Matt Walsh Cancelled Me

[@pintswithaquinas]

super respectful response, good for you

[@DrJordanBCooper]

Thank you sir.

[@Adam-ue2ig]

I don't know Mr. Walsh and I'm not accusing but it sometimes or even often seems there is an underlying hostility existing between Catholics (I believe Mr. Walsh is Catholic) and Protestants. In my experience with Catholics online they tend to be extremely hostile and sensitive to any criticism whatsoever (especially from Protestants). I'm sure some or much of that happens in the opposite direction too though.

[@Adam-ue2ig]

Inquiring minds would perhaps wonder if Dr. Cooper was a Catholic theologian would he have got the same intense reaction?

[@mromero120]

Am I the only one reading this comment with an Australian accent?

[@noahfletcher3019]

@@that_sun_guy6527 Hes catholic but he has said that he doesn't really think denominations matter. He sees protestants as brothers and sisters.

[@nate9601]

I’m jealous. I wish I was canceled by Matt Walsh

[@AWlpsSHOW36]

Why? It's just this braindead immature brat getting triggered over random people for random reasons that somehow don't align with his ignorance, and also to send his little tribe to go and bully and harass.

[@ChristianCombatives]

I would love to see an interaction between the Daily Wire folks and an actual Lutheran. Even the Orthodox Jew and Roman Catholics in the group seem to be influenced by the higher critical movement, and unfamiliar that any other view besides "General American evangelical" exists.

[@SunwardTerror]

I agree. I’ve listened to Jeremy Boreing’s Sunday pastoral segments and he definitely utilizes higher criticism in his biblical analysis

[@calebhickerson]

Dr Cooper, I have to say that your work on Marxist thinkers has been much more meaningful to me on recognizing the dangers of it than any “talking point” conservatives have ever done.

[@michaelmcgee335]

Matt’s great he’s as funny as fuck and completely unapologetic. Not saying I agree with everything says.

[@generalvictoriouskilljoy8146]

conservatives aye? The dems tried to abscond with children for ideological genital mutilation! It's over for the left. I was left until that.

[@newreformationapologetics4953]

I hope you and Matt can have a conversation about this. I really do appreciate both of you guys and your work.

[@jazzstandardman]

Same here. Pride is an obstacle that sometimes gets in the way for all of us and causes us not to listen. I hope Matt sees this response.

[@michaelmcgee335]

Matt does have a pretty big ego and I’m a fan.

[@JesseDLC]

I appreciate how you're addressing it from a pastoral context instead of from the right/left culture war context that M. Walsh represents, where no one listens to each other but shouts at each other.

[@_Keith_]

The Left is overwhelmingly anti-Christian, pro-sin/perversion/idolatry/death. They should be called out for it, so that their power in government and society may be diminished, and so that the truth may call them to repentance. "Hate the sin, love the sinner."

[@alpha4IV]

As an active Catholic in good standing I really appreciate both you and Gavin Ortlund. Both of you have helped me to appreciate “Protestant” theology and later Christian thought post reformation as I had only ever heard terrible underdeveloped takes from tv evangelist, prosperity preachers, and anti-Catholics on youtube and in person. If the historic protestantism that you present was more prevalent in ecumenical and interfaith/interdenominational dialogues there would be more bridges built.

[@sethhansen3626]

Being raised as a confessional Lutheran while having affiliations with the Catholic Church and also being someone who is pursuing a calling to pastoral ministry, unity between the more sacramental denominations is a big passion of mine.

[@johnnyg.5499]

ALPHACENTURIAN, you express my thoughts EXACTLY. I'm a practicing RC also and have viewed Dr. Cooper & Pastor Ortland's videos for years and have profited greatly from them in my own spiritual life.

[@david-468]

Catholic and Protestants are both warped views of Christianity I suggest actually researching the history of the Catholic Church, because if you read their doctrine you would think it’s a cult, they are the globalist anti-church

[@electric336]

What do you mean by "in good standing"?

[@alpha4IV]

@@electric336 in the world of Catholicism, just claiming that “I’d know because I was raised Catholic” or “and I went to a Catholic school” doesn’t mean anything, & usually is a tell tell sign that you don’t know what you are talking about. There are Lapsed Catholics, cultural Catholics, folk Catholics, Generational/Cradle Catholics, Liberal theology Catholics, Radical Traditional Catholics, & sedevacantist. All of which claim special knowledge about Catholicism just because they were baptized Catholic at some point in their life. A Catholic in good standing is what it sounds like, they have all their sacraments fulfilled, go to church/mass on each day of obligation (Sundays & Holidays) [not just once a year at Christmas], go to confession at least once a month, receive communion or a blessing every mass, are active participants in their local parish, and have not been censored nor excommunicated by their bishops. And usually (though not necessarily) they have chosen a vocation or extraordinary obligation of some kind: marriage, religious, prayerful, ministerial, ect.

[@erikmiller2514]

Personally, I’m thankful for both of you guys. I pray that we (conservatives) can reach a point, where, a persons ideas may be critiqued without the threat of “being cancelled.” “As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.”

[@milakuzmanic3313]

You are praying for creation of an environment where people can speak their mind without bad consequences. At the same time, you use an image of someone who gave to humanity an example of total bravery - speaking the truth and bearing the horrific consequences. Maybe you should pray for more bravery in Christ followers.

[@erikmiller2514]

Mila, Kindly, please do not interpolate your ideas into what I wrote. I am not advocating the “creation of an environment where people can speak their mind without bad consequences,” but rather cultivate an environment where ideas may be freely discussed and critiqued without the threat of being canceled. Cancel culture is antithetical to free speech and is the epitome of cowardice.

