs on it .Loved that old Massey

[@bigtractorpower]

The 5200 is a nice tractor. The farm featured in this video has the 5200 and two 4900s. How did you like the change to the 9400?

[@michaelbaumgardner2530]

Good to see a Ferguson for a change.My dad bought a new Massey 65 in 1964 the year I was born and it's still running you can't kill a Perkins diesel.

[@richardewasko7905]

Well, I had enlarged from a MF 1155 2wd 150hp. V8 to MF 1805 4x4. 210 hp Cat. In 1980. I restarted my career in 2010 being second owner of MF 1805. As of yesterday, it has 3978 hours all original even tires are the first set still on it. It toils 90 acres near Winnipeg Manitoba Canada just because I still want to!! I sure enjoy all your presentations. I never knew of the 5200 MF. But now I do. Thank you

[@0796logsplitter]

I had to watch that a second time. I just love those articulated masseys. Thank you .

[@hellomynameisjv]

Great presentation on the history of the MF 5200. Thank you! Grew up with Massey and never knew why more farmers didn’t have them in SW Ontario.

[@colneislandrailway1335]

I’m in the UK, and here I started my farming career on a Massey Ferguson 35, then up to an MF 65. As the years progressed, I drove an MF165, then the MF178 and eventually onto the 4WD 1200. Even though I now no longer work on the farm, I’m still a Massey Ferguson fan 👍

[@thetwoboyos8366]

Great progression👍

[@martingardener90]

How did you rate the 1200? A lot of people didn't have anything good to say about them. A local man had one fitted with a turbo and a 12 speed gearbox ( from a 699 I think ) He said that made it into a good tractor.

[@donaldthomas5852]

My dad actually started out with a WD Allis Chambers and a 8N Ford then he switched to Massey Ferguson's he likewise had a new Massey Ferguson 35 and 65. Then 165; 175, 255; 265 ; 275; 285; 361, and his last tractor was a MF 471. Today I have a 1990 Massey Ferguson 3070 92hp. and a 1989 IMT 539 and a JD 5320. Three of my brothers also has Massey Ferguson tractors.

[@timhenning18]

You should come to Germany

[@trevors42]

We had a 4880 back in the 80’s. We still run Massey’s to this day. We have some 86 and 8700 series.

[@cnc678]

Nice video We farmed in stokes NC not far from Kinston, We had 12 MF tractors and combines. 35,135,165,175,1105,1135,1155,2805 tractors. 300,410,540 combines.

[@alhehn2101]

Had a few Massey Ferguson's on the farm a 275, 698 and used a 1085 and 1105 Good tractors love the Perkins power

[@darrenmatthys8323]

Excellent coverage of these Big 4 wheel drive tractors .You do great work. I watch all the video. I Farm growing Potatoes. I was driving Grandpas Versatile 850 at 13 years Old. I bought the Massey 5200 in 1991 at 23 years Old driving it for 17 years. It was a Great tractor Detroit 60 Series turned to 500 HP 8 24.5x32 weighted and Calcium filled duals it pulled the 36 foot Sunflower Disc with ease. Strait piped from factory was loud changed that as I got older. During the 6000 Hrs only issue as the Air Conditioner other than that it was a excellent tractor. Traded it for a 9400 John Deere it had a little better ride, quieter, but could not out pull the Massey for sure. Still have the 9400 and added a Restored 945 Versatile to the list a few years back Beautiful tractor from Western Canada. Love the Videos keep up the good work.

[@George-f5s]

I have a small compact Massey. Love it. Massey is all my grandparents used. Good quality tractors

[@donaldthomas5852]

Got a 1990 Massey Ferguson 3070 92hp. I was raised up on Massey's.

[@clintonstubbs2319]

Big tractor power I have a cousin that had a Massey Ferguson 1150 or 1155 with the Perkins V-8 diesel a few years ago. I remember seeing a Agcostar 4wd tractor at the Sunbelt Ag Expo back in 1997 when I was in middle school. Your videos bring a lot of memories for me.

