Don't forget...Lucifer was banished to Hell specifically so that he would only ever see the worst of Mankind. He was depressed and obsessive and alone. It is completely understandable that he was completely against Charlie trying to help them. He needed rescuing as much as any other demon down there.
@anniefemmas50975 ай бұрын
I find it so funny how Charlie is willing to work with criminals and murderers as if they were children, but with his father he is a thousand times tougher. I mean, I understand your feelings, but it's really funny to me. How, someone who didn't do anything really bad treats him super hard but people who tell him that his dream is garbage and that they are sadistic murderers He treats them with sweetness and affection.
@Vercanya5 ай бұрын
@@anniefemmas5097 "He"?
@MattTOB6185 ай бұрын
@@anniefemmas5097 Okay, _once_ is a typo, but how'd you manage to misgender Charlie FIVE times??
@purpleirken15295 ай бұрын
@@anniefemmas5097 Yeah, I get what you mean. Luci is in no position, mentally or otherwise, to help people. And Charlie should have been "somewhat" more understanding, especially knowing about how he fell 👀
@aquatus15 ай бұрын
@@purpleirken1529 I speak from experience in saying that you can love your father, and completely understand what happened to him and why he is how he is, and yet still bear a certain...not animosity, not anger, just...disappointment? A grudge because you are trying to do something, and yet you still have a self-imposed obligation to take care of someone who was supposed to take care of you.
@rcsecolored5 ай бұрын
“what in the depression or midlife crisis is going on here” lmao called him out
@miafiolekova58175 ай бұрын
Lucifer was not abusive to Charlie, he actualy removed himself from her life because of depression. In that state you believe you are a burden to everyone, that every one will be better off without you. Georgia Dow has a great analysis of Lucifer from a psychological standpoint.
@cstaie855 ай бұрын
Yes... as someone who has and still does suffer from severe depression. I know this feeling exactly and can 100% agree with your analysis and Geprgia Dow. The hard part for someone suffering from depression is to recognize the dissociation and detachment forming and realize the ones you are pushing away want and need you. I feel this a lot myself. And it is hard and sucks to try to bring yourself back into the life of those you push away. I've lost a lot close friends because of my own selfish wallowing. People won't stick around forever when you day by day push them away.
@JamesP75 ай бұрын
@@falsnamae3511People like you are why terms like abuse are being watered down.
@marmyeater5 ай бұрын
No, Lilith removed Charlie from his life to keep him depressed.
@Zikkar5 ай бұрын
He was not abusive at all get out of her with that crap
@nobinary22965 ай бұрын
@@JamesP7No they are just being 1 dimensional in their analysis while ALSO being correct. His depression may have caused him to neglect Charlie and only reach out when necessary or when he just wants to hear her voice. As Charlie said, "He only calls when he needs something or is bored." You could see it in her body language asking Vaggie and the others for support, even facially, and if you paid attention to when she was on the phone with him her vocal responses were uncomfortable, desperate for attention, and accusatory. In the her part of reconciling with her Father she literally said, "When I was young. I didn't really know you at all." All she knew is he was a big dreamer and that taught her that dreams are worth fighting for. It was also implied that the Mother was seperating them. As she took them away when they were bonding and nothing bad was happening. So I think Charlie's Mom had custody. Considering she seemed closer to her Mother any time she spoke about her it was fondly. As opposed to her Father who neglected her "since her parents split". So yes. It is a form of ab×se. Neglect is extremely harmful and damaging to your children. Hell even ab×sive partners do it. Its used in manipulation tactics abd wearing down their resolve to speak up for themselves. When parents do it it can lead to their children seeking that comfort or roll in anyone. As we could see with the Hazbin Hotel. She is REALLY codependent and basically falls apart and goes overboard with any mistakes she makes or when someone breaks her trust. That's why Alastor is there. To manipulate and get Charlie on his side so he can break the deal binding his soul. BUT I don't think he expected to care about her as much as he does. We could see it with Mimzy, since Charlie wasn't around to see him there was no reason to pretend, and he stood up to a friend like Mimzy who he really cared about. We see it again when, despite being there to manipulate her into a deal, he gives her advice about smiling to hide what's going on in your mind. That was a look into HIS world. He introduced her to Rosie and allowed her to HOLD HIS MICROPHONE. That mic is his source of power apparently and he just let Charlie hold it?? Even for a manipulation he didn't need to allow her to hold something so vital to him. Then he admitted she was "full of potential he could guide" and Rosie agreed as long as "you stick with her you'll be on the winning side". Both in it for themselves but willing to risk a lot to be by her side. I mean Rosie put her whole colony at risk and even counseled her when she had relationship issues. There was also the moment on the balcony with Alastor and Nifty. No one was listening and Alastor was looking upon the group fondly while admitting "one could grow accustomed to this". Because I like to point out a parallel in how his disappearance was treated by his fellow Overlord vs everyone at Hazbin Hotel. "I know~ I have been missing for quite some time. I am sure you have all been wondering." Followed by Carmilla's dismissive, "Not really." You could see his face screw up. Then when he was barely missing for a day at most from the Hazbin Hotel after the battle they all jumped on him with a hug when he popped up. He even said mockingly in his final monologue, "Alastor altruist died for his >friends< ? Sorry to disappoint! That is not where this ends!" He admitted when no one was around that he sees them as friends. He could've said anything else. But he is also "hungry for freedom like never before". Implying he is still going to do whatever it takes and cross whomever he needs to in order to gain his freedom. People can still be bad, do bad things to you, and still have some twisted version of care for you. Its why family issues are so complicated. Which is why it's not great to dismiss the effect of Lucifer's neglect on Charlie. If he had been more present and trained her against these things? She wouldn't have been so easy for Alastor to manuever. It really was the perfect set of circumstances.