[@milakuzmanic3313]

@@erikmiller2514 "creation of an environment where people can speak their mind" = "cultivate an environment where ideas may be freely discussed" and "without bad consequences" = "without the threat of being canceled" I didn't interpolate anything new into what you said. As you can see, the statements above are EQUIVALENT (if you don't refuse to see the obvious equivalency). What is being canceled other then a bad consequence ??? I perceived that your wishes and prayers are NOT congruent with the example of Jesus. Should Jesus not have spoken freely because he was about to be crucified? Did killing of Jesus stop the spread of his message or was it the start of the best thing for humanity ever? If you want to wait for a certain environment in order to speak freely you missed a very important aspect of Jesus's teaching and of the example of the apostles. Did they wait for a "environment without the threat of being canceled" in order to speak? NO, when it is important to speak out, YOU SPEAK OUT if you are a true Christian. The truth is less threatened by crazy people who spread this monstrous ideology of destroying children. The truth is MUUUCH MORE threatened by people who know the truth to say but don't have the spine to say it. I stand behind what I said. I encourage you to pray for courage. Not a safe space. Pray for courage to speak when it's important, without fear of a possibility of being canceled. JUST LIKE JESUS. Pray for strength to endure the consequences of speaking the truth. JUST LIKE JESUS.

[@erikmiller2514]

Mila, You're quite good at crafting false equivalencies and red herrings. Your “perception” is rooted in logical fallacies and an argumentative spirit.

[@donaldthesavage1288]

I agree, but Walsh’s “cancellations” are tongue-in-cheek, for the record.

[@adampetersen4795]

No one can ever accuse you of hiding in academia. God has given you so much boldness to stand up for the confessional Lutheran tradition. I so wish I could be like you. Always defending the faith. You're a general in the army Dr C. Respect.

[@SnowBorn1]

At this point, Matt Walsh is more of a Conservative than a Christian. He is a conservative apologist. For some reason or another, he just can't comprehend that Pastors are more concerned with the preaching of the Gospel than the preaching of Conservatism.

[@kenvisvielgern4436]

You say conservatism and christianity as if they were two different things. They are one and the same. You cannot be a christian without being conservative.

[@SnowBorn1]

@@kenvisvielgern4436 they are not the same.

[@gamingnovices5166]

@@kenvisvielgern4436 Depends on what you mean by “conservative”. If by conservative you mean holding to traditional morality, I agree. If however by conservative you mean being economically conservative, proponents of Christian nationalism and/or theonomy, or being on the right of the political spectrum, I disagree. There are many Christians who hold to traditional morals while voting democrat. I’m not one of them, mind you, but they very much exist, and it’s unreasonable to expect all Christians to think the same way politically.

[@Adam-ue2ig]

Even if one granted your premise it doesn't follow that they are one and the same. It would just mean that's a shared aspect.

[@bradenglass4753]

@@kenvisvielgern4436 incorrect entirely, you must be a baby boomer

[@diannalaubenberg7532]

Yeah, Matt overreached a little on that one; however, I hope it sends a few eyeballs to you. The other guy who criticized Matt's involvement was far more deserving of cancellation than you are, as his ststements were far less reasonable than your statements were. Simply, you fight with your tools, as Matt fights with his tools.

[@TheHistoryShelf]

This is another reason why I cannot recognize myself in the current iteration of "conservativism" in this country. The left AND right have lost their critical thinking faculties in this rush to cancel everything rather than engaging with differences intellectually. Props to you, Dr. Cooper! Haters gonna hate, so just stay true to your vocation, calling, and scholarly pursuits. Your measured and rational response just raises my estimation of you. God bless, sir.

[@limlaith]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Neither my father (lifelong conservative Christian) nor I (lifelong classical liberal, lapsed Catholic) can see ourselves in either the Liberal or Conservative camp. The left and the right have done LOST their damn MINDS. Insanity descended upon them at almost the exact same time. Dr. Cooper - you, sir, ARE on the Front Line. Dr. Peter Boghossian is an academic, a philosopher, and just like you, he is living on the Front Line. Keep up the Good Fight. 😃👍

[@johnnywatson4914]

@Curtis MH this is a very hasty generalization and simply not always the case.

[@mcfarvo]

​@johnnywatson4914 yeah, it is the "Exceptional Contrarian Centrist" that tries to cancel both "The Left" and "The Right" by fence-sitting and dismissing all counter claims that don't fit their own political agenda as "Far/Radical/Extreme" tantamount to "wrong because it's too fundamental" which does not follow

[@michaelmcgee335]

The left is worse, but yeah they both have their faults.

[@logicaredux5205]

I’m sorry this happened to you Doc. I respect you and I respect Matt Walsh and Daily Wire. Friendly fire casualties are a part of war. Don’t give up and I hope he sits down with you.

[@avijod]

I'm a big fan of Walsh's and I'd never heard of you before, but I think you answered his criticism excellently and will subscribe to your channel

[@joshuawarren1715]

THIS IS HILARIOUS! 😂 Poor guy is getting it from every angle, I'm sure he's got assistants doing the vast majority of his research on "who's saying what"... It'd actually be AMAZING listening to the two of you!

[@harley6659]

I'm gonna need a library tour video

[@SamuelMoerbe]

This is such a well done response Dr. Cooper. Thank you for all of your work, it has been very impactful on my own academic and spiritual journey.

[@anorman728]

If I remember rightly, Apologia's criticism was *quite* a bit harsher than yours, haha. Walsh jumped in without thinking deeply about it, which is a frustration I often have with him. The movie was his best work that I know of. I appreciate your work, and obviously I'm not the only one. I'm definitely loving your "Makers of the Modern World" series.

[@andya7012]

Your critique was spot on. The documentary will not reach the people that it needs to. Everyone who’s going to watch it already agree’s with the premise

[@ratatoskr9366]

So we should just wait for someone else to make the film? Truth is, whether you agree with the Daily Wire or not, they're the only ones brave enough to bring this issue to light.

[@dan7223]

Churches have been cowards on this subject...Matt Walsh has been out front on fighting this evil that is sweeping America

[@oboylebeast]

They are the only ones that made a documentary about it. Many theologians and pastors have been talking about this problem for at least a decade in its current form, and in other forms for a lot longer. Nothing against the daily wire, they just aren't the only ones talking about this.

