Massive Problem At YouTube...

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SomeOrdinaryGamers

SomeOrdinaryGamers

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@SomeOrdinaryGamers
@SomeOrdinaryGamers 2 жыл бұрын
Use code "SOG" at www.gfuel.com Check out the Newest Podcast episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWmqgX5qZ5l7fLM
@urlocaleshay
@urlocaleshay 2 жыл бұрын
yuuuur
@Mr.Miniguy
@Mr.Miniguy 2 жыл бұрын
Bots? EDIT: Just watched the video Cory made... he's right
@Lamiishere
@Lamiishere 2 жыл бұрын
Cringe af……
@twistedadjust
@twistedadjust 2 жыл бұрын
G sups
@Erick-yq1dw
@Erick-yq1dw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Miniguy no bots
@BusinessCasual
@BusinessCasual 2 жыл бұрын
First it was Act Man... then it was Cory, and now yours truly (thank you for the shout out btw!). KZbin is almost asking for another platform to challenge it as the world's only video website. One day, it will be dethroned. This madness needs to end.
@JoThNoMi
@JoThNoMi 2 жыл бұрын
i hope it happens right now.
@kailenpiardi2721
@kailenpiardi2721 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized ive seen some of your great videos best of luck
@gerbo8018
@gerbo8018 2 жыл бұрын
problem is almost no creators go to the alternative websites. Except people who are into politics as youtube really hates politics.
@dakat5131
@dakat5131 2 жыл бұрын
@@gerbo8018 The "You can post anything here, we have no rules" sites tend to attract the people who got kicked off more mainstream sites for a good reason (harassment, hostility, etc). And then when the rest of the people hears about it they (understandably) don't want to share a site with that crowd.
@trevorclinton5692
@trevorclinton5692 2 жыл бұрын
@@dakat5131 what a weak mindset.
@Bread-nx9fo
@Bread-nx9fo 2 жыл бұрын
It's depressing how nothing on KZbin ever EVER changes unless people openly complain about it on other platforms that aren't KZbin. Really shows you that they don't care about their creators unless public opinion is with them.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
This person above me is a internet troll spammer to get attention. Do not reply to them btw.
@kassandraofodyssey6475
@kassandraofodyssey6475 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperAgentAB Him/her is a bit wordy, why not just use "them"? Or "it" because I don't think that account is ran by a human.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
@@kassandraofodyssey6475 hmm ok. Edit: there, it's edited... thanks ig?
@Vinni-2K
@Vinni-2K 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperAgentAB you just did tho
@attache675
@attache675 2 жыл бұрын
It really is said, it’s like Twitter is the middle man for KZbin and that’s the only good thing to come from such a toxic POS platform like Twitter. Even then it’s wildly inconsistent just like the garbage policy team of YT.
@TheClick
@TheClick 2 жыл бұрын
the only time I had an age gate appealed was about 2 years ago, when they still specified which guideline it got age-gated on. I could then cut out the 1 piece of the video I knew contained it, appealed, and got it back Dealing with the same thing right now on a new video, but no specification. Appeal rejected in 7 minutes on a 23 min video
@sberky98
@sberky98 2 жыл бұрын
hi clicky papi
@ImaPizzaK
@ImaPizzaK 2 жыл бұрын
@@sberky98 i regret accidentally clicking on your channel
@jomiplayz7880
@jomiplayz7880 2 жыл бұрын
Man I really feel so sorry for you 😭
@Jacket_355
@Jacket_355 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Click, remember how KZbin wasn't a joke, back then when you did the Amnesia montages .... gold age 🙁
@deonx262
@deonx262 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Click, saw your vid on this topic and really sorry that you had to go through shite like that
@alexoxo1
@alexoxo1 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when KZbin allowed child abuse videos to show up in KZbin kids somehow with no consequences but when Muta covered it HE is the one that got penalized
@Darek_B52
@Darek_B52 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin has standards....double standards.
@acdcking1234
@acdcking1234 2 жыл бұрын
Double standards suck 😡
@aruce9
@aruce9 2 жыл бұрын
I have noticed that seems to be a trend when somebody brings up a problem their videos get taken down while the problematic videos do not get taken down.
@AmanDeep-hi8vg
@AmanDeep-hi8vg 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darek_B52 like women?
@freedomdude5420
@freedomdude5420 2 жыл бұрын
And just remember coppa doesn’t protect children, it hurts them be snuffing out independent news reporters that are exposing scandals involving pedophiles and stopping honest conversations about this dangerous subject, secretly promoting, pedo thought, saying exposing pedophilia makes you a bully, call it bully love.
@alexoxo1
@alexoxo1 2 жыл бұрын
So glad that KZbin can’t escape this and everyone is covering it. It’s REALLY not that hard for KZbin to be transparent and just tell us what we do wrong. Especially if there’s a supposed “human” reviewing your appeals.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
They're rigged.
@rufusblue8044
@rufusblue8044 2 жыл бұрын
I bet it's a very lucrative topic
@gaymansupreme
@gaymansupreme 2 жыл бұрын
Cory isn't the only one who got the age restriction on his video, there was several other smaller content creators who got the hit by playing the game. Crazy how nobody cares about the smaller guys until their KZbin idol gets a slap on the wrist.
@lssjgaming1599
@lssjgaming1599 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just hoping they don't pull an ActMan and fuck Cory over for calling out a serious issue like this. We shouldn't need to be martyrs just to push KZbin to promoting its guidelines fairly and equally
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
Troll replies above me. Avoid the trap!
@NeneAmanoCh
@NeneAmanoCh 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I've gotten a couple of age restrictions and tons of limited monetization with no feedback from KZbin on what I'm doing wrong. I just streamed Golf with Friends and was even hit with limited monetization. I hope, like you mentioned the system can have some sort of change to give more transparency to creators.
@JameyJoeshuaOfficial
@JameyJoeshuaOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
indeed
@allseeingirene
@allseeingirene 2 жыл бұрын
You have a strong point and I hope change does come!
@pointlessrandom7619
@pointlessrandom7619 2 жыл бұрын
"Yeah, golf is violent and harmful content. Demonetize it."
@syalulu21
@syalulu21 2 жыл бұрын
How cute n lovely channel like you also got issues?? The system is broken for sure. Hope you keep content creat n grow strong for sure.
@terrykrugii5652
@terrykrugii5652 2 жыл бұрын
Nene watches Mudahar??? Holy shit
@cookien0rookie356
@cookien0rookie356 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that KZbin gives Mark more breathing room because he's said many times that he's ready to throw down with KZbin and has called them out every single time they made a mistake
@ALIMALI-gb6gl
@ALIMALI-gb6gl 2 жыл бұрын
True he's done this before with the whole critikal drama
@NicoNicoNessieSub
@NicoNicoNessieSub 2 жыл бұрын
Mark has always been willing to speak up on shit he cares about
@SpoilerAlert__
@SpoilerAlert__ 2 жыл бұрын
@YeaMan music is ass. Reported for spamming
@AgentWarfstache89
@AgentWarfstache89 2 жыл бұрын
He wants to put himself on the line and thats what he did two years ago. He can 100% do it again and throw hands at youtube
@BronsonFan111
@BronsonFan111 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I love about Mark. Sure he may be one of those who favors from being KZbin’s pick, but he doesn’t abuse that power in anyway. He’s a normal guy like the rest of us, and is willing to fight for other KZbinrs when KZbin really fucks up.
@GothicFoxglove
@GothicFoxglove 2 жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely happy that everyone is finally coming together to have a serious talk about this, because KZbin is destroying itself
@Xpectra32
@Xpectra32 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperAgentAB he already got reported
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xpectra32 as long you don't give trolls attention. You're good to go.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
@SkeloJt 800 no matter how vile they are, that's their goal.
@chucksfeeduckseeduck2652
@chucksfeeduckseeduck2652 2 жыл бұрын
@fours04 🇬🇧 whats the point of bots like this? do they hope people will click on their profile and give them views for saying stupid nonsense?
