Masters of the Mandatories - Dorian Yates vs Ronnie Coleman vs Phil Heath

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Tomn8er

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@BoodyAnto
@BoodyAnto 4 жыл бұрын
Dorian: Stone like muscles Ronnie: Huge, Alien detail muscles Heath: Fullness 3D muscles and good poser
@kayledarius4965
@kayledarius4965 3 жыл бұрын
They're all good poser
@cereofficial909
@cereofficial909 3 жыл бұрын
@@kayledarius4965 yup but Phil is the better poser (and Ronnie isn’t really a good poser)
@nathan-lf7yc
@nathan-lf7yc 3 жыл бұрын
marnie and sylas are both bots i would watch out for these
@jomainasdf1433
@jomainasdf1433 3 жыл бұрын
@@cereofficial909 agree
@Gnybr
@Gnybr 3 жыл бұрын
@@cereofficial909 Dorian is without a doubt the best poser, Phil in second, and Ronnie bare none the worst.
@davidchung2953
@davidchung2953 5 жыл бұрын
Ronnie's rear lat spread looks alien
@ananddeonarine1650
@ananddeonarine1650 4 жыл бұрын
Nah its mohammed beniziza joel stubbs for lats of all time
@hmackprotection1
@hmackprotection1 4 жыл бұрын
Anand Deonarine HorseShit
@ImYourHuckleberry_29
@ImYourHuckleberry_29 4 жыл бұрын
@@hmackprotection1 you're a casual. That ^ dude knows what hes talking about. Also Orville Burke.
@skycorrigan6511
@skycorrigan6511 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like he can fly away
@Jayskiallthewayski
@Jayskiallthewayski 5 жыл бұрын
The shadow, the king and the gift. That says it all.
@flex1481
@flex1481 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@enjoythemomentsbywailai
@enjoythemomentsbywailai 3 жыл бұрын
El Pepe, Ete Sech, Potaxio
@kevinmccarthy8746
@kevinmccarthy8746 3 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL!!
@CaseyJohn-ki8eo
@CaseyJohn-ki8eo Жыл бұрын
It doesn't really say much....who's the best is the question
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 5 жыл бұрын
Phil's brachioradialis is its own person.
@trk4973
@trk4973 5 жыл бұрын
Just Some Guy without a Mustache in those videos he does where he answers questions from fans, when he moves his arms his brachioradialis fucking giggles around their so huge
@timjones7336
@timjones7336 5 жыл бұрын
Just Some Guy without a Mustache Brachiasaurous
@Sealed_Chamber
@Sealed_Chamber 5 жыл бұрын
Oh.
@nonamefounder
@nonamefounder 5 жыл бұрын
He has hangers for forearms.
@ayrmarcos8420
@ayrmarcos8420 4 жыл бұрын
The best brachioradialis ever in bb! I knew who is Phil with bodybuilders in back posers look at his forearms and neck
@chideraalexanderdex547
@chideraalexanderdex547 5 жыл бұрын
Wow your breakdown and knowledge of onstage bodybuilding really highlights the complexities of the sport and the in depth analysis is so spot on and really enlightening. Your channel is the best for hardcore bodybuilding fans. Much love from Nigeria... Best bodybuilding channel I have ever seen
@turtlepowersf
@turtlepowersf 5 жыл бұрын
Sport?? it's a male beauty pageant
@chrismotter3790
@chrismotter3790 4 жыл бұрын
Dorian's side tricep is one of the most aesthetically pleasing things I've ever seen. 11:50
@ryderwest5827
@ryderwest5827 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@nissimlevy3762
@nissimlevy3762 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer bikini babes
@foarfield
@foarfield 3 жыл бұрын
I think there's no way you can't give that shot to phil.
@dj_m19
@dj_m19 3 жыл бұрын
@@foarfield other than the triceps themselves he has nothing on Yates. And even there he doesn't have the separation that Yates did. Just look at the bulging clearly separated horseshoe on Yates. Where's Phil's? Nowhere to be found.
@samraizshoaib585
@samraizshoaib585 3 жыл бұрын
@@dj_m19 Shoulders and side leg? Phil's are clearly seperated but the lighting isn't bright enough to show the seperation properly. They're Also striated.
@merlin4398
@merlin4398 5 жыл бұрын
Given Phil's narrowness, but overall 3D effect, Phil holds his own.
@arisart22
@arisart22 5 жыл бұрын
Only on pics tho.. He looks slightly better on the back double bi but if you make them stand side by side, Ronnie's size and width would overpower him.
@merlin4398
@merlin4398 5 жыл бұрын
@@arisart22 When l say " holds his own"- l meant when his name was called and he walked out on stage, you knew why he was Mr O. Those 2 both had size over Phil, and that's it.l have yet to read of either Dorian or Ronnie having a 3D effect. That's all. Thx
@arisart22
@arisart22 5 жыл бұрын
@@merlin4398 Levrone had a 3D effect and he lost to Dorian and Ronnie. Phil has body parts that is clearly better than Dorian but he doesn't have any real advantage over Ronnie. At the end of the day, that 3D effect is just an "illusion" and Ronnie's sheer size would be too much. It'll be a clear win for Ronnie imo. You could only give the side tri to Phil. Plus both at their best is just as conditioned as Phil.
