Dorian Yates VS Ronnie Coleman - Mr. Olympia 1998

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@fabiofonseca-oz5zy 11 ай бұрын
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@jaya.2424 Жыл бұрын
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@d3tail Жыл бұрын
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@TheZgriffin
@TheZgriffin Жыл бұрын
I can't give Dorian the Rear Lat Spread over Ronnie in this comparison. Only part that is debatable in my opinion all other poses were good takes.
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
ya Ronnie wins it's pretty convincingly. Rounder muscle, even thicker traps, much better lower body. Literally wins everywhere except dryness, but his fullness more than makes up for it.
@jakeh6980
@jakeh6980 9 ай бұрын
Problem with this video, is it’s comparing peak ronnie to a finished Dorian. It would be a much better comparison comparing 98 peak ronnie with 93-95 peak Dorian. 93-95 Dorian beats ronnie all day
@joshualee7427
@joshualee7427 7 ай бұрын
​@@jakeh6980lol not a chance
@mikewazowski737
@mikewazowski737 6 ай бұрын
@TheLusianPopa bodybuilding is all about posing, and ronnie's legs look twice the size of dorian's legs from the back. Dorian poses his legs like toothpicks from the back and ronnie looks way better balanced
@reginaldreynolds3066
@reginaldreynolds3066 3 ай бұрын
@@jakeh6980 Dorian at his peak couldn’t match Ronnie at his peak let’s be real
@heruking4391
@heruking4391 3 ай бұрын
Ronnie definitely won the back lat spread. Ronnie won this comparison.
@daano465
@daano465 Жыл бұрын
I would give both back poses to Ronnie. I used to think otherwise, but he looks insane
@M1tjakaramazov
@M1tjakaramazov 11 ай бұрын
You have to undrestand camera lensing, angle, and lighting makes a big difference. I think the verdict was influenced by the certainty that Dorian Did have wider lats in real life. In some of the clips here even his head looks significantly smaller than Ronnies, so the footage itself is worse.
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 6 ай бұрын
@@M1tjakaramazov nah, go watch them on stage back in 1997 in Russia. The camera shows them both and Ronnie was already bigger than Yates in the back, in 1997. His back is just better, better shape, better thickness. The only area they are close is width. Ronnie was just criminally underrated for a couple years
@dj_m19
@dj_m19 4 ай бұрын
@@paulcox2447 " nah, go watch them on stage back in 1997 in Russia" Dorian was never in Russia and Coleman was just as big in 98 as he was in 97, just leaned out...and with gyno Here's some facts for you: only 247 pounds still not as conditioned, bad gyno that hurt him, barely beat an oiled up (khm syntholed up) soft Flex Wheeler by 3 mere points. That's as close as it gets Dorian: 260+ pounds, more conditioned, no gyno. Kevin Levrone competed against both and said that Yates would beat Coleman in '98 had he competed. Now explain to me in what universe Dorian competed in Russia and in what universe do 247 pounds of muscle look bigger than 260+ pounds of muscle...at the same height? you can keep coping all you want
@robk5745
@robk5745 4 ай бұрын
Strongly disagree. Way more grain and detail out of Dorian’s back, better lower portion of the back. Dorian wins both back poses imo
@davidburrows4801
@davidburrows4801 4 ай бұрын
Dorians back way better his execution of poses also a lot better.
@Guillermoreno02
@Guillermoreno02 8 ай бұрын
Not even a contest. Dorian is flat as hell, 0 pop, Ronnie is just a shredded monster with incedible fullness, the poses do not even matter.
@robk5745
@robk5745 4 ай бұрын
Zero pop? Wtf are you on, Dorian wins this one, far superior detail and conditioning and you could argue takes back double as well. If you saw them both in person together you would be like wtf is that if you saw dorian
@BruceWayne-ri4wr
@BruceWayne-ri4wr 4 ай бұрын
Dorian would've been 15 times better than he was in 97 in 1998 if he had returned because the guy was so motivated, he would've came back probably in the best shape of his life to make up for 97 and he would've crushed Ronnie so even Kevin or Rooney and flex wheeler both said that if Dorian returns in 9899 Ronnie never wins
@FarbenSeher
@FarbenSeher 4 ай бұрын
​@@BruceWayne-ri4wrThat's just delusional, Dorian was a mess in '97, totally wrecked and bloated. He should never have won versus Nasser.
