Mathews Phosa talks Witness to Power and South Africa

[@MkuluClive-ls5qj]

Mr.Phosa, South Africa cannot be fixed by the people that broke it!

[@sibusisomani1746]

Great comment!

[@AkhonaGaladla]

who broke South Africa?

[@MkuluClive-ls5qj]

@@AkhonaGaladla you did!

[@AkhonaGaladla]

@@MkuluClive-ls5qj u beyond redemption. thank you

[@maseratifittipaldi]

@@AkhonaGaladla If you don't know by now, you will never know. I will give you a hint though : Arrogance, Nepotism and Corruption.

[@ndumisomaurice5089]

Mr. Phosa handdle that interview like a veteran, his footprint is visible in Mpumalanga

[@anticorrup-g5o]

Amongst the poor and the very rich.

[@Dfunky777]

18 years ago I went to the Western cape in Arabella estates. Matthew phosa was the only black person who owned property there with many owners coming from Europe. He is one of the richest connected gangster I mean politicians in the country.

[@WokeDetection]

😅😂 lolol

[@Spunky7227]

😂

[@louismzobe3073]

Wow he owns property in Arabella state, yet he talks about other people being corrupted. Where did he get money to acquire that. He should be investigated,charged and arrested. Why are they going about things that happened donkey years ago, Zuma this Zuma that. Talk about Eskom, loadshedding, SAA, Transnet and and and...

[@TokaiXL-z3g]

@@louismzobe3073 Ityala aliboli, mgodoyi

[@Kevin-pl4tj]

With respect to MP, this sort of mindset from the veterans and elders does not give me a warm feeling that the ANC will make any progress for SA in the future.

[@BoscoeAlbert]

It won't. And we needed this truth from the likes of MP, to inform our future decisions on who we vote for. Men like this are no longer in touch with the people, and you see it in the lack of seriousness with which he is addressing critical questions

[@gilbertdavies1182]

Absolutely not!!!

[@kenernstzen2407]

Mike I like the fact that you don’t shy away from the tough questions regardless of who you are interviewing! Well done!!

[@sonacoza]

Thank you for your comment, we won't stop asking tough questions!

[@peterkgobe3407]

Though question to black people only

[@ainsteindiedericks1622]

@peterkgobe3407 because blacks have so much to answer because as a black person myself no one fought for what we have now since 94' all the greedyness and corruption since while our blacks is worse off, so

[@Vv-fl2rm]

@@peterkgobe3407we see right through them trying to push a narrative and agenda that suits them 😂😂 fortunately the black youth in this country are awake enough to see through the bullshit

[@ReubenMatolong]

Mr Phosa,u are a great leader and wish u can consider taking after President Ramaphosa....Ramaphosa∆Phosa😅😅

[@khayadongo8252]

One of the upright members of the ANC, I have much respect for you, Mr Phosa💪🏾

[@vuyelwasam3170]

@@khayadongo8252 that's what I observed about him.

[@mosesmabele1255]

This Mathew Phosa would actually make a good president...

[@dvniekerk2580]

I like your comment about the DA being screwed by ANC. Here Mr Phosa is treading water and exposes the ANC thought pattern: Rule by hook or by crook.

[@biko8229]

😂😂🤣They could also work with EFF and MK

[@marabunya]

DA could've walked out any time and open room for EFF and MK Party to come. There is no law in the Constitution of the Republic that prevent the DA from walking out if they feel hard done by the ANC.

[@ross7901]

And this guy is the moral conscience of the ANC ... God help us!

[@thetad1242]

​@@ross7901 excuse the lisps but yeah he is forked tongued.

[@ThembinkosiMchunu-xi7kf]

I like the way Mr Phosa update us with the naked truth

[@michaelmcgrath3967]

Mr Phosa has a very interesting life, great interview.

[@mikesham3204]

Thank you for saying this

[@maseratifittipaldi]

...at what cost to South Africa?