@merlin4398
@merlin4398 5 жыл бұрын
@@arisart22 I understand what you saying, completely. However the luxury Phil has over Kevin, is that he did not have to compete against either Ronnie or Dorian. The 90's bodybuilding era was pretty stacked, and its very possible that Phil could have been lost in the mix had he competed back then. I think one of the reasons Ronnie won over the likes of Kevin, Flex & most certainly over Shawn, was being taller. The same goes for Dorian.l believe that had Ronnie or Dorian both been 5'6", the judges would have given the title to Flex or someone taller. It's political as well. We don't elect short Presidents in the modern age, at least in the US.
@Imperialbbuilding
@Imperialbbuilding 5 жыл бұрын
@@arisart22 Kevin's back or legs were nothing in Phils, end of discussion
@pantheraleo2490
@pantheraleo2490 5 жыл бұрын
Dorian at his prime was just so solid looking. Great conditioning
@dleigh9997
@dleigh9997 5 жыл бұрын
@@dereknapier836 well said 👍
@mikebird5148
@mikebird5148 5 жыл бұрын
They all have there genetic superiority, Dorian had that granite hard condition, Ronnie had that silver back gorilla size while still having INSANE condition , and Phil is so round and 3Dish......Ronnie and Phil IMO have genetically better body parts but Yates could hit poses better.
@ananddeonarine1650
@ananddeonarine1650 4 жыл бұрын
@@dereknapier836 greatest back because he was not tall like arnold the christmas tree back arnold had the best back ever second yo yates
@fender1000100
@fender1000100 4 жыл бұрын
@@dereknapier836 PERFECTLY SAID. Thats why he won 6 Olympias. In all honesty im not sure he deserved 1997. But in 1993 he presented a STANDARD. They still havent really surpassed.
@laOrzy
@laOrzy 4 жыл бұрын
Derek Napier I think jay has him on calves but I’ll like Dorian overall
@dewayneknight3211
@dewayneknight3211 5 жыл бұрын
Dorian Yates is the all time champ in the "cool" factor; his expression is always so relaxed; almost bored. His expression showed no effort.
@blackeesh463
@blackeesh463 5 жыл бұрын
He gets smoked by "Possessed" Paul Dillet
@diabolical92
@diabolical92 5 жыл бұрын
Dorian yates is the one to be blamed to bring the freaky mass monster look n physique to the perspective n that enrolled the future competitors to bring that level ...so that they can be somewhat enchanced to the benchmark that was set by Yates n hence they were one level up to the mark where the competition ended
@HardbrasH1
@HardbrasH1 5 жыл бұрын
The Shadow
@baltazarpacheco8035
@baltazarpacheco8035 5 жыл бұрын
Chintu Kamina I find it intriguing how quick you are to blame Dorian. It’s not like he consciously knew what he was doing in terms of bringing about a new generation of mass monsters. We have to examine Dorian within the context in which he operated. He was doing whatever he could at the time to get ahead which training harder if necessary to pack on mass. So yes maybe he did influence this new generation of mass monsters but he did so indirectly instead of directly. That’s just how I see it. 👍
@diabolical92
@diabolical92 5 жыл бұрын
@@baltazarpacheco8035 Yes I agree with you he was doing his best to hold onto that championship title n while doing this he set the new standards unknowingly!!!
@nero3901
@nero3901 4 жыл бұрын
Tomn8er: “He was just too thicc... that ass was overpowering”
@marxmaxmuscle1
@marxmaxmuscle1 5 жыл бұрын
this is a gem of a video. man i love dorians side tricep. best of all time
@myflesh10
@myflesh10 5 жыл бұрын
I agree best side tricep, Cutler not far behind
@god985
@god985 5 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Roelly Winklaar
@dj_m19
@dj_m19 3 жыл бұрын
@@god985 fine, I'll tell him. Then what?
@Adam-bw6dj
@Adam-bw6dj 2 ай бұрын
​@god985 Roelly's Triceps are better but he doesn't hit the pose better.
@BatmanBoss
@BatmanBoss 5 жыл бұрын
Tomin8ter! Solid topic choice as usual Who doesn’t love comparisons of the best of the Champions
@kungfuman82
@kungfuman82 5 жыл бұрын
Obligatory "Paul Dillett would smoke these fools" comment.
@ryutenmen
@ryutenmen 5 жыл бұрын
In crucifix and praying mantis pose he would ;) While on mandatory poses, his side chest was not bad and his Abs & thighs was excellent.
@fender1000100
@fender1000100 4 жыл бұрын
No he was ugly in face and body. Thats why despite his freakish size he won next to nothing. The same with Nasser El Sonbatty. Nobody wants to see those faces too often. Of all the mass monsters. Dorian 1993 is as good as it got before he tore his left bicep. Both in his pre contest pics and on the stage. He set a standard theyre still trying to match. Coleman won 8 Olympias with average calves and average triceps. Heath looks like a squatty michelin man. Anytime your delts look bigger than your pecs as in his case. HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM. The fact he could take 7 olympias with that TERRIBLE balance in proportion. Speaks volumes for how far the sport of bodybuilding has fallen. Its basically become a freak show about who can put the most drugs in their system AND LIVE. FFS bring back CLASSIC BODYBUILDING FAST.
@jerryjames9502
@jerryjames9502 4 жыл бұрын
THAT'S WHY HE HAS SO MANY WINS,,,HAHAHAHAHA
@shahabazbagwan9776
@shahabazbagwan9776 4 жыл бұрын
AestheticBiker82 he was a real mass monster
@attractiveglass
@attractiveglass 4 жыл бұрын
PROJECT DX Dorian won with average biceps and glutes. Ronnie clearly raised the bar that Dorian set. Did you not watch the video mate?
@alexpiterson2384
@alexpiterson2384 4 жыл бұрын
Ronnie at his best, best of all time.