@Splitscreen83
@Splitscreen83 Ай бұрын
​@@FarbenSeher Nasser was full of oil. Everyone knew that, including the judges. Even with Dorian at his worst, he beats any cheat.
@Hfidon
@Hfidon Жыл бұрын
I dislike the concession you made in the RDB, the bicep development is literally in the name, coupled with the lower body makes this an easy W. Their backs are close (Dorian has superior calves no doubt) but everything else in this pose belongs to Ronnie. Overall an amazing video SSMan. You're new and unique approach to revisted content is so refreshing and provides a new perspective on things as a whole. Indeed a massive service to the bodybuilding community 💪
@francescoporcari8597
@francescoporcari8597 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Dorian misses the muscle separation in the back. You can clearly see Ronnie's teres maior. In addition Ronnie is overall more simmetrical.
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
the teres difference is HUGE. Dorian has no sweep in his back double bi. He is V shape instead of an hourglass and lacks thickness compared to his other poses.@@francescoporcari8597
@bio-plasmictoad5311
@bio-plasmictoad5311 11 ай бұрын
Dorian has better muscle condition, But Ronnie looks insane.
@dj_m19
@dj_m19 4 ай бұрын
"the bicep development is literally in the name" It's simply a guide for the competitors to know in which manner to present their ENTIRE PHYSIQUE to the judges. Names mean nothing Examples? Most muscular? why isn't it called most chest-tricep-delt pose?
@reginaldreynolds3066
@reginaldreynolds3066 6 ай бұрын
No way Dorian would have beat Ronnie in 1998 or 2003
@cory2023
@cory2023 2 ай бұрын
93 dorian would have gave him a run for his money
@reginaldreynolds3066
@reginaldreynolds3066 2 ай бұрын
@ i agree
@SeanEvans-mx1gg
@SeanEvans-mx1gg 18 күн бұрын
93 would have been to small promise you that he looked amazing but no way
@Sthiwatari
@Sthiwatari Жыл бұрын
BLS is a pose of Coleman it's just my opinion.
@Supersetman
@Supersetman Жыл бұрын
Close pose indeed...
@sonyx4500
@sonyx4500 Жыл бұрын
​@@SupersetmanClearly Dorian not winning it. Just gave it to him that he don't loose.
@Srbenda126
@Srbenda126 Жыл бұрын
​@@sonyx4500how? Ronnie has better glute ham, Dorian better calves. So slight advantage for Ronnie in lower body. Dorian spreads the lats wider, hits the pose better and tthe bachk is harder. Ronnie's back is a bit meatier and fuller. Slight advantage for Dorian. Back is more important than lower body so it's a slight win for Dorian or a tie. No way Ronnie wins
@sonyx4500
@sonyx4500 Жыл бұрын
@@Srbenda126 Ronnie has better upper traps, smaller waist and appears even wider. Better Thighs, Glutes and hams. So no Dorian is not winning this. Calves are unimportant bodypart.
@Bb0yTaiOne
@Bb0yTaiOne Жыл бұрын
I agree. Based solely on just the video, Ronnie’s back is just as wide but appears thicker and more 3D. With both have similar hardness in the backs. Moving to the lower body, Dorian has the better hamstrings while Ronnie’s glutes are more shredded and massive. But closing the door on overall size of the lower body and legs. I would have to give a 1 point win for Ronnie for better overall completeness
@woahblackbettybamalam
@woahblackbettybamalam Жыл бұрын
I cant see Ronnie getting a 3 point victory in the front double. His gyno was appalling in 98
@smitabhmoitra5726
@smitabhmoitra5726 Жыл бұрын
I agree but the reasoning here was that the judges ignored it, along with Dorian's torn bicep, so it was ignored here too.
@TACT1LE
@TACT1LE Жыл бұрын
He clearly fucking said he was going to ignore the gyno and Dorians missing bicep. Hello?
@woahblackbettybamalam
@woahblackbettybamalam Жыл бұрын
@@TACT1LE Is it me you're look for?