[@ghostdevill]

If you have one of these tractors. Keep them! Something that reliable and strong you’re never going to find in you’re whole life!

[@tjlqk3]

Great sounding tractor. Looks to be very well maintained; no blue or black smoke. Nice

[@nimrod7121]

Love the sound of old masseys

[@AndreasKay-b3e]

in the late 70s we had a MF177 with 4wd and turbo open station. loved that tractor.

[@bigtractorpower]

Very nice set up.

[@garyfaulds2008]

That is my favorite old work horse . Love the old girl . Thanks Jason 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🇨🇦😍

[@jimclements3190]

Back in the 80s in the UK I worked on a big Lincolnshire farm and we ran 4x 4840 and 1 4880 they were very good tractors in their day and were superb strong pillars and sounded awesome( all 903s).Also they were fitted with euro spec electronic control 3 point lift.I often wondered how they were at the end of production, and thanks to you sir,I now know👍

[@dalewalker2315]

I owned a Massey 4880 with the 903 Cummins, the biggest problem we encountered was when the engine oil cooler broke, it took many flushings to get it back to working order. The only other problem, is the air conditioner, if it quit, the tractor was unusable. You could not get enough air in the cab to keep you cool. For years we had been told how much more torque 6 cyl. engine had, but that is the farthest from the truth. We had an 11 bottom moldboard plow, that you could stop in the middle of the field, and to start up you let the clutch out, and give her the gas, with the Agcostar 8360 I traded the 4880 for, when you stopped in the middle of the field with the same plow, you throttled up and then let the clutch out, that's the difference between 6 cyl and 8 cyl torque. I retired from farming in '05, but in '03 I bought a Massey sub-compact CG2300, I traded it last fall for a TBL 1723e with a Curtis cab on it to blow snow with. The CG2300 had 666 hrs. on it and except for a problem with the PTO lever, the only thing I did to it was change oil and filters. In my humble opinion it was a great little tractor.

[@nellsonstout7001]

In-line 6s have more *low end* torque, but the turbo 903s can probably outpull them at higher RPMs given identical horsepower output

[@johncook3817]

Great video!!!!!!!!! I love the big Massey fergusons . The 5200 is better for moving the exhaust and air cleaner to the side apart from that it's the same as the others. I wo not say no to having any off them. Massey ferguson rule!!!!!!!!!!!

[@richmaniscalco201]

I really enjoy watching the tractors and farm equipment working out in the field. Thanks for all the videos.

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@davidmead731]

Another great video. Good to hear these big boys bark pulling a boil set of disks. 50 years ago I worked for a farmer who would send us out on a Saturday on a 4020 and a big set of heavy disks ‘to keep the weeds down and stop you blokes getting into trouble’. Old fashioned but it worked.

[@Parents_of_Twins]

My Dad uses a Massey 1130 on his farm for tillage and bailing. Little large for the bailing but he got a good deal on it and the other tractors are either too small or too big. Dad and I built a 4wd tractor out of FWD truck. Dad did all the design i just turned bolts and did some grinding and cutting. It's powered by a 220 Cummins engine with a 10 speed Fuller, I think, transmission running into a two speed transfer case. Dad made the rims by welding the centers from the FWD into the rims from a John Deere combine so the tires are on 26" rims and I believe they are 23.1-26's. We had some issues getting a local machine shop to finish up a pinion shaft for us with the guy telling us he'd get it done "next week" for about a year and a half until Dad finally gave up on him and essentially built himself a surface grinder. He used it to cut the splines and finish out the pinon. I'm not sure how much he uses it since he bought the Massey but it is a cool machine. It is amazing how many people told Dad it wouldn't work.

[@nellsonstout7001]

Join the homemade farm equipment group on Facebook. They’d like to hear about it

[@JEDI-MAQUINAS]

Taí que trator monstros pena q no Brasil não saíu

[@kevinfox5068]

I don't think you'll have a chance of getting that MF5200 as part of your collection because for the farmer to replace it would work out very expensive, on the farm I worked on ,the 3 Massey Fergusson's he had were the 35, 65 and the 165 the only time we had some serious tractors is when we were drilling Ammonia into the hay field's and the contractors were using MF 1200's to us we thought they were spaceships absolutely beautiful wasted on our farm. Stay safe God Bless, regards Kevin Fox,Essex London, UK.

