Matt Barnes Details The Dysfunction in Phil Jackson’s Final Season with the Lakers

Matt Barnes breaks down Phil Jackson's final season, Mike Brown's first year as the Lakers Head Coach, and the aftermath of CP3 vetoed trade. #mattbarnes #paulgeorge #philjackson #kobebryant #losangeleslakers
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[@originaltroll7511]

"PG really is Robin" lmao

[@wilsonr1022]

Lol

[@GABEMOORE533]

🗣️FACTS ! >🎤 🏀🗑️🤾⛹️

[@sshaxy860]

LO was sooooooo good. Once he was gone I knew it was over. He was like the ultimate role player. Could do it all: defense, attacking the basket, passing… he was so critical

[@nodayzoff5902]

On the clippers yea not for the lakers he was ok his defense was ok he was never locking nothing up lol, he did do good passing on the lakers thats about it, attacking the basket he was ok at that all he use to do was fake like he gonna dunk and scoop lay up left hand same move every time or a dunk every now and then, shit Shawn Marion was a better role player and defender than him . Odom wasn’t that critical why you think he was on the trade block for Chris Paul. Odom was so inconsistent good one game trash the next 5 then good again when Paul gasol got there it help Odom a lot because he wasn’t ask to score anymore or guard the bigs that helped him out a lot then he started to be consistent at playing defense and passing because we didn’t need him to try to be #2 all the proof is in the pudding go watch that 2006 season all the way to the playoffs when they played the suns when we was up 3-1 what Odom did that year lol you have to watch the games not the stats.

[@sshaxy860]

@@nodayzoff5902 I don’t agree with you.. I didn’t look at stats. I know basketball. LO was the glue that made it all work. It’s beyond the stats. His length was critical on defense and offense

[@user-dc7um4pr3f]

More than a roleplayer. A star who sacrificed like Kevin McHale, Manu, and others. He was elite. Definitely a step above a roleplayer he coulda started on pretty much any other team in the NBA at that time.

[@danieldominguez5863]

That veto fcked over the lakers immesly. Everyone brings up not getting those players but like Barnes said retaining those player they almost traded really fcked them. Odom was all in his feelings after that trade and requested a trade but nobody brings up Pau…He was professional but he was constantly in trade discussions after that and I think that more than anything messed w/ him during those final yrs as a laker. After he left the laker for Chicago I saw a totally different pau than the one the lakers had for those final 4 seasons.

[@legume_duprix]

🎯🎯🎯

[@eneskayahan]

I never get why Lakers didn't go for that Rockets package for Gasol? Dragic -Martin - Kobe - Scola - Bynum as starters and Blake, Fisher, Artest, Barnes and whoever you can get for Lamar for frontcourt depth would be a great core. Bynum was ready to be the 2nd option plus Martin and Dragic would bring that much needed spacing with their shooting.

[@davejohnson9474]

Yesssss LO was crying like a biyaach in front of Kloe hoodrt as

[@BabylonGateLA]

And after Gasol left LA, he played really good for the Bulls and made the Allstar team, so those trades discussion really F-ed him up.

[@user-dc7um4pr3f]

It's so true. Media wanted Pau out so bad he was so defeated. Kobe when he was injured in 2014 demanded that he get the ball since they tried to run the offense through Dwight when Kobe was out. Getting Dwight didn't work they were supposed to have CP3 and Bynum and that would worked. Instead they got rid of Bynum he fell off. Odom got his feelings hurt and fell off. Pau stuck it out while he became a third option and the front office and media constantly took shots at him. Went to our Bulls and honestly had one of the best seasons of his career I thought. He had a lot left to give.

[@maxdurk4624]

Thank you so much for putting those blurbs onscreen to give context to the statements made. Brilliant.

[@ericpeters0n]

Hated Matt Barnes so much as a player, but he's an absolute gem in conversation, and clearly a real one.

[@langlang420]

@ericpeters0n yeah................he's so REAL that he lost a analyst gig with Sac by making a verbal threat to a high school kid. Not to mention acting a damn fool at a game that the ninja who took his woman and his kids is coaching.

[@JL-dt1si]

When you said gem you meant an average looking rock? Dude is terrible in conversation

[@DtotheK88]

@@JL-dt1siI agree… he’s probably Gen X yet he sounds like a 17 year old Gen Z when talks lol.

