Math Haters vs Math Nerd - Safety Third 118

[@aarongagne8918]

"Vectors are where it's at" I'm pretty sure vectors are specifically for where it's going actually

[@kieleyevatt2232]

+

[@shApYT]

not if you integrate it!

[@keatoncampbell820]

​@@shApYT I integrated my vector but I'm nowhere! I do have some direction though...

[@epicthief]

Most on topic episodes ever, almost a consistent train of thought on this one

[@JakobM16]

Granted, the train was off the rails in the Siberian wilderness, but at least it was a (almost) complete train.

[@RyanMercer]

I need that bee contraption Allen made. I'm battling dozens of blad-faced hornets today and am running out of brake clean.

[@alexbutler1944]

blad the impalers

[@gemhunter498]

Wait, the one that fires bees? I always just assumed you could use a shop vac.

[@RyanMercer]

@@gemhunter498 yeah but I needed something to comment for the algorithm 😂

[@gemhunter498]

@@RyanMercer fair enough

[@d3faultdotxbe]

1) Entertainment 2) Education 3) Safety

[@smartard]

James could really raise the bottom line of this endeavor

[@liamcallahan]

I gotta say, James was a really good guest. He fits the adhd engineer energy really well

[@theminecraft4202]

James entertains stupid math/engineering questions the same way i do lol

[@jayrx12]

Awesome that Jabril is becoming a regular guest, he always asks good questions.

[@Ryzawa]

Yeah I really like having him on the show, other than when he tries to stop the conversation from derailing sometimes (generally not that big of a deal but sometimes a bummer).

[@natescovill]

I met James at Open Sauce when he and his wife were some of the first people to solve the puzzle hunt! It wasn't until afterwards that I realized I recognized him from Will's channel. Super nice guy

[@jakass]

I'm pretty sure he pickpocketed me. My phone, wallet, underwear, and keys were missing after we spoke

[@jamessarrett4169]

We liked that puzzle hunt a lot! Thanks again!

[@KarsazKaJinn]

​​@@jakasssame here, also seem to be missing my virginity now .

[@melissakramer-sarrett2591]

Thanks! He's a keeper (hi I'm the wife) P.S. puzzle hunt was good fun 😊

[@natescovill]

@@melissakramer-sarrett2591 I'm so glad you liked it! I had a lot of fun making it, and it means a lot to hear that people enjoyed solving it

[@JeffBrower2]

Potato's shrug at 1:30:26 is SO GOOD

[@BeanerMan13]

It was after William told her not to drink other people's drinks too😂

[@CrispyKyle8]

So surprised they brushed over that as much as they did

[@outbakjak]

I'm so thankful KZbin decided to show me your comment at the top of the feed right as I was passing by that part of the video. Yeah it's pretty damn good and cute 😆

[@ChromaLock]

As a math major myself, group theory is 100% the shit

[@NicholasBertollo]

As a math major also. Abstract algebra in general is the shit.

[@MrApple-yw9vp]

As a molecular engineer, group theory is 100% a piece of shit I couldn't learn for the life of me

[@NicholasBertollo]

@@MrApple-yw9vp Nah dude, anyone can do it. But I understand the point. This being said people who haven’t done higher math don’t understand how cool it is.

[@cristianmoore1996]

My first PreCal teacher in HS was old and didn’t know how to teach young people. We all suffered through it. She retired early half way through the school year and we got a very young teacher to replace her. We all did fantastic after that. Everything started making sense.

[@comdnoive]

Kevin's foam roller idea, but instead of foam it's a living cylinder of meat with a working sense of touch and pain receptors that detects when it gets punctured.

[@shApYT]

Will's old bosses are so much more entertaining than failed mythbusters. I love it. Will needs to get more bosses.

[@Iaintnojo]

I mean a lobotomy is scrambling/removal of a portion of the frontal lobe. He was describing what is called a corpus calosetomy where they separate the hemispheres

[@jamessarrett4169]

@@Iaintnojo to be fair, that was commonly called an 'ice-pick lobotomy' at the time. Modern medicine had advanced a lot since then.