[@maxbardier1608]

We learn every day ! Im a big fan of Massey and i din't know that Keep up the good work ;)

[@waynethomas9510]

Yes we run Massey Ferguson on our farm. A 1155, 1135, 1130,1130 narrow front. 1085 and 175

[@bigtractorpower]

Great Massey line up 👍👍

[@fwcjr8170]

We had a Massey 4880 with the 903 Cummins that we bought used in ‘89. It was a good tractor, much smoother and quieter compared to the Versatile 895 we already had. When the 903 died we traded for another Versatile.

[@Parents_of_Twins]

It's a 60 Series Detroit which ranged in size from 11.1L to 14.0L. It is considered by many to be the best diesel engine built to date with the 855 Cummins usually coming in second to it. Either way the Massey Ferguson 5200 has a great engine in it and it sure had a nice sound to it in your video. Personally I'd love to have one with the 60 series Detroit in it.

[@davidlogel2350]

Lots of better engines from that era. N14 Cummins and 3406 Cat.

[@Parents_of_Twins]

@@davidlogel2350 Thanks for your opinion.

[@Parents_of_Twins]

@@davidlogel2350 "Detroit Diesel's Series 60 ranked second best diesel engine ever in the "Best Diesel Engine Ever” list compiled by Diesel Power Magazine." One could argue that the DT466 was a better engine but I was thinking of larger engines. Not going to say that your selections are bad because they are good engines as well. DPW is not the only place that I've read about the high quality of the 60 Series Detroits. If you read my post I said it is considered by many. I challenge you to find an engine that someone somewhere doesn't have an uncle, cousin, grandpa, etc that had otne that was a POS. Hell the Ford 300-6 is considered to be an excellent engine and I was in a truck when it windowed the block. Of course some idiot teenager had been out beating the living piss out of the truck the day before until it was hammering like a roofing team but without that bit of info I could say they were crap engines. So once again thanks for your opinion and have a great life.

[@eleanorecopet4090]

Detroit build complete garbage engines these engines kept breaking down in all our trucks from Big Freight ,,,, shortly after CAT powered engines were also junk/breaking down just like pre mentioned brand ,,,a netting in head office quickly switched entire fleet to Cummins Superior Engines that were proven with minimal issues !

[@Chris-27182]

These machines are 40 years old and do the hardest work.

[@bigtractorpower]

👍👍

[@Braedon-bv8sb]

I’m a big John Deere fan but I do have to say that is one nice tractor

[@rylangeck6928]

We have a lot of 70s-80s Massey Ferguson equipment. We have a 4880 and two 4900s as well as smaller tractors like an 1155 and four 1105 tractors

[@dougpeebles2383]

Watching from Guelph, Ontario which is about 45 minutes north of Brantford, Ontario. Drove some of the smaller Massey Ferguson tractors growing up on the farm in the 70s.

[@hubertrobinson8825]

I started with a 135 massey and I still love them wants no other brands put a Cummins in a Massey and that thing will last forever

[@davidharpin545]

Iooks like the governor is tired, the RPM is not stable. Very nice tractor and video by the way !

[@bruceward2012]

We used a 4840 for many years in Western Australia we still have that tractor now on lighter duties We also have a an Agco star 8360 which is used for ripping sheet ironstone in fields with a Reefinator The main feature the Agco has over the Massey is the stock mechanical parts available almost anywhere Have you done a video on articulated Australian tractors from the 70s and 80s such as Phillips Acremaster Waltanna and Baldwin

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. The Massey and AGCO STAR tractors are solid machines. I would like to feature the Australian 4wds. I have sales literature on them. Maybe some say I will make it to Australia to film those cool 4wds.