@sixpetals5 ай бұрын
Luciffer bragging about being right while the hotel is being destroyed really shows why he's in charge of the pride ring of hell.
@anniefemmas50975 ай бұрын
I mean, he's the king of pride.
@belovedgamer57925 ай бұрын
I didn't even think about that
@JikiJikaz6665 ай бұрын
Well, lucifer's part in hell's greatest dad was all about on how amazing he is, meanwhile, alastor's part was about his bond with Charlie
@marmyeater5 ай бұрын
@@JikiJikaz666Bond? He's just manipulating her.
@Zikkar5 ай бұрын
@@JikiJikaz666I think bond is a strong word for what Alastor is after. He was only doing that because it was the only way he could mess with Lucifer. He knows he is not where close to as powerful as Lucifer so his issues with Charlie is all he could attack.
@michaelinthebathroom75605 ай бұрын
"Take that, depression!" Was the moment so many people fell in love with Lucifer as a character. For me personally it was the "Heyyyy bitch!" After making verbal scripts for how to talk to Charlie. So relatable for me. 38:48 of course he has a heavenly voice, his VA is Jeremy Jordan and he's a fallen angel. 😅
@anniefemmas50975 ай бұрын
For me? "The magic-tastic bad flat-flit-rubber duck that spind fire!"
@Darasilverdragon5 ай бұрын
Not just a fallen angel - a fallen *seraphim*. The entire sole point of the existence of the seraphim was to fly around god singing his praises 24/7/365 - singing was literally the only thing they ever did so Lucifer (and by extension, Charlie-) has incredible justification for being a theater kid
@michaelinthebathroom75605 ай бұрын
@@Darasilverdragon I thought he was an archangel though? Higher than a seraphim? You're totally right though.
@scorpioneldar5 ай бұрын
@@michaelinthebathroom7560 its complicated but he was both. as was Michel.
@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od5 ай бұрын
I think Heyyyy Bitch is the best line in the entire show
@grantpflum68445 ай бұрын
Fun fact, Lucifer isn't drooling when he looks at Charlie. You can tell from the gold color and from the scene just before it that when he got angry at Alastor he actually bit his lip hard enough to draw blood. Since Lucifer is a fallen angel, not a demon, he still has golden blood like all the other angels. The guy is smiling and dancing trying to get his daughter to look at him instead of Alastor while he is bleeding from the mouth and grinning like a shark!
@p3chv0gel224 ай бұрын
I've watched this episode Like 20 times And i never even noticed that before
@firelight3806Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's Ichor.
@aceofspace145 ай бұрын
I always got the feeling that Lilith was very “your father is busy don’t bother him.” Etc to young Charlie and that, that very much shaped how Charlie sees her father and their relationship.
@icemagiciangh5 ай бұрын
Now he can finally see ‘Hell’s Greatest Dad’ and understand the context of the situation. Lucifer, a depressed dad, is trying to reach out, then an Overlord pops in to stab one of Lucifer’s few weakness- his insecurities as a father. Al knew there is no way he would win in a fight, so he went straight for mental warfare.
@chelliespider5 ай бұрын
Alastor is also known to have a real hatred of abusive fathers. While Lucifer understandably had been dealing with his own depression and wasn't necessarily abusive, he was neglectful. I could see that triggering Alastor, regardless of if he has feelings for Charlie or not.
@aranthur5 ай бұрын
Husk is incredibly insecure about his appearance. He hates that his form in hell is that of a cute fuzzy animal. This is not the first time in the series he's gotten pissed off when it was used to tease or insult him. He knows better than anyone not to anger Alastor, but he was too angry to think clearly in that moment
@rollingthunder10435 ай бұрын
"Call me Whiskers again and I'll jam that bottle down your throat!"
@marithflugelhorn73525 ай бұрын
I think Alastor is also very chill most of the time by Overlord standards, which lulled him into a false sense of security. Husk knew it was safe to voice his opinions and even disagree with his owner in a way Valentino would never tolerate. But Alastor can't stand the idea of anyone knowing about his own "leash" or the idea that he and Husk are fundamentally in the same situation. That obviously hit a nerve in a major way.
@Z-one10005 ай бұрын
Alastor was a New Orleans radio host who not only was a cannibalistic serial killer, but also supposedly dabbled in voodoo magic. That's probably why he was so powerful when he arrived in Hell.
@icemagiciangh5 ай бұрын
It’s a strange thing to wish your father was more like Lucifer in an adult cartoon musical, but here I am…
@brianneruiz-mccarty98905 ай бұрын
Same.
@RisaPlays4 ай бұрын
Hard same! Mine is basically a mix of Adam and Sera. I love Lucy so much
@kenziegarbiel16922 ай бұрын
Bro same here
@thebeardedbrony95865 ай бұрын
12:57 Razzle and Dazzle were stuffed animals Lucifer brought to life as playmates/guardians for Charlie. They were in the pilot, with one playing the piano, and both back-up singers for Charlie's song at the news station.
@sophykitten22125 ай бұрын
Stuffed animals? I thought they were goat minions
@professorbutters5 ай бұрын
@@sophykitten2212they started as stuffed animals.
@SashaDisAster5 ай бұрын
@@professorbutters i thought they were hellborn beings like Charlie. Where do y'all get these kinds of background informations? I just recently got into the fandom and would really like to know.
@jacksmith-vs4ct5 ай бұрын
@@SashaDisAster years of comics and other stuff from the creator
@SashaDisAster5 ай бұрын
@@jacksmith-vs4ct there's comics too? Can we read them somewhere, still?