[@thatleftyjames2893]

League blocking the CP3 trade was so messed up. Kobe could’ve had 7 rings…

[@timstark4731]

Why does a slightly past his prime Kobe with CP3 win two titles? They're beating the Heat in '12 or '13?

[@matthewbarbera3857]

Fucked the league blocked but mo way they win another ring in that year

[@silewis9396]

Shoulda woulda coulda. No rings are guaranteed even in a hypothetical fantasy scenario

[@jordanflores5687]

Kobe would still be alive thats how fk'd up it was that set everything in motion

[@eshahn4415]

Not without gasol. No way

[@ericbaker9007]

Timeline a bit off. Phil retired. Was not coming back 2011-12. Mike Brown gets fired early 2012-13, then Mike D’Antoni gets hired when Phil wanted back in - Kobe, Nash, Howard season.

[@MrEliasdl]

Phil definitely would have come back if CP3 trade went through in Dec 2011

[@eneskayahan]

Yeah Phil wanted them going with Shaw and keep the triangle

[@Juuuuu67]

I was thinking the same thing lol Mike brown it was bickerstaff for a little then dantoni

[@melvynsngltn27]

​@@MrEliasdlno he wouldn't

[@BoosterGoldEarth6]

Phil didn't come back bc Kobe did not want him back

[@varrick1226]

I always loved Matt Barnes mentality and the way he conducted himself on the court he's intense. He has a talent for telling what happened as well.

[@CalvinChan-yn4hi]

Do you know how crazy you have to be with fuck with Ron Artest? Phil was a mad man

[@whoknows20232]

nah Ron wouldnt touch Phil. He'd cuss and yell but touching? hell no. phil hat 11 rings at the time and gave Ron 2.

[@_gamepoint_]

​@@whoknows20232 1 for metta

[@linekerv]

I mean he coached Dennis Rodman before Ron lol

[@Yamas258]

Dude where have u been ? Phil Jackson? Guy dealt with Dennis Rodman and got the best out of him , Jordan,

[@tonygicz8]

​@@whoknows20232 Ron has 1

[@Tony-fq5bn]

Matt's rendition of the end of the Kobe window is pretty depressing as a Laker fan that followed the whole thing

[@steveshin820]

What's truly tragic is the Lakers completely squandering Kobe's physical peak with a total trash team until he threatened to leave

[@riccardoferrazzo8283]

@@steveshin820 Do you mean, the period after trading Shaq? The most dominant player in the league? Who, despite being overweight, was still able to win a title as the second best player and to be a factor in the league for 4-5 more years after the traded? Who was traded for scraps at the first decent offeres before Kobe said "me or him"? Are you really saying the responsibilities is on the Lakers and Kobe was the victim?

[@riccardoferrazzo8283]

@@steveshin820 Kobe threatened to leave when Shaq was still in the Lakers, btw. He wanted to be the guy. He wanted Shaq out.

[@peda15]

@@riccardoferrazzo8283the me or him narrative has long been debunked by Dr Buss himself

[@peda15]

@@riccardoferrazzo8283dr buss didn’t extend Shaq BEFORE Kobe was a free agent. He wasn’t paying Shaq what he wanted and O’Neal was pissed. He was cussing at the owner’s box during games. Buss stated that regardless of what Kobe decided he wasn’t gonna pay and extend Shaq. Did you forget about Shaq rehabbing “on company time” when the lakers were going for their 4th title in a row? That didn’t sit well with Lakers ownership.

[@user-lh4ff4uz6k]

I think that veto goes deeper down the rabbit hole than people think 💯

[@mspionage1743]

How so?

[@saullarios5280]

The league got greedy. They thought they could have a two good teams in LA. Clippers and lakers. Meanwhile, they completely sabotaged kobes chance at a 6th ring. And clippers never made it past the 2nd round.

[@kengieholley410]

Well the Clippers did make it pass the 2nd round . They went to the conference finals in 2021.

[@charles90210]

@@kengieholley410 10 years later 😂

[@richmadrid9563]

Jim Buss essentially f*cked up Kobe's last possible comeback to get a ring, by not signing back Phil Jackson.