[@kz7115]

That’s true of most documentaries, books, and news, though.

[@redredred1]

@@oboylebeast So Matt Walsh won't reach the right people, but theologians will? Give me a break. Whatever your view on it, theologians didn't bring this issue to the front lines in the culture war, it was Walsh.

[@huntsman528]

Dude, this is hilarious. Matt was right to talk about the fact that nobody else would have made the film, but he was WRONG to cancel our man Jordan B Cooper! You're right that the impact of the film could be greater without political associations. #UNCANCELJORDANBCOOPER

[@NoName-oy2tk]

It is true. Even so called other Christians or pastors or teachers tiptoe around political topics and if people didn't want somebody like Matt Walsh(or Daily Wire) doing it then maybe they should have been the ones to step up. However, they are too busy tiptoeing around these sorts of issues. Wearing kid gloves so to speak. Same people who would be quick to criticize others for being ignorant on such issues are almost intentionally avoiding the issue when the issue needs to be faced head on. Ignoring it is in a way enabling it. People will say they aren't, but if somebody isn't vocal about it then we will just keep treading down this weird path with this gender ideology stuff.

[@davidsandrock7826]

I’m pretty sure Matt does not believe in cancel culture and is simply being satirical.

[@Dilley_G45]

Matt needs to apologize, who does he think he is? Definitely not more intelligent than JC

[@mloney9772]

Guys keep in mind that Matt Walsh has also cancelled his kids and wife several times. Most of the reason he does the segment, is to mock the idea of cancellation. If anything Mr. Jordan she feel honored that his words touched a nerve. He is obviously right that the movie is very powerful and there are some people will never watch a movie made by DW. Matt is also right no one else would have made the film. God bless you all!

[@AWlpsSHOW36]

Really? Well if he is just trolling and being stupid and making a mockery of stuff then he shouldn't be taken seriously at all. His 'fight against gender ideology' should not be supported and taken seriously. He's just an immature big man child who's terribly ignorant and bigoted.

[@GregAspenson]

I had a discussion with a liberal friend of mine about gender ideology and i mentioned the film and he automatically discredited it because it was from Matt Walsch and the Daily Wire.

[@cwstreeper]

Perfect illustration of Jordan's point.

[@randomuser6306]

Perfect illustration of ideological indoctrination. Dismiss it because of who made it. No wonder your friend is a 'liberal', who are supposedly open to argumentation and differing opinions, talk about the point and merit instead of straw men. Rather, your friend is a radical and doesn't know it.

[@Dilley_G45]

I have friends like that. Not many. Takes too much effort to try to tell them to wake up

[@theabhorrentchef7226]

Your friend seems closed minded, or so opened minded his brain has fallen out totally - or both which is the most common state of a liberal.

[@FedoraMan316]

I find this really ironic, actually. One of your first videos that I ever watched was the one on cultural Marxism. That video was one of the things that influenced me to start moving away from the left-leaning university culture and more toward the right-leaning counter culture that’s more interested in self-responsibility and Christian orthodoxy. It’s kind of sad how once the right starts getting ahead, though, that we start to self-sabotage. From what I’ve seen from both of your guys’ work this seems like Walsh isn’t looking deep enough into things and is starting petty in-fighting for no good reason. Cooper is basically the Lutheran James Lindsey, for goodness sake.

[@HaydenMussi]

I was thinking of the exact comparison! I don't think Walsh would call out James Lindsey for 'not being on the frontlines,' he just needs to see that he, Lindsey and Dr. Cooper are fighting the same war on different fronts

[@nicford1486]

"Lutheran James Lindsey" lol spot on

[@radjamadgi2267]

Ironically, I think your comment perfectly illustrate Matt's point : James Lindsay is an academic truly fighting the culture battle. He reached notoriety in both mainstream and intellectual circles as he's exposed the humanities fields of today. This guy on the other hand, is complete unknown to the public, as his work only reach a very narrow niche, just like he claimed was the case of M. Walsh . ..

[@poordoubloon10]

As unfortunate as the circumstance is, it's positive to see Dr. Cooper entering the mainstream -- first the Pageau interview, now the Walsh drama... Starting out his career as a controversial figure in Lutheranism (the sanctification debate seems like ancient history now), now in the broader culture... poor guy can't catch a break! Ironic considering how agreeable a person you are.

[@nimanderoftheleaf]

You reiterated exactly what I took from your original video. It annoyed me to see other people jumping on the Walsh bandwagon of misinterpreting your comments.

[@mosonyimartin2214]

Your work is very important Jordan and I’m looking forward to the next part of your Makers Of The Modern World series.

[@randomsockpuppet]

I totally agree with your assessment of the daily wire and how it may put off potential viewers. The people that need to see the film the most are the same ones who will disregard it due to its publisher.

[@simontemplar3359]

From the left, I would say that organizations like the Daily Wire are more interested in trolling than in finding solutions or at least middle ground with everyone else. It's like "my way or the highway" kind of stuff. I'll just use myself as an example - my politics are very left leaning, but my theology is not. I will not close myself off to valid points or ideas that come from people whose opinions I don't share. I suspect that outside of the Book of Concord and some punk rock bands, we don't have many points of agreement, but I respect you as an academic and absolutely as a pastor. Rather than saying "we don't agree on all points, so I'm unsubscribing, etc.," I'd much rather broaden my intellectual horizons and either learn things that make me re-evaluate my own positions, or which will allow me to edify them. I think folks being totally unwilling to listen to anything other than what they already believe just makes the ol' confirmation bias that much stronger. Heck we might eventually wind up with dueling echo chambers where one or both sides abandon truth in general and with all the societal ramifications... oh wait that happened? Well sh*t. Anyway, this rambly mess is to say that you've got at least 1 pretty far left fan out there. Of course I know him. He's me. God bless!

[@LutheranLeftist]

He's got two at least. Socialist caucus of the Jordan Cooper Fan Club?

