Massive Fuel Leak

[@dist-dev]

"I didn't mess it up, you did" is a quick way a pilot can turn a something a controller may have let slide, into a "Possible pilot deviation, I've got a number for you to call..."

[@JustAnotherBuckyLover]

I was entirely expecting a "Please call this phone number" moment for that act of utter childishness from the pilot.

[@ignoto2010]

I'm curious how that ended up for the pilots. surely there's some bad attitude there, regardless if they felt they were right

[@eannliska423]

Fact

[@vernonsmithee792]

@@eannliska423 The sheer audacity of that controller to even THINK about challenging the competence of the Steely Eyed Missile men of AA for even a second is mind boggling!

[@muskiet8687]

I don't think being childish warrants an official slap on the wrist. I'm sure that the ground guy got his revenge some other way though. "Oh look... your gate opened up 10 minutes ago. Let's see if I can find a way to get you there within the next half hour." Never mess with the guy giving you your instructions.

[@stuartessex4535]

Hi Kelsey. I wish I'd known about his fuel leak. With the price of fuel in the UK at the moment, I could have run behind him with a bucket! 😂

[@notme2day]

$$$ And a mop! 🤣

[@beverlyweber4122]

And in America too...!

[@peterjf7723]

@@beverlyweber4122 Why 'America too' ? People in many countries outside of the U.S. pay more for gasoline due to higher taxes on fuel. European countries tend to have the highest gas taxes.

[@c.o.6414]

@@peterjf7723 maybe because americans are experiencing high fuel prices right now, too? no need to make it into a pissing contest

[@zachswain2196]

@@peterjf7723 There are a lot of places in the US where gas prices are just as high or higher than Europe. In Europe, prices go anywhere from the equivalent of $5-10/gallon, which is pretty much the same as the US right now. The US doesn't have the same taxes on fuel, but we have to ship fuel overseas in a lot of cases because we shut down the pipeline.

[@planesnthings]

Kelsey, I'm a controller and I LOVE the idea of controllers sitting in on a simulator during an emergency. It'd be great to get supervisors in there as well so they can stop telling us to ask stupid questions of the pilots when they're so busy.

[@ASRivers]

Definitely a great idea. Would be great situational awareness in the pocket for ATC. And everyone could be better on the same page. Great team building training. Push it!

[@charliesierra9430]

Good luck getting OKC to teach that. Even approaching the schoolhouse makes me shake my head. It's a good idea, and teaching it at the academy would be easy. Nonetheless, I will suggest it as if it's my idea, lol

[@seraphina985]

Asking isn't necessarily the problem but there does need to be an awareness it will be provided if and when able not before. As for the supervisors I'd guess the issue is probably more one of them pressuring controllers to get information when the pilots are unable. That will never happen certainly not with me anyway I have a plane to fly communication is secondary to flying the plane and making sure I'm going where I need to be, if I can hep you to help me I will but not at the cost of taking attention away from flying the plane at a critical point. This is how even private pilots like myself are trained aviate, navigate, communicate, in that order no exceptions.

[@wizardgmb]

Is emergency information entered into the FAA computer system by the first controller and passed from enroute to approach and tower? I have listened to a couple hundred emergencies on various KZbin channels and two things happen regularly that take time away from the pilots. The first is having to repeat the same information upon being passed to next controller. Is this a problem of the earlier controller not entering information into the system or the subsequent not taking the time to look at what's in the system? The second pilot time waster is the lack of uniformity of information requested of pilots. Souls onboard is pretty straightforward but requests for hazardous materials onboard are either not made or drawn out. By far the worst emergency question pilots are asked is "fuel onboard?"! If the pilot responds with time in hours and minutes the controller asks for the fuel in pounds, presumably so the fire command can assess the potential size of a fire. If the pilot responds with the fuel in pounds the controller asks for gallons or kilograms or time. Isn't there some way to standardize these requests to minimize pilot distractions? A simple conversion chart for controllers would solve the pounds vs kilograms vs gallons problem...

[@seraphina985]

@@wizardgmb There is a very good reason for the latter, namely that there are two reasons ATC will ask you for fuel on board. One is during a potential fuel emergency where they need to know how long they have to get you safely on the ground. The other is in the event of a potential crash where fire and rescue are asking how much of the flammable liquid hazmat may be involved in any potential fire. As fuel burn varies widely between types and flying conditions it is necessary to get the correct value for the situation at hand. The former is however more common this is why when this is what is wanted the units are often not specified but they always are (or should be) when the request is being forwarded from rescue services.

