Master the Melee Hand! Solo Olm 4:1 + 3:1 Guide

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@channingtaintum
@channingtaintum 8 ай бұрын
Got my first deathless solo 3:1 thanks to this video. Believe it or not, getting my first inferno cape was actually _LESS_ frustrating than learning and getting the 3:1 down. Thank you for this guide, man. Seriously, you are genuinely such an excellent teacher.
@HolyGorilla
@HolyGorilla 5 ай бұрын
watched this guide like 10+ times and still crack up when you take excess damage from walking in the poison. Great content, keep it up!
@morley7049
@morley7049 Ай бұрын
This is probably the best guide for OLM mele hand solo that exists on the internet. Ive watched probably 20 different youtubers videos on solo olm. None even come close to this. It is explained so simply. I dont understand why everyone else has to make this so complicated. Thanks to you I got my first solo COX and now I only run solos. This deserves WAAAAAY more views
@waisecc
@waisecc 3 ай бұрын
Just want to say a big thank you! All of your CoX guides have been ESSENTIAL for me to learn how to CoX solo (well, my first cox runs in general). Simply the fact that you have tile markers on, true tile and visual metronome, makes it much easier to follow along. You then show by example and describe exactly what you're doing and what to do when messing up. No counting ticks, no going by feel and getting frustrated.
@louisselstad2285
@louisselstad2285 8 ай бұрын
Bro, only guide that has made sense. Thanks!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
Awesome. Very glad to hear it helped :)
@travis3793
@travis3793 8 ай бұрын
literally the only guide
@xJiFFy04
@xJiFFy04 4 ай бұрын
THIS IS SO INSANELY UNDER-RATED. GOD GUIDE
@Greek-God-Adonis
@Greek-God-Adonis 6 ай бұрын
Your 3:1 is the greatest guide ive ever watched, its been a month or so since i've watched this and since then i've been running solo CMs but I had to come back to show my appreciation for your work.
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 6 ай бұрын
TYSM! Very proud of you for working through it and learning to solo CMs :) Any sick purps yet??
@conorr9308
@conorr9308 8 ай бұрын
Broooo the amount of guides out there which are outrageously complicated and I've learned more in 10 minutes than I have in hours of others. Can't wait to try this out!!
@conorr9308
@conorr9308 8 ай бұрын
I have one quick question, at 5:50 where he does the double auto, is the reason you didn't do a 3:1 (as you're attacking with 4:1) because the auto attack occurred with his head facing the middle? Just so I know and don't flap and go out of cycle. Cheers bud
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
@@conorr9308 So glad to hear you enjoyed the guide! I hope it helps! To answer your question, at 5:50 you might have heard me say "because we splashed we take an extra hit", that means that I hit a bunch of zeroes in a row. unlucky. But he was already in the 4:1 cycle. So just because he turned mid and "saw" me he shot an extra basic attack, but it doesnt matter. Just stay in the 4:1 cycle, because we were already in it. Kinda confusing. TBH if youre using a lance you will rarely see this happen. It was mostly because I was using a whip and its not nearly as accurate so "splashing" can happen more often. GL!
@conorr9308
@conorr9308 8 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBotahh that makes more sense to me now in how splashing effects the cycle, that's super helpful again. Many thanks dude and thanks for responding so quick! Many GLs to you too
@LukeJamesL
@LukeJamesL Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video guide series. Got 3 deathless solos in a row yesterday and have done a ton of solos in the last week. Such straightforward information and in such a relaxed and simple demeanour about it. Can’t wait to get my first solo purple
@gyundie28
@gyundie28 3 ай бұрын
The best Cox guides right here folks
@wandernaut
@wandernaut 2 ай бұрын
i remember watching this shortly after i made my ironman to remember 4:1 and recently used this to learn 3:1 with the new halberd and you did an amazing job at simplifying how to see where you are in the rotation and how to react to each scenario. beast
@Haukaud
@Haukaud 8 ай бұрын
I mean.. I'm speechless. You explain it so simple and yet so effective. THE GOAT
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! ^.^
@michealczinglety5434
@michealczinglety5434 6 ай бұрын
got my first dex because of your guide showing how to force the 3 1 was life changing thank you man 20 solos down now going for deathless
@cassarin0
@cassarin0 6 ай бұрын
you helped me get my first quiver , you helped me get my first infernal cape you sir know just the perfect way to make complex things digestible
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 6 ай бұрын
Love to hear it. How's it feel flexing your professional gamer upgrades??