[@Iaintnojo]

@jamessarrett4169 yes absolutely, I guess I just meant when most people say lobotomy they're talking about frontal lobotomies

[@ilikespagett1514]

1:24:30 watermelon is racist because it was a cheap food in america some amount of years ago and therefore black people (who were more likely to be poor due to racism) would buy more watermelons. same with chicken

[@messyg-tar2251]

10:38 listening to this while studying for my maths degree...

[@nootnoot338]

So fucking funny they get into closed species furry drama for like two seconds

[@killingtimeitself]

watching kevin be mildy knowledgeable about furries was one of the things of all time

[@tonerrr4295]

James is too smart for this. Him giving serious answers is hilarious

[@GerinoMorn]

I went to one of most prestigious (i.e. job guaranteeing) CS courses in my parts, and 1st semester was: algorithms and 3 separate math subjects. The fundamentals, including logic, set theory, Peano axioms etc., linear algebra (groups, bodies, calculating e.g. how many functions can be declared that convert given body to another, and calculus. I got best-in-class for algorithms, but failed all three other subjects and flunked xDDD

[@mrfashionguy1]

William trying to unironically recreate Minority Report for pedophiles is a video I need to be made.

[@zell9058]

How weird they were wearing the same shirts as last week.

[@Maxjoker98]

43:00 Ok, you can easily reduce the bias by first creating an autoencoder network to encode the faces to a maximally-dense representation, while also mixing in other faces, and then train another network on the encoded face value values with the "bad/good" labels. This also makes generating the "perfect"(worst?) face easier, as the optimal face is already in the dense face encoded format(just forward to decode layer of autoencoder). It's really quite simple.

[@MNbenMN]

11:49 Exactly! I had a linear mathematics course and a statistics course in the same senester who both were second language english speakers, I couldn't understand either of them well enough. That was the semester I abandoned my Math minor.

[@jamessarrett4169]

There's still time to read the textbooks 😂

[@MNbenMN]

@@jamessarrett4169 True, and I did learn it all eventually, just no degree paperwork to prove it. I never gave up on Math entirely, just the academic aspect.

[@noizyme]

What are these horrible Chegg "ads?" Breaking up a podcast discussion with a 30 minute PowerPoint presentation is not the easiest thing to digest, guys.

[@aidanclark196]

1:28:33 that happens in small towns in america too. Not the sponsoring, but an entire town only having one type. The only place you cpuld get pepsi products in my hometown was the taco bell, otherwise every single restaurant was coke

[@EwanDev]

Cameraman John is back?

[@jonconway912]

No

[@derpyfish0179]

yes he has been

[@BeanerMan13]

If more people understood math, and less people understood meth, we'd have flying cars by now

[@noodlelynoodle.]

Or if the people who understood meth understood math we might cause they already just wanna build shit out of basically trash lmao

[@krino45]

I feel like I'm explaining something niche to my disappointed dad, but most protogen designs are fine to make/sell/whatever without commission, it's just some variants that are closed to buy. Most people online do the free ones and most paid/closed species are niche, with the exception of stuff like synths who are pretty popular

[@kaven1014]

As a senior computer engineering major, this episode made me happy

[@gearscodeandfire]

Guy sees the green matrix numbers falling down in front of all of us.

[@shApYT]

This episode NEEDS to be animated by xkcd What if?

[@burnsz3655]

For the issue with the goat head you could start with a pre-trained model off hugging face and further train the model on public datasets of photos and have it check for the goat head and excludes the other plants on the yard. You could have the camera hooked up to something like a raspberry pi making api called to a home computer that is running the algorithm assuming you are able to keep all of them on the same WiFi. Chat gpt 4o should be able to walk you through it.

[@exileisland2675]

Anything with a clean drum break as the intro sends my mind to a specific place

[@nuclearduck13]

The Mickey Mouse conversation reminded me of a certain hand sanitizer dispenser that was sold at Disneyland (still might be) that elongates the mickey head shape to fit the sanitizer bottle and leaves the two ears at the opposite end of the nozzle. Best souvenir I've ever bought.

[@Dizz18]

I could absolutely tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi in a blind test

[@jamessarrett4169]

It's harder than you think! (But they need to be cold)

[@tappy8741]

@@jamessarrett4169 coke is more tar-like in consistency, it's not hard. Maybe american stuff is different, judging by the way you sell cake as bread

[@Sauvenil]

"I'm confident"... Dunning-Kruger is all about confidence, haha.