[@FliesLikeABrick]

Regarding your idea of ATC doing simulator "ride a longs" - that is excellent. Many industries could use that kind of cross-exposure. It helps all people understand how to do their own job better as part of a system of people, as well as be more compassionate to those who are maybe seem as challenges in their day-to-day responsibilities. There are often just factors at play that people don't know about their adjacent teams, companies, and industries

[@murraystewartj]

Never happen because money. An equally useful excercise would be to have pilots take a back seat when ATCs are doing their training. Everyone is busy, more so when there's an emergency.

[@SodawarsGaming]

ATC does get some jump seat privileges, not sure quite how far those extend but that was reinstated a few years back IIRC after being removed following 9/11. It should be mandatory. I know some airlines mandate that their dispatchers ride jump seat a few hours a year to have a better sense of pilot workload and responsibilities.

[@topethermohenes7658]

Flight attendants should join in too! They are an integral part of crm

[@ziiofswe]

I imagine they at least watch piloting videos during ATC education/training so they have _some_ clue about what the other side is dealing with.

[@palismiracle1614]

These are ‘grow your perspective’ moments. They are useful in all aspects of life.

[@clwatts]

I was on an MD-95 from Raleigh to Kansas City. Window seat just behind the wings and I saw that there was fuel leaking from a sump cover and streaming as mist off the back of the wing. I told a flight attendant about it, but the message was never relayed to the cockpit. When we landed at Kansas City I waited until everyone else was off the plane and approached the cockpit and informed the second officer who was staying at the door what I had seen. His reply? "I guess that explains why we used more fuel than normal this time." Oh, well. I was on the ground and we didn't blow up so I guess that was a good thing.

[@murphsmodels8853]

When I was a fueler, part of my routine when walking up to a plane was to do a quick check for wet spots on the ground under the wings. If I found a wet spot, I'd do a quick check to see if it was fuel or water. If fuel. I'd take a minute to see if it was a leak. I caught a 737 with a leak in the pylon that was dripping directly behind the engine that way.. This was befire I'd put 10.000 lbs of fuel into the wings and with all the pumps turned off.

[@williamgreene4834]

I was once fueling a small jet and noticed a puddle of brake fluid under the main gear. They had blown out a seal in the brakes. I've never seen a fuel leak though.

[@EFFEZE]

Beennnffffff, why you lying doh

[@MJSEN]

What is the test you use? Do you use a lighter and see if it ignites?

[@The_RC_Guru]

@@MJSEN uhhhh huge difference between water and fuel. Doesn’t exactly require being sent to the lab.

[@ziiofswe]

@@MJSEN If it smells like fuel, it's probably fuel.

[@suzannetitkemeyernlq]

I am one of your nervous flier viewers, but no more. You've demystified this enough that my last set of flights to the U.S. were no more worrisome than taking the Chicken bus through Nicaragua. You're providing service to all nervous fliers.

[@ASRivers]

I’d be scared of taking the chicken bus through Nicaragua!!

[@suzannetitkemeyernlq]

@@ASRivers Naw, piece of cake. You just need decent Spanish.

[@margotrosendorn6371]

Tell me more about the chicken bus

[@efulmer8675]

Chicken bus?

[@suzannetitkemeyernlq]

@@efulmer8675 Chicken bus is where U.S. school buses go to die and rise again. They are painted vainglorious colors and designs, and cost very little to ride. Went down to San Juan Del Sur to a resort and as I left the Nicaragua immigration at the border various taxi drivers started shouting they'd take us for fifty bucks. I climbed on the chicken bus and paid a munificent less than a dollar for the same ride. Best and cheapest way to get around Nica! Now if only they weren' t having political strive I'd go back to visit. Beautiful place.

[@chrisbowpiloto]

I met that captain about a week after the incident. From what I recall, they did a fuel check at TOC and noticed that something was wrong then. I really appreciate your comment about stopping ASAP on the runway, I never thought of that either

[@established_on_the_run]

We (try to) do something called “walk a mile in your shoes” at my job, having nurses of one department (the ER for example) shadow nurses in a different department (maybe the ICU) and it creates a mutual respect and better understanding of what each department does. There can be tension between departments because the work and skills themselves are quite different, but the overall goal is the same-safety and taking care of people. I love the idea of a simulated session with pilots and ATC! Cool to hear that the ILS and autopilot can be used in this way, to offload some of the work of the task-saturated crew. If the technology is there and it’s going to maximize safety, use it! Thanks for another great video!

[@kenbrown2808]

"what did I tell you?" "hold short of quebec" "why didn't you hold short of Quebec?" "we would have if you'd told us to" ummm.... someone seems to have some memory problems.

[@TL-YouTube]

Ego is a dangerous thing if left unchecked. LOL!