[@jordanflores5687]

And ppl wonder why mike left

[@VersatyleMusicGroup]

You are absolutely right

[@tomevers6670]

@@jordanflores5687he had a gambling addiction that would of came out if he didn’t “retire”,

[@maxdurk4624]

Yeahhhh riiiiight. They got swept by Dallas with Phil, and got mopped by OKC the next year. Phil wasn’t fixing a damn thing.

[@Fieryvortex48]

Phil Jackson didn't want to coach no more, lmao. Why do people forget this? Game moved past him and it showed in that sweep. Phil Jackson isn't fixing Nash/Dwight injuries either

[@vvvshashank]

How cool it would be to have Christian Bale on the pod

[@brandonsantiago2298]

Why? I’ve never heard of him being a basketball fan

[@sipwhitemocha]

@@brandonsantiago2298 Because he's super cool

[@ManDinqa]

​@@brandonsantiago2298This is what happens when Wypipo start watching Black shows, they wanna see Wypipo on the show.

[@brandonsantiago2298]

@@ManDinqa are you trying to say white people?

[@redman6790]

@@ManDinqa😂

[@nicknett8]

LO the respect he deserves

[@shonuff4323]

I truly think if Odom had Kobe's work ethic, he could have been one of the greatest to ever play. He was so insanely talented and along with his length... damn. He was lazy though.

[@erichvonmanstein6876]

Kobe's work ethic? BWAHHHHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! good joke kid

[@turnupthesun81]

As a Dallas fan, I was worried about facing the Mavs into the playoffs. LA smacked the shit out of Dallas 110-82 two weeks before the playoffs.

[@kpay10]

How can you have the Mavs of your a Dallas fan? Doesn't make any sense

[@dennisgreene2544]

Just, getting started

[@joseyeastwood]

“ You effen effed up feet “ 😂😂😂😂

[@gregoryemeagwara5933]

Jackson the only coach to 3 peat in the Modern era💯🏀

[@Mike1122.]

Almost did it twice but for McChale sending Garnet to Boston and they forming a big 3 with Pierce and Allen.

[@erichvonmanstein6876]

He has done it three times kid ​@@Mike1122.

[@nocturne311]

“Whatever you needed… LO was that, you know, he was kind of the pusher…” It’s wild that Lamar hid his addiction so well despite his teammates knowing stuff like this about him.

[@jeffreymorales5207]

Team ownership Jim vs Jeannie, CP3 trade fell off, those ruined Kobe's chase for a 6th ring.

[@mymagicisntgivingup5908]

Jeanie Buss inherits her father's wishes. Jim isn't the best owner

[@melvynsngltn27]

Please by 2013 they weren't winning anything

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

Matt Barnes greatest shot in Game 7 in his career

[@g..._anthony27]

Mike was using a terrible offense

[@bobbicampbell5233]

Yeah, then he wanted to do the "Princeton Offense", whatever tf that is. Can you imagine trying to go from the Triangle to that? It went over like a box of rocks, and it was clear at the beginning of the 2012 season all was not well in Lakeshow Land...and then it got worse. Yeesh.

[@FupaDoncic]

You know you cold when they name top shelf green after you. LO is a legend in my eyes.

[@nyquiloxide941]

"he's a demon" 😮😮😮 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

[@feedthesnake3394]

if cp3 joined the lakers, it would have started the small ball era 3 years before kerr figured out what to do with curry.

[@qco1414]

Nice teammate, led Lou put the mouthpiece in his mouth after Shaq wear it in his balls for a whole practice. I will never look this guy in same way. Tough guy.

[@kingston286]

Facts

[@lukekylestanley4072]

please explain better. Lou who? Tyronn Lue? Who made Lou put a mouthpiece in their mouth? What is the name?

[@qco1414]

@@lukekylestanley4072 you can find the video in this podcast, it's call something like Matt Barnes tells hilarious Shaquille O'Neal joke.

[@elbowgang9715]

Lou Admunson I believe was his name

[@cognitivedisability9864]

@@qco1414 ive heard other stories where shaq would shit in a bucket and throw it at people...