[@randomuser6306]

The 'middle ground', if indeed is in the middle, has moved so far to the left that our would be left of Obama in 2010. What are you talking about? You want the conservatives, whose positions on anything haven't changed since 1995, to.... Not be conservatives? If you're politics are left leaning, in today's world that means abortion on demand, gay marriage, and being pro-trans in public schools, like the majority of the Democrat party. That's some fairly evil stuff.

[@theabhorrentchef7226]

Where is the middle ground with people who celebrate kilt + ing babies? Or pushing degen sx ideology on kids? Or trying to get rid of borders?

[@bretwalker2295]

I think that the issue is that a liberal-leaning organization would never have put together a documentary such as "What Is a Woman," and unfortunately, a moderate organization would not either, not wishing to upset either side. Ultimately the film had to be made by an organization that is going to rub people the wrong way, such as the Daily Wire; and there are even some evangelicals that bristle at the fact that it was made by Matt Walsh, who is a professed and practicing Roman Catholic, and so they feel they cannot put their support behind the project, even if they agree with its points.

[@TheCASSMAN777]

When Matt Walsh started talking about how people thought he was not smart enough, I don't think he was specifically talking about Dr. Cooper, at that specific moment. It sounds like he was talking about religious leaders in general. During the "cancellation," Walsh was mainly talking about religious leaders in general. Dr. Cooper was more of the segway into that topic.

[@DoubtfireClub]

I'm losing track where is the line? "Anybody to the left of ( ? ) Is woke. ". It just keeps changing

[@BeauDWaln]

Dare to say you've been on the front as long if not longer then him. You're both fighting for the truth. Just need to hash it out. Love your breakdown. Great response

[@AWlpsSHOW36]

What's the truth?

[@matthewlane2363]

Thank you for your work you have been a great blessing to me in my life and my ministry.

[@mrmichaelencke]

To be fair, Matt Walsh's cancelling segments are more satire on the current cancel culture trends on the left, "you should be cancelled because you didn't do what I decided was right in the last five minutes."

[@canUfeelMYface]

then how am is still seeing this video on utube?

[@marlena.]

Not me misreading the title for "Mike Winger cancelled me"😂😅

[@frankblazkiewicz2636]

Good luck. Actual conversation with Matt Walsh and you would be a benefit.

[@jeffdyrud3740]

Similar to when my boys took hunter safety courses. The 10/80/10 rule. You'll have 10 % that hunt or have no problem with hunters, then 10% that are vehemently opposed to hunting, and the remaining 80% are not really thinking about it. Do your best as a hunter to not alienate the 80% without much opinion. Obey the rules, don't hang your bloody deer off the hood of the pickup in view of everybody. Same with The Daily Wire and Matt Walsh. Not everyone's cup of tea, even if I agree with a LOT of their stuff. Walsh looks foolish on this canceling.

[@kendallbyrd9875]

I too am disappointed in how he talked about you. I watch both of y’all and I think you two could have great discussions

[@brentonstanfield5198]

Well done. The problem with Matt Walsh/Daily Wire types is that they are 1/2 culture warrior and 1/2 entertainer. Half of what they do is really great cultural commentary and the other half is designed to keep their rabid fan bases tuning in… it’s a business. It’s that “entertainer” half that makes them problematic. It secures their intended audience (ie red meat conservatives) and alienates others.

[@simplysoothesounds]

I’m sorry Matt canceled you. I just found you today based on this video! I look forward to watching more of your videos and reading your books 😊

[@olitisirabizu581]

It is sad that Matt is taking this on the wrong side

[@anniemouse111]

He’s extremely arrogant and the fact he can’t take opinions from other conservatives shows he’s got a serious pride issue. (Walsh)

[@fabriziobai2941]

@@anniemouse111 Is that what happen? I saw the video of Matt Walsh, he stated that it’s strange to be criticised by someone, who hasn’t done anything relevant in order to stop transitioning kids on the mainstream; Matt Walsh made a clinic stop transitioning kids. Is it a pride issue you said?

[@anniemouse111]

@@fabriziobai2941 it’s a pride issue when he can’t handle any perceived criticism without canceling people. He also likes his little personal digs like someone isn’t allowed to make an observation like “hey you and daily wire making this is only preaching to the choir” every rabid leftist out there won’t even bother watching it because of his personality-which is obnoxious and extremely arrogant. I can’t stand the guy myself just his demeanor and I’m a hardcore right wing bible Christian. I would have watched it if Shapiro or better yet Candace Owens did it but Walsh is a jerk. His Walrus book was good though I admit.

[@kylewilson1022]

The top down point is what I was thinking about when listening to Matt’s response. Reading “The Rise and Truth of the Modern Self” recently helped me to see that these ideas trickled down from academia.

[@theadventurousprogrammer6449]

Would love to see you on Matt Walsh's show. I think your critiques are correct. And Unfortunately..... and I hate to say this, it seems like he can't take criticism very well even when it's well meaning. He took an observation and turned it into something completely different. Thanks for putting this out. If he does invite you please put an update out since I don't watch Matt Walsh all that often.

[@melanieannette3781]

Yes if you came on that would be amazing!

[@ViceAdmiralHoratioNeIson]

Unfortunately Walsh and much (albeit not all) of the DW is more concerned with owning the libs than actual good-faith discussion, so when someone like Dr Cooper comes at Walsh with a critique in good faith, it's seen as nothing more than an attack from the enemy.

[@bencurry6520]

I stopped supporting the DailyWire a few years ago when it seemed to me that they were not behaving much better than the left they criticize. Don’t know if it was a “things this big behave this way” or a “you often become what you spend your life trying to beat”, but I just struggle to listen to much of what they have to say anymore. Honestly pushed me to stay out of politics as much as I can.

[@tookie36]

Politics has become so divisive it’s a headache to watch. In some sense it’s a good thing bc it’s more time to prayer, worship, and focusing elsewhere. But in another sense it’s dangerous bc I think democracy is a good thing and I would like to stay aware of what’s happening

[@madjack730]

You can’t stop The Matt Walsh.