[@fataldason743]

I just wanted to say, even though you might not see this, I love how you point out good and great thing pilot have done instead of just roasting people all of the time, it nice to see the guys who do right get some recognition for what they've done well. its a nice change of pace to the usual youtuber who thinks "if I point out their flaws I look better."

[@ImpendingJoker]

When I was a line guy at a major FBO chain, we had a tenant Falcon 500 that had a faulty single point fueling system and would, for whatever reason, only fuel the right side, center tank and trim tank from the single point and wouldn't do the left wing at all. So, we had to do the left side over the wing(which doesn't allow for a full tank). Anyway, the last time we did this, the fuel just starts gushing from the left wing like crazy just like in this video, and we tell the pilots over UNICOM that this is happening, they just ball out the throttles hold the left brake and whip that sucker around like we were trying to mug them, and headed out to the active. Meanwhile, the tower had heard us on UNICOM and was telling them to stop. Airport OPS comes over to our ramp asking us what is going, on just as the Falcon hits runway 24, requests permission to take off, gets it, and then blasts out of there like he was a Nicaraguan drug smuggler. To top it off, guess who the VIP was on this flight? None other than former President Bill Clinton. I don't know if they ever got it fixed though, as I quit that job a couple of months later.

[@debrabaker1009]

Kelsey thank you for all of this information over the last year or so that I’ve been watching your channel you have definitely made a change in my life no more Valium before I have to get on an airplane🎉 I understand things so much better you’ve been an extremely great help to me thank you again. This clip was very interesting But I loved the last part of it oh my gosh that’s so funny😂

[@suegardner]

It makes such a difference doesn't it? I've been following this channel for perhaps a year too, and I feel like I could get on a plane now. I haven't tried it yet, but I think I will. I never thought that I would feel this way, I was all set never to fly again - ever! It's such a liberating feeling isn't it?

[@debrabaker1009]

@@suegardner Yes absolutely

[@fairyprincess911]

That’s so cool for you👍🏽🙌🏽

[@kneel1]

Great one at the end lol. "I didnt mess it up." That pilot is not the type of guy who takes responsibility for anything even after admitting to ATC exactly how he messedup the last instruction (was told to JUST hold short of Q, he was NOT told "goto Q, then hold short of 25R" which is what the pilot did)

[@apedreus]

ha ha yes - he reads back the correct instructions, says he didn't follow them, and then blames the controller.

[@srcastic8764]

@kneel, he is not this way with ATC, he’s like this with everything and everybody in his life, I guarantee it!!

[@AFloridaSon]

Great information by a great teacher, and storyteller, as usual.

[@bobd2659]

Question about braking/max breaking in a fuel leak...While stopping and getting FD on scene quick is good, if there was no fire while flying would it not be better to NOT introduce heat from braking potentially causing a fire? IE, the entire runway is already yours, use what you need to stop, but nothing more. Maybe a change to FD response instead, like one follow vehicle and others along the way?

[@robertschultz6922]

We sometimes do place a truck at the middle of the runway. It all depends on the sop's and the situation. We want to get to the aircraft as fast as possible but also maintain a exit corridor for passenger evacuation

[@elkhunter8664]

Staging ARFF vehicles along the length of the runway is already standard procedure.

[@mikeknowlden9617]

The fuel leak is well aft of the breaks. Once landed he can shut off all fuel to that engine including internal boost pumps so HOT breaks are not an issue.

[@jasoncentore1830]

I've worked a few Airports and usually they do stage units in back and the middle. I've seen alot of Emergency landings, none were serious, mostly loss of hydraulics or other minor things. No fires or crashes. The Rescue teams do a great job taking no chances

[@Panhead49EL]

@@mikeknowlden9617 Location of leak was unknown.

[@sologhostxx8010]

This is awesome! I fuel for United out of Denver and I always give extra 100-200 lbs of fuel in case of something like this, and I make sure when I walk away I look at the wings and make sure none is spilling out

[@ClearedAsFiled]

Thanks for doing such a great job....!!!

[@kevinwells4986]

That was classic. I've had very little interaction with ATC in my young life, the only instruction I remember clearly on final was to speed it up if possible. Hard to do in my little plane, and I was cleared on my downwind to enter final... but it worried me. And I was nineteen at the time I believe. I really appreciated the ATC guy in this one.

[@christopherg2347]

16:03 At the first backtalk, it was pretty clear the pilot messed up. Any professional pilot would focus on getting his plane to the gate first and leave complaints until after they are no longer operating the plane. If they argue there and then? Yeah, probably messed up.