@usertakendan
@usertakendan 2 жыл бұрын
@fours04 🇬🇧 who hurt you bro
@OstinGBX
@OstinGBX 2 жыл бұрын
Also, something I want to add. Recently, KZbin made a survey for it's creators (That you can check on your KZbin Studio). A lot of these questions in the survey is related to the topic of this video in some way, and I noticed that the question being asked was somehow trying to manipulate you into thinking that KZbin is a good platform and is definitely a safe and cares about it's creators. One specific question says "What is your reaction when you heard/read a bad comment about KZbin" (I wrote this by memory, so correct me if I'm wrong), and I kid you not one of the checklist litterally says "I would be mad and angrily comments on them". Never have I been that angry when I filled a survey.
@Esplin6296
@Esplin6296 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin is a shit platform and I feel like the biggest/only video platform so they doing whatever they wanf
@sacra_456
@sacra_456 2 жыл бұрын
utterly disgusting
@nobodyofknowhere973
@nobodyofknowhere973 2 жыл бұрын
LMAOOO can anything be any more pathetic?
@etaidade3983
@etaidade3983 2 жыл бұрын
what were the other options for that question?
@iwillgetayorkie3262
@iwillgetayorkie3262 2 жыл бұрын
So horrible. KZbin is so corrupt
@Skylar_T
@Skylar_T 2 жыл бұрын
This problem along with the bots. Yeah, KZbin has to seriously shape their shit up soon. I seriously hope something happens to correct both issues on this platform.
@sandianexpress1198
@sandianexpress1198 2 жыл бұрын
youtubers should unionize
@Snoop_Dugg
@Snoop_Dugg 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandianexpress1198 This. 1000% Switch to another platform. Move all your videos at the same time. The biggest youtubers have patreon. They don't depend on youtube's money to survive.
@sandianexpress1198
@sandianexpress1198 2 жыл бұрын
@@Snoop_Dugg that too but either the other services require you to pay money(like Vimeo) or people don’t know.
@randomplaceinruralamerica9618
@randomplaceinruralamerica9618 2 жыл бұрын
@@Snoop_Dugg they do depend on KZbin’s platform though, it has a monopoly on the video industry, just like how twitch has a grip on streaming and is only being challenged by KZbin Live now after years of being the only one KZbin can keep doing shit like this because they know they’re the best option. It fucking sucks that they can just let the platform go to shit without any regard for it.
@antwanmitchell6267
@antwanmitchell6267 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t relate
@MynameisBrianZX
@MynameisBrianZX 2 жыл бұрын
Also worth mentioning that Cory has explicitly said he was open to any other explanation for why youtube's moderation is unfair to his channel. I see some criticizing him that he doesn't have enough evidence to make such a big accusation, but youtube's lack of transparency is a big reason for why there's not much evidence, and that's not his fault. All he knows is that his channel is getting unfairly penalized at the worst times, and from all his efforts to communicate with youtube, he has gotten no plausible or consistent responses. All he can do is piece together his personal perspective of youtube to make a guess, and he clearly has the humility to accept if his guess turns out to be wrong and this issue could be solved another way.
@mariomario1462
@mariomario1462 2 жыл бұрын
That's not how evidence works. "I don't know therefore racism" and abusing that word only makes u look like an idiot
@nawbro9156
@nawbro9156 2 жыл бұрын
I hate how the actual good comments get pushed to the bottom, where the generic positive comments that contribute nothing are pushes to the top.
@VeniVizzleVici
@VeniVizzleVici 2 жыл бұрын
Muh racism.
@j.jbinks9669
@j.jbinks9669 2 жыл бұрын
"All he knows is that his channel is getting unfairly penalized..." So he immediately cried racism? Big claim + no proof = Why should I believe?
@whateverkat8122
@whateverkat8122 2 жыл бұрын
@@nawbro9156 Ikr lmao
@boyishmistakes
@boyishmistakes 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never forget when YT went around age restricting and blocking lgbt+’s coming out stories Then went around spouting about how important pride was. YT absolutely has biases and it’s way of dealing with this stuff has always been disingenuous and doing whatever makes them look good. They don’t care about the actual creators unless it hurts them. I’m glad big creators are calling this out more because it’s honestly ridiculous atp. Like they have to see there’s an on going problem that NEEDS to be addressed.
@shame2189
@shame2189 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh my other comment got removed, I said “Queer” but I don’t mean it in a bad way sorry lol. What I was trying to say is I’m not lgbt but I can imagine having access to videos of people talking about how they came out is DETRIMENTAL to a questioning kid’s personal growth, it’s absolutely baffling they’re trying to keep them from that!
@j.jbinks9669
@j.jbinks9669 2 жыл бұрын
They should carry on blocking alphabet videos, sick of seeing groomers making noncey videos
@TorutheRedFox
@TorutheRedFox 2 жыл бұрын
@Tabitha Cakes they actually don't have that much control there's been cases of people just submitting entire movies as unskippable ads and they got shown to people
@ACGreviews
@ACGreviews 2 жыл бұрын
I am at 44 appeals with no success and most videos having no nudity, violence or cussing. 4th month where I lost money on the channel.
@maineman5757
@maineman5757 2 жыл бұрын
I love your Walking the Walks! I hope KZbin stops this nonsense soon!
@funsizedxo
@funsizedxo 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@helloworld2784
@helloworld2784 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me about the guy with 2M subs but 5k average views per video, so he decided to make content for facebook instead.
@-ChainChomp
@-ChainChomp 2 жыл бұрын
Used to watch Coryxkenshin back when he made those “Ao-Oni” videos. Pretty cool to see him still growing and still making videos.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
Ok the troll replies are gone but that doesn't mean is not over yet. Remember to avoid the other trollers on the internet.
@gaymansupreme
@gaymansupreme 2 жыл бұрын
​@@SuperAgentAB Quiet down.
@Darek_B52
@Darek_B52 2 жыл бұрын
Only "problem" with him is the long breaks. Ssethtzeentach has a faster upload schedule.
@Kappy25
@Kappy25 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darek_B52 I kinda like the long breaks. That way when he uploads it’s super exciting.
@Ithurtssobad
@Ithurtssobad 2 жыл бұрын
Cory doesn't need to grow. It's actually unfair how much attention he gets despite leaving. There's plenty of channels out there that need growth, but if they left for whatever reason it would ruin them.
@satoro26
@satoro26 2 жыл бұрын
The appeal system is like that old meme, a picture of paper shredder with "complain box" written on it.
@dominicfox101
@dominicfox101 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, i feel pretty bad for cory, hes been a good sport with youtube and they just find random shit to throw at him and say he did something wrong. its a pretty miserable situation overall and i wish cory the best in this
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
Do not respond to a troll reply above me. Doing so will make them spam more comments.
@twistedadjust
@twistedadjust 2 жыл бұрын
I hate this situation very good point from Cory ♥️ this is some KZbin crap
@adankmeme651
@adankmeme651 2 жыл бұрын
bot in the replies
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
@@adankmeme651 correct, it's reply above you xD.
@sandianexpress1198
@sandianexpress1198 2 жыл бұрын
youtubers should unionise
@yo25999
@yo25999 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin and Twitch getting attacked for double standards. Love it.
@ttskyhammer9169
@ttskyhammer9169 2 жыл бұрын
But tolerastic assholes will deny double standard, saying "this was created by white assholes"
@xZero9Ox
@xZero9Ox 2 жыл бұрын
It's not double standards though, it's just a faulty algorithm.
@rayyanchowdhury8306
@rayyanchowdhury8306 2 жыл бұрын
@@xZero9Ox Twitch is known for favoritism their human moderation team is the perfect example of it
@xZero9Ox
@xZero9Ox 2 жыл бұрын
I'm specifically talking about KZbin since this issue being covered is a KZbin issue.