@falkkleinhans869
@falkkleinhans869 4 жыл бұрын
Phil*
@thanosrammos482
@thanosrammos482 4 жыл бұрын
Falk Kleinhans stfu ,Big Ron was the best
@lukavanettikoven
@lukavanettikoven 4 жыл бұрын
@@falkkleinhans869 ronnie was way better
@nishanttomar5035
@nishanttomar5035 4 жыл бұрын
No one in this whole universe can beat Ronnie at his prime no one
@johnvick8861
@johnvick8861 4 жыл бұрын
@@falkkleinhans869 f off romnie can smoke him anyday
@gregkidgell2018
@gregkidgell2018 3 жыл бұрын
Man Ive watched a number of your videos now and huge compliments man. Your comments and opinions are excellent, well justified, fair and educational... Really great work, thanks man
@mackenziek8499
@mackenziek8499 4 жыл бұрын
Big Ron will always be the 🐐🐐
@jackrogers3270
@jackrogers3270 5 жыл бұрын
Dorian still smokes everyone with his condition even though this photos were taken 2decades ago imagine with today's camera quality he looks unreal.
@derderdeinemutterfickt4936
@derderdeinemutterfickt4936 4 жыл бұрын
jack Rogers no, the cameras of the 90‘s were in favour for the guys
@ngatiwarrior6975
@ngatiwarrior6975 4 жыл бұрын
@@derderdeinemutterfickt4936 I agree the further you go back there's just something about the camera/lighting that highlights the conditioning , even average bodybuilders back then looked really good I don't think its just the 'era' ..
@wyang4895
@wyang4895 4 жыл бұрын
2 decades ago they were using Kodachrome 64, Fujichrome 100, etc. Trust me, they did not lack in resolution. Where the real difference lays is in the ability to edit pictures afterwards - increase contrast, highlights, etc.
@TheCountDook
@TheCountDook 4 жыл бұрын
@ this is very true. My dad and older brother saw Dorian in person in 1992-1994 mr olympia and ive seen ronnie and phil in person with them aswell and Dorian is hard like granite in person. Ronnie has never had that granite grainy conditioning.
@SuryaGD
@SuryaGD 3 жыл бұрын
The lighting was better back then tho...
@dionisis0018
@dionisis0018 5 жыл бұрын
I agree.Dorian was the best in the mandatories.But i wish we could see them standing next to each other cause Phil's 3D muscle,Ronnie's size and Dorian's dryness would make each physique stand out in different ways!!!
@dominikdavid3044
@dominikdavid3044 5 жыл бұрын
For real, what a controversy happen if these 3 guy could compete in 1 show :D:D
@doosian76
@doosian76 5 жыл бұрын
Take in perspective taking better quality pictures as Phil and Coleman have alot better quality , and making the pictures exakt same size. As a fan of bodybuilding 30 years and competing . I belive that Yates was the most dominant mr O ever , he was a freak and first 6 years he stood next to wheeler coleman kevin levrone cormier nasser and the list of very good prime bodybuilders then was longer than later . Everyone knows yates won when bodybuilding had is prime years .
@dhtj3618
@dhtj3618 5 жыл бұрын
Lol his not the best
@dudedude7650
@dudedude7650 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Karlsson Yates was not the most dominant lol
@levanmuradashvili2769
@levanmuradashvili2769 5 жыл бұрын
@@dudedude7650 he was. Too complete in mandatories. Ronnie got bigger but that means shit when your conditioning and mandatory poses got worse. Phil is not even case here, he doesnt win any pose against 93 Dorian. not a single one
@Mocroskate
@Mocroskate 5 жыл бұрын
You hands down blow all the other channels out of the water when it comes to in dept comparison. You're just on another level man it's surreal.
@Tomn8er
@Tomn8er 5 жыл бұрын
Thx man :)
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 4 жыл бұрын
Phil is good, Dorian is THE Shadow but nobody beats RONNIE COLEMAN in his prime!
@johnvick8861
@johnvick8861 4 жыл бұрын
Flex wheeler would
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnvick8861 I Love Flex, he's the 'Sultan of Symmetry'; but he ain't beating the GOAT in his Prime. Period.
@iambodybuildingyt221
@iambodybuildingyt221 3 жыл бұрын
Yup true
@iambodybuildingyt221
@iambodybuildingyt221 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnvick8861 Flex is my favorite Bodybuilder of all time and had my favorite physique of all time but he wouldn't even come close to Ronnie Coleman in his prime.
@johnvick8861
@johnvick8861 3 жыл бұрын
@@iambodybuildingyt221 yea man I love his physique too🙏
@liftingweights4413
@liftingweights4413 5 жыл бұрын
So now it’s clear that Ronnie is the best of all time 🤷🏾‍♂️
@austincarey7504
@austincarey7504 5 жыл бұрын
Ferdinand Vanko I get what you’re saying but I think if they stood next to each other you’d see that Ronnie was more conditioned and had more mass. Every pose would be close but besides side tricep and abs and thigh idk if Phil beats Ronnie in any pose.
@ArMiNiSfUCkinRedicK
@ArMiNiSfUCkinRedicK 4 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is the freakyest....dorian always got gifts got smoked by shawn ray and nassar el sonboty so hes my least favorite
@hmackprotection1
@hmackprotection1 4 жыл бұрын
Lifting Weights it’s Crystal clear.