[@kennykambikambi4002]

BRILLIANT MAN THIS IS THE TYPE OF LEADERS WE NEED TO GUIDE US . HE IS A STRAIGHT TALKER AND PERFECT IN THE WAY HE OPERATES .

[@tebogontshangase4893]

I don't think so. He was the Treasurer General of the Anc the core centre of Anc corruption he overseen for those years. He represents everything which is corrupt and wrong in government and Anc. I don't care for him. He's rich through questionable way.

[@drleonjansevanrensburg1299]

Pity though he does but have strategic foresight and he even agrees.

[@koketsomokone2975]

Matthews Phosa is my new favorite ANC person!🤞🏾😭

[@essaleTrends]

@@koketsomokone2975 he talks the story which suits his favourite Glencoe under Ramaphosa destroyed the black economy only to make Rama a billionaire phala phala conscious does not affect phosa he's he for real for him to decide for a thief a SARS lawbreaker a man you used the police secretly to deal with phala phala as if he's above the law

[@sbusisoshelembe8367]

Mike's face turned red... I could sense his frustration... Interesting interview and indeed Mike sometimes you can squeeze the lemon but can't get any juice out of it... That is my take for the day 😂😂😂

[@gailallwn8400]

Mr Phosa is such an upright transparent absolute gentleman. Top class!!!! ❤❤

[@michaelmcgrath3967]

Hey Mike, I love the show and your guest, as a foreigner in your beautiful country. Have some great guest, it gives a perspective of where the country has come and where it is heading.

[@sonacoza]

Thank you for your kind words. I hope that you are enjoying South Africa in all of its craziness!

[@davidlamula]

MR Mike big tanx im a product of Mr Phosa a true leader who gave all he had in his power to transform the situation which was at mpumalanga!.

[@msanembongeleni]

This Mike is racist

[@SylerSyd]

Zuma had nothing to do with the Collapse of the Scorpions it was Kgalema Montlante as the interim President. It's Ohkay to hate Zuma but let's stick to the facts.

[@JollyCascade921]

This interview was one for the ages ....never laughed this much at any SON episode ....great work mike this interview made my day😂😂😂😂

[@watdefok]

Sorry, I don’t buy his innocent bystander plea.

[@AndrewMcFarlane_1]

Not innocent bystander, active participant in the plunder

[@maseratifittipaldi]

VERY HIGHLY PAID "innocent bystander" I might add. ( Paid to keep quiet. Paid by the Party with our money )

[@busisiwemsomi6326]

Why no questions on PhalaPhala? Also Phosa is not vested in Economics

[@Sneezoboss35]

My favourite person Mr Matthews Phosa… very interesting to listen to this man.

[@tshegofatsotleane5527]

This interview started off great, the man seemed to have taken accountability then a sudden change of that ANC lightning struck him & he danced around the most basic things

[@anelsteenkamp3890]

No one is as blind as the one who chooses not to see. ‘I didn’t know…’ 🙄 Same old same old ANC.

[@Anonuser1895]

@@anelsteenkamp3890 his comment regarding Zuma was both laughable and infuriating

[@BoscoeAlbert]

@@Anonuser1895 ABSOLUTELY

[@alkebulanafricanconversati1728]

Some people will always be fixated on their wrong beliefs no matter what happens, and you are one of them

[@cheesecakecartel5022]

As long as he is not part of a movement that openly kills people in broad day light and dissappears people while the country is silent. It's funny how the so many people were blind while big buisness in conjuction with the DA was involved in rand manipulation, a form of capture i any event....... but ofcourse its the DA its ok because it's all white. It ok to check hypocrisy, but check it at the same depth and lengths with equal fever otherwise you're just peddling atypical rightwing rhetoric. Helen admitted that big business asked her to back Cup Cake.

[@klopjag2b]

It is sad to see that the ANC has not yet learned from its mistakes, they still want to continue with their failed policies...