@n0odles86
@n0odles86 2 жыл бұрын
@@xZero9Ox oh you sweet summer child
@sundalosketch4769
@sundalosketch4769 2 жыл бұрын
The thought annoys me that there could be a possibility that YT will attempt once again to make some "big" change just to shut everyone up for them to eventually get back to their secretive ways of inner workings. We need more transparency and communication from them. They should OWE CCs explanations onto what exactly was done wrong. Saying "You did something bad, you figure out what you did by yourself" is such an "abusive partner" shtick that i'm surprised we let it last this long.
@RobinLundqvist
@RobinLundqvist 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin has been a complete bitch when it comes to enforcement of their rules in recent years. Just ignoring all criticism and continuing their absolute garbage pile algorithm system. With that being said, I'm happy they're treating somebody unfairly that did absolutely everything in their power to stay away from trouble. I can tell youtube has just exposed themselves.
@sandianexpress1198
@sandianexpress1198 2 жыл бұрын
then you should watch the business casual video. It shows how scummy youtube is
@Tyler-jd3ex
@Tyler-jd3ex 2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty shitty, I understand it can be extremely difficult to run a giant platform like KZbin but it is a shame how badly managed it is.
@jewelsofjuly7377
@jewelsofjuly7377 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin just f_cks anyone who they dont like it doesn't matter who they are they do anything they feel like
@icet8915
@icet8915 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me happy to see so many people rally behind CxK, he legitimately comes off as a wholesome guy. It was actually Cory's video that he posted before he went on hiatus that prompted me to start trying to learn video editing. My videos still suck, but I'm still practicing, it'd be so cool to be a full time KZbinr.
@river559
@river559 2 жыл бұрын
He really is. Dude does nothing but great things. 100% someone I could just vibe with
@n0odles86
@n0odles86 2 жыл бұрын
He's one of the few youtubers I let my young teens watch
@NotJpTem
@NotJpTem 2 жыл бұрын
well, maybe not a full time youtuber. youtube will fuck you over. I'd say wait until youtube falls and another, better video service comes up. that's what I'm doing at least.
@ryotarodojima2556
@ryotarodojima2556 2 жыл бұрын
You’ll get there man. Keep going. Ill watch n like all ya shit as long as you show me that ya aint giving up
@skitariisoldier7367
@skitariisoldier7367 2 жыл бұрын
The creator who cried wolf. The "racism" card is so overplayed at this point that I can't believe you or anyone else who claims it. Part of a protected group and having a problem these days? Just yell "racism!" and the woke mob will be ready to do whatever you ask.
@Faust_YT
@Faust_YT 2 жыл бұрын
That's the main problem with KZbin, they won't explain what you did wrong based on their guidelines that are as vague as it can be. And they don't want to work with you if you're not on the favorite list.
@unknownvariable9239
@unknownvariable9239 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I feel like Cory is one of the most advertiser friendly KZbinrs. He censors all cuss words and rarely curses himself. He’s also probably one of the most positive personalities on the sight. The only problem is that he takes 9 month breaks every now and then. It’s really weird how he gets treated differently by KZbin.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
Watch out! Troll reply above me!!!
@maineman5757
@maineman5757 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone report the racist spam comments!
@berzerkRU
@berzerkRU 2 жыл бұрын
The breaks he doin is Positive and needs it
@eldenscrub2959
@eldenscrub2959 2 жыл бұрын
Careful bot alert at the top
@charliemurdergoat12369
@charliemurdergoat12369 2 жыл бұрын
he doesnt cuss lol. he has moments where it sounds like it but never been a single cuss word out his mouth publicly
@TheFlamingGamerYT
@TheFlamingGamerYT 2 жыл бұрын
It sucks that youtube doesn’t do much unless some people with larger communities call them out/critique them. It really shouldn’t take that for KZbin to actively do something about it, especially with the weird age restriction that for some reason only affected Cory when he played The Morturary, but it’s a sad reality that it is this way. Really hope KZbin does something to fix this, but I’m lowkey about it to be honest. Of course I still want to hope KZbin actually does something to fix it
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
This reply above me is made by an internet troll spammer bot that seeks for attention.
@Steven-fj1jx
@Steven-fj1jx 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for all the low life bot channels to show up
@Joe_blow121
@Joe_blow121 2 жыл бұрын
*i’m better than Instagram user because I’m white and his grandma is dead lmoa* 😀🤓
@I_quit_trolling_now
@I_quit_trolling_now 2 жыл бұрын
I’M BETTER THAN MUTA
@Joe_blow121
@Joe_blow121 2 жыл бұрын
@@I_quit_trolling_now *I just exposed kavetion on my channel where I make better content because his grandma’s dead l+ratio* 🤓
@psyboyo
@psyboyo 2 жыл бұрын
This video is now on my "DO NO EVIL" playlist, where I save crap like this from KZbin, for example: "Children's Recitals EXPLOITED by Music Publishers" "Community contributions are going away" "Non-Fair Use Countries Threaten the Entire Platform" "KZbin doesn't want you to have to see my "disturbing" disabled body" "The Assassination of JCS - Criminal Psychology"
@mirkelam0
@mirkelam0 2 жыл бұрын
JCS GOT ASSASD?
@psyboyo
@psyboyo 2 жыл бұрын
@@mirkelam0 Yeah, but the channel, not the guy! It's a really sad story thou, his videos inspired dozens of new channels, and only his was the one destroyed by KZbin.
@mirkelam0
@mirkelam0 2 жыл бұрын
@@psyboyo yeah man I know the vids getting taken down and stuff but I thought the guy was gone lol. still sad tho
@Romanticoutlaw
@Romanticoutlaw 2 жыл бұрын
I like how youtube's customer support is just going through other social media and kicking up as loud of a fuss as you can. Really optimal
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine having to do that with anything else. Having you use your kid's Bebo account to tell the headmaster to stop the bullying students and teachers going after said account holder. They didn't listen in real life when the parents were going there on a weekly, they're not going to listen because they're not even really on Bebo???
@Snoop_Dugg
@Snoop_Dugg 2 жыл бұрын
It isn't even customer support. KZbinr's/video creators are essentially employees. They deserve worker protections and rights.
@swishdjr
@swishdjr 2 жыл бұрын
it sucks when u don’t have clout too, i had a channel with 40,000 subs just reposting memes. got 3 strikes on my videos and i tried to appeal but it got denied. meanwhile reaction channels reacted to it and they get to stay up. It was the flipagram roast compilation that i uploaded.
@sleepspacee
@sleepspacee 2 жыл бұрын
@@Snoop_Dugg no they do not, they're external 3rd party.
@flyingstonemon3564
@flyingstonemon3564 2 жыл бұрын
Really fair for users speaking other languages or who don't have social media accounts
@schrodingersgat4344
@schrodingersgat4344 2 жыл бұрын
It's possible that someone up there just (flat out) doesn't like him. Personal bias is a thing.
@IREQUIREFLESH
@IREQUIREFLESH 2 жыл бұрын
@@calloxion2901 don't remember him saying it's ok to do that.
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 2 жыл бұрын
@@IREQUIREFLESH He didn't. Because it's not OK to do that, but it's clearly what someone is doing.
@simonriley983
@simonriley983 2 жыл бұрын
Bro what are these replies 🥴
@robertonome2448
@robertonome2448 2 жыл бұрын
samething with Pyro at twitch tbh. The level of transparency of these companies "moderation" and "policies" is absolutely laughable
@zenixkiryu
@zenixkiryu 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertonome2448 Twitch has always been a circus with obvious bias though. KZbin is just bipolar af. It may one day recommend your incredible work and get it trending, then the next it will ban you within 12 seconds of starting a stream.
@nextirious6828
@nextirious6828 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin really needs to be humbled, without great content creators to give this platform substance, it simply wouldn’t exist, I’ve said it before and I will say it again, KZbin is NOTHING without the people who dedicate time and effort towards making content.
@ClowDelion
@ClowDelion 2 жыл бұрын
There should be an alternative to all this. My vid wasnt even uploaded when I got my restriction..