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 11 ай бұрын
Ahh yes, better literally everywhere, except his nipple
@reginaldreynolds3066
@reginaldreynolds3066 3 ай бұрын
@@woahblackbettybamalam Ronnie’s gyno wasn’t as bad as Dorian’s left arm
@woahblackbettybamalam
@woahblackbettybamalam Жыл бұрын
96 was a bad year for Dorian. But that footage is great for 96
@Supersetman
@Supersetman Жыл бұрын
That's why I chose it, but I dont think 96 was all that bad
@woahblackbettybamalam
@woahblackbettybamalam Жыл бұрын
​@@SupersetmanNo he wasn't terrible in 96 but 95 was much fuller look imo
@finn.p8759
@finn.p8759 Жыл бұрын
BLS goes to Ronnie in my opinion, Great Video tho 💪
@TheRealMcCoy88
@TheRealMcCoy88 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have given Dorian the RLS I would of given it to Ronnie, he was better balanced in the pose and has a far bigger and thicker back. I only have Dorian winning the FLS, ST and the Abs & thighs
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
agreed
@dj_m19
@dj_m19 4 ай бұрын
"has a far bigger and thicker back. " yes, a man known for his width at 260+ pounds is FAR SMALLER than a 247 pound bodybuilder, that makes sense Tell me why Jay Cutler says that "there was nothing like it" when he met Dorian and saw his back width? Tell me why Jay Cutler, who competed against the widest and biggest versions of Ronnie, stood next to him in 2 man call outs, still says that Dorian was wider and had the better back lat spread? Can't wait for that reply
@KhanhLe-zy1iy
@KhanhLe-zy1iy Жыл бұрын
Ronnie only loses FLS to Dorian in the lat area, everything else Ronnie smokes him, this should only be 1 point for Dorian
@troy8613
@troy8613 Жыл бұрын
Great work! But this Dorian was almost finished, almost finished tearing his body down. I can’t wait for 93 vs 98 Ronnie as it’ll be a contest for the ages.
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 9 ай бұрын
Ronnie was better in later years than in 1998. I guess the smallest version of Ronnie is the only way to keep it close. If you go past 2000 Ronnie literally changed the game.
@حسناحمدی-ت5ظ
@حسناحمدی-ت5ظ 5 ай бұрын
دوریان کینگ🎖
@dj_m19
@dj_m19 4 ай бұрын
@@paulcox2447 is that so? why did he bring bad versions of himself until 2003? he almost lost to Levrone in 2000 and 2002, was losing to Jay Cutler in the prejudging in 2001. He looked bad until 2003
@Splitscreen83
@Splitscreen83 Ай бұрын
Dorian at his best was unbeatable. Nobody was more conditioned with such mass.
@jackstein5486
@jackstein5486 Жыл бұрын
Great video editing. Unfortunately I see Dorian’s footage to be lower resolution making his detail suffer. To bad, out of your control. Great effort!
@god985
@god985 Жыл бұрын
Imo BLS goes to Ronnie 2 points. Can’t ignore the size and astronomical difference in the legs.
@jph6272
@jph6272 11 ай бұрын
People forget that Ronnie never made the call out when Dorian was winning multiple Mr Olympia titles
@sonyx4500
@sonyx4500 4 ай бұрын
Because Ronnie was still developing. It wasn't until 1998 he started to dominate.
@robk5745
@robk5745 4 ай бұрын
I give Dorian the back double as well but ultimately Dorian wins. That gyno Ronnie has is very bad also.
@RobertAnderson-on3rw
@RobertAnderson-on3rw 2 ай бұрын
One of Ronnies best looks against one of Dorians poor looks. Im a huge Ronnie fan but there are many shows were Dorian competed with an incredible physique. German Grand prix 96 Dorian... incredible
@JakesSake
@JakesSake 11 ай бұрын
Dorian was harder? What? And the actual muscle groups of Coleman are bigger than Dorian, legs, arms, chest, shoulders. Coleman in the side chest smokes Dorian, size, separation, detail. Man Dorian ain’t harder than Ronnie here. Smoking crack
@Budha3773
@Budha3773 5 ай бұрын
I kinda agree, but I think the footage hurt dorian
@ThouSwell-zx3fd
@ThouSwell-zx3fd 5 ай бұрын
Dorian's grainy muscularity was pretty impressive; his skin was like tissue paper 😲
@mk5rob42
@mk5rob42 4 ай бұрын
Dorian was more ripped! He didn't have enough posing oil on like Ronnie did, Ronnie popped more so he looks harder but he's not. Dorian was always the best conditioned Mr. O....