@cassarin0
@cassarin0 6 ай бұрын
@VideoGameBot it's honestly been a dream of mine for years , so thank you for the great guides , keep teaching man you got a talent for it
@michal3636
@michal3636 4 ай бұрын
This is the only guide on YT that's worth watching. You're GOATED
@7ehNP
@7ehNP 5 ай бұрын
Bro your guides helped me so much. The tick counter on your head was a such a godsend
@SoulSpice
@SoulSpice 7 ай бұрын
Just started doing COX today and Olm has always been the largest hurdle. My man, you've single handedly allowed me to continuously progress through Olm with fewer and fewer deaths. Keep up the good work and keep uploading these awesome guides!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
Thats so awesome! I can't wait for you to get your first deathless KC :) Its coming! Keep up the good work you got this dude
@SoulSpice
@SoulSpice 7 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot My man I've had consistent no death Cox runs thanks to you. Thanks so much! Keep up the great content! Subbed!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
@@SoulSpice Thanks for the update dude! Thats so awesome :) Any solo purps yet??
@SoulSpice
@SoulSpice 7 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot I've gotten extremely lucky! In the first 10 learner raids I had an ancestral top and d claw drop. Deathless runs I've acquired two arcane prayer scrolls and last night a dex scroll! All within 45 raids!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
@@SoulSpice bro what no way! Mega spoon!! Thats so awesome man. Arent solos fun :)?
@chrisj4972
@chrisj4972 3 ай бұрын
thanks spent like 1hr just practicing 3:1 fang for olm and your guide helped me, tyvm
@Austinwevo
@Austinwevo 6 ай бұрын
Dude… thank you. I’m not going to repeat the same thing everyone else has said. Just thank you!!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 6 ай бұрын
Happy to help :)
@fallingnao3919
@fallingnao3919 8 ай бұрын
Your guides are really good and the way you teach makes it really easy to get into, honestly I'd love to see guides for other content such as toa and it's related content (butterflying, red x, ect). And if you would want to make longer guides, inferno would be amazing, but personally I really love the fact that your guides are split into "smaller" videos each meant to teach one thing/method instead of the whole content all at once.
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! I also think splitting the guides into smaller portions makes it much easier to digest. Needless to say, if I did an inferno guide (which I will, eventually) I would do something similar. Red x baba and butterfly sound like fun guides. Maybe I should give that a go as well :o TYVM
@ivan-qd9xk
@ivan-qd9xk 7 ай бұрын
broooo you're the only one with the most basic guide but it explains so much and i want to thank you so much for helping me learn olm melee hand from 1:0 to 4:1. i finally got a kill with 4:1 mastered and i even reset it like 3 times haha thank you tons dude you're the goat.
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
GAMING! huge dude gzzz! go get those solo purps. Clutch a tbow for me ;D
@4ulsock884
@4ulsock884 7 ай бұрын
BEAST! best vid of how to master 4:1 / 3:1 melee, 10/10!!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
I hope it helps :)
@MannyMacc1
@MannyMacc1 7 ай бұрын
i watched this video first week u put it out. i logged 300 solo olm kc since nonstop. rsn 150 shadow. thank you bro for real
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
Thats amazing bro! what kinda cool drops u got??
@douglasjohnson2555
@douglasjohnson2555 8 ай бұрын
Very well explained :) The only part I'm still having trouble with is the different 'possibilities' of what can happen if Olm is not *immediately* in the 4:1 pattern. I see you do a 1:0 cycle, but I can't seem to use that to "fix" him back into the 4:1 cycle, especially if I'm getting portals/acid/crystal rain thrown my way.
@ardechey
@ardechey 8 ай бұрын
Been learning solo this last week and your videos are great and perfectly timed!
@iNbl00D
@iNbl00D 3 ай бұрын
Just decided to switch to scythe instead of DHL at olm and found this guide... You definitely did a great job with this. Great job explaining things clearly.
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 3 ай бұрын
@iNbl00D awesome I hope it's helping you learn 3:1! I personally like 3:1 a lot more than 4:1. I find it more relaxed
@iNbl00D
@iNbl00D 3 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot it did for sure and yeah I'm enjoying it :D chambers is by far my weakest area in the game and where I'm going to struggle to complete all the CAs the most so I have a lot to learn before I hit GM time =/
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 3 ай бұрын
@iNbl00D the normal mode solo cox time is pretty damn tight ngl. I think when I was going for it I was aiming for an 8 minute raid + a sub 9 olm. Definitely one of the harder Cas IMO but bro keep practicing you can do it
@iNbl00D
@iNbl00D 13 күн бұрын
@@VideoGameBot I got it! 16:14 without tightrope skip and getting trolled by an almost no anvil tekton :D
@WittcherOSRS
@WittcherOSRS 4 ай бұрын
This helped me get a clean enough olm for the gm time. This video helped so much brother, thank you!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 4 ай бұрын
@@WittcherOSRS awesome!! Congrats dude
@FrancisGagarin
@FrancisGagarin 2 күн бұрын
I love you sir! Greatest melee olm hand guide ever
@ogongo2029
@ogongo2029 7 ай бұрын
Best guide out forsure thanks for my first deathless
@Tortsie
@Tortsie 5 ай бұрын
very clean steps, also tells you what to do on special or on double hit. legend.