@sethboyle90
@sethboyle90 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin hads gone a done way for a long time, the copyright system, bots, all that. KZbin is getting worse and worse. I miss the old KZbin where you can make whatever you want and even swear. Nowadays you cant
@WatcherKoops4677
@WatcherKoops4677 2 жыл бұрын
profit and platform being open as "TV" has gone too far
@derrickmiles5240
@derrickmiles5240 2 жыл бұрын
They had to end racism. Remember when they ended racism? That was great.
@AshnSilvercorp
@AshnSilvercorp 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickmiles5240 I remember a dancing building from New York.
@JohnTheDude
@JohnTheDude 2 жыл бұрын
2024: Where youtube ends. 2025: where youtube ends.
@ZoomerNostalgia
@ZoomerNostalgia 2 жыл бұрын
"hads gone a done way?"
@BLDSHDRXD
@BLDSHDRXD 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s hope KZbin doesn’t pull the classic KZbin “apology” relating to this situation.
@alexoxo1
@alexoxo1 2 жыл бұрын
Has KZbin ever made an apology to anything
@Kappy25
@Kappy25 2 жыл бұрын
@fours04 🇬🇧 Did you just discover the n word or something? Why you using it in *e v e r y s i n g l e c o m m e n t* ?
@devilpigeon7242
@devilpigeon7242 2 жыл бұрын
No one reply to the troll comments please, it just makes them spam more, all they want is attention
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
@@devilpigeon7242 facts + feel free to spread the word on the internet :) Also troll reply below me.
@Flaming_Saturn
@Flaming_Saturn 2 жыл бұрын
Susan: *long sigh*… *sits down in her chair*… *looks down, sniffles, looks back up at the camera* KZbin has always been a platform for expressing yourself-
@AtlasPro1
@AtlasPro1 2 жыл бұрын
I will say it's pretty weird that my ONLY age-restricted video just so happens to also be the only one I've ever used the term "racist" in. I always figured that's why the video got age restricted (consider the rest of it is truly harmless) despite the fact that was about all I said on the subject before moving on.
@schism15
@schism15 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is the same for all of these platforms (Facebook, Twitter, etc): trying to moderate with such a large scale of data is insanely difficult and the promised magic bullets of Machine Learning and AI aren't solving it. But they'll never admit that. It's why they have to low-key lean on human contractors who are doing additional moderation. Zuckerberg would rather sweat in front of Congress in hearings all day promising everything's under control, that once they tweak their systems everything will be fine, rather than admit that it's a problem they are failing at solving. Or he'll just change the company's name, start preaching about the Metaverse and hope you forget all about Cambridge Analytica and the Haugen leak...
@zwenkwiel816
@zwenkwiel816 2 жыл бұрын
how is it not solving it? there's a gazillion video's on this website and they're not being sued to death. that's kind of hard to pull off. ofcourse it's far from perfect but ofcourse they don't care about that cuz doing it right would cost way more money. so as long as it keeps running and that precious data and ad money keeps coming in youtube will be fine...
@Snoop_Dugg
@Snoop_Dugg 2 жыл бұрын
Because once you need to hire humans, that suddenly kills their profitability, having to pay their salary, sick leave, annual leave, training, counselling (for the traumatic videos that slip through the cracks) etc.
@chadcuckproducer1037
@chadcuckproducer1037 2 жыл бұрын
Sunk cost fallacy
@ThatControlUser
@ThatControlUser 2 жыл бұрын
There's just a lack of data to train those AI models about every possible thing they have to watch out for.
@chadcuckproducer1037
@chadcuckproducer1037 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatControlUser there isn't enough youtube videos to teach an AI? Not surprised they are having issues. When an AI (facial recognition based) was being worked on it was having problems recognizing the difference between apes and black people. Instead of fixing the issue they labotomized the AI so it couldn't recognize black people or apes.
@blueberryjollyrancher1821
@blueberryjollyrancher1821 2 жыл бұрын
I love how a good chunk of youtubers i watch, even youtubers who dont cover shit like this are covering it, its great seeing so much support for cory
@DemetriosLevi
@DemetriosLevi 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what's happening to me. After years of uploading and growing my channel it began to blow up in late February. My subscriber count went from 10 a day to 100 a day with almost every video jumping in views and then all of a sudden everything collapsed and since then my views and subs are just as before if not lower, but with only 16k subs I can seem to do anything about it. I'm really glad others are speaking out who have more influence on this platform. It seems like the time to start looking for alternative video websites
@localmenace3043
@localmenace3043 2 жыл бұрын
If there’s anyone who doesn’t deserve this BS it’s Cory. He’s one of the most wholesome creators on KZbin.
@megami215
@megami215 2 жыл бұрын
not really
@mochabearry
@mochabearry 2 жыл бұрын
@@megami215 Literally he is. Every other big KZbinr even agrees he goes above and brims what others do. Who are you, aside from a salty, envious hater? 😂
@localmenace3043
@localmenace3043 2 жыл бұрын
@@megami215 Got something to share with the class?
@zenixkiryu
@zenixkiryu 2 жыл бұрын
@@mochabearry not so much if he's gonna resort to baseless accusations of racism. I like Cory's content but he actually comes off as a bit arrogant and just proved himself no better than any ordinary person who ends up using the race card.
@QuotedPixels
@QuotedPixels 2 жыл бұрын
@@mochabearry just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion doesn't mean he's an envious hater.
@mvpmvp3861
@mvpmvp3861 2 жыл бұрын
It honestly makes me so happy that all of my favorite KZbinrs are actually speaking about and addressing this. It’s honestly scummy how much work and effort goes to you guys only to be in a situation of blatant corruption at anytime
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
This reply above me is a internet bot spammer to get attentions.
@BeachioSandschannel
@BeachioSandschannel 2 жыл бұрын
The person above me makes sense.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
The person above me is 100% true + liked reply.
@colminerojoshuab.8155
@colminerojoshuab.8155 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin when KZbinrs complain about Twitch's actions: "Hehe, what a terrible company." KZbin when KZbinrs complain about their platform: "Aight, shut up and get banned."
@japaneseambassador3562
@japaneseambassador3562 2 жыл бұрын
The wildest and most damning part of this is the age restriction, the removal of it AND THEN IT BEING PUT BACK along with age restrictions on everyone else who had that part. It's like, "OH SHIT, HE'S RIGHT" backpedal.
@TheUpCaster
@TheUpCaster 2 жыл бұрын
Im so relieved that big content creators are covering this up. Stay strong Samurai !
@TheSheepyTurtle
@TheSheepyTurtle 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THE BUSINESS CASUAL VIDEO!! It is so fishy that this was discovered, then we find other youtubers coming forward to also say "youtube's not playing with the same rules for everyone."
@ericbright1742
@ericbright1742 2 жыл бұрын
I want someone to go down the list of "Signs you're in an abusive relationship" and see how the KZbin/Creator relationship measures up.
@Boo-qg9fj
@Boo-qg9fj 2 жыл бұрын
I second this
@sethmachetedemeter
@sethmachetedemeter 2 жыл бұрын
This genuinely makes me happy that every KZbinr I watch is taking about this. Cory was the spark that ignited the flame, and now everyone is talking about this subject.
@DamiesEvilTwin
@DamiesEvilTwin 2 жыл бұрын
There's no human behind the appeals part, is the thing. I remember this from Tumblr when they decided to ban nsfw content. Not only did they immediately implement a bot algorithm to snag whatever seemed bad (including some of their own staff posts), but they apparently also deployed it for handling appeals, as I was seeing appeals get rejected 10 seconds after being sent, sometimes bouncing back immediately. There couldn't possibly be a human looking at the appeals. Even if it was over something quick to look at, like a photo, you'd still have to read the ticket and even then, people were getting rejections for pictures of cats. Unless this was an elaborate prank, punishing people for pet pics, there was definitely no people involved for a while and arguably still no involvement now. Also it's so weird that they are clearly aware you're not doing anything wrong, yet still rejected your appeal on the age-restriction. As for this poor guy, it's likely his account gets in the crosshairs every time he comes back and uploads because all the attention he pulls when he DOES. It attracts the attention of mods and bots involved in policing content. That said, there's been instances in the past where youtube seems to target poc or issues related to them. Like its handling of the political climate a few years ago, where it seemed to turn a blind eye to white supremacy and were going out of the way to "shadow ban" videos addressing racism issues. An algorithm is only as smart as the information put into it. Unfortunately, the majority of information that gets fed into these and basically any other AI is centered around a white (especially male) experience. There was that issue a while back where... I'm a lil fuzzy on it but basically law and justice AI was getting men of colour (especially black men) arrested because it kept misidentifying them as criminals, or something similar to that. Turns out the problem was that it had almost no data on anyone who wasn't white. But specifically in this case, since it's not going after every video with a black person/voice in it (as far as we know), then it seems pretty explicit there's someone or a few someones who just don't like the guy. Unless there's been some special input to the algorithm that alters it behaviour regarding certain youtubers vs others, but I feel like that'd be a lot of effort to have to undoubtedly update on a frequent basis.