[@RoyPage1970]

Bryant was never anywhere near Jordan's level getting swept out of the playoffs by JJ freaking Berea 😂😂😂

[@redcomet0079]

I bet you were in the crib when that series was going on in 2011 little baby 🍼

[@ericwilliams460]

Barnes said what L.O. was is DOPE😂😂😂😂 How about it's impressive 😅

[@StephenBeale]

Hopefully one day a video of Ron Artest going off on Phil Jackson about his feet will surface 😂

[@Richxwolf]

Neet matt on gils arena

[@cristianlopez6801]

If the league doesn’t that trade kobe wins at least another 2-4 rings and changes the whole goat convo drastically…

[@moneymoney3235]

Cause Chris Paul is known for winning rings right

[@cristianlopez6801]

@@moneymoney3235 cause kobe is known for winning them not cp3…. He’s got 5 in 7 trips… you got room temperature iq 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nyquiloxide941]

The elites ain't gonna let that happen. Did you see the cartoon of kobe's heli crash years before he passed? It's all rigged.

[@kingdave31]

David Stern was such a crook. Always putting his thumb on the scale and trying to manipulate things.

[@gringoboy701]

I don't think switching CP3 and Pau Gasol changes anything drastically. CP3 hasn't even won anything as the 3rd best player so wtf he gonna do as your #2? Kobe was also at the tail end of his career when that trade would have occurred so saying 4 more rings is hilarious considering how injured he was at that point.

[@AlmightyWavyy]

I will take that CP3 blocked trade to my grave. Probably the worst thing that happened to the Lakers since the Kobe/Shaq split. Man. I remember when it happened and then un-happened.

[@langlang420]

@AlmightyWavyy yeah he's certainly helped bring a title to all those other teams............................NOT.

[@Enoughsenoughnomas]

Wish I could get an honest take on the 03 and 04 lakers; everyone was to scared to talk about it after stern got behind the Kobe train

[@davidr4523]

The best comment was Lamar Odom, would supply the "females on deck if you need, like whatever you needed." You see this is a good definition of a teammate..

[@Visual_Ghoul]

Kobe led by example. I guess this is one of his forms of leadership.

[@craigsilver9]

What killed us that year was Andrew Bynum’s attitude.

[@davi09garcia19]

Matt Barnes was 1-30 shooting 3s that series vs the thunder

[@X02Overdose]

He was 2-6 lol

[@coasteyscoasteys4150]

​@X02Overdose he would've taken more than 6 3s in a whole series

[@Edot15]

love to see them give Odom his flowers.

[@rubenlabrana7108]

Naw the window re opened with Nash and Howard, that was an amazing team that could’ve gotten a ring if not for the Achilles tear

[@danielgibson1441]

PG really is robin is crazy 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ChickenTone378]

Wtf is it about Phil and these ‘organizations’ right before the 3rd?

[@tuesday65971]

If the Lakers had gotten Pau Gasol in the summer of 2007, they would have 3-peated '08, '09, '10.

[@DukeDeNiroDollas]

3:24 That’s my Ni99a!!! 🙌🏾

[@KamoteCueBBB]

The biggest WHAT IF : KBCP3!

[@jonnuanez7183]

How cool that Yankees and A's legend Reggie Jackson came to their podcast. He's old. I'm surprised he can still get around.

[@skevincampbell]

There’s no ex NBA player I believe less than Matt Barnes.

[@atm1live]

Jeanie should have took over right away.. That other Buss is dogsht

[@richardsong7732]

the only reason why she looks decently competent is because of Lebron. She’s no better basketball-wise

[@Tony-fq5bn]

@@richardsong7732 Seriously, Jeannie's a big ole groupie and Lebron wanted to come to LA anyway and its still nothing but constant drama in LA

[@MrEliasdl]

I thought so back then. Now that she sold out Laker tradition for LeBron I think differently

[@mymagicisntgivingup5908]

@@MrEliasdl How? The Lakers are superstar land

[@redcomet0079]

That team was fantastic. They were unbeaten for 1/3rd of the season. They peaked too early

[@superemesean5907]

0:40 was really hoping a photo of Phil’s feet would flash on the screen 😭😢

[@chefboyrgee4142]

No fan knew this man as L.O. 😂

[@vincentvaldez6459]

To those people saying CP3 and Kob wouldn't win a ring together even if the trade did go through. Why did the league veto the trade?