@marlainasammons82415 ай бұрын
Mimzy is a nod to the og people who watched the pilot years ago. She was supposed to be a main character but didn't make the cut. Therefore her singing "took a while but I'm present at last"
@FireheadLazzo5 ай бұрын
Kind of a shame that they demoted her to the least impactful character in the season. I guess it's fine if she's here as fanservice, but I was genuinely confused why she existed at all. Maybe she'll come back and actually do something next season.
@marlainasammons82415 ай бұрын
@@FireheadLazzo I hope so! She really could be a cool character
@miscellaneoushermit50255 ай бұрын
Getting your soul taken is definitely worse than being a pet, but then being called a pet on top of it? Just insult to injury, man
@neffariouspanda5 ай бұрын
Something I saw someone point out, was in Ep 1 where Lute mentions to Charlie that she was only safe because Lucifer made a deal with the angels to spare the Hellborn and to only attack Sinners. So I'm assuming that the deal is that Lucifer won't interfere with extermination as long as the angels don't touch the hellborn i.e. Charlie.
@despising_tories73575 ай бұрын
Do you think the rest of the overlords agree, because Carmilla seems to want to protect her daughters too?
@neffariouspanda5 ай бұрын
@despising_tories7357 The Overlords are all Sinners that rose to power. So they wouldn't be included in the deal regardless. But I imagine if given the option, then yeah Carmilla might take that deal to protect her daughters.
@DoctorSherbet5 ай бұрын
To answer your question about dads and rubber ducks. In the Harry Potter movies Arthur Weasley who upon seeing Harry for first time asks him "what is the function of a rubber duck?" He could have asked him the function for anything literally in the world but it was a rubber duck. So maybe it's just a middle aged dad thing
@professorbutters5 ай бұрын
I had heard that Vivziepop was talking to someone and said that she wanted Lucifer to be making something, and they said, “how about rubber ducks?” and she liked the idea. It doesn’t seem to have any extra symbolic meaning,
@FireheadLazzo5 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about Lucifer is that SO many people try to explain the duck thing by going to comment sections and saying "Fun Fact: The deal with Lucifer and rubber ducks is _____" and then they just make up something that makes sense to them.
@DoctorSherbet5 ай бұрын
@@FireheadLazzo ok Mr Sarcastic no need to rub it in on us
@Astrocritical5 ай бұрын
Lucifer is obsessed with ducks because he views angels as swans and himself as an ugly duckling. The scene where they sing together at the end is a circus tent because hes a ring master. I love that detail. Alastor indirectly is the cause of Charlie's success. Instagating Lucifer resulted in them repairing their relationship. I dont know if he did it on purpose but i did notice him smiling a lot less sinisterly when re-entering the room during their song. It made me question his motivations a lot.
@alexy_085 ай бұрын
omg i never saw it as viewing himself as an ugly duckling KFJDKSJSK i feel so sad about that but thats such a good detail
@FireheadLazzo5 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about Lucifer is that SO many people try to explain the duck thing by saying "Fun Fact: The deal with Lucifer and rubber ducks is _____" and then they just make up something that makes sense to them. On the one hand, I like the flair and interpretation, but on the other, the opinion is always presented as fact.
@aboyle5245 ай бұрын
YES!!!! There’s also a music video called “just look my way” that you need to react to as well BUT make sure you react to it AFTER you watch what’s currently out. You need full context to FULLY appreciate it. It was made by a fan named paranoid dj 2 years ago and the creator of helluva boss reached out to them to actually make it canon!! It’s freaking AMAZING!!!!
@thebeardedbrony95865 ай бұрын
The same is true for the song "addict"!
@trinscott5 ай бұрын
I’ve probably listened to just look my way at least 30 times this week😭
@roosterredgaming61475 ай бұрын
I agree...the songs Stolas sings are just plain beautiful.
@professorbutters5 ай бұрын
@@roosterredgaming6147I agree with every single word of that. His songs, and his voice, are amazing.
@cielsteam5 ай бұрын
I actually preferred reactions that didn’t have the full context of what was going on. They were a lot more fun to watch, and I like the idea that they could watch it the second time around with the context and then compare their initial reaction to the second reaction.
@roosterredgaming61475 ай бұрын
YESSSSSSS Please watch Helluva Boss! It's another great show and I see you liking the banter and songs. Alex Brightman who plays Sir Pentious and Adam plays Fizz in Helluva Boss and Breandon Rogers, who plays Katie Killjoy plays Blitzo in Helluva Boss, so I know you'll enjoy.
@RDehuvyne5 ай бұрын
Also since it's not owned by Amazon they usually don't copyright strike reactions to helluva boss from what I have seen.
@roosterredgaming61475 ай бұрын
Exactly. Not as strict with it. I also don't know how I didn't know the voice of Vaggie is also the voice of Mirabel from Encanto.
@Stardust4205 ай бұрын
I would honestly think you’d like helluva boss, it’s right up your alley
@MisterPunch195 ай бұрын
Helluva Boss is great, you will definitely love it, and bonus it really flushes out the world of Hell outside Pentagram City and the Pride Ring
@Darasilverdragon5 ай бұрын
the CRAZY thing is that you can hear 'More Than Anything' as a background leitmotif in earlier episodes when Lucifer is mentioned, like in Ep. 1 when she's on the phone with him
@Odium165 ай бұрын
Alistor actually doesnt see himself as a father figure, he just did this to piss lucifer off wich makes it so much funnier
@LadyKhione5 ай бұрын
oh for sure, but I'm also fairly certain he is actively attempting to disrupt Charlie's reunion and reconnection with her father because he wants to be the person she relies on..and not for wholesome reasons. Alistor has many things he's hiding, but one of the biggest secrets is why he's actually helping with the hotel. yes he states he's doing it for the fun of it but I believe he has an ultimate goal of gaining charlies trust, trapping her in a contract, and then utilizing her as a pawn to get out of his own contract - which fits well with the current theory that Lilith is the one Alistor is contracted to.
