Matsuura V8 Block Machining from Solid Billet 2013 edit NBM

Matsuura MAM72-63V machining a V8 engine block from solid material. This is almost identical to the video posted previously - only this one does not have the music - as requested by many! Enjoy the awesome tones of the Matsuura Maxia spindle creating this epic block.

[@whateveritis3103]

Here it is 2020,in lockdown,in Australia.I've watched beekeepers,woodlathes and now machining something. I'm a 71 year old woman fgs, I have no idea what is happening,but I'm glued to the screen...lol. thank you KZbinrs for making life enjoyable in the worst of times.

[@mrt6399]

how ya doing?

[@whateveritis3103]

@@mrt6399 doing great thanks,how are you? Have a great Xmas mate.❤

[@mrt6399]

@@whateveritis3103 i am well! thank you, you as well!

[@brallybear620]

Fantastic! And thanks for not having any "music". Listening to the machine is enough for me.

[@ronniescott5179]

That engine block is like a jewel. fantastic.

[@timetodopatriotstuff2315]

Matsuura fishing reels cost five grand can't fathom how much one of those blocks would run beautiful work though.

[@ze_german2921]

Can you please add the Amazon Link :)

[@markcalvert962]

Back in the 70's i worked for a smallish custom automobile manufacture in Chisinau, Moldova .Our specialty was high end automobiles for the soviet elite. We built engine blocks and other components out of cast aluminum billets that were of similar or superior quality to the matsura v8 block, although due to price considerations and time constraints most of them were in- line 4 or sometimes 3 cylinder variants. Modern cnc technology of course wasn't available in soviet block countries at that time so the machining had to be done entirely by hand, using a file, angle grinder and drill motor. The soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December '79 put the kye-bosk on the operation and we were defunded. Most examples have been lost but some of our most exemplary work remains on display at the Bulgakov museum in Moscow. The 3032 cc 4 cylinder engine was intended to power Leonid Brezhnev's luxury skiff that he used when visiting his villa on the eastern shore of the Baikal, but with his poor health and the exigencies of the war the engine was harnessed for use in an armaments factory outside of Minsk, where it was used to power a 17 ton flywheel press that was use to stamp out such necessities as differential covers for the T72 tank and and belly armor for their helicopter gun ships.

[@delirio1987]

i work for a leading aerospace company and i can tell you that manual machining is still alive. we still do the finishing of special parts on a 1975 SIP Genevoise. it takes the human touch to get that micron off

[@help_me_get_a_play_button]

Cool story, needs more dragons and shit

[@123ElTri]

@@help_me_get_a_play_button GTFO

[@kevinbacon8716]

I'm curious how much a block of billet big enough to make an engine block out of costs just for the material

[@sat-view4219]

Next year, just hit "Print".

[@hamsteaks5541]

Sat-View Nope. Additive manufacturing is in infancy, maybe even further back. There's a reason top fuel dragsters run billet machined blocks, not cast anything. That kind of tech is at least 200 years out.

[@bdkw1]

DMLS machines are all ready here. It's only a matter of time before they are common in shops other than the dental implant business.

[@tetrabromobisphenol]

Good luck getting the same properties out of a porous sintered part as you would from a forging. There's certainly alot you can do with SLS or bound metal FDM, but you won't get the same level of precision and strength as a part machined from billet or a forging.

[@mpetersen6]

I can see where the technology will get there eventually. Even after printing you are still going to have a lot of machine work to do. I really would not trust threaded holes that are 3D printed vs one drilled to the proper size and tapped using form taps. Much less any of the extremely critical surfaces, and bores. Especially in aluminum. I would not be surprised however if automotive or other engine manufacturers are using a 3D process for prototypes vs having to make special castings or welding for one of's.

[@vaiper2023]

Вот это станок! Я в восторге! Фантастика!!! Мне что бы эту деталь выполнить наверно пришлось бы 1,5 млн. установок сделать! И то так бы не получилось...

[@jonbon4047]

7:05 Rock-a-by-bilaby on the cnc top!

[@stevenJEDI3]

this is how Terminators are made

[@josephastier7421]

No, that was a movie. It will take at least another 18 months before that happens in real life.

[@melvinolson8381]

no that happened 5 years ago! Skynet is still not built tho.. so no problems till it is built.

[@thomasreinhardt9604]

Very nice Video, I hope the Engine works.

[@1ttanker]

Nice video for a nonfunctional bit of eye candy. It would have been great to see if they were able to overcome the cooling and lubrication issues and make it work. Now that would have been extra impressive I sure hope they do, I would like to see it run.

[@Nyck461]

I worked many years with CNC Machines, operating and later as maintenance technician for CNC machines. They are a piece of art.