[@HoldTheLine1990]

Yup, I feel the pain of hitting an airport maybe once or twice in a year and ATC talks as if I’m a frequent flyer. Pen, paper, airport diagram and Safe Taxi all help 👍😎me. Super job explaining the emergency for those you have less exposure to this flying thing. 🙌

[@jimrobin]

I thought of a "smart-ass" response to have given your flight simulator instructor when he asked why you selected 3 on the auto-brakes. "Well I selected 3 because I thought the fire truck would prefer to concentrate on the fuel leak rather than having to douse down my red hot wheels." I'd love to have seen his face! 😉

[@Down2Chill]

I’m a private pilot with instrument rating sign off (ready for check ride) love this channel !

[@genehunsinger3981]

WELL,the last clip .That pilot wasnt given a # to call.That's a plus.

[@mwestie12]

It would be awesome if you could find one of the Pilots from one of these videos and have them discuss what was going through their head while their situation was unfolding.

[@maxxlax-16]

I have a flight on the 28th and i cant stop watching these.

[@waterfallhunter634]

I like how your eyes changed color as the video progressed.

[@tactileslut]

Long night in the hotel with the laptop and camera.

[@labla8940]

1982 an AV-8 Harrier Marine Corps Air Station Yuma AZ had a fuel transfer issue. I was a Crash Crew the fire rescue crew. As we were heading to the mid field via taxiway toward our designated station as it landed it summersaulted and was in a wall of fire what seemed 200' high and 1000 feet long. 41 years later I see it like it was yesterday He landed conventionally because the imbalance and on Harriers the have struts near the tips of wings and it caught the arresting cable like on an aircraft carrier. Seeing his horribly charred body was heart breaking. RIP 1st Lt Charles Simpson

[@tntfreddan3138]

8:15 This is quite accurate for me too. Not a pilot, but a truck driver. Some guys I meet say that they've been working for 10+ years and they're all the way from across the country. They run 2 or 3 hauls in a week, or so. I've been running regional deliveries with a truck and full, 13 meter long trailer with front pivot axles. I reverse into tight spots and some places where even my colleagues say that I shouldn't even go in with a trailer but pull over the pallets from the trailer to the truck before delivery. You can almost see what type of driver someone is by how they behave and how quickly they're able to work on a terminal. I can reverse 90° in between 2 trucks and still be centered between the lines and have the truck and the trailer straight when I'm finished. A driver who does longer hauls don't go in reverse as often as I do. Some of them are quite good but then you have those who you think are really good cuz they're driving really nice trucks. But in fact I almost get gray hair before they're done and they're not even straight in the gate.

[@Jimorian]

I watch some of the trucker dashcam videos, and when one comes up of a truck stop at night, I just know some poor soul's sleep is about to be ruined by somebody who doesn't have the skills to make that maneuver. I'll stick to American Truck Sim. ;)

[@MohsniLegend]

I wasn’t sure about 74 gear at first, now I absolutely love him, so dry and funny

[@truthteller1246]

74 gear.. Head and shoulders above the rest..hope ye good kelsey

[@Anonymous-pm7jf]

Sometimes people know their jobs so well they forget it took a long time for them to get to where they are. They are the people who are difficult to collaborate with or to train under.

[@Numfuddle]

You have a similar dynamic with Formula 1 drivers and their engineers. Drivers have a huge workload during a lap, they’re driving at speeds of up to 200 mph, they have to tweak a lot of engine and powertrain parameters (engine mappings, brake bias, managing the boost from the electric part of the hybrid engine), while trying to go around as quickly as possible and also managing tyre temperatures. At the same time they get a lot of info from their engineers. Lap times, deltas to their opponents, information about the sensor suite (tire temps, engine temps, brake temps etc.) This can seriously distract them from the actual task of driving the car as quickly as possible. Given that there’s no FAA which mandates codes of conduct and the stakes are much lower sometimes drivers get on the radio to tell their engineers to „shut up I’m driving“ to ease the work load

[@lukeorlando4814]

This comment made me smile. Takes me back to when Kimi took the lead and he had everyone on the radio trying to micromanage him to which Raikkonen responded “ leave me alone I know what I’m doing “

[@klingterra]

17:50 OUCH!! Way to call out my home airport! LOL Granted, I grew up listening to it and I still get lost so I feel ya.

[@UrMomGoes2College]

As for the "County vehicles are requesting for more information" as a fireman, I can tell you the airport fire department has sent a request to their local municipality for a "mutual aid" response. That's getting outside resources or units to respond to the airport to back them up. I can say the outside departments don't have the ATC radios that airport fire have so they don't exactly know what's going on. That's likely why the county units were requesting for more information.