@ximen459
@ximen459 5 жыл бұрын
Mixed with both mandatory poses aaand posing. Dorian wins it by miles. Sure he wasn't a Kai Greene, but he kept his routines so intense and proffesional that the competetion would be over before comparisons started
@Tomn8er
@Tomn8er 5 жыл бұрын
Yes plus he was the only one of them who seemed to put together properly choreographed routines. Half the time it looked like Ronnie and Phil were just winging it
@doosian76
@doosian76 5 жыл бұрын
He was alot better than in this old pictures , take him in hd today and you would see how insane condition he had , looking at the finals i find some pictures that blows everyones minds. He was 40 % better than in this pictures , just google yates and pictures and find good ones some from finals in 96 and 97 then we can talk.
@Alienspecies635
@Alienspecies635 5 жыл бұрын
@@doosian76 40% ? Wow!
@BogdanPW641
@BogdanPW641 2 жыл бұрын
Dorian cannot win bro.Lets say that they had similar good back,Roonie stil had way better legs,arms and shoulders bruh
@eriond3701
@eriond3701 2 жыл бұрын
@@BogdanPW641 better arms? dorian has bigger forearms and better triceps, ronnie only beats him in the biceps and delts
@awakeningtovacuity8372
@awakeningtovacuity8372 5 жыл бұрын
At his best, Ronnie would have beaten Phil at his best.
@flex1481
@flex1481 5 жыл бұрын
At his best, Big Ron beats EVERYONE.
@hmackprotection1
@hmackprotection1 4 жыл бұрын
Aflex1481 🎯Exactly
@Hfidon
@Hfidon 2 жыл бұрын
The pic you chose of Ronnie at the end is hilarious even years later it's funnier each time.
@shantikumarlongjam4530
@shantikumarlongjam4530 5 жыл бұрын
The Goat, The Gift , King Ron, The Shadow... they all got nicknames cuz thy r the legends of bodybuilding🤘
@85mcarnold
@85mcarnold 5 жыл бұрын
Since we had a tie at #2 and 3 I think it would be interesting to rescore with Jay in the callout. He would definitely upset things.
@leotorrejos2582
@leotorrejos2582 8 ай бұрын
Damn that was a hard competition esp the back part
@PROfaniteez
@PROfaniteez 5 жыл бұрын
If you talk to the people who were actually there in person seeing both Ronnie and Phil compete (Dexter Jackson, Jay Cutler, Tony Doherty) it's not even close, Ronnie wins easily every time. Respect to Ronnie, the King, the GOAT !
@karthickdevaraj8467
@karthickdevaraj8467 2 жыл бұрын
When Jay can give good competition to Ronnie think what phil have done, because don't have good back phil has. Phil has better triceps than Ronnie, better ab and thigh and most muscular pose. Backshot depends on judge anyone can win. Winning best Phil even for best Ronnie is not easy.
@timjones7336
@timjones7336 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a video Tom. I always felt Ronnie was a pretty lousy poser, Phil is okay, can’t hide his dimensions but the way he arches his back in the rear shots makes for great photos!.. but Dorian always nailed his poses 100%. He sat nicely in the poses and always looked cool, confident and in control. Watch videos of him and it’s in his body language, he’s the only one of the 3 that gives his full attention to every single pose.
@stanislawkolasinski951
@stanislawkolasinski951 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like his close legged stance, it takes away from the x frame, but that's just my opinion
@jonk.8284
@jonk.8284 5 жыл бұрын
Most underrated bodybuilding channel on YT. You're right up there with the likes of NSP and I hope you see exponential growth in the years to come.
@sbsb4995
@sbsb4995 4 жыл бұрын
My pick is Dorian.
@imcoolwiththat9668
@imcoolwiththat9668 4 жыл бұрын
the number of titles is sooo correct.. they are literally in that order of greatness: 1. ron 2. phill 3. yates
@imcoolwiththat9668
@imcoolwiththat9668 4 жыл бұрын
TheLusianPopa nope, he is in the far 3rd place after those two .. ronnie was bigger with better arms, legs, chest, back, seperation etc.. and Phill was way more developed overall and better 3D apearance (arms, quads, simetry, even the back at one point, almost everything was better than Yates .. Yates only had the conditioning on both of them, thats not enough ..
@BogdanPW641
@BogdanPW641 2 жыл бұрын
@@imcoolwiththat9668 Yes.Roonie 1st Phil 2nd and Dorian 3nd.
@cupidpuneet
@cupidpuneet 4 жыл бұрын
Man Your Choice of Content for making videos is Awesome.
@guygraham8016
@guygraham8016 5 жыл бұрын
Tom your critics are quite accurate snd your eye has developed tremendously from your early critic/comparisons. Good on you mate youve grown the channel and done very well.
@Tomn8er
@Tomn8er 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks appreciate that! I feel like I've learned a fair amount just by reading all your guys' comments over the past couple years :)
@julez2106
@julez2106 5 жыл бұрын
The shadow🙌🏼
@RocStone
@RocStone 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with most except the crab most muscular... Ronnie takes that one!
@brooklynmitrica577
@brooklynmitrica577 4 жыл бұрын
Phils shoulders are way to good for Ronnie and looks better in the overall bigger picture
@Trenacetate43
@Trenacetate43 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with that one but back double biceps obviously goes to Ronnie, no way phil is beating him with smaller back and pretty much almost the same definition with smaller glutes
@RocStone
@RocStone 4 жыл бұрын
either way, if they were standing in person side by side in their primes, Ronnie would easily win due to his size, phil and Dorian would just be too small...