[@jonbon4047]

9:40 when you forget to secure the part down on every axis...

[@brianday6433]

I ran a Matsuura 5 Axis 30 years ago. Great machine. Rotary table had some issues when coolant got inside it.

[@techtactics788]

What is the latest standard of cnc machines now for large scale operations?

[@7071t6]

Love how people use a V8 especially a aluminum block as a coffee table first seen one at a large servo in 1992. :)

[@peteransell5568]

Hi just curious to know how much did that cost to make that engine

[@rolandlastname5532]

Are you curious for the price of the milling machine, or the cost price of the engine block? Cost price is just an abstract concept. Better ask for the price tag of the car with that block

[@flavortown3781]

I'm just trying to figure out how the to design a water-cooled engine

[@mpetersen6]

For a closed deck. Have the cylinder liners undercut on the OD from about 20mm from each end. Have the pocket for the liners opened up over the same length. If the bores are siamesed the flats on the sides of liners will cut into the water passage. Open block as shown.

[@flavortown3781]

@@mpetersen6 um my bore is only 20mm

[@Kuban.1968]

Реальные пацаны- металла не жалеют!!!

[@shagger1968]

Can i assume this block is just for show? 5 axis simultaneous machining for the bores???No very practical

[@stevew6910]

As a novice to machining, To me it looks great :0)

[@jackjumperx4441]

Adam Wooldridge it'll probably be sleeved

[@xp677]

Also holes for the head bolts are only one one side of the cylinder bank.

[@KnoxGTX]

Correct. It's just for show. In most cases, it will be slower because the machine is doing more number crunching resulting in a slower feed rate... In most cases, most work can be done in a 3+1 or 3+2 programming...

[@williamthompson4839]

Why??..

[@dingleberryvon]

Japanese engeneeing is definatly the best.! 👍👍 Hello from lazy and crazy Germany 😪😫

[@watchman1982]

At 3:45 it would make an awesome coffee table!

[@Velocitist]

Are billet engines only used in drag racing? I’ve heard some use 4 cylinder billet engines in time attack but that’s about it, if anyone know more please let me know.

[@zaknefain100]

They're used in a lot of motorsports. Sprint cars (alcohol especially) used them for years. They're used in lots of endurance race series as well.

[@lwjw3184]

I would give anything to own one of these machines...😍😍😭😭😭

[@ze_german2921]

Chrysler Bellhousing? Whats the Aplication, NASCAR?

[@Jesusiscomingsoon613]

ZGERMAN The junkyard

[@SiriusC1024]

The purpose is display, in this case. Should complete machining be done it'd be for something like a funny car.

[@silverssonyoutube8438]

Which brand car is this v8 going into ?

[@scotttipps8155]

silverss onyoutube its a display or a demo only.

[@josephastier7421]

They are moving the workpiece in three axes while simultaneously moving the tool in two.

[@mrt6399]

no, in this particular machine the part moves in y, a and c (the rotary portion) and the tool moves in x and z

[@brandoncorwin8812]

Wow! Looks amazing! Wouldn't this method of forming the block be really expensive? Is this just a demonstration of the machines capabilities?

[@baxinst4102]

very exp

[@emersonfogaca7414]

Qual a importância de usinar a peça dentro de tanque de líquido de refrigeração porque às vezes USA LIQUIDO GELADO TANTA INFORMAÇÕES MAS NINGUÉM FALA faz isso ninguém responde é tecnologia de ponta obra de arte c.n.c. MAGNÍFICO UM BRINDE AO CONHECIMENTO E SABEDORIA E TROCA DE INFORMAÇÕES .👍

[@richardholmes9295]

Awesome

[@lawrencehenry1326]

Just plain aluminum melted down is 6063 aluminum. But I'm sure they used special alloys such as 6105 or stronger for a block application. My company actually hauled all the bullet to Fontana to press into that little Giant ladder. Which had to be strong because they guaranteed 300 lbs in any 18 inches of the ladder not to break. That is to say you can put the ladder on two other ladders sideways and you could put 300 lbs in the middle no problem. You also have 6061, 6105, 6063 and one other. That ladder they made one million lbs worth per month. All 6105 alloy.

[@ShivKumar-lb7lx]

fantastic i am very enjoy thanks programmer

[@poly_hexamethyl]

Are all engine blocks machined from a solid block of metal? Or are there other ways of making them?

[@darthvader4hire]

we got like 16 MAG3 machines at my shop...wonder if we can make it faster i dont know they dont like long cutters.