[@ronstrong9560]

"Fire-MAN"? The term is & has been for decades...FIREFIGHTER.

[@rillab]

@@ronstrong9560 please let people call themselves as they want

[@ronstrong9560]

Crash FIREFIGHTERS are stationed at airports, They can station equipment at various points near the runway & intercept, pre-foam, or follow the planes as needed.

[@tanya5322]

@@ronstrong9560 my guess is that Rusty is/identifies as a _man_ . Therefore is entitled to refer to himself as a fireMAN if he wants to.

[@h1tsc4n40]

@@ronstrong9560 I'm seriously struggling to find who asked

[@etrimbleable]

Hi Kelsey. You're turning into a real celebrity pilot. It's always great to hear new stuff. Keep it comin'.

[@jonathanharrell1475]

I love your content, I'm going to be taking my checkride soon and a lot of what you go over has helped me. Thanks for all the great breakdowns!

[@kneel1]

Good luck! whereabouts?

[@jonathanharrell1475]

@@kneel1 Northern PA

[@kneel1]

@@jonathanharrell1475 nice! Im from PA originally, but philly area

[@tombstonegabby]

I noted the reference to the Instrument Landing System (ILS). Some history. When that system was first developed the FAA and the airlines needed an airport for pilots to be able to safely train on the system, a location with mostly clear weather. Had a friend who worked for the FAA. He suggested Yuma, Arizona, 360 clear days a year (they claim). Yuma is also a US Marine Corps air base. The Colonel in charge didn't like the idea at all. The system was installed anyway. (Chuck C. - he was in charge of all the FAA navigation aids in that area.)

[@ssj3gohan456]

I'm glad for everybody in that airplane that I'm no ATC controller, I'd have directed that last American airplane around the most circuitous route over the airport after getting that response :P

[@MikeK2100]

I actually found this funny and representative of human nature. Got top love the airport fire fighters and those vehicles reach speeds of up to 80 miles an hour, but with the amount of water they carry are prone to tipping and also hard to stop. Also if they decide to get going, very hard to see what is going on. Really great takes Kelsey. My favorite camping trips was PAX NAS, especially if we had a pilot as the liaison officer, because you not only got a great tour of the airport, you also got personal information and even training so you really developed a great picture of what aviation practices are occurring.

[@badlandskid]

Pilot: I didn't mess up, you did. ATC: find your pen and paper, I got a phone number for you to jot down... 🤭

[@keithbird8910]

Exactly. I imagine that pilot would be having a "conversation" shorlty after disembarking.

[@marionwoodward5186]

, trust me flying into Houston was always nerve-racking. Thank you for acknowledging that.

[@hsbvt]

Great video as always! Thanks, Kelsey! Have a great week everyone!

[@danielruth3804]

Love, love love these videos Kelsey! Not a pilot, just a little aviation geek and I really appreciate your insight into the videos you post. Keep 'em coming!

[@Timbrock1000]

A year or so ago, a passenger in a United Airlines plane spotted a massive fuel leak when peering out the window. The plane was preparing to depart when the two passengers, a newly wed couple spotted fuel gushing out of the wing, and onto the tarmac. They notified the crew, and the plane returned to the terminal. The flight was cancelled, yet USL acted grateful for their actions. The other passengers were given free hotel vouchers for the night, but UAL abandoned the couple, gave them no voucher, and left them to stay in the terminal overnight.

[@quep1]

Tarmac -> ramp

[@csorfab]

What the fuck? Why does a major airline act like a 5 year old child?

[@Timbrock1000]

@@csorfab UAL retaliated on them for posting it on Facebook

[@aviatortrucker6198]

There’s always some jackass that has to tick off a controller for the rest of us and make the other pilots deal with someone who gets cranky on the tower.

[@kd5nrh]

I thought the main point of setting up for ILS in most situations was that you can instantly switch from ILS to visual at any time if needed, but not so much the other way around. Plus it's just the easiest way to trim down the task list and let everybody have a chance to double check all the critical stuff while Otto does the grunt work for a minute.

[@sophiamarchildon3998]

Ah yes, Mr. Otto Pilot.

[@greenkwaka]

thats literally what he said though.

[@ChiIeboy]

Controllers "sitting in" while a pilot is in the simulator is a GENIUS idea. I hope it's implemented and I hope you are recognized for that suggestion. Keep up the great work, Kelsey. P.S. I hope the 'tug driver' in _your_ incident was recognized for taking the time to alert you of the "water" pouring out of your engine. Small effort with potentially big consequences.

[@stevehoffere5229]

As a Rochester NY resident, I have a fun fact about Rochester "International" Airport. There are two flights a week that go to Toronto, Canada giving Rochester's Airport an International status. Toronto is 96 miles by air from Rochester.