@roboky101
@roboky101 2 жыл бұрын
YT could care less unless they actually start losing money. That's all there is to it. They won't care unless this stuff starts hurting their bottom line. The biggest issue is that the world is a big place and there's no real competition for YT. As long as YT is the premier video hosting service, they can do w/e they want with utter impunity.
@dizasteroid7
@dizasteroid7 2 жыл бұрын
They cant lose money. Theyre linked to a certain alphabet agency with a black budget. Susan wackjobski has a blank check from the administration.
@walterwhite4398
@walterwhite4398 2 жыл бұрын
No competition no worries for them
@Mr.X445fn
@Mr.X445fn 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if i sound like a Grammer Nazi but it's actually couldn't care less By saying could care less you imply that they have some care which they don't
@zeening
@zeening 2 жыл бұрын
because all these ghouls literally ONLY care about money and profit and jerking off their share holders with both hands, feet, mouth, anus, and ears.
@walterwhite4398
@walterwhite4398 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.X445fn dont worry about it it not like susan will give a shit about it anyway
@EnergeticGacha
@EnergeticGacha 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this problem is being addressed by big creators. I wish Cory the best in this!
@Gakusangi
@Gakusangi 2 жыл бұрын
I think Cory is specifically saying "racism" because he knows that WILL draw attention to the issue and put KZbin on the spot.
@kcatratt
@kcatratt 2 жыл бұрын
youtube has gone absolutely mental these past few years
@Avery_Da_Man
@Avery_Da_Man 2 жыл бұрын
@fours04 🇬🇧 edgelord
@ArkSucksAtGames
@ArkSucksAtGames 2 жыл бұрын
because they have no true competition. KZbin can do whatever they want really, and we have no choice but to keep using this site, as all of it's competitors have gone under.
@ValidT
@ValidT 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArkSucksAtGames Yep excluding google itself youtube is the most used website ever lol.
@icyfairlaneproductions3440
@icyfairlaneproductions3440 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@walterwhite4398
@walterwhite4398 2 жыл бұрын
@Helmet Head yep and Arthur and John are a KZbinr no matter what they plead with him to listen he just so stubborn to even listen
@jamepachitube
@jamepachitube 2 жыл бұрын
No matter what beef people have with each other on this platform. They can all come together when KZbin does something wrong and stand up against them.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
This reply below me is a troll spammer to get attention.
@stein6861
@stein6861 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a troll, man. He is just saying the truth about KZbin.
@jamepachitube
@jamepachitube 2 жыл бұрын
@@stein6861 there was a comment above him trying to promote his music, not me.
@stein6861
@stein6861 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamepachitube I know, just joking.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
@@stein6861 understandable, stay safe! Lemme edit my first reply. Edit: That outta do it.
@mikerochburns4104
@mikerochburns4104 2 жыл бұрын
You only needed to see how YT handled the whole Quantum TV vs Act Man to know that YT has serious issues. I honestly don't see myself here in a years time, what with all the legacy corporate media invading YT too.
@AshtheDragon-l4e
@AshtheDragon-l4e 2 жыл бұрын
They picked boomer media and ads vs the very thing that made KZbin grow and become the platform it is today. It will just end up like cable TV and die off sooner or later
@jamesgarner4127
@jamesgarner4127 2 жыл бұрын
My theory is KZbin can make more money from demonetizing larger channels videos here and there by placing restrictions. I believe it’s part of the ai programming to target larger channels. The video will still have KZbin generated ads that the creator will receive no compensation from. Simple scam and difficult to protest.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
Avoid the troll reply above me. Stay safe!
@BeachioSandschannel
@BeachioSandschannel 2 жыл бұрын
The person above me is the opposite of dumb.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 жыл бұрын
But the demonetization means less ads and less views, which means less money overall.
@jamesgarner4127
@jamesgarner4127 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD exactly, which in turn means all ad revenue goes to KZbin and not the creator. Large channels normally have a large and loyal subscriber base. When KZbin can demonetize a video it’s pure profit for KZbin. This might mean nothing over one or two videos but if you factor this over the millions of channels worldwide they do this to it equates to huge income.
@retr0prime_812
@retr0prime_812 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgarner4127 interesting theory…
@corazondonquixote
@corazondonquixote 2 жыл бұрын
For those complaining about the black card please watch his full video. Ngl mutahar really skimmed past it here and edited a lot of what he had to say about it out. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@AffogatoAnime
@AffogatoAnime 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I saw a lot of people close their ears and complain about it.
@Dietrich_Kaufmann
@Dietrich_Kaufmann 2 жыл бұрын
Because it’s so out of left field to claim racism while at the same time preaching it’s the AI’s fault So which is it? Depends on the narrative you want (next thing they’ll say is the AI is racist 😂)
@Dietrich_Kaufmann
@Dietrich_Kaufmann 2 жыл бұрын
There’s your answer 💁‍♂️ the “race card” is the red herring please do tell us how KZbin is being racist and site the sources please 😁
@corazondonquixote
@corazondonquixote 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dietrich_Kaufmann theyve already said ai is racist before, but mostly in fault towards the programmers. Im pretty sure there was an ai that would categorize gorillas with black people. And then there was that one twitter ai that become a naxi alt right racist 😙 its actually somewhat common i guess
@Dietrich_Kaufmann
@Dietrich_Kaufmann 2 жыл бұрын
@@corazondonquixote none of those are KZbin related 😂
@TheMightyByron
@TheMightyByron 2 жыл бұрын
The new right has been dealing with this since 2015 and especially during the pandemic. KZbin and Twitch heavily police one side. Favoritism is nothing new at these places, but thank you for pointing it out.
@WhatisReal11
@WhatisReal11 2 жыл бұрын
exactly .... try being SLIGHTLY right at all
@sashabraus9422
@sashabraus9422 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't know why KZbin doesn't show what part of a video is causing the restrictions It's getting in the same tab that lets you cut parts out of the video. I think it'd make sense and give youtube a lot less stress on reviewing it. If the bot detects something then let the youtuber have the option of cutting it out and then de-restrict the video automatically. Or they could file an appeal if they so choose.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
Do not respond to a internet troll bot that seeks for attention. As you can see the reply above me is obvious.
@walterwhite4398
@walterwhite4398 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperAgentAB I mean if it not related to the video than obviously yes it is
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
@@walterwhite4398 mhmm... just spot the obvious troll spam comments haha.
@ZeldaCDI99
@ZeldaCDI99 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperAgentAB you're more annoying than the bots
@alexoxo1
@alexoxo1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think the “human reviewer” is bs
@Furugeru
@Furugeru 2 жыл бұрын
"The dude is like a bear" has to be the most accurate shit I've ever heard about cory
@snow-bn6pn
@snow-bn6pn 2 жыл бұрын
im happy people are finally talking about this, i remember when i was a kid i would watch SML, still one of my favorite channels, and Logan would always be complaining and making jokes about being picked out and age restricted when seemingly nothing is wrong. it's always been unfair, hopefully leaders like this can do something about it after all these years.
@ghost-type
@ghost-type 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely think someone has it out for him. I don't think is racially motivated but there is definitely someone who doesn't like him at KZbin.