@brandonvice4234
@brandonvice4234 4 жыл бұрын
There's a better photo for Ronnie that smokes Phil so definitely Ronnie's, he picked a not as good pic
@RocStone
@RocStone 4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonvice4234 I agree
@michelegiaimeserra1128
@michelegiaimeserra1128 5 жыл бұрын
if you made a ten hour video about anything bodybuilding related, i would skip anything i would be doing to watch it
@Srbenda126
@Srbenda126 5 жыл бұрын
Shawn Ray had a pathetic back lat spread FBD 3. Phil: Great forearms with buldging brachioradialis. His biceps was is big, long and shreded but lacks the peak and shape is not very aesthetic. Good triceps sweep, good and separated quads, decent calves. What ruins this pose for him is the narrow shoulders and you need wide shoulders for this classic pose. Also although he has a small waist that midsection is not defined and it is protruding. Because of this he slightly falls behind Dorian 2. Dorian: Huuge forearms and calves. His biceps were not shit before the tear, but still mediocre. 0 triceps sweep, big -! midsection is completely flat, legs lack the quad sweep and have weird shape, but cuts are the deepest of the 3. Wide as a house with the best lat flare. Just looks more comfortable holding the pose and I put him slightly in front of Phil 1. Ronnie: Biceps has a mountain peak and is shreded as fuck, maybe the belly is a bit small but still by far the best biceps here. Wide shoulders, great lats and great best quads out of the 3. Triceps seep is like a valley, probably the best in history because of his huge outer triceps head. Midsection is ugly, but still flatter than Heath. Forearms are mediocre and calves are shit, but he still takes the pose easily FLS 3. Phil: Watery abs, narrow clavicles, pecs are squashed, lats are overpowered by huge arms. Lower section is good but still his pose is bad 2. Ronnie: Abs are split, chest is very well detailed with striations. Arms are good but maybe too big and overpowering the lats, but not nearly as much as Phil. Lats are big and wide but not as big as Dorian's. And he doesn't hit the pose nearly as well as DOrian, he does not look as stable, powerful and comfortable as Dorian. Quads are great, calves not so much 1. Dorian: Do I even need to explain? He looks he can take flight with those Boing 747 lats. Posture is perfest, looks very natural hiting it. CHest is flexed perfectly and detailed, shoulders look good, legs have deep cuts... mediocre arms but they don't ruin the pose. Winner by a mile SC 3. Dorian: Inferion muscle bellies and insertions. The most conditioned and grainy. Chest is greatly detailed and thick, but bad shape and insertion. Upper arms and shoulders look really bad despite great forearms. Lower body is ok. Ok pose for him, but he can't compete with Ronnie and Phil 2. Phil: Insane chest thickness, insane arms and delts and that brachioradialis is just alien. Midsection in control and lower body is shreded with great hang in the hamstrings. He is a bit narrow and his chest is small, and that gives the pose to Ronnie despite this being an almost unbeatable pose for him 1. Ronnie: Insane chest, very big, thick and detailed. Shreded and big shoulders. They don't pop out like Phils's but they are bigger and more detailed. Lower body is out of this world. Arms are thick, but forearms are underwelming. I give him the pose over Phil because he hits the pose more comfortable and has superior chest BDB: My god, all 3 are terrific, how do I do this 3. Dorian: His back the best. From the back, his traps are the best ih history of bb and are fucking separated. Name one bodybuilder that has trap separation. Just insane level od detail, ultra low lats, christmas tree, cow calves and giant forearms. His arms ruin the posewith 0 biceps peak and short humerus bone. His glutes and hams were great for his time, but not as good as Phil or Ronnie. He was unbeatable in this pose, but all 3 are so good, I had to put someone 2. Phil: I barely give this pose to Phil over Dorian. Detail in his back is not nearly on Dorian's level, but still better than Ronnie. Very well balanced but lacks the size and width to beat Ronnie 1. Ronnie: Best bdb in bodybuilding history. Loses a bit deatil next to Phil and Dorian, but everything except calves is perfect. Wide and big lats, best glutes and hams ever, huge arms with biceps peaks (bigger than Phil)... Even his lats look better than DOrian's in this pose BLS: again, all 3 dominate the pose, very hard to pick 3. Ronnie: I hate how he leans his head back and how he hits the pose with legs spread like he is about to take a shit. Great is big and thick, but his neck is long and his giant upper traps take away from the width of his lats. His back looks taller than it is wide. Glutes and hams are out of this world, but maybe too much. I think he coudl be much better here 2. Phil is the most detailed, his back is hard as a rock and glutes and hams are great. He even hits the pose perfectly which hides his lack of size and spreads his inferior lats way better than Ronnie. Only thing he lacks is width, but that is the most important 1. DOrian: lats are ultra wide and massive and he spreads the lats perfectly with great posture. His back kinda loses detail here, but he still holds the pose with grace. And just admire how wide his traps are. I give him the win because back is more important than glutes and hams. He outposes Ronnie and outspreads Phil ST: 3. Ronnie is shit, no need to explain. Weak lateral triceps head, shit abs, awkard posing... 2. Phil: Insane delts and triceps, but doesn't hit the pose nearly as well as Dorian and has problems with midsection (lacks the detail) and lacks conditioning to match Dorian 1. Dorian: Crisp triceps head, perfect posture, aesthetic chest and sharp midsection A&T 3. Phil: SMall ribcage, lacks definition in serratus and obliques, lacks lat size... Abs are ugly 4 pack and protruding. quads and calves good but this a pretty weak pose 2. Ronnie: Bad midsection, split 4 pack abs. Big ribcage with flaring lats and great quads, but midsetion is not nearly on Dorian's level 1. Dorian: Insane conditioning, chizzled abs, serratus and obliques, abs are sharp and symetrical 6 pack. Waist is a bit thick and legs lack size, but lats are humongous and so are calves. He wins this easily MM: 3. Dorian: great thickness and conditioning, but poor muscle bellies 2. Ronnie: Great is hands clasped, but not as good in crab pose 1. Phil beats Ronnie with 3D popping 3D shoulders better forearms and just as good upper arms. Chicken chest ruins the pose a bit, but it is insanely thick Dorian : 15 Ronnie : 15 Phil: 18
@dleigh9997
@dleigh9997 5 жыл бұрын
What's FBD? Lol
@Srbenda126
@Srbenda126 5 жыл бұрын
@@dleigh9997 Yeah my english is cancer, I wrote this comment fucked up
@dleigh9997
@dleigh9997 5 жыл бұрын
@@Srbenda126 lol it's cool we knew what you ment mate I was just kidding
@jolee2433
@jolee2433 5 жыл бұрын
Like Dorian said a good big guy beats a good smaller guy. Ronnie 1 Dorian 2 Phil 3
@MR12AMAZING
@MR12AMAZING 5 жыл бұрын
joo lee Big in what sense. Heath is 5ft 9, Yates 5ft 10, Coleman 5ft 10.5. Literally only a inch and a half height difference.