[@robertlucht4657]

Back on September 9, 1982, There was a plane crash of a Mitsubishi MU-2 at Haden Airport in Colorado. All on board were killed. To show how very small mistakes can become so important, the Pilot made a mistake and stayed on Denver control instead of monitoring UNICOM for the uncontrolled airport. Because of that, he could not hear several other pilots telling him that one of his turbines was clearly not functioning the way it should. He took off, one of the turbines failed, and the p-factor pulled him over and into the ground.

[@5153flash]

He definitely told him to hold short of Q. The pilot repeated it. And then the pilot went past Q

[@tirsden]

I was so confused because the readback was correct, and taxi instructions confuse me pretty quickly (I'm not a pilot or anything, have just watched a fair share of ATC-related videos including Airforceproud96's hilarity). Since the readback was the same as the instructions, I knew either the tower or the pilot had screwed up, and the visual overlay solidified that it was the pilot.

[@garyb8528]

Loved this video Kelsey. Thank you

[@scottchristie]

My concern and anxiety during this emergency would not be running out of fuel (unless the guages said starvation was imminent, haha the red light goes on) it would be the fuel catching fire and being the pilot of a raging fireball...

[@catabaticanabatic3800]

Aside from the distance to get to you by the fire trucks, stopping on an active runway will ensure that if any fire breaks out, it will be blown toward the rear of your aircraft rather than across the fuselage as per in Manchester (I think) where 55 people died because the aircraft turned off onto a taxi way thus ensuring that escape routes were engulfed by flames. A major lesson was learned( at a vast cost) about how to handle fires on the ground.

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

The pilot in that last clip, I have a feeling the next comm traffic was "grab a pen and take down this number..."

[@peterclancy3653]

I was fifo and flew out of Perth WA. I was sitting right at the back in a Dash8 and as we were taxing out I noticed liquid leaking from the port engine cowling . It had been raining so I thought it might be water. As the thrust came up the flow increased so I informed the cabin crew member sitting just behind me and she called the pilots. By this time time the plane had rotated so the pilots levelled out and did a circuit and landed again. The plane parked on a taxiway and was surrounded by fire trucks for about 2 hours before it was towed back to the terminal. I think the pilots noticed the fuel leak as they became airborne because their response was very quick. I was told later that a ferrule nut had cracked causing the leak.

[@pocdabeno1974]

Awesome video and funny interaction between ATC and Pilot at the end. When are we going to see a fourth stripe on those epaulettes?

[@joerepoman1]

I was the 1,000 “ like” my life is complete. I want to thank the other 999 before me that made this moment possible. I’ve been striving for a decade now trying endlessly day and night for this very moment. Thank you to all my fans and I couldn’t have done this without you. Wooooooo

[@hervedeturmeny8757]

Had a fuel leak once which was brought up by a passenger who took a picture of a « contrail » coming out of the left wing. The vent valve had frozen solid and the safety valve opened as it is designed to do. We shut the engine down immediately after landing and the fire crew escorted us with the finger on the trigger.

[@ChristopherDimitriousPhanara]

Hey! Kelsey!!! so good to see you again. Good stuff bro!😁

[@mikeletaurus4728]

Kelsey, you're such a naturally nice guy. Some woman is/was/will be lucky to have you in her life.

[@patrickspeaight9154]

thank you, your explanation of the tasks, which need to be accomplished, when the situation changes, was remarkably clear, and highly interesting. Thank you, Patrick, Northamptonshire, uk

[@misaeltejada6239]

And it goes for pilots too. Once in a while visit one of the ATC facilities so that you can get a better perspective of what controllers deal with. Controllers, for the most part know that when theres an emergency that the pilots are busy and so, we only ask questions we need answers too. Souls on board, fuel, and type of emergency is a must, controllers need to know this thats why they ask, “when you are able”. Lastly, just like the workload increases for the crew, the controllers workload doubles. You see, theres a good chance thats not the only A/C on frequency and so, they cannot ignore the other twenty planes. There are multiple frequencies controllers monitors and so we have other pilots trying to talk while they are dealing with and emergency. Controllers, have to do coordinating with other controllers, supervisors asking questions, we have to answer land lines and at the same time open the way for this emergency A/C and so, yes, this video is good because it gives you a perspective of what the pilots go thru but just remember that controllers are just as busy.

[@ShireIO]

I was waiting for the "Hold short of runway 25R and I'll have a number for you to call"

[@jefflynch3946]

I just love your videos. I am not a pilot but I often am a passenger. Thank you for your great videos.