[@TheDefenseIsUpNext]

Cos Donald Sterlibg was super close with David Stern

[@deonlepharaoh]

The trade was vetoed because the league was operating business for new Orleans at the time and other owners didn't think it was fair that a team ran by the league was giving the Lakers a star player out of favoritism.... Imagine how every other fan base felt when a team ran by the league gives their best player to the most popular and successful team....felt like collusion

[@phillie2137]

The New Orleans Hornets didn’t have a owner at the time so they were owned by all 30 teams in the league, for a trade to go through, it would have to be approved by all the owners, owners like Dan Gilbert and Michael Jordan voted against it after that shit that happened with Miami so the trade got vetoed, David Stern didn’t stop the trade to hurt Kobe

[@patitoduck123]

I’m glad everyone here commented letting you know what really happened. No one was trying to screw over Kobe lol, the trade was screwing over the hornets and the other team owners were not cool with it.

[@ericworthamii6945]

Matt's ability to articulate a story descriptively and chronologically is a solid PSR for smoking herb lolol

[@TheWillmac3]

Cp wasn't getting traded for pau tho

[@josephalvarez5315]

Reggie?!??

[@user-lu5om2sk1i]

Damn David Stern...he knew what he was doing and I still dont respect it

[@BAYAREA-kd1ig]

You got Gasol that was a bank robbery.

[@joelmavstexas6276]

How would you say Cp3 trade would’ve got Kobe another ring? No Pau? Pau ended being a brother & Lamar ended up being a little brother.. Cp3 couldn’t have helped Kobe against The Ticket & The Truth & Shuttlesworth..

[@MrEliasdl]

Old injured CP3 on the Rockets had the Durant Curry warriors beat with Harden doing little. If he didn't go down to injury he would have finished them. You don't realize how good prime CP3 was. He would have been a perfect fit for pre Achilles Kobe who could still turn it up when needed.

[@touregarrett]

WTH are you talking? Boston was a nonfactor after the 2010 year. They never got back, so why would they worry about them.

[@ErnestTaylor-xm1ww]

Bottom line David Stern didn't want the Lakers or Kobe to be in the Goat conversation...Lakers are still considered the Greatest Sports Franchise and Doc Buss is the Grratest Sports Owner

[@yeon723]

cp3 for pau would not have been good....why would they consider it at the time?

[@drec00k206]

You must be under 30 lol

[@MrEliasdl]

Old injured CP3 had the Durant Steph Warriors beat with Harden doing little. Prime CP3 with Pre-achilles Kobe and all the support players that would have come? That's at least two chips. CP3 is a 1 level player like Kobe. Pau was a 2 at his best and 3 by that time. Pau at that time did nothing special with the Bulls or Spurs. I loved Pau as a Laker but he only shined that bright because of Kobe.

[@yeon723]

@drec00k206 no I'm older and I remember, pau won 2 chips with kobe already while cp3 is injury prone and not proven in the playoffs

[@ResidentNick]

​@@yeon723Pau mentally checked out. He never recaptured his 2008-2010 form for the Lakers after he discovered that his whore of a partner cheated on him and that the Lakers basically traded him for Chris Paul managed to make things worse.

[@Zeus0886]

They hired Mike Dantoni instead of Phil not Mike Brown

[@gregorydunston2952]

They actually did hire Mike Brown first. They hired D’Antoni after they fired Mike in the beginning of the 2012-13 season

[@Zeus0886]

@@gregorydunston2952 yea i know that

[@33bigmoney]

Odom is kinda like Kukoć

[@lebronfan666]

The league NEEDED A Kd veto to warriors

[@pattybaselines]

This dude doesn’t age

[@polothispolothat6050]

Pau wasn’t involved in the Cp trade

[@kevinhorry4182]

Yes he was, 3 way trade had him going to Houston

[@mymagicisntgivingup5908]

The trade is Lakers: CP3, Rockets: Pau, David West, 2 first rounds, and Hornets: Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Lamar Odom

[@joeloco3453]

What about the disfunction in Matt’s skills. He ain’t sh3t

[@kincamell2]

Dec. 8 in 2011, then NBA Commissioner David Stern vetoed a three-team trade that would have sent Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers Allegedly , the NBA commissioner does not have the power to veto a trade unless there is some violation of the rules .

[@richborn6700]

The NBA as a body also owned the Hornets instead of a private owner so they had more authority to shoot it down

[@mikekillagreen9432]

Glossed over trading "Fish". Lol. There's alot more to that story for those two. 😂

[@Dark.RoomReviews]

Andrew Bynum brutal shot to Mavs player

[@mackenziestewart7318]

So many what ifs: what if Phil coached that Dwight Kobe team. Could he have Jedi mind tricked them into figuring it out? And then like Prime Chris Paul and 85% of prime Kobe could have been ungodly. Kobe as a mid range run off picks catch and shooter would have been fucked. Also a completely unrelated, but what if they retained Trevor Ariza. He was so good for them. Would have been cool to see how his career is different. Also healthy Bynum would have been nice

[@ryanschwarz3024]

I always described LO as a very poor man's LBJ.