@Odium165 ай бұрын
@@LadyKhione yeah hes definetely up to it for malevolent reasons, shes just a step for him to get out of his contract. Honestly i do think hes contracted to lilith and i do think she underestimates him, seeing him just as a sinner she uses as a pawn, so i hope he succeeds and catches her off guard
@despising_tories73575 ай бұрын
100%
@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od4 ай бұрын
In episode 7 he actually says he likes them
@Odium164 ай бұрын
@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od i never said he didnt like them?
@VasudevAnandcva5 ай бұрын
This is my favourite episode of the season! It features my 2 favourite songs, and Lucifer is prob my favourite character. The relationship between Charlie and Lucifer in More than Anything makes me cry every time😭😭
@Mattables5 ай бұрын
I have the exact same opinion so far. This episode was so well paced, emotional beats and the songs were AMAZING! I don't think ill love another episode from this season like this one, BUT we still have a few left :3
@jrvalanze3 ай бұрын
I swear, this part gets me every time....
@w985 ай бұрын
Holy shit, I never noticed those two little clones playing the trumpet right when the song starts. I stg you find something new with every rewatch lol
@Mattables5 ай бұрын
right?! my method of reacting MAY be annoying to some, but thats the stuff i LOVE to find :D
@RisaPlays4 ай бұрын
Same and I've seen that scene SO many times XD It's such a fast moment
@Heheduckie5 ай бұрын
Mimzy: He becomes a kitten I don’t think we are thinking of the same type of cats My dumb brain: Cursed cat Alastor
@Nazo-kage5 ай бұрын
The moment in the song where Lilith shows up, she is faceless. I’m pretty sure that is shorthanded, for she was hiding her emotions and had already decided that that moment that she was leaving Lucifer and taking Charlie with her. And Lucifer was already somebody who was significantly beaten down from everything that’s been taken from him. So it makes sense that at that point, he didn’t fight it. That’s why he very rarely ever contacted Charlie. Because with his depression, he most likely felt that she didn’t need him anymore. So he buried himself in his hobby of making rubber ducks that did unusual things. Also, if in season 2, they reveal that he was responsible for the creation of the platypus. I am not going to be one bit surprised, but it would definitely explain so much.
@koopliss5 ай бұрын
Fun fact about a design aspect of this universe: Hell is HEAVILY themed around the Circus or Circus themes. with Lucifer obviously being based on a Ringleader on account of him ruling over all of hell (a literally ring leader!) and the other 6 members of the 7 deadly sins are ALSO based on different circus acts, although you won't meet any of them in Hazbin Hotel, since Helluva Boss kinda explores the rest of hell/the hellborn species more. The Circus theme kinda is hidden all over the place when it comes to hellborn demon related locations, the hazbin hotel itself has some circus themed designs around in the background as well.
@rollingthunder10435 ай бұрын
That little flying move Charlie did during the song (arms back, one knee forward before Lucifer catches her) is a classic trapeze move!
@koopliss5 ай бұрын
@@rollingthunder1043 Good catch! i didn't actually notice that one.
@unwrittenpaige77915 ай бұрын
"I'm grateful you're my daughter more than anything" everytime has me just bawling my eyes out like "I don't have daddy issues. You have daddy issues."
@EclipseStudios9704 ай бұрын
if you listen closely, charlie says father during that line
@bloodybee35535 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Charlie is canonically 6'2. Lucifer seems about a foot shorter, which means he's BARELY below average height for men irl
@Mattables5 ай бұрын
6'2??!
@bloodybee35535 ай бұрын
@@Mattables Yeah. So imagine how tall Alistor must be. Or Angel, who's even taller? Or Val, who's even TALLER
@DoctorSherbet5 ай бұрын
I thought the average was like 5'7 For men? Guess it's different in different countries
@strikingsarcophagus5 ай бұрын
Yeah, he's not really short, everyone else is just absurdly tall (ok he is short, bug they're still all giants anyway)
@thebeardedbrony95865 ай бұрын
Charlie is also around 200 years old.
@ambeegaming765 ай бұрын
Alastor was the first character designed for the show showing up way back in 2008 so him saying 'whos been here since day one' really hits different lol
@Kokkurichan5 ай бұрын
So a fun blink and you miss it moment in Hell's Greatest Dad is when it transitions from Lucifer fiddling to Alastor playing the piano, the piano actually drops on top of Lucifer and send his hat and fiddle flying.
@finnregan63335 ай бұрын
You pointed out the acoustic melody for More than Anything right after the song ended, but if you go back to the very beginning of the first episode with the info about heaven, pay attention to when Lucifer shows up; they play the motif there too, all the way back then. I think that’s a neat touch that you only get from multiple viewings
@SuicidalGeniusDazai5 ай бұрын
WAKE UP PEEPS, THE KING HAS POSTED 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@PoliV465 ай бұрын
Finally Matt reacting to the/one of the best characters of Hazbin Hotel!!
@Mattables5 ай бұрын
i think he mayyyy be my favorite!