[@ShaunGunter-vj2ih]

Mike, don't get him back. He is the most devious of the whole bunch. Smooth talker but ducks the big stuff. Same as Cyril.

[@sandilemntungwa1538]

True

[@sbusisoshelembe8367]

Mike met his match today 😂😂😂

[@msanembongeleni]

TRUE

[@andilemadlala8191]

Thank you for the insightful interview. I think the questions towards the end were emotional charged then being firm and critical without loosing objectivity. I think it is the reason Mr. Phosa had to remind you that he is the one who is supposed to provide responses not the other way around. Even his repeated remarks about what is leadership were to emphasise the diminishing objective in the line of questioning. We trust that can improve the otherwise good and informative show.

[@MeshackNwashe]

Thanx very much Mr phosa for making me know everything that happened since 2007

[@ERWINROODT]

Smug Phosa, smiling all the way and speaks with forked tongue.

[@mosesranala7443]

This was the best interview though Matthew's is ducking questions

[@msanembongeleni]

He was here to talk bad about Jacob Zuma

[@mosnkosi207]

Why you did not open, a case against him, at police station, if mr phosa, have enough evidence or clarity.... please guys

[@MBReader410]

Leadership includes having the wisdom to judge character and to anticipate

[@chrispotgieter1888]

@Kevin , You took the words out of my mind . For Mr. Phosa , i do respect his intelligence , but his cunningness in answering truly sensitive questions , aroused the same response i shear with @ Kevin .

[@thulanikhuzwayo6956]

I don't know what happened to Mr Phosa...i have a feeling that wisdom left him without saying goodbye. He used to be accurate sharp and direct. Today poor

[@thestream1]

by ' accurate and sharp' what are u implying? are u implying he used to say things that u agreed with or are u talking about his charisma?

[@thabokabai4188]

Lol! Loved this one! Too much to comment on but what good and robust chat. I hope Mr Phosa will be a regular- exemplary South African. I’ll definitely be buying the book!

[@thembanimgenu190]

I agree on the issue of the coalition, this thing is in a honeymoon, that document isn't even having a legal standing, it's just buddies scratching their own backs and for now I see no indication of them changing nothing.

[@rosehunter5140]

So after meeting the Guptas, he put his head in the sand and didn't blow the whistle. Is that a coward or what? Is that someone who understands the responsibility of being a leader of people who rely on them to do what is right.

[@waynevannieuwenhuizen9310]

Supported party rank and file

[@lindamolemohi8386]

Mr Phosa, clearly has SELECTIVE AMNESIA. Finish and klaar.😊

[@GilbertEmeric]

So does the ANC not have a financial manager?

[@oratile7205]

Great interview Mike

[@sonacoza]

Thank you for saying so sir!

[@kenernstzen2407]

Sounds to me that Phosa’s judgment was way off? Zuma was the beginning of the end for South Africa not just the ANC!

[@sandilemntungwa1538]

And guess what, he is back(Zuma)

[@mabaker391]

The more I watch and listen - the more convinced I am that Zuma isnt really THE problem he's been made out to be. He's not living a lavish lifestyle like he would do if he stole all that he's charged with doing.... Its anither way of distracting us from the real guilty parties - Squirrel included...

[@Yvdberg]

The State was captured by the Gupta under his presidency. The buck stops with him.

[@ikgothule6463]

Mhhh your perceptions are really questionable. Listen it without any alignment

[@mikesham3204]

Are you joking? He is living in a house that cost taxpayers more than R300m! He goes for healthcare in Russia paid for by the taxpayer. About a dozen books have been written about his criminal exploits.

[@Yvdberg]

@@mabaker391 He has a whole town Nkandla....

[@njabulomsweli5057]

​@@ikgothule6463Unfortunately it sounds as if it way opposite round.... Wake up

[@realdudevision2746]

Good interview, Mr Phosa was very worm i liked him. I can forgive someone who says we made a mistake, but at the time we really thought we were doing the right thing.