[@aserta]

I heard a story from someone who is on the deck a lot about how one of these squirts somehow ignited and was basically like a piss of fire shooting from the engine pod. So they can be quite dangerous if that happened spontaneously (if it didn't catch fire from something else around it).

[@Digitalhunny]

Suggestion/request? Have you given any thought to ending your videos with a look out of your different hotel windows? After you're finished filming your video, swing that camera around & show us your view.🤞(If you do it _after_ filming, you don't have to worry about lighting, focus & angles.) Yeah, _even_ if your view is of a parking lot, a brick wall or completely fogged out. Show us, _please?_ This way _we_ can feel like we're there with you. Getting see where you are in the world & what you get to look at during your various layovers. LOVE your channel, thanks for being you. 💕💕

[@Emptybee]

Kelsey used to do that. He was asked to stop because the airline didn't want the Internet to know where their aircrews were staying. A shame, but I can understand their concerns.

[@Digitalhunny]

@@Emptybee Ah, shucks. Thank you SO much for the update! XO

[@Benjalot90]

i have to watch to the end just to see the grin 🙂 and to hear "ceep the blue side up. i just love it 🤩

[@GirlBaritone]

I'm actually from Rochester where the fuel leak happened, this is the exact opposite of an enviable situation for the people involved but I became very interested as soon as I heard the word "Rochester" 😅

[@wardog6695]

Other awy to think when you have comfirmed fuel leak is - make as less of a heat as you can (brake less hard so the brake are less likly to ignite the leaking fuel if it reaces the brakes area). In the Airforce (F-16s) we are not allowed to refuel the plane if the brakes are hother then X degrees (I don't recall the exact number- it's written in the manual).

[@JamesF0790]

I'm wondering if the pilot heard "Hold short AT/ON Quebec" instead of "Hold short of Quebec". He interpreted it as holding short of the runway at the Quebec holding point?

[@jelmerterburg3588]

"Hold short ON Quebec" would be a meaningless phrase, as it does not give you any information about where on the entire taxiway Quebec you'd have to stop. In that case, they would have said "Hold short of runway XX". Also, they did not get an instruction to turn onto taxiway Quebec to begin with.

[@JamesF0790]

@@jelmerterburg3588 I’m not saying he’s right. I’m just saying that like Kelsey said he was expecting to receive crossing instructions. Confirmation bias is a thing and in the context of expecting a runway crossing it lines up. He clearly was wrong, I’m just suggesting what he might have thought.

[@Emptybee]

Really the issue isn't that he got confused about where to hold, the issue is that when corrected he got belligerent. Everyone makes mistakes and, at the end of the day, it didn't matter right then whether it was the pilot or the controller who screwed up. The problem just needed to be fixed. Arguing about who said what wasn't helpful and wouldn't have been even if the pilot was correct.

[@JamesF0790]

​@@Emptybee Oh I 100% agree. I was just wondering if that was what just happened.

[@AlaiMacErc]

@@Emptybee I think the extra belligerence and confusion is partly from the "now I want you to go to the end of Hotel" part, which he hadn't previously been told, and which he'd been assuming he _wouldn't_ be doing -- wrongly. So he's now thinking the ATC had "messed up" not telling him that (which the ATC had no need to, of course, and maybe that hadn't been determined previously) -- and was blaming him for not knowing that, whereas he was actually just getting some mild snark about having "cheated the lights" at Quebec.

[@manueloc1]

@74gear YOU have to watch the OS94 From Washington, it had to call Mayday (engine failure) and ATC asks them 10000 Question's and disturb the pilots alot. ATC even didn't accept a standby.

[@kenbrown2808]

the response I've been taught to give for situations like that is "little busy right now!"

[@manueloc1]

@@kenbrown2808 yeah I think the pilot's tried to help ATC but ATc was not helping the pilots in this case

[@sirmonkey1985]

sounds more like an inexperienced controller that pulled out the emergency book and just started reading down the list because that's what they were taught to do in training.

[@andy-ally]

What if fire starts because you used max auto or manual brake and fuel got on those hot brakes? Is it possible? :)

[@kenbrown2808]

in consideration, the bigger risk from fuel getting on the brakes would be losing brake performance. liquid jet fuel takes quite a bit of heat to ignite, so unless you had a brake fire without the fuel, the most likely result of getting fuel on the brakes would be making the brakes and tires slippery.