[@chiggsytube]

These CP3 stories are hogwash. The biggest concern for small franchises is losing their players to bigger, coastal franchises. The NBA is all the owners together. It has nothing to do with Kobe. The NBA is NOLA and Milwaukee, and Toronto, etc. Why would they want such a lopsided trade, unless it was going from the coast to them? If they allow CP3 to move like that, how would they keep other stars from forcing trades as well?

[@Enoughsenoughnomas]

CP and Kobe aren’t winning a ring; and the triangle offense was done, had been surpassed stradegy wise; Kobe wanted more rings he shouldn’t have trashed the triangle in 2003;

[@jaelenhouse6335]

tall lengthy and can do it all?🤣 no way you said that with no pause

[@BAY-8]

Cp3 on LAL definitely would not have won. The chip is his kryptonite.

[@kaksmirknight5318]

Common Matt, Pjax didn't anounced that hegot health problems in April of 2011 and won't be back. It was Jim Buzz told the Lakers team that no matter what the outcome of the playoffs Pjax will not return. Grrat way to deflate a team mentally. In 2012 of November same person chose D ant over Phil. Thats because Jim took over when Dr. BUSS DIEd. That lead to Kobe's dragging the Lakers to.the playoffs and destroyed his body in the process. Pjax said in his 2011 exit interview, this is tbe first time thay I coached a team who don't know how to adjust at all.

[@CarCrazy24]

CP3 and later Dwight added to the Lakers would have given Kobe an easy 2-3 more titles. The league was jealous

[@melvynsngltn27]

Your insane if you believe that nonsense

[@CarCrazy24]

@@melvynsngltn27 why? Who is beating CP3, Kobe, and Dwight? That one trade changes everything, basically gives Kobe a longer runway for success.

[@melvynsngltn27]

@CarCrazy24 your joking right. Losing Gasol and Odom would be huge Dwight got hurt in 2012 and he would definitely get hurt again. With no other front court player and new coach and teammates that team would flop

[@bencheveryday]

I never get tired of Matt Barnes' cadence.

[@hyeboi]

Only lebum can recruit 10 super stars, God forbid cp3 came for pau lmao

[@deansnipah1392]

Didnt Kobe only have 4 rings towards the end of PJackson's era?

[@chandleryen7315]

Kobe had to overcome so much adversity to get to his 5.

[@Losttimes1992]

Jackson is still the GOAT coach.

[@pjpj2639]

Matt Barnes….not that good….lakers didn’t have a good supporting cast…Barnes no defense…

[@harrym9655]

The Lakers & NBA ruined Kobe’s last years

[@briananderson9650]

That’s why queen James goat comments drive me nuts.. he not only behind Mike he behind Kobe too😂. Rip Kobe an everyone on that chopper🙏🙏

[@Jim_Bag]

Remember they vetoed that trade because owners complained it was unfair for Kobe to pair with CP3 and possibly Dwight. But lebron can play with anyone. They didn’t want Kobe throwing a wrench into their new cash cow lebron and stop him from winning those two pathetic ones he got in Miami

[@cbass9323]

Another reason for me to not like LeFraud James

[@Leondap2024]

Nah the reason why some of the owners was complaining was they wanted the Lakers to stay in luxury tax lane that trade would had gotten the Lakers out of the luxury tax lane

[@lorddj9910]

If that was the case the league would’ve never allowed KD to join the Warriors lol think before you type idiot

[@icemike1]

Kobe has 5 rings just two finals MVPS 😂

[@absentstars474]

You ran out of chore boy, LO was there for you.

[@48Peri]

David Stern was bogus

[@BingoLongTravelingAllStar1945]

Jordan got six finals mvps

[@redman6790]

Big Goverment in da buildddingggg

[@TreeSnackz]

LO7

[@xLonnyBreaux]

😂😂😂

[@TheBargainBoxer]

Who’s the white guy on the couch?