[@sellomokoka33]

They don't make them like Phosa anymore.

[@mishacknthane1060]

As a lawyer read judge Hillary Squires judgement which was passed before the polokwane conference

[@drleonjansevanrensburg1299]

He didn't read it so he couldn't know

[@mishacknthane1060]

I​@@drleonjansevanrensburg1299it is a shame

[@sandilemntungwa1538]

After listening to all Mr Phosa that has to say in this interview himself he is a good guy he is innocent 😂😂😂 so funny

[@desmondnaidoo1701]

True steps of leadership is the ability to identify the problem before it occurs.

[@adelevisser8579]

I met him very long time ago. He came to News Cafe...for coffee and read his newspaper 📰

[@Tsebomjiks9789]

La ma Grootmane ayiDisappointment. It is all about individual interests.

[@maseratifittipaldi]

"The Constitution must incorporate a Bill of Rights" But what about a Bill of Responsibilities? Surely this should come first?

[@MrMicagogome]

MR Phosa has done very well in this interview, he gained my respect here.

[@FrancoisSteyn-q1z]

I wonder how many of the people that commented on this video actually listened to the entire interview.

[@sharonadams9721]

It amazes me that the ANC bigwigs claim they did not suspect what Zuma was up to - it took Thuli Madonsela to courageously blow the lid off the pot. Mr Phosa you cannot hide behind your “mistake”.

[@lucassomtseu]

Saving lives from the gallows is a big ticket issue that I lift from this conversation .

[@Yvdberg]

This guy is full of shit. An ANC loyalist to the core.

[@alkebulanafricanconversati1728]

And you are Swart gevaar loyalist for life, it's in you and not you or any one can change that

[@Yvdberg]

@alkebulanafricanconversati1728 Are you calling me a racist because I think JZ is a part of the reason SA is such a mess? Ok Julius. Always with the race card if there is no valid argument.

[@sandilemntungwa1538]

​@@YvdbergYes you're a racist

[@TlhokaneMabela]

Matthews Phosa responded to question like a true lawyer

[@stevenmaritz2681]

Matthew Posa your a nice guy. Your 1st cabinet was advised by Eskom that power would run out of trend growth rates by as soon as 2006 and the decision to Authorise funding for power station was a priority. The advice was rejected. If you are confused or unaware ask. JR who was the man in the seat at the time.

[@troy1709-h5f]

Mathews Phosa is the BEST politician in the ANC! Make him the president!

[@thetad1242]

Nah the guy just confirmed he was duped by Zuma and he blames Mbeki for investigating an allegation to kill him. I mean any other person would have had such investigated. Mr Phosa feels Mbeki should have just left it lying down [ just like that]. How pathetic for a lawyer... Someone who knows the law who knows that the allegation ought to be tested. He went on a vengeance against Mbeki and chose not to see Zuma or ignore all the writings on the wall. Such a man with such poor judgement, can never be President. At any rate, I was a resident of MP when he was premier, there's just nothing other than Emnothweni to show that's of him. Why would he be successful as a president

[@dannystevens1749]

Even he is back peddling when confronted with reality. We must just remember patience is a virtue.....😅

[@carlkwenaite2294]

Mathews Phosa understand geopolitics and he should offer lecture on the countries economy.Presidential material.

[@justbrian7216]

Mathew Phosa is full of games, he plays his cards very well🧠🧠🧠

[@TheDialogue23]

Mr Phosa is very frank.....but very self preserving

[@colleenwerth6350]

Iron sharpening iron. That was a really good sharpening of minds of what is, and what is not re SA. Mr Phosa's parting words were particularly important. I cant recall the exact words, so I'll leave it there.

[@sithembisochibi3772]

@@colleenwerth6350 Said and I am paraphrasing, "We cannot allow this democracy to die in our hands/watch. We've got to fix it and do it with our might for the sake of our children and the coming generation".

[@SK..._]

Phosa Phosa hai nawe maan!