[@interman7715]

The Agcostar looked cool .

[@jimaagenes8445]

Spent many hours in a 1500 as a kid on the farm. Nice tractor in the day. Nothing like the one in this video though!

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. What implements did the 1500 run? I hope to get a 1500/1505 1800/1805 filmed at some point to feature.

[@jimaagenes8445]

bigtractorpower IH model 700(?) 8 bottom plow, 16”. 32 foot mellow multiweeder. 12 one way disk, don’t remember the model, it was orange. Glencoe 28’ cultivator. Soil was sandy. Also a lot time in 1970 145 versatile with a Cummins. That tractor was LOUD in the cab! Massey was unbelievably quieter. Also applied anhydrous ammonia.

[@mulletman1743]

This would be a sweet edition to your lifesize tractor collection.

[@wayneandrews412]

This was a great video I love old Massey tractor we had massey on the farm and my stepfather worked for a massey dealer ship

[@ricktucker5130]

I liked seeing the big Massey at work

[@bigtractorpower]

Massey made some good 4wds.

[@jimmielittle877]

I wonder how many of these huge tractors are still working hard for the money these days and how many were returned from retirement to work again?🌻

[@bigtractorpower]

The Massey 4wds have lasted pretty well. I don’t see too many junked ones. The 4000s were big sellers. It is unknown how many McConnell 1000/ MF 5200s were built but if I were to guess I would say under 200. They are prized tractors to have for Massey and 4wd fans.

[@jimmielittle877]

Thx for info🌻

[@ginggur17]

Love those 903’s soundtrack. Lush.

[@davidstout5883]

I really liked this video love to hear the history and what happened who brought who and where they are now or if they even exesest. Great video !!!

[@aidenmagnuson6306]

For a split second I thought you were at Cole the Cornstar’s place

[@user-A244F]

So did I

[@barackobama8664]

Same brooo

[@nellsonstout7001]

His are 4800 series which were actually built by Massey and have 903 Cummins v8s. The sound would give them away in a heartbeat

[@dannyboy5270]

Hey everybody your watching cole the cornstar

[@nellsonstout7001]

I wonder if notched blades would create a better result

[@deanmeyer1815]

I would be curious to see how the Detroit and Cummins compared as far as torque rise, fuel consumption, ease of maintenance and cost of maintenance and repairs.

[@bigtractorpower]

It would be neat to share. These tractors are hard to find. Most likely less than 200 were made. If I get a chance to film the engine variations I sure will.

[@shaneknowles3070]

Your description Jason. Lol. That's a weird looking Fendt 1050.!!!

[@Snowtruckdriver]

I've never seen one of these models. Very interesting. That disc was really chopping up that regrowth and weeds.

[@drewcasson219]

A lot of people thought they were set for life if they were hired at the Massey combine plant and were a long time recovering when they were dissolved a friend of mine used to test prototypes on his farm for the engineering dept

[@bondoly66]

I enjoyed the heck out of that video.

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. I hope to film this farms Massey 4900 4wd this month.

[@dominikdrabich]

Thank You for a content. Great video

[@whiteout1962]

Was waiting for the operator to open the throttle on the 5200 and let it bark

[@skibik64]

A farmer I worked for in the early 80's had two 4WD Massey's, an 1800 and an 1805. The farmer also had a Versatile 835 and that was the Cadillac of the 3 tractors back then I thought, although I never got to drive it much.

[@ericlakota1847]

$128,000 that was lots of money back then they made this life investment back then but they where built to last back then farmers wouldent tolerate it being junk .I've never heard much bad about massey ferguson we has a few 70s models and they where good not the favorite tractors but they got work done and where reliable looked really good all shinedup .

[@ginggur17]

Beast!

[@nellsonstout7001]

Hopefully you’ll feature the 4900 eventually

[@bigtractorpower]

I have one lined up to film this spring.

[@markisb3585]

I learned something new. I never knew it was built in Kinston Nc. I live 30 minutes west of Kinston Nc.