[@andy-ally]

@@kenbrown2808 , sounds reasonable. Even though JET A1 autoignition temparature is as low as 210C and brakes easily reach that temperature during landing, you made good point of taking time for fuel to reach this temperature. But I guess it's hard for fuel to get on brakes while still rolling on high speed due to fuel flowing back, so I was considering fuel getting on hot brakes after stopping only :)

[@kenbrown2808]

@@andy-ally with a liquid jet fuel spill, it would be likely the fuel would cool the brakes faster than the brakes could vaporize the fuel. on a really hot day (above the 38-52 C degrees flash point of jet fuel) it might be worse, but remember, the flashpoint of avgas is -46C

[@Guitarmankw]

It wasn't me it was you.....LOL! Pilot sounded like Stuart from In Living Color.

[@joshuapatrick682]

I'm genuinely surprised that ATC doesn't have some form of cockpit simulator training.

[@mandowarrior123]

Break wise, your answer should've been "I was concerned about autoignition from the brakes heating up" obviously from a fuel leak and not a fire, so this may have been their logic.

[@charliesierra9430]

If we wouldn't have been laughing in the tower cab, I would have written that AA smart-ass for a taxiway incursion. 🤨🤣

[@EannaButler]

10:56 - that's a great idea Kelsey! 👍

[@blackmagemasher4031]

Thank you for the videos, always a fun watch

[@californiakayaker]

Kelsey, you took a boring situation and turned it into complete entertainment. Thanks.

[@Misteribel]

Alt title: pilots arguing with ATC like kids on a playground.

[@klford9499]

Hey Kelsey! I love how positive and happy you are. You seem like a good guy. Keep doing you boo!!💞👍👍👍

[@munky123jw]

Who landed the dreamlifter at the wrong airport?

[@Jimorian]

That was 9 years ago.

[@munky123jw]

@@Jimorian people want to hear the story about it.

[@nielswil]

I use to work as a bagagehandler and one time i was loading a plane (737) i heard the sound which i never heard before and it was a fuel leak. I first warned fuel guy that he had to stop and then i needed to warn the loading officer (i don't know how to say this in English but he was the guy how gave us all the info we needed to load (or unload) a plane. It took 3 hours to finish the job.

[@turtle_taylor]

Love your point about stopping sooner, but would hot brakes be a problem with a fuel leak?

[@captainleonardodivichi295]

I would think maybe they would have some sorta censor now that would let you know even on the smallest case of leaking

[@ASRivers]

Wish there was a way for pilots to see back at the wings/engines when there’s potential trouble there. Maybe help identify what the emergency is.

[@seeker296]

Another banger. Ty again

[@DaCatmasterX]

Having played ms flight sim it is much more fun watching your videos cause I understand some of the terms.

[@lukeorlando4814]

While the fire trucks getting to you is faster is a more valid point. The farther you roll, the more runway you contaminate with leaked fuel. Fuel is slippery and I would expect the runway will need throughout cleaning before it’s going to be safe to land a plane behind you

[@wesgregg6451]

It's good to hear "I'm not sure if you're able to do that right now" following a request for information by ATC. That phrase may have indirectly saved lives over the years.

[@SkyCharger001]

Not from personal experience, but I've heard of some emergencies where to reduce the pressure Pilot Monitoring had to deal with the Chief Flight Attendant was called to the cockpit to serve as an Auxiliary Flight Engineer.

[@henrimichelpierreplana4332]

Hey Kelsey. You appeared in Maximus Aviation channel the other day, well you photo did.

[@iron0xide974]

The reason extra fuel is not added is to prevent a hard landing. Or to do a fuel dump. Some extra is always added.

[@finaltouchautodetailingllc]

I do enjoy watching your videos. Thanks for making them

[@noxprsn]

I always forget how good your videos are.

[@CFHuss]

"We're bad at monitoring things." ...huh? signed, an airline pilot that can monitor things. That's our job dude.

[@stevengill1736]

The guy might have thought your leak was water Kelsey, because of the condensed water that sprays out of the wingtips sometimes. The time I saw it, I asked the attendant if we were dumping fuel for some reason - she explained how water can gather and then vent as you're landing. Of course the quantity pouring out and the location of the leak in this instance would have scared the heck out of me! As always kudos to ATC and pilots, who almost always display grace under pressure - even when it's all their fault... ;*[} Cheers

[@knighttuttrup]

So many variables, very educational.

[@kathylynch9732]

Oh man, I wanted to hear the rest of the argument! "I didn't mess up. You did!"

[@markfrister8417]

Was on flight from Anchorage to Barrow. As we passed by Mt. McKinley, I noticed hydraulic fluid streaking fron the front to back of wing in a streak about 10" wide. I motioned to the flight attendant who took a look. This was a 737-200 Cargo conversion. She said, " It's OK, the pilots have an oil gauge in the cockpit" Not very reassuring when your watching mtn. climbers next to you at 18,000 ft . Comments?