@fatboy5926
@fatboy5926 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie had absolutely world class all time - front and back poses, side chest and most muscular. That’s 6 all time world class poses out of 8….. fucking insane
@mambawgn7747
@mambawgn7747 5 жыл бұрын
I really agree with you here, I think jay cutler goes underrated for a 4 time because all his losses to Ronnie. Jay and Ronnie were so close and 3rd place was always miles behind the two.
@pinostickley1817
@pinostickley1817 5 жыл бұрын
Great video tomn8er mikeys strength and fitness told me about your channel its awsome
@scoelliot15
@scoelliot15 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, legendary bodybuilders! I’d love to see a video of current and also past bodybuilders in a comparison video like this!
@MCDesign199
@MCDesign199 3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion, but I really, really think that Dorian Yates is like the most overrated multiple Olympia winner, I just never thought his Physique was very impressive to me, I was always convinced that many of the great guys he was up against looked better than him. If I had to nail it down its the massive assymetry. His abs, lower and upper back and arms are so assymetrical that it just makes his poses look lackluster to me when compared to other great bodybuilders
@mihai3872
@mihai3872 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are so good at this! Keep doing it and I'm sure your channel will grow like crazy
@mrhercules2107
@mrhercules2107 5 жыл бұрын
Dorian ALL DAY!!!
@hmackprotection1
@hmackprotection1 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Hercules wrong
@guygraham8016
@guygraham8016 5 жыл бұрын
Your closing comments are outstandingly accurate.
@dleigh9997
@dleigh9997 5 жыл бұрын
Ronnie kills phil in the most muscular. Too much size
@dommesander7748
@dommesander7748 5 жыл бұрын
dale Wilson no
@kendesjarlais7577
@kendesjarlais7577 4 жыл бұрын
cosmo was taken you're only a woman- you know nothing
@marcosbona8260
@marcosbona8260 4 жыл бұрын
In the pics used there is less than a 10 pound difference. His advantage is only in the width
@kingryuga9710
@kingryuga9710 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Phil somewhat appears way wider in the MM while hitting it while on the other hand Ronnie seem to shrink in his witdh. I don't see Ronnie beating any MM Pose against Phil.
@dalewilson9602
@dalewilson9602 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingryuga9710 keep off drugs mug. Ronnie was wider , more muscular and bigger
@blankspace4358
@blankspace4358 2 жыл бұрын
Man this really made me appreciate Phil Heath
@nesut_the1st
@nesut_the1st 5 жыл бұрын
RONNIE DEFINITELY THE BEST OF ALL TIME...
@goldburnm
@goldburnm 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work coming up with this. Not a topic I'd considered before. Here I have to give Dorian his props in that I've always hated his physique and yet he always did so well with the mandatories. I think Ronnie and Phil have more naturally pleasing physiques, which helped them.
@Tomn8er
@Tomn8er 5 жыл бұрын
Word. Dorian has gradually grown on me over the years to the point where I can now - somewhat grudgingly - appreciate him. (Always used to kinda hate him for constantly beating much more aesthetic bodybuilders especially my three faves lol)
@chideraalexanderdex547
@chideraalexanderdex547 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tomn8er three faves Kevin, Shawn and flex right?
@Tomn8er
@Tomn8er 5 жыл бұрын
@Chidera Nkameme yup
@bestcryptoearningsites7149
@bestcryptoearningsites7149 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tomn8er I ve always thought that Dorians greatness comes from the fact that he had to battle with far more genetically gifted bodybuilders than him, and he was able to prevail by outworking all of them. His work ethics, discipline and mind approach to the sport are unparalleled.
@xaviervega468
@xaviervega468 3 жыл бұрын
@@bestcryptoearningsites7149 Yeah but Dorian's win over Nasser in 97 was pure bullshit.
@kentong2033
@kentong2033 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro! Dorian n Ronnie r great champions n great ambassadors of the sport n that speaks volumes to the fans! :)
@robives7047
@robives7047 5 жыл бұрын
Great choice of topic
@Narsimha_thapa_official
@Narsimha_thapa_official 5 жыл бұрын
These three are top three bodybuilders in bodybuilding history
@ananddeonarine1650
@ananddeonarine1650 4 жыл бұрын
Three worst bodybuilders in bodybuilding history
@ralphcoccio3799
@ralphcoccio3799 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis, as always.