@sonyx4500
@sonyx4500 4 ай бұрын
​@@mk5rob42He was harder. But Ronnie was fuller and more defined.
@Splitscreen83
@Splitscreen83 4 ай бұрын
You definitely have an assistance dog 🙄
@billyboy2455
@billyboy2455 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie definitely wins this
@robk5745
@robk5745 4 ай бұрын
Wins the best gyno, that’s about the only thing he’s winning
@billyboy2455
@billyboy2455 4 ай бұрын
@@robk5745 8x mr olympia...keep crying
@robk5745
@robk5745 4 ай бұрын
@@billyboy2455 who’s crying, the better bodybuilder pose for pose here is Dorian, keep telling yourself lies
@billyboy2455
@billyboy2455 4 ай бұрын
@@robk5745 hahaha keep crying 😢 😭 🤣
@robk5745
@robk5745 4 ай бұрын
@@billyboy2455 hahahahha 🥲🥲🥲🥲 “Ronnie definitely wins this” 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲
@tankhank7511
@tankhank7511 6 ай бұрын
Just insane how you don't have at LEAST 500k subscribers. You are the only one doing this I believe - and certainly at this level. I think once someone out there with a shit ton of subscribers makes a reference to one of your videos to get your name out there, this channel will explode. Great work dude!
@servantsofthemessiah720
@servantsofthemessiah720 3 ай бұрын
Ronnie easliy won back double, Ronnie wins easily.
@F_antomas
@F_antomas 2 ай бұрын
Dorian anyday
@carlminorsr2634
@carlminorsr2634 6 ай бұрын
Ronnie has that demon back👹
@Srbenda126
@Srbenda126 Жыл бұрын
Nice analysis! I agree with everything, though I would give 3 points to Ronnie in side chest and 2 points to Dorian in abs and thighs
@mertonhirsch4734
@mertonhirsch4734 Күн бұрын
The only problem with the scoring is that if they tie on points the one who wins more poses must have the larger discrepancy in their worst pose, so they are less symmetrical and balanced. With the same points, the one who wins fewer poses actually is more balanced since their worse poses will be relatively better.
@kombasanpracka
@kombasanpracka Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic job on this comparison and judging. Loved it.
@damiancloete7141
@damiancloete7141 Жыл бұрын
Oddly I agree with absolutely everything you’ve said. Great video, great channel keep it up 👍
@Supersetman
@Supersetman Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@krokodilvomnil5327
@krokodilvomnil5327 10 ай бұрын
Yates will always win against ronnie
@Rohan-hj7hi
@Rohan-hj7hi 5 ай бұрын
In what way??? Bro come on. Ronnie is the 🐐 for a reason
@krokodilvomnil5327
@krokodilvomnil5327 5 ай бұрын
@@Rohan-hj7hii agree. Ronnie is the goat and probably no one will ever accomplish what he did in Bodybuilding. However when it comes to bodybuilding competition and judging i think Yates is a little bit ahead of ronnie
@sonyx4500
@sonyx4500 4 ай бұрын
​@@krokodilvomnil5327He isn't. Ronnie is way better overall. Dorian lacked biceps, thighs and overall muscle fullness and definition to compete with Ronnie.
@HoudiniTM
@HoudiniTM 4 ай бұрын
No
@Kor33Com
@Kor33Com 4 ай бұрын
It's time to change your eye-glass...😉
@SiG-Popart
@SiG-Popart Жыл бұрын
Back.....Dorian v’s Ronnie v’s Derek 🔥
@Menelek24
@Menelek24 Жыл бұрын
oooooo!
@leghunter9201
@leghunter9201 11 ай бұрын
That's just fucking crazy. 10,000 years from now when we're 8 feet tall and weighing 180 pounds, there will be museums with Ai's showcasing the physique of our ancestor gods.