[@GodsgalMN]

Thank you for how you addressed the issue and didn't put down the other person. God bless you sir. Ty. Lori / MN

[@dennischanay7781]

I'm RCC but love your channel my brother. I learn alot from you. Used to be an avid DW listener but not so much any more. Matt needs to pick a fight with someone else.. With friends like that....?? All the best Dr Cooper.

[@ReformedRookie]

Hi Jordan- I watched Matt's video and think that he did misread you. While I was watching him, I was thinking the same way as you explained today. Thanks for clarifying and hopefully he'll get to see this.

[@jongee4336]

I watched it too and Jordan wasn't even hostile 😭 he seemed genuine in his criticism. Many leftists have just immediately dismissed the movie because it was involved with the DW

[@DrEric-kp8tf]

It took about 8-10 minutes of listening to you to become a "fan". I think Matt Walsh is a hero as far as the gender nonsense is concerned and standing up and fighting for children. Unfortunately he can be very intolerant and has a tendency to attack people on his own team or with the same viewpoints for not agreeing with him or his beliefs 100%. I think it is really sad that we are at this point and ANYONE had to make a movie called what is a woman. It is great that Walsh and the daily wire made the movie all things considered but you are correct in saying that if someone less ideological or more independent made the movie, more people would watch it. We are in a war right now and we need to stop attacking each other for the little things because we are going to need all hands on deck. We need to win this war for the sake of all humanity and it extends far beyond the gender issue and what they are doing to children. The only way we win is together. So when he says you need to be on the front lines, no that is not correct. We need to everyone to push back and fight in whatever capacity they are able to and that is not always going to manifest itself in the same way because everyone is different and we all have different strengths and weaknesses. It drives me nuts that people cannot come together regardless of our beliefs and differences and win this war we are in when we all essentially agree on the core issues. How many times does it have to be said until people get it, united we stand, divided we fall. I hope Walsh has you on his show....

[@garrisonwilloughby2509]

As a fan of both of yours I hope he finds this video and has you on his show. I think that would be a beneficial conversation that would help reach people in both of your areas. It sucks that he misunderstood your point but hopefully he will have you on so that you can have a long form discussion that is more productive than taking jabs at each other out of context. Appreciate everything you do!!

[@neoneaglespirit97]

Thanks for your clarity on your position, Jordan Cooper. I'm subscribed to both you and Matt Walsh's channel because I like both contents for different reasons. I tend to favor more Matt Walsh's assertive and confrontational approach along with his dry humor and stoic personality and sticking a pin into the many sacred cows on the left that what appears many do not want to touch and/or caving in to these ideologies, including churches. He takes the risk of being abrasive at the expense hoping that he will at least save some from driving off the cliff. That being said, whilst I do share a lot of sediment of Matt Walsh not seeing enough engagement from theologians and too many critique from a distance with little to no involvement, I recognize there is a time and a place where a diplomatic approach and in house discussions is necessary and not every instance the boot straps approach is the most effective communicative utilization to employ. There does seem to be a bit misunderstanding on Matt Walsh's part though on where you're coming from and how you are posturing yourself when giving your comments about his documentary. Hopefully a real time exchange instead of video response exchange between the two will help with not talking passed each other.

[@wonderingpilgrim]

It absolutely starts from the top down, and we need people like you who are willing to do the hard work of digging deep for the sake of being as accurate as possible. I've watched/listened to many hours of your work on what lutherans believe and they have really helped and challenged me in my understanding of historic Christianity. I also watched and agreed with your critique on Matt Walsh's video some time ago, and immediately felt like undeserved backlash was on its way. How sad that a guy who complains about a reactionary cancel culture which thrives on out-of-context quotes, has given in to the same kind of behavior. I think it only further validates your expressed concerns about the source of such a hot topic video. I do hope and pray you can reconcile this with Matt and move forward. Blessings to you and your family, Dr. Cooper. Thank you for all you do!

[@ggbrady]

Its both depressing and refreshing how you bring up ivy league professors with concerns who feel like they need to be in the closet. My wife is a Dr. of psychology. She too is in that similar issue. However, she's been active in promoting bipartisan articles for journals just trying to get rid of politics in her field. It's been a major roller-coaster. Which is why it's refreshing to hear there are others.

[@MrDaveKC]

I thought you were 100% clear in what you said, and why you said it. And I agree, it would be great if it came from a source other than the Daily Wire, because it's such a pajorative site. Good for you on what you said. The biggest thing I have with Matt Walsh is that he's something of a shock jock of the political right. What is a woman really is a good video in a lot of ways and many of his questions really do point out huge problems in his interviews. I think it would be great to have him actually have that be an invitation and actually genuinely interview/discuss with you. Here's hoping that happens.

[@grayduck8020]

The irony I see here is that Matt Walsh is criticizing "ineffectual Christian leaders" for preaching to the choir rather than making plays at the middle of the board to push the culture wars. That's literally the criticism Dr Cooper had of the movie-- that affiliating it with a strongly neo-con organization means it'll only be taken seriously by boomer Republicans who agree with it anyway. The people who might actually have their minds changed won't see it because of the association-- the very definition of just making yourself look smart to your friends (as is the "conservative" way).

[@pete3397]

There's also the casual dismissal of caring for the flock. Sometimes you need to preach to the choir. Otherwise, they can have a tendency to go all wobbly and aren't able to actually defend the faith in the public square. When people are bombarded with the constant messages about transgenderism et al, having the pastorate speak the truth is just as much part of the "culture wars" as making a documentary.

[@tammywilliams-ankcorn9533]

So sad when Christians divide us! Your videos are always thoughtful and polite.

[@killingtime9283]

I think it's wrong saying that you aren't on the "front lines". If you stick with war as an analogy, wars are fought on multiple fronts. In political movements you often hear the sentiment "those who don't join my movement isn't doing anything for "the cause"". And "If we all just voted for this party/candidate we'd make a bigger impact". And it's so tiring. Each and everyone of us can, within our own calling in life, witness to the truth.