@nathan-lf7yc
@nathan-lf7yc 3 жыл бұрын
11:22 i feel like dorians legs almost look small here. I'm not completely sure but I feel like phils and rons thighs look wayyy bigger
@ohmy9261
@ohmy9261 3 жыл бұрын
Bc they are
@GTOberfest
@GTOberfest 5 жыл бұрын
Dorian gets the back double bi..imo..what he lacks in biceps his calves make up for it. Plus his Christmas tree/conditioning is superior.
@Richard-mg7dj
@Richard-mg7dj 5 жыл бұрын
If u only take the picure into consideration yes but than in may opinion heath takes the lat back spread, although in reality he probably wouldnt
@Ikindapray
@Ikindapray 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Bicep peak is NOT a main deciding factor in who wins poses😂
@fsrsaa
@fsrsaa 5 жыл бұрын
Agree. His calves and back take the cake in this pose.
@awakeningtovacuity8372
@awakeningtovacuity8372 5 жыл бұрын
Back double bicep should have gone to Yates.
@dr.heinzdoofenshmirtz4463
@dr.heinzdoofenshmirtz4463 5 жыл бұрын
Out of these three ,i want a physique like Dorian
@OfficialNathanielMassiah
@OfficialNathanielMassiah 5 жыл бұрын
I think your sizing for this video was a bit off. Ronnie was the biggest out of them yet in some poses he looked the smallest like the front double bicep at 3:55
@emantavassoli2523
@emantavassoli2523 5 жыл бұрын
Phil, Dorian, and Ronnie are the 3 best to ever walk on a bodybuilding stage.
@Danimal77
@Danimal77 5 жыл бұрын
AND Lee Haney!!! 8 time Mr. O.
@artas9371
@artas9371 2 жыл бұрын
@@Danimal77 Haney would get eaten against prime any of these 3
@629O
@629O 5 жыл бұрын
The 90s had some of the best lighting. Today’s lighting is just garbage.
@shania-antonio6425
@shania-antonio6425 3 жыл бұрын
Europa-Spain 2021 and Arnold Classic UK 2021 is perhaps the worst. I canbarely see the bodybuilder with that dark and fuzzy aesthetics that is the lighting!
@johnbest4513
@johnbest4513 Жыл бұрын
This video was awesome.
@kevinmccarthy8746
@kevinmccarthy8746 3 жыл бұрын
I just think Phil looks better.
@Harambe8
@Harambe8 5 жыл бұрын
Love videos like this!
@Splitscreen83
@Splitscreen83 2 ай бұрын
Dorian was unstoppable overall. His posing routines were awesome too. True legend.
@retsamcm
@retsamcm 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a side view of the rear lat spread from these three to see the difference in torso angle.
@ananddeonarine1650
@ananddeonarine1650 4 жыл бұрын
Thats the only way to measure this sd shit they rate phil with big ramy is the ultimete uncrowned champ
@Trenacetate43
@Trenacetate43 4 жыл бұрын
For me: FDB - Ronnie Front Lat Spread - Dorian Side Chest - Ronnie BDB - Ronnie Back Lat Spread - Ronnie Side Tri - Dorian Abs and Thighs - Dorian Hand clasped MM - Phil Crab MM - Phil Total (Ronnie 4, Dorian 3, Phil 2)
@Sean-if7rp
@Sean-if7rp 5 жыл бұрын
Your eyes get drawn to Dorian every time in the back double bi, absolutely dwarfs the others with size and makes them look poorly conditioned, otherwise quite agreeable list
@Tomn8er
@Tomn8er 5 жыл бұрын
Partly that's some favourable lighting making everything pop more. Compare it to this one for example: www.ambal.ru/man.php?m=143&im=18165
@sigurdh.s8320
@sigurdh.s8320 5 жыл бұрын
Sean McGeeney Dorian dwarfing Ronnie? Yeah, I don’t think so
@heiligerjesus1960
@heiligerjesus1960 5 жыл бұрын
Ronnie has 30 pounds of muscle on dorian, his back is like a half feet wider, dont be an idiot youre embarrassing yourself
@Srbenda126
@Srbenda126 5 жыл бұрын
@@heiligerjesus1960 Ronnie was not bigger than Dorian. They weighted about the same in the offseason, difference is Dorian cut down more weight to get superior conditioning. Only time Ronnie came close to Dorian's level of conditioning was in 98'and he weighted just under 250 lbs. Dorian at his peak conditioning was 257 lbs. Dorian could have easily come on stage at 280 lbs like Ronnie in 03'
@marijancorluka4500
@marijancorluka4500 5 жыл бұрын
Dorian gets smoked in the lower body from the rear and also has terrible biceps, so no.
@thissmithymanga7119
@thissmithymanga7119 5 жыл бұрын
Dorians side tri is just godly
@dongunlim
@dongunlim 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel brother. Keep up the great content. With that said. Coleman would blow away heath if they stood next to each other. Yes, Heath looks great in the photos but you’re not taking into account that Ronnie was 2 inches taller, many pounds heavier and just as conditioned. He would dwarf Heath with his height, width and mass.
@Demotri11
@Demotri11 2 жыл бұрын
Phil's Aesthetics are second to none. Everything is so balanced and it looks better to my eye. Probably one of the reasons I'm not an Olympia judge
@tlenkeeb829
@tlenkeeb829 5 жыл бұрын
Dorians conditioning is far superior and its harder to see the detail with the older photographs and hes lighter skinned too.