@Alastorlover-r8c5 ай бұрын
"Big talk for someone else who's on a leash" Husk is basically saying that he knows that Alastor sold his soul to as well which is why Alastor became so powerful when he first got to hell. And please react to Helluva boss!!! Also Angel Dust's birthday was on April 1st so to celebrate Vivzipop and tombstone did a collab and made an OFFICIAL POISON REMIX it's so good and just got to listen to it!
@gbs50095 ай бұрын
I wouldn't assume Alistor's deal is *why* he hits so hard above his weight. It certainly could be, but he doesn't quite seem to the type to straight sell his soul for power... giving somebody else that kind of control over him seems like the kind of thing he would only do under extreme duress.
@thebeardedbrony95865 ай бұрын
17:37 charlie is canonically bisexual. As a cisgender straight male, until is was pointed out in another reaction, i didn't realize that the cake is frosted in the lesbian flag color scheme. Lucifer is trying hard to reconnect with his daughter!
@jesslauren80315 ай бұрын
12:12 just because people like him, doesn’t make him a good person. He’s probably the worst person in the hotel.
@kirameki5 ай бұрын
I adore this episode. I think when he says he tried before he was talking about when he gifted free will to man and got banished. His punishment was never seeing the good of humanity. As for the scenes with Lilith it seems when they separated she took Charlie with her, and maybe actively kept her from Lucifer. Though it could also be he was so sad and depressed to lose them he also didn't fight to stay in contact. Charlie was the only light and happiness and when she was taken away I think he lost his path. His obsession with the ducks was because they reminded him of her and so he just locked himself away making toys for child Charlie and missing her growing up. I hope we find out more in S2.
@despising_tories73575 ай бұрын
Lol he didn't GIVE humans free will. He SHOWED them they already had it.
@KitKat_kittykat4 ай бұрын
@@despising_tories7357Lucifer explicitly stated that "they got gifted free will and look what they did with it! Everything is a mess!" He definitely GAVE them that free will
@BreakerInc5 ай бұрын
"This is a rehabilitation Hotel, we don't need this deer cult!" That made me laugh so hard, thank you. XD Love your reactions, hahaha!
@pai_neapple51775 ай бұрын
Tbh Mimzy’s part is more of a wink for og fans, the way she appears, the “I know you were waiting for me” since we did knew her before hand, so instead of “who is this” like most, it was more a “MIMZYYYYYYY!!!!!”
@jacobhorner50085 ай бұрын
THE CHOKER IS SO CUTE! ok sorry, lol great reaction as always! Hells greatest dad is one of my favorite song purely because of all the references made to Aladdin, the whole beginning of the song is almost a direct reference to the song “Friend like me”
@despising_tories73575 ай бұрын
So glad you liked it. YES TO HELLUVA BOSS. You might even like it more.
@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od5 ай бұрын
If your a fan of boring shows bad writing and one dimensional characters then sure you would like Helluva boss more
@tunatunaman7785 ай бұрын
Lucifer stole my heart ever since I saw him in the portrait alastor was looking at in the pilot episode
@KalinTheZola5 ай бұрын
I feel like you're misunderstanding a bit - Lucifer "tried this all before" means that he tried to convince heaven that he had brilliant ideas for humanity which they did not listen to and he was eventually cast into hell for even trying which crushed his ability to dream. He's trying to protect Charlie from that fate, though this is a journey she is determined to go on and he can either crush her dreams the way his were or he can choose to support her.
@cosmictheorist60915 ай бұрын
My theory is that Alastor was a Voodoo praticioner in life. He could sold his soul for power even before he died.
@emma28845 ай бұрын
I wondered about that too!
@HazbinCovenWitch5 ай бұрын
He _does_ practice Voodoo. That's what those symbols floating around him are. 😑
@cosmictheorist60915 ай бұрын
@@HazbinCovenWitch Yes he is, I just wondered if that is why he came to hell so powerful. I am theorizing that he sold his soul before he died. I believe some types Voodoo require making a deal with spirit(s) to practice.
@professorbutters5 ай бұрын
It’s kind of too bad that Voodoo (Vodoun) has that reputation. It’s a legit religion, and some of those symbols are the veves of various spirits that are honored. I don’t mind it in this, somehow, but in the Princess and the Frog, it really pisses me off. Maybe it’s because they literally dress up the villain as Baron Saturday. I think there may be practitioners you can hire for stuff, and there’s a sort of grey morality to both Voodoo and Hoodoo. Magical practitioners draw the line where they want to. Some are “lady hearted.” They’ll bring back husbands, help with healing, but they won’t curse people. Some will curse people, but they’ll make it so it doesn’t land unless it’s justified. They’re uninterested in souls, because souls don’t pay the rent. You think I’m kidding? I’m not. I didn’t say I believe in it; I’m just saying it exists. But whatever it is, he’s clear from Louisiana, probably New Orleans, and he definitely killed people, so I don’t know if he needed.
@cosmictheorist60915 ай бұрын
@@professorbutters I 100% agree that people aren't seeing the whole story with Voodoo and Hoodoo. I do believe it is a proper religion and the good parts of it should be honored.
@jaxcraft28485 ай бұрын
Now you know where Charlie gets her flare and silliness from. Also MORE ALASTOR LORE! Now you see the context of Alastor and Lucifer's song. I don't blame Lucifer! That's his daughter! XD
@Miron055 ай бұрын
Charlie is definitely not silly
@jaxcraft28485 ай бұрын
@@Miron05 How so? I think she can be pretty silly at times.
@CandleLight1295 ай бұрын
The fact that he has emo teen Charlie on his wall but no pictures of her as an adult always led me to believe that Lilith taking baby Charlie was just like a "ok, it's bedtime" thing.