[@rockvillemike6062]

Nice Machine but a big waste of time, (waste of time watching too), It would never run and even if it did the cylinder walls would melt after a few minutes. Obviously just for show, but nonetheless a pretty cool show.....Nothing beats a big honkin' Chevy cast iron sbc though.....

[@1Jomarcel]

Aluminum Cylinder wall will have titanium liner insert

[@Fordman1989]

Mike T clearly you have no clue about racing they have liners that get inserted look up darton sleeves

[@matchlessajsbsa2157]

You appear to have finish-bored the cylinders with - presumably - a ball-nose cutter. Surely it would have been loads quicker to finish with a boring head. You used titchy cutters to do all the work instead of munching away with a big cutter to start. The whole job could've been done quicker it seems to me (the owner of an old Rambaudi/Heidenhain where 99% of part-progs get written by hand and jobs start with the biggest cutter and work down to the smallest).

[@mrt6399]

hand written programs are not great for a lot of stuff now days

[@bigbob1699]

1 , how long did it take total , 2 How many lines of code ? 3 How much stress relief ?

[@phillyphil1513]

3:25 - COOLEST COFFEE TABLE EVER...!!!

[@fw1421]

I wonder how long it takes to completely machine a block like that and how much it costs? Amazing!

[@baxinst4102]

week or two and upwards of 30k for v8s. little less for 4cyl. referred to as billet blocks for racing

[@zaknefain100]

Depends on the machine really and how they're processing the block. V8's on the LSx platform are available for ~15k right now. Some inline 4's for from 8k and up, depending what you want.

[@ammarjr6117]

Is this the actual time or you speed the video ? How many hours it tacks to finish up the operation ?

[@andrewwilson8317]

Impressive stuff, finished result just perfect!

[@brandongarretson9475]

I can do it faster on my Bridgeport...

[@larryfishbags5324]

Liberty Rising 😂 your Bridgeport runs?

[@Pjoter77]

What's the average price of custom engine built like that?

[@jannehagagatan]

Must be the most expensive engine block in the world, takes forever it seems

[@damion7014]

Why didn't they make this block closed deck for reinforced sleeves

[@skullhart]

Demo...I get it... but the water jacket design for cooling the cylinders would severely weaken the block.

[@jamesjudd1254]

Steel sleves like

[@wyattbowman3010]

What was the deep well machined in around the cylinder bores? Is that for use of a specialty modern head gasket? Or something to do with the steel inserts they put in the bore?

[@collin3800]

Just an open deck cooling design. The cylinders are completely surrounded by coolant. Very common today.

[@superMan-cn1ir]

I had worked in that field before the real problem starts when the tool broke

[@renecastro5356]

Music to my ears.

[@Duncan_1971]

CNC Twerking!

[@samstewart4807]

hi who supplies the billet?? is it forged? is it 6061?

[@kirklandelectricicnc]

It took a lot of beer cans to make that block.

[@progmetalJorge]

Steve Kirkland Beer cans are made of an aleation of aluminum and tin. Engines requires another type of material

[@kirklandelectricicnc]

I hope you thought I was kidding...but maybe not...but I was. I know dang well that engine blocks are not made of beer cans, cylinder heads are.

[@randyfewell]

Sarcasm is a lost art these days :-(

[@kirklandelectricicnc]

Thank God someone gets my sarcasm. I perfected my sarcasm years ago when I was dating women.

[@zaknefain100]

speaking of beer cans.. it's that time

[@specialized29er86]

How many hours to complete the entire block and heads? Yes the machining work is amazing but not half as amazing as the guys creating the computer programs.

[@mrt6399]

no its more amazing

[@madworldusa255]

Could you manufacture any engine block?

[@timhallas4275]

I fail to see the advantage over a cast aluminum engine block. The cost has has got to be prohibitive.

[@peterkroeker753]

Strength cast or even forged aluminum just isnt anywhere near as strong

[@mariaisopescu120]

Ok

[@lwjw3184]

How many hours did this take to complete ?

[@manueldasilva8794]

never mind the engine but this machine is unbelievable

[@Guitcad1]

Price tag for one of these blocks?

[@djbillyd9849]

AWESOME!!! I was always under the impression that aluminum engines were poured like cast iron was. That is AWESOME!!!

[@TheBlaert]

They are. This machining technique is really only used for high strength race engines and the like. Mass production engines are indeed made from castings

[@jayl4565]

Wonder what the G-Code looks like 😳

[@High-Alpha]

So.... what's the pricetag on one of these machines? 100k? More?

[@mrt6399]

this particular machine 500?

[@dorinchirchelan8873]

Wolfram, aluminium +

[@lwjw3184]

I couldn't even afford the software it takes for the machine to operate. Lol

[@CSM.HBJ-Dogg]

You could learn how to program , then create your own software 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

[@samc5898]

Am I the only one that's annoyed that the flood coolant is completely missing the tool in the beginning?