[@williamjugovich7971]

57:00 John Deere makes a deadly plant roomba for farm fields called the See & Spray

[@foRonable]

I support the teacher theory! I was a big math nerd at school and often tried to help other sew the math the way I saw it. Everyone, everyone had one (at max 2!) issue they were stuck at, and after understanding it they were able to follow everything that followed flawlessly. Working as tech support now, I also see a lot of people who were stuck at one issue and unable to move forward from there. That's kinda why I always believe that most people are smart at general, but everyone has a

[@coleanagnost]

There is no way you can hand me Pepsi and pass it off as Coke

[@The_BadPiggies_Engineer]

I love the theme of having smart people on the podcast and the normal cast just being stupid and making them slightly mad

[@SheWhoWalksSilently]

We must protect the Potato from the goathead at all costs 🔥🔥🔥

[@Evan-iy2sg]

boise state university is currently doing a ton of work on goathead abatement research, with focus on publicly accessible science stuff like geotagging new growth and logging plants that are removed and how fast or slow it regrows

[@parillo12]

I really enjoyed having Williams dad on the podcast this time, Bring him back!

[@Kazaam1996]

Why is this guy a carbon copy of one of the coaches from my high school robotics team.

[@HexCopper]

48:55 I'm pretty sure at CES this year John Deer showed of ALMOST the exact idea William had. They showed a new AI fertilizer/herbicide applicator that would use AI to detect plants it passes over and then sprays them with either herbicide or fertilizer depending on if it was your crop or a weed. And like the AI was able to make the distinction in like 1/2 a second or something like that because the idea is to pull the whole thing with a tractor then it can cover like 10 rows of crops at once. That way you can save money on fertilizer and you aren't fertilizing weeds.

[@Kozzado]

Big fan of math.

[@Vincent11998844]

Lol had the same math experience as jabrils

[@TBFjourney]

The hardest part of getting CRISPR to work is getting things to work. The journey to get a gene to be chopped out using new genes and primers gets VERY expensive if you're unlucky as the PCR temp recomendations are usually never close enough. Also on fursuits ive seen some realistic fur suits for sale but usually theyre like 2-3k for just a headpeice.

[@gearscodeandfire]

Freaking pumped Jabril is there from the get-go, going to keep you guys on point

[@irvingrodriguez833]

im loving how its coming out every thursday now consistently. Tip top 👌🔥

[@artistjhan]

real analysis is fire tho

[@PocketRobber]

Love the show guys, thanks friends!

[@KotakoStudio]

Regarding the AI calls, I got a call from google to revise some information about my business opening hours. If it hadn't told me at the start of the call that it was an AI I was talking to I would have not recognized it as such AT ALL, it was ridiculously realistic. it responded to my questions, it stopped talking if I talked over it. it was crazy good. And also very scary

[@Zayllyaz]

If i would have seen the explanation at 8:49 as a 12 year old I would be a different person now, i mean being interested in math not putting bodies in tarps.

[@Blocka025]

Love James. Goated guest

[@TrancorWD]

Kevin and Jabrils staring of into space 6:13

[@ItalianRetroGuy]

Alternatively title: Math-heads vs Meth-heads

[@travissutherland8502]

But can you make math in an easy bake oven ?

[@theminecraft4202]

46:25 so just like us with the name "Safety Third"

[@flaemy117]

James was so excited to nerd about stuff but William never let him speak more than 10s at a time...

[@Phoxygamer2113]

There are so many different types of fursuit styles. The world is your oyster!

[@13jodalow13]

Today I learned that math can turn micky mouse into a pe nis.....

[@catagris]

When talking about ChatGPT there is a huge difference between the free 3.5 and the new 4o. There has barely been changes to the base 3.5 model other than safety.