@MomokaViixiv5 ай бұрын
Razzle and Dazzle have been with Charlie since the Pilot, they help her sing her song playing the piano doing back up vocals when shes at the news station and theyve been here and there in backgrounds ect ect, they are her little protectors that her father made/gave/got her when she was a child.
@blueberrywaffles39375 ай бұрын
yes watch helluva! there’s also a lot of hazbin refrences in that show too so it should be fun to look for those
@DarkState25 ай бұрын
Helluva boss is very worth watching. It's a much different vibe from Hazbin but it's in the same world with a lot of different characters and lore.
@Quil635 ай бұрын
Absolutely, it's the full experience! Helluva Boss helped carry this world in a drought and the music they get to, the scenes they make, give the syndicated show heavy competition. As for Lucyfer here, Everyone loves a short king.
@brianneruiz-mccarty98905 ай бұрын
Hey! You guessed it with the Charlie's! I love the concept that the egg bois have little cell phones. iEggs? Rocking da choker, boss! 🤘 YES.....that was two teeny roaches gettin' the nasty.
@Mattables5 ай бұрын
trying it out! always wanted to pull them off xD
@ArticBlueFox965 ай бұрын
You seem to be wary of Alastor. So here are some things about him that were confirmed outside of the show (and I do not think are spoilers). By the way, I would recommend checking out the prequel comics to Hazbin Hotel. They are canon and they go a bit into the lives of Alastor and Angel Dust before they joined the Hotel. In life Alastor was a serial killer. He would target people who he felt did not live up to his standards or people who he felt disrespected him (or his mother, he is confirmed to be a bit of a Mama's Boy). He would bury his victims at a deer hunting ground, and one day when burying a victim a hunter mistook his brown hair for a deer and shot him dead. That is why he has the appearance of a deer and the x mark on his forehead under his hair where he was shot. Mortal souls in Hell become Sinner Demons, and their appearance and their powers are based on their appearance when alive, their sins, the way they lived their lives, their personality, and how they died. For example in addition to the deer form and the forehead x, Alastor was also a radio show host, which is why he has a radio microphone. That microphone is a part of Alastor's body, even though it is not continuous with his main body, and it also represents a lot of his power. Sinner Demons grow more powerful over time and grow more powerful the more souls they own and the more deals and contracts they make. In Hell, contracts and deals are soul-binding and cannot be broken, they are enforced by the power/magic of Hell itself. Sinner Demons are considered to be higher in the hierarchy of Hell than most Hellborn Demons (Imps, Succubi, Hellhounds, Loansharks, Etc...), only the Demon Royals/Nobles, the Seven Deadly Sins, and the Royal Family of Lucifer are higher than Sinner Demon Overlords and other Sinner Demons. One of the reasons for this is because Sinner Demons just continue to grow in power, while the Hellborn Demon races beneath them do not. Additionally, Sinner Demons cannot reproduce, but they also do not age, and if they are killed they will in time, slowly, and painfully regenerate or respawn. The only way to permanently kill a Sinner Demon is to kill them with an angelic weapon, which will prevent them from respawning, but leave their scattered shredded consciousness in continuous pain as it cannot respawn. So Sinner Demons have a kind of immortality (except from angelic weapons), Hellborn demons do not have that. If a Hellborn demon is killed they are gone forever, and they age (though they do not die from old age), and they reproduce. Alastor is a weird case. Sinner Demons usually have some power, but only a little when they manifest in Hell. Alastor started off with a lot of power. In fact the creator has stated that she hasn't even fully decided all the powers Alastor has (we have seen him do a lot of stuff with shadow creatures, shadow transportation, shadow tentacles, etc...). Now I have a fan-theory as to why Alastor started off with so much power. In life, Alastor lived in New Orleans (he is actually mixed raced Louisiana Creole), and a local religious tradition in some parts of the area is Vodou. When Alastor gets all super demonic various symbols show up, including one which is a real life Vodou symbol (this actually caused some controversy with real life Vodou practitioners feeling offending by the depiction of one of their symbols in this demonic way, calling it a cultural appropriation, which may result in it not appearing in the future). This makes me think that in life, before he died, he either practiced a fictional version of Vodou, or made some kind of deal with a Vodou practitioner prior to death. I think this bestowed on him some special talents when he reached Hell.
@pai_neapple51775 ай бұрын
I do agree, just remember that what Faustisse said is not longer canon, so Al dying by a Hunter is no longer confirmed, just that his death had to do with dogs :3 also Im pretty sure the comics are not longer canon as well but I don’t remember who said it
@anordinarygurl96425 ай бұрын
I agree with the thumbnail 😭 This episode was so well paced and cute and it moved the plot forward. Episode 5 and 4 are both my absolute favorites from the entire season (alongside ep 8)
@Voidgusher5 ай бұрын
Helluva boss is an amazing show that I would greatly recommend.
@DarthWolfen0775 ай бұрын
Sinners retain their memories after death, just watch Helluva Boss. They hire Blitzo and co. to go into the world of the living and exact revenge on their behalf since they can't come back to the living world nor step out of the Pride ring.
@sophykitten22125 ай бұрын
When Lilith takes Charlie away in the flashback, I think that particular scene is fairly innocent. Charlie is her nightgown. There's a fairly common trope scene with lil kids getting out of bed and finding the "absent" parent, only for the "normal" parent to find them at an appropriate story time moment to return them to bed.