[@thomasrouse3826]

Markis B I remember when they opened that plant. It’s across from what’s now the old mall. I was probably only 9 or 10 at the time and they had one out on display. It was by far the largest tractor I’d seen to that point; I was in awe. I didn’t know the story on why it closed, but selling it to Agco makes sense.

[@kevinwilson1475]

I put in 4200ac this spring with a 4840 and a 4900

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. This farm has a 5200 and 4900.

[@OkieDoke18]

That's one heck of a disk!

[@bigtractorpower]

👍👍

[@mattcraztex9940]

The old Massey Ferguson Factory in Brantford was an amazing plant with loads of other brands also at the site. It was sad to see the factory close and eventually demolished in the early 2010's.

[@bigtractorpower]

Lots of good Massey and WFE/Cockshutt Iron was built in Brantford.

[@mattcraztex9940]

@@bigtractorpower Yea it really was a great factory. It was what Brantford is known for. The Massy & Cockshutt Production Line. We also had International Harvester equipment in Hamilton not to far away. There is even a road called "Harvester Road' which is named after IH, it was where IH had there equipment warehouse.

[@cliffh8486]

I would like to see this tractor with the series 60!!

[@dargaming379]

Me too! I’ve only ever seen one picture of a 5200 with the Series 60....I want to see one in the field working!

[@nellsonstout7001]

Same here

[@jfdfireguy1753]

Still have some smaller Massey tractors. 1130, 1150, both open cab.

[@jerrynye5441]

I grew up using Allis-Chalmers and Massey Ferguson’s!

[@cliffh8486]

I wonder why they didn’t cut and bale that grass off before they started tillage?

[@nellsonstout7001]

It’s probably a mix of all different kinds of weeds. I wouldn’t be feeding that to anything

[@dougschmitii6165]

Looked really weedy

[@tomcleverley18]

Probably row crop operation.

[@brandontegan9665]

Awesome video Jason! If you know of a 5200 for sale I would buy it lol

[@arvbergstedt3303]

JD and Case with quiet cabs and strong dealer networks killed off lots of competition in the 70s and 80s.

[@GabrielSantos-pw7op]

Massey é Show

[@ryankc9oza118]

We have 4 of the 4000 series. Good machines if taken care of

[@oldfarmer3001]

Nice sound of the 390 hp version ! Yep, but no fendt 1050... :-)

[@anthonydevito4450]

That is a good sounding tractor

[@samweber38]

Have two Massey 175s, 1135, and a 5480 in Mexico New York

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. I have been through Mexico many many times. I always enjoyed eating at the restaurant on Black Creek by the high school. It was a shame it burnt down. I always liked seeing the plastic palm tree by the road near Grandma Browns. You have a nice Massey line up. I remember a farm not too far from Grandma Browns on 104 that had a Black Knight Case 970 with a loader.

[@bradolsen9981]

Thank you much appreciate it👍

[@jamesmaslin620]

Still using a agcostar 8360 today great tractor has over 9000 hours on it

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

Much as I enjoy Big Tractor Power videos, I must take issue with the statement that the MF 5200 was a direct replacement for the MF 4900 - I don't think it was a replacement, but an addition to the range, albeit MF stopped making them I think around 1986 (?), because Cummins had decided to phase out the V8-903 engine. The MF 5200 tractor is of course, to all intents and purposes, an MF 4000 series tractor, with a slightly longer Front Frame, to accommodate the newer inline 6 cylinder engines specified for the tractor. It will be noted too, that the bonnet profile differs from an MF 4000 series machine, inasmuch that it too is longer than the previous series machines, and the sharp sloping portion at the front, was to give the driver a still adequate view of where he was going - if the bonnet did not have this feature, the drivers' view ahead would have been compromised. Apart from the new engines, bonnet design and stretched Front Frame, the rest of the tractor was pretty much identical to its MF 4000 series siblings. Wheelbase was the same @ 137". Ward McConnell built his McConnell Marc tractors to this same design, marketing two tractors with different engines to give different outputs, the 900 & 1000 models. The largest one put out 425 hp, can't remember what the smaller one put out though. McConnells own tractors were produced for about 3 years, then Agco bought him out, and introduced the Agco Star tractors in 1995. Apart from a slightly different bonnet and roof design (presumeably both plastic by this time), the Agco Star was mechanically identical to the previous McConnell artics, and I read somewhere, that apart from the Silver of White tractors, the new Agco machines could be had in Orange for Allis and Red for Massey Ferguson, though have seen neither of the latter models with that particular paint scheme. Since the high horsepower articulated tractor market is a comparatively small one, it made sense for Agco to retain the mechanical underpinnings of the previous MF/McConnell tractors, rather than going to the expense of developing a completely new range, from the tyres up.