@imserious4113
@imserious4113 9 ай бұрын
Ronnie even in his under 250 lbs weight looks bigger and more muscular than Dorian 250+ lbs, Dorian's front double biceps pose is as funny as a penguin in cartoon both biceps look complete sh**. Ronnie got more details in his side chest, front double biceps and back double biceps pose
@MatthewMoller-gj1ht
@MatthewMoller-gj1ht 2 ай бұрын
Nicely done, I agree. Ronnie, and others, perform the Front Lat like a Most Muscular variation. Dorian opens and lifts up his rib-cage, while leaning back slightly thus show casing his Lats the right way. Ronnie’s way shows off other muscle groups instead of his Lats. Dorian’s Front Lat Spread shows superior execution and overall development/balance: Calves to thighs to waist to Lats to chest to shoulders to arms. Thank you.🤙
@doublem1975x
@doublem1975x Жыл бұрын
Gotta hand it to you SSM, nobody else on the bb community on utube makes these kinds of videos.
@doublem1975x
@doublem1975x 10 ай бұрын
@TheLusianPopa I agree with most of what your friend says, esp about Dorian's legs in 93. He had quad tears in 94 offseason and they never looked that good again. Although I'm not sure how he could say that 03's legs were watery, especially in prejudging (red trunks) . Not as striated or separated as 98 of course but they still were very hard and dense. 00 and 03 both won with perfect scores sure but 03 was the more imposing and dominating physique by FAR. At least that was the perception at the time.
@tysjt
@tysjt Жыл бұрын
I didn't think video would add that much but it really brings conditioning differences out. Amazing, great work.
@RonDaSantis
@RonDaSantis Жыл бұрын
Dorian is over rated and clearly you have a soft spot for him. Ronnie crushed Dorian in this comparison. I don’t get it.
@Royalman39
@Royalman39 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone. there is no way Ronnie lost fls wtf
@Supersetman
@Supersetman Жыл бұрын
Funny, people used to say I'm a Dorian hater :D
@dj_m19
@dj_m19 4 ай бұрын
you don't get it because you're a biased conformist: Coleman 1998: 247 pounds at the same height as Dorian, still not as conditioned, bad gyno, barely beat a soft Flex Wheeler by 3 points Yates: 260+ pounds, more conditioned, no gyno, wider. front lat, side tricep, abs and thighs = Yates rather convincingly. Kevin Levrone said on RX muscle that Dorian beats Coleman in '98 had he competed. You want to challenge his word? Sure he's just one man with his opinion, and yet he competed against both, since Dorian's 1st Olympia win all the way to 2003 Ronnie.
@janhruska3640
@janhruska3640 Жыл бұрын
Damn, this match up was so close. Probably you´re right, but I like more Ronnie´s fuller muscles. Just imagine if Dorian would have those full rounded muscles and injury free, He wuold be unstopable beast taking 10 Sandows easily :D 💪
@Supersetman
@Supersetman Жыл бұрын
Truly a monster
@smitabhmoitra5726
@smitabhmoitra5726 Жыл бұрын
Maybe not 10. He'd hold off Ronnie in 98, but 1999 Ronnie is in my opinion the greatest bodybuilding physique of all time. As big and shredded as possible, without blowing out his gut.
@ElssaAbom
@ElssaAbom Жыл бұрын
And imagine if Ron has a Dorian Calves and abs
@DunkinBiscuits
@DunkinBiscuits Жыл бұрын
Works better the other way, imagine if Ronnie had Dorians grainy look. Ronnie already has better muscles, shape and fullness.
@johnnycampbell7691
@johnnycampbell7691 Жыл бұрын
Dorian always came in too dry his offseason physiques were insane.
@CEREBRAL.ASSASSIN
@CEREBRAL.ASSASSIN 4 ай бұрын
Bro Dorian doesn’t beat Ronnie from the back no way 😂
@nobodysreal5830
@nobodysreal5830 Жыл бұрын
Your best work yet!
@Supersetman
@Supersetman Жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@josephohrablo4866
@josephohrablo4866 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie beats Dorian in glutes and hams with size and deep striations Dorian kills Ronnie in calves Overall back development , conditioning and Xmas tree -Dorian all day Arms and shoulders -Coleman kills him
@caseinnitratjr6861
@caseinnitratjr6861 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful made. Thx. Next please a 1993 Arnold Classic Flex Wheeler vs. 2023 Andrew Jacked Arnold Classic. Or a 2024 one soon 😉
@heruking4391
@heruking4391 3 ай бұрын
Ronnie definitely won the back lat spread. Ronnie won this comparison without a doubt.