@NeroMai
@NeroMai 2 жыл бұрын
Blows my mind that these "reviewers" can anonymously restrict videos with little to no reason. No names, no employee numbers, no explanations... This is the quality coming from Google?
@derrickmiles5240
@derrickmiles5240 2 жыл бұрын
There could never be enough physical people reviewing content to fairly police all the content uploaded every day. Especially with all the rules they've laid down. It's definitely not racism. It's probably more to do with all the resources they spend on policing people's opinions. Every word spoken must be filtered through the liberal hivemind, and I'm not using that term lightly.
@kalystagutierrez1607
@kalystagutierrez1607 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeroMai Hey Nero! Google's "quality" has never existed, it's just a blob of red tape that's meant to ruin any and all fun/creativity
@blacklite911
@blacklite911 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickmiles5240 with the case he laid out it seems like someone could be targeting him specifically though. Could be personal
@NeroMai
@NeroMai 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalystagutierrez1607 Howdy! You've got that right :/
@ratman202
@ratman202 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't think it's racism. I think it's just KZbin being inconsistent as usual. KZbin would rather defend a homophobe like Quantum Tv (a black man) who has harassed people and abused the copyright system and instead of punishing him they will punish the Act Man just for pointing it out. Now thankfully the Act Man can now make money again but I really don't like how they still haven't punished Quantum Tv. Another example is official duck Studios. Recently they had several old videos get taken off KZbin with no explanation. And we are talking about OLD videos. 2013-2017 some even older. No conversation and no explanation from KZbin. Official Duck Studios decided to just remove the rest of his old content in the hopes he wouldn't get his channel terminated. He was white. When it comes to the age restrict thing I think I have it figured out. It tends to happen to Cory when he goes trending. So what that means is the first video that someone sees on youtube might be from Cory. So KZbin sees someone who edits out swearing and is pretty family friendly so they check out his content and if they find anything that might make advertisers go away and they panic because they don't want another adpocalypse to happen so they take it down or age restrict it. So yeah I don't think it's racism. I think it's just inconsistency and obviously favoritism.
@Unknown-sz8kg
@Unknown-sz8kg 2 жыл бұрын
Sick of blacks playing victim all the time and use the race card.
@ratman202
@ratman202 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unknown-sz8kg I don't really think that's what Cory's goal was. He doesn't seem to be the type to do that. I can see why he would jump to that conclusion. But I doubt it is really a case of racism like he seems to believe.
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 2 жыл бұрын
@@ratman202 ya but pulling that card is why it's making waves now. that shouldn't be thr focus it should be the lack of guidelines and detail why something got restricted or strikes and lack of transparency. if Mark couldn't even get things fixed.. pewdipie shadowbanned.. not even linut3chtips or mkhb can stop the bots.. youtu e doesn't care about fixing it.
@ratman202
@ratman202 2 жыл бұрын
@arianna I understand the logic but I just disagree.
@derrickmiles5240
@derrickmiles5240 2 жыл бұрын
There are several factors that have combined to create this unfair system. The first is the amount of content uploaded to the platform daily. Unavoidable. Second is the virality of sensational news stories, which spook advertisers. Also, sort of unavoidable. Third is the number of rules the platform has to enforce. This is an avoidable problem. Though some other means of funding must be sourced, so that advertisers can't pull the rug out any time there's a controversy.
@_mc_hon_3219
@_mc_hon_3219 2 жыл бұрын
"Brand friendly" pretty much nails it.
@soppy_rice
@soppy_rice 2 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea: what if KZbin added the employee ID to the videos they have reviewed, strikes, age restricted, etc. So that people will know if an actual person reviewed it and if there clearly is a bias, they know which employee to take it up with
@owaisted
@owaisted 2 жыл бұрын
my nephews, 8 and 10, loved cory. they would hog the tv for his television. played those games and tried to copy cory's reactions. its him that they follow and started uploading videos of their games as well. think about young children learning to make videos and adding music in background at such a young age. we are from Pakistan and he was their hero. and i am sure they are not alone. he was inspiring young children and its sad that this happened to him.
@veny9779
@veny9779 2 жыл бұрын
If KZbin is racist the why wasn't Quantum TV banned for the ActMan situation? There were so many people that wanted him banned but KZbin didn't cave in. I agree KZbin plays favorites it's obvious, but there's no way that Corey was the only one out the hundreds of thousands that uploaded a video of the game got age restricted. His complaint is partially true.
@TheUnerignl
@TheUnerignl 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that more people are speaking out. Especially after The Act Man.
@dragonfell5078
@dragonfell5078 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the Act Man was an injustice.
@iedutul1
@iedutul1 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin is shit for some time now. But the Act Man fiasco really opened my eyes on how KZbin lacks profesionalism . Quantum Tv clearly has a friend at KZbin . Quantum really doxxed and threatened Act Man's mom , and KZbin demonized Act Man channel. This is the point where we should really consider an alternative for KZbin . This is getting pretty serious
@QuantumTelephone
@QuantumTelephone 2 жыл бұрын
Act man's situation isn't the same. He was poking the bear too hard.(Not saying it's a bad thing that he did)
@iedutul1
@iedutul1 2 жыл бұрын
@@QuantumTelephone dude quantum called his mom :)) for that reason alone quantum should not be on this platform . Let's call stop the bs , and say it like it is, quantum clearly has a friend at KZbin . I really hope there will be some kind of alternative to yt soon . Edit: the tweets about doxxing were a bad move but if someone threatened my mom , i will make bad decisions too :( it just makes me sad to see KZbin being biased
@aj-taz_editing
@aj-taz_editing 2 жыл бұрын
Cory is legit one of the most wholesome most chill dudes on the platform so it sucks to see him get screwed over by KZbin
@MrRaja
@MrRaja 2 жыл бұрын
This sad times. Imagine getting age restricted and losing any further ad-revenue on the video because the A.I. made a mistake.
@chaimeu
@chaimeu 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched jack's video about this, I'm so glad the community is working together like this to help each other. its so cool
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
The person above me is a obvious internet troll baiter.
@Omnihilo
@Omnihilo 2 жыл бұрын
It’s genuinely such a dream seeing all of you talking about this. Thank y’all so much.
@alexoxo1
@alexoxo1 2 жыл бұрын
The beauty of the community coming together against a common evil is something that should happen more often
@Omnihilo
@Omnihilo 2 жыл бұрын
We all see it. Ignore and report.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
Whoops! Wrong user lol. But yea.
@MishaFlower
@MishaFlower 2 жыл бұрын
They literally talk about this every single year since at least 2016. It's one of the most overtalked topics in youtube.
@skunknoodles6426
@skunknoodles6426 2 жыл бұрын
@@MishaFlower unrelated but alright then.
@najmicreativetv9491
@najmicreativetv9491 2 жыл бұрын
same thing happened to Barbs from GeographyNow not long ago when his Finland video get age restricted out of nowhere, only after several appeals that get age restriction removed
@vulcanh254
@vulcanh254 2 жыл бұрын
It's possible someone at youtube really doesn't like Cory, but it doesn't necessarily mean that person is racist. They definitely could be, it's just hard to prove I guess. So it makes more sense to focus on what is demonstrable, and he did a good job demonstrating favoritism and/or incompetence. At the very least it's an issue that most people agree must be rectified. However I fear that youtube will see all this and come to the wrong conclusions and actually make things worse. For example, if KZbin starts favoring Cory and pushing more black creators and also starts suppressing white and asian creators, then they didn't really learn or fix anything, they just unjustly targeted another group and are being total hypocrites and just virtue signaling. Similarly, if KZbin now decides "ok, you want even enforcement we will give it to you" that could translate into more draconian censorship. Like to make sure they're not perceived as playing favorites they could overshoot and air on the side of censoring and striking things more often, across the platform. They absolutely NEED to tell people what is wrong with a video or comment. They need to literally quote or timestamp the problem, to let you know this specific part, opinion or word is the problem. I think they refuse to do it because doing that would give even more ammunition to the critics who accuse them of political bias, sexism or racism. Providing detailed reasoning of the suspension, ban or strike would effectively prove that their rules don't make sense or are enforced arbitrarily / to only one type of creator, which could potentially open them up to legal actions. It could also basically prove that they are publishers and show that they need to be regulated as such.