[@erickumalo2372]

Mathews Posa is an intelligent man he should've been the president of the country

[@musamdunge4196]

I struggle with Matthew Phosa's "When corruption reared its head!" This does not correlate with the warning made by the like of Mandela as far as the 97 elective conferences, that the ANC was attracting members who did not share in the ideals of building a new country but rather were fixated on wealth accumulation through the state... It is either that Phosa was leading with his eyes closed, which given his profile in the ANC is doubtful, or he's being dishonest or cowardly in not reflecting on how the culture of corruption did not start with Zuma and He ought to be honest about what he saw as Zuma's qualities. Perhaps the question should be put to Mbeki, what led to Zuma's elevation at the 97 ANC elective conference...This conference represents the seminal post-94 battle for the soul of not only the ANC but the future trajectory of South Africa.

[@marabunya]

The issue of infiltration of the ANC top structures dates back to before 1990 and there's a detailed report that was handed to then President Govan Mbeki and can today be found in the O'Malley Archives. That report titled "REPORT OF THE COMMISSION ON THE CABAL" lists names like Pravin Gordhan, Dullah Omar, Ebrahim, Ibrahim Patel, Billy Nair, Amos Masondo, Alf Carrim etc. Oliver Tambo himself questioned who Ramaphosa was when he made his entrance into the 1991 ANC Elective Conference where we was made Secretary General without any struggle credentials. You can't go straight to 1997 without first touching on the events that happened a decade or so before that.

[@Princelargo]

You cannot abuse power nor continue doing things which are wrong and thank it will never e exposed

[@siphamandlakhumalo5074]

THE MAN WHO ANDERSTAND THE TRUTH OF SOUTH AFRICA POLITICS

[@samungwenya-d2c]

Mr Phosa has and will always defend the ANC. It's so thoroughly annoying to watch. Considering all the damage that the ANC has caused this country.

[@sfisonopula6653]

Very informative interview

[@pamknoll7383]

We need MORE of Mr Phosa's in the government.

[@paulisidore6639]

All liberation movements in Africa have failed to deliver after gaining power. The same applies to the ANC.

[@Yvdberg]

No one donates R600mill for a high five.

[@alkebulanafricanconversati1728]

Well your understand is that of an ordinary citizen, elites live and understand life far different to your perspective.

[@Yvdberg]

@@alkebulanafricanconversati1728 Why should the tax payers make these useless people elites?

[@teresalouro1615]

Extremely naive to think people part with money for nothing. This has been proven every single time.

[@nephalamakundani9641]

It's a bit dillussion to think that Mk did not make the inroads into governance because of tribal influence its a known fact that Zulu people support their own whether it rains or shines they don't care about other people's but theirs

[@jacoschlebusch9053]

I agree, there must be rights, but we must be educated that with those rights come responsibilities. If we don't accept these responsibilities we are at risk of forfeiting these rights. Unfortunately today we are not willing to accept any responsibilities and we are seeing it in our society,

[@kwandanxaba7316]

The questions is , Who is Not stealing money from the ANC?

[@TheDialogue23]

Who is the author of the book he recommended for fundraising "What a party"?

[@maseratifittipaldi]

As long as we have political parties dividing, deceiving, defrauding, indoctrinating, intimidating and impoverishing us, we will never get on the road to prosperity. There will always be endless talking, talking , analyzing, speculating, talking and talking. The result is always predictable : Rich politicians and poor people.

[@lindiwesimelane4300]

This man must come back, he might open eyes of these blinded leaders! This time sure they will listen

[@thabomonyamane3596]

is late ntate is diet 😂😂

[@thetad1242]

This guy is running a law firm and he must continue to do that and never come back

[@phiyelokhanye9032]

Democracy must work Ngizwile it was very clear Mr Phosa

[@leboramoreboli7950]

Molefe and Zuma fixed loadshedding

[@troy1709-h5f]

The diplomats that represent SA internationally, must also reflect the mandate of the votes casted in the 2024 election.