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for your reply. When I say replaced I mean that as the next model. I would say the John Deere 9420 was the replacement for the 9400. The Case IH 9270 was the replacement for the 9170 in the line up. The 4000 series , McConnell tractors and AGCO Star are interesting because they are all very similar with slight changes. McConnell built the Massey 5200. Massey dealers failed to fulfill the agreement to order so many units and McConell sent Massey a letter that he would no longer supply them with the 5200. In 1991 McConnell released the 900, 990 and 1000. The 990 was the 5200. Interestingly if you look on the cab serial tag of this 5200 it lists a 5180 Massey on the tag but it never came to market.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

@@bigtractorpower Hi Jason, thank you for taking the time to reply to my comments. You're obviously well versed on these machines - wasn't aware that there was a McConnell 990 tractor or that MF failed to order a certain minimum number of units - all interesting stuff. Do you get your background info from ex dealers or ex MF personnel, or is it a little of both, may I ask ?

[@adrianchetwynd1334]

In this video we spend time out in the field with a 500 hp Fendt 1050 tractor and 32 ft McFarLane Reel Disk.???

[@bradleygeers8941]

You could get the Agco star in red and orange also

[@ihguy2113]

we used to have an 1805 massey with axle duals

[@rustysimms5583]

I would love to buy this tractor not a lot of 5200 out there.

[@bronsonhunter1231]

where was this filmed at?

[@markraihl4249]

D21 in the field please

[@marlborodemoura1377]

Qwe motor ele usa ??

[@EMODELCAT-ci3wr]

Neat! Great sounding machine as well.

[@ericlakota1847]

We never loved are massy ferguson buy they are great looking in paint shined up

[@SimonKL11]

This tractor sounds nice👍 Thank you for sharing👍😉

[@Thegrim326]

Watchin that agcostar bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy

[@warrenwerner2916]

Great videos ! Would be nice if you could show equipment unfolding/folding, road to field.

[@bigtractorpower]

The start of the video features the disk unfolding. I was not able to stay through the entire field to see the disk fold up.

[@heretohelp1805]

Why no scalloped discs???

[@shaneknowles3070]

Love your channel and work ethic tho.👍

[@bondoly66]

It looks like that field hasn't seen a disc in more than a year. That tractor is doing more than Charles Ingalls could do even with Mary and Half Pint and Caroline bringing water.

[@bigtractorpower]

It was a wet spring. They could not get on the field to spray so the weeds grew up a bunch. It was soybeans the previous year. Harvested in early November.

[@timgear9892]

Interesting history of the MF 4-wheelers. Too bad you could not do an interview with Mr McConnel himself and find out why he bought the MF brand of 4-wheelers, and why they just did not catch on.

[@thomasanderson1783]

Is this one of your personal tractors? I was thinking you had a Massey?

[@dougschmitii6165]

I think he only has a IH 4 wheel drive and a Deere 8850

[@antoniorodriguesreal476]

Top show

[@Xavier-63]

EXCELLENT MERCI ✌

[@timhenning18]

I want one for here in Germany!

[@heatmoon]

the size of that cab!

[@popswrench2]

903 , sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet sound

[@mikeabresch94]

Very nice tractors Mike from DWARF WORKS

[@barackobama8664]

Bro I legit thought you were at coles place