[@CJ2345ish]

I put it this way: there are people in actual war who fight and those who make weapons. People in academics often make the ideological weapons used in tomorrow's war. Matt Walsh is also very ideologically minded even if he doesn't admit it. He's a commentator and a podcast host/youtuber, he's not actually writing policy and the reason his stuff does affect policy has more to do with the fact JBC is 1-2% the size of Matt Walsh. When you have 2m people that follow you, your ideas can speak more influence to policy.

[@killingtime9283]

@@CJ2345ish makes sense.

[@jfitz6517]

Very mature response & thoughts. Love your work Dr. Cooper! Keep it up!

[@billbadson7598]

While I do understand the reasoning of wishing the movie had been produced by less overtly political/partisan actors, for exactly the reasons you describe, the flip side of the coin is that less overtly political actors DIDN’T produce the film specifically because they lacked the political motivations to do so. That is, radical gender progressivism is already the mainstream at the upper echelons of society, and moderates will not take any great steps to act against it because they are already completely awash in it in every facet of their life, between their work, corporate media and advertisements, and their children’s schools. The movie being produced by combative right wing partisans will definitely turn some people off and prevent them from even giving it a chance, but the alternative is the movie not being made at all and NOBODY watching it. Only those with strong oppositional views to the current paradigm, AND with enough motivation to go ahead with the project despite knowing how it (and they) will be attacked, would ever even make the movie to begin with. The Daily Wire made the movie because nobody else would. Now that the conversation has been brought into the light of day, more soft-spoken people might have some elbow room to make less confrontational critiques of mass child castration.

[@Dingusly]

It came as a bit of shock when I looked away from the Matt Walsh video where he responded to you and I saw you speaking. I really appreciate your work as you've helped me to understand the Lutheran view of scripture and the gospel, as I started in a reformed OPC church. I do think Walsh says and does many things for shock value, however I agreed with him on some level that I don't see pastors out in the world taking on radical gender ideologues and that bothers me. I'm very happy to see you respond to his response and I believe as well as hope that Matt gave a sincere invitation. It would be awesome to see you two sit down and discuss the topic, as well as others effecting our culture and world as a whole. God Bless you J. Coop

[@ericb8217]

Your work has been a great blessing in my work as a teacher in the church and school.

[@jazzstandardman]

Jordan, this made me think of another related topic, if you're interested in addressing. Matt Walsh has been saying for some time that we should not apologize when called out for some "offensive" statement we make. Do you believe this is good advice? How do we decide which way to go with that?

[@xp5126]

If I’m understanding you correctly, you argue that change really comes from the academia, but this flies in the face of the experience of early Christianity. It wasn’t only those who wrote against the pagan ideas, like the apologists, but those who suffered and died for Christ. Also, given the current hostility toward Christianity in the academy, it would seem difficult if not impossible to be in the academy when those holding orthodox views are excluded.

[@starch-89]

Pastor Cooper, you're a blessing within this crazy culture we're living through right now and your work certainty does make a difference; certainly does change lives. I pray to the Lord that more people may announce the Gospel with such intelligence mingled with such humility and serenity in this world of extremes. May God bless your ministry.

[@Gjaimes586]

It is a pity that Dr Cooper published this video, trying to come to terms with the Dayly Wire. He should have taken the cancellation as a badge of honor. Dayly wire and individuals like Cadence Owens represents the worst in the conservative movement. I just can’t bear it. Count me out

[@DrJordanBCooper]

Who said anything about Candace Owens?

[@bpete48]

Great response. I don’t think this is a necessarily winner-loser conversation. The different body parts shouldn’t despise the other body parts. And I think both Matt Walsh’s cancellation and this response express a desire to not be despised for their role in the work.

[@chapagawa]

Matt Walsh is a media focused guy, so it seems his span of attention is too short to really delve deeply into certain topics. He picked up the megaphone to protest against the seemingly avalanche of distorted values that are being forced onto society, including our children, and so I respect him for that. However, I think he missed the mark on your critic which hopefully he will revisit at some point.

[@jjwwqq]

This makes me think of that old MTV claymation show “Celebrity Deathmatch”. It’ll be interesting to find out who the rightful victor is…

[@nilsalmgren4492]

Some people are not going to watch a conservative movie just as some people are not going to read certain parts of the Bible. Why worry about groups of people who reject truth? Jesus called them the dead then totally ignored them. Dust yourself off and walk away.

[@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns]

I would cancel Walsh for the excessive quantity of ads.

[@PolishBigfootCircle11]

Maybe this was said in jest?

[@jimluebke3869]

Jordan, what this means is that YOU have to step up and be the one to present these ideas, with the demeanor that you believe would be most persuasive. The worst mistake that Conservatives have been making, is we've allowed radicals to silence the truth because we're "not being nice".

[@graydomn]

Bill Buckley once aptly observed that he would rather be governed by the first 500 names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard University.

[@b.alexanderjohnstone9774]

You make it sound like we have a choice of DW doing it or CNN or whoever ivy league professors like. It's DW or nothing, as you admit when you say other people won't speak out. It'd be great if there were more people with the moral courage to do it but in the meantime we need anyone we can get.

[@mikeduke8932]

Under all dramatic rhetoric there is always a silent majority actually working to solve the issue rationally. Unfortunately, Matt will never know them.

[@AmillennialMillenial]

What is the front line work of not engaging and making content? Isn’t Matt Walsh’s work fundamentally talking?