@anniefemmas50975 ай бұрын
The problem is not the action, but the visual narration, I'm not saying that Lilith is bad, but she is 100% to blame for Luci and Charlie's bond becoming more distant Perhaps thinking that keeping her away from Lucifer was the best, But it is not something innocent when VISUALLY the scene speaks, Lucifer is in an illuminated place, the setting is beautiful and tender.They are sharing a nice moment, and she comes to cut it off by dragging Charlie into the dark. Again, does it mean that Lilith is evil or did she do it with bad intentions? No, but they are giving you to understand that she helped the bond grow apart. This is how visual language works, personally I think Lilith is not bad, but not good either. (The song also shows Lucifer at the beginning wanting to drag Charlie into the darkness to protect her, Lilith maybe trying to separate them because of that, Lilith, according to what Charlie says, loved sinners, so when Lucifer accepted extermination and was rejected, perhaps she wanted to separate his daughter so that she would not think the same way, she could Thinking it was the best for Charlie, Just saying, the visual narrative language was strong in this song)
@js666135 ай бұрын
Exactly. And because her face is obscured we don't see her expression so we can't say why Lilith is doing this, so honestly, it's just as safe to assume she's just being a mom and Lucifer was chose the absence, as it might be that she's taking Charlie from him at that point.
@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od5 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me why Lillith was wearing a dress before going to bed who does that?
@JigsawSaysHello4 ай бұрын
"I shelter and adore you more than anything" hits me so hard. Lucifer wants to be a good father, but he feels like he doesn't deserve to be in Charlie's life.
@MomokaViixiv5 ай бұрын
I also think people forget he was made and lived in heaven he is an angel, so like the way he acted when he found out his daughter was lesbian was probably some deep rooted nervousness from his "upbringing" per say and heavens rules lol. He rly just wants to protect his daughter i love him.
@wanderlustqueen135 ай бұрын
OK first I love your style, the choker, the nails, everything! Secondly , I would also love for you to watch Helluva Boss!!! Please please please!
@Kasuch15 ай бұрын
Lucifer isnt very fond of hell because its his punishment but for chalie its her home.
@nero7564 ай бұрын
28:12 i just love how alastor switches between "oh my dear sweet fella..." and "listen here u little shi..." thats totaly me xD
@user-jt1vn1gd5r4 ай бұрын
Your reactions is so sweet and emotional, it makes me feel better when I watch it Thank you for you watching hazbin hotel and shares with us❤
@TSUREVUU5 ай бұрын
YES GO FOR HELLUVA BOSS I love alastor dropping the whole piano on Lucifer head
@Z-one10005 ай бұрын
Yes, Yes, a thousand times yes to Helluva Boss! Also remember that series doesn't need any editing.
@y.christine5 ай бұрын
Super love your reaction! I always bawl whenever listening to "More than anything." This episode is def one of my faves! 2 of the best songs are here, and we get to meet the big dck in charge 😂❤ Love ur content! Looking forward to.more
@richardkutsera49925 ай бұрын
People like Alastor because of the way he is evil, not because he would be a good character. Of course he is a bad guy with hidden bad intentions. Also as I have heared, the creator explained this episode by saying Alastor was intimidated by the much greater power "entering his territory", and was very clever immediately figuring out how to "attack" not through a competition of power, but "fatherhood", finding Lucifer's weakness immediately. He DOES NOT actually feel a bond, he DOES NOT actually feel like a dad to Charlie at all. He just did that to piss off Lucifer. Also, lol, punishment would not make a sense if they would not remember their sins. They have souls here, this show has supernatural...also they have a new brain, in a new body. Memories just transfer.
@atomic56225 ай бұрын
I personally like Helluva Boss more than Hazbin (though I love both). You’ll fall in love with the characters in a hopeless way
@Shimakaze24874 ай бұрын
I honestly think the leash Alister is on is Lilith's. Between Charlie saying she hasn't seen her mom in 7 years, Alister being missing for 7 years, and Zestal saying something about Alister possibly being in Heaven, idk, that also makes the whole song of Lucifer vs Alister more hilariously weird and could shead some light on the reason Alister is even helping Charlie.
@Z-one10005 ай бұрын
I always figured Lilith was taking little Charlie from Lucifer in the song's flashback in order to put her to bed.
@sabertooth5095 ай бұрын
YES HELLUVA BOSSS PLZ , also love your content and reactions :D
@EnteraName18765 ай бұрын
30:28 You need to remember why the extermination happen in the first place. Charlie said that it happen because of overpopulation in hell so she presented a solution that would solve the problem: by sending sinners to heaven. In doing so, extermination would be no longer needed. Basically, even if Charlie made Hell a better place and stop the extermination, it doesn't solve the overpopulation. That's why she's doing all of these.
@DodonaWind5 ай бұрын
This is the exact comment I was looking for before I made it myself! All of this!
@torinkyifh50855 ай бұрын
We can like Alastor as a good character, doesnt mean hes a good person :)
@Yeik1115 ай бұрын
I immediately tapped on the notification when it popped up.
@destinyarpy37343 ай бұрын
The thing i love most about hazbin is the depth of mental health that they weave into nearly every episode. I greatly relate to the relationship of charlie and lucfier since my mom did take me away from my dad which caused him to fall into a deep depression. We have watched this together and he agrees yes he was neglectful but the urge to still protect his daughter is still there which is why he most likely said no immediately to the meeting in heaven. He knew they destroyed him and wanted to protect his daughter. I love how he still jumps at the opportunity to be bsck in her life as well. My dad and me instantly clicked and it felt like no time passed.
@TheMyrmo5 ай бұрын
Helluva Boss is.... played for different stakes. It's very different, but also extremely similar. And if you thought THIS was giving you emotional gut-punches, you better get the tissue box. I would love to see your reaction.
@marithflugelhorn73525 ай бұрын
Seconded, you are going to _love_ Helluva Boss once it really gets going.