@ashketchum6585
@ashketchum6585 2 жыл бұрын
Agree to everything but if they decide to make an unwise decision purposefully to say "hey we listened but it seems like you don't want this because now our watch numbers are down" because he made it pretty clear and they know exactly what is going on since Cory said any "person of color" aren't really advertised. I don't really think that it is race, more of just favoritism of race, possible views, and types of traits from certain people. I could go through what I think from how Cory is a different type of role-model from other famous black people(aka liberal racism(for lack of a better term)), his faith, or other factors. But as long as they keep silent or lack of perfect evidence we may not know.
@vulcanh254
@vulcanh254 2 жыл бұрын
@yahoo dot com They literally have a program for black and lgbt creators that Cory and Mudahar talked about and they find it insulting and demeaning. Paying you and giving you special treatment because of how you look.. That kind of diversity obsession is just creepy and not the answer. Cory doesn't want black favoritism he wants to be treated the same as others.
@JTruong3rd
@JTruong3rd 2 жыл бұрын
The favoritism has been around forever as for the racism. It's hard to tell.
@keystep8669
@keystep8669 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is the thing. It wouldn't shock me if there are some racist asshats at YT but the favoritism is a huge issue on the platform.
@kova1577
@kova1577 2 жыл бұрын
@@keystep8669 racist in a woke degenerate shithole of a country? Yeah okay sure
@zenhaelcero8481
@zenhaelcero8481 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta recommend the Upper Echelon videos discussing why the Business Casual lawsuit is not only stupid, but also bad for KZbin.
@gabriellundes7062
@gabriellundes7062 2 жыл бұрын
Bet that power tripping employee(s) felt untouchable too being so blatantly bias. Wonder what they’re feeling now that this blew up in their face. 😆
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
Ignore the reply above me that is made by internet troll spammer and the user wants to get *replies* for attention.
@xZero9Ox
@xZero9Ox 2 жыл бұрын
What employees? You do realize that the problem in this situation was the algorithm that looks through videos wasn't working properly and didn't apply the age-restriction to everyone.
@philodemic
@philodemic 2 жыл бұрын
@@xZero9Ox dude watch cory’s video. there are decisions that could not have been done by the algorithm. pls get a grip and stop replying to every comment
@thelordpizza9443
@thelordpizza9443 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious. Cory's accusations make sense, but then how come they are doing their damnedest to protect Quantum TV, who is a black man that is actively breaking KZbin TOS with abandon?
@TechnicSky
@TechnicSky 2 жыл бұрын
True. Could be bigger fish that they’re frying.
@shir-fw3zm
@shir-fw3zm 2 жыл бұрын
I've thought of this, too. I think that YT patronized the black community by not punishing QTV. They're wary that QTV might start an uproar on racism when that is not even the reason for him getting punished.
@thefaceoffuzz
@thefaceoffuzz 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think it's a "KZbin" issue more than it's a "KZbin employee" issue. Just a shitload of employees who each hold a lot of power over other peoples careers.
@SamuraiHonor
@SamuraiHonor 2 жыл бұрын
Because favoratism is absolutely a thing in yt, massively so. But the race thing says more about Corey and his view on life than reality.
@kevinweltje4604
@kevinweltje4604 2 жыл бұрын
@@shir-fw3zm that sounds like a stretch
@miswiredkenya7320
@miswiredkenya7320 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of improving the creator system, KZbin thought that getting rid of the dislikes number would help creators overall. Just goes to show how out of touch KZbin is with most of their creators
@mjetektman9313
@mjetektman9313 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin will never learn the lesson, until someone creates another competitor, and YT gets chewed up by it
@Awsome2464
@Awsome2464 2 жыл бұрын
Competitors exist, such as Oddysey. The problem is not enough people are moving over to them
@mjetektman9313
@mjetektman9313 2 жыл бұрын
@@Awsome2464 Oh yeah, I forgot about Odysee, it's a good platform, but still needs time to get polished, but if a mass exodus happen, that's pretty much when YT will end
@sagathekawaiikilla
@sagathekawaiikilla 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sad a company has to go to another company to realize there users issues 👀 Especially TWITTER
@Voidrad
@Voidrad 2 жыл бұрын
These age-restrictions and strikes are 100% personal, noone can convince me otherwise.
@TonyB369
@TonyB369 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve said this on a lot of channels now but yt obviously has biases and plays favorites but I genuinely don’t think that the company or review teams are racist. That just seems like a 2022 accusation to try and get more eyeballs on the situation (for better or worse)
@blazernitrox6329
@blazernitrox6329 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I hate to give KZbin credit in this case, I do want to point out: if KZbin has on record what part of the video was the problem, the 5-minute appeal _could_* make sense, as they would skip to the flagged section, watch _it_, and then make a decision. * NOT saying this is a good thing. I would expect that since it's brought up for an appeal, the context around the section would be important, so it _should_ require more time to review based on that alone.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
Ignore the reply above me.
@eyesofthecervino3366
@eyesofthecervino3366 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention they should definitely relay that information to their content creators.
@KittyScythe
@KittyScythe 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so tired of internet spaces having to be locked down because no one pays attention to what their kids watch.
@VeyVox
@VeyVox 2 жыл бұрын
I love how all the big creators now come together to fire back.
@Gambit2483
@Gambit2483 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin needs better (overall) management. Period.
@arperture1341
@arperture1341 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you actually saw the email I sent about Business Casual! I'm really looking forward to seeing how the KZbin community will think about this since the video is shadowbanned which is really fucked up
@MistSGM
@MistSGM 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching Jack's take on this. KZbin is just digging their grave deeper and deeper.
@corey2232
@corey2232 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno, KZbin sure helped protect & defend a serial ToS abuser in Quantum TV (black guy) & punished the non-black people calling him out. Weren't people just claiming YT took QuantumTV's side because they didn't want to look like they were coming down on a black creator? 🤔 Seems YT is just failing either way
@rebel4466
@rebel4466 2 жыл бұрын
This is blown out of proportions. Massively. Maybe a team member took away the restriction after seeing that it's not treated the same way on another account. Then a senior member or a higher up reviewed it and put the restriction on both videos. Talking about who is the favorite is also kinda dumb. Number of interactions of a community, amount of uploads, content type, regularity of uploads, target audience and a whole lot of other things might play into one creator being pushed above another. Not everything is an issue of "they don't like me for reason xyz". Some of it just might be the creator, some of it might be the audience, some of it might even be on KZbins side. But not everything in life happens because there aren't many people with your shade of skin color on a team of a worldwide mega corporation.
@PepeLa_
@PepeLa_ 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad some of the biggest creators are calling KZbin out for their bs, this has gone on too long.
@DjDeadpig
@DjDeadpig 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin failing their creators for the 10000000 time be like.
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
The reply above me is a bot troll spammer to get replies for attention.
@TessaTheCat_
@TessaTheCat_ 2 жыл бұрын
@YeaMan yup, glad you're proving DJ's point.
@Meaniepanini305
@Meaniepanini305 2 жыл бұрын
@@Instabruh.User.. you have a Roblox profile
@walterwhite4398
@walterwhite4398 2 жыл бұрын
@@Meaniepanini305 he's a bot ignore it
@Meaniepanini305
@Meaniepanini305 2 жыл бұрын
@@walterwhite4398 yup shoulda realised it sooner
@bippaasama
@bippaasama 2 жыл бұрын
So this happens to thousands of other KZbinrs, for different reasons, no matter who they are. Then it happens to a black dude and he immediately pulls the R word. I don't know how serious he was when he said they're trying to keep the black man down, but in case he was serious, it's exactly this type of thinking that keeps the socioeconomic gap between black and white people as large as it is. In an era where saying something that could be even slightly misconstrued as negative about black people means social suicide, or PR suicide if you're a company, accusations such as these really have no ground to stand on and only reveal a character flaw in the person making them, namely that they're willing to blame someone else for their problems. KZbin and its parent company Google/Alphabet have done a lot of stupid things, but racism probably isn't among them.