[@slash09r1]

Flood coolant's not on, you're seeing the coolant for the ways / A axis motors. It's to help keep chips out of bearing surfaces. Big Sandvik type cutters are often ran dry even on p20. And chamfer tools

[@MrA1Goku]

I wonder how long it takes to machine an engine block like this ?

[@Natan0393]

8:34 what is that hollowed way used for?

[@delirio1987]

that's the housing for an o-ring

[@rodneytatman449]

Natan Oliveira It's an open deck block, not for an oring.

[@tdawg719]

That blocks coolant jacket design seems to not be optimal. As it doesn't have any connection with the opposing side of the block, seems like that would be a weakness. But perhaps its different with billet, im not educated in that material.

[@skatir9]

It will be connected with a water pump like all v8 engines. Think about how a SBC has the water pump mounted pumping out from both banks of the block.

[@raymondj8768]

just what i was thinking . no support!

[@DmOcRsI]

Most aluminum blocks... Honda, Toyota, Nissan all have floating cylinders. You have to remember that in theory they are filled with a pressurized coolant and hydraulics offer excellent dampening of vibration as well as strength. However, a lot of people like "block savers" which are rings that are pressed-in to surround the cylinders to make sure they don't flex at higher RPM.

[@nickstorer]

This is an open deck block. There are semi open and closed deck blocks as well. There are pros and cons of each.

[@raymondj8768]

yes but the coolant pressure isent that high what 12 pounds thats not much . ..

[@francepart]

how will take to pass the whole process? how can many blocks per hour produce?

[@bricksduplooy1191]

20 Machines in a production line or more, a lot me think

[@MRGF78]

How much would something like that cost you machine???

[@cae2487]

15-20k

[@LeonAllanDavis]

Great video...just the sounds of the machinery...

[@AlfDagg]

WTF! Unbelievable the way that thing machines so intricately.

[@Mappy-xn1om]

a little slow and repetitive ......................JK -awesome !

[@tallersricard7080]

Espectacular, lo puedo mirar y mirar sin cansarme.

[@cooldog60]

Really slow process. Take forever to do 1 engine.

[@TheBlaert]

Sometimes this type of engine block manufacture has to be done depending on the application. This video is also to highlight the capabilities of the machine tool

[@MegaJohnhammond]

whatdoya mean? The music on this one was awesome.

[@ammarsyaf3035]

why not just cast it? instead of cnc

[@paddyladdd9395]

This would be great to get done at any machine shop if you had a classic car and you needed a replacement engine black

[@mrt6399]

🤣 if you had an extra 20k

[@rickkubbenga5904]

Did you make this run?

[@markmcconnell2296]

That’s art (to me anyway)

[@GuessWho-fb8of]

Thanks for reposting without music !

[@straxx99]

First time i see a engine block dance, awesome programming.

[@thetoecutter13]

Wonder how many lines of code that takes...

[@collin3800]

Yes

[@rdzt8kr]

how long is the whole process?

[@sat-view4219]

Longer than forging process -- but no furnaces!!

[@wyattbowman3010]

4 seconds

[@akronnekron233]

I wanna see them write the program without using cad/cam software

[@arrow3047]

AkrOn NekrOn for this to be programmed long hand... years of writing, millions of lines of code, and if something is a hair off, more writing.. 5 Axis programming isn’t practical without CAM

[@stevew6910]

I wonder how many hours does it take to make one

[@raymondj8768]

you just watched it 16 min. hahahaha

[@ericscheffler6441]

Im doing a cam upgrade, do i need 1 of these lol

[@richardcasey7521]

That would be a beautiful coffee table bass.

[@K-Effect]

Take my money!!

[@surfertube44]

one day robots will build robots

[@texasblaze1016]

surfertube44 like in IROBOT the movie. That would be bad ass

[@DougHanchard]

They already do.

[@Krispykashew]

how do you think the parts for the machine are made?

[@fireblade9549]

What for?

[@beguah_8445]

Cool....amazing CNC machine...😮😮😮

[@ademcelik7074]

I would like to know if that engine is supercharged how much is the max boost in bar or psi

[@MarkVickers1]

42

[@mikebaker9574]

Not supercharged

[@NGB.thuri14sv]

why not casting ?

[@Ima184mm]

Terran mobile factory

[@gettingittogether424]

That's wild

[@Keatsian007]

That is a beautiful v8

[@josephbacash6949]

Oil galleries?

[@leovanloileo5384]

like

[@JD-lu8jb]

The MAM72 is a great machine!