@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od5 ай бұрын
Even as a fan of hazbin hotel I despise helluva boss its just extremely boring and the writing is horrible even compared to hazbin hotel
@user-rj1pk2io3e5 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes yes YES to Helluva. I mean, does it reallyyy need to be asked? Lmao. Love these reactions!
@trinscott5 ай бұрын
YES HELLUVA BOSS
@artluver94c5 ай бұрын
Helluva Boss! Yesssss!!! It's even better than Hazbin Hotel so far (imo)!!!!
@Magenta4ever5 ай бұрын
YES! Watch Helluva Boss! It has some fun first episodes, but once it gets into more over arching plot it's sooo good! Also, Jeremy Jordan (Lucifer) really does have such a beautiful, smooth voice! Highly recommend listening to his songs from Tangled the Series, they are absolute bangers!
@Zikkar5 ай бұрын
As to the clones at the start of the song. Lucifer can warp reality so they are actually there as is everything you see in his song is actually happening.
@BigBWolf904 ай бұрын
The one genuine smile you see Alastor give is when he is with the others watching Lucifer & Charlie reconnect
@liliumari5 ай бұрын
Id love to see you react to Helluva Boss!!! Theyre both such special shows and I think youd like it alot!
@cosmictheorist60915 ай бұрын
Please watch helluva boss, i love seeing my favorite shows through new eyes
@Daesma9995 ай бұрын
there are only 2 reactions to Mimzy: "Who tf is that?!" "Mimzyyyy! You finally made an entrance!" 😂😂 (she's around for few years already. From early drawings before Viv put together the pilot)
@Meh_thefifth-nm5zu5 ай бұрын
Yes watch Helluva boss. Also Alastor ran a radio tower, was a serial killer and a cannibal in life And a lot of people think Lucifer is autistic but that was never confirmed.
@FoxMoon895 ай бұрын
Could be remembering wrong, but I think one of the show's creators mentioned that the cannibalism started after he arrived in hell?
@huntersmith19435 ай бұрын
helluva boss is good
@bloodybee35535 ай бұрын
YES react to Helluva boss it's amazing
@heresheis2063Ай бұрын
After watching the pilot and all s1 eps, Alastor has shown to be an ambiguous(though savvy, sophisticated and cunning) and somewhat terrifying and antagonistic character though not the main villain. Despite the many red flags and few scenes showing his somewhat humane side, I as well as many others(Alastor fan or not) can't help but want to have faith that Alastor won't hurt and be an enemy to Charlie and the hotel which he has poured so much effort into and probably grown attached to maybe
@IsabellaThiessen5 ай бұрын
100 percent!!! Plz watch it, it’s absolutely amazing I’m sure you’ll love it
@zayne83315 ай бұрын
The depression is strong with this one. All jokes aside, Lucifer is my favorite character, and his voice actor Jermey Jordan? Oh my god talk about an angelic voice. I don’t believe I could think of anyone better to voice Lucifer. As for Lucifer’s character, it’s so well done. I see a lot of people grilling him for being “absent”, but you have to stop on consider things. He’s a broken man. He was cast out of heaven before he could see the good that came from his actions and was doomed to only see the bad that came from humanities free will. You can’t really call him an absent father either considering Charlie hasn’t reached out to him. Lucifer said “this is the first time she’s called you in years”, so she isn’t really trying for a relationship with her father. I think it has to do with Lilith since we saw her taking Charlie away from Lucifer, like she was keeping them separated or something. It’s clear Lucifer loves Charlie, he wants to be present in her life. I really want to see more of him in season two and learn more about what happened.
@lynxlikestodraw26564 ай бұрын
18:06 okay but the fact you sounded almost exactly like her is incredible
@Witchchylde5 ай бұрын
Yay! Sunshine has returned just past actual sunset! Love this episode myself.
@TirncampyMH5 ай бұрын
So at the end of the episode, we saw Lucifer sort of teleport away. I personally like to think that he was fully capable of showing up instantly, but he decided to drive /walk because he had to psyche himself up and rehearse what he wanted to say.
@MsFunkeymonkey985 ай бұрын
"Do you want me to watch.." Helluva Boss? Yes!!!! 100% Loving your reactions and want more.
@SimpingForMyself5 ай бұрын
Please do react to helluva boss, it's sooo gooddd ❤❤❤❤
@Rainbow_Evee5 ай бұрын
About Helluva Boss It's set in the same universe as Hazbin Hotel; it was first made to explore how hell relates to Earth, but after they knew what the audience actually wanted they started exploring Hell itself (the part of Hell that we don't see in Hazbin a.k.a. the other rings and a part of the pentagram called "imp city", in the pride ring). This extended universe is called "Hellaverse" and there's lots of videos of Cartoon Universe and Sarcastic Chorus explaining and theorising on this! I say you'd have fun watching Helluva Boss, It's a lot like Hazbin but a bit more crude sometimes, though I want to warn you that the first season/episodes are from the time when the show was still exploring Earth, the pilot isn't considered canon anymore and the quality of script and animation gets exponentially better the further you go. Have a good rest of your day/night!!
@silvillie5 ай бұрын
helluva boss IS AMAZING IM SO DOWN SO EXCITED LETS GO
@Ashwolf117214 ай бұрын
More than anything gets me emotional I started crying
@kayla84025 ай бұрын
I wasn't so worked up but I think everyone goes "did I miss something?" *wait 10 sec* "oh she is new, cool." Yeah more than anything is really good.
@meowchan29155 ай бұрын
Yesss please react to Helluva Boss! I've very keen on seeing how you might like it!!