@Exilor
@Exilor 7 ай бұрын
Amazing video, one of the best to explain how to set the melee hand up! i learnt to skip specials in no time!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
Totally glad I could help! Go get those solo purps :)
@CanadiianEh
@CanadiianEh 5 ай бұрын
Super concise - just got elder maul on my iron so I finally have a spec weapon. Gonna try learning solo now and def will be checking out your other vids!
@damiandenton422
@damiandenton422 7 ай бұрын
Easily the best explanations holy shit this is great dude ty ❤
@nobdog5037
@nobdog5037 6 ай бұрын
Great vid, finally managed to learn this properly. Commenting for algorithm cause you deserve it :)
@OSRSPorba-eq2jx
@OSRSPorba-eq2jx 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Man!!! Your guides are the best got my first quiver with your colosseum guides
@ZarosianEos
@ZarosianEos 8 ай бұрын
This has me feeling way more confident about learning 4:1 for solos. Been running duos with one of my GIM members and looking to try solos soon when he's not available.
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
Great to hear! It can be a struggle waiting for partners/finding team mates to run with. Having the option to run solos in your tool kit opens up a whole new world of possibilities
@air5723
@air5723 8 ай бұрын
Mood. My GIM team only needs two more sets of masori to be done with ToA (we are incredibly spooned with 4 shadows), so being able to solo cox will help a ton with going for ancestral (we have 0 pieces in like 500 combined kc lmao) and more tbows (which again we are incredibly spooned and got one a month ago). I've been dreading solo cox but VideoGameBot's videos make it seem much more approachable.
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
@@air5723 Bro I wish I was that lucky! I've never even seen a shadow split XD
@air5723
@air5723 8 ай бұрын
​@@VideoGameBot19 purples in my name, 3 of them are shadows ;p Two more shadows in another of my GIM team's name, but he got hacked and lost one. So we're at 4/5
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
@@air5723 Absolutely insane RNG. Hopefully youre just as lucky at cox and tob!
@joey2934
@joey2934 2 ай бұрын
Very well explained man, made it so simple to understand
@brandonewing6286
@brandonewing6286 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for such a succinct and straightforward guide
@air5723
@air5723 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I'll be watching this when it's time to learn solo cox x.x
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
Any time! I highly recommend starting with 1:0 and slowly working your way up to 4:1 when you feel comfortable with upgrading your strategy. GOOD LUCK! :)
@air5723
@air5723 8 ай бұрын
​​@@VideoGameBot How many stams would you recommend bringing in while learning? 2, 3?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
@@air5723 With this method I recommend starting with at least 3 stams. As you get better and more comfortable with the technique you will be able to downsize to 2 stams.
@FajrLebanon
@FajrLebanon 8 ай бұрын
I don’t understand 3-1 4-1 what does that mean
@air5723
@air5723 8 ай бұрын
@@FajrLebanon 3 to 1, 4 to 1, 1 to 0 - these all mean "number of hits you DO to the number of hits you TAKE" So 3 to 1 means that you hit olm three times for every one time he hits you. 1 to 0 means that you hit olm once per cycle but he doesn't hit you at all
@Artyom117
@Artyom117 8 ай бұрын
love your videos, excited for new ones!
@Tomtek654
@Tomtek654 8 ай бұрын
Just got the undying raider CA thanks to your 3:1 method
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
Epic win!! congratz dude
@tiptopa1
@tiptopa1 Ай бұрын
Thank you for not overcomplicating 3:1 like other videos
@Scriptsx
@Scriptsx 6 ай бұрын
Perfect guide mate, just maybe let people know about the attack cycle of Olm and on the 3:1 that they need to hold a tick before repeating the cycle
@lewis3783
@lewis3783 27 күн бұрын
sooooo good i just starting soloing cox and have been getting deathless clears really quickly thanks to these vids, would love you to consider doing similar for 12-0 and 8 -1
@quatha
@quatha 8 ай бұрын
Got my first twisted kit just this morning @ 28 solo KC using your tips on 3:0, 1:0. Its crazy how much DPS you can do with 1:0 scythe. My pb so far is only about 20 seconds off GM time. Makes me wonder how worth using 3:1 scythe on CMs even is. I'm not thinking normal GM time is possible with 1:0 scythe, so will be using this vid when I need to take down that challenge!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
Thats so cool to hear man! GL on your gm time, and gz on kit! 1:0 is not ridiculously slow. Assuming zero tick loss, you lose about 16-20% dps throughout the entire olm fight relative to faster methods.