[@henrysotela8100]

A very wise man Mr Phosa

[@Toolbox1204]

I like how Mr Phosa answer answers the questions. Especially when it comes to Jacob Zuma.

[@ThandiswaPhutye]

Eish Mr phosa sir you are so bold to come out with the truth, it show how you care about your Country, the only thing you take time to come out , why you keep quiet for a long time, ? Bcs if you came in time may be something could have done to investigate this, in time if South African law is still the law

[@KulaniFaith89]

Great read 📚 👍

[@Anonuser1895]

Mike, in my humble opinion, whilst you did ask Mr Posa some tricky questions, I do believe you could have challenged him further, in a respectful way of course, on certain matters - specifically the Zuma issue and the election of ministers. A simple “Mr Posa, I’d like to challenge you / challenge you further on the point you’ve just made…”

[@mikesham3204]

Geez, he was challenged plenty! At the end of the day, I can only push to the level beyond which he will not answer questions.

[@Anonuser1895]

@ he certainly was challenged. I imagine my goal in mind is not conducive to the long term viability of the show. I’m thinking guests must be driven to quite a high level of discomfort, assuming you feel they are being disingenuous with their answers. However, you will never have guests returning if you take this hard-line approach. Having said that, for someone like Mr Posa to say he couldn’t see the issues with Zuma is just absolutely ridiculous. It’s laughable that he said that.

[@sicelosimelane3844]

Phosa talked about HIV and no one is intrested the only obsession is on Zuma

[@Anonuser1895]

@ Zuma destroyed our country chief!! Get that through your head!! Yes, Mbeki messed up BADLY with the HIV situation; but he didn’t sell our country out to the highest bidder.

[@williemarthinus9619]

He was more than adequately challenged.

[@sokopinions]

Please stop bring these old people, their error is gone and they failed

[@tloumasogo2062]

I now understand why mr phosa was a treasure under president Zuma

[@mathebulastar2385]

Well articulated

[@braidenoraw4971]

mr Phosa WHAT ABT THe Country ToDay .The past is the Past...

[@thandugonose9769]

Say that again. At some point these veterans must stop reminiscing about what happened and open their eyes and now and today. Black people are in poverty. It is bad. I am not sure why they are quite. I don't know why we are quite.

[@johannaengelbrecht6971]

MP is an anc cadre and will always be. Lesufi is guilty and it can be proven, and will be hopefully soon.

[@angeleyeselsieshikwambane1199]

Mr Phosa is a true politician…how he answers is very calculated

[@MosesNdlovu-l1p]

Read the book authored by Julian Rademeyer, titled "Killing For Profit" then we can debate the fact how South Africa was broken. Indeed I concede that post 1994 this went wrong therefore I implore that the ANC leadership tell us the truth 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@mightymadasa1322]

The ANC and DA as largest parties by support and economic support must come together. Both must move to center.

[@sicelosimelane3844]

ANC is in the center just tell straight that to da

[@williemarthinus9619]

Mr Phosa is a distinguished and very knowledgeable gentleman. But, his inability to use empirical data to make informed decisions illustrates a serious lack of wisdom.

[@francoissteyn1983]

If we have 3 accidents at a certain crossing per week, and I tell you it's only a matter of time before it's not only damage to vehicles or injuries that's an issue but sooner or later we'll have a fatality on our hands, it's not that I'm trying to predict the future. At some stage you'll have a fatality. It's not rocket science.

[@motsepematlala82]

My only complaint despite the huge development successes, is Witbank was denied to host Provincial Government. Parliament should have been in Witbank not Nelspruit

[@ThozamileLunguza]

The coalition of the wounded

[@danieboshoff235]

Always liked mr phoza

[@mosesmabele1255]

Where is Sipho Nkosi, vele?

[@heatherstrang5577]

Neil Aggat was my neighbour in those years. Very sad what they did to him & Steve Bico.