[@michaeltootikian4402]

Lamar Odom was a good basketball player and athlete

[@littlemj34]

duh

[@freshoftheoven965]

I really don't listen to matt Barnes he averaged 5 points a game tf

[@wonderful780]

Lol he was in the NBA for 14 years, what are you 12? Just to get into the league is extremely difficult and requires a great deal of talent

[@freshoftheoven965]

@@wonderful780 he got lucky making it ,he was low tier

[@mymagicisntgivingup5908]

Do your research

[@freshoftheoven965]

@@mymagicisntgivingup5908 I did he was a bum

[@placeducinema]

Somebody please tell PG to stop touching the mic. Annoying and totally unnecesary.

[@j5daniel182]

Gasol lost his fire coz his GF cheated on him. Odom was gassed out. That's why the Lakers decided to trade them for CP3. Would they have won with CP3? not sure. They basically lose most of their length . Bynum was an all-star caliber center but he injury prone .

[@brandonsantiago2298]

They definitely needed more pieces but a team with a prime CP and Kobe is bound to make noise, and people would’ve been more inclined to play with the lakers. When people saw that the lakers weren’t winning and Kobe was getting old they felt they didn’t want to deal with an aging cranky Kobe and no one wanted to come to LA. But if we had CP the story might’ve been different.

[@pingpongbro88]

@@brandonsantiago2298 Kobe was not in his prime and was already declining athletically and especially defensively. Trading your big man duo of Gasol and Odom is a massive blow. Miami, OKC, San Antonio all improved post-2011 and I don't see how LA beats any of those teams. Kobe fans are irrational and argue on emotion, not logic. (if you're only implying CP was in his prime, my bad. I stand by my point)

[@brandonsantiago2298]

@@pingpongbro88 yeah I don’t think you read my comment properly. Kobe nor Gasol were no longer in their prime but Kobe could still ball. Kobe was still averaging the same numbers of 27 ppg, but you look at Gasols numbers and his went down every playoff. Bynum was injury prone and Odom after winning those chips got complacent and no longer had the drive to keep working on his game and body, he said so himself hence he literally retired a couple of years later. Artest was old and slow as well and no longer in his prime. The lakers definitely needed to trade for better pieces around Kobe in order to contend. And like you said the Heat, the Spurs and a raising OKC were all better than the lakers. But if you simply had CP3 along side Kobe just with them two they could’ve gotten more out of the players around them. Whether people want to admit it or not CP has always made his teams better, he made the clippers better, he made Houston better, he helped a bunch of rookies in OkC to make the playoffs and he made the Suns better. CP is not really a closer, but you’d have Kobe for that. Kobe with CP would’ve been a great duo, and if they had gotten Howard (although after that back surgery he was never the same) they would’ve had a really good big 3. Kobe would’ve never busted his Achilles and what we’re seeing of Lebron playing great in his 19th, 20th, 21th season we would’ve seen Kobe do it first and would’ve had at least a contending competive team instead of being at the bottom of the barrel in his last 3 seasons. Right now Lebron has benefited a lot of the play in tournament. Cause if it weren’t for that he wouldn’t have made the playoffs last year nor 2021 nor this year either. So Lebrons final years have not been pretty either, and I think we can all agree he has had a better team than what Kobe had from 2013-2016

[@Tony-fq5bn]

The plan was to get Dwight too, which they eventually did, unfortunately the whole CP3 veto thing really fucked the Lakers up big time and for a long time

[@pingpongbro88]

@@brandonsantiago2298 they could've been competitive but with Bynum/Kobe/CP3 filling out 95% of their salary, the rest of the team would be paid in luxury tax and a lot of minimum guys. Not saying Gasol and Odom weren't declining but you still need a presence on the interior. Getting CP3 solves one issue but creates another It would've been great to see Kobe remain on good teams till season 20 though. He'd have to clearly be the second best on a team like LeBron right now. Golden State was right around the corner. I don't think he would've got #6 but who knows what happens with roster construction Also, Kobe's ludicrous contract in his final years kept that team from being able to be viable or competitive. A non-factor was eating up their salary on the bench and a bunch of guys on rookie contracts and vet minimums were dragged by the media for trying to do their best with what they had. They had to accept mediocrity with an expiring Bryant contract

[@ScoeRelated]

reggie jackson it’s so people in detroit wanna talk to you about that money you stole from