@quatha
@quatha 8 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot Reporting back - Smoked the CM GM time today thx to you. Did 1:0 scythe and 2:0 shadow. Obviously not optimal but it got the job done!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
@@quatha BROOO congratz!! thats wild man
@mattdrifts
@mattdrifts 8 ай бұрын
thanks to your other guides im doing 3.0 mage and 1.0 melee...im going to have to convert to 3.1 at some stage (with fang) i guess. thanks for the vids
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
Now we just pray to RNGesus for some purps! GZZ brutha
@user-sm1jt3tm1z
@user-sm1jt3tm1z 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant guide! Would you be able to do a guide for shadow mage hand?
@derda3209
@derda3209 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video, got my first 3 deathless cox kcs thx to you with 1:0! Now I'm trying to master 4:1, I get the timing of the hits and moving the head, but why do you move in that pattern and not just stand in one place for the attacks? are you avoiding some flamewall/falling crystal/poison scenarios with that?
@godzzlla9576
@godzzlla9576 6 ай бұрын
First guide where someone finally explain how to reset properly ....
@BamMajesticDawn
@BamMajesticDawn Ай бұрын
Never really comment just wanted to say love the vids have helped me out a ton especially with the visual metronome walkthroughs. Would love a follow up to this using the visual metronome and explaining it with the 4:1 method. For instance is your attack tick was 4 you click to move left to avoid flame wall on 2 or 3 and such. I can probably figure out from the guide but think since most of your old guide use it would be nice to continue it for clarity for us noobs
@mysticflow467
@mysticflow467 5 ай бұрын
7:40 omg this section made it so clear
@jimmyracecar7
@jimmyracecar7 5 ай бұрын
really would have liked to you go more in depth with 4:1 and show other different scenarios and how you deal with em. Been in olm for 5 hours. Its starting to click ok, but I dont get how to best deal with certain situations and just has me scratchin my head wondering what i did wrong and should have done.
@kilbornagon
@kilbornagon 10 күн бұрын
Does it work the exact same way if on my 3rd hit I hit it on Olms thumb? But do everything else is the same
@uhhhTa
@uhhhTa 6 ай бұрын
great 3:1, last guy gave me hemorrhoids with his explanation
@travis3793
@travis3793 8 ай бұрын
this is so helpful, thank you!
@bluepartyhat
@bluepartyhat 18 күн бұрын
It looks like you wait 1 tick at middle when doing 3:1, effectively clicking the tick before he turns his head (metronome says 4). At 8:19 you accidentally click 1 tick too early (3).
@gluehuffer6955
@gluehuffer6955 8 ай бұрын
good tutorial! gonna try your 1:0 with specials, seems better than sitting there tanking hits and hitting 3 times.edit: do you always start 4:1 with a 1:0 first? seems handy, i take way too much damage.
@zparrotz
@zparrotz 5 ай бұрын
After your 3th attack of 4:1 do you wait an extra tick on the yellow tile you move to or not? cause it seems like you are? Awesome vids btw!
@lmagine091
@lmagine091 5 ай бұрын
So essentially you want to rotate its attack cycle so that you're left with one basic attack into an empty event? And so does turning the head reset him into basic, empty event every time?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 5 ай бұрын
In depth question, love it. You're right! Basically, when he head is "turning" he would actually be casting a special attack + a basic attack (turn left, turn right) Then when you're hitting him, he does a basic attack + an empty event. That's exactly what is happening while running 3:1 or 4:1! You got it
@lmagine091
@lmagine091 5 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot Very insightful, just knowing those details helps me understand the bigger picture of why that's done in that specific way. I cannot express how thankful I am for your guides, they've really helped me not only understand a lot of concepts, but also fine tune these mechanics.
@ally4131
@ally4131 9 күн бұрын
What do you think of the most common method for getting into 4:1 which is to stand on the second row of the thumb tile and attack on the tick after Olm attacks? Also is there a reason why you do the 2 attacks on the ring and index ringer rather than 2 on the thumb? The one somewhat confusing thing about 4:1 is that everyone seems to do it in slightly different ways
@tipsosrs8735
@tipsosrs8735 8 ай бұрын
would love to see a shadow mage hand guide!