[@VTPSTTU]

One of the things that I've learned over the past roughly eight years is how much difference there is in two kinds of speaking. One kind of speaking is speaking to communicate information. This can be talking about principles, data, history, and a wide range of similar information. Another kind of speaking is speaking to communicate feelings. Often, this is communication by hyperbole and other forms of speech that aren't technically true. When Trump came down the escalator and said that all illegal immigrants are rapists, he was communicating feelings, not information. The notion that all illegal immigrants are rapists is just stupid. In that speech, Trump even hedged by saying "rapists and bad dudes" and then saying "some of them are okay." Even so, the statements were just silly to anyone who expected a presidential candidate primarily to communicate information. Our nation was born in the Age of Reason. Our Founding Fathers understood that people are moved by passions, but they also realized that protecting people's rights requires a citizenry to govern their passions to some extent. They knew that some politicians would play on people's feelings rather that reason, but they tried to create a system that would minimize the impact of that kind of politician. Those of us who have wanted to maintain our nation's founding principles have leaned towards politicians who seemed to appeal to our thoughts more than our feelings. That meant that we wanted our candidates to communicate information in their speeches. Those of us in the Republican Party were particularly drawn more to candidates who appealed to our reason by speaking to communicate information. Our problem is that a long line of Republican politicians have spoken very clearly about what policies the country needs, but they refuse to understand that many Democrats are not acting in good faith. They may have personal friendships with their colleagues across the aisle, but their colleagues across the aisle are engaged in destruction of our nation and our society and don't let those friendships interfere with pushing their leftist agenda. As a result, all of these rational, principled, good faith Republicans have failed to accomplish what voters want them to accomplish. I don't think Trump really meant that all of the illegal immigrants were rapists, but by making that statement, he was communicating the feelings of millions of voters who want the illegal immigration problem stopped and reversed. He was sending the signal that he was willing to do whatever was necessary to fight the fight against the left on immigration and other issues. He was saying that he understood the passion and determination that many voters have for fixing this problem. For a long time, many conservative media personalities have understood the value of speaking to communicate feelings as much as or more than speaking to communicate information. Rush Limbaugh communicated some good information, but Rush Limbaugh succeeded because he captured the feelings of many in his audience. By communicating a similar passion, he kept an audience. Matt Walsh is another of that kind of conservative media personality. He has learned that feelings are more important than accuracy. He has learned that the ad hominem attack stirs his fans' feelings much more than accurate information does. I don't think Matt Walsh knows or cares what you have done or what point you were trying to make. You said something that could be construed as slightly negative towards Matt Walsh, and that gave him a chance to launch another ad hominem. Many people, even many so-called conservatives, don't want to think about issues and the important details of those issues. Instead, they just want to see everything framed as "Team Matt Walsh" versus "Team Jordan Cooper." These are not all bad people. These are not all stupid people. They are people who don't want to have to think on their own. If they can have everything delivered to them at an "our team versus their team" level, they are happiest because they don't have to think carefully. Matt Walsh knows how to deliver to them the "fast food" version of serious issue discussion. I find the whole thing frustrating, but no one cares what I think.

[@clayw70]

Very gracious response Dr. Cooper! I fully understand your point that the film could have had a greater impact if it was done by a non-political organization. That's a reasoned conclusion to draw as the issue is not a political one. Honestly, I wish Matt Walsh would have thought about your point more before doing that video.

[@paulblase3955]

Reading the enemy sources is good but doesn’t accomplish anything unless you (and others) teach people why they are wrong.

[@GR-dk5ju]

You’re doing good work, brother. There’s a variety of work to be done in the Body of Christ, and we ought not rebuke or discourage one another for having a different purpose therein. I commend you for sticking up for the value of what you do. I, personally, have been blessed by your work; it’s hard to find men who bring such high Protestant theology to such an accessible but not dumbed-down level. Thank you, Dr. Cooper. May God bless you with all grace and peace in our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@JW_______]

It was most likely your connection to the Ivy League that made Matt Walsh feel comfortable in prejudging you, which he shouldn't have done. The conservative and traditional movements - defenders of Western civilization if you will - needs intellectuals as much as it needs bold, popular level figures. I hope he reached out to you or amended his words in some way.

[@jakobi4971]

Imagine having several hundred thousand subscribers and one of the biggest platforms in the country and choosing to attack a small-to-medium Lutheran theologian for having a review of your movie that was less than perfect Seriously, I love Matt Walsh generally, but it really peeves me off that he cancelled you

[@danielvasquez8117]

@1:48 an orb or ...just plain dust in the sunlight?

[@VandeVisscher]

I very rarely comment, I don’t even watch your channel and I didn’t see your whole commentary video on the film neither but I want to say that from the clips (from your video) in the video Matt Walsh made about your cancelation, its pretty clear what your message is. I don’t understand how Matt Walsh didn’t get this from your message. Why is he talking about about you not liking them? Thats not even the point made. Your message was very clear Dr. Cooper. And I actually agree with your commentary.

[@oracleoftroy]

Walsh's "cancellation" was rather mild, but he made an important point. In this post, I have specifically in mind people in my own tradition (Reformed), and not Cooper particularly or Lutheranism generally except where similar issues might tangentially apply. The issue plagues the entire church, but I am especially frustrated that Reformed Christians ought to know better, but too often fail. I'm growing increasingly frustrated with Christians that are bold for standing up for Christian truth where the world has not challenged it in 100+ years, yet on every issue where the current battle rages, they stand silent or even encourage retreat on those issues. To bring the gospel to bear is to "engage the culture war" or take a stand on whatever pejoratives or buzzwords are currently being tossed around: "Christian Nationalist", "Racist", "Homophobic", "Misogynist", etc, etc, and somehow being on the wrong side of the reprobate is treated as a bad thing. They might as well apostatize for the hate and disservice they are showing the Church. Matt Walsh or DW might not be the "perfect" person to have fighting this fight for Christians, but he is fighting where other supposed "Christians" are not. We should be shamed and take it as a personal challenge to not be outdone. We should stop worrying about what the reprobate might think of us for disagreeing with them and worry about what God will say if we stand before him and confess that we refused to defend his Word in the battles he placed us in. It just strikes me as outright hatred for Christ and his church to sit on the sidelines and watch all this play out. I have more respect for those who fight on the wrong side of these issues than those who refuse to fight at all.