@aleksi.niemela
@aleksi.niemela 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a video on your channel where you do not metion Shawn Ray lol
@cristiannoel443
@cristiannoel443 4 жыл бұрын
Man dorian looks rock solid
@fainwhite4823
@fainwhite4823 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a link to that awesome picture of Dorian Yates while he was comparing the crab most muscular pose?
@MattGaetzOnAWhiteFordBronco
@MattGaetzOnAWhiteFordBronco Жыл бұрын
For someone criticized about his posing routines, Dorian did invest a lot of effort in making his mandatory poses look their absolute best. Ronnie did not, and Heath, while incredibly gifted, did not hone the mandatories to a diamond polish.
@doublem1975x
@doublem1975x 2 жыл бұрын
Coleman is the best. Front double, side chest, back double, rear lat spread, most muscular. Lights out, game over.
@ciroalphalyon3662
@ciroalphalyon3662 5 жыл бұрын
great video!
@mohitdabral1785
@mohitdabral1785 2 жыл бұрын
Yates is nothing in front of Colman
@juanaguirre6153
@juanaguirre6153 3 жыл бұрын
Why not Ronnie 03?
@JerryRiceBall
@JerryRiceBall Жыл бұрын
Phil always looks severely constipated while posing.
@hristokozhuharov2585
@hristokozhuharov2585 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy, how would Big Rami do against the best versiona of Yates, Ronnie and Heath?
@testtset7946
@testtset7946 3 жыл бұрын
Look like npc
@richfeather
@richfeather 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. I’d argue Yates’ back-double bicep was better than Ronnie’s and Phil’s only because his back was shredded. Tough call, though. Good analysis.
@boscar9014
@boscar9014 5 жыл бұрын
Phil Heaths back is mr Olympia worthy all day long, once he fixes that bubble gut he’s gonna come back for that Olympia
@derekweinerttv4163
@derekweinerttv4163 5 жыл бұрын
This comment didnt age well
@marijancorluka4500
@marijancorluka4500 5 жыл бұрын
@@derekweinerttv4163 Why?
@dragonboy141
@dragonboy141 3 жыл бұрын
Man even compared to other legends Ronnie was just different
@rickymason3762
@rickymason3762 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the all-time Boringest bodybuilding personality? I think Phil might have that one in the bag and kai might be just the opposite..
@Vikfit.
@Vikfit. 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite is phil.. His 3D looks.. Never seen that before..
@j.d.norcross9362
@j.d.norcross9362 5 жыл бұрын
One advantage of Ronnie's posing in the Rear Lat Spread is that it allows him to show off his biceps, gives his arms a really balanced and imposing look. Phil still hits it better though, in my opinion.
@adamheeley285
@adamheeley285 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I still like the gifts abs better, they are just bigger and more square which is my personal preference. Although Id like to see Brandon Curry get his abs up to par cause he is a close second.
@User0155
@User0155 5 жыл бұрын
in the back double bicep I kinda see dorian winning ... well all those 3 backs are insane
@chattratitpisuddhipanwong5813
@chattratitpisuddhipanwong5813 5 жыл бұрын
Turn on automatic caption and have a good laugh. Kevin the brownie and Nasir on somebody.
@jaed2630
@jaed2630 3 жыл бұрын
It's not certain poses for specific body parts. It's all around looks from the angle
@smilsmff
@smilsmff 5 жыл бұрын
at 4:15 Note for those who do not know all 3 are pinching the flab on sides and pulling it forward so you cant see extra Bump everyone refers to as LOVE HANDLE, they got em too do not be fooled
@smilsmff
@smilsmff 5 жыл бұрын
@ 5:35 unfair side comparrison Ronnie is close up others are further away,7:50 Yates is shredded the other two is flabby, im done by 12 min mark, summary Yates looked good at larger size , Coleman looked 100% better when he was in top 10 he is Blowed up like water balloon as he added whatever you want to call that and Heath iis way to thick in mid section as this is what BB Has become
@glenntipton6226
@glenntipton6226 5 жыл бұрын
Why does KZbin have your name is search as Domin8er?
@Kalpesh_Mhatre
@Kalpesh_Mhatre 5 жыл бұрын
Phil Heath takes this for me 👍
@pranaychinta5713
@pranaychinta5713 5 жыл бұрын
You know who is the KING
@jaxzor
@jaxzor 5 жыл бұрын
FDB - Ronnie (Phil coming close) FLS - Dorian (Ronnie coming close) SC - Ronnie (Phil coming close) BDB - Phil (they are all crazy in size , details and symmetry, but Phil has better separation in arms and shoulders) BLS - Phil (Dorian is impressive at size but it looks flat, Ronnie overall is a beast, Phill is just sharper, better detail and shape) ST - Dorian ( Phil coming close) A&T - Dorian (Ronnie has crazy legs but he struggles to hold the pose same does Phil) MM - Phil (Flawless) overall I think Phil Heath 2013 would kill anyone!
@rishipanchal4351
@rishipanchal4351 5 жыл бұрын
Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder ever
@ananddeonarine1650
@ananddeonarine1650 4 жыл бұрын
The worst ever he spoiled the sport and himself too
@hobbs3424
@hobbs3424 5 жыл бұрын
13:10 Dorian pushin that arm hard up against his lats to make that small tricep look big. If Ronnie, Phil or even better Paul Dillett or Lee Priest or the tricep king himself Roelly did that, their triceps would look like quads!!
@dudedude7998
@dudedude7998 5 жыл бұрын
Ronnie wins back double bicep ez
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