@quatha
@quatha 8 ай бұрын
The easy (2:0) method with shadow is just the exact same movement as 3:0 except your guy just doesn't end up firing one of the magic shots due to Shadow being slower.
@JM7900
@JM7900 8 ай бұрын
​@quatha they're asking about 12:0 and 8:1 for shadow. Anyone using shadow should understand basic 3:0 and strive for the proper shadow method. I learned through Muts shadow guide, highly recommend.
@aisyahemelia219
@aisyahemelia219 Ай бұрын
Let me clarify one thing first. For 4:1 and 3:1 cycles you are tanking an auto and a null. So, if it's null+auto and auto (two consecutive autos) you do a 2:1 or 3:1 (for 3:1 and 4:1 respectively) because you take one less hit and that puts you back in cycle. If you see an auto and then a special, you do a 1:0 and that puts you back in cycle. However, if you see a special+auto (like at7:16) and then an auto, and you do a 1:0, you will see two consecutive autos in the next 3:1 or 4:1 cycle, in which case you just do a 2:1 or 3:1 to rectify. Is this correct?
@flavioespanol8868
@flavioespanol8868 5 ай бұрын
Hi buddy, can i confirm we need to do the 1:0 if there's a special attack even if we have started on the correct cycle? i e starting from right hand side we've clicked attack on correct tick. Or, is this only if we're on the wrong attack tick?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 5 ай бұрын
If you are running 3:1 or 4:1 correctly (your movement is perfect) and olm is still casting special attacks, simply do a 1:0 and it will force him to stop doing special attacks. At that point he will either automatically fall into cycle, or you can do "1 less hit" (aka 2:1 or 3:1, respectively) to force him into the 3:1 or 4:1 cycle.
@dubudubu2442
@dubudubu2442 4 ай бұрын
do you think its better to learn 4:1 first or just start with 3:1 if you already have a scythe/fang?
@alexgrayson1
@alexgrayson1 8 ай бұрын
Great guide - can you share your tile markers please?
@justinsinn7312
@justinsinn7312 8 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO! THANKS BROTHER!
@stoicpulse9
@stoicpulse9 7 ай бұрын
I don't struggle with 4:1 once I'm in cycle really, I struggle getting into cycle from mage hand. Any tips?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
I like to start with a 1:0, then go immediately into 4:1. You could even do two 1:0's and land both dwh specs during 1:0, then go straight into 4:1
@zackgardner6517
@zackgardner6517 8 ай бұрын
whats the name of the plugin to see the ticks above you?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
That's the "Visual Metronome" plugin! I highly recommend checking out the video link in the description, it goes into much detail about how the plugin can help sync up the head
@jonwhan3572
@jonwhan3572 4 ай бұрын
Very helpful.
@BlackBeltKilla
@BlackBeltKilla 5 ай бұрын
What exactly did you mess up at 8:21? You were in the 3:1 cycle and your tile hit exactly where you were supposed to run to?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 5 ай бұрын
Really good question. I didn't lag a tick on the "left" tile. When you do 3:1 you gotta lag 1 tick (come to a complete stop) on the left tile before attacking again. For reference to 4:1, you do NOT lag a tick. 4:1 is a constant movement pattern
@BlackBeltKilla
@BlackBeltKilla 5 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot ok thank you! Might try out 3:1 again but if not I’ll just run 1:0 melee band with Scy 😂
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 5 ай бұрын
@BlackBeltKilla there's no harm in doing 1:0. I've done it hundreds of times :) go get those fatty solo purps, and gl learning 3:1!
@BlackBeltKilla
@BlackBeltKilla 5 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot thanks brotha!
@BlackBeltKilla
@BlackBeltKilla 5 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot did 1 run norm today and finished at 50+ min l00l. Forgot that I had my shadow on long range so that’s my excuse on why mage hand was fucked. And for why melee hand was fucked, I have no reason.. 😂 but on the brightside, I did get an anc drop 😂👊🏽
@darylsavage119
@darylsavage119 8 ай бұрын
Why do you do the running around when doing the 4 melee hits, can you explain that? I get the moving the head to the middle, but why not camp far right finger and hit him 4 times
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
The additional movement is to dodge potential flame walls. If you stand still you risk getting caught in the flame. You also need to be somewhat close to your middle tiles to end your 4:1 cycle because you dont have enough ticks to run from pinky to mid (after attacking) in 4 ticks.