@bbdc602
@bbdc602 Жыл бұрын
Its crazy to say dorian has a slightly better back in the BLS than ronnie .... wtf dude
@KhanhLe-zy1iy
@KhanhLe-zy1iy 10 ай бұрын
Ronnie details pop like crazy here
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing video ! Wow
@kayla0002134266654
@kayla0002134266654 5 ай бұрын
Can you do 93 Dorian? I wish there were more poses like the front single biceps and the three quarter turn…
@pamdespam854
@pamdespam854 4 ай бұрын
I can't get past how hard DY is compared to RC, or RC's left nipple. I still give this to DY. He's so big and still has a hardness that is unmatchable. I wonder how long he'd have gone without the injuries. That left bicep really hurts him.
@Menelek24
@Menelek24 Жыл бұрын
great vid, keep doing this - Dorian was a decade before - it keeps evolving
@philliplabuschagne5508
@philliplabuschagne5508 Жыл бұрын
This shows the superiority of Dorian. What is the point of all that size and you blow out your midsection and you come in Synthol Soft and Big vs Grainy Hard and Ripped to The Bone. This smooth size protocol ☢️💉 should not allow guys like Derek to win mr Olympia. It should seriously be removed from the sport. Look at Flex Wheeler loosing a kidney and leg because of it. Time the IFBB get rid of Synthol once and for all. Make Cbum the over all mr Olympia and leave the Synthol Freaks to compete in the "Shell" sponsored Smooth Big Muscle Competition. ☢️💉💪
@mikeoxlong1483
@mikeoxlong1483 Жыл бұрын
too funny
@bjf5027
@bjf5027 4 ай бұрын
Best Dorian vs one of the worst Olympia for Ronnie and king Ron still wins!!
@gauravjha8938
@gauravjha8938 3 ай бұрын
Best Dorian ?
@mokamsid
@mokamsid Жыл бұрын
Dorian yates ❤ Ronnie is good but not enough to defeat the shadow
@c.p.k.9748
@c.p.k.9748 Жыл бұрын
Dorian winning back last spread to Ronnie seriously are you joking man
@florence2991
@florence2991 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie wins back last spread in my opinion
@musclebone7875
@musclebone7875 7 ай бұрын
Ronnie is the Goat of bodybuilding
@fatboy5926
@fatboy5926 Жыл бұрын
Dorian vs Ronnie always a fun comparison. For 1 - their fanbases are mental 😂😂 but while both are Olympia champion mass monsters - they are very different. Pretty crazy to be honest.
@Enhancedgenetics
@Enhancedgenetics Жыл бұрын
Dorian beats ronnie any time he's denser ...
@stevelynchbodybuilding
@stevelynchbodybuilding 5 ай бұрын
That was an excellent analysis! I think you are completely accurate in this assessment.
@luizansounds
@luizansounds Жыл бұрын
I agree, also Dorian would have the champions privilege in 98, making a tie shift in his favor anyway, A comparassion of Jay cuter (2009) and Derek from this year would be interesting in this model Specially because hat could take the front and side poses (+ abs and thighs) but still lose in points depending of how it goes
@ElssaAbom
@ElssaAbom Жыл бұрын
No he has a hard time to beat nasser in 97
@luizansounds
@luizansounds Жыл бұрын
the thing with this video is if he showed up injury free (intact triceps, not bloated and wet from meds to manage the tear and etc and probably fuller than in 96) and i just carried up with that@@ElssaAbom
@luizansounds
@luizansounds Жыл бұрын
Nasser was massive, if his back (counting lower body) wasnt so lacking in detail and didnt use as much oil (his biceps were way too round and looked like they were going to explode) he could be a 2 times champion (i dont think he would be able to keep going with Ron and flex in 99) @TheLusianPopa
@ElssaAbom
@ElssaAbom Жыл бұрын
@@luizansounds maybe yes
@cebukid70
@cebukid70 Жыл бұрын
The 1999 Ronnie- gyno looks awful. For that reason, Dorian wins.
@lateralus2199
@lateralus2199 Жыл бұрын
Dorian's torn bicep and tricep (worst arms for an Olympia champion ever)! Symmetry destroyed. Ronnie annihilate Dorian
@onedollah
@onedollah 2 ай бұрын
Not a bodybuilding afficionado but imo I agree with most of your observation. Side by side I feel Yates was better in some while Coleman was better in other poses.