[@dogtato]

Linear algebra is also my favorite. it's not that hard and it does cool stuff

[@zackmarkham4240]

53:31 those are called scalies, but are under the umbrella of 'furry'

[@blipboyy]

Loved this guest

[@blythea.wolfgang2702]

At 54:07 Kevin is thinking of the species known as "Primagens" which people have paid like thousands of dollars to have one as their fursona and are basically impossible to get because the creator is fully offline and no one has heard from them, they then created the protogen species as like, a free use species so everyone can have a protogen fursona but very few can have a primagen fursona

[@alexbutler1944]

Okay, actually think about how goddamn hilarious it would be if Kevin and William released the exact same plants/ants video on the same day at the same time dueling videos style. Same video structure, same build process, same result, even similar shots of the robots "working", but all under the guise that the other guy has some crackpot dumbshit video and be making fun of/talking shit about what a piss poor video the other is making.

[@punxride024]

1:10:00 this shit is evil as fuck lol. Don't give them any ideas...

[@punxride024]

I'd rather have the person than the camera because I know the person can't upload their perspective to the Internet.

[@punxride024]

This podcast got wild

[@mateostenberg]

ALLEN HAS LEFT US

[@GerinoMorn]

Wow, it's not common knowledge how bananas are used as a racist prop? :o Like in many UEFA matches there were incidents with throwing bananas at the black players...

[@jamessarrett4169]

@@GerinoMorn it's definitely not universal. Though It might be a regionalism which never made it out west? I definitely got a question wrong the first time I saw it at the work anti-harassment training some years ago.

[@LUFFNINJA]

The dumbest conversation between smart people

[@-a6833]

45:45 Well, you'd think that, but Adolf Hitler just won regional elections in Namibia not too long ago

[@airbagsagain]

Trigger Me PepsiCo would’ve been a better title.

[@mmmlinux]

Haha. I got a chegg math ad while I was watching this.

[@jakass]

1:02:32 Big Willie is peaking

[@DrBomb15]

Sorry but now Jabrils needs to be on EVERY episode because he's the brakes will needs 😭

[@MawoDuffer]

I use trig more than algebra now. 4 years of slope point formula in school drilled in to me. I hate it.

[@AndrewSlacks]

Math nerds unite

[@gearscodeandfire]

(I just keep yelling pre-trained network in my head)

[@TheModernMachine]

When is cameraman John gonna be on here, I don't think we ever saw his face

[@dona7.]

1:27:57 Coke. specifically the Mexican one. The glass bottle Coke

[@DustinShort]

Three yt dudes idly asking questions about bias in AI training sets and specifically law enforcement images.... Meanwhile Jabril, the non mayo guest that actually uses machine learning, has that sponge Bob 1000yd stare.

[@nicholasstapleton1215]

This guy who’s wills boss really good on the pod ngl he’s really funny

[@miterskyark]

you guys should definitely have the waterjet channel guys on the podcast

[@slashtehflygon1722]

5:49 IS THAT A RAIN WORLD REFERENCE!?

[@LovesYouShaelyn]

I need a bobby lee crossover with you guys

[@TechnologistAtWork]

It sounds like the invited Bob Belcher to do a podcast with them

[@yourfriendlyrobot5415]

reptile furrys are no scaleys

[@muzzammel4601]

did James goes to the same uni as ludwig and stanz?

[@Trade4Lewt]

and Breslyn

[@jamessarrett4169]

According to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Ahgren, yes! (but about 12 years earlier)

[@MarcosLaureano-r2l]

1:19:16 Grape Soda

[@Yugemostsuj]

I'm hesitant to generalize, but there almost certainly are demographically correlated drink preferences

[@skwerwl]

I hated all math classes EXCEPT algebra. I LOVED algebra.

[@Pyriana]

53:30ish a furry that is a snake is called a scaley and is a subset of the furry community.

[@slothsluht]

6:09 am I crazy, has Cameraman John been around the WHOLE time??? I've been wondering like for years or where the fuck cameraman John has been like no one has said the words cameraman John in so long

[@thenoblerot]

why are they using gpt-3.5!?!?

[@slipstream53]

ikr, gpt 3.5 is literally useless in comparison to gpt4

[@BirdlessFlight]

Is William trying to re-invent phrenology with his sex offenders photo thing?

[@wesleyfilips7052]

Pretending there arent racial divides on drink preferences is actually ridiculous

[@jamessarrett4169]

Citation needed

[@senfdame528]

fuuuuuuuck xD how did this get even more chaotic !?!? xD also Back Door Scientist

[@LUFFNINJA]

statistically thhere are 1 orr 2 pdf in pod lol