@bigjvilly8278
@bigjvilly8278 8 ай бұрын
Yoo great job on the olm guides. I got my first solo kc because of you so thank you!! Can you consider doing a solo shadow guide for Olm's mage hand, please?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
Thats awesome to hear! great job dude. Wish respect to a shadow guide, as far as I know there are 3 different shadow methods: 12:0 8:1 2:0 the first 2 are very complicated. They require very fancy footwork, lots of things to memorize, and even attack style changes mid-cycle. I do not plan to make a guide on such a complicated method right now. 2:0, however, is very simple. even easier than 3:0. If I make a shadow guide, I would be teaching this method.
@bigjvilly8278
@bigjvilly8278 8 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot Thanks! I didn’t know there were so many shadow methods. Would appreciate any vid. Keep up the content, king.
@DrPhilYourGap
@DrPhilYourGap 5 ай бұрын
literally just running from sie to side i still get hit lmao i cannot understand this at all im doing identical things. does it have to be pick perfect???? i keep getting portals randomly
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 5 ай бұрын
It definitely has to be tick perfect. I high recommend perfecting your 3:0 mage before jumping into methods like 4:1 or 3:1. Easing into the fight mechanics starting with 3:0 mage and 1:0 melee will make things significantly easier when learning. If still having trouble, considering practicing head mechanics. No attacks. Just run far left and far right and pay attention with how the head spins with respect to your visual metronome. Take note: if you notice the head is turning on tick 3 for example, that means you need to click on tick 2, so your avatar begins running on tick 3 (same tick olm turns his head) I hope this helps. Don't give up. Go in with a learners mindset. Things get easier with practice!
@valdack1
@valdack1 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the guide, this makes a lot of sense. I have one question about the movement between hit 2 and 3 in the 4-1 cycle. Is there a reason you walk to the right and back to the left between the hits?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
There is a chance that he throws a flame wall. If you walk right then back left real quick you have a good chance of avoiding it!
@Akwler
@Akwler 8 ай бұрын
Only necessary on flame phases or p3 when all the phase specific attacks are available. If you get crystal or acid p1/p2 you can skip the jump step and just walk towards thumb with your empty ticks. With this movement you can still get a flame wall but you won’t be trapped in it. If you move out to the wall and get dragged in for the attack you can null the flame wall entirely
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
@@Akwler This is correct, and goes into better detail than I did with my comment
@higoralmeidamazzeo661
@higoralmeidamazzeo661 6 ай бұрын
You werent able to show here a 4:1 with olm hitting you twice. In the video you said "you do an extra attack, so you do 3 quick attacks and he is back on cycle" It got me a little confused. If Olm does two attacks in a row, should I attack Olm 5 times or 3 times instead of 4?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 6 ай бұрын
"do 1 less hit". If you're doing 4:1, and you see olm do a double attack, do a 3:1, and he will be set :) Watch this timestamp. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXzVpoScismJjas
@higoralmeidamazzeo661
@higoralmeidamazzeo661 6 ай бұрын
Sorry, I heard "more" instead of "less". Don't know why. I am having difficult setting him up when he does two standard attacks. My third hit should be in the thumb instead of the middle finger, right? I think I cant reach the left side in time if I do this third hit in the middle finger, or can I? And this 3:1 to set olm should be done after a 4:1 where I see the two consecutive attacks, right?
@higoralmeidamazzeo661
@higoralmeidamazzeo661 6 ай бұрын
Also another thing I see people saying is that to set olm I should wait a tick in my third hit of the first 4:1 I throw at Olm. In this pathing you show in the video, is already a tick late?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 6 ай бұрын
@@higoralmeidamazzeo661 your 3rd hit can be middle finger, but your 4th hit should definitely be on the thumb. I dont think you will be able to get left fast enough if youre not 4th hitting from the thumb. Yes, the 3:1 should be directly after a 4:1 where you see 2 regular attacks. When people talk about "lagging" a tick, I think they are probably referring to 3:1. You have to lag a tick after your 3rd hit while doing 3:1. 4:1 is tick perfect or you fall out of sync.
@higoralmeidamazzeo661
@higoralmeidamazzeo661 6 ай бұрын
Thanks bro. I just did my first 4:1 with no death and got the A Not So Special Lizard CA 😅 I did 4:1 in the first and second phase and 1:0 in the last phase, cuz I didnt want to mess up when the hand was healing. It went perfect. I was able to set the loop after getting hit by olm two times in a row, I did a 3:1 hitting the last hit on the thumb. I feel more confortable this way, don't know why
@Im_diminished
@Im_diminished 2 ай бұрын
as someone who is fairly new to game ticks, what method would be best with the dhl?