@santiagofabiano1990
@santiagofabiano1990 11 ай бұрын
It think the rear lat spread is a draw. And if you consider the lower body, it might be a win for Ronnie. The glutes add so much to the overall shape
@stephenlewis6409
@stephenlewis6409 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie had seven years to beat Dorian between 1992 and 1997. He is also two years younger than Yates.
@sonyx4500
@sonyx4500 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter. He realized his Potential in 1998. Previous years are no Comparison. He got from 9th place to 1st in one year
@gregggorypecs2370
@gregggorypecs2370 9 ай бұрын
Really cant go by this video unlrs they are standing literally next to each other..well never know..its probably not accurate
@nobodysreview6137
@nobodysreview6137 23 күн бұрын
If Dorien never tore his Bicep and just maintained his 93 look he would of won 10 Mr Olympia
@harveytorres110
@harveytorres110 6 ай бұрын
I must be blind because I don't see what you guys see in Dorian
@marshallwayne-uf4pq
@marshallwayne-uf4pq Жыл бұрын
No one can beat Ronnie’s traps
@venom5463
@venom5463 Жыл бұрын
Back latspread was for Ronnie imo 🤷🏻‍♂️
@illusionistMunawarMuzaffar
@illusionistMunawarMuzaffar Жыл бұрын
Big Ron all day.
@MrJanimro
@MrJanimro Жыл бұрын
At least they look different, which is important. Nowadays everyone looks the same. Previously they used their own weapons.
@ilarizan
@ilarizan Жыл бұрын
Great analysis
@Travisdubya
@Travisdubya Жыл бұрын
Very good video. Only thing I disagree with was the ab and thigh. It’s not even close, Dorian was running away with that pose.
@TheMiracleOfTheValley
@TheMiracleOfTheValley Жыл бұрын
Dorian is the GOAT 🐐
@musclebone7875
@musclebone7875 7 ай бұрын
Dorian is 3rd goat 🐐
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 6 ай бұрын
@@musclebone7875 Him and Phil are close. Same number of Olympias and even in terms of on stage, it's hard to say who would win all things equal. Phil is a slightly more complete version of Kevin and Flex hybrid. His only issue is he is shorter and more narrow than both of them too. Dorians height and width advantage already gave him a big advantage over Flex and Kevin. Phil being complete wouldn't matter so much since he loses even more on size it kinda balances out. . If Phil was as wide and Flex and Kevin it'd be a clear cut case, but he isn't. People don't see it so much in pics, especially not by itself so it's being lost to time, but the 90's guys were big. They were tall and had large frames. Dorian had tougher competition. Phil occurred more recently.
@Jason-vj1qn
@Jason-vj1qn 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@garylicata8983
@garylicata8983 4 ай бұрын
Dorian Yates was Mr.Olympia for six straight years for a reason. He was the greatest bodybuilder in the world at that time. But he would not have beaten Ronnie during his prime years.
@scottgodkin781
@scottgodkin781 Жыл бұрын
It would not be fair to consider the MM- had it been a mandatory pose, no question Yates would have modified his training/posing to ensure he was more competitive in it. It’s like asking who had the better javelin pose or vacuum shot. You can’t expect a competitor to excel in something that’s irrelevant to the competition.
@Supersetman
@Supersetman Жыл бұрын
True, but neither did Ronnie need to excel in the mm, but he actually did
@user-kg1od9es5d
@user-kg1od9es5d Жыл бұрын
"Yates would have modified his training/posing to ensure he was more competitive in it." come off it bro. Yates didnt have the fullness in the right areas, the shape and muscle bellies to have a whacky MM. Sure he couldve adapted his posing but it wouldnt be enough to deter the big nasty.
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
Dorian fans are beyond delusional@@user-kg1od9es5d
@fatboy5926
@fatboy5926 4 ай бұрын
I’ve probably already commented but the back double here - it has to be a 3 point win for Ronnie. I’m honestly failing to see a body part on that pose that Dorian wins 🤷‍♂️ and the back lat spread? I’m not giving Ronnie a 3 point win - but he is absolutely winning that pose here (again in my opinion)
@IvanovEvgeny
@IvanovEvgeny 2 ай бұрын
Голова Ронни в 2 раза больше чем у Дориана. Масштаб сделан в пользу Ронни
@abcmaya
@abcmaya 4 ай бұрын
Ronnie all the way in every category except for posing. Dorian poses better making his body parts appear better than Coleman's in some poses. But clearly Ronnie is better overall.