[@michaelhartwig9867]

As a Daily Wire Member and a fan of Dr. Cooper I thought your criticism of What is a Woman was valid. Additionally, the documentary does not include members of the trans community like Blair White and Buck Angel who have been very vocal in their opposition to gender-transitioning for children. These valuable allies in the fight against transitioning children were excluded, which hurts the credibility of the documentary. I really enjoyed the documentary but it had its faults. I do hope that the Daily Wire does bring you on. They are expanding their intellectual reach with Jordan Peterson and I think you would fit into that aspect of their platform. I think you should also talk to Andrew Klavan. He is their primary expert on culture, he recently became an Anglican and has a love for liturgy that sounds very Lutheran. I pray this momentary butting of heads leads to a fruitful and productive partnership.

[@kwt7667g]

Klavan does sound very Lutheran in some of his explainations.

[@DesmondBold]

It is so sad that Matt did this. Shame on him.

[@nursingninja]

How I understood your original video was that his point wouldn't have as much of the impact it deserves due to the partisan nature of the platform.

[@dabhidhm4093]

The point is, if you say that the film would be more effective if made by someone else, this is a direct, nearly ad hominem attack on Matt Walsh and the Daily Wire, whether you meant it that way or not. The movie and its message and argumentation either stands up or it does not. If it communicates a cogent message accurately and fairly, its credibility cannot be reasonably controverted just because Matt Walsh made it. A person who simply will not view the film because Matt Walsh made it had demonstrated a fundamental resistance to reason and likely would not be prevailed upon to view the film no matter who made it. Plus, it is necessary to understand that it is usually the confronting, perhaps abrasive people who tackle such issues with such directness and clarity. The winsome will not go near them because it is the very avoidance of these issues that preserves the image of winsomeness. Anyone who made this movie, and anyone who subsequently makes any similar movie, will be shouted at, berated and attacked just as Matt Walsh and Daily Wire have been. It's fantasy to believe that another kind of personality could have taken on this issue in a way more persuasive to those who really need to hear it. In any such case, there are those who will refuse to hear the critical perspective; those who will hear, but only with an ear to attacking the critique, usually with faulty reasoning and misrepresentation; and a few whose minds may be changed. We can only fight to grab the attention of the few who will be persuaded. We can do no other.

[@MelissaKarrmann]

In that group that's just watching this now. Did Matt Walsh ever take you up on your offer? I can see both sides to this one. Great job with your response.

[@DrJordanBCooper]

Thanks! No, he did not.

[@robertotapia8086]

Paz y Bien I'm Catholic and I've learned a lot with the help of your work and teachings. My humble opinion is Matt should invite you on his show and talk about it. Robert from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷

[@Subdood04]

Who is Matt Walsh? Seriously, I have no idea, and is he really relevant? You do you Dr. Cooper!

[@melanieb2132]

Yes.. you will know him soon. He's actually becoming prominent personality. He's very edgy and is kind of a bull in a China shop.

[@joshuaorourke1976]

Yes Walsh is very relevant.

[@markhuff9027]

I think Matt just proved your overall point about American narcissism.

[@brianholland5447]

The dividing lines are clear. Just because someone happens to be a liberal, or just doesn't like Walsh or his approach doesn't in any way invalidate the message. I happen to like it and would remind you that this is a fight that conservatives and sane people in general didn't start just like just about every other culture war issue. Regardless of what anyone thinks about Walsh, it's long past time to stand up and fight against the spirit of the age. If people don't like the fact that this breaks down on a right/left cultural and political divide then so be it. Truth is truth. Truth is inescapable, and it's also worth defending!

[@rogerbrunk]

This criticism reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt's speech, "The man in the arena". As a conservative evangelical I believe that those most involved (slugging it out, if you will) and invested in the public arena against the moral corruption in our culture are (unfortunately) non evangelicals, secular or otherwise. I wonder why that is? The prophets, the apostles and their great exemplar, Christ himself, were bold, clear and emphatic, as well as aggressive, with God's truth. There is a time and place for being sensitive and winsome in our approach to changing hearts and minds, although I often wonder if we default too quickly to that "soft approach. If so, that makes a caricature out of the aforesaid messengers "whole message". Notice Paul's letter to the believers in Rome in the very first chapter, it wasn't very inviting and winning... but it was stark truth. My point is that those who critique the man in the cultural arena (and I believe Matt is one of those persons) even if that man is irreligious or unorthodox in his understanding of God's Law, at least he is engaged in the battle for truth. The Christian's first responsibility is to vindicate God's truth to his generation. If we fail or refuse to speak the truth, then we fail to speak the truth in love (we seem to put the accent on love when engaging our God hating culture "eyeball to eyeball"). It's not being political, or even "left vs right" to engage in the life or death struggle with evil (evil as defined by God himself). It seems that many social and political conservatives understand that better than our Christian leaders in our contemporary churches? Should Matt have canceled you? You and he clearly have different approaches. I don't believe that is the right question to consider. The question is...whose approach is most like Christ's, the Apostles and the Prophets? We have the record of theirs in the canon?

[@kwt7667g]

I do hope you two do have lunch sometime. It would be awesome to have a 2x beard podcast! Join forces!

[@Cjinglaterra]

It would appear that some Matt Walsh fanboys haven’t actually paid attention to anything that’s been said, either in this video or in Dr Cooper’s original critique.

[@Boxxxxxxxxx]

The introduction and preservation of these cultural issues begin in Academia. Academics formulate many of these ideas that permeate culture. If people spent more time in depth, understanding how these issues were formed and what they really encompass, there would be more effective reach. Not all should be frontline, just as the body does, we all have different roles and degrees of visibility in these battles. However, your work and knowledge are needed, I would like to see you on his show.

[@mysticmouse7261]

Speaking for myself, though your presentations are well thought out, you are so careful not to make overstatements that leave out anything, they become unclear. You should follow Luther and make your statements bolder and more direct..