@Im_diminished
@Im_diminished 2 ай бұрын
also could you coach me, I am dedicated to learn
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 2 ай бұрын
@@Im_diminished I highly suggest starting with the 1:0 melee hand setup to get a feel for his timing. After you get that down and understand how his head works then upgrade to 4:1, which is significantly more complex that ezpz 1:0 Here is a link to my beginners guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmW4o5WBlL6tbqs I also have a discord, im in there with many other strongboiz and we all offer advice :)
@davidc2168
@davidc2168 8 ай бұрын
Is there a correlation between the tick you attach on during 3:0 mage hand, to what tick you should attack hand in 4:1 / start 4:1? So if 3:0 mage was on Tick 1 with the plugin, is there a quick way to get straight into the cycle knowing that? My issue has been working out which tick I should be clicking the hand after running left, which would help recover after getting out of cycle
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
There is! Let's hypothetically say olm is attacking on tick 1: When you do 3:0, you also attack on 1. When you did 1:0, you began running on tick 1. Now, when you do either 4:1 or 3:1 (doesn't matter which) you begin the cycle on tick 1. Hope that helps!
@davidc2168
@davidc2168 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the reply. Appreciate the different approach you use for Olm, visual ticks are what clicks for me, so it's been super helpful.
@Artyom117
@Artyom117 8 ай бұрын
I've gotten a few solo kcs thanks to your guides, what's confusing me is how to move when I want to do 3:1 with 4t weapon after two olm autos to set up 4:1 Which hit am I skipping? Ty for the awesome guides!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
To do a 3:1 as you described you will want to do 3 hits, and then instead of staying for your 4th hit, run immediately back to the "left" tile where you begin your engage from. When you hit him for your 3rd time, he will hit you once (with a basic attack), at that point you stop attacking and run left. Then go right back into cycle.
@Artyom117
@Artyom117 8 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBotI see, ty so much!
@JD-iz9fr
@JD-iz9fr 8 ай бұрын
Nice guide Ty
@bethaneyres2170
@bethaneyres2170 6 ай бұрын
Great video! Iv managed to get in the 4:1 but when I need to reset I’m struggling to get back in the 4:1 I just keep getting specials I think it’s the turn of olm head I can’t get down???
@bethaneyres2170
@bethaneyres2170 6 ай бұрын
Or panicking and moving to quick??
@uumMC
@uumMC 6 ай бұрын
let's say I 1:0 twice and do 4:1 after will it be 100% in cycle all the time ?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 6 ай бұрын
No. Lets say you do a 4:1, and olm uses one of his special attacks (lightning, portals, or crystals). At this point you do a single 1:0 After that you go back into the 4:1 cycle. He will either be automatically set (50%) or he will use a double normal attack (50%). If hes set, just do 4:1 til the hand dies. If he uses 2 basic attacks, perform a 3:1 (and then he will be set)
@higoralmeidamazzeo661
@higoralmeidamazzeo661 8 ай бұрын
Whats if the special is not crystal but lighting or portal? Can I avoid them by quiting attacking and then go back to 4:1 until the special is crystals?
@austinlogan4247
@austinlogan4247 7 ай бұрын
why do you click 1 tile back of the hand in between attacks? is that necessary?
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
its useful for dodging potential flame wall attacks. In this video it didn't happen, but sometimes he throws a flame wall on the tick i do that little "step back" technique. If you get into a habit of doing it all the time, you will most likely always dodge flame walls
@austinlogan4247
@austinlogan4247 7 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot thanks man! the rooms are easy thanks to your guide, and i have cleared olm by deathpiling but trying not to deathpile :D
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
@@austinlogan4247 Have you seen my guide "how to kill olm at any level, with any gear"?? I use the 1:0 method, which is significantly easier to learn than 4:1 or 3:1. Regardless of your method, wishing you all the luck!
@austinlogan4247
@austinlogan4247 7 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot yes, but i have close to max gear and max stats so would like to push through the learning. i can clear olm now somewhat consistently
@HexaFe
@HexaFe 8 ай бұрын
informative video, nice
@Cruel_REBIRTH
@Cruel_REBIRTH 7 ай бұрын
just wondering if you have a quick answer as to what tile to start from for both mage hand and melee hand if you die and re enter the fight
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
I don't have a good answer for this one :\ Anything can happen when you re-enter Olm's chamber. We dont know where in cycle he will be. I am pretty sure he will keep turning his head on the same tick he was before you died though.