@sonyx4500
@sonyx4500 Жыл бұрын
No way Dorian is winning this. Sorry. Back Double bi is not even close
@TACT1LE
@TACT1LE Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm saying lmao what the fuck
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
back double and rear lat spread both aren't close and it's Ronnie all day. His muscle is just too much rounder and thicker and the lower halves aren't even comparable.
@jakeh6980
@jakeh6980 9 ай бұрын
93-95 Dorian was unbeatable
@digital2494
@digital2494 7 ай бұрын
And the winner is... Nasser el sombaty. Very underrated bodybuilder
@nobodysreview6137
@nobodysreview6137 23 күн бұрын
Idk why people speak so highly of Ronnie, that gyno id have him last place, Dorien after the torn bicep i'd have as last place, other years Ronnie had a bubble gut and no calves. Paul Dillet and Ruhl and Lou Ferigno are the guys that should of been Mr O if your going by size. Arnold over Lou is ridiculous, Lou could of picked Arnold up like he was a child and threw him through a window, dude was way bigger and built for real. Arnold was pumped up beach muscles, no glutes or legs out of proportion.
@al90vette
@al90vette Жыл бұрын
Can we see a 94 Dorian versus a 2009 Jay?
@aditya-lr2in
@aditya-lr2in Жыл бұрын
I'd have given ronnie the win just with the most musuclar
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
Front double and side chest are also laughably easy wins for big ron.
@sameershbaro126
@sameershbaro126 11 ай бұрын
دوريان ياتيس في كل البطولات التي شارك فيها وكان البايسبس في ذراعه الأيسر ضعيفا وغير متناسب مع بايسبس الذراع اليمنى مما يؤثر سلبا على التناسق العام نتيجة الإصابة...كان يجب عدم مشاركته والوقوع في المحظور وإعطائه الفوز دون وجه حق ...كان من المفروض أن يخسر ...
@ivankisyov1498
@ivankisyov1498 2 ай бұрын
Dorian's smile is the loss, nothing more
@MERCURYELGRANDE
@MERCURYELGRANDE 4 ай бұрын
Dorian
@Izzatmaff
@Izzatmaff 11 ай бұрын
As a dorianite i would imply dorain made kevin look small in comparison to ronnie. By this example you could know how good dorian was.
@manduheavyvazquez5268
@manduheavyvazquez5268 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie the king gut gyno Coleman sucks. …..Dorian all day. The best back ever unbeatable. Great
@ElssaAbom
@ElssaAbom Жыл бұрын
Come one bro respect Ron even Steve the head judge when Milos ask him who has the best body ever Ron 08 or Dorian 93 or jay he said probably Ron 98 and I love Dorian to death and it’s will be very close
@geoffhampton9155
@geoffhampton9155 8 ай бұрын
Ronnie is the best of all time, but you're using a bad version of Dorian when a 92, 93, or 95 version of Dorian would've been better. In 1996 he was pretty much done.
@earthwormjim3269
@earthwormjim3269 Жыл бұрын
While this is an admirable effort, these types of comparisons are meaningless because they were under different lighting on stage.
@MeesterJ
@MeesterJ Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. But Ronnie wins the BLS with 1 point and Dorian wins the FLS with 1 point....
@dracula5091
@dracula5091 Жыл бұрын
Great work man and both athletes I admire though King is my favourite but your analysis is good...if Ronnie was better in posing and execution
@peterodriguez5636
@peterodriguez5636 Жыл бұрын
This comparison is about who is in a better zpeeled not muscle size
@Izzatmaff
@Izzatmaff 11 ай бұрын
Another suggestion dorian, ronnie jay, phil all had weak poses not lee haney.❤
@thebeast3961
@thebeast3961 Жыл бұрын
What a satisfying result.dorian is superior
@AncientYouth64
@AncientYouth64 17 күн бұрын
Ronnie definitely won the GYNO comparison
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