@paulbouchard4918
@paulbouchard4918 2 жыл бұрын
@Juan Platinum 🗿 Well considering that KZbin is owned by Google, and Google is ran by far left extremists, they can crack down on it because companies like that take the race card very seriously, and KZbin will fire people left and right, assuming there ARE anonymous people working in the moderation team. But we all know it's bullshit. The moderating is initially done by a bot that gives off false positives and false negatives 99% of the time. Keep in mind, I'm not defending KZbin. It's a scummy company that's been doing this stuff for years. But something doesn't fit. That being: Cory either saw this happen and said nothing about it until it happened to him, and NOW he pulls the race card. OR he didn't know it was happening to this extent, and when he got hit, he looked into KZbin's history and found problems like this. Either way, to me, KZbin's not innocent in this and needs to fix this ASAP, since they all started with a damn video game, and Cory needs to calm down with the race card and understand it happens to everyone. IGP even got age restricted the same time Cory did.
@seventeenseventythirteen7465
@seventeenseventythirteen7465 2 жыл бұрын
How come anytime the mere mention of something possibly being maybe racist people get this reactionary "WOW, now hold on there, I doubt it's racist, you're over reacting." response? Like, never have I seen someone suggest something might be racist without a slue of skepticism. Like, more skepticism than acknowledgement, even if it's more credible and likely to be racist.
@bippaasama
@bippaasama 2 жыл бұрын
@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 Because this case is neither credible, nor likely to be racist. The person in question provided no evidence of any racism occurring, not even circumstantial evidence. Circumstantial evidence in this case would be evidence of censorship happening to him and people of his race more than others. And the reason people are quick to point out when a claim of racism is bullshit is because it's a serious accusation that leads to real world consequences. People have suffered real life consequences over being accused of racism, most often without any actual evidence. And another, perhaps even bigger reason people are pissed off is because the usually designated victim classes of people enjoy a near-unilateral ability to throw that accusation around and have everyone take them seriously when their group is just as capable of being racially prejudicial as anyone else.
@KASINOBEATZ
@KASINOBEATZ 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao he said "he's like a bear , hibernates most of the year"😂😂😂
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 2 жыл бұрын
comes out when it's time to pay the bills lol
@tomenza
@tomenza 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't such a matching algorithm be prohibitively resource intensive? It's one thing to see something, it's another thing to look through everything else to see what matches what you saw
@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd
@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think KZbin treated him unfairly... He got age restricted, then he reached out to KZbin and mentioned that he suspects racial discrimination, so someone at KZbin removed the age restriction, because when a black person mentions that they're being racially discriminated, people will do whatever they can to appease them. And then, when Corey started complaining because KZbin removed the age restriction instead of age restricting Markiplier's video, someone else at KZbin reviewed the situation again and decided the initial decision to age restrict the video, was the correct one. I bet the video would have never gotten the age restriction removed in the first place if Corey never mentioned racism to his KZbin rep/liaison in that first complaint...
@totallynotabot8580
@totallynotabot8580 2 жыл бұрын
🤦🏽‍♂️
@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd
@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd 2 жыл бұрын
@@totallynotabot8580 "smh" while you're at it...
@ItsKagiVids
@ItsKagiVids 2 жыл бұрын
It's no secret that KZbin plays favorites I mean we literally just had the Quantum TV and Act Man situation a little while ago even though Quantum TV literally doxxed Act Man's mother and Quantum faced no consequences.
@Abumustard6364
@Abumustard6364 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda speaks against the racism argument in that situation though.
@ItsKagiVids
@ItsKagiVids 2 жыл бұрын
@@Abumustard6364 Not exactly since Quantum TV has wished death upon people in the LGBT not like that's any better.
@helko1
@helko1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItsKagiVids Wrong wrong wrong sigh. Quantum TV and actman is not in the same vein as Cory. And I'm sorry this sounds wrong but if you're not actually black, you won't get it. Corporations like KZbin, Twitter, Twitch all run like "systems" where they only care about money and looking good. Cory is not the "right type of black person" they want, you see it when KZbin promotes it's "KZbin black voices" nonsense. You want to see what type of black people they like, it's all those on that diversity spotlight. The issue with quantum is different, it's not racism, it's about looking good. Sure quantum may have said somethings about LGBT but act man is white, and trying to get quantum on his "anti LGBT" stuff to KZbin is you asking them to make a decision between a black person and lgbt group. And remember, KZbin wants both these groups, not because they care but because they need them to "look good." So actman is the scapegoat because he's straight and white, why should KZbin have to choose between a black man and lgbt, when there's a white man over there, you see. It's alot deeper than simply racism, and if you're a minority, not a progressive and old enough, you'll know through experience how these companies move. You will all call out racism from KZbin but at the end of the day, they'll give lip service "to look good" then go back to normal business. It is what it is.
@verdurite
@verdurite 2 жыл бұрын
@@Abumustard6364 no, it really doesn't
@Imamnotjapanese445
@Imamnotjapanese445 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing muta and Cory in the same video feel weird and awesome 😎
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
Ignore reply above me. It's troll and the user wants to get *replies* for attention.
@Imamnotjapanese445
@Imamnotjapanese445 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you super agent for making me aware 💜
@imperfect_cliche
@imperfect_cliche 2 жыл бұрын
So many channels including you just posted a vid just like this on the same day. And now i just found out one of my favorite channels got completely demonitived and they been being screwed over by bots and false claims for a while now and it actually kind of hurt.. AND IM JUST SOME VIEWER. Im so disappointed and angry and im not even a creator so i cant even imagine how creators feel. This is ridiculous. I hope all the videos i seen today including yours spread awareness to FINALLY make youtube get its shit together. Rn, it seems like a self destructng failing platform because of this. Its ridiculous and unfair to creators who do this as their livelihood or even just out of joy. I dont wanna be negative but this is so disappointing and disgusting to see. I reallly hope these channels can get back on their feet soon.
@ignisglasses3080
@ignisglasses3080 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin needs new leadership
@twistedadjust
@twistedadjust 2 жыл бұрын
They need to just revamp all the teams with more people I feel there are just sooo many vids not enough people
@Autechltd
@Autechltd 2 жыл бұрын
From all the reports I've heard, and how communication is done between YT reps and the YT policy team, I'm confident that the policy team is not based in the US and are in an entirely different time zone.
@jackgreen4698
@jackgreen4698 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin seems problematic at the moment. I wonder what there going to do without overcorrecting like we've seen before
@SuperAgentAB
@SuperAgentAB 2 жыл бұрын
The reply that is made by an user that seeks for *attention*
@supercalifragilisticex
@supercalifragilisticex 2 жыл бұрын
I think youtube has a dish of favoritism with employee biases sprinkled on top, it's not one thing because there is not just one person working at KZbin.
@masonmclemore5803
@masonmclemore5803 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@darksuns7384
@darksuns7384 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin has priority creators that get to skirt the algorithm. Using Markiplier's half korean ass as an example of white privilege or something seems like a poor comparison.
@knightstudio9985
@knightstudio9985 2 жыл бұрын
@@masonmclemore5803 just report the bot
@Tiamatdlord
@Tiamatdlord 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the ad situation because it ties into this because if youtube decides what is needed it does. I usually watch content creators who hate ads, but then I get an ad every 2-5mintues in a 15-20 minute video
@merlith4650
@merlith4650 2 жыл бұрын
I have said it before, but I will say it again. KZbin has become such a terrible site. We really need a KZbin competitor. KZbins AI even lists random videos as "for kids" regardless of when it was uploaded or creator's consent. A Norwegian artist I follow suddenly had one of her music videos (which has been up for years) flagged as "for kids", even though the song has a darker subject and even depicts suicide of a puppy. But because the video is a stop-motion animation with colorful dolls, KZbin goes "oh this must be for children"
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