@Cruel_REBIRTH
@Cruel_REBIRTH 7 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot That makes sense. Just go back in and put him back into the cycle. Great videos! i did get my first deathless KC yesterday! The 3-0 mage and 1-0 melee wasnt perfect but we brute forced it haha.
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 7 ай бұрын
@@Cruel_REBIRTH Awesome! Very proud of you. Practice makes perfect, keep it up and go get some solo purps :)
@mysticflow467
@mysticflow467 5 ай бұрын
7:45 at these two clicks at pinky and middle neccesary?
@davidcarp1034
@davidcarp1034 8 ай бұрын
ur a good teacher
@michaelcallahan2645
@michaelcallahan2645 8 ай бұрын
i can get into cycle but the issue im having is even if i find im getting hit by a special i do a 1:0 and on my next round where i go back to 4:1 im still having specials come out. can anybody help me figure this out?
@mattdrifts
@mattdrifts 7 ай бұрын
Your not counting poison trail/crystals as specials are you? Some of em are normal attacks
@alexinho2708
@alexinho2708 8 ай бұрын
bro I swear I can do inferno hmt and any other difficult content that you can imagine but I can't solo cox because there are so many 'IFs'
@mattdrifts
@mattdrifts 7 ай бұрын
Just do 1.0 melee it's an extra stam pot and takes 5mins longer
@youssef893
@youssef893 8 ай бұрын
how do u do mage hand with shadow?
@kye4230
@kye4230 5 ай бұрын
its weird, the methods seem simple, yet im seriously terrible at it lol. all i can think is that im not timing the head right because the actual movement patterns seem so simple
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 5 ай бұрын
I suggest starting with 3:0 and 1:0 to get the head mechanics down. understand how the head works. Dont jump straight into 3:1 or 4:1 until you can do 3:0 perfectly. If youre struggling with 3:0, focus on simply running the head without attacking, just run far left, and far right, and use your visual metronome to understand what tick to "move" on. If olm turns his head on tick 4, you need to click on tick 3 (that way you also run on tick 4). Dont get frustrated, take it slow, go in with a learners mindset and if you die its ok, the only thing you lose is points. Take it small steps at a time, and work your way up to the higher level tech
@kye4230
@kye4230 5 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot definitely right I think where I was going wrong was starting the fight with a dwh spec and then just trying to get in rhythm with the 3:0 but whereas your guides specify starting with the mage to be on a certain tick is what I need to do until I’m more confident with the mechanics of the head
@kye4230
@kye4230 5 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot just fyi, i got perfect olm solo today and it was ezzzzz, confident with getting into cycle at pretty much any time now even if i wasnt paying attention at the beginning, doing 2:0 shadow 3:1 scythe and 4:1 head phase now
@masonanderson6504
@masonanderson6504 8 ай бұрын
you'll see us in the inferno???? we all cant be as much of a gamer as you
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot 8 ай бұрын
I want to make Inferno guides next :D It can be a lot easier for a first-time caper than most people think
@ardechey
@ardechey 8 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBotwe’re all gonna make it bros
@Connor-rh6me
@Connor-rh6me Ай бұрын
Probably a stupid question, but how do you do a 3:1 cycle with lance (where and when do I attack)? If I'm not misataken, there were no 3:1's performed with lance in the video. I assumed that the 3:1 with a scthe would also work for a lance, but somehow I seem to be a tick behind ( i.e. if the head turns on tick 1 I end up on the mid tile on tick 2 in the 4 tick cycle). Maybe I'm mising a tick somewhere? Honestly I'm quite confused. Any advice would be appreciated.
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot Ай бұрын
to do a 3:1 while you are using your 4 tick weapon (lance) you would do: 1.) moving from left to right 2.) hitting from his pinky/ring finger 3.) go straight to his thumb and hit 3rd hit on his thumb then run immediately back left, and get back into your 4:1 cycle!
@Connor-rh6me
@Connor-rh6me Ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot Gotcha, let me give that a shot. That makes sense! Thanks!!
@Connor-rh6me
@Connor-rh6me Ай бұрын
@@VideoGameBot Okay... Yep that makes complete sense now thank you!!!!
@VideoGameBot
@VideoGameBot Ай бұрын
:)
@darthchowder2023
@darthchowder2023 8 ай бұрын
I just stand at the thumb in bis and tank everything praying mage. T-Bow at 172kc. 😂.
@mattdrifts
@mattdrifts 7 ай бұрын
What a credit card warrior
@darthchowder2023
@darthchowder2023 7 ай бұрын
@@mattdrifts rank 60 expert toa...far ...FAR worse than a